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Britain’s Nuclear Submarines Use Software Designed in Russia

by Will Jones
3 August 2024 5:00 PM

Britain’s nuclear submarine engineers use software that was designed in Russia and Belarus, in contravention of Ministry of Defence rules. The Telegraph has the story.

The software should have been created by U.K.-based staff with security clearance, but its design was partially outsourced to developers in Siberia and Minsk, the capital of Belarus.

There are fears that the code built by the Russian and Belarussian developers could be exploited to reveal the location of Britain’s submarines.

The Telegraph understands that the MoD considered the security breach a serious threat to U.K. defence and launched an investigation.

The inquiry discovered that the firm that outsourced the work – on a staff intranet for nuclear submarine engineers – to Russia and Belarus initially kept it secret and discussed whether it could disguise where the workers were based by giving them fake names of dead British people.

As well as the U.K.’s submarine fleet, there are fears that further defence capabilities could have been compromised because it has emerged that a previous project was also outsourced to developers in Minsk.

Worth reading in full.

Tags: BelarusNational SecurityNuclearRoyal NavyRussiaSubmarine

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
9 months ago

You sold your birthright for a mess of pottage and now you regret it. The whole nuclear infrastructure has been privatised. What kind of a sick society privatises its prisons and then goes on to privatising its nukes. It is the same as the huge mass immigration. You bring these people in because they are cheap labour without any regard to the consequences. You need a kick up the arse. Probably too late but I would give you a good kick up the arse if I thought it would make any difference but you have already destroyed your country forever.

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varmint
varmint
9 months ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

A kick up the arse? ——More like what ever you get for High Treason.

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
9 months ago
Reply to  varmint

It is high treason because the damage is irreprable and has been conducted in such a casual way.

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JohnK
JohnK
9 months ago

Is it paranoia, or could it be a useful insight as to how the other sides equipment works? Unless their kit has moved on and, in effect, sold some junk to our MoD.

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varmint
varmint
9 months ago

But Kaspersky Internet Security will soon be banned. Probably the best security I have had on my devices ever. ——–Oh but wait I think I have just been hacked by the Kremlin.

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
9 months ago

People talk about tactical nuclear weapons as if they are no big deal. A tactical nuke is about 5 kilotons, five thoudand tons of high explosives. Even this could do serious damage, 5000 one thousand pound bombs. You are looking at complete devastation within 2 miles. There is no point being all defiant and macho about such situations. I have lived in countries where they have shelters for every member of the populaton including stored up food and ammo for 3 years of fighthing. We do not have this in our country. Nothing like it.It is assumed that the general population will be wiped out and an administrative class will remain, If you are all gung ho for nuclear war then you really have to look at civil defence in relative terms.

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Heretic
Heretic
9 months ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

Was it Switzerland, I wonder? I read years ago about their admirable self-defence system for the whole Swiss population in case of attack, though by now it must have been ruined by the same mass Third World Invasion, as everywhere else in the West.

Last edited 9 months ago by Heretic
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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
9 months ago
Reply to  Heretic

Same in Norway, They have substantial shelters. We are viewed as expendable as long as the administrative class is protected, The point is that we hae no civil defence whatsoever. You can hide in the cupboard under the stairs or cower under a table – this is still their advice. I saw a recent brooadcast which said shelter in place and wait for a message on your mobile phone, as if such a flimsy network would still be intact. They have no regard at all. We are waltzing towards Armageddon with some vague reassurance that we will be able to fight. Just the discrepancy in civil defence means that we won’t be able to fight at all.

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Heretic
Heretic
9 months ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

“Shelter in place and wait for a message…”

Wasn’t that what Brits & Canadians were told during the Afghan Withdrawal Chaos, before one Brit ignored that advice and made his own dangerous way back to Blighty?

And Canadians were still sheltering while their Sikh Defence Minister secretly ordered Special Forces to focus on getting all the Sikhs out first…

Like the tenants of Grenfell Towers, ordered to “shelter in place”.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
9 months ago
Reply to  Heretic

https://www.globalresearch.ca/predictive-programming-symbolism-ideological-subversion-olympic-games-opening-ceremonies/5864251

An interesting look at the vaguely hidden and debauched messaging behind the Olympic Games opening ceremony.

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10navigator
10navigator
9 months ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

There’s a disconnect between the horrific power of nuclear weapons and how the term kilo-tons is used as a throwaway. Hiroshima, 15 kt, 90,000 folk dead or missing. Gen ‘Buck’ Turgidson offers some light relief by dint of absurdity in Dr Strangelove. When asked by the President the likely outcome of a nuclear strike on the US, Turgidson replies, “I’m not saying we wouldn’t get our hair mussed, but I do say, no more than ten to twenty million killed. Tops!”

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JXB
JXB
9 months ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

Shelters for 65 million and stored up food for 65 million people fur three years… fantasy land

As for nuclear war, we are at greater risk from Net Zero.

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
9 months ago

Don’t ba acting all shocked and surprised and aghast when it happens. The plan from the eastern point of view is already there. You are making a very big mistake.

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Heretic
Heretic
9 months ago

Unbelievable treason by that “firm” who surreptitiously outsourced it to the enemy. Why have they not been publicly exposed and arrested?

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
9 months ago

It has been happening for decades. Sell it off and hope no one notices.We have so little left.Do you remember in the 1980s the ‘tell Sid’ campaign. All of the infrastructure being sold off and we were told that we would live in a shareholder democracy. Share ownership is smaller than ever hardly any Brits have shares. In fact most Brits don’t even have £300 put away for a basic household emergency like buying a new washing machine.

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Jack the dog
Jack the dog
9 months ago

Sackings, loss of generous pensions for the civil servants involved, and hanging drawing and quartering for the company involved.

Simples.

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
9 months ago

The military capablities of this country at the moment are seriously compromised. Just don’t do it because it will be a disaster. Literally the overunning of the British armed forces within a week. You need to learn when to keep your mouth shut They talk about war with the east but they don’t grasp it at all.

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Dinger64
Dinger64
9 months ago

“What’s really going on?”

Where’s Monroe?

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Dinger64
Dinger64
9 months ago

Joining the fsu is more problematic than I thought, but, my 29,99 euro has been taken! Help me! Thick Ding!

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
9 months ago
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29,99?

What subscription is that?

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Dinger64
Dinger64
9 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Thanks hux, it’s sorted 👍
Bit confused about the enrolment process to the fsu, but seems established now

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Phil Warner
Phil Warner
9 months ago

Our two Air Craft carriers were built by Chinese spy cranes (the Goliath class) and with Chinese software, operable by Chinese personnel (from Grant Newshams “When China Attacks or Ian Easton‘s book The Final Struggle, Sorry, I can’t remember which). So Russian software on our submarines is probably a fraction of the problem our woke, gender neutral, dis-armed services have.

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Dinger64
Dinger64
9 months ago
Reply to  Phil Warner

So our nuclear subs are a bit like smart meters (also made in China I dare guess?)
they can be switched off remotely when not required? Oh great!

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
9 months ago

Dont worry, chaps, Starmer is going to create Great British Computer Programming.

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JohnnyDownes
JohnnyDownes
9 months ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

It’s been done before under the Wilson regime. They called it ICL, and it gave us, inter alia, the Post Office Horizon System. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Computers_Limited#Origins

Last edited 9 months ago by JohnnyDownes
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