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David Davis Says He’s 90% Certain Lucy Letby is Innocent and Will Campaign for a Retrial. He’s Right – The Case Against Her is Collapsing by the Day

by Timothy Bradshaw
21 October 2024 1:38 PM

David Davis MP has declared he is 90 odd per cent certain that Lucy Letby is innocent and will campaign for a retrial. This is very bad news for the Thirlwall lnquiry, whose chair brushed off the growing number of expert voices as “noise”, and who has conducted the inquiry on the axiom of the truth of the conviction, refusing to hear witnesses who do not think Letby is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. My reflection on this falls into two parts, firstly an attempt to state where this rapidly unravelling prosecution case now stands, and secondly to ask whether the full legal procedure for assessing scientific witness quality was observed through the trial.

The case against Letby is an “hypothesis to account for a difficulty”, to steal John Henry Newman’s phrase. The hypothesis was developed by senior doctors in the Countess of Chester Hospital neonatal unit to ‘explain’ a spike in deaths. There is no need to rehearse the narrative leading to her arrest and two convictions, this has been forensically set out in Rachel Aviv’s famous and judicially censored article in the New Yorker; it really is a core text, and was censored even while a hysterically hostile press coverage was allowed to remain available. It has not received a rebuttal, just been ignored. Statistician Richard Gill has compiled a rehearsal of useful websites. Dr. Phil Hammond, who writes the ‘MD’ column in Private Eye, is also essential reading, taking us through the second trial and into the equally skewed Thirwall Inquiry and he is getting letters from nurses who want to testify on behalf of Letby but have been blocked.

The hypothesis for deliberate human agency being responsible for neonate deaths because Dewi Evans, lead expert witness for the prosecution, opined that there was “no other explanation”, has been crumbling. His controversial handling of nurses’ shift rosters, excluding doctors and other staff on the unit, pulled out Letby as on shift when many critical incidents happened, and so made her the target for the police investigation. Evans cited two insulin cases, not leading to deaths, for which better science has emerged showing a non-murderous cause for the high insulin level, to sit alongside Rachel Aviv’s counter-evidence. The BBC’s latest coverage of the case has sought to defend the prosecution case for the reliability of the insulin immunoassay tests.

But subsequently yet more top quality scientific evidence has emerged to counter the prosecution’s evidence in the neonates alleged to have overly high levels of insulin. Five top experts have agreed that the prosecution case for Babies F and L fails. ‘Insulin tests used to convict Letby cannot be relied upon, scientists say‘, reports Sarah Knapton in the Telegraph. Specialists argue results are notoriously unreliable as antibodies can cause “interference”. “Without confirming the integrity of the results then you are entering into the land of guessing,” Dr. Adel Ismail, a retired consultant in clinical biochemistry and chemical endocrinology who was the head of an NHS pathology lab for 25 years, told Knapton. And that is precisely what the prosecution barristers, and their expert witness Dr. Evans, gave to the jury, the land of guessing. This is what the vastly long and tendentious trials offered by way of evidence against Letby: guessing and a hypothesis spun like Ariadne’s web out of fresh air. This torpedo holes the case against Letby, but the legal establishment will seek to ignore it, brush it aside and continue to deny her the appeal demanded by the flow of damning criticism of the prosecution case. The Criminal Cases Review Commission is notoriously unwilling to act and will even keep a victim of miscarriage of justice locked up despite compelling evidence while it dawdles and delays.

Hypotheses, for scientists, are put up to be challenged by counter-evidence, and this Letby hypothesis continues to weaken as the weeks go by and major errors appear in the prosecution hypothesis, errors which undermine the trustworthiness of its method and deduction. For example, the X-ray on which Dewi Evans relied for the alleged killing of Baby C proved to be dated on a day she was not present. She was not there – and the whole hypothesis is based on her ‘being there’ – so this should seriously vitiate the theory. But no, the establishment virtually ignores this rend in its allegation. Likewise, when it turned out that Letby was not even present when an I.V. bag she had supposedly poisoned with insulin was given to a baby, the prosecution stuck to its guns, putting forward the utterly improbable hypothesis that Letby had left the poisoned bag in the fridge for another nurse to pick at random and inadvertently use.

Like a medieval witch, if she ‘was there’ her very presence could kill, and even if she was not. The start of the second trial for attempted murder of baby K, where Dr. Jayaram famously “looked at his watch” and recalled the exact time when she was supposedly alone with the neonate, vitiated his testimony since the door swipe data backing up his story was after all wrong. Another nurse had come into the unit, not gone out, Letby was not alone – so surely the case against her was bust. But no, the jury convicted her despite this torpedoing of the timing and solo opportunity for our assassin. The jury must have been befuddled to convict on the attempted murder of baby K as once again, there was no evidence of her harming any baby at all.

We are forced to ask, given that Evans’s X-ray proved nothing against Letby even on his own “must have been murder” axiom, and the court’s ignoring of this flat contradiction of his allegation by date and by method, would anything have sunk Evans’s evidence in their eyes? It seems to be invested with a holy impregnability in the eyes of the judge, barristers, jury, the Appeal judges: the logic is “she must have been an assassin, so never mind the dates and methods, she must have killed Baby C”. The logic is a deduction from the hypothesis, not from witness evidence of crime, nor forensic evidence.

We need to note that the defence failed to take up this golden opportunity in court, just as it had astonishingly agreed with the prosecution in the insulin cases that insulin must have been injected exogenously, thus helping the hypothesis of the prosecution entirely unnecessarily. The defence failed to put its own expert, Dr. Hall,  in the witness box, despite the fact he sat through the trials and regards them as simply unfair. The adversarial trial system depends on the defence being equally funded as the prosecution, and we can only speculate why it proved to be so ineffective.

The Thirwall Inquiry is turning out to be rather like the Post Office Inquiry with its Fujitsu fundamentalism and the Covid Inquiry, predicated on lockdowns being utterly necessary and vital to saving lives, refusing to heed any counter-evidence which has grown louder and louder. Thirlwall is operating on a similar axiom which the establishment is desperate to maintain: that Letby the brilliant killer hypothesis is now proven. There is no reasonable doubt whatsoever, and the gainsayers are “noise” who were not at the trial. On 17th October, Eirian Powell, the neonatal unit manager, told the inquiry that there never had been any evidence showing Letby had harmed anyone. Letby the silent assassin was indeed a hypothesis, not a witnessed wrongdoer. No forensic evidence was ever produced against her. She was on duty more than other nurses as more experienced with neonates and keen to develop as a nurse, plus she was said to be saving for a house. On October 18th barristers, acting as if inquisitors in Seville, bullied Powell into saying what she clearly did not believe, that Letby was guilty, despite lack of evidence. The “inquiry” is anything but fair and rational. This inquiry will surely become a matter of shame for the legal profession in future years when Letby is finally exonerated, as seems to be becoming increasingly inevitable.

The hypothesis looks weaker and weaker by the day.  The post-it notes of anguish have subsequently been found to have been written on the advice of a counsellor when she was being constantly pressed to admit guilt. This is not evidence of anything but a persecuted soul. She had taken home handover notes and shoved them under her bed, wrong but explicable in rushed world of nursing with paper put into pockets at the end of shift, certainly nothing to do with a cunning assassin’s behaviour. As the counter-evidence to the hypothesis grows, so does the determination of the establishment to prevent any further scrutiny of this case. They don’t want to hear ‘the noise’; the fall of this judicial temple is damaging to contemplate. Appeals have been denied.

The case is a standout example of confirmation bias: how do we pin this on Lucy? The case reversed the burden of proof, she ended up having to prove her innocence, and the mass of reasonable doubt was barely mentioned in the judge’s summing up. The jury itself was accused of having made its mind up before the trial began by a jury member. The judge let it carry on. He also ignored the excoriating condemnation of Dewi Evans’s expert testimony in another case by Lord Justice Jackson, damning it as worthless, one-sided and aimed at a particular result. Evans has subsequently been forced to admit he was wrong in embolism evidence over triplet baby R because Letby wasn’t present at the time, but for those up to their necks in this case his reputation seems invincible. The jury, uninformed and no doubt confused, seemingly did as it was told. The seething hatred of Letby in the media surrounding the case and both trials will have seeped through. The outcome of this theatre of the absurd, with all its flummery and stress on procedure over truth finding, is the scapegoating of a nurse to save the face of a unit and its doctors.

Dr. Timothy Bradshaw is a retired Lecturer in Theology at the University of Oxford.

Tags: CourtsEvidenceLucy LetbyNHSThe mediaThirlwall Inquiry

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Oscarone
Oscarone
3 years ago

FA Youth Cup match abandoned after player ‘suffers suspected cardiac arrest’ on pitch | Sports Informer

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  Oscarone

This is evil and you all know it

Viganò: Considerations on the Great Reset and the New World Order
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/vigano-considerations-on-the-great-reset-and-the-new-world-order/

Next Peaceful & Friendly events: Wokingham & Woking  
– let’s join in with Worldwide backlash before it’s too late  

5.30pm Friday 3rd September 
Loddon Bridge, (Winnersh Garden Centre/Showcase Cinema) 
Reading Rd, Winnersh, 
Wokingham RG41 5HG

12pm Woking Saturday 4th September – Woking Town Centre- Jubilee square

Stand in South Hill Park Bracknell – Sundays from 10am & Wednesdays from 2pm
Make friends – keep sane
http://t.me/astandintheparkbracknell

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A Y M
A Y M
3 years ago
Reply to  Oscarone

21 09 02 Lottery winner 56 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9951619/EuroMillions-winner-Margaret-Loughrey-said-27million-lucky-dip-destroyed-life-found.html

21 09 02 Bollywood star 40 Heart attack https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9950385/Indian-TV-film-star-Siddharth-Shukla-40-dies-heart-attack.html#reader-comments

Pilot mid air 49 https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2021/aug/30/biman-bangladesh-pilot-who-suffered-heart-attack-mid-air-dies-at-nagpur-hospital-2351922.html

NZ woman 50’s “first death” https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/nz-woman-dies-after-suffering-rare-side-effect-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine

Australia sailor 29 stroke than death https://7news.com.au/sport/sailing/australian-sailor-jessica-watson-reveals-sudden-death-of-partner-cameron-dale-c-3845979

21 09 01 Sudden Death 25 year old mum Edinburgh https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tributes-paid-young-mum-beautiful-24888983

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago
Reply to  Oscarone

Yes, teenage player and the story was hidden well down the page in the dm. I suspect he’d been jabbed since it wasn’t menrioned in the story, had he not been I would imagine the headline would read ‘unvaccinated teenager suffers cardiac arrest during youth FA match’

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grob1234
grob1234
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Yes and if unvaccinated would have highlighted the poor kids last words as “I wish I got the jab and I urge others to do the same” or whatever claptrap they always come out with.

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A Y M
A Y M
3 years ago
Reply to  Oscarone

All from the past few days. My linked post didn’t get approved.

21 09 02 Lottery winner 56 
21 09 02 Bollywood star 40 Heart attack
Pilot mid air 49 heart attack
NZ woman 50’s “first vaccine death
Australia sailor 29
21 09 01 Sudden Death 25 year old mum Edinburgh

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Lister of Smeg
Lister of Smeg
3 years ago
Reply to  Oscarone

I was watching a video on BitChute (it’s mirrored on odysee if you have problems with BitChute’s buffering of videos) of Dave Cullen (Computing Forever) interviewing a NI doctor Anne McCloskey who has had a campaign of censorship and blacklisting against her by the medical Establishment for highlighting a significant uptick in adverse reactions in the under 60s – especially the under 40s from the COVID vaccines, particularly serious blood clotting, stroke and heart problems.

She is alleging that it is being covered up by pretending these are just ‘normal’ occurrences, despite the NHS units covering these ailments being under severe pressure for months since younger people had been vaccinated. Even OAP deaths due to this have ‘flown under the radar’ and have not been investigated, some possibly being attributed to COVID.

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ChaunceyTinker
ChaunceyTinker
3 years ago
Reply to  Lister of Smeg

She has been suspended apparently:

“Dr Anne McCloskey: GP suspended over Covid-19 vaccine comments”
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-58315530

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  ChaunceyTinker

Tragic levels of medical corruption.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Lister of Smeg

Her original video is a tough watch of a lady who imho is evidently dedicated to her patients and the oath she assumed on qualifying as a doctor, but is struggling to hold her composure as she sets out what she has experienced. You have to be heartless not to feel similarly watching her, a very brave lady – my God how we need more of her ilk.

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Oscarone
Oscarone
3 years ago

Covid: Prof Jonathan Van-Tam vaccinates Boston United players – BBC News The senior team were vaccinated by JVT. The youth team too?

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Oscarone

A professor Shipman?

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Monro
Monro
3 years ago

Well…..here’s a guy who has vaccinated children and he was so smart he decided to hold a snap election on the back of the popularity that his vaccination program would clearly bring him: ‘”Canadians need to choose how we finish the fight against Covid-19″

How’s that working out for him?

‘…an Angus Reid survey this week indicated a drop in popularity for the 49-year-old among voters of every age and gender, including women who have been his staunch supporters.’

Oops!

‘”Three weeks ago it felt like pretty common knowledge – at least with people I was talking to – that it was going to be a cakewalk for the Liberals,”

But now 

‘National surveys suggest the Liberals, a left-of-centre party, have lost ground and are now in a statistical tie with the right-leaning Conservatives.’

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58389802

Shame (not really)!

If Trudeau doesn’t make it, alarm bells here, already ringing after Chesham and Amersham, Batley and Spen, will get a great deal louder……..

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grob1234
grob1234
3 years ago
Reply to  Monro

Trudeau is amongst the worst. Did you see where he called a recession a “shecession”? What an utter moron.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago
Reply to  grob1234

It is still my opinion that he said “Xi-covery”.

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Lister of Smeg
Lister of Smeg
3 years ago
Reply to  grob1234

That the Opposition ‘Tories’ (I suspect they’ll just be like Boris’ lot – just a bit less authoritarian than the left wingers) in Canada are not up well into the 40%s means that they won’t be able to form a majority government (never mind a landslide). They could find themselves in the same position Mrs May did after 2017 hamstrung over getting laws passed, etc.

It shows how stupid and left wing so many Canadians (like NZers) are that they still favour Trudeau in such large numbers after his many failings and scandals.

Maybe someone should sue his party over the use of the world ‘Liberal’. Someone should do the same in Australia too (their ‘Liberal’ party – the supposed equivalent of our Tories, is rapidly taking that country back to the days of the penal colony).

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dante
dante
3 years ago
Reply to  Monro

What worries me is that he wins! Another rigged election perhaps.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Monro

If he loses, perhaps this will make leaders around the world take notice and realise that their vicious policies are not as popular as they think they are…

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

You know things are failing when those in power believe their own PR.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Monro

Just like Brexit, the quiet man has been nudged into never voting for these fugging muppets ever again, in fact I’ll go WAY OUT OF MY WAY to make sure they never get to run more than a bath ever again.

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Hopeless
Hopeless
3 years ago

Typical Hunt. Politician who once had a job with “Health” in the name is now a vaccine expert, epidemiologist etc. Just can’t bear to be out of the limelight, and no doubt money comes into it somewhere. Too blinkered to look at the Israeli experience.

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nottingham69
nottingham69
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

He wants to keep the spotlight off his negligent spell as Health Minister.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  nottingham69

He and Lansley are held in similar regard by medics, clinicians and career NHS employees …..

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Lister of Smeg
Lister of Smeg
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

Hunt: rhymes with ****.

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
3 years ago

Of course it is a “Religious Mania”, it has always been so. Hence the ever louder drumbeat to persecute the ‘unvaccinated’.

This is nothing to do with science, it is all about control and domination; of body, spirit and mind.

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ChaunceyTinker
ChaunceyTinker
3 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

 there are questions about which variant to target with the boosters

That sentence seems to imply that each booster is only really useful for a particular variant, in which case as soon as another variant emerges – bang – they are going to be telling the vaccinated they need yet another booster.

They said that only one jab was being recommended for children, but THAT narrative no longer makes sense in the light of the claims about boosters being needed to “target” variants, and the growing admission that the effectiveness declines over time. Soon they will be wanting to jab the children over and over again, in spite of the fact that children are not at significant risk. Surely parents are going to react against this eventually?

“Don’t Jab The Children”
http://participator.online/articles/2021/08/dont_jab_the_children_20210805.php

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Douglas Brodie
Douglas Brodie
3 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

The establishment/Ofcom-censored truth is that the UK Covid epidemic was over by June 2020 and has only been dragged out by the government in order to get the entire population needlessly vaccinated as a Trojan horse to imposing vaccine passports which will morph into coercive social credit digital identity cards, all because they see these as an essential prerequisite to the Davos/WEF/UN “Great Reset”.
 
Hopefully they will fail because they didn’t bargain on the Covid vaccines being worse than useless. The swine flu vaccine was pulled after causing around 50 deaths while the Covid vaccines have already caused 1,600 UK deaths, perhaps a ten-fold under-reporting, yet still they press ahead. The political ringleaders should all be sent to prison.

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A Y M
A Y M
3 years ago

I would consider myself quite red pilled but I have always been sceptical about this clot shot being a death shot that was intended to cull the population by the billions.

But with the rabid enthusiasm to administer this now on kids, when we know it can harm them, and know they don’t get hurt by Covid, and know that these shots don’t stop infection or transmission, and whatever they do, if anything, doesn’t last, makes me think, this is indeed a drive to decimate the masses, not just tag and trace us, but devastate us.
Pure Evil.

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dante
dante
3 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

My husband is exactly like this, exactly. Which got me to thinking, what if, because we all have our eyes open and can see what is happening with these shots, the only logical conclusion we come to, (because they are hell bent on getting it in every arm) is that it must be about de-population.
However, if we were blue pilled then our mind set would, like them, blind us to any ill effects (like death), we would cling to the mirage that the vaccines are 100% safe and will free us from this deadly pandemic. It is their religious fervour that blinds them to the truth, they have built a narrative and they cling to it to their ultimate demise..

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A Y M
A Y M
3 years ago
Reply to  dante

That’s where Delingpole’s white pill comes in. When you see this as unadulterated evil, you realise that this is confirmation of God.
Those who refuse to see it and fear death instead of damnation are in effect dooming themselves. They are Godless and irredeemably faithless.
Ive always been spiritual and believed in a higher power, sceptical of atheists, but now I’m certain that God exists and only through him will this be bearable.
Sorry to my fellow atheists. Nothing against you. It’s a personal thing.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

I’m not a believer but tend to think one lives better if one fears damnation more than death.

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dante
dante
3 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

This is very interesting, the white pill, I must listen to Delingpole’s podcast more.

I was brought up in an atheist home, which didn’t bother me at the time, but now as an adult with children of my own, I do feel an enormous spiritual hole as it were. I have always strived to be very ethical and moral person and I have cobbled together a sort of spiritual belief of my own.

This part where Delingpole says that when you see the evil it is confirmation of God, I struggle with this, has God intentionally brought on or allowed the evil to exist, or does God have no control over it?

I try and frame it as the normal rise and fall of the “universe” we are all intricately bound together, in some larger tapestry, like threads ( I know it sounds airy fairy but it makes sense in my mind) and we rise and fall, we make choices good or bad. I don’t think this life is it, we must live well in this life, karma and all that.

I do agree that this horrendous period will lead to a spiritual re-awakening. Lately having never prayed before I have found an urge to pray, for my family and humanity! I even bought books on prayer having never done anything like it before. I find it does help me at least. I have to hope for the future for my children!

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debra
debra
3 years ago
Reply to  dante

“has God intentionally brought on or allowed the evil to exist, or does God have no control over it?”

This is indeed, in part, a huge question – The only thing I do know from my reading of scripture is that God does have control over it. There are 365 exhortations not to worry throughout scripture – thankfully one to contemplate per day. Despite this, in the face of relentlessly negative news and reporting of the utterly evil machinations of some, I have to take up my courage anew each day.

I do not claim to understand the depths of the depravity we face but for my part I will look to live as three young men did when faced with certain death & declare: “There is no need for us to defend ourselves before you in this matter. If our God, whom we serve, can save us from the white-hot furnace and from your hands, O king, may he save us! But even if he will not, you should know, O king, that we will not serve your god or worship the golden statue which you set up.”[the book of Daniel]

This does not mean I will lie down and allow myself, or others, be trampled on – there are plenty of biblical examples of how we should be fighting tyranny – and It is my intention to be a thorn in their side wherever and whenever I may.

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dante
dante
3 years ago
Reply to  debra

Thank you for this Debra, I also will be a thorn 😊

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
3 years ago
Reply to  dante

Good and Evil are opposites, so if Evil exists so does Goodness.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

I have never been particularly religious but I have woken up to the real evil that surrounds up, that has always surrounded us but has remained somewhat hidden until now. My beliefs have been totally shaken up, I’m feel that God does exist in many forms. It’s been an incredibly personal journey, and it’s given me the strength and faith to fight in some way, everyday.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

I used to be a regular churchgoer but as time went on I grew disenchanted with religion. However recently I have found myself praying once again asking God to deliver us from this Evil. Whether he will listen to one who abandoned the faith, I can only pray He does.

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Epi
Epi
3 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

Sorry much as I’ve tried I really can’t get into this religious thing. I suppose a Public School education didn’t help as you were shoved into it everyday and with twice weekly Chapel it all rather put me off. Don’t get me wrong I love churches and the aura they give off and a good warble. Just can’t get into the praying bit, never have. Perhaps God doesn’t like me.

PS I’ve always tried to lead a good life and to know good from evil and what’s going on is definitely evil.

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

There is no profit whatsoever for the elite in “decimating the masses”. The goal here is to convert them into obedient, easy to control, gullible slaves, not decimate them (which would create an uprising).

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

The profit is in extending (by orders of magnitude) the length of time finite resources will last.

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

They’re certainly very careless about causing death though, aren’t they? That’s clearly acceptable collateral damage at the least.
If you Google some phrases like “population decrease needed…climate change” a number of hair raising papers arise discussing how much the reproduction rate and population numbers must decrease.
A mandatory contraceptive vaccination programme seems not implausible down the line. After the climate fear porn.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

I have had similar quandaries to deal with over time, and the putative forced vaccination of children, parents being sidelined, is the game changer for me. Info streaming from Stew Peters ( most of it, not all ) Del Bigtree, AFLDoctors, McCullough, Fleming, Cole, Ardis, Martin, Iaonnides, Bhakdi, vd Bossche, Yeadon – the list grows – all of these medics/scientists are risking personal relationships, careers and financial security by speaking out and I do not see too many UK politicians/SAGE illuminati doing similarly.

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QuickDrawMcGraw
QuickDrawMcGraw
3 years ago

I don’t think they’ll get the take-up for these ‘boosters’ that they think. I know a few people who have been double jabbed and are having regrets. No way are they having ‘boosters’. I also know people who haven’t been jabbed but who’ve told their employers that they have just so they don’t get hassle at work. I don’t believe that they have the numbers jabbed that they say they have either, they lie about everything. I don’t believe anything these tossers say!

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
3 years ago
Reply to  QuickDrawMcGraw

My sister is a hypochondriac and a regular pill popper so I fully expected her to get the jab, which she did. I asked if she was going for the booster but she said she wouldn’t. So there is hope yet!

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chris c
chris c
3 years ago
Reply to  QuickDrawMcGraw

BBC News (on in the background so I can keep up with The Enemy) states 6 million have “not yet” had their jabs. That’s quite a lot really. Doesn’t really tie up with the vaccie claims.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago

What we don’t want to do is boost people and then find we have a new variant and we can’t boost them again because we’ve boosted them too soon – and those people might not have needed the booster in the first place. So there’s a lot of very complicated modelling and data analysis that is going on about this at the moment.

If this doesn’t red pill you, turn you off and tells you that they are flying blind, making it up as they go along and will jab you at least twice a year for the rest of your likely short life if you succumb, you can’t be helped and fully deserve what’s coming.

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ebygum
ebygum
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Yes I agree, had this conversation with my neighbour (a believer)…where I pointed out it wasn’t a booster, it was exactly the same vaccination that she’d already had and which had already failed…twice! Her face was a Picture!

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

I’m not disagreeing with you but I like the comment that the booster shot is the same as the other 2 “vaccines”. Do you have a link to this as my Google search came up with the usual “why you should have the booster” clap trap.

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ebygum
ebygum
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

Is a third dose the same thing as a booster dose?The dosages are the same, but there’s a small medical distinction. The term is used differently based on who is receiving it. Boosters are offered to people who got the full course of a vaccine and developed a good response initially, but it waned over time. Third doses are given to people whose immune systems weren’t able to fully respond to the initial vaccines. That’s why the FDA and CDC first recommended an additional dose for immunocompromised individuals.

Will the boosters be different from the jabs administered so far?The Guardian understands the booster doses will not be specifically tweaked to tackle the Delta variant, which has become the UK’s dominant variant.

Looking at the USA and UK, and in Israel it’s just another dose. I think the term booster is being used to make it sound less invasive somehow. As in the statement from the USA above…it’s a booster dear not a third go at a failed vaccine!….

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

The government have invested billions of taxpayers money into these jabs and they have to get rid of them before their sell by date.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Meanwhile, there are those that have not been ill, not had the Vs, not having the boosters, not had side effects, still not been ill…

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ChaunceyTinker
ChaunceyTinker
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

People have been brainwashed by the media, I don’t think they deserve it. The media, the academics and the politicians do deserve to face consequences in a court of law however, there has been a gigantic abuse of power and influence here.

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dante
dante
3 years ago

Really great article Will, all be it in a holy fck what the hell is going on kind of way.

Thank you to who posted this Highwire yesterday, can’t remember who, but please all watch and share it.

https://rumble.com/vlve7n-are-we-starting-to-see-a.d.e..html

To vaccinate children, if they know this is starting to happen is criminal, no if’s, no buts, it’s criminal.

I’m not a science person, but I’m going to email Prof Harnden and basically beg him to hold his nerve, he sounds like a man who knows what is right and what is wrong, but must be facing insurmountable pressure.

May good win out in the end.

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A Y M
A Y M
3 years ago
Reply to  dante

Good call.

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dante
dante
3 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

Just done

Dear Professor Harnden,

Please forgive my impudence in emailing you, I can only imagine this is one of many hundreds of emails languishing in your inbox, but I feel compelled to send it anyway.

I wish to beg you to hold your nerve, and not submit to the insurmountable pressure you must be under to agree to the vaccination of young children.

I am not a scientist, or expert in anything, I don’t know about any of the issues you have to deal with, and would never import to. I am simply a terrified and overwhelmed mother who can’t quite believe the direction we are travelling, it feels like a runaway train that is about to come off the tracks, and I do not wish any child to be injured when that happens.

I implore you to stand your ground. Again, I have no other reason for saying so other than genuine fear and concern for the welfare of our most precious children.

Kind regards

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A Y M
A Y M
3 years ago
Reply to  dante

I think they listened to you. Perhaps the final straw?
BRAVO!!

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago

Oh, well, if the committee held a long meeting followed by a vote on Thursday, everything should be ok then!

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago

“Religious mania” Indeed, the religion in question being Satanism.

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A Heretic
A Heretic
3 years ago

Israel has now said that vaccine passports will only be valid for those who have had three shots, not two.

gee, nobody saw that coming.

But what does it mean? Let’s say you’re insane and decide to vaccinate your kid today. Will they really need to take all 3 shots before their passport is valid?

Last edited 3 years ago by A Heretic
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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

By the time everyone has had their third shot, it will be time for the fourth

There will never be a time when the population as a whole is “fully vaccinated” – this is excellent news for those who want to keep using covid as an excuse to grab more power

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

How many times do you need to be spiked to be “fully vaccinated”?

The answer is of course always one more than you have currently had (unless you are one of us filthy unvaccinated, where soon we’ll probably need a double-digit number of stabbings in order to be “fully vaccinated” because we are getting so far behind on the expected number…)

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ChaunceyTinker
ChaunceyTinker
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

… and profits.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I suggest grab more money instead: A mandatory, patented medicine which has to be taken ad infinitum in order to chase an effect it was never meant to have is the ultimate money maker for the pharma industry. They’ll just keep on vaxxing until everybody has died of some side effect (statistically, the chance to survive a COVID vaccination decreases with each shot).

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ChaunceyTinker
ChaunceyTinker
3 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

It’s going to be interesting to watch this escalate to a point where people can only travel in a short window after one or more (for each variant) recent booster shot. Madness.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago

Great article Will. Its what I have been waiting for from DailySceptic.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago

It’s not approaching it, it’s already there. Have you seen how many people walk on the street, by themselves, with no one else around, with masks on? I saw a couple out for a walk with their kid, and even the kid had a mask on! Or people wearing masks while in alone in their cars. How scared do you have to be of this thing to wear a mask with no one around? It’s beyond reason. There’s no one around you to give it to you or for you to give it to them, you are most likely already vaccinated, cause I can’t imagine you refused to, but you still wear a mask. Why? This has reached religious levels, with fear of an imaginary bogeyman requiring you to take irrational, ritual methods to ward off the bad juju.

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DoctorCOxford
DoctorCOxford
3 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

I figured all those people are just preparing for their holiday in Australia. Maybe not.

Irrational devotion by definition is disconnected from facts or logic. Last year Ivor Cummings mentioned the British town that bought a tiger horn, and then rings it every day, and lo and behold, no tigers. It’s lunacy. I don’t believe masks provide much (if any) reduction and no where to the level to afford it’s many costs, but there is negative proof wearing masks outside provides any benefit. It’s actually a harm. If this government wanted to prove itself honest it would run a campaign telling people, “masks outside are for superstitious numpties.” But somehow I can’t see this government ever being honest with people. Makes me wish I was Swedish for the first and only time.

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A Heretic
A Heretic
3 years ago
Reply to  DoctorCOxford

If this government wanted to prove itself honest it would run a campaign telling people, “masks outside are for superstitious numpties.”

fixed that for you.

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chris c
chris c
3 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Went round our town on Friday and was amazed how few masks there were.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago
Reply to  chris c

It’s getting better, but just wait a bit until the winter flu season starts…

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DoctorCOxford
DoctorCOxford
3 years ago

Any booster should be reserved for those few in the immuno suppressed community (cancer patients, Lupus, etc). The article pushing it from an Israeli doctor saying we had just weeks or to avoid their fate not only failed to realise we had Delta first or that the dip in cases among over 50s was both temporary and could be traced potentially to other factors. To say nothing or how those doses could help others globally.

As for 12-15 (really 12-17), here is what the government should do, regardless of JCVI decision. Send to every parent the actual known risk from Covid for their child, and then compare that risk to seasonal flu, traffic accidents, falls, lightning, swimming and so forth. Then provide proven data on vaccine issues with 18 and under from US, Canada and EU (where it’s been happening all year), so parents can know just how “reassuring” the vaccines are. If we give us these old fashioned things called facts, in context, and not fear, parents would see they either need to wrap their kids in bubble wrap and make them live 24/7 at home in a bubble or that, surprise, they should not be jabbing their children. Facts not fear.

I’m vaccinated. There is a risk-reward crossover point where vaccination, freely chosen, makes sense. It certainly doesn’t go down below 18, or truthfully under 25. So why this push? It’s either, given most under 25s have had Covid and thus already provide herd immunity benefit (94% of all adults), to make them be able to show highest vaccine rates globally or some other, non-medical motivation. Perhaps…unions?

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  DoctorCOxford

You say deal in facts then say there is a risk/reward cross-over point. Prove it, where are the facts?

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

I looked in the past and the crossover point for healthy males was ~50 years old, older for females.
I used the oxford covid risk calculator and then compared against the jab risks (using the massively understated figures).
BTW After i did this i realised what an utter con the whole COVID circus was.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago
Reply to  DoctorCOxford

I don’t know how an immune system ends up repressed, so I welcome any and all clarification. But… if the immune system is supressed, how are you going to get a vaccine reaction from it?

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
3 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

The vaxxine directs the immune system to look for specific virus strains leaving the immune system open to infections it would naturally have fought off. That is my understanding.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Yes, but if you have no immune system to speak of, what will the vaccine direct? Also, if you do have an immune system but it cannot recognize the viral particles and fight them, how will a vaccine get the immune system to recognize the viral particles and fight them?

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago
Reply to  DoctorCOxford

we don’t really know the cross-over point until we have long term vaccine safety data, we just know the long term safety data is less important for the elderly

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  DoctorCOxford

“As” for 12-15 (really 12-17), here is what the government should do…”

It’s too late for that. A lot of parents would not read it, or would read it and get their kids vaxxed anyway. People are not thinking straight. The mass vaccination program is simply evil and must be stopped now.

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Lister of Smeg
Lister of Smeg
3 years ago

Prof Sunetra Gupta’s (her of The Great Barrington Declaration) article in the Telegraph is going down well with readers.

TBH, I’m surprised the Telegraph even published it, let alone allowed comments, given who ‘finances’ their ‘Global Health Security’ section. Maybe one got through the cracks.

On the other side, (IMHO) creepy globalist elite ex-Health Sec (no, not Hancock) Jezza Hunt has been putting forward his ‘amazing plan’ for social care (presumably we now get to pay more to be infected with COVID and dumped back in a nursing home and left to die when we’re older).

Of course, the esteemed Telegraph editorial and moderator team has decreed no reader comments allowed on that one, and are seemingly deleting reader comments about the article from the BTL on today’s Letters Page.

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Amtrup
Amtrup
3 years ago
Reply to  Lister of Smeg

I think that Gupta still “passes” because she’s still at the “same table”, still discussing pros and cons for vaccines for certain age groups, conditions etc, ie. her arguments are “relative” and continue to give ( some/enough ) credence to the establishment’s narrative/”reality”.

Last edited 3 years ago by Amtrup
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Richard Austin
Richard Austin
3 years ago

It’s sheer insanity. “Okay, the vaccines do exactly what the manufacturers told us when they were developing them: they are not intended to prevent catching or passing on Covid. Right, so, what we will do is we will give people more of this and see if it does prevent them catching or passing on Covid. Sounds like a plan to me”. A voice at the back of the room says “What happens in 50 years when the boosters still aren’t preventing people catching or transmitting Covid?”.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

Not insanity. Evil.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

Humanity won’t exist in 50 years.

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mishmash
mishmash
3 years ago

Luciferian mania.

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dxb
dxb
3 years ago

I’m not sure how the tests work, so I might be about to write a load of rubbish, but:

If the vaccine mimics the virus enough to stimulate an appropriate immune system response, then wouldn’t the vaccine similarly cause a positive response to the test? If so, we would expect to see rising case numbers.

If the test is able to discriminate between the real virus and the vaccine, then presumably the immune system would differentiate between them too, reducing the effectiveness of the vaccine, leading to the evolution of more virus variants.

I’m more than happy if someone can put ne right on this!

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Lucan Grey
Lucan Grey
3 years ago
Reply to  dxb

The test looks for RNA strands from dead viruses. The vaccine uses a spike protein mimic to stimulate the immune system.

Since the test isn’t looking for the spike protein, vaccine cell remnants don’t trigger the test.

In dead cow terms, the test looks for the tail whereas the immune system is stimulated by a load of ears.

Last edited 3 years ago by Lucan Grey
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dxb
dxb
3 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

That’s clear – thank you!

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

This is unfortunately not true: The claim-to-fame for the so-called Kent variant was that S gene avoidance: A particular genetic something associated with the spike protein didn’t show up in tests anymore and it was conjectured that this spike protein mutation could enable immune escape.

Hence, tests do test for spike protein somethings.

NB: I’m absolutely not a subject matter expert, I’m just repeating this as it was published at that time.

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago

Breaking news: not enough evidence to justify vaccinating younger teens

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58438669

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ChaunceyTinker
ChaunceyTinker
3 years ago
Reply to  isobar

According to that the JCVI seems to be leaving open the possibility the govt could go ahead anyway on the basis of “wider issues”:

,,, refused to give the green light to vaccinating healthy children aged 12-15 years old on health grounds alone.

But the JCVI said the government should consider wider issues including disruption to schools.

It also says those 12-15 with underlying conditions will now be eligible for two doses – that’s one in 10 according to the numbers quoted.

Last edited 3 years ago by ChaunceyTinker
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isobar
isobar
3 years ago
Reply to  ChaunceyTinker

Yes, guess that you are right, didn’t spot that! My attention was taken with the headline.

Last edited 3 years ago by isobar
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ChaunceyTinker
ChaunceyTinker
3 years ago
Reply to  isobar

It is still good news though I think in that the fact that there’s no benefit for the children is plain for all to see, it might make more parents object, and maybe that will make the govt. more nervous about pressing ahead with the insanity.

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago
Reply to  ChaunceyTinker

Agree, let’s hope so!

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ellie-em
ellie-em
3 years ago

The reprehensible Spector raising his head again. Where does he get his funding from I wonder?

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