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Climate Activists Frustrated by IPCC’s Refusal to Link Extreme Weather With Carbon Emissions

by Chris Morrison
9 October 2024 7:00 AM

Last June, the state-reliant BBC reported that human-caused climate change had made U.S. and Mexico heatwaves “35 times more likely”. Nothing out of the ordinary here in mainstream media with everyone from climate comedy turn ‘Jim’ Dale to UN chief Antonio ‘Boiling’ Guterres making these types of bizarre attributions. But for those who closely follow climate science and the assessments of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), “such headlines can be difficult to make sense of”, observes the distinguished science writer Roger Pielke. In a hard-hitting attack on the pseudo-scientific industry of weather attribution, he states: “neither the IPCC nor the underlying scientific literature comes anywhere close to making such strong and certain claims of attribution”.

Pielke argues that the extreme position of attributing individual bad weather events is “roughly aligned” with the far Left. “Climate science is not, or at least should not serve as a proxy for political tribes,” he cautions. But of course it is. The Net Zero fantasy is a collectivist national and supra-national agenda that increasingly relies on demonising bad weather. With global temperatures rising at most only 0.1°C a decade, laughter can only be general and side-splitting when IPCC boss Jim Skea claims that British summers will be 6°C hotter in less than 50 years. Two extended temperature pauses since 2000 have not helped the cause of global boiling. In addition there are increasing doubts about the reliability of temperature recordings by many meteorological organisations that seem unable to properly account for massive urban heat corruptions.

The big problem for ‘far Left’ climate extremists is that event attribution is a form, in Pielke’s words, of “tactical science”. Such science serves legal and political ends and is not always subject to peer review. As the BBC and other media outlets can attest, the work is “generally promoted via press release”. It has been developed in response to the failure of the IPCC to detect and attribute most types of extreme weather including drought, flooding, storms and wildfires to human involvement, notes Pielke. Worse, the IPCC can find little sign of human involvement going forward to 2100.

Scientists cannot answer directly whether particular events are caused by climate change since extremes occur naturally. Meanwhile the IPCC is somewhat dismissive about weather attribution, or as Pielke terms it, “weather attribution alchemy”. It notes: “The usefulness or applicability of available extreme event attribution methods for assessing climate-related risks remains subject to debate.” The IPCC is a biased body full of climate alarmists, but its inability to attribute single events to humans is obviously highly irritating and somewhat inconvenient for activists and their media counterparts.

Dr. Friederike Otto runs World Weather Attribution (WWA) out of Imperial College London and is a frequent presence on the BBC. WWA is behind many of the immediate attributions of bad weather to human causes and its motives are clear. As Dr. Otto has noted: “Unlike every other branch of climate science or science in general, event attribution was actually originally suggested with the courts in mind.” Otto is clear that the main function of such studies, part-funded by Net Zero-supporting billionaires and heavily pushed by aligned mainstream media, is to support lawsuits against fossil fuel companies. She explains this strategy in detail in the interview, ‘From Extreme Event Attribution to Climate Litigation‘.

The inability of the IPCC to attribute bad weather to humans has been viewed by climate advocates as “politically problematic”, continues Pielke. He notes the work of climate activists Elizabeth Lloyd and Naomi Oreskes who are worried that the lack of attribution “conveys the impression that we just do not know, which feeds into uncertainty, doubt or incompleteness, and the general tendency of humans to discount threats that are not imminent”.

Perish the thought that there should be uncertainty, doubt or incompleteness in the settled world of climate science. It is of course different from all other branches of science in that all its opinions are right and consequently there is no need for the unhelpful process of constant inquiry and experiment. It need hardly be added that no doubt exists at the BBC, where former Radio 4 Today Editor Sarah Sands wrote the foreword to a WWA guide for journalists. Recalling when the late Nigel Lawson suggested there had been no increase in extreme weather, Sands noted: “I wish we had this guide for journalists to help us mount a more effective challenge to his claim.” These days, Sands enthused, attribution studies have given us “significant insight into the horsemen of the climate apocalypse”.

For her part, Otto is keen to crack down on the heretics. She was at the forefront of the recent notorious retraction of a paper in a Springer Nature journal that stated there was no evidence that the climate was breaking down. Written by four Italian scientists and led by Professor Gianluca Alimonti, they argued that a climate emergency was not supported by the data. Otto, who had previously worked in the Oxford School of Geography for 10 years, claimed the scientists were not writing in good faith. “If the journal cares about science they should withdraw it loudly and publicly saying it should never have been published,” she demanded.

Chris Morrison is the Daily Sceptic’s Environment Editor.

Tags: Attribution studiesClimate AlarmismExtreme weatherIPCCNet ZeroPropagandaRoger PielkeThe Science

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago

Guardian readers like to look down on people. Not a shock

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

They do!

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Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Maybe they do but there are not many of them. In fact, very few people ‘read’ a newspaper whether it is online or in print.

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TheBigman
TheBigman
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Angel Eco Warrior

Those in power and influence read it. Others read it because of the others that do. I suppose it helps that the Guardian have a trust fund keeping them going or they would have went bankrupt may years ago

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

Buyer’s remorse has many forms

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

It does!

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Mr Taxpayer
Mr Taxpayer
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Yup. Comparing with Brexit, you can see other evidence, change your mind and switch your support. You cannot be unjabbed.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr Taxpayer

Looking at the EUSSR vassal country’s “response” to SARS2 I’m even more glad to escape the EUSSR than pre-referendum.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Dellingpole made the point that it doesn’t seem to make much difference. Our vaccine rollout to me was just a prise in logistics, nothing else. We are still signed up to this Net 0 and have as someone mentioned in the Canadian Parliament ‘outside interference’ referring to WEF but there was a convenient technical issue with the micraphone.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

It could be partly buyers remorse, but the simplest explanation is that people are just parroting what they’ve been fed for 12 months.

There has been a deliberate, well orchestrated, very well funded, intensive, global campaign for 12 months telling people that getting jabbed is a good thing, and resisting the jab is stupid and selfish.

And a study now shows that … people think getting jabbed is a good thing, and resisting the jab is stupid and selfish.

Most people don’t have the mental stamina to resist that sort of relentless assault.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Indeed. I’m sure it’s no coincidence that the term “safe and effective” is used over and over again in many different places – that has the nudge unit’s fingerprints all over it.

Likewise with the dubious claim that it prevents serious illness, after it became untenable to carry on insisting that it reduced transmission when it was clear to even the believers that it did no such thing.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

“Keeping you Safe” – now a phrase to make you shudder !

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Yes, that too – and it’s variants: “stay safe”, the ultra-patronising “let’s keep everyone safe”, etc!

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sunjor
sunjor
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Drives me nuts someone in a shop said it to me just the other day and looked aghast as I said I didn’t want to be safe I just wanted to live.

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LovelyGirl
LovelyGirl
3 years ago
Reply to  sunjor

A homeless man I met a few years ago was aghast when I said “Take care” on saying goodbye. “No!” he responded, “Don’t take care, take a risk!” I loved it.

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  sunjor

Yep- me too, or I say no- be bold! I told someone else to put their big boy trousers on and get on with it- it didn’t go down well…

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

I saw a discarded magazine earlier which had a headline “saving lives in afghanstan”. Heaven help them i thought. Havent they already suffered enough, without the whole saving lives experience coming to town

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CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

I’ve never understood the gullibility, shortly before all this kicked off I was reading The Origins of Totalitarianism, The Captive Mind, The Gulag Archipelago among other works on a similar theme, never thinking I’d have to put up with totalitarian control myself, with a dose of medical tyranny on top.

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pjar
pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  CovidiotAntiMasker

Oddly, I was reading the Gulag Archipelago, at around the same time, thinking smugly how it could never happen here… not so smug now.

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SashaR
SashaR
3 years ago
Reply to  CovidiotAntiMasker

My reading list too. Solzhenistsyn’s quote about acknowledging lies coming into the world but refusing to pass them on, is something I have reflected on throughout this. I would never have imagined what has transpired. But the most accurate take on what is happening now is, I think, Sheldon Wolin’s Inverted Totalitarianism – basically the dissolution of the state from within through the neutralisation of the political process. A corporate take over and the eradication of citizenship.

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TheBigman
TheBigman
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Marxist handbook. Use a slogan tha can be repeated over and over till it sinks in without question. Usually always three words.
Save the NHS.
For Your Safety.
Stop the Spread.
Education education education.

Once you see it, you’ll seeit everywhere

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sunjor
sunjor
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Absolutely agree also no MSM reporting on side effects, lack of efficacy etc etc.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

“Safe and effective” is a term they’ve been employing as a mantra, with regard to all vaccines, for years.
Those who were forced to take the jab or lose a job they need have a different view, I find – but understandably do not want to hear anything more about “vaccine” dangers.

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pjar
pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

There was, quite early on, a real attempt to deliberately use ‘peer pressure’ from the community to drive, and police, the covid response. It originated with the BIT Mindspace/nudge programme, if I recall correctly? Good luck with getting the genie back in the bottle…

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  pjar

I live in a small village and it’s been very effective- plenty of watchers ready to pounce and report transgressors to the proper authorities. For the benefit of everyone, of course. Hikers and cyclists were told off routinely. I pointed out to someone that cyclists tend not to ride around throwing bags of Covid everywhere so I didn’t see the problem. ‘Oh, you’re one of those.’ was the response. They were all out clapping and banging pans, with a few marching up and down the street to see who was and was not doing their duty- and woe betide anyone who wasn’t. Sadly, these people were generally nowhere to be seen on VE Day 2020 or Remembrance Sunday. To say I am disgusted doesn’t come close.

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I have asked many people why they need me to be vaccinated if they have had their jabs. If they work so well, why does it matter if anyone else is vaccinated? If they don’t work for you as well as you’d hoped- what’s the bleedin’ point anyway? I have yet to receive a coherent answer.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Including it seems resenting those who were smart enough not to be fooled by the Sales Pitch!

( Anything but taking full responsibility for one’s own freely decided actions)

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

But it wasn’t “freely decided” – and that’s what they can’t face.
I’m amazed by the vast numbers of people who can’t freely decide anything for themselves. They want others to decide for them. The sole decision they make is to pick the decision-maker. (It helps if they stand behind a podium, with a signer nearby to show that they’re inclusive and it’s really important that everyone understands them).
When the decision-makers turn out to be liars and fools, the non-decision-makers are faced with their failure to make even that decision wisely. Most would rather not look and think – which is what they failed to do in the first place.

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Gregoryno6
Gregoryno6
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

I’ve been working on my version of The Great Australian Novel – no please, don’t run away! – for about thirty years. The last two years have presented real life scenarios that I sketched out in the story, but hesitated over because they seemed too unrealistic.
One involved a con-man whose victims can’t accept that he ripped them off. They poured everything they had into his scheme, they’re reduced to living in spare rooms with relatives, but still they hang on tight to the illusion of imminent wealth.
The steady collapse of the covid circus proves my idea wasn’t so unrealistic after all. The true believers are hanging on tight to the illusion of everlasting (if regularly updated) health.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

Put me down for a copy.
Some fascinating work is going to come out of all this.

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

They do have to decide which mask to wear, which is obviously trying for the poor dears.

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JXB
JXB
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

The Believer v the Infidel. Burn them!

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Paul B
Paul B
3 years ago

All a part of the plan!

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

It is!

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D B
D B
3 years ago

Backs up my lived experience perfectly.

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FrankFisher
FrankFisher
3 years ago

Actually I despise them.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  FrankFisher

I don’t despise those who have been clotshotted, but I do despise the clotshot evangelists who try to push others into getting it.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

I don’t despise those who fell for the injection scam but I do struggle to understand their lack of research.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

They are under the mistaken impression that public health “experts” and the MSM (especially the BBC) are trustworthy.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

The first of their many mistakes but the cause of them all!

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I’ll second this motion. Most people I know took it so they could book a holiday.

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D B
D B
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Baffling reason in my eyes

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

I despise those who did it for such vacuous reasons.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

I’m not all that fond of them but leaving aside one’s feelings we have to confront the fact that they are collaborating with fascism and with our oppression.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yes!
That’s the dark lining to my wish to be sympathetic to the duped and save my bile for those who deceived them.
But for Christ’s sake – being an adult requires the acceptance of adult responsibilities.
Behind closed doors, in private, I curse them for being selfish cowards – whose selfish cowardice has enabled the oppression and suffering of millions.

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Crissylis
Crissylis
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Yes. All the information that is coming out now; adverse “vaccine” side-effects, damage to immune systems, negative effectiveness etc etc was all available right at the start of the roll-out for anyone who bothered to do any research. The warnings were there.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Crissylis

Yeadon was on to it 18 months ago trying so hard to get the message across.

That’s why they silenced him on MSM. and Social Media.

Pure Criminality isn’t it?

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

My knee jerk reaction has been to blame them – for selling out humanity for the sake of convenience – but I have tried not to hate them per se. Having said that, I have not been able to maintain friendships with people who have, there’s too much of an elephant in the room.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

This is my dilemma too. Charity has its place, and we all want to be decent. But there are hurdles, to put it mildly.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Charity is fine, the hurdle is to make people realise that vaccine coercion is wrong, and that showing your papers to go on holiday is enabling fascism

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I’ve come to realize most seem to struggle even with this low level of critical thought. That includes “educated” professionals.

I’m beginning to think many dislike thinking itself.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

It’s uncomfortable for them to think that the world they are in can be quite horrible and that they might be a part of that

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Hate and despise are totally different.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Supporting vaccine mandates of any kind – vaccine coercion – is where I part company.
How can you remain on good terms with people who have no respect for your right to decide what is injected into your body?
To agree or disagree with someone about the efficacy or dangers is one thing; to tell people that they should be forced to comply with your opinion is another.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Yes I agree. Plus, agreeing with the mandating of this vaccine, when it’s common knowledge that it doesn’t stop transmission is a crime against logic, as well as a crime against freedom. Such people are not well and probably best avoided. They will have to learn the hard way.

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Quite different from the ‘my body, my choice’ mantra of the pro-abortion lobby, isn’t it? Ironically, the choice they talk of doesn’t extend to the unborn child. They really can’t see the contradiction in this I’ve discovered. On the one hand, they want to force everyone else to do something that has no effect on them simply to appear virtuous, on the other hand they demand absolute autonomy over their own bodies, even when this directly affects another person.

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Geo870
Geo870
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Your last sentence hit me. I’m in the same boat. Two old friends – one of whom wasn’t really a great friend anyway – are ‘fully’ vaccinated, whatever that means and it’s definitely impacted our friendships..

I ended up having an argument with one towards the end of last year – I respectfully gave my reasons for not taking the vaccine and he ended up storming out of the bar we were in. We haven’t spoken since, even though I sent him a ‘water under the bridge’ text the next day – I heard nothing back.

Another friend I know who has been ‘holding strong’ this whole time took the plunge and told me he had taken two jabs to go to Thailand on holiday. To be honest it was disappointing to hear that from someone who seemed to be resistant to the propaganda. Suffice to say I haven’t heard from him as much and after hearing how he turned the corner I feel I lost a bit of respect for him. Sad how people can seemingly give up their principles so easily.

I guess all us who are still unvaccinated – I suppose a large proportion on the site – can consider ourselves proud that we’ve stuck to our principles all this time without giving up. We’ve resisted the mainstream media wave of propaganda and stood firm. If that isn’t a mark of character, I don’t know what is.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Geo870

I find it breathtaking how much damage has been done to society. These fractures run through every family, every household, every circle of friends. And I’m with you; there are a small number of things I’m proud of, and living in a family who have all resisted this injection is one of them. Being sceptical might have saved or lives!

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SashaR
SashaR
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Yes, same has happened to me. I can’t help getting angry at people who imagine themselves to be so virtuous but turn a blind eye to all the suffering caused to children not to mention the terrible effects of unnecessary lockdowns in the global south – Toby Green’s [prof of African Studies at SOAS] Covid Consensus is shocking. All the kids out of school, girls into prostitution or married off young. The broken economies. The halt on necessary vaccinations like measles and all the subsequent disease and deaths. But friends – former – feeling it all to be necessary to keep them safe on zoom. So disgusted.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

How about we leave it at:

I feel sorry for those who fell for the jab as a helpful medical intervention.
I feel even sorrier for those who took it to travel or “get back to normal”
But I sure as hell hate those who want to force it on those of us who don’t want it.

And hate would be putting it mildly.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I suppose the bottom line for me is this:

I feel sorriest for the many I know (one of whom suffered an immediate serious “adverse event” following the second jab – with ongoing complications) who were forced to take the jab in order to keep their jobs.

  • For the rest, I am distressed by the injuries some have have already suffered and hope with all my heart that the others will be lucky.
  • For those who agreed with the coercion, the loss of respect is probably irreparable.
  • For those who devised, led and manipulated; for those who injected without taking the trouble to ask questions about what they were injecting – I want punishment.
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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Or their lack of insight into their own kids’ futures!

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

You mean the ones who have had the Saline?

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  FrankFisher

I merely dislike them for their unthinking stupidity.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  FrankFisher

For many people, this will have been a question of Do you trust your GP? and for those who haven’t had (a lot of) bad experiences with the medical profession, the answer will be Yes. Especially older people.

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loopDloop
loopDloop
3 years ago
Reply to  FrankFisher

Yeah, me too, I despise them. They are the same people who have been telling me I’m contemptible for years because of climate change and every other stupid thing. I’m sick of the patronising b*llsh*t and the name-calling. I despise them. If you took the vaccine, you’re dead to me.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

You are contradicting the Article

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

Oof I like it!

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

I know the feeling. It’s one thing saying we should just accept their choice, it’s quite another when you consider some of the insults and accusations- I’ve been called all sorts of things from anti-social, (which is fine), selfish, uncaring, heartless, to granny killing child murderer- often by people who don’t know me. These things won’t be forgotten.

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago

“the research discovered anti-vaccine people are viewed negatively.”

You only have to look at the language they use to understand their clearly unconscious negative bias. The 100,000 NHS workers who refused the government’s injection probably had all the usual vaccinations at school, as did their children, as did I. I also had several vaccinations during the course of work. I’m not anti vaccines, I’m anti vaccine mandated coercion. If the ‘vaccines’ were safe for use, they wouldn’t still have emergency use only authorisation.

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

They shouldn’t have emergency use only authorisation as of Johnsons announcement yesterday. We are now going to live with an ‘endemic’ virus, the emergency is over and so therefore should be the authorisation for the jabs.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

That’s a very good point. In the absence of clear evidence for benefit, for most people, one could argue that resisting vaxxing is a political duty.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Or a “duty” to the future of humanity?

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Absolutely.

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paul parmenter
paul parmenter
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

That is supposed to be what politics are for, are they not?.

Try not to laugh, please.

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
3 years ago

I’ve never yet met a single vaccinated person who knew more than I did about infection rates, how the ‘vaccine’ works, efficacy etc than I do, but, yeah, of course we’re the unintelligent, ignorant, ones. I honestly believe that most people despise the unvaxxed because they showed an intelligence, patience, and an ability to think critically and calmly, which the vaxxed could not. In short, most know they’ve been sold a dud and take their anger out on the ones who thought it looked like a dud and wanted to see if it was one. Nobody likes to be proven an idiot… although the Guardian, and their readers, seem to strive for that very label.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

I suspect the thinking was this – vax is announced, wall to wall propaganda, some doubts due to the speed of the development. But, “everyone” is taking it, so they take it to avoid confrontation or in some cases to avoid research and thinking. It is always easier to play along with a narrative as challenging it takes effort and occasionally some risk.

Then you meet a reasonable person you know who has declined. That person is an uncomfortable reminder you too could have declined. This creates mental anguish. You were weak, the other person wasn’t. At the very least it creates doubt.

It is far easier to pigeon hole the unvaxxed into a stereotype. A knuckle-dragging halfwit, a conspiracy theorist or misinformed person.

It also explains why we’ve seen so much polarisation in recent years. Brexit being another example. A sizeable chunk of the population is animated by poorly reasoned claptrap someone on TV told them. Alternative views come from horrible people. Those people aren’t just antivaxxers they are also homophobic racist climate deniers too 🧐

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Yes its the ‘freedom from’ against the ‘freedom to’. The timing of all this was determined by how infantile the majority of the population has been trained to be.
The majority now see ‘freedom’ as being protection ‘from’ any hob goblin invented by the rulers.
Time was the rulers just used the ‘push the bolder up the hill and kicking it down again’ method of control. Now they have decided it needs the people employed to push the boulder to be totally divided in many ways. Its actually a sign they were getting worried about their ability to kick it back down again. Easier to make sure it never gets far up the hill at all by having the pushers so divided.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

I’m not sure I credit them with that level of foresight. I do think they are more reactionary than that.

Plus the people who instigate these schemes quickly lose control of them. They created a monster and I suspect even the Nudge Unit people were shocked at how compliant people were.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Their mistake was to trust politicians and Health Service personnel – I know one who told me “It’s just an ordinary vaccine” – must be hundreds who said the same thing to thousands of people who asked the question.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

They have been doing this for centuries.
Don’t underestimate your enemy, its fatal.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

A very astute assessment I think.

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Paul B
Paul B
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

It was a social thing, people would say “I’ve had ‘mine’, have you had yours?” Madness.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

I agree. It was conversational. I got mine over the bank holiday as it was nice and quiet IN THE CAR PARK WHERE TOTAL STRANGERS WITH MINIMAL MEDICAL TRAINING WERE INJECTING PEOPLE. When did you get yours.

Strikingly, the conversation wasn’t “are you considering taking this recently developed biological agent with no medium or longterm safety profile, based on technology with a questionable success record for an illness no one you know has succumbed to?”.

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Arum
Arum
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Or the ‘how bad was your reaction’ conversation, do you remember those? Did an online meeting at some point and everyone there was chipping in – ooh, we had Moderna – awful, was in bed for 2 days etc. etc. ad nauseam

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Arum

Ha ha. Yes I do.

I was fine, sore arm for an hour. But both the kids died, the wife’s in ICU. But we did our bit 🤡

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Arum
Arum
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

I had a conversation with someone I thought was sceptical at work, his wife was ill for a week after her first jab, and when he found out about reverse transcriptase he was petrified. But they both went on to get their second jab…

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Arum

I overheard one on Friday; two female friends discussing what sounded like quite serious period irregularities in the most nonchalant way. Unbelievable!

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Arum

Amusing now that most of the jabbed were vastly more ill for longer by the jabs than what it was supposed to be prophylactic for.

I always say I wasn’t jabbed and i took lemsip for 3 days and that was it. the jabbed had a week of pain for each jab!

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Arum
Arum
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

At college it seems kids are routinely off for a day following each jab, then later off for a week self-isolating when they test positive!

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Arum

Some are “off” for good!

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Yes – it was the thing to do.
I was asked, “Haven’t you had it done?”, in the same way that I was asked, “Aren’t you on Facebook?”

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Exactly- absolutely everyone I know couldn’t wait. No one even considered the possibility that they didn’t have to have it. I kept being asked if I had been ‘invited’ yet. When I said I didn’t feel the need any more than I did for the flu jab you would have thought I’d just admitted to being an international mass murderer. The looks of sheer incomprehension were something to behold.

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JeremyP99
JeremyP99
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

Nice buffer….

“I’m not sure it works….”

Then they have no idea, not that it’s anyone’s business if you have been jabbed or not. Only one person has asked me, a neighbour who we like very much, so I told him no, told him WHY no, and he responded – yes. my brother hasn’t had it for similar reasons.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

Those Facebook ‘badges’ you could get to add to your profile pic!!! 🤢

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

They might even be racism deniers! Unspeakable depravity!

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

No they’re generally clueless. The best one I’ve heard (I’ve probably said it on here before) was from my own highly educated sister, who said to me defensively when I asked her if she’d looked into what was in the vaccine, “well do you know what’s in a paracetamol?!” 🙈

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Well yes, actually because I do my due diligence! Not to mention that paracetamol isn’t exactly new or experimental…

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jsampson1945
jsampson1945
3 years ago

Thanks for telling me what my opinions are. Not.

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timsk
timsk
3 years ago

“. . .The study found that vaccinated people would be far happier seeing a close relative marry a middle eastern migrant rather than someone who has not been jabbed.”

Well, I suppose the good news is that at least those amongst the jabbed who look down their noses at the unjabbed aren’t racist. Every cloud ‘n all that! 🙂

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  timsk

They can’t be because we are, and it’s not racist to be racist about racists who are already racist.

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  timsk

My sister in law was like that, until her daughter declined the second jab after being ill with the first dose and doing a bit of research. All of sudden it was, ‘Well, I don’t think you should be forced and I’m not sure we need boosters’. It was like seeing a lifelong Liverpool fan come out as a Man Utd supporter!

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itoldyouiwasill
itoldyouiwasill
3 years ago

I don’t despise the vaccinated. In some cases, I pity them, especially family members who have had the vaccine (one who had to or risk losing their job and final salary pension).
I refuse to go along with the divide and conquer tactics of the elite and their mates in the liberal media. I go in my local, and am open about the fact I am unvaccinated. People are curious in some cases but generally don’t give a shit. I don’t believe surveys like this for one minute.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  itoldyouiwasill

“I refuse to go along with the divide and conquer tactics of the elite and their mates in the liberal media”

We don’t have a ‘liberal’ media. It’s all bought by global capital.

But apart from that – you’re bang on about the deluded divide-and-rule manipulation that many commenting here are suffering from, as they indulge in the same mental set as this survey allegedly identifies in the vaccinators!

Gullible all round.

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NeilofWatford
NeilofWatford
3 years ago

Am I the only one to see what Johnson hasn’t relinquished?
-The emergency powers.
-Still allowing our discredited, unelected scientists to share the platform (ie govern).
-Masking.
-Compulsory vaxxing.
-Lots of grey areas for the corporate/industrial complex to interpret in its risk averse way, doing the government’s bidding without being seen to be asked.
Seems to me he’s done what usually does. A massive PR blitz with very little real benefit. Keeping the powder dry for more ‘resetting’.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

You’re dead right with this.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

Playing it both ways seems to be a strategy he always employs. Unfortunately, this implies that every positive action may eventually be reversed, ie, that the guy is inherently untrusworthy as he might swap friends and enemies at any time.

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Watney
Watney
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

It’s the ratchet effect.
You give up some rules but keep others back and the MSM screams all the restrictions lifted. Did this yesterday for UK and I see (somewhat lock-step like) Ireland, according to The Grauniad just now “Ministers in Ireland have approved plans to remove almost all Covid-related restrictions, including the wearing of face masks, on Monday.” except again it’s only partial. The ratchet effect allows the normalisation of curbs on the UK subjects

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

Nope- I’ve been saying it for weeks. It’s not all over, all the restrictions aren’t gone and it sure as hell ain’t back to normal!

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Eric Olthwaite
Eric Olthwaite
3 years ago

People who have had a Covid vaccine hold negative views about people who have not…’

I’ll take that as respect then … you’ll find that the vaccinated don’t dislike the unvaccinated – they dislike themselves … but they project their self-hatred onto the unvaccinated because the unvaccinated are a reflection of what and where they wish to be.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Olthwaite

Good point. Envy, one of the seven deadly sins. If only I’d held back and resisted.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Olthwaite

They do not want their suppressed worries about what they have done to themselves confirmed and resent the messenger – same old!

The Messenger who brought the King news that his entire Army had been wiped out was usually executed on the spot!

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

Just to recap the madness

Lockdown, wear masks, walk anti clockwise, close schools, trash the economy, keep two metres apart etc to prevent contracting or spreading the virus

In order to save us from the above madness introduce a ‘vaccine’ that does not effect contraction or transmission

Brilliant

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PoshPanic
PoshPanic
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Went mask free and walked clockwise. My social credit score must be taking a hit

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dante
dante
3 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

I never used to be much of a rule breaker before, now I take great pleasure breaking as many insane rules as I can.

In fact, I see it as my civic duty.

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  dante

Where have you been? I’ve been doing it since the 80s!

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Mumbo Jumbo
Mumbo Jumbo
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

You forgot saw the bottom off school doors.

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Vxi7
Vxi7
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Walk anticlockwise? I am not familiar with this. Could you give some explanation?

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  Vxi7

Arrows in pubs and shops

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Vxi7
Vxi7
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Thanks I was not sure if this refers to that.

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PoshPanic
PoshPanic
3 years ago

It’s not just unvaccinated, but anybody with opposing views to the narratives of the globalist agenda, are labelled as right wing extremists, mysogynists, racists, conspiracy theorists, anti vaxxers. Even when it’s clear for all to see that this is a complete fabrication.
There is a term to describe the above.. Clownworld

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

It is quite blatant now. The Canadian truckers being a recent example; I think this peaked with one of the organizers, a female with native Indian ancestry, being lumped in with the rest of the misogynist white supremacists 🤠

Last edited 3 years ago by Vaxtastic
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Dodderydude
Dodderydude
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Not to mention the Sikh (replete with turban) spokesman who clearly identifies as a white racist. Shame on him!

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Dodderydude

Those transracialists are the worst of the bunch 🧐

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago

I would not use the word “despise” to describe my feelings about the vaxxed, however:

  1. I find it hard to completely respect people who got jabbed just to be able to go on holiday or go clubbing or whatever it is they thought they needed it for, because they sold themselves cheap and have not done their bit to resist vaxx mandates, passports etc
  2. I have doubts about the sincerity of people who say “I got it to protect others” – I tend to think they actually got it for themselves or to go on holiday or because of peer pressure, but it’s sounds better to virtue-signal about it
  3. I find it hard to respect anyone who supports the mass vaxxing program because I think it’s deeply immoral and foolhardy
  4. I tend to think those who got jabbed because they were afraid are bit a weak-minded, but I don’t despise them
  5. Anyone who got jabbed because they might lose their jobs I have sympathy for though ideally it would have been better to resist
  6. I’m happy to move on and forget all this provided that people admit that vaxx mandates and passports are completely wrong, and that the mass vaxxing was and is wrong, and they undertake not to use their vaxx status for personal advantage
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TheGreenAcres
TheGreenAcres
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

All good points!

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Number 2 is likely to have a very large overlap with Guardian readers!

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I should say that I don’t advocate going around haranguing the vaxxed or anything, but I don’t see how we can avoid the subject and remain true to our thoughts on this whole folly and evil – getting vaxxed to go on holiday is just giving in to fascism and people need to realise it’s possible to resist – look at the NHS 100,000 who forced the u-turn. If it had been 1,000 they’d have all been sacked.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

The worry is that if they really do roll out a social credit score mechanism I know I absolutely cannot count on most of the vaxxed to push against it. When you won’t resist an experimental drug with no safety profile even over the medium term you are unlikely to resist something less immediately invasive.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Social credit has nothing to do with actually social behaviour, it’s more a cattle treat system.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Yes, and that’s why we can’t just ignore the vaxxed and why they got vaxxed or just write it off as a personal, private choice. I am afraid it has become political.

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D B
D B
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I guess if we are arguing for the right to bodily autonomy then we have to conceded they can do what they want too – my partner usually reminds me of this when I get riled up with the masked up sheep on the train.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  D B

Well, the trouble is that most of the vaxxed will support vaxx passports and/or mandates, either actively or tacitly by showing their papers. They will also actively or tacitly support the vaxxing of children, the suppression of vaccine information and lies that prevent informed consent, and of course wasting billions of OUR money on a useless, harmful, political intervention.

Yes there are vaxxed people who did it for their own protection who support none of the above, but I reckon not many.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Indeed. The vaxxed status tells you something about the level of critical thinking people possess. We can then speculate about other events, like the introduction of social control methods, and how much thinking they’ll bring to the table.

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Someone has already told me that she cannot see any problems with the “vax pass” to get into nightclubs and the like. They’re only asking for proof you are vaccinated, she said, what’s wrong with that? It’s nothing!

It’s nothing until it affects you; then it becomes Something. But by then it is too late.

I despair.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Say yes you’re catholic and it would be handy to stop those who had abortions going to church.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Actually, the “vaxxed” are, by defintion, many and varied. Same basic assortment as the “un-vaxxed”, even if wrong and susceptible to this propaganda.

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago

We dont need ‘studies’ to show that elements of the ‘vaxxed’ authoritarian mafia hate us and hate freedom….

gas the unvacinated.jpg
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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

But collectivism is just an economic model, not an entire philosophy appealing to the hard of thinking 🤔

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

If you believe you own the person next to you then slavery is just an “economic model”, just not a moral one.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Great point!

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Silke David
Silke David
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Will a person holding this sign be arrested for a public disorder or incitement to violence? No.
Are yellow board holders harrased? Yes.

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Liz F
Liz F
3 years ago

Oh why don’t these stupid people just grow up. What would they do if a loved one needed a blood transfusion and the only blood available was from an unvaccinated person? How far would they go with their ridiculous prejudice?

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  Liz F

Would you accept a blood transfusion from a 5G, internet of bodies, gene-edited, nanoteched, magnetised, bluetoothed, clot-shot jockey?

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timsk
timsk
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Hi cornubian,
I so wish you had an image to accompany this description! 😉

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  timsk

Best I can do…
Their Fuhrer Schwab giving a WEF speech.

shwab.png
Last edited 3 years ago by cornubian
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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Is that Klaus Schwab again?

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

That is a serious worry.

Surely people needing blood should be told it is from “vaxxed” or untaxed donors.

Crikey, this is a mine field.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

In this country that would be discrimination to reveal that. Aren’t they campaigning to allow homosexual men to donate blood, which is currently banned I believe?

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Its not discrimination as those laws only apply to people with ‘protected characteristics’ and being injected is not covered by this cultural Marxist dogma.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Indeed. What a farce.

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

This is interesting. Presumably this is to reduce the risk of HIV. But if the vaccines can lead to the risk of you testing positive for HIV (or at least that Australian one did), how would you know if someone really had HIV or not? 🤔

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Old Maid
Old Maid
3 years ago

Does anyone have a link to the actual study? I can’t find anything on Aarhus University’s site, and none of the ‘news’ items about it link to it, which I always find suspicious.

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
3 years ago
Reply to  Old Maid

When I see a news item like this, it’s the first thing I look for, the actual study itself. I couldn’t find it either. Not at all interested in what the media think about the study.

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
3 years ago
Reply to  Old Maid

lone_pair_777 found the link and posted it on the reddit site. The study link is

https://psyarxiv.com/t2g45/

Last edited 3 years ago by Freecumbria
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Old Maid
Old Maid
3 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Thank you.

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dante
dante
3 years ago

The most vaccine hesitant group of all… PhDs actually.

https://unherd.com/thepost/the-most-vaccine-hesitant-education-group-of-all-phds/

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  dante

I know quite a few PhDs, all injected to the max.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Yes I’m the brother of one. 🙄

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Snap

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zners
zners
3 years ago

called being in denial

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Dave Bollocks
Dave Bollocks
3 years ago

Makes me laugh that THEY think WE are stupid!

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago

What vaccinated people think or don’t think has been a mystery to me from the beginning.

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago

People don’t like to admit they were stupid so the easiest way out is to be aggressive towards those who didn’t fall for the con.

It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. Mark Twain

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago

The hatred and discrimination always was and is entirely one-sided.

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dante
dante
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

I wonder if it stems from the whole “we are not safe until we are all safe” messaging that came out around the same time as the vaccine roll out. Someone actually said that to me at the time!

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  dante

I don’t mind what Mark Steyn says on GB News….”stay safe and stay free”

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago

That’s because people who realise they simply don’t need this injection are driven by reasoned, civilised debate of available evidence, unlike many of the injected folks who are now so bitter that they were lied to that they turn against those who saw through the lie (instead of turning against those who told the lie).

Last edited 3 years ago by Marcus Aurelius knew
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Dame Lynet
Dame Lynet
3 years ago

I think truculent resentment is a far better descriptor for what they are experiencing towards the unvaxxed, rather than despising them.

Any expression of spite is a big giveaway.

Last edited 3 years ago by Dame Lynet
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John
John
3 years ago

From the small sample on here I would suggest that it works both ways equally. Personally I don’t care if a person has had a vaccine or not, it is personal choice, the same as for any medical intervention.
If you are against a specific vaccination for whatever reason then you should accept that people have a different view without name calling or demeaning them, and vice versa of course.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  John

Indeed. TPTB want us divided in as many ways as possible. We will not allow that. We sceptics are better than that.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

divided into smaller and smaller groups except at the individual level.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  John

I think it’s very hard to separate the issues. I believe 100% in personal choice, but as per my points elsewhere in this thread, there are wider issues around the whole business of covid vaxxes which I don’t think we can avoid confronting as they are fundamental. In some ways I think the mass vaxxing and everything that has gone with it is the maddest and most evil part of the whole thing.

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JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

You are right, but that will prove to be the hardest part – convincing people that the mandates and passports are completely wrong and were, in fact, the driving force behind the vaxxing of all in the first place.

The latter point sounds like conspiracy theory to them so most immediately switch off. The first points, about mandating and the need for the pass – a lot of people even now think it is a simple vaxx as we have known them all their lives. They have no idea of the side effects and even less idea of the immune suppression and mid/long-term damage that might be done to the immune system. They have not read enough and cannot get it into their heads that all our politicians and all our doctors would not know these things, so assume it must be okay. The fact that most of the politicians and doctors are humans too and have been just as happy to follow the propaganda has never crossed their minds.

However, as the vaxx failed to amazingly, more and more people are bailing out on continued boosting – if the passes are still pushed and more people get locked out, more people will also wake up.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago
Reply to  John

HEAR,HEAR.

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rtaylor
rtaylor
3 years ago

Imagine them getting vaccinated by an unvaccinated nurse last year.

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Eric Olthwaite
Eric Olthwaite
3 years ago

I despise mask wearers – I used to pity them but now I just can’t stand the sight of them.

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dante
dante
3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Olthwaite

I walk by masklets and think how utterly moronic they must be, completely incapable of individual thought or cognisance on the issue.

When I see men wearing them I think what an absolute drip!

When I see teenagers wearing them, I think how very sad.

And when I see children wearing them I get visibly irritated.

I still find it incomprehensible how anyone would willingly wear one.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago
Reply to  dante

The brainwashed would willingly do anything they are told to do.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  dante

Well as far as Lord Bill of the Gates of Hell is concerned in response to the mask question at the Munich Security Conference 2022:

“We have to wear pants.”

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Olthwaite

Agreed Eric, most of em look like they are about to “peg out” at any moment.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Olthwaite

They need a punch in the mask!

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NonCompliant
NonCompliant
3 years ago

I take the jabbed as they come. As yet I’ve not had any fall outs or arguments but I really struggle to empathise with their decision given no one had to put a gun to their head. They took the easy way out with exception for the old and infirm who were scared out of their wits!

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A Y M
A Y M
3 years ago

True. I don’t dislike vaccinated people. I just feel sorry for them.
I’m trying to enjoy their company while they’re still around.

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Paul B
Paul B
3 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

I’m struggling to even consider a relationship with and/or giving birth to a child of mine, any jabbed, it has fundamentally cause a shift in my idea of suitable partners, I struggled in the main pool, now I’m screwed, well not litteraly lol…

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A Y M
A Y M
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

If you don’t agree on this with your partner, you’re screwed.
I see a lot of women at the various meet-ups for the awake, like 3rd Wednesday groups. Many of them are there without there significant others because they are jabbed and with the program.
I doubt many will be able to stay in those relationships much longer. So there will probably be a growing pool of newly single ladies if you know where to look.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

Interesting times ahead for the unjabbed.

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Gregoryno6
Gregoryno6
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

If only I’d saved it all these years! I’m sure I could have got used to carting them around in a wheelbarrow like Buster Gonad.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Ha ha! Oh god.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago

Well, that’s what happens when you get scammed. You end up resenting those that didn’t fell for it because every time you see them they remind you that they are smarter than you. The people that didn’t fell for it, however, don’t resent you. They just feel sorry for you for a bit and that’s it.

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GlassHalfFull
GlassHalfFull
3 years ago

As a 66 year old unjabbed I don’t look down at the jabbed I just pity their life choices and worry for their future health.

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Paul B
Paul B
3 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

If less people went along for trivial reasons, my own family included, who just want to do normal stuff, then we wouldn’t be in this mess to begin with.

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Fraser Nelsons Underpants
Fraser Nelsons Underpants
3 years ago

Partly resentment, I would guess. At the back of their minds there must be some variation of “it’s not fair.” I would also guess that those seeking social approval feel social disapproval more keenly.

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Mr Taxpayer
Mr Taxpayer
3 years ago

Each to their own; however those that have presented their children for jabbing are child abusers IMHO.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago

4th ‘vaccine’ to be ‘rolled out’ in the UK this Spring.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago

I’m a thrice jabbed 73 year old but I certainly don’t look down on the unjabbed.
Any society that makes vaccination compulsory is not a FREE society.
PS: They can stick their 4th jab where the sun don’t shine, enough is enough.

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unmaskthetruth
unmaskthetruth
3 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

Fingers crossed.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago
Reply to  unmaskthetruth

And toes!
Actually I don’t think that the vaccine does you any harm but after 3 jabs neither do I think that they do any good either.

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sunjor
sunjor
3 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

I’m unjabbed but sort of agree with you, for the vulnerable age group any long term effects aren’t likely to be a problem but anyone under 50 needs to really think before subjecting themselves and no way should it be given to children.

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Star
Star
3 years ago

I’m unvaccinated and I believe the best single adjective to describe the spiked is “gullible”. Most of them don’t know the difference between a virus and an illness, are too lazy to find out, and if you told them either they wouldn’t believe you or else the info would go into one ear and straight out of the other, because for many the last time they thought for themselves was before they went to kindergarten. They are walking proof that some of the big names who have written about crowd psychology, behavioural conditioning, propaganda, persuasion, and compliance have actually known what they’re talking about. As far as most of the spiked are concerned I feel a lot of pity, but yes it shades into anger when I remember the effect these b***ards’ gullibility, stupidity, and laziness have had on the living conditions of the rest of us, which is to say the human beings among us. These fools’ gullibility makes them extremely antisocial.

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago

Jamal Edwards’ friends are claiming he died of a heart attack (not exactly something I would describe as “a sudden illness”).

You have to wonder, if his friends have had their jabs, will they be feeling paranoid about their own outlook? If they’re anything like my moronic family, they’ll feel resentment against those who haven’t been jabbed and will still hurry to get their 4th jab.

They’ve completely ignored my attempts to invite them to look at the dangers the jab poses to my 8 yr old nephew who’ve they’ve arranged to be jabbed tomorrow.

TPTB are successfully destroying friendships, families, lives and livelihoods. So-called freedom day 2.0 eh? What a joke.

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JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Point them in the direction of the twitter address “they say its rare”. Real life accounts simply picked up and tweeted to the address. There are stories of children your nephew’s age being harmed by the vaxx.
Today has some pictures of a child who had a terrible skin reaction (not just some red spots).

My apologies if you were already familiar with it and tried to get them to look at it. I don’t understand how anyone could look at the stories there and not at least take a step back and reconsider.

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Watney
Watney
3 years ago

Whisper this, but you’re still counted as Fully Vaccinated in the UK with only two jabs.
This makes the UK a bit of an outlier.
Given the modest (66%) take up of the booster (I mean third dose) I wonder how long before the double jabbed become Unvaccinated here as they are in the EU after 270 days which, given the early UK start, would soon be many UK citizens?
Would that wake a few more up?
Perhaps not.
Will Mr Toad have to, regrettably, change that?

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago

Had to laugh at the number of commentators here replication the same sort of dumb generalisations that the researchers uncovered! A lot of ‘sceptics’ seem to have the same sort of herd-driven virtue-seeking antagonisms 🙂

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I think it’s an interesting and important topic. What’s your take on it?

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I guess I just notice similar virtue-signalling ‘other-hate’ driving the most gullible on both sides – fuelled by propaganda that promotes an effective ‘divide-and-rule’ campaign.

There is a mutual lack of real political understanding and motivations as straw men and hobby-horses are wheeled out as a substitute for thought – a circular process. I have no quick solution to this assault on civilised democratic norms – but I can make a distinction between people behaving stupidly and people as being inherently stupid.

I claim nothing other than a wide circle of friends and acquaintances that contains people who, far from being evil morons, are individuals with a multitude of virtues, but who have, in this instance, been conned by a psychological campaign unprecedented in my lifetime.

At times, I, too, despair and resent the fact that my last days as one of the immediate post-war generation, will be spent in the shadow of the ‘Great Reversal’, with two years already chucked on the rubbish heap of global power and capital.

The pessimism is increased when I note a lessening of thoughtful comments here in proportion to those that are simply frustrated self-absorbed rants. A signal of defeat?

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kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

There is more information posted on the daily update section (red bar on the right) It is hard to sustain a coherent discussion on these threads.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

The reddit group is better for that, at least I find it is, because you get notifications if someone posts on the thread you’re watching and they never get wiped.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

The comments are of variable quality, I agree. I don’t think there’s anything much to be gained by hurling abuse at the vaccinated – while some of the abuse may be justified (for example I find it hard to have much restraint in the face of people who advocate mandatory vaccination) it would be generally counterproductive.

But I do think that the mass vaccination campaign and all the things around it needs to be debated and anyone who happily shows a vaxx pass to allow them to do things that used to be considered normal life needs to be aware of the part they are playing in a despicable business. I don’t think we can simply move on and write it off as a personal, private decision without looking at the wider context.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

The part people who show a vaxx pass will usually be playing is that of someone who tries to keep his life intact as much as possible in face of a tyrannic government riding roughshod over people opposing its policies. That’s obviously not the stuff heroes are made off but most people simply aren’t, more so when standing on their own. Chastizing them for that is similar to chastizing the tide: It’ll keep coming and going regardless of that.

It’s important to make it easy for ordinary people to switch sides. After this has happened, one can – carefully and slowly – try to teach them a few new things. Starting out with YOU SHOULDN’T EVER HAVE DONE THIS !!1 won’t accomplish that. Ideally, at some point, they’ll self-reflectively come to the conclusion that they really shouldn’t have done this. But realistically, most will – at best – be glad that it’s over (and do the same thing again next time).

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

I would not consider myself a hero – the consequences for me of not getting vaxxed were/are minimal. Others who came under greater pressure merit respect and gratitude. I don’t know if I would “chastise” people but I think it’s right to debate with people how tyranny begins and continues. I really don’t want to sound like I am getting on any sort of high horse, but I think we can’t just pretend it didn’t happen.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I would add that in England at least the “sacrifices” most needed to make to not get vaxxed were pretty minimal. Hardly like fighting back against Stalin or Hitler.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

If someone kills you, all your troubles are over. In contrast to this, social exclusion (I haven’t yet dared to ask if I can again go out without showing a vaxx pass) is an eternal, low-volume torment. Due to COVID, all of my non-work life has been terminated and replaced with solitary, nightly walks and I’m positively feeling a little like Lovecraft’s outsider by now.

I’ve gotten some bits back, some were again removed from me, and I can’t compare that to times I have no experience with it but I’m not going to think higher of the people responsible for this because they could have been more nasty.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

In Australia, there are unvaxxed who have lost jobs and struggle to get another. They are paying a very high price, and they are paying it in an atmosphere of relentless isolation and threats.
Those who demonstrated in Canberra were subjected to chemical spraying. In the Northern Territory, people have been interned in camps – for as little as failing to tell the truth about a test result.
There is hatred brewing here.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I’m thinking of two people/ groups of people here:

My mother. She’s a triple-vaxxed, soon to be quadruple-vaxxed retired teacher of 83 years. She positively doesn’t want to get a COVID jab again and is really annoyed by having to show her Impfpaß (vaccination passport) in order to go to the barber or to be allowed to attend church services. But she has to get the 4th shot, otherwise, they’ll cut her off from all social activities she’s attending to.

Reading revellers. For most parts, these seem to be a pretty brainless crowd much more in love with alcohol (and cocaine) than any sane person should be. Essentially, they had the same problem: Get vaxxed or your social ends live now.

I’m seriously pissed off that someone is doing this to my mother and while she’s intelligent enough to understand the point behind this (if explained in suitable terms), that someone is to blame. She isn’t.

In the latter case, one can as well attempt to discuss the issue with a brick wall. Probably better, because the brick wall will at least not simply become aggressive or go elsewhere.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

^^ social live ends now

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I am torn between feeling a degree pity for those who have been duped by this scam and detesting them because it is their compliance, their willingness to outsource their thinking and their blind order-following that have us in the mess we are in, potentially dragging the rest of humanity into a very dark period. The only jabbed I don’t hold any animosity towards are those who were forced into an unwanted medical procedure in order to be able to continue to have some semblance of a livelihood.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago

I feel intellectually and spiritually superior to the vaxxed, if I’m honest.

They didn’t look at the data, or they succumbed to irrational fear of infection, or they gave up any principles they might have had for a holiday/not wanting to find another job.

There are always other jobs.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Haven’t wanted to say it for fear of sounding arrogant but so do I. Of course they feel intellectually and morally superior to us. A very dangerous scenario, where humans are concerned…..

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Do you really?
I don’t feel intellectually and morally superior, and I don’t believe “they” do either (well, some might).
I think I’ve been lucky. My parents taught me to think independently and prized bravery over obedience. That doesn’t make me superior to anybody.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Yeah it’s hard not to. I don’t think it’s fair or useful or right to feel like that; but when you’ve been criticised, gaslighted and discriminated against for two years it does become a bit tribal! Again, this is not good and in many ways I think it’s playing into the hands of the people behind this diabolical business.. superior is never a good word, but I do prefer the people whose instincts, independence and mental strength caused them to reject. I like those people much more..

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I do prefer the people whose instincts, independence and mental strength caused them to reject. I like those people much more..

Yes, so do I – I certainly prefer their company! There’s a special bond and warmth, because they are allies in a time of great need.

As for the others – I use disgusting words and curse them. “Damn you to Hell!” is a favourite – said through clenched teeth, with the doors and windows safely closed.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

There are always other jobs.

Actually – that’s not necessarily true. Not in some countries; not for people with families and family responsibilities.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

Not “worth in reading in full” ( nothing in the Mail is).

As for those ‘negative views’ not being held by the unvaccinated, perhaps it is because they feel pity and human compassion for what they see might be slowly progressing in the totally brainwashed multi-jabbed?

It is ‘not good’ to have a destroyed immune system and suffer from VAIDS for the rest of your life (be it long or short).

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago

Someone mentioned blood transfusions. What will happen when an unvaccinated person receives blood from from a vaccinated donor and visa versa? Will hospitals accept blood from a vaccinated person?
Will this be yet another lucky dip? (Vaccinated used in the loosest possible sense)

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

I think I know the answer, it’s going to be another almighty shambles!

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

Will it end up like HIV, where they start screening for it in donated blood, but way too late?

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Screening for what though?

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

Whatever is in the clotshots (which still seems unclear!)

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Unclear or secret.

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kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Covid-19 Injection Contents: Dr. Robert Verkerk Summarizes EbMCsquared CiC Study Preliminary Findings

https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/multimedia/covid-19-vaccines-contents-prelim-summary-rob-verkerk/

Ebmcsquared has commissioned an independent laboratory to run an investigation into the
contents of a number of Covid-19 vaccines.
The investigation was prompted by reports and concerns from scientists around the world that suggested that vials of Covid-19 vaccines may be contaminated with items which are not on the declared list of components.
A report will be made available in due course.

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Probably, until some vaccinated individual complains that having their blood donation screened for spike proteins somehow violates their civil rights.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

This is surely a very big issue – which no-one has addressed. This threatens the ‘bodily integrity’ and free choice of the un-vaxxed by introducing synthetic Covid spike proteins into their bloodstream.

Reports on blood disorders in the vaccinated, caused by the vaccines, with magnified images of alarming blood samples, taken from vaccinated people make shocking reading .

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

That’s what I was thinking. One of my daughter’s has been vaccinated twice but declined the booster. It’s going to be a big question for everyone, whether vaccinated or unvaccinated.

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ebygum
ebygum
3 years ago

I can only imagine that the fact that the unvaccinated don’t despise the vaccinated in the same way, will just infuriate them more!
How dare they defy the Government and the rules? How dare they go around spreading ‘it’ to them, then finding out that’s a load of bull and they were right all along? How dare they laugh at people getting third and fourth vaccinations…even though we think it’s getting nuts….
How dare they have the temerity not to die….!!!???

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Mr10Percent
Mr10Percent
3 years ago

Slightly off-topic, but I wonder if there is an truth or not to this tweet indicating QE2 is on a restricted drug to fight a covid infection?

https://twitter.com/JoostBroekers/status/1495739818407518208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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iane
iane
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr10Percent

Not surprising if true – and the only reason I would hope it works is to keep Charlie-Boy off the throne for as long as possible.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr10Percent

I have heard ‘Ivermectin’ mentioned in small amounts in combo with others.

Ivermectin – denied to the British people by Hancock, Johnson, Whitty and Javid.

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr10Percent

Have you not asked yourself how ironic it is that the queen would catch the Corona virus on the year of jubilee?

Definition of ‘Corona’:

ANATOMY a part of the body resembling or likened to a crown.

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Eric Olthwaite
Eric Olthwaite
3 years ago

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Olthwaite

But her “umbrella” doubles/trebles her risk of getting rained on

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thinkcriticall
thinkcriticall
3 years ago

It was an intelligence test and we have pity for those who failed it.

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maggie may
maggie may
3 years ago

Interesting paper referred to on Steve Kirsch’s substack a couple of days ago which came to the conclusion that no one, even the over 80s had anything to gain from the ‘vaccine’ and anyone under 80 was more likely to die from the ‘vaxx’ than Covid itself. I assume it’s already been posted on here but can give the link if anyone wants to see it.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

Seems about right and fits in with what can be gleaned from a casual glance at all the evidence.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

I read Kirsch’s substack on an almost daily basis and have watched many long interviews he has aired. You can’t say he hasn’t done his research or doesn’t know the material. He’s somewhat famous for challenging any of the authorized “experts” and “authorities” to a debate. I think he is even offering $1 million of his own money if the right people accept his offer. None have … which makes his point that real debate of the alleged “science” is off limits.

Kirsch has also done an excellent job of highlighting alternative media news bits that SHOULD be big mainstream stories. For example, he’s recently highlighted the work of former BlackRock manager Ed Dowd (showing the spike in all cause deaths as reported by now five life insurance companies). He also had a fascinating interview with an embalmer from my state (Alabama) who reports a huge increase in blood clots among people he has embalmed. Thirdly, he believes the military’s VAERS system shows a tremendous spike in adverse events among military personnel who have been vaccinated.

Besides The Daily Skeptic, these “substack” sites – operated by independent journalists or even “citizen journalists” – have become about the only place to get real journalism and/or contrarian commentary.

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Margaret
Margaret
3 years ago

OH and I see ourselves as part of a control group, something necessary for every experiment. Since Pfizer soon eliminated its control group by jabbing it, we “volunteered” in its place. The only people who are “at risk” from “not being jabbed” would appear to be those of us in the control group, that is, if you believe that the jabs would protect us from serious illness and death in the first place. The jabbed should be thanking us for being willing to take such a risk for the benefit of scientific research.

By the way our list of double and triple vaxxed, personally known to us, who have tested positive for Covid, has now reached twenty.

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The old bat
The old bat
3 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

All the more reason to get rid of testing. These people known to you have tested positive, but knowing how unreliable the tests are, are they actually ill with covid? I have no doubt that if I tested myself as regularly as some people seem to do, I would have thrown up a few positives, but I have never taken any kind of covid test, so I remain ignorant and untroubled as to whether I am ‘ill’ on any given day. If I had a pound for every person who told me they have ‘got covid’ because they’ve produced a positive test (despite feeling and appearing fit and well), I would be a rich person.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

Tests: 97% ‘false positives’ for any test done at 30 cycles of amplification and above ( 30-45 standard in the NHS).

Hence fake pamdemic.

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago

Difference between the two groups is that the ‘vaccinated’ have an irrational hatred of the ‘unvaccinated’.

That’s because they have an irrational fear of the renamed common cold and flu. They’re experiencing group psychosis.

I pity them and occasionally hate them too. I hate them for being so damn pathetic and weak-minded. For allowing their fear to tip over and affect everyone else around them – because the government, the MSM and the “scientists” told them to hate us.

Nothing is more pathetic than supporting your child/grandchild being injected in a bid to protect yourself, especially when no one knows the long term effects of the injection.

(except the manufacturers of course).

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iane
iane
3 years ago

Hmm, I must be the exception: I despise the sheeple who have mindlessly accepted the brainwashing – with only those excepted who have been more or less forced to accept or have their lives destroyed (which may, of course, happen anyway to the jabbees!).

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

Most of the people who have had a Covid vaccine are Guardian readers, BBC viewers and disciples of the woke trash that saturates Twitter and Facebook. These purveyors of media feed to their readers, followers and viewers what their boss, Klaus Schwab, instructs them to.
 
The Simpsons’ meme is a very good representation of what Klaus Schwab thinks of ordinary people. And it’s become very important to know what Schwab thinks of us ordinary folk, because today he and his World Economic Forum actually govern (in partnership with China) the Western world.
 
Klaus Schwab at Harvard’s John F. Kennedy School of Government in 2017:
Klaus Schwab brags:

“When I mention our names like Mrs Merkel, even Vladimir Putin and so on, they all have been young global leaders of the World Economic Forum. But, um, what we are really proud of now, is the young generation like Prime Minister Trudeau, president of France, ah, Argentina and so on. So, if you penetrate the cabinet … so, yesterday I was at a reception for Prime Minister Trudeau and I would know that half of this cabinet, or even more than half of this cabinet, are for our, actually young global leaders of the World Economic Forum”.

 
This link is to a video of him saying this.
 
Schwab has openly bragged that he controls over half the government in Canada. So, as you can see, it wasn’t the democratic process in Canada that voted for the Emergencies Act to be invoked – which gives the thuggish halfwit Trudeau absolute totalitarian powers – it was Klaus Schwab.
 
So, if the “vaccine” takers and promoters are happy with Klaus Schwab and also happy to vote into power his sociopathic poodles like Justin Trudeau, it only follows that when they get made ill by toxic experimental gene therapies, they’d want others to also suffer.
 
A big psychological driver of “socialists” is they haven’t the wit, work ethic, or intelligence to make for themselves a comfortable life, or gain the amount of wealth they believe they are entitled to.
 
These people promote communism because it forces the people with the wit to gain wealth to share it evenly with them. Communism is win-win for these people, because if the country as a whole goes broke, then everyone is equally penurious. With all people equally on the breadline, the lazy and unintelligent socialists don’t feel the odd ones out – as they do in capitalist societies.   
 
The same psychological factors, I suspect, drive at least some of the “vaccinated” that resent the unvaccinated. There’s no doubt that many of the “vaccinated” have seen reports about the gene therapies causing deaths and injuries. And out of spite and vindictiveness, they’d like the antivaxxers to also be put at risk of being toxified.
 
Far Left socialists are often known as the Resentful Ones. Perhaps Spiteful Ones would be a better term for them?

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Very useful post with quotation and link to the video which I have seen – more need to see it.

But hey! BBC Panorama will be onto this any day now surely …..oh wait……oh dear. C4 News then …ah yes but…then perhaps not ,even without Snow- but there is always ITV News…well. forget it …… surely Globalist Comcast SKY will not let us down ..again….will it ?

GBNews then! A glimmer of hope ….Mark Steyn please stand up! ( but then Ofcom Is watching!)

AV Media and Press censorship on this scale in the UK takes us back to just after the Napoleonic Wars – a time when forcing dangerous ‘vaccines’ onto unwilling, suspicious adults and their children wit punishment for refusal was standard practice!

( See “Dissolving IIlusions – Disease, Vaccines and the Forgotten History” Suzanne Humphries MD and Roman Bystrianyk)!

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

A few friends and I did an amateurish type of research across conservative social media sites, such as, Bitchute, Rumble, et al.

We found that the conservative users on these sites simply wouldn’t interact with or share videos or posts such as that one about Schwab.

(If I was on Gab or Bitchute and I came across an interesting video like that one about Schwab, I’d share it, or a link to it, on my timeline. I’d simply like as many people as possible to see what type of a gloating sociopath that Schwab actually is.)

But worse than this, they’d share links to the Guardian and BBC and such like. They would, though, insert insulting comments when sharing links to these sites, but, nonetheless, they were directing clicks to these sites – clicks which would give the Guardian and other Left sites better advertising revenue.

We’ve also seen another weird phenomenon on some conservative news sites with comments sections.

Say you happenchance upon a conservative site you’ve never visited before. You read the article you happened upon and if you wanted to see what type of readership this site had, you might check out the article’s comment thread.

People visiting a news site for the first time are apt to judge it by its readers. The best way to estimate a news sites’ readers would be to check the comments thread, especially the most popular comments.

But what we found on two well known conservative news sites was that it was mostly the worst, most badly written comments that got the most votes. I still wonder if hordes of Lefty trolls make it a habit to visit these sites and purposefully vote up the worst comment, just to make the readership look stupid. But this doesn’t add up because the good comments didn’t have an excess of downvotes – you’d imagine the trolls would also excessively downvote the good comments to make the readership look even more stupid.

Or they could be shill news sites, or shills managing their comment’s section. Or, if none of these, it then has to be not very bright readers. 

It does make a difference: In the US, Lefty teachers are known to search out conservative news articles with badly written comments. These teachers then use this to indoctrinate their classes into believing conservatives are exceptionally dumb and best avoided.

And this indoctrination works when the teachers can bring up article after article on a conservative news site and show that the most popular comments on them have been consistently and obviously written by idiots.

Perhaps ordinary conservatives could act more in coordination with each other. They don’t seem to generally do what’s best for the group as a whole.

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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

I wonder if Boris has been on a course?
I bet his latest wife is a graduate and Rishi pay day lender Sunak certainly is.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

Yes, I’m quite sure Boris was a WEF young global leader, and am certain that Blair was one.
 
Look at Boris, he’s an actor, and a two-bit actor at that. Did you know that he spends a lot of money (or rather the taxpayer does) to have that dishevelled look? It’s been reported that he spends £600 per week flying in a hairdresser from Paris to style his hair.
 
If it wasn’t for Klaus Schwab and the WEF, twats like Boris and Blair would have never got their foot in through the political door.

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

His wife is apparently ‘Rothschild Royalty’.

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Gregoryno6
Gregoryno6
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

That’s one yappy little beatch you’ve got there, Herr Schwab.

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Watney
Watney
3 years ago

The rush to snap up free LFT kits by April 1st tells you all you need to know about the populace! Brainwashed and suckered!
Paid for by the magic money tree but who needs one?
I don’t need a dubious Chinese test to know whether I’m well, or indeed not.
Testing should be for the hospital if you need to go there with double pneumonia.
Asymptomatic spread of The Virus (TM) is a myth or, if not, a blessing.

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago

It’s not so surprising really. It’s not possible really to not have got jabbed and yet be apathetic about it. The publicity and the pressure to conform was relentless, so if you were going to inconvenience yourself by going against the grain, it’s statistically likely that you will have a good reason for having done so.

Mostly, that will mean that a decision was taken after significant research, careful weighing up of evidence.

Far too many of the vaccinated will have seen stuff in the papers, on the TV and just done it.

I must say that I can barely remember the last time I actually trusted the state that much. Maybe never. I gave up trusting scientists uncritically at aged 23. Pretty similar with doctors. It just means I need to be sure of my own decision, my personality type isn’t one of trusting someone like that….

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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

‘Mostly, that will mean that a decision was taken after significant research, careful weighing up of evidence.’

My significant research consisted of being told the safety testing had lasted all of two months and that the manufacturers refused to take resposibility for the results of their work.

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Peter W
Peter W
3 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

And got “rid of” their unvaxed control group once VE started to drop.

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Jon Mors
Jon Mors
3 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

Good comment. I’ll second MrTea though. I did zero research. It was obvious from very early on that this virus wasn’t very deadly to most, and indeed even Whitty himself said as much. By the time the vaccines arrived it was abundantly clear.

As for the whole ‘get vaccinated to protect others’ spiel, that just never made any sense even before we knew how rubbish the vaccines are at preventing transmission.That belief only makes sense in a very limited scenario where the vaccines do not work very well at preventing severe illness and death, but DO work well at preventing transmission. Such a situation would be sort of perverse, as you’d expect a vaccine (or any treatment) to be better at its primary objective than at secondary objectives.

For a time I did think that there might be a case for having care workers vaccinated since younger people respond better to vaccines than the elderly. That argument still hinges on the vaccines being effective at preventing transmission, but we now know that they aren’t.

Anyway, we were told for a very long time that the vaccines were super effective at preventing death and serious illness, so the pressure to get vaccinated never made sense on the basis of the facts provided to us.

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Bella
Bella
3 years ago

I know loads who have been jabbed. None of them give a monkey’s that I haven’t.

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Jon Mors
Jon Mors
3 years ago

Despise is a strong word.

It is only in the last few months that it has become clear that the effectiveness of the vaccines in preventing serious illness and death is doubtful. Hopefully the penny will drop now with the talk of boosters every six months.

All those who were above 60 (say) or younger but purportedly at risk from the virus (e.g. the obese), would have been vaccinated a year ago. At that time I would have said that it was a reasonable thing for them to do.

At the other end we have all the under 18s that have taken it. Whilst no doubt that group includes some future Guardian readers, I nevertheless consider them coerced.

That leaves the group of individuals from ages 18 – 60 that shouldn’t have taken the vaccine at all.

Of those a substantial portion would have lacked the critical thinking skills to assess whether or not they should take the vaccine. I don’t think it makes sense to despise that group any more than one normally would despise the thick.

Another substantial portion will be able to assess the evidence to the extent necessary, but will be intellectually lazy. They may not care particularly whether anybody else have taken it. Not sure why they took it, maybe on a balance of risks basis they judged that they should take it. Peer pressure etc., They may or may not care or be aware of our liberties being stolen.

At the end of the day the only people that I resent more now than I used to are the holier than thou Guardian reading class of people. There are a lot of them in my social and work circles, but they aren’t a huge proportion of the overall population.

The big difference for me is that I will now always view this group as being on the wrong side of this issue. I can stomach their company at work and forced socialising (e.g school parents circle), but they will always be ‘other’ to me and I have no desire to develop friendships with them.

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago

To The Daily Sceptic. A piece on blood transfusions I think would be interesting to both the unvaccinated and vaccinated, (and especially the part vaccinated). I’m certain it will raise more questions than answers.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

I’ll second this motion. Given many people chose not to risk the jabs, the same group would not choose blood from the vaxxed if it was demonstrated to contain something that causes damage.

I wonder if this is being researched.

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mishmash
mishmash
3 years ago

UK interim study using Raman spectroscopy to look specifically for graphene in the vials.

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

They don’t know what’s in it then!

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kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

What do you mean – the analysis was strongly suggestive of graphene being there together with “fluorescence” and other particles.

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

Suggestive. I presume the full list of ingredients are protected. This has ‘potential disaster’ written all over it, from the point of view of blood transfusions.

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kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

The ingredients are undisclosed. Yet they want to inject everyone with it. How is this legal?

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

Hence me asking the daily sceptic to run a piece on it.

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mishmash
mishmash
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

They won’t, and they won’t touch 5G/EMF poisoning either, far too fringe and naughty for the rational, clever sounding sceptics so grounded in reality and truth.
What’s happening to the birds?

Think of the physiological effects of being injected with superconducting graphene that among other things, absorbs EMF radiation. Ambient levels of this shite are obviously at a point where nature is not able to function normally around it, and all these injected people are like walking antennas in a lightning storm.

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kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

Astounding – so there really is graphene in the vax, and other undisclosed ingredients.

Last edited 3 years ago by kate
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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

It’s looking more and more like an attack.

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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago

I think anyone that would allow themselves to be injected with a new gene altering technology created at ‘warp speed’ by an industry with a hideous record for lying and cheating is self evidently thick as pig s##t.
I don’t feel any bitterness or anger towards such people, I do feel pity.

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Peter W
Peter W
3 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

Thank you so much for your pious pity. Life is obviously very simple and black & white for you.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago

Actually with every succeeding jab, I have become more and more sceptical.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago

Covidian Bigotry.

Axiomatic tautology.

Hating those who were right, out of guilt, shame, frenzy, and being fooled by utter nonsense.

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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago

Has anyone else noticed the increasing number of adverts being played on commercial radio where they are telling listeners that cancers and heart problems are far more common than people realise?

I think they are teeing people up for all the post vacccine action they are going to be enjoying, getting the excuses in early.

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

There’s been one on TV that plays out just like typical covid propaganda BS, but it’s warning about young people having heart attacks.

I don’t see or hear anyone joining the dots.

We’re at a point that if the covidians haven’t noticed the giant elephant in the room, they never will.

Young children are now being jabbed, under the premise that it protects the wider community from something they now describe as a mild illness.

There’s no turning back once the children have been injected. The covidians themselves turn from victim to criminals. This is point my pity for them turns to searing anger.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago

Great cartoon at the top of this story. That about sums it up.

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TheJamFan
TheJamFan
3 years ago

I don’t hold any negative emotion for people who have been vaccinated – I feel very sorry for them. I implacably hate those who work to build fear, push the vaccines and hide the evidence.

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Martin Frost
Martin Frost
3 years ago

This is a silly survey since most of the population – poor deluded souls – still believe in the magical properties of lockdown. I was happy to be jabbed because I get myself innoculated for all sorts of things. If people do not want it, that is a matter for them. Part of the time I think that I might have been better off relying on natural immunity for Covid. The treatment of the people who have made this choice is disgraceful. I thought until fairly recently that we lived in a democracy.

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Gregoryno6
Gregoryno6
3 years ago

However, those who have refused the jab do not think less of those who sought protection.
Apologies, but I do.
I could get long-winded here, but this meme covers it pretty well.

You are the research.png
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Susan
Susan
3 years ago

“…those who have refused the jab do not think less of those who have sought protection.”
If they had asked me, I would answer that I felt pity for those who fell for the trick, but also frustration. With a little curiosity and initiative they could have learned that the shots offered no protection, but a very great risk of adverse reaction, and a completely unknown future consequence.

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misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago

I have noticed that people do not now want to admit they have been jabbed. Feeling foolish maybe? I think a whole lot less of them and anger

Last edited 3 years ago by misslawbore
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Mezzo18
Mezzo18
3 years ago

It is bizarre to hold an opinion at all. Whether someone has undergone a particular medical intervention or not is their business. It would never occur to me to ask.
I suspect, in common with my unconventional ideas about many things, this is because I don’t have a television!

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Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago

GMO HUMANS
All the Covid-19 “vaccine” patents mention gene deletion. All the patents except one, mention “complimentary DNA” (cDNA). cDNA is a chimeric mRNA cocktail that’s being coded into Human cells using artificial genetic sequences in cross-species genomics.
According to the US Supreme Court ruling in 2013, altering Humans with cDNA makes them patent eligible. The court documents show that cDNA is made using modified bacterium and Supreme Court judges ruled it patent eligible. This means that a plant, animal or Human, could be patented and owned if first genetically modified with cDNA.
Mark Steele summarized it perfectly by stating:
In the US, the Supreme Court has ruled that vaccinated people worldwide are products, patented goods, according to US law, no longer human. Through a modified DNA or RNA vaccination, the mRNA vaccination, the person ceases to be human and becomes the OWNER of the holder of the modified GEN vaccination patent, because they have their own genome and are no longer “human” (without natural people), but “trans-human”, so a category that does not exist in Human Rights. The quality of a natural person and all related rights are lost. This applies worldwide and patents are subject to US law.
Since 2013, all people vaccinated with GM-modified mRNAs are legally trans-human and legally identified as trans-human and do not enjoy any human or other rights of a state, and this applies worldwide, because GEN-POINT technology patents are under US jurisdiction and law, where they were registered.”
Link here:  https://ambassadorlove.wordpress.com/2021/12/08/covid-19-patent-horrors/

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wantok87
wantok87
3 years ago

The paradox of Woke ideology demanding that we are what we identify as, but yet condemn the unvaccinated because they are not what we are. We know vaccination does not stop infection or transmission but yet we see public and more worrying doctors blaming the unvaccinated. Any doctor who treats an unvaccinated individual in a prejudicial manner should be taken to the GMC.

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Peter W
Peter W
3 years ago

I’ve had 2 jabs, resisting “boosters”, but I have always supported those who choose (probably rightly) not to be vaxed and when they are criticised.
However I have noticed how some unvaxed look down on the vaxed, calling names. It’s all part of the government dividing people. Don’t help that happen, accept people’s personal choices whether you’re vaxed or unvaxxed.

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lyndar
lyndar
3 years ago

I know this to be true. This is one of the saddest things ever. I blame the constant pressure on people, the use of the term ‘antivaxxer’ and also buyers remorse. I’ve actively asked a friend who abused me like this to just respect my views as I do hers. She refused. 

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SashaR
SashaR
3 years ago

Love the picture and actually, I think I spotted this individual on Viva Frei’s interview with the Ottawa counter-protesters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhFuL4aOt_o

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lorrinet
lorrinet
3 years ago

The modern-day left are a nasty, fascist-leaning bunch generally, take the examples of anti-Brexit and climate hysteria, and now covid response. The left is a very narrow-minded, accusatory cult, and if you’re not part of it you are selfish, and have become the enemy.

Thank God I’m hypnosis-resistant – I swear therein lies the difference. My mind can’t be messed with – even when I wish it, as when i tried it to give up smoking.

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JXB
JXB
3 years ago

‘The researchers said: “In the short run, prejudice towards the unvaccinated may complicate pandemic management. In the long run, it may mean that societies leave the pandemic more divided than they entered.”

So pandemic management is going to be a regular feature of our lives?

How about ‘in the long run’ we do what we have always done before, get on with our lives.

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TheBigman
TheBigman
3 years ago

A wise man once said: Its all about freedom, that’s all any of it is about. You want to open a doughnut shop, you want to practice this type or that type of religion…. you can’t do any of it, if you don’t have freedom.

Let us here at lockdown daily sceptic remember these words and never rest in our pursuit of the truth and rest on laurels. The fight will be long but is the only fight worth having. Do not be afraid of what others think of you.
Godspeed.

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ultraskept
ultraskept
3 years ago

There should be a third category;-
a. the willing ‘jabbed’
b. the non-infected ‘unjabbed’ and
c. the Covid and recovered, therefore, not needing the jab.

The vast majority fall into group a – who were totally convinced by the Government’s propaganda and Project Fear.
There is a smaller set of people who remember the wise words of Ronald Reagan and are suspicious of any Government demand without solid proof.
There is an increasingly large group of people who have had Covid and beaten it who do not need the jab. ‘I have got better using my natural immunity. I do not consent to an experimental injection without further trials ensuring my safety.’

I belong to group c, having had all the respiratory problems, plus the clotting and haemorrhaging in my toes. I have refused all jabs. But I do not reject my brother and his 83 year old wife. With the information that they had at the time, this seemed to be their best option.
Unfortunately my brother had a serious heart attack requiring open-heart surgery and his wife is now nearly blind following their double jabs.

I admire most of all the folk in group b – who have carried on working throughout all the panic – the supermarket staff, our boiler man, the window-cleaner, the chap who serviced our burglar alarm – all exposed but using basic ‘common sense’! The ‘modelling’ was so unbelievable that they didn’t believe it! They are the wisest of people!

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TheBigman
TheBigman
3 years ago

1984: 2+2=5

2022: MtF is a F.

They can make the masses accept anything.

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Newman20
Newman20
3 years ago

To my everlasting shame I’ve had one of the ‘clot shots’. I work in a sector where they were mandatory. In addition, I am at an age where obtaining a new job would be difficult and live in an area where there are few employment opportunities in any case. However, I won’t be having any more.

I would, though, consider it a badge of honour to be despised by those numbskulls that have voluntarily had this muck introduced into their bodies.

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ThomasTurk
ThomasTurk
3 years ago

Maybe them injected are having 2nd thoughts, after getting identified graphene, AIDS, parasites,nano-bots and and spike proteins in their un-labelled injections.

Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi, Never More Brilliant, Lays The Utter Truth Out -Autopsies Prove Vax BioWeapon Caused Autoimmune Attacks And Death. (Based on 70 autopsies done by Germany’s top pathologist, Prof. Dr. Arne Burkhardt).

Video: Graphene Oxide: A Toxic Substance in the Vial of the COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine? By Ricardo Delgado and Prof Michel Chossudovsky Global Research, January 19, 2022.

Austrian graphene Research Scientist/Med. Dr. Andreas Noack was MURDERED after he released his evidence of graphene in the 4 mRNA injections, and describing it as ”razor blades in the blood that will kill all who get it”.

Brighteon. Dr. Jane Ruby Show. On today’s episode of the Dr. Jane Ruby Show, Dr. Jane reveals the incredible evidence flowing in on the emerging cancer diagnoses in the jabbed, now overwhelmed by the exploding cancers in the boosted. 2.15.22.

Here in Siam, insane quacks are injecting 5 year old’s.

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