Trump signed an Executive Order withdrawing from the World Health Organisation on January 20th. In February, Milei declared that Argentina will also withdraw from the WHO. But there is a difference in the nature of the argument. Milei’s is better.
From the US Executive Order:
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The WHO has too much influence power and money Not accountable. We should be suspicious of any organisation that has world in its title!
The whole UN is a social experiment gone sour (and quite seriously so) invented by the lunatic [Woodrow] Wilson, to quote the German general Hoffmann (general staff of Oberost¹ during WWI).
¹ Oberbefehlshaber Ost, Supreme Commander in the East.
I think in the early days they did stick to the most pressing issues of the day, that are pretty much not changed….Starvation, sanitation & Malaria etc. That was before they became captured.
Why does fighting Malaria in affected countries require a global health organisation all states (or almost all states) are members of? Once you create something like the WHO, its functionaries will start looking for problems to sell themselves as solution to them. That’s an experimental process which will start with something that’s actually useful and then be refined until it’s the global pandemic government seeking to battle seasonal colds with police batons and high-tech medical products nobody really needs.
Milei is spot on and liking him more each day.
Rona was the greatest Fascist experiment in history – a global G20 experiment.
It proved that most people are stupid. They will comply. Hell, they will kill their pets and themselves to ‘save the phenomena’ or the narrative. Look at Canada, in Ontario an epicenter of the Fascism, the Fat Fascist Ford was re-elected by a landslide, winning >40% of the votes and 2/3 of the seats. Nary a dissent from the Rona narrative there.
It also proved that a majority are crypto-fascists. They were happily on the verge of mandatory stabbing and camps were being built. The Fat Pig dictator mused on using the UK military, whatever that consists of.
All to ‘save one life’, even as they murdered granny with midazolam (and 30K grannies) and millions were poisoned to death or injured around the world by the criminal Pharma-gov’t mafia. Fake PCR tests and moving the dead by category into Rona. The overall death rate did not change except for the spring 2020 murders.
Drumpf failed the Rona test, and enabled the fascism with Operation Warptard. Starmtard et al benefitted. Kaching kaching. Follow the money to find the fake science.
Rona is the seminal event in recent history. All I need to know about someone is what they did during the scamdemic.
Yes , one thing though – Fauci was at his peak but I’d like the Don to be more definite on the WHO ! If he does go flaky Convid will be repeated 😵💫
We can hope someone more sensible is in his ear, someone like RFK.
You reminded me there was an MP who said people were lucky that we didn’t start culling their pets. That may have been a good litmus test considering how Brits love their pets.
In 2021 there was talk of sending groups of “stabbers” door to door.
That’s why to me Stalone is still cool, but Arnold is not.
Past PM A.B. De Pflogiston (March 2020): “A national lockdown will begin tomorrow morning”
Future PM Sir Two-Tier (May 2020): “The government should have locked down harder and sooner”
MIlei wouldn’t have been fooled in the first place, Trump has known for years he got fooled, and the PM who prefers Davos to Westminster will always obey higher authority.
Bluddy fool.
I hope this is one of those cases where he’s saying things to keep people guessing and that it’s better to pay attention to his actions rather than his words.
I’m any case, we just don’t know everything. If it’s true that Trump backs the return of the Chagos Islands them, the public is being kept completely in the dark as to what that is all about. Because it literally makes no sense, based on the information given.
It makes sense with this Government though. What would they be doing differently as a self hating Government.
Don’t forget Starmer would have gone harder and much longer for Lockdowns and he would literally have forced the injections on everyone. He is a Man that loves to dominate and control it is what he lives for, and he uses Laws and Regulations to justify and to hide his most basest of desires.
Can you provide any evidence that Starmer would have forced the injections on everyone?
I don’t recall what he said on this topic. His impeccable moral compass suggests he would have. The opposition who didn’t oppose. People should be way more angry, but instead they voted him in.
He did oppose mandatory vaccination for NHS, but seemingly only because it would mean losing staff at a key time: https://youtu.be/mYedvUvoEZ0
However here, he suggests passing emergency legislation to “deal with anti-vaxxers”: https://youtu.be/r4e6IqwAIjw
The Labour faction led by Starmer enabled Boris Bumblefumble to introduce a limited version of vaccine passports against the wishes of his own party. It’s thus a pretty safe bet that Starmer would have supported any more extreme version of this.
His style is to get what he can get away with.
The Authoritarian Two-Tier would have an orgasm if he thought for one minute he could inflict another lockdown on us.
Trump seems to follow his instincts and is a pragmatist. Milei is more of a philosopher, thinking and in some ways an ideologue. Milei has an academic grounding in economic and political theory, so I think it’s natural for him to oppose something like the WHO on principle. I think they are both doing more harm than good in this world.
More harm? Why do you think that?
Oh dear. And I thought my day had started so well.
More good than harm.
Thanks.
🙂
Ideologically, Milei is my guy. His top ideological principle is minimal government. And I think that solves most of all the other problems.
Trump to me doesn’t seem particularly driven by minimal government. He seems to be much more about Team USA and if small government is good for Team USA then he’s for small government. But if big government were good for Team USA, then big government it would be.
That said, I have more hope that Trump will affect the size of government not just in the US but elsewhere mainly because what happens in the US is more likely to transcend to other places and Trump himself has a reach and a way of getting people to see things his way (eventually) that is pretty effective.
Yes I would agree with that. I don’t really follow UK politics so I may be missing something but the only person I’ve heard talk much about minimal government has been Rupert Lowe.
If so, that would decidedly be a point in Trumps favour. Minimal government, just like small government and big government, are undefinable propaganda terms. In contrast, do what works, regardless of what somebody calls it would be a nice, pragmatic approach. I don’t think people who think the solution to any problem is shoot the guy who talks about it and wait for the issue to resolve itself by magic are very wise. Eg, the solution to woke/ lefty capture of the civil service is not abolish it (“shoot the guys and …”) but to restore to what it was actually supposed to be.
Independent of this, useless government, eg, agencies distributing money for purported sex change surgery in remote Himalayan valleys, ought to be abolished. But this requires some sort of political discussion about what is and isn’t useless which doesn’t restrict itself to demanding that the guys be shot as the issues will then certainly resolve themselves.
Well in any debate on “government” surely a useful starting point is agreeing what the scope of activity should be, before moving on to policies. Like everything else in life, we’re not going to get unanimous agreement of what “minimal government” means, but that doesn’t mean we should not try to reach a consensus.
My objection to “what works” is really to do with maximising freedom of choice. I think in general the state tends to more inefficiency than the private sector, because of the incentive structures, but that’s by no means guaranteed and I would still be reticent about giving the state too board a remit even if it were super-efficient, because I don’t want the state to force me to part with my money for stuff I can do without. Of course you want the state to “work”, but that’s not my only yardstick.
We certainly shouldn’t first try to square the circle of some nebulously defined meta-problem on whose solution no two people will ever really agree on as that’s a recipe for endless discussions without ever getting anything done (which – I suspect – might be what you’re planning to accomplish).
Well don’t we have the same problem in defining “what works” or “restore it to what it was supposed to be”? I mean, you and I might largely agree on what it was supposed to be, but others won’t.
I speak to people in real life daily who love socialism and think the state is fine just as it is, in fact they want more of it. Even people who don’t love socialism want the state to do lots – just different stuff or differently to what it does now. I don’t think we’ll get anywhere as long as we just go round and round fiddling with exactly what the money is spent on, and how.
But don’t worry – almost nobody agrees with me.
I wasn’t proposing to solve an abstract definition problem but to do something specific in order to tackle specific issues, in line with the old military principle It’s better to do something which turns out to be wrong than to do nothing at all. Actually, whatever is done will likely turn out to be wrong to some degree, but the only way to learn about it is do something instead of argue about something. Mistakes can be addressed as they are discovered. Even the most well thought-out theoretical proposal will likely have grave deficiencies nobody did (or could) know about in advance.
Sadly I don’t think we’re going to find out.
Might make the next lot to occupy those positions think twice though.
Minimal government isn’t a propaganda term. It’s an ideal.
I would look at it this way.
It’s like staying fit. It needs constant effort and discipline. You need to exercise and you need to watch what you eat carefully.
If you do no exercise and eat based on your desire, you end up morbidly obese.
Western states are equivalent to obese people who’ve reached the point that they struggle to move without assistance. They’ve been gorging and gorging and gorging and couldnt exercise now even if they tried.
You want to get into a debate about whether the obese person should stop eating cucumbers, because you know, cucumbers are good for you
Forget cucumbers. The person is on the verge of dying from too much food and you want to conduct an audit of the different foods a d decide which ones have nutritional value.
It was Christianity which adopted kings, not the other way round. As can be gleamed by reading between the lines of Bede’s Ecclesiastical History of the English People¹ (somewhat dull but historically very interesting read), after the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, the church was still an immensely wealthy and powerful organization and it systematically conquered Europe with the soft power of teams of monks sent to whichever Germanic chieftain/ aristocrat was willing to listen to them, the deal on offer being pronounced king by the grace of God instead of elected war leader of the people and gold from coffers of the church in exchange for spreading Christianity by force in a territory he could forcibly control.
¹ Two notable examples would be that Bede omits a whole line of Saxon rulers of England as not worthy of being mentioned due to them having fallen back to paganism and the story of the first missionary expedition for Frisia which ended when some locals who had smelled a rat after the strangers had had conferred with some local chieftains hacked the monks to pieces with their swords and threw the remnants into the Rhine.
That Government response is similar (or the same) as the reply I had from my MP when I warned about the WHO treaty and the IHR. After that, I haven’t bothered to talk to MPs who are mostly Globalist/Marxist grifters.
As mentioned on here & UKC Starmer would not reverse the WHO treaty & IHR, he is a Trilateral Commission member and we know their stated World Order ideas with no evidence that they have changed their World outlook lately.
“…no-one is safe until we are ALL safe”, which reminds me of a comment made by a statistician at the time : “WHO via COVID demands a p value of 1”. Apparently, p value of 1 means that a 100% certainty has been reached, something that has never been achieved. And yet that was what WHO demanded. But perhaps my memory has let me down.
Here is the source of that Marxist sentiment:
“Without equitable access to #COVID19 vaccines – something that #COVAX is built to ensure – the pandemic will continue to rage. After all, in a highly interconnected world, no one is safe unless everyone is safe” – Anaradha Gupta (GAVI)
“A stain on our soul’. That was how Gordon Brown described the failure of the west to ensure that the whole world is vaccinated. In a previous attack on western policy, just as Omicron was emerging — he wrote of “hoarding” and ‘vaccine nationalism’.
This betrays the extent of Gordon Brown’s intellect which is most definitely left wing emotional sentimentality. It was Bill Gates that first said that everyone on the planet must be vaccinated and ‘you don’t have a choice’, and no one questioned the rational or evidence for doing such a thing. Bill Gates was voted onto the WHO a few years back and has the same status as a nation. How was this possible because he has no experience of administering medicines or treating the sick? Reading books doesn’t cut it.
The Bill & Malinda Gates Foundation have invested heavily in vaccines (a good thing in itself). “…The realisation that children in developed countries had access to vaccines while children in developing countries were dying for lack of them prompted the Foundation to invest as a founding partner in Gavi.” However, this is what Seth Berkley (CEO of GAVI and co-founder of COVAX) had to say about COVID “To end the pandemic, the virus needs to be stamped out simultaneously across the world, but government hoarding and export restrictions are getting in the way of making this happen.”
The sheer insanity and hubris of this ‘wish’ is staggering. Also, embedded within this is the sentiment that there are rich sovereign nations making things worse by ‘hoarding’ and obviously a one world solution will work if it wasn’t for all those selfish rich countries. We were being ‘played’ and it’s was very blatant.
In July 2020 Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus the director of the WHO warned “no return to the old normal for the foreseeable future’ and “The virus remains Public Enemy No.1” and goes on about governments going in the wrong direction. He ends by saying “If the basics aren’t followed there is only one way the pandemic is going to go. It’s going to get worse and worse and worse and worse”. What pathogen in the last 200 years has ever done that?
In early 2021 there was a conference in China with Dr Fauci. A Chinese Professor Zhong Nanshan asserts that economies must not open up until everyone has been vaccinated which may take 2 to 3 years (Fauci agrees). ‘Prof’ Nanshan goes on to say natural herd immunity will not work because it is unscientific and inhuman.
And then there were the Zero Covid fanatics:
UNHCR (UN Refugee Agency): “Statement: No-one is safe until everyone is safe – why we need a global response to COVID-19”
WHO: “No one is safe from COVID-19 until everyone is safe.”
UN: “No one is safe, until everyone is”
GAVI: “No one is safe until everyone is safe”
USGLC: “FACT SHEET: No One Is Safe Until Everyone Is Safe”
And…The FT/Euro News/Education International/ ‘No one is safe until everyone is safe’
Meanwhile the WHO warned of another disaster, but this never got any traction in the MSM or even with the WHO/UN/GAVI or Gates.
“COVID-19 pandemic leads to major backsliding on childhood vaccinations, new WHO, UNICEF data shows
23 million children missed out on basic childhood vaccines through routine health services in 2020, the highest number since 2009 and 3.7 million more than in 2019
Remembering that the average age of death from Covid is 80 and yet here we have not one but a whole host of child killer diseases that are likely return and undo decades of work.”
Too many governments stupidly listened to Bill Gates when he said the world wasn’t ready for a pandemic, when the opposite was true. Amongst all the nations were a whole host of skilled and professional doctors and nurses that are trained to deal with such events and would have organised themselves rapidly. However, all professional structures based on expertise were neutralised over night and replaced with top down bureaucracies. Independent minded doctors and nurses were/are censored, in some cases using Soviet style character assassination techniques.
in my opinion the Covid scam completely unmasked the WHO.
I may be retired but am still part of the medical community, and I am with Karol Sikorsky on this one!