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Excessive DNA Contamination in mRNA Vaccines Presents “Substantial Risk” of Cancer, Say 52 Scientists and Academics

by Rebekah Barnett
27 September 2024 1:45 PM

The Australian Government should immediately suspend the use of Pfizer and Moderna Covid vaccines due to accumulating evidence of high levels of synthetic DNA contamination in the shots, which present a “substantial risk” of genomic integration and long-term health impacts, including cancers, say leading scientists and academics.

In a letter to Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, Russell Broadbent, independent MP for the federal seat of Monash, said that “immediate action through a suspension of these products is critical to mitigate further risk”, after independent testing of Australian vials of modified RNA (mod-RNA) Covid vaccines detected residual synthetic DNA at levels up to 145 above the legal limit.

The letter, circulated to all Australian MPs and Senators, is co-signed by 52 scientists and academics, many at the top of their fields, including Professor of Oncology Angus Dalgleish, Emeritus Professor Wendy Hoy, an expert in chronic disease, Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy, an immunologist who developed a bronchitis vaccine, geneticist Professor Alexandra Henrion Caude and microbiologist Professor Sucharit Bhakdi MD.

An accompanying science summary describes the concerns of Broadbent and co-signatories, who are asking the PM to adopt a “precautionary approach”, with the recommendation that “the Minister for Agriculture initiate a Biosecurity Import Risk Analysis of these products, potentially leading to the suspension of these products due to the risks they pose to human health”.

“Excessive synthetic foreign DNA encapsulated in lipid nanoparticles can integrate into human cells, potentially leading to genomic instability, cancers, immune system disruption and adverse hereditary effects,” explains the summary, which details the results of independent testing of the vaccines to date.

Residual synthetic DNA, a byproduct from the mod-RNA vaccine manufacturing process, is allowed under TGA regulations in levels of up to 10 nanograms (ng) per vaccine dose, a regulatory limit that was set for traditional vaccines and was not amended for mod-RNA products using lipid nanoparticles (LNPs).

The summary goes on to explain why the LNP packaging of residual synthetic DNA makes these products different to traditional vaccines that may contain “naked” residual DNA.

“Crucially, naked DNA has no ability to cross cell membranes and enter cells. In contrast, synthetic DNA encapsulated in LNPs possesses a high transfection efficiency, meaning, the LNP-modDNA complexes are efficient at delivering synthetic DNA into human cells,” the summary states.

The summary cites research indicating that the presence of foreign DNA within the cell alone can induce cancer, but the risk is increased if the DNA enters the cell nucleus. This can occur in dividing cells, and the presence of an SV40 enhancer sequence (in Pfizer only), which is “long known to assist entry into the nucleus, even when cells are not undergoing cell division”, increases the risk further.

Once synthetic DNA is inside the cell nucleus, genomic integration is possible, the summary explains. And, “when genomic integration of foreign DNA occurs at the wrong place within the genome, it frequently induces malignant diseases, cancers, especially leukaemia”.

Genomic integration and cancer formation arising from synthetic DNA contamination are yet to be proven in vivo (in human tissue). However, the summary lists 19 resources from the scientific literature justifying the stated concerns and calls for a full and thorough investigation. Additionally, the summary cites putative evidence of genomic integration of residual synthetic DNA from the Pfizer vaccine in cancer cell lines.

To date, regulators, including the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA), have said that the LNP packaging of residual synthetic DNA is of no significance, that the vaccines are not contaminated with high levels of DNA, and that the vaccine contents cannot enter the cell nucleus or genomically integrate.

Notably, the TGA did not require testing for carcinogenicity or genotoxicity before providing provisional approval and, eventually, full registration for mod-RNA Covid vaccines.

Both above images source: Pfizer Nonclinical Evaluation Report, FOI 2386-6

As regulators maintain that they are unconcerned by the potential risks posed by reported high levels of synthetic DNA in the mod-RNA Covid vaccines, several independent labs are now carrying out testing of human tissue to see if these potential risks are indeed occurring.

The letter in full, below, dated September 25th 2024:

Dear Prime Minister,

I refer to my letter of September 20th 2024 calling on the Government to immediately suspend the use of Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 products due to the evidence of significant synthetic DNA contamination, as detailed in Dr. David Speicher’s report.

Unlike the Thalidomide tragedy, which resulted in over 10,000 victims globally, the COVID-19 vaccines have been administered to more than 20 million Australians, totalling over 63 million doses. The contamination detected in these vaccines, if not addressed, presents a substantial risk, with the potential for these dangers – such as genomic integration and potential long-term health impacts – to multiply with each additional dose administered. Immediate action through a suspension of these products is critical to mitigate further risk.

To assist in adopting a precautionary approach and minimising further harm, I enclose a Science Summary created and endorsed by eminent Australian and international scientists and medical experts. The summary reinforces the known and potential dangers of DNA contamination and highlights the need for an urgent and independent investigation. As advised by the co-signatories, the Department of Health and Aged Care has produced no evidence to demonstrate why the detected DNA contamination will not produce the dire adverse health outcomes detailed in the Science Summary.

Additionally, I have reason to believe that multiple attempts by prominent scientists to warn the TGA of these risks have been disregarded since early 2021, raising serious questions about the agency’s ability to protect the health and well-being of Australians.

Finally, I draw your attention to the Biosecurity Act 2015, which may now be relevant. Given the contamination evidence, I recommend the Minister for Agriculture initiate a Biosecurity Import Risk

Analysis of these products, potentially leading to the suspension of these products due to the risks they pose to human health.

I gratefully acknowledge the assistance of the 52 co-signatories below in the preparation of this letter and reiterate my call seeking your urgent action to ensure the safety of all Australians.

Yours sincerely,

Russell Broadbent MP
Member for Monash

This is the second letter sent to the PM on the contamination issue by Broadbent, who is known for his advocacy for the Covid vaccine injured.

In the previous letter, sent to the PM on September 20th, Broadbent criticised the Department of Health (DOH) and the TGA for “ignoring repeated warnings by experts” over the synthetic DNA contamination, which was first detected by genomics scientist Kevin McKernan in early 2023. McKernan’s findings were subsequently replicated by scientists in Germany, the U.S., Canada and most recently Australia, by Dr. David Speicher.

Broadbent’s office advised that no response to either letter had been received from the office of the Prime Minister, the DOH or the TGA at the time of publication.

Broadbent, who lost his preselection for the Liberal Party (conservative) last year and resigned from the party soon after to become independent, was the only federal MP from a major party to publicly declare that he would not take a Covid vaccine during the rollout.

The MP has since come out as a strong critic of Australia’s No Jab No Pay legislation, which he says “creates new layers of inequity and exclusion” by withholding family and childcare benefits from parents whose children are not vaccinated according to the full childhood schedule.

Broadbent is urging Australians to share the letter, the scientific summary and Dr. Speicher’s report with their federal Member of Parliament.

Related reading:

  • ‘The Covid booster cancer time bomb‘ by Professor Angus Dalgleish, lists four ways Covid shots may cause cancer.
  • For a deep dive into at least five different mechanisms by which DNA-mod-RNA complexes may gain entry to the cell nucleus and cause havoc, this article by Dr. Ah Kahn Syed is recommended.
  • ‘Two new studies suggest mRNA Covid vaccines can contribute to cancer formation‘
  • ‘DNA contamination in Australian mRNA Covid shots up to 145 times regulatory limit, report shows‘
  • ‘DNA contamination in Covid vaccines DOES get into human cells, new evidence shows‘

This article was originally published on Dystopian Down Under, Rebekah Barnett’s Substack newsletter. You can subscribe here.

Tags: AustraliaCancerCOVID-19mRNA vaccinesSafetySide-effectsVaccine

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Arborvitae23
Arborvitae23
3 years ago

Deliberative Practice?
I studied at Aston just after it became a red-brick University. It had practal courses that led into careers to design things, make things and do things.
I guess we don’t need those any more!!
Oh wait, energy, food …….

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DocSeedhouse
DocSeedhouse
3 years ago
Reply to  Arborvitae23

Deliberation is fuindamental to democracy dating back to Ancient Greece: https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/dlcammack/files/daga_10.5.18_ac_sbt.pdf

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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago
Reply to  DocSeedhouse

“Deliberate”:
adjective

  1. Done with or marked by full consciousness of the nature and effects;
  2. intentional.Arising from or marked by careful consideration: synonym:
  3. voluntary.Unhurried and careful.

…i.e. the exact opposite of what the govt did…

  1. No care for consequenses
  2. No consideration for anyone or anything
  3. Panicked, rushed and careless
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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
3 years ago

I believe the disregard of ethics was perfectly understood within government. It’s almost impossible that it wasn’t. Covid laid down the foundations of compliance and ID acceptance, also highlighting the size of any opposition. On those foundations a new economy and society can be built, using war as the tool of implementation. Nothing is accidental or coincidental.

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John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Johnson wouldn’t understand ethics if they hit him in the face. He appears to have none.

However, if there were any MPs with a conscience (like Steve Baker and David Davis obviously have) in the cabinet, they’d have been aware. So would traditional civil servants … but they might have all been swept away now and replaced by highly ‘political’ ones, which started to happen in the Blair era.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  John001

Add in Richard Drax, one of the first to stick his head above the parapet.

I like Sumption’s assessment of Johnson: “intellectually idle”.

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TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
3 years ago
Reply to  John001

Gove was and is the real problem. Johnson saved us from the worst of the tyranny we have seen across Western Europe and rest of the English-speaking world.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenGoblin

Johnson inflicted tyranny on us. I won’t thank a man for merely stamping on my face rather than taking a running kick at it.

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TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Fair.

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

That’s a good description. I’ll use it in future, if I may?

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago
Reply to  John001

I think part of the problem is that so many politicians come from a legal background.

In this profession it isn’t about being correct, merely about winning the argument.

And it is important that this is the case in law, otherwise you couldn’t have lawyers working for the guilty to ensure that they get a fair trial etc.

But it isn’t the case in politics — here it is in all our interests to ensure that we get the best result, not simply that the best lawyer wins.

We could do better to have more scientists (even though ‘science’ is flawed these days), but they do sensible things like say ‘I don’t know’ and ‘I’ve changed my mind because the facts have changed’ — those trained to make legal arguments (rhetoric) tend to make mincemeat out of these individuals, so they never rise in politics.

The main problem is that the public tend to be relatively ignorant of these tricks, and do tend to go with the powerful speech that oozes certainty about what is presented as a simple situation, rather than the thoughtful argument that admits lack of information in a complex situation and perhaps even u-turns on occasion.

So I think we’re stuck with it.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

Rather than ‘scientists, I’d much rather engineers (those with genuine field experience) were involved – they would apply real-world logic to problems. The concepts of zero-covid and zero-carbon wouldn’t last 30 minutes if discussed honestly.

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RDG
RDG
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Engineers are the best …. so often just tell the truth …. so refreshing.
You don’t get any post modern engineers 🙂

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

They need to have a “legal background” in order to either get around the law or simply change it to suit themselves!

“In the “National Interest” and for the Public Good” just about get around any law!

Strange how it sounds so much like something proposed by the NSDAP!

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

With respect, Amanuensis – and I do mean that, there have been enormous numbers of scientists who have behaved disgracefully.

They have bullied, lied, and refused to change their minds in the face of new evidence.

You are one of the honourable few – and you can’t write under your own name.

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Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

Now call me a skeptic, but it seems to me the Covid vaccines are not about the Covid infection at all, or stopping it, they are about putting in the mRNA, Lipids, so the particles go through the Brain, Blood Barrier and Graphene Oxide/Hydroxide particles in your body – the purpose for that has not been explained, or even mentioned.
In the US, the Supreme Court has ruled that vaccinated people world wide are products, patented goods, according to US law, no longer human. Through a modified DNA or RNA vaccination, the mRNA vaccination, the person ceases to be human and becomes the OWNER of the holder of the modified GEN vaccination patent, because they have their own genome and are no longer “human” (without natural people), but “trans-human”, so a category that does not exist in Human Rights. The quality of a natural person and all related rights are lost. This applies worldwide and patents are subject to US law.
Since 2013, all people vaccinated with GM-modified mRNAs are legally trans-human and legally identified as trans-human and do not enjoy any human or other rights of a state, and this applies worldwide, because GEN-POINT technology patents are under US jurisdiction and law, where they were registered.”
See link here: https://ambassadorlove.wordpress.com/2021/12/08/covid-19-patent-horrors/

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Allnamestaken
Allnamestaken
3 years ago
Reply to  Richard Noakes

A link to the Supreme Court or reliable source would be helpful. This website doesn’t even know the differene between complimentary and complementary – which may be a detail but does not instill confidence.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  Allnamestaken

The devil lives in the details

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  John001

Ethics? Johnson thinks that’s a county next to Sussex!

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  John001

“He appears to have none”

That is precisely why he was “chosen”!

Blair’s meeting in New York with Soros started the evil ball rolling!

I think the last two year have shown that it is now totally naive to put any faith in any MP or in our entire political and legal Establishment and system – they have been ‘politically cleansed’ by Davos over the last two decades .

The ‘Fake Opposition’ Labour Party is simply dead.

We have watched open mouthed at the wholesale destruction of the integrity of the BBC and even tolerated the demolition of Gender identity and the propagandised indoctrination of our children with fringe ideologies.

As for the “Law”, If Sumption had not made a few tiny waves before being warned off they would have needed someone else to act as the Token Opposition.

No-one hears what he has to say anyway so they can ignore him.

In the end Tyrants always use guns not ‘laws’ and arguments to get their way.

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
3 years ago
Reply to  John001

Please spell his name right. It is bliar

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Judy Watson

Indeed.

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Spot on, Free Lemming.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Demolition of Western civilisation by a Cabal of Evil Nihilists – look forward to the Zombie movie – except it was all in the ‘Game of Thrones’!

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harrystillgood
harrystillgood
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Have you considered the possibility, that government was unaware of the ethics. That is, the ignorance of ethics was an unconscious activity for them?

There’s so much evidence across history for the collective to be come ‘possessed’ by a kind a demon, and to act with great power, yet oblivious to the consequences.

Are you able and willing to consider this possibility?

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Government isn’t really about ethics. It is about power and control.

Governments act ethically only so far as the governed demand it and make it a condition of allowing themselves to be governed.

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conocido en valenciana
conocido en valenciana
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Spot on.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago

Where were all these sceptics in March 2022?

It’s great that people come round to the realisation of the atrocity that has been committed.

I don’t know where David Seedhouse stood in March 2020 and whether he tried to voice this same opinion then.

However, for anyone who has finally seen the light, the question that they need to ask themselves is how can it be that I allowed this to happen? Did I fail to ask questions? Did I make the mistake of trusting authority? Was I frightened?

As someone who was horrified by the actions of governments from day one, I’m not interested in hearing what a terrible mistake it all was. I want to hear an honest appraisal from those who’ve realised it was a mistake of why they allowed it to happen.

Basically less pontificating and a bit more humility.

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Exactly. Where were all these closet sceptic academics 2 years ago? Hiding under their closeted desks in their PPE? Like their colleagues in central and local government and the NHS.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

Looking forward to its future role, do you mean the NHSS?

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TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Have the core of establishment though? Still seems to be a real risk the enquiry tells us it should have been “harder”, “faster”.

God help us.

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Spritof_GFawkes
Spritof_GFawkes
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

“Where were all these sceptics in March 2022?”
If you look back on this site David Seedhouse has bee authoring sceptical articles since way back

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Spritof_GFawkes

Sorry – Spirit of GFawke. I posted before scrolling down to your comment.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  Spritof_GFawkes

That should be March 2020, not March 2022. My mistake.

In March 2020 I found one person, one, in my entire group of family, friends and acquaintances who thought what was being done was a dangerous, terrible mistake. And I think that is quite representative of how many people in society were against the initial lockdown at the time it was implemented.

The moment to stop it was at the very outset. That was when people should have resisted and claimed it was intolerable. It would have stopped everything else in its tracks because we would have demonstrated that that idiot Neil Ferguson was wrong and that they couldn’t get away with it here.

Maybe David Seedhouse was one of the few who was appalled from the outset. But most of the people today claiming it was a mistake didn’t think so then. I don’t want to see their sanctimonious crap. I want to see a confession: why I shrivelled up in the face of danger and betrayed freedom.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

He did quite a bit of writing for The Conservative Woman. This was the first, as far as I am aware:

Johnson’s scaremonger scientists should be struck off – The Conservative Woman

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DocSeedhouse
DocSeedhouse
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Thank you – you are correct. Here’s some more: https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/author/davidseedhouse/

It doesn’t reeally matter though. What matters is that as many people as possible call it as we see it.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

December 2020? The horses haven’t just bolted by December 2020. They’ve done 20 laps of the course.

As I say, I don’t know what David Seedhouse’s views on the day of the first lockdown were. He might have been as horrified as me.

IF he was anything but that, though, I’d like to read a confession more than a lecture.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I agree.

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DocSeedhouse
DocSeedhouse
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Stewart, I was writing a protest book in March 2020. I finished it in May and it was pubished in September. I have been consistently active since then, even funding a pro-democracy website. Here are relevant links: https://uk.sagepub.com/en-gb/eur/the-case-for-democracy-in-the-covid-19-pandemic/book275656; https://ourdecisiontoo.com/

I asked questions, was angry not frightened and I never trusted these people. How anyone could is beyond me, even given the deliberate fear-mongering.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  DocSeedhouse

Well, that sets me straight then. 🙂

You’ll agree there weren’t many of us at the time. I spent the first weeks frantically trying to rally outrage against what was happening and found there was practically none.

The only place left to go was non-compliance and subversion which hasn’t been a pleasant experience.

I hope your book has done well.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  DocSeedhouse

Thank you. It’s an important reminder of how effectively dissent has been suppressed. We were made to feel alone – voices crying in the wilderness.

In March 2020, I felt I was searching in vain for someone somewhere who would protest. The first person I found was Professor Ioannidis, warning about lockdowns (“A Fiasco in the Making”, March 17).

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conocido en valenciana
conocido en valenciana
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Not a mistake. Planned, deliberate.

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TheGreenAcres
TheGreenAcres
3 years ago

You could apply the same questions to the MSM who are supposed to hold power to account. With a few notable exceptions they have also failed utterly in their duty.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

‘Supposed’ by whom?

There is no law or written Constitution requiring them to – just convention. Freedom of the Press means freedom to print straight lies ( subject to potential v’ expensive court action of course) and propaganda – especially when encourage by money from directly BG and our Government!

Our ‘freedoms’ depend on the assumed good will and moral behaviour of our Government acting under their ” duty of care” in our interests – that has now obviously all ended!

Our “Rights” under Magna Carta and the 1688 ‘Bill of Rights’ cannot be repealed – but they can be circumvented, which is exactly what the new “Bill of Rights” is intended to do!

All you need is a compliant “Supreme Court “- cue Tony Blair!

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Relying on the government’s good will and moral behaviour is futile.

It’s not what it’s for and it certainly isn’t conducive to getting things done.

If we want more freedoms we need to demand less government. It’s that simple.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Byron observed that he liked “the Habeas Corpus (when we’ve got it)”.

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago

“‘Minimising death’ was only one of many possible rationales. “

as would be ‘minimising lost QALYs’ which would have given a different response

good article and great work all round from HART

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John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

It seems that ‘Russian flu’ in 1977 & 78 killed 700,000, mainly children and adults under 25. It probably wiped out more QALYs than COVID-19 did. For each person who sadly died, ~55-60 years of life were lost instead of maybe 3-5.

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago
Reply to  John001

and we are going to get 100,000 extra deaths from missed cancer treatments apparently – 20-30 years each

lockdown would never have been done if there was a cost benefit analysis. The evidence already suggested it was a bad idea. The Lancet, BBC, Guardian et al have been going on about ‘austerity killed 130,000’ for a decade – so they clearly accept that wealth and health are related.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  John001

700,000 died of Russian ‘flu in 1977 / 78? That’s worldwide I presume?

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johnthebridge
johnthebridge
3 years ago

Bit late for all that now, isn’t it?

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago

It’s absolutely not true to say no one reflected on the ethics of it
We were doing that here from the start
We were ignored and marginalised by evil government and other power structures, quite knowingly, and those same evil people manipulated a gullible public into hating us

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hi60
hi60
3 years ago

Here here Dr.

HART are great too by the way.

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago

No question it was deliberate – governments around the world had hundreds of pages of legislation ready to process at the drop of hat. Within weeks Prince Charles and the WEF were telling us it was a once in a lifetime opportunity

https://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/thegreatreset

They suspended autopsy!!!

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

PS Another question might be why it was alright for the Prince of Wales to initiate the Great Reset in the government’s name?

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

Klaus told Bozo it was OK.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

At the risk of repeating myself – the Windsors have got to go. Well past their use by date. And Charlie boy is a Nutjob first class. Problem with nutjobs, they can be dangerous.

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Yes, and actually it is a pity. This is no longer constitutional monarchy.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

They’ve ALL got to go.

It really is us or them.

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
3 years ago

Yet again for the hard of hearing.
It never was/is/nor will be about a virus.

It’s all about how to achieve control – which they can only achieve via digital ID/cashless society, but even the dimmest sheep would normally balk at that.

So, enter the virus, create fear such that the only way to salvation lies with the miracle jab and mandate it for the refuseniks.

The fundamental human rights of the individual are trashed.
The new concept is – For the Greater Good.

And it’s coming our way soon.

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

“For the Greater Good”…

…of the few.

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

To be clear this is the Rockefeller Foundation “lockstep” plan from 2010
https://www.nommeraadio.ee/meedia/pdf/RRS/Rockefeller%20Foundation.pdf
Global Digital ID became UN policy in conjunction with Rockefeller, Microsoft and GAVI in 2016 yet no one was told – a Wiki entry mentioning it was added in 2020
https://www.ageofautism.com/2021/11/id-2020-re-visited.html
Daily Sceptic needs to catch up with certain documented realities. The latest is that we live through week after week of incredibly inept war reporting which does not even mention that the regime we are supposed to be supporting is avowedly Nazi in its full historic meaning. Those that govern us and those report from the legacy media are freaks, clowns and stooges.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

‘Hiding in plain sight.’

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

Bang on.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

In addition, this faux pandemic, enabled the postal-vote fraud in the US election.

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JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Yes, something ignored by most because Trump was so universally hated.

Here in NL they tried electronic voting once and ditched it because of the potential for abuse. We had postal voting in last year’s general election, but only for over-70s – because of the potential for abuse. And that turned out to be a bit of a shambles. There was no postal voting in the recent municipal elections. But they never mentioned in the news here that Trump was challenging exactly those things the Dutch government had deemed open to abuse..

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conocido en valenciana
conocido en valenciana
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

Thank you. This is a succinct summary of the matter.

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago

“ – they would have been able to approach policymaking in a properly balanced and effective manner.”

Oh contraire.

Governmental lock step policy making, across the Western globe, has been highly effective at achieving the goals which were dictated to them.

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Star
Star
3 years ago

“Had they understood ethics – or bothered to ask people who do – they would have been able to approach policymaking in a properly balanced and effective manner.”

🙂 That line is best delivered by a 17-year old at a second division private school, wearing a clown suit.

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JeremyP99
JeremyP99
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

Ha! Johnson and ethics are not nor ever have been, bedfellows.

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

Indeed, but there is insisting on the obvious in a useful way, and there is insisting on the obvious in a “professional expert” way that reinforces the main assumptions of the prestige system and acts against genuine critique which can only tend towards being genuinely total.

Or in fewer words: experts in ethics, my left cr*phole!

Those who pay the “HART” group are well aware of what they are paying for and what they’re getting out of it.

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

However, BJ’s numerous other bedfellows is a completely different ethical issue.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

“Had they understood ethics – or bothered to ask people who do – they would have been able to approach policymaking in a properly balanced and effective manner.”

I think I understand, Star. Everything that happened – the forced confinement, the dismissals, the trashing of lives and livelihoods, the threats, the intimidation, the lies – could have been avoided, if politicians had undertaken an ethics module as part of their induction process.

Well I’m glad that’s sorted.

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7941MHKB
7941MHKB
3 years ago

Ethics may be important – especially when dealing with the likes of Michie, Ferguson, Whitty, Vallance who appear to have none.

But it is far more relevant that decisions on scientific, mathematical, technical, medical problems must NEVER be made by completely incompetent arts grad politicians influenced by so called “Scientific Advisors” who have personal direct financial interests, political motivations and a great enthusiasm for Policy Based Evidence Making.

The very mention of “THE Science” indicates a total absence of understanding, which should merit a long spell of mailbag sewing and quiet contemplation.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  7941MHKB

Exactly, experts merely know more about the doubts and what can be wrong than non experts.

We’ve seen masses of PR but very little expertise from this government in particular.

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Dodgy Geezer
Dodgy Geezer
3 years ago

It seems not to have occurred to the decision-makers that the instant removal of fundamental civil liberties required – and must always require – the most comprehensive ethical justification. 

On the contary.

It yielded up ALL ethical grounds to the lockdown activists immediately. The activists won for the following reasons:

1 – They fielded fake modelling data suggesting that vast numbers of people, perhaps the whole human species, could die if something was not done.

2 – The collapse of STEM training meant that there were no establishment figures capable of understanding the limitations and errors in the modelling.

3 – Any external competent specialists who WERE capable of this and raised their voices were promptly suppressed, smeared and removed from all social media communication.

The ethics of locking down a country and perhaps killing 1m people as a result are acceptable, if the alternative is having 50m people dying. It’s not ethics we need to attack – it’s the lies which made us think there was no alternative. Same thing is going on with energy and climate change as we chat…

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CovidiousAlbion
CovidiousAlbion
3 years ago
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer

“The ethics of locking down a country and perhaps killing 1m people as a result are acceptable, if the alternative is having 50m people dying.”

Yes, but only if that is a God-given certainty.

In the, infinitely more likely, circumstances of there being any doubt that stepping outside his dwelling, and setting about his business, will result in an individual’s almost instantaneous death, the individual must be free to make his own choice about it. Life is an exercise in the taking of risks, and controlling someone’s risks is controlling his life; is controlling him.

We each need to be crystal clear of our own, inalienable, right of autonomy (of both body, and – Susan Michie – mind), and, secondly, to recognise that this right is enjoyed by everyone else, too [1].

It simply is not safe for us to live amongst people who have not, in decent majority, embraced these principles. If we do, then, when some tyrant decides he is going to enslave us all, they are at least as likely to be tricked into assisting in the enforcement of his “greater good” scheme, as to join us in fighting, unto death, for our liberty.

If too few of our population have, even after the harsh lessons of CoViD-1984, failed to appreciate the criticality of universal autonomy, those of us, who demand it, must, collectively, “isolate” themselves from those who do not value and respect it [2].

1. https://ourdecisiontoo.com/Issue/two-rights-don-t-make-us-wrong/342/
2. https://ourdecisiontoo.com/Issue/there-s-nothing-left-to-do-but-go-our-separate-ways/320/

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  CovidiousAlbion

Life is an exercise in the taking of risks, and controlling someone’s risks is controlling his life; is controlling him.

Yes – a thousand times, yes. From the moment we take our first steps, we are at risk of falling over; from the moment we utter our first words, we are at risk of saying the wrong things. We take risks and we learn.

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer

The ethics of locking down a country and perhaps killing 1m people as a result are acceptable, if the alternative is having 50m people dying. It’s not ethics we need to attack – it’s the lies which made us think there was no alternative. Same thing is going on with energy and climate change as we chat…

Are you still about, Dodge Geez? I’d like to go through this with you.

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago

The only way to ensure that it never happens again is to take away the right of Governments, Parliament and ‘experts’ to police themselves.

The Public Enquiry is set up by the Government, so it will not convict the Government. That’s the first rule of Whitehall. It means Civil Servants have Government Ministers by the short and curlies for ever. ‘We covered up for you, so if you don’t do what we tell you forevermore, we’ll spill the beans and destroy you’.

Can anyone ever tell me when a criminal trial has the defendants appoint the judge?

Well, until Public Enquiries have the Head Honcho appointed by people who really hate the Government, the Civil Service, the Medicomafia and the Pharmafia, not to mention billionaire psychopaths, they won’t actually achieve anything.

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago

I’m not well schooled in medical ethics or philosophy. But I do know the difference between right and wrong. And the government reaction to the covid pandemic, if that’s what we are calling it, was wrong. As was their reaction to the sceptical reaction to their reaction. And when you factor in the work of the SAGE, nudge unit and other psyops, it was possibly even evil. Certainly wrong with malicious intent. And these clever university types with time on their hands to reflect and cogitate must have seen that.

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Spooky Bill
Spooky Bill
3 years ago

My only worry is that the government has got away with “it” and they know it. This enquiry will just sweep all evidence under the government rug.

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago
Reply to  Spooky Bill

Yes, and now they know just how easy it is to impose whatever draconian restrictions any time they see fit.

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Star
Star
3 years ago

On-topic: Peter Hebblethwaite, CEO of P&O Ferries, boasted to a joint meeting of two Commons select committees yesterday – transport and business – that he knowingly broke the law when he sacked 800 workers without consultation and that he’d do it again if he was in the same position.

There’s no new information there on how big bosses think. But what is new is that someone boasts about it publicly in Parliament. I’ve see the Maxwell brothers claim immunity. I’ve seen Dominic Cummings defy a Commons committee. I’ve seen Arron Banks treat MPs as if they were dirt and walk out of an evidence session because he wanted to have his lunch. If Banks were an ordinary member of the population who tried that stunt in a courtroom, even a magistrates’ court, he would have been under arrest before he reached the door and sent straight to a cell.

But I’ve never before seen someone say to a parliamentary committee that they knowingly committed a crime and, if they were back in the same position, they’d do it again.

If the Kray twins had given evidence to a Commons committee, they wouldn’t have talked like that. I doubt organised crime bosses such as Tommy Adams or Nicolas van Hoogstraten would either.

An epoch has ended.

There’s going to be more of this. It’s “dog eat dog and screw the law” time.

I thought it was interesting (on a much lower level) how local councils’ trading standards desks are much harder to contact than they used to be. Most of them don’t have a public email address nowadays, and in the event that they do if you write to them to complain about a company you will find that your email gets forwarded to some national advice place dealing with “consumer rights” where doubtless low-paid operatives act on a “click a button to thank the c*** for their input” basis. Basically tradesmen and other small business entities have been given carte blanche to lie and cheat to their hearts’ content, and the authorities won’t do shee-yit.

Last – is there a connection between P&O and the British royal family?

There is between P&O and the royal families of the United Arab Emirates, the state that owns it.
There was between the cruise line Cunard and the British royal family.
And there is between the British royal family and the Makhtoums of Dubai, which is one of the Emirates.

So it’s an interesting question and if the answer is “yes” it would contribute to explaining the attitude of impunity, or at least to why it’s this particular company that has gone first into the “new world”, rather than some other company.

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TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

I at least credit the man for his honesty.

Surely there will be some significant punishment (and law change) to follow.

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

For those who don’t already know the story regarding Cunard: Basil Smallpeice, chairman of the Cunard group which owned the QE2 ocean liner, also had a role in managing the queen’s finances and it was he who confirmed that that ship would be available for the imprisonment of Harold Wilson’s (ex-)cabinet in the event that the okay was given to go ahead with a coup d’état. The government installed by the coup would probably have been led by royal family member Louis Mountbatten.

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

The very same. I’ve only heard about his abuse of older boys and youths and young naval ratings though, not infants.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

Oh, I think we can conclude with a reasonable degree of certainty that if there is a dodgy finance deal going on the Windsors will be tied in in some way.

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

Yes, I wondered, briefly, why he wasn’t met by plod at the committee room door and placed in handcuffs and a choke hold. That’s what happened to people who wanted to breath freely while walking outdoors only a few short months ago.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago

Politics these days seems to be about simplifying the message to such an extent that the nuance of life becomes a white-hat black-hat sort of problem.

They did this very successfully with Covid.

Really we should all say ‘it is complicated’ whenever we see a complex problem, and call out anyone that says that ‘it is simple’ — it never is simple.

But people seem to like simple messages where they don’t have to think but just choose which side to be on — I suppose this isn’t too bad, but it fails when you’ve got government propaganda telling them that they’ll literally kill grannies if they happen to choose the other side.

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

Too true.

Everything in life is simple – until you actually study it.

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JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

This, unfortunately, is the default position for most people on the planet, regardless of intellect or education (and probably always has been). Most people do not want to think, they are intellectually lazy and want things spelled out for them in exactly that manner ‘right – wrong’, ‘black – white’.

Poor victim Ukraine, mean bully Russia. Climate change causing upheaval, blame people (because that can be easily dealt with), not nature (requires admission that some things are beyond control and any solutions would be very difficult). Virus kills people, hide under bed and don’t breath. Accept that viruses kill people and there are some things that we can’t change? Perish the thought.

Bring some nuance to a story (regardless of topic) and people will look at you like you’re a lunatic.

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MikeAustin
MikeAustin
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

We have a tendency to label things rather than scrutinising. As soon as there is a label, analysis stops and dogma is established.
“Simplifying the message” is tantamount to using larger labels. These are more quickly applied and easier for the mentally lazy to run off with a fixed view that diverges from reality in proportion to label size.
There is some feeling of security in fixed views. One can relax without the hassle of having to think too much. People do not seem to be able to relax with “I don’t know”, which would be a more honest approach to the situation.

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Aleajactaest
Aleajactaest
3 years ago

let me fix the first sentence for you:

“One of the most troubling aspects of the Government’s response to the pandemic was its complete disregard for ethics the law.

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TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
3 years ago

Ethics? Even “the science”, correctly applied, wouldn’t have led to lockdowns (or leaky vaccines using experimental technology for that matter).

Panic, fear and mob ignorance overtook everything. The only guard against that happening again would seem to be the benefit of collective experience and wisdom. No ethical guide, law or scientific finding will be enough.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenGoblin

Nope. You are letting them off via the cock-up theory. Everything that happened was pre-planned. Ethics weren’t just disregarded they were deliberately ditched.

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TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Everything the UK can be explained by the fear factor. Policy actually looked sensible until the media decided “herd immunity” was an evil policy (despite actually being the only solution) and the Cabinet panicked there would be people dying in hospital corridors.

Fauci and the American drug industry can’t be let off so lightly. Over here, we had no-one strong and smart enough to stand up to their nonsense.

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Libertarianist
Libertarianist
3 years ago

Professor Seedhouse’s stuff is great. As a nurse who is interested in ethics, his stuff is required reading. HART are great too.

But there are two very major flaws with his analysis; namely the assumption of good faith and the assumption that their aim was actually in preventing death at all.
Their actions can be much more adequately explained by assuming these were very much not their aims at all.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Libertarianist

Nailed it.

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DocSeedhouse
DocSeedhouse
3 years ago
Reply to  Libertarianist

Thanks Libertarianist. I cetainly do doubt their good faith but I have assumed it since it is hard to disprove. What is very clear however is that they ignored ethics entirely – was this just ignorance (they show little sgn of general education) or was it deliberate or did they just not care?

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  DocSeedhouse

I suspect the latter.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago

“Had they understood ethics – or bothered to ask people who do – they would have been able to approach policymaking in a properly balanced and effective manner.”

Most likely not.
Germany has an ethics council, Ethikrat, consisting of many specialists in ethics from the fields of theology, medicine, law etc., advising the government, which became highly prominent and influential during the ‘pandemic’, in particular its two Chairwomen, Profs Woopen and Buyx.
It basically just whitewashed everything the government wanted to do in advance, from lockdowns to masking children to the discrimination of the unvaxxed to the vaccine mandate. Everything.
I now call them a council for justifying any discrimination, torture and genocide etc..
Which is also totally unaware of the trolley problem.

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Woodburner
Woodburner
3 years ago

The damage which started in earnest in March 2020 is going to be a h**l of a job to undo. The mask-fanatics and testaholics will be with us for years. They need their noses rubbed in something really nasty until they see sense.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago

Don’t recall you alongside the likes of Yeadon, Heneghan or even the GBD people, Prof Seedhouse in early 2020 when this sort of thing might have been useful.
Now its ‘safer’ to put your head above the parapet, you and many others are giving us the benefit of your wisdom. Well we were saying these things loudly in march 2020, much good it did.

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago

The above article reads out as a naive normie who has been ‘tango’d’ by an invisible orange Pfeffel.

I would invite the author to cast his mind back to the very start of “The Pandemic” and recall the CCTV videos of Chinese people pretending to drop down dead and carted off by government officials dressed in hazard suits.

We were told by the UK media to believe in these ridiculous videos and that “The Pandemic” was coming our way. Did the author of the above article question for himself if we were being fed propaganda with [bad] actors?

If we can agree the videos were staged, then logically we must question if there really was a pandemic. The onus falls on those who took away our liberties to prove beyond reasonable doubt that there really was a pandemic. Instead, they meddled with data and staged their own propaganda videos using stock footage of busy hospitals.

The criminally ignored admission by Hancock and his mate that they committed mass murder of hospital “bedblockers” after transferring them to care homes and administering life-ending drugs explains the excess deaths which were labelled ‘covid deaths’. These became known as “The First Wave”.

The lies and deception continued ever since.

The giant elephant in the room is the WEF and their Great Reset conspiracy. The UK government have it written into their agenda.

Everything we are witnessing right now is happening by design to bring about the Great Reset.

There was no pandemic and Volodymyr Zelensky is not a freedom fighting John Conner.

Only when people accept this can we realistically fight back against this tyranny.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Nor will they question what the MSM shows them “from” east of Poland and west of Russia…

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Nailed it.

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Chris_uk
Chris_uk
3 years ago

David Icke sums this all up pretty well in his latest video. I hesitate to share it as I find him a bit extreme these days, but on this subject I’m afraid he is absolutely spot on.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris_uk

I’m not a fan, but the 2006 documentary “David Icke: Was He Right” had an eye opening moment where they were filming in public in London and he was bemoaning in general that we were drifting into a police state where things were forbidden unless permitted.

With perfect timing, a couple of Met robots pounced, demanding to know what he was filming, and whether he had a loicence for it.

The warning signs were well in place by then.

Last edited 3 years ago by Rogerborg
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TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

I think he lost most people when he moved onto shape-shifting reptiles.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris_uk

Maybe he’s extreme only in his prescience?

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago

If tyrannosaur vision is based on movement, beancounter vision is based on spreadsheets.

If you can’t put a number on it, they can’t perceive or even conceive of it.

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Garfy1967
Garfy1967
3 years ago

I will never, ever forget. I will never, ever forgive. Those in government know who they are.

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
3 years ago

The Government and its advisors failed woefully to take account of either understanding of ethics.

This somehow reminds me of a recent speech by the wicked Mr Assad of Syria, who says that the actions of the West (us, that is) can be explained by the lack of any principles except what ever it takes for the elite to get money and power.

If we feel rightly aggrieved at the casual disregard of our civil liberties, think what Syrians must feel to see us arming and supplying Al Qaeda to overthrow the regime, having overthrown Saddam Hussein’s regimeand destroyed Iraq because we lied that they supported Al Qaeda.

Somehow I don’t think they can be shamed into consigning Covid totalitarianism to history.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

Assad looks less “wicked” by the hour!

Just imagine if he has been telling the truth about everything all along? So many dots would instantly form a line!

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

The Government ‘dare’ do anything because it is no longer answerable to the British people, only to the WEF, the WHO and GAVI and all ( yes all!) our MPs are craven jobsworths who rubber stamp the Johnson Tyranny.

Any tricky problems of ” narrative and presentation” can be fixed by another Mass Media Black Propaganda offensive. ( Recent: Ofcom censors warn MSM on contradicting the official on-going ( vax the babies next!) vaccine narrative!)

We are well and truly stuffed and the piece by piece demolition of all our freedoms has only just begun!

Not to worry. The sleepy sheep are still comparing their Covid notes and graphs, grazing on the grassy Covid Knoll looking forward to their £200 ‘loan’ to pay a £3,000 gas bill and blaming Russia ( as directed by the BBC).

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago

[I]t seems that where public health is concerned, policies are routinely drawn up according to a single imperative – ‘we must reduce disease and therefore save lives’ – but of course this imperative itself requires ethical standards and ethical deliberation because, as we have tragically witnessed, trying to save lives in one way risks lives in other ways. 

This illegitimate regime, whether with good intentions or not, committed what we might generously call The Carpet Blunder, where they ostensibly attempted to flatten a minor bubble in society, focusing all attention on this minor bubble (with no consideration/public discussion of the necessary and potential harms which would follow as a direct result of the intervention), while there necessarily emerged a whole raft of major bubbles behind them, immediate, short-term and long-term problems that will affect our society and its people for generations to come.

At worst this was malevolent intent, at best it was unbelievably naive, stupid and callous. Either way, this government has forfeited legitimacy. Nothing it says or does now ought to be taken seriously or adhered to, unless, of course, it resigns en masse.

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Stephanos
Stephanos
3 years ago

From the very beginning of this shameful period of human history I knew that what was proposed was completely and utterly wrong. I opposed the nonsense as much as I could but I was TOTALLY alone. Toby himself can remember the vilification that he received for expressing a view contrary to the prevailing ‘narrative’ and all of us here can bear witness to that.
Joining this site and the other place on reddit has been a real lifeline, and I expect that Toby has found it to be a real help to himself.
But although ALL of the institutions of this country have been found to be wanting, my greatest and fiercest criticism is for the Church. At a time when spiritual assistance was most needed the church in the shape of the church leaders like Welby and Cottrell provided NO criticism of these unnecessary, cruel and satanic regulations. Not one solitary thing. Ordinary church members were obliged by diocesan jobsworths (I am speaking here of the CofE, but this criticism applies to ALL denominations) to complete reams and reams of ‘Risk Assessments’ and engage in other ridiculous and harmful practices, like wearing those disgusting face-nappies and observing anti-social distancing. And a very large number of Christians were obliged, through the ruthless use of emotional blackmail, to follow these utterly bone-headed notions. The legacy of these harmful policies is STILL with us. One still often sees Welby and his crew wearing the damned things (and note, ye moderators, that this word is used in a purely adjectival sense, NOT as a swear word) in ecclesiastical settings.
As this article shows very clearly, ethical considerations were thrown out of the window without any thought and the Church has been deeply complicit in this sin, for sin it most certainly is.
I want to see an explicit acknowledgement from Welby and his bench of bishops of their heinous crime in failing to give a prophetic voice to the Government, the People and the Press. Dereliction of Duty does not begin to describe their failings. Will I see it? I beg leave to doubt that I will.

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

I agree with the thrust of what you are saying. However being a non believer, at least in the spiritual aspects of organised religion, my unreserved and lifelong (what remains of it) contempt, as a taxpayer, is reserved (if you exclude central and local government and the police) for the NHS. When the country most needed them they were absent without leave. Barricaded behind locked doors, wearing PPE and drawing full pay.

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Stephanos
Stephanos
3 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

Thank you. I agree with what you say. When composing posts like this there is SO MUCH about which to complain that necessarily many things are omitted.

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

Well said, brother.

At a time when spiritual assistance was most needed the church in the shape of the church leaders like Welby and Cottrell provided NO criticism of these unnecessary, cruel and satanic regulations.

I would add that these regulations have been entirely unlawful according to God’s law. Government stepped outside of its sphere of authority and into the family and church spheres of authority (Rom. 13; 1 Pet. 2; Eph. 5:22-6:4; Heb. 10).

And on church leaders, whose failings you note well, they will have to stand before the thrice holy God and answer for their actions. They neglelected their flocks and utterly surrendered to unlawful Government decrees. They abandoned God’s people when they are primarily called to care for souls, not ‘bodies subject to potential respiratory illness’ (Heb. 13:17; 1 Cor. 12:12-27). One takes no pleasure in saying one would not want to be in their position. Indeed, one trembles at the thought.

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Stephanos
Stephanos
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

Thank you, Moderate Radical, a curious name if I may be permitted to observe.
Anyway, when penning or rather typing these fulminations against church leaders I sometime wonder if I have been extreme. Then I receive posts like your and realise that (a) I am not alone and (b) I think I have hit the target, or somewhere near.
I think the only answer is repentance; I must start with myself but it seems that the only way forward is to initiate nationwide repentance.
How that is to be achieved I do not know. We have a corrupt and tyrannical government whose only interest is to look after itself, we have a corrupt church (all denominations are the same) which is not interested in saving souls or preaching the good news, we have a corrupt and adulterous people addicted to divorce and other things, and we have a corrupt press which is not interested in uncovering the truth.
In all of these there are individuals who have not bowed down to Baal, like the 7,000.
Κύριε, ἐλέησον.

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

Well put, my friend.

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myrtle
myrtle
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

It won’t happen – just try a little search for ‘Welby ‘ and ‘WEF’

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harrystillgood
harrystillgood
3 years ago

I hear clearly what the author/s are saying on this. It looks evil. Much like taxation.(stealing private property while failing to collect unearned incomes)

But we are dealing with facts. And emotion (or more accurately the psyche) is what leads the whole thing.

So to keep banging on with fact bombs is a neurosis – we must realise by now that facts are not important to this kind of power.

Is it time to devote our energy to looking into the psychic pandemic, which intensifies with each new strain (bremoan, trump delusion syndrome, cv19, and now the Ukraine)?

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charleyfarley
charleyfarley
3 years ago

Ethics never came into it.

All the government (or “Regional Committee” as they should be known) was required to do was implement the instructions of the WEF.

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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago

You can stick your ethics up your brown hole, the Tories had looting to do.
Emergency legislation meant contracts could be punted out with zero scrutiny so the Tories chums got oodles of gravy, even more than normal, and in return the Tories get their cut when the time is right.
So I don’t know where you got this idea about ethics, ethics doesn’t slip cash into the Tories pocket so ethics doesn’t exist.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

True, but left wing governments worldwide (eg, Australia, NZ, Canada and USA) did exactly the same thing!

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago

https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/an-unethical-proposal-from-an-ethicist?s=r
Here is what you can expect from our current lot of so called ethicists even if you had and listened to them, see also my previous comment.
THIS is their ethics and mindset now. In Germany, they already had some clinics announce that they would refrain from treating Russians.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago

https://lauradodsworth.substack.com/p/we-need-to-talk-about-behavioural?s=r
You can’t expect ethical policies from politicians and people who use and agree with using nudging. Least of all if and from a medical, ethicist and psychogical profession who fully agree with it too.

Last edited 3 years ago by JayBee
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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago

The trolls are all missing – wonderful! Have they been given the day off after all their ‘hard work’ this week?

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Star
Star
3 years ago

Boris Johnson has called on P&O Ferries chief executive Peter Hebblethwaite to resign. Although we should welcome this action by Johnson, we should also realise that like almost all of his public actions it has been carefully spun in order to direct our attention away from certain areas as well as to direct it towards others.

I would make the following observations:

  • 1. Johnson doesn’t call on the Attorney-General or the Director of Public Prosecutions to ensure that Hebblethwaite is prosecuted for his brazenly admitted crime. (A twit might wish to object that those two officers are “independent” of the government. Well actually they are not. Moreoever, even in accepted legal terms, decisions on whether or not to prosecute are made “in accordance with public policy”, and it is for the government, led by Boris Johnson, to decide what public policy is. That is not rocket science.)
  • 2. Johnson doesn’t dare call on Hebblethwaite’s employers, which is to say the royalist rulers of the federal state of the United Arab Emirates, to sack Hebblethwaite. (You can be sure that the Emirates desk at the Foreign Office, probably having heard from the British royal family, has “advised” the prime minister that annoying the sheikhs and questioning their right to decide whether or not to sack their servants, wouldn’t be a good idea. But Johnson would already have been aware of this rule. When was the last time you can remember the British government p*ssing off the governments of either the UAE or Saudi? They’d far rather p*ss off Paris or Berlin.)
  • 3. Instead of doing either of these things, Johnson talks as if the only wrong Hebblethwaite has committed is some sort of “honour” offence, some sort of transgression that we (meaning everyone else apart from Hebblethwaite) should consider to be out of accordance with what we imagine is (or should be) his conscience. That sounds ridiculous only because it is. But that’s what’s implied by the call for Hebblethwaite to resign rather than be sacked or prosecuted.
  • 4. I doubt either of the proud knights of the monarchist realm Keir Starmer or Ed Davey will make any of the above points, not even Starmer who as a former DPP could, if he were actually of a mind to, make them with force.
Last edited 3 years ago by Star
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richardw53
richardw53
3 years ago

I agree completely – thank you Dr Seedhouse.

what absolutely baffles me is where were all the infectious disease specialists, virologists and epidemiologists when the ‘pandemic’ broke out? It seems to me that these disciplines were completely rewritten at the start with absolutely no notice being taken of that which was known prior. It is certainly one way of removing a discipline from its root – as has happened to so many in this postmodern age, where robotic repetition of the narrative has replaced scientific enquiry.

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CovidisCommunism
CovidisCommunism
3 years ago

I would say all lockdowns are unethical and there is no moral ground for them they are cruel to separate a human race from friends family , is just cruel beyond belief,

covid was clear as day by May 2020 not dangerous to healthy slim people and that lockdown does nothing to help with slowing down the spread, and cast mass damage mentally physiologically, I believe it will take at least 30 Years for children abs young people damaged by lockdown,

I hope one day soon the lockdown collaborators the ones who clap for the NHS, and said what lovely weather is while sunbathing in their gardens these mid class people, I hope they just have a hard time in the next few months , they have caused our misery too , by complying, with this I hope they say I wish I never went a long with this scam.

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Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago

Dr Ugur Sahin, the COVID-19 vaccine he designed for Pfizer was designed in just few hours in a single day (on a computer) on January 25, 2020. No other vaccine in history has been created and manufactured so quickly. Previously, the fastest vaccine ever developed took more than four years. co-founder of BioNTech Not only that, Pfizer Chairman (((Albert Bourla))) hasn’t gotten around to having his shot, or Dr Ugur Sahin, last I knew. And it went from laboratory straight into human arms without any animal testing first – mRNA never used in humans ever before – doesn’t that strike you as odd?
Obviously, no virus was present, when this vaccine was made on a computer and a Covid infection, was not the basis of the vaccine creation, either.
Documents by Pfizer Show BioNTech Paid FDA $2,875,842.00 “Drug User Fee” for COVID-19 Vaccine Approval
Vaccine Impact
“Vaccine efficacy is generally reported as a relative risk reduction (RRR). It uses the relative risk (RR)—ie, the ratio of attack rates with and without a vaccine—which is expressed as 1–RR. Ranking by reported efficacy gives relative risk reductions of 95% for the Pfizer–BioNTech, 94% for the Moderna–NIH, 91% for the Gamaleya, 67% for the J&J, and 67% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford vaccines.
“However, RRR should be seen against the background risk of being infected and becoming ill with COVID-19, which varies between populations and over time. Although the RRR considers only participants who could benefit from the vaccine, the absolute risk reduction (ARR), which is the difference between attack rates with and without a vaccine, considers the whole population. ARRs tend to be ignored because they give a much less impressive effect size than RRRs: 1·3% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford, 1·2% for the Moderna–NIH, 1·2% for the J&J, 0·93% for the Gamaleya, and 0·84% for the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccines.”
The Lancet Study Doctors for COVID Ethics On The accompanying chart:
Pfizer/BioNtech RRR 95.03% ARR 0.84% From Jab
Moderna (NIH) RRR 94.08% ARR 1.24% From Jab
Janssen RRR 66.62% ARR 1.19% From Jab
Astrazeneca/ Oxford RRR 66.84% ARR 1.28% From Jab
The Lancet
Pfizer ARR 0.84% x3 = 2.52% Covid x3 = 297.48% x4 = 3.36% Covid x 4 = 396.64%
Moderna ARR 1.24% x3 = 3.72% Covid x3 = 296.28% x4 = 4.96% Covid x 4 = 395.04%
Astrazeneca ARR 1.28% x3 = 3.84%Covid x3 = 296.16% x4 = 5.12% Covid x 4 = 394.88%
So 2 shots plus booster = 3 =1,010,880 Trillion, Trillion, Trillion mRNA and Graphene Oxide/Hydroxide particles in your body?
So 2 shots plus 2 boosters = 4 = 2021760 Trillion, Trillion, Trillion Trillion, Trillion, Trillion mRNA and Graphene Oxide/Hydroxide particles in your body?
Jim Woodgett, former Director of Research at Mount Sinai Hospital (2005-2021)
Answered May 5, 2021
The SARS-CoV-2 Spike protein encodes a 1273 amino acid protein. Multiple by 3 to get the number of nucleotides and add some untranslated regions for directing translational start and aiding in stability it rounds to approximately 5,000 nucleotides. 1 nucleotide of RNA has a mass of (averaged) of 320 Daltons. So an RNA comprised of 5,000 nucleotides has a mass of 1600 kiloDaltons.
There are 30 micrograms of RNA in a Pfizer/BioNTech single dose (in 0.3 ml). That means there are about 11.3 x 10 to the power of 12 molecules of RNA per shot.
(First shot?)11,300,000,000,000 molecules of RNA (11,300 Trillion) approximately.
The Moderna shot typically uses more RNA.
Erwin Claassen, Wetenschappelijk Huurling at Waar Niet
Answered May 5, 2021
(2nd Shot) a shitload… dose is 100µg of mRNA (not all vaccines is mRNA), that is around 505.440.000.000.000.000.000.000 copies… more or less (505,440 Trillion Trillion)
So if you have a 3rd booster that might translate to a further 1,010,880 Trillion, Trillion, Trillion mRNA particles in your body?
How COVID Vaccines Deregulate Your Vascular Function
Dr.Bhakdi explains the science behind the blood disorders seen post-vaccination with gene-based COVID-19 “vaccines,” and why, in the long term, these injections may be causing dangerously overactive immune function in hundreds of millions if not billions of people.
He believes the mRNA or DNA in the vaccines are being taken up by the endothelial cells that line your blood vessels. These cells then start producing the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein in the blood vessel wall.
“This is a disastrous situation,” Bhakdi says, “because the spike protein itself is now sitting on the surface of the cells, facing the bloodstream. It is known that these spike proteins, the moment they touch platelets

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago

”….no one reflected on whether it was justified…”
Once again we have someone trying to excuse these wicked people as ”incompetent” or ”unthinking” in what they did. They knew EXACTLY what they were doing, having ”reflected” on it for what seems to be a long time before it happened.

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jsampson1945
jsampson1945
3 years ago

In Britain there is no agreed basis for ethics.

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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago

And as the churches swallowed all the restrictions hook, line and sinker, it doesn’t say much for their leaders’ ethical standards. When Wellyboots said getting the vax is the moral thing to do, to ‘love your neighbour’, he cheery picked, and left out the ‘as yourself’. I do not love myself, or my neighbour, by throwing out all ethical, moral, and Christian standards, as demanded by a government in a blind panic, reacting like a rabbit frozen in headlights.

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conocido en valenciana
conocido en valenciana
3 years ago

“It seems not to have occurred to the decision-makers that the instant removal of fundamental civil liberties required ……”

I do not agree. The decision makers, who were answering to others (clue: W_ _ / Klaus ____), knew exactly what they were doing. It was and is planned and deliberate.

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ozdocabroad
ozdocabroad
3 years ago

As a GP who refuses to give any of the so-called vaccines, I am appalled at the lack of ethics shown by the medical profession in general. They can’t claim ignorance as we are taught about medical ethics.

At a very minimum, lack of full and informed consent should have been enough to set the alarm bells ringing. Instead, the profession just rolled over and proceeded to jab anything that moves. Watching my colleagues laughing about how best to hold down children while sticking them with ineffective stuff was disgusting. My comments about consent were just ignored.

There are plenty of us here in Oz who feel very strongly, but if you say anything against the government narrative, you will be suspended, possibly struck off, and also face the prospect of “re-education”. Many doctors have been suspended. Unfortunately, all we can do is spread a little true information to our patients, and not give the jab. There are plenty of people out there who remain unjabbed, but they are trying to avoid mandates applied by their employers. Meanwhile, the government can maintain a position that the inoculations are purely voluntary.

Altogether very depressing. One ray of light is that 6 month exemptions are allowed if someone has had covid. However, I think that is because a large number of antibody dependent enhanced reactions might be a bit hard to hide, and multiple cytokine storms would harm the narrative about “safe and effective” injections.

Have you noticed that spellcheck reacts when you don’t put a capital on the great god covid?

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