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Climate Alarmism is Dead. But Don’t Celebrate Too Early

by Ben Pile
30 March 2025 7:00 AM

Around the world there are now concrete signs of the death of the climate agenda. The questions that persist relate to whether or not this is the end of the beginning or the beginning of the end of the Climate Wars, and for how long Brits and Europeans will have to endure their political establishments’ intransigence. Marking the end of climatism from an American perspective, and in the wake of Donald trump’s return to the White House, Roger Pielke Jr. and Michael Shellenberger have produced a very insightful conversation on the latter’s podcast.

“Climate change is an apocalyptic threat, they said,” explains Shellenberger. “It wasn’t — obviously”. Trump has “exposed” the Biden administration’s flagship climate policy – the misnamed Inflation Reduction Act “as a grift”. And perhaps most tellingly, “Greta has moved on to Palestine.” “Climate change is fading from view like overpopulation and other past environmental scares.”


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Tags: Climate AlarmismMichael ShellenbergerNeo-MalthusianismNet ZeroPresident TrumpRoger Pielke

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Art Simtotic
Art Simtotic
2 months ago

At the going forward of the clocks, Energy Fortress Europe and Plucky Blighty battles on in the 30-Years Gaslight War against that Invisible Enemy lurking in every breath we all take. Just as an Enemy no more deadly than old age lurked behind the Blitzkrieg on Breathing – The War on Sombreros to End All Wars on Sombreros.

Meanwhile across the Atlantic, Generals Gore, Kerry and Obama singlehandedly defend the beaches of Montecito, Martha’s Vineyard and Long Island from Enemy encroachment. Court martials, iron rations and fatigue squads all round – Generals dishonourably excepted. Footprints forward, five more minutes to madnight. Anyone seen Citizen Kane lately?

In litany of human folly, cant and deceit dating all the way back to the Pharoahs, the Convenient Untruth takes the mouldy biscuit. Perverted Science knows no bounds.

Yawn, yawn. Back to putting the clocks forward.

Last edited 2 months ago by Art Simtotic
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Dinger64
Dinger64
2 months ago
Reply to  Art Simtotic

Very well said🤝
And a wonderful peice by Ben

On the climate change issue just take a look at these abominations!
Funny how, when turbines are the only alternative, they can do no wrong and are defended to the hilt by the green mad crowd, then when something else comes along they start naming all the problems with the current wind tech!
Personally I think these f-ing things look worse! and they brag about them singing, no thanks, I’d sooner just have peace and quiet

https://www.ecoticias.com/en/meet-seaflute-1200-mwh-wind-turbine/12683/

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sskinner
sskinner
2 months ago
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Here is a bit of humour from the RSPB.

RSPB
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John Bentley
John Bentley
2 months ago

Excellent point Ben and one we on the Sceptics side can easily over…. what next, because there always has been a next. Biodiversity is a good shout. As part of my work I speak to a range of people across the utility sector and I’m starting to hear the phrase ‘Nature Collapse’, which has all the hallmarks you refer to. Buckle up for another ride.

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Art Simtotic
Art Simtotic
2 months ago
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Ecology and Nature Collapse put under the microscope by the Daily Sceptic just over a year ago…

https://dailysceptic.org/2024/01/08/can-we-trust-the-science-of-ecology/

…As the final commenter observes, “97% of climate and ecological scientists agree they’d be out of a job if there was no climate or ecological crisis.”

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ELH
ELH
1 month ago
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I think we need to suggest “litter picking” when faced with a catastrophic mindset and what can we do???
i.e. pollution is real and we can do our bit.

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CircusSpot
CircusSpot
2 months ago

Very good article especially the reference to Hohn and Bloomberg.
I wonder what Greta is up to with the pro Palestine support and this ties up with the Farage speech at RUK and the prediction of more MPs from Muslim parties.
It also ties in with the recent cases of the Nurses being suspended over trans men and the suppression of women in sport and women’s spaces.
My money is on another Plandemic with mandatory killer jabs for those not toeing the line.

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Dinger64
Dinger64
2 months ago
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They’re in for a fight if they try to get one of those things into my arm!

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Valerie_London
Valerie_London
2 months ago
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Indeed, that is a hill many of us are prepared to die on.

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klf
klf
2 months ago
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Absolutely.

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CircusSpot
CircusSpot
2 months ago
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I fear it may not be in our arms but hidden in some other food or common pill that we would take without realising the danger.

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Valerie_London
Valerie_London
2 months ago
Reply to  CircusSpot

People are still dying from the last lot of jabs.

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CircusSpot
CircusSpot
2 months ago
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Not to mention the multiple jabs going into babies and young children every day.

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Hardliner
Hardliner
2 months ago
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H L Mencken said it all….

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klf
klf
2 months ago

What the longer view of environmentalism’s history shows is that any vaguely plausible story about ecological doom has always been absorbed into the green ideological litany, driving arguments against democratic control of politics, abolishing reason from campuses, and worse.

Well, we could use the same draconian tactics and laws that are used against us today, on them tomorrow. Purge the blob. Purge the NGOs. Purge the universities. Purge the charities. We don’t have to accommodate them or their views. If this is too strong, then other methods will have to be found.

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DiscoveredJoys
DiscoveredJoys
2 months ago

“The gigantic catastrophes that threaten us today are not elemental happenings of a physical or biological order, but psychic events. To a quite terrifying degree we are threatened by wars and revolutions which are nothing other than psychic epidemics. At any moment several millions of human beings may be smitten with a new madness, and then we shall have another world war or devastating revolution. Instead of being at the mercy of wild beasts, earthquakes, landslides, and inundations, modern man is battered by the elemental forces of his own psyche.” 

— Carl Jung, Interview

So ask yourself a question – is Climate Change Activism a psychic epidemic, perhaps now almost completed running its course? Was the COVID Pandemic more of a psychic epidemic, perhaps now almost completed running its course?

Carl Jung thought that reason was no use in challenging psychic epidemics because reason did not affect unconscious motivations.

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Art Simtotic
Art Simtotic
2 months ago
Reply to  DiscoveredJoys

Great quote, thank you. Filed away for future reference.

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Jaguar
Jaguar
2 months ago

When people are on a mission to save the planet, the last thing they want to hear is that the planet doesn’t need saving.

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ELH
ELH
1 month ago
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Quite but the litter does need to be picked up (see my earlier comment) and they will feel better about themselves if they do.

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jamorris
jamorris
2 months ago

Increasing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, increasing methane and increasing plastic nanoparticles in our brains and arteries is a consequence of too many people. They were right in the 1960s to focus on population numbers.

In fact the population is falling world-wide except in Africa and perhaps in India. Now it is considered racist to be concerned about population numbers.

What we need to do is to try and work out the optimal population worldwide to sustain a good life for everybody. I suspect it is closer to 2 billion than the current 8 billion rising to perhaps 10 billion.

With 2 billion people there would not be a problem with using fossil fuels as the annual amount of carbon sequestered on the ocean floor would equal the amount put into the atmosphere. we should also by then have bio-degradable plastics. So the long term future on earth is bright but the next 100 years will be a problem.

How to keep GDP per head rising as the population in the UK slowly falls over the next 100 years is the problem. Part of the solution is capping population levels now and expanding food production in the UK so that we can survive when famines strikes later this century.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
2 months ago

Climate The Threat that never was

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JXB
JXB
2 months ago

Momentum. The climate gravy train, like the CoVid gravy train won’t screech to a halt, it will slowly come to a halt, probably replaced by something else. It will take longer because it built up much more speed over 30 years than the relatively short-duration of the CoVid Express.

Too much political capital has been invested, too much bureaucratic enlargement and big budgets rests on it, the so-called scientists have too much to lose and there’s still £billions in hand-outs being offered for “green” projects.

”Europe” is now turning its attention to militarisation, the new existential threat being “Putin” to replace “climate”, so that will contribute to “climate change/net zero” go8ng out of fashion.

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Curio
Curio
2 months ago

Excellent article but when I hit “..Net Zero policy scepticism being now properly established on the political mainstream by both the Tories and Reform” I stopped reading.

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sskinner
sskinner
2 months ago

“it was not global warming that drove the agenda, but neo-Malthusian framings of pollution, overpopulation and resource depletion – data about which were fed into simulations running on some of the first supercomputers, which in turn predicted the imminent collapse of society. Those simulations’ predictions established global green politics, yet by the turn of the century the prophecies had been debunked by nature and history. ….”
Well now we have AI, on top of super computers.

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Ariane
Ariane
2 months ago

The ‘green juggernaut’ is a cover for very wealthy and very neo-Malthusian (nazi?) bankers, corporation bosses and techie folks who want super control over the rest of us. Environmentalism, New Age stuff and their unaccountable but very well-funded NGOs are the mantle they use (plus non-science) to cover their nefarious intentions – which have been in planning since the world wars.

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