People are, it seems, growing increasingly more aware of, and increasingly more wary about, what has come to be called the ‘censorship industrial complex’ – that conglomeration of NGOs, academics, journalists and state entities which seems bent on controlling the diet of information which citizens are permitted to digest. But we have only really begun to grapple with what the ‘disinformation’ movement really signifies. How are we to think about it?
In a recent post I described the essence of tyranny as being a set of consequences of government action, which can be summarised as:
The slow but sure erosion and erasure of private lives, private opinions and private property, and the gradual reduction of the sphere of the social to a desultory rump over which the state exerts total oversight.
Tyranny, in other words, consists in the enervation and vulnerablisation of the populace, achieved through policies which have the effect of dissolving all barriers that exist between state and society, such that each and every individual is sundered from social ties and made utterly reliant on his or her relationship to public authority.
I was amused, then, to be given a glimpse of the type of mentality which breathes life into the ‘tyrannical tendency’ in a recent piece of journalism by the BBC’s resident ‘Disinformation Correspondent’ Marianna Spring. Spring, for those who don’t know of her, is the smiling face of the ‘censorship industrial complex’ in the U.K. – a figure who appears, generally around election time, to hint darkly at the existence of sinister forces (Russian spies, trolls, bots, Brexit supporters) subverting the cause of democracy through various nefarious online activities.
Her most recent concern, it turns out, is that, well, Russian spies, trolls, bots and Brexit Reform U.K. supporters are, er, subverting the cause of democracy through various nefarious online activities. The problem that is particularly exercising her this time around is that people keep popping up in large numbers on TikTok videos to leave comments saying dastardly things like ‘Vote Reform U.K.’ This, she suggests, is evidence that something sinister is going on: the online ‘conversation’ is being somehow ‘shaped’.
You can read the article and decide for yourself whether it is entirely sane and exactly how unhinged it is. But what particularly interested me about it was the ‘tell’ which appears towards the end, in which Spring provides us with an insight into a particular way of understanding democracy that a certain class of people nowadays hold.
“[Online] comments that boost the perceived support for a political party,” Spring tells us in the passage in question, “can embolden more real people to join in” (emphasis mine). She goes on:
It is one more piece of evidence in this election that suggests individual social media users and anonymous accounts have the ability to shape the online conversation just as effectively as the content coming from the political parties themselves.
I am sure Marianna Spring is basically a nice and honest person who wants what is best for the world, but I earlier used the word ‘unhinged’, and it is important to note first of all how divorced from reality the disinformation movement actually is. Since time immemorial, when elections take place, people have chosen to signal their support for one party or another visually by putting up signs in their gardens or living room windows saying things like ‘Vote Labour’ or ‘I’m Voting Conservative’ or ‘Ron Smith for MP’. They have dialled into radio talk shows and appeared on TV in vox pops and written letters to newspapers. And they have also conversed with each other – friends, neighbours, colleagues, acquaintances, strangers at bus stops – with regard to whom they are voting for and why. Why, then, would anybody expect them not to do these sorts of things online, and why would anybody, all of a sudden, see anything illegitimate or dangerous in them doing so, when similar activities have never been perceived that way in the past?
So on its face the notion that there is anything sinister going on here is, to put it politely, silly. But there is something deeper at work here. Read Spring’s comment again and pay careful attention to the wording (emphasis mine):
[C]omments that boost the perceived support for a political party – whether they come from U.K. voters or inauthentic accounts – can embolden more real people to join in.It is one more piece of evidence in this election that suggests individual social media users and anonymous accounts have the ability to shape the online conversation just as effectively as the content coming from the political parties themselves.
The implications here are firstly that we should be concerned about real people being “emboldened” to join in the political discussion regardless of their views; and secondly that we should be worried when ordinary people act in such a way as to disrupt “the content coming from the political parties themselves”. We should, in other words, view with suspicion any attempt by the public to connect with each other directly to discuss politics, and we should be especially anxious when people do not simply imbibe the messaging that comes from political parties, but rather seek to have their own ‘conversations’ and indeed seek to ‘shape’ politics themselves.
The disdain for democracy in this is obvious. But more noticeable still to my eye is the tyrannical cast, in the terms in which I have previously described that phenomenon, to Spring’s remarks. This is a person who fundamentally dislikes the idea of ‘emboldening’ people to engage in political discussions with one another. It is also a person who thinks there is something dangerous, disruptive – and, let’s face it, just plain uppity – about ordinary voters refusing merely to listen to their political leaders, and instead trying actively to ‘shape’ political discussion in their own way. The essence of tyranny, remember, is that it always seeks to individualise and totalise – to separate, divide and atomise, and to break down society as an organic barrier to the relationship between individual and state. And an important aspect of that mode of governance is that it should seek to prevent people from developing and expressing private – meaning, really, their own – opinions. Their opinions, such as they have, should simply be given to them from above, handed down by their betters, and should certainly not be developed organically. Opinions, like property, are presumptively best owned by the state, and to be made use of by the population as the state sees fit.
Seen in this light, it is obvious that it is not hyperbole to describe as ‘tyrannical’ the impulse to cast as illegitimate the perfectly normal tendency among human beings to want to discuss politics with one another, however crudely. And it is, then, perfectly natural and indeed unavoidable that we should have to describe the disinformation movement – which seems to eternally seek to realise that end – as an important feature of the tyrannical impulse in our age.
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The left, having repeatedly lost at the polling stations over the last 20 years, have opted instead, via their placemen and women in the media, the unions, the NHS, the civil service and academia, to go for overthrowing the government by underhand means via a de facto general strike, under the cover of a so-called pandemic.
Have I understood correctly?
Yes, a perfect summary of what has happened. You would think the government would now disband SAGE, given that it has been so thoroughly discredited. But Johnson never seems to learn.
So he needs to retain SAGE as modern day soothsayers to back his own tyrannous policies. The next battle may be over who controls the covidian infrastructure / powers for their own political usage under cover of another phoney emergency.
Reminds me of the post-war Tory strategy of overseeing Britains Managed Decline.
They expect defeat and want to be on the ‘winning side’ when it happens.
Yes, Kim Jong-Johnson is driven by whim and, as such, the most elementary reasoning is beyond him.
He is a stumbling, bumbling catastrophe!
If you think that Boris is driven by whim, then you’re an even bigger twat than he is.
Don’t forget that “whim” is likely driven by his globalist “mates”.
SAGE are useful for shifting the overton window. This left wing quasi-socialist Government appear tame by comparison.
‘Disband it’?
Where are the criminal charges for its web of lies and the damage it has done to lives, busineses, mental health and the economy?
20 years hard-labour ( a first for them all!) would seem “appropriaate”.
This country has been suffocated by their lies for two years!
“20 years hard-labour“, really?
You’re too old, and too kind.
They deserve far, far worse.
They are no doubt itching to find another justification for employing these communist tyrants again. Climate change?
They’ve already employed Vallance for said purpose, expect more restrictions.
Spot on. Unbalanced has now started the next ‘control’ measure with maximum use of ‘nudge’ for the ridiculous Net Zero policy which will put the costs of Covid into the shade and for much longer.
I am asked to fill in views for YouGov aboutabout every two weeks and I reckon it is fixed because I used to get asked about Covid restrictions and always answered that they need to be disbanded but now I am never asked about that aspect which means that lockdown sceptics like me are not counted hence the 17%.
I gave up on their polls last year when they stopped asking covid-related questions and stuck to washing powder. They obviously carefully pick and choose their respondents.
He doesn’t have to ”learn”. He has others above him to do that. I’m still amazed that so many people think he’s the one in charge.
SAG(redundant E) will stay with a foot in the door for as long as they’re deemed necessary for the fear campaign. So many people ARE still afraid that it’d be a pity if they lost momentum when they still have so much to contribute. (At the very least, they’ll probably be kept in situ on a retainer.)
But perhaps the article said this. I stopped reading after the words ”Yougov”.
Yes exempt that the underlying strategy was devised between the wars. See Frankfurt School. Long March Through The Institutions.
Triggered by their repeated defeats my Mrs. Thatcher.
Yet this fiendish left-wing plan overlooked the asset stripping and billions looted, meanwhile, by government cronies. How is it these lefty revolutionaries’ plans went so awry as to end up enriching global capital?
We need more austerity to balance the books. And we will get it.
kate, so naive kate, you really don’t get it.
Political left and right disappeared decades ago.
Remember the battle for the centre ground over the last 25 years?
Cue WEF young global leaders coming to fruition; Merkal, Macron, Trudeau, Adern, and Johnson.
All will be sacrificial sheep at the alter of global control.
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Yes, just add in Beijing telling us that we actually want to destroy ourselves, via WuGov.
I’ve yet to see anyone come up with a plausible scenario in which the Mandarin Empire won’t long since have captured and controlled all major online Western polls. They have the technology, the manpower (literally manpower, they have 20 million+ excess penises who need to be kept very busy), and they most certainly have the malicious intent.
Why wouldn’t they?
The cowards are correct: there is no logic in his approach (not that they are right about the bigger picture). His response has been chaotic, politicised, arbitrary.
But if you condition people to follow your rules and to become true-believing covidian zombies, why be surprised when they recoil and curse you as you suddenly offer them freedom?
It’s time to tell ‘the people’ to get a furking grip.
In just two years hey have conditioned people to mindlessly follow ever changing pointless and confusing rules. Take that away and they have nothing left to believe in.
Too true
It reminds of when I lost my first long term👫 girlfriend. I couldn’t remember what I used to do before we met.
(Also after two years, LOL).
Marxist Devils at the heart of a Conservative ( sic) Government!
They are fascists.
Isn’t president Hillary doing well in her second term
#DONTTRUSTPOLLS
Sow the behavioural wind, and reap a whirlwind.
From yesterday I’m clear of Covid after 1 month but last time I tested ⚗ positive I received 3 different dates advising when my self isolation would end including The Same Day I Took the Positive Test even though I was still in ‘in hospital 🤢 with ‘Covid’ at the time LOL.
If I was “pro isolationist’ this might give me some cause for concern🤔.
Hint : don’t test
Clue is in the words ‘in hospital’.
I refer you to my previous answer
See how far your treatment for more serious conditions than Covid goes if you refuse to get tested.
Back of the queue for being an awkward bugger at the very least.
But in any case test/don’t test is not the subject of my post.
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See mine down at the very bottom. It was a little child, throwing a tantrum.
? Sorry, down at the very bottom of what ?
At the very bottom end of this thread.
Did you see? Or did you just assume, and comply?
Genuine question.
Not my downtick btw.
The point DS readers of this post, and similar, fail to take on board is how utterly useless the ‘isolate at home’ process is even if you are 100% believer and advocate.
I’m trapped in hospital so effectively compulsarily tested, it comes up positive yet on the same day I am advised
“You have tested positive for Covid (today).
Your period for self isolation ends today”.
The NHS vaxport app duly bissues digital vaxport valid for one month. This is the third time this had happened so not a one-off computer clitch.
I’m starting to sympathise with the globalists. Maybe the human herd needs culling after all.
I don’t think the numbers are right, but I believe that the majority think this. Yep, I’m actually hoping we can see that saying about waiting for a bus and two turning up… come true. But replace bus with comet.
I would prefer it to be more targeted towards stupidity and cowardice than a comet!
This feels like someone trying to save a poor swimmer who falls off the life raft only to be drowned himself by the flailing fool who refuses to calm down and be rescued.
Im ready to just get back in the life raft and let the fools drown.
The Daily Mail commentariat seem to be overepresented among the 25% who don’t want isolating from home to be permanent.
I’m more of the opinion that the world needs a de-wormer, to remove the families of inter-generational parasites who have brought us to where we are now. If ever there were useless eaters, it is that lot.
Don’t believe a word of it, the unions and the scientists want it to continue, do a REAL poll, not a you gov one.
All polls are rigged to produce the answer they want.
The poll from family and friends says stuff your lockdown’s
Even a pupil on Grange Hill spotted that, in about 1988. “Mrs McLusky will only call a referendum when she’s certain they’ll get the result they want.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA
Thanks for that. 🙂
Brilliant, but no longer necessary. WuGov just selects the respondents that it already knows will give the answer it’s being paid for, even (and especially) if half of them are Chinese bots or agents.
Q1. Have you worn a face mask throughout the deadly pandemic.
A) Yes
B) No (go to question 30)
Q2. Should carriers of the lethal plague be forced to self isolate, or should they be allowed to put you and your granny at extreme risk of covideath?
…
Q30. Imagine tossing a coin. Would you predict it to land showing:
A) Heads
B) Tails
Thank you for your valuable feedback, kerching. Don’t forget to stay safe.
Daily Mail readers have got their number, especially that of the Unions.
“It’s widely accepted that the government uses polling company YouGov to ‘test the waters’ before announcing new policies. In mid-January 2021, YouGov started probing how lockdowns might have affected public concern for the environment. The survey tested agreement with attitudes such as ‘The short-term positive impact Coronavirus has had on wildlife and ecosystems has encouraged me to make better environmental and sustainable decisions’ and the importance of reducing your carbon footprint since the beginning of the Covid pandemic.” ( Dodsworth L. (2021) “A State of Fear: How the UK government weaponised fear during the Covid-19 pandemic” p 81)
I think it should be more widely accepted that “the government” (of China or the UK, not that there’s much difference) uses WuGov to poison the well by telling us what it wants us to think that everybody believes.
Did they only survey people in Scotland to get those poll figures? It’s only North of the border and the more snooty parts of England that I notice anyone showing signs of convid psychosis.
I don’t know, I’m in the SW and in b&q today couldn’t understand a word the assistant was saying, I asked her to pull it down please and said how much I was looking forward to being able to see everyone’s smiles again and understand what they’re saying, her reply “don’t you know 1 in 20 get ‘it’ and I serve 250 people a day so I will be continuing to always wear a mask. There’s no cure for stupid and I can’t even be bothered to try any more.
Just read what I wrote above, really badly written, my apologies, its been a long day.
Can’t say as I’d noticed but in any case it’s what you have to say not how well you say it that’s important.
Similarly in SW. Overheard in a small shop
“Some people have stopped using masks on the buses, every time I see someone cough or sneeze I think ‘thank goodness I’m wearing mine’ “.
I used to roll my eyes or stare in disbelief. Now it’s so predictable that it’s all I can do to stop myself nodding.
It’s the way you ask the questions – but didn’t YouGov polls come unstuck in December
The zealots have nailed their colours to the mast and would look foolish now if they admitted they are wrong, so would say keep restrictions so as not to look so stupid.
Lets reverse the tables, how many of us sceptics would now after 2 years admit we were completely wrong and admit to all the people who we have argued with that we they were right and we were wrong. You’d feel pretty stupid and sheepish.
The best thing is we were right and realised from early on that the politicians and MSM were hyping it up and got it wrong but were unable to back down.
I’d be happy to admit I was wrong, but my outlook on ‘Covid’ is based on all I’ve seen, heard and read, and my own experience, and it still screams SCAM! at me.
Nope, still no dead bodies in the bushes round here, still the same staff alive and well in the shops – just where is the ‘deadly pandemic’?
I still remember a local headline from early into Lockdown One.
“Covid forces local Co-op to close”.
Turns out the sister of one member of staff was identified as having Covic (falsely as it it happens).
All the Co-op staff who had worked on the same shift as her were temporarily ‘furloughed’ and the shop had to close its doors for a few hours while staff were redeployed from other branches and the shop deep cleaned.
All people rememberd for weeks was
“Covid forces Co-op to close”.as though dead staff were clogging up the aisles like in some zombie virus movie.
I’ve been saying that here and elsewhere for the past 18 months. The longer people keep obeying the stupid rules the more difficult it becomes for them to admit to themselves that they have been wrong.
The same applies to the government itself with their responses to Covid.
When a dodgy sat-Nav took them down a narrow track, they couldn’t find reverse gear.
What a load of #OLLOX!
Not really surprising. Two years of captivity has led to Stockholm syndrome in part of the population. The prospect of normality is now scary for some, which presumably was the plan for us all from the outset. Paraphrasing Klaus Schwab the clueless duly like their imprisonment.
On the other hand everybody I meet can’t wait to see unscared faces again. Phuck the hoodwinked.
“Stockholm syndrome”
Good point.
Which is ironic, given that Stockholm doesn’t have Stockholm syndrome
Not even among a few?
They weren’t locked down and, as such, can’t have, even if they were Branch Covidians to begin with.
“Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State”
(“Tutto nello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato”)
Aveva buone intenzioni.
Yes, indeed!
The ESSO company should’ve sued those partisans.
(But at least, they did tie up her skirt.)
The PM’s present consort would do well to pay attention to the lady in the middle of that picture.
Wikipedia says Boris has fathered children. That is impossible.
*grin*
Benito Mussolini, in a speech before the Chamber of Deputies on 26 May 1927.
A history prof once gave me a simple definition of fascism, relating back to its earliest form: the rule by one party, but more precisely … rule by a CLIQUE within that party.
I’ve finally got off my duff and ordered a copy of Stanley Payne’s book, Fascism: Comparison and Definition.
Mussolini said it best:’Everything within the state,nothing outside the state and nothing against the state.’
If the Unions want the madness to continue, that proves beyond all reasonable doubt that Boris is right to open up completely. The sooner the better. Tomorrow at 4am would be a good time to remove all restrictions.
So long as bozo doesn’t use it to appear the freedom granting hero.
The usual suspects are bleating again.
Pollsters will, of course, produce the results they are… ahem… asked to produce, but the
sheeplepeople do have form….I don’t believe that half of people want self isolation to continue forever. This is a rigged poll, like most other polls.
Polls were never designed to reflect public opinion, but to shape it.
Lies, damned lies, and statistics,
AND THEN THERE ARE YOU GOV POLLS….
The #BranchCovidians have #StockholmSyndrome. Simple. They need #Therapy.
They need to be locked away for their own safety, and the Greater Good.
“The Prime Minister’s Press Secretary said businesses would be given a ‘wide range of guidance’ on how to treat employees following the removal of the Covid self-isolation requirement. Legal experts have warned that even without laws it is possible businesses could be taken to an employment tribunal if an outbreak in the workplace leads to serious illness or the death of a friend or relative of an employee.”
Payday for Big Insurance as well as for Big Finance and Big Pharma then. It’s easy to overlook the role of insurers. They get a slice of almost every piece of action in the economy – in the private sector, the state sector, and the “third sector” – just as the banks do. The second sentence in that quote sounds like a veiled reference to insurance.
Also payday for Big Law.
American highways are replete with billboards advertising law firms which can get you lots of moolah if you’re injured in an accident. Seems I’ve actually seen one of those with a photo of the lawyer stern-faced holding a sledgehammer.
Those guys are probably salivating.
It also looks like an indirect way to impose restrictions by getting employers to impose them on staff / customers. It’ll be like the moronic announcements on stations about wet platforms and the like – if challenged, the answer is normally “we have to do it to avoid getting sued”. The same tactics appear to be in use here.
It would be Big Insurance taking a hit this time but it was they who stymied bozos attempts to get people back to work at the end of Lockdown One.
Someone (was it you, Star?) predicted that the role of insurance companies could become very interesting with regard to “vaccine” damage.
Same for Britons then. And for EUropeans even more so. https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/safety-third-covid-19-and-the-american-character/
“Ultimately, safetyism is a radical form of self-regard, and un-American.
Americans must now make a choice. It’s not merely a choice about how we want to live. It’s a choice about who we want to be. Those who fetishize safety posture themselves as virtuous people; they pretend that their concerns are an expression of a deep, abiding care for others. But this is a lie. Ultimately, safetyism—where the avoidance of harm becomes a way of inhabiting the world—is a radical form of self-regard. To elevate safety to the status of an idol reveals a fear of life; it conceals a pathological mindset where worry and uncertainty become a controlling presence. It is solipsistic navel-gazing, a decadent wallowing in anxiety and self-pity.
The dehumanizing aspects of safetyism are disguised by endless platitudes about the well-being of others. But insisting upon others’ compliance so that you can live a safer life (after all, we can never be entirely safe) is ultimately an expression of personal weakness. It is a betrayal of the national character. Taken to the scale of society at large, safetyism threatens the dignity of our people. The time has come for a collective embrace of risk—the inherent risk that is the price of freedom in an uncertain world. The time has come to reclaim our dignity, to become again who we are—and who Americans have always been. Safety third.”
Ellwanger’s got a good point, but I’d like to point out that he’s in Houston. What it’s like where I’m is a far cry, and I know the reason.
America’s big cities are largely under the control of race-hustlers. The way they operate is to keep their electorates frightened, and thereby, aroused.
The suburbs are a far cry. Where I’m at, we do see people wearing masks, but the great majority of us don’t, and no one makes any sort of big deal about it.
I could easily be mistaken, but it seems that Ellwanger is deliberately stirring the pot. (The past decade’s seen a lot of that. The Tea Party movement was good, but there WERE some real wackos in it. The old John Birch Society’s infiltrated the CPAC group in Dallas. Et cetera.)
Want to get the first-taste of Houston politics? Ignore Wikipedia. Go by the following:
https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individuals/sheila-jackson-lee
Notice that she’s been to Cuba twice, on “official” business.
She’s somewhat like the late CM of India’s Tamil Nadu – a goddess in her own minds.
Its such a shame most unions are what they are today and do not fulfill the purpose that they had decades ago, unions are supposed to protect people’s employment, if they are ring leading for more restrictions, all you can see happening is businesses closing and jobs lost, the economy is really ruined as a result.
“This has been compounded by a new YouGov poll of nearly 4,500 Britons that shows three-quarters of people believe the self-isolation requirement after a positive Covid test should remain in place”.
Polls like these are a waste of time, nearly 4,500 people polled is tiny compared to say the protests against restrictions which attracted 100,000s if not more last yr in London
Got as far as YouGov..
you got further than me, I only got as far as “SAGE scientists have also warned”
It’ll be better when they’re relying on “ex SAGE scientist say”…
If you were in the rulers’ position right now – with the population’s minds more submissive than they’ve ever been before, and with a lot of slack left yet – would you want a big war soon or not?
There are some very sad, cowardly, boring and selfish people in the country it seems. A lot of them.
God, what a load of pathetic tadpoles the Brotish people have turned into.
Is the decision driven by political considerations? Very likely. Is the decision the right one. Also very likely.
Informative (and encouraging) that the best rated DM readers comment is ‘Half want to curbs forever?!? What?!
7487 upticks, 224 downticks at time of posting.
I would have more faith in this readout rather than a youGov poll.
There’s no point in asking the wider population what they think — they’ve been brainwashed over the last two years to consider covid an existential threat.
The public want to carry on …
Either the public have the intelligence and backbone of an amoeba or the polls are lying. “We want to sit at home until the country collapses so we can kill each other for scraps of food and live like animals.”
But … the low office utilisation was always going to happen over time but the speed will cause major problems. What happens when all the loans go bad as interest rates climb. What will happen to domestic mortgages? But, I expect people will think it’s ok when the government take their homes as long as they can watch Netflix.
Give me strength. Let’s say it again; “money really does not grow on trees”. I mean money as in value not currency which grows in computers.
Hmm, YouGov poll, the “independent” poll that has two paths depending on your first answer. They then choose the one they want to report on. My wife does loads of them, she loves polls and questionnaires, even gets paid for them. She says the results are ludicrous because people in the attached forums are saying the opposite of what YouGov prints.
If you enable and pay the people for taking the mickey out of the system by effectively having ‘vacations’ at home for 2 years, they and their even lazier and more corrupt ‘representatives’ will fight tooth and nail to prolong this for as long as they can, ideally forever.
Capitalism 101.
I suspect the government has a mental-health problem on its hands with facemasks.
Some people look like they fear the day when they’ll have to leave home without a mask. They seem to be wed to masks like non-swimmers are wed to arm-floats.
The government deliberately injected a fear into society that doesn’t appear to be dissipating. I think they’re going to have to be proactive and at least go back to their original claim that facemasks are less than useless. That would be a necessary first step, but I doubt it would be sufficient.
There will need to be a law that prohibits mask wearing in public places. Even in their own homes neurotic mask freaks will need the written consent of those they live with.
Aaah – can you remember the heady days when if anyone entered a business (especially banks and post offices) with their face covered by a scarf they were asked to remove it in case they were hiding their identity for nefarious purposes?
Yes, dimly!
I think it would be much more important to target the source rather than the symptoms, by preventing media and governments from manipulating people’s vulnerabilities.
There are a lot of people out there who are vulnerable to various fears and neuroses; seemingly many young children are now terrified that they’re going to be frazzled by climate change. As things stand, I doubt the manipulation will end with the end of this pandemic.
That’s cruel to people who’ve been knowingly traumatised by 2 yrs of psy-ops..
Live and let live. Just publicise the harms to health and let people make their own minds up.
Traumatised certainly but in my experience they haven’t wasted any opportunity to virtue signal their mask obedience. It’s going to take some time to forgive their ignorance and their arrogance.
That fear has been around in various forms for a long time.
In America, there are law enforcement fraternal organizations — charities — and for ages they’ve held periodic fundraisers. Us old farts are accustomed to getting calls from telemarketers working contract with those, asking for donations. (Note that the calls are from civilians employed by companies which do the calling for the police lodges.)
My sainted mother NEVER turned them down. She ALWAYS donated.
Some 40 years ago, she explained: “You never want to get a policeman mad at you.”
I told her, they weren’t policemen. She just shook her head, incapable of believing that.
When I was growing up there were a few occasions when the police could have got mad, but they had more important issues on their minds.
Do away with the technology, all this hassle will go away.
By now the snowflakes should have melted
As Poll Shows Just 17% Support End of Self-Isolation, While Half Want it to Continue FOREVER
Yeh right … I also remember opinion polls that claimed that Remain would win the EU Referendum and that Hillary Clinton would beat Donald Trump in a landslide victory to become the USA’s first woman president … you can manipulate opinion polls if you ask the right questions – once upon a time they were an ideal tool to try and gauge public feeling – now they’re just used to produced the results the establishment political elite want to see in order to manipulate and influence the public mindset and justify unpopular governmnet policies … I’ll never trust another poll for as long as I live.
Absolutely right. Time was that Market Research/Opinion Poll companies had some integrity (though never 100% in my experience). Now they feel free to just brazenly make it all up, forget random sampling, unadjusted results, etc.
Surely there’s a body that monitors these biased companies? If not, why not?
I agree with “Time was…”
27 years ago, I’d studied the history of one particular (and very-damned good) market research company, and called the home office one day with an arcane question about it. I was blessed with a 45 minute chat with the firm’s then-near-retired founder (who happened to be in the building.)
Part of the conversation was about how his company had discovered substantial fraud going in inside the manufacturing arm of a major processed/frozen foods maker. It led to part of that firm’s staff being canned by top management. How did the MR firm detect the fraud? By being very precise and honest in how they ran the customer satisfaction survey for the head office.
The problem is that any such body would be under the control of those who want the fabricated results. They would only be monitored when working for those who oppose whatever narrative is being played out, if ever.
Let those who want to, stay indoors and hide away. Just leave the rest of us alone and let us get on with living.
Provided they don’t expect any government financial support, and don’t whinge if they have a job which can’t be done at home (or can’t be done effectively) and they get sacked due to refusing to go to a workplace.
there is also a suspicion that the media and establishment are trying to remove boris and install starmer because he has finally looking to lift some restrictions, I noted yesterday (wed) that Johnson announced this, then later in the day a “photo” emerged of him allegedly at a quiz night ignoring restrictions, seems to me all this blackmail material was saved up to release when there was pushback against restrictions. Instead of questioning if Johnson thought it was such a dangerous virus why did he then ignore his own restrictions, the media are painting it as starmer was a good boy and cared for others and obeyed everything why Johnson was reckless and could have metaphorically killed people.
Well you reap what you sow.
YouGov polls are effectively self-selecting with a requirement to be registered on-line and given voucher rewards for answering. There is no way these can be representative. Furthermore the questions are phrased to permit only certain answers. Check it out yourselves by going to their website.
Correct. Random samplig is “so yesterday”, apparently.
I never thought the hypnosis had gone this far. But evidently it has. If we see the same results in 12 months, we’re done for.
I wouldn’t worry too much about some silly poll.
We will continue to see fools shuffling around the supermarket wearing face masks. But every week that goes by there will be less and less of them. We’re already at 25% going mask-free, at least according to my highly unscientific observational studies. And the number is increasing. I figure we’ll be close to 50% before the end of February, and sometime there will be a tipping point, where people won’t want to stick out by wearing one.
I’d wager good money that by June of this year, you’ll rarely see a mask at all.
I’m not so sure, I think they appeal to a certain type of neurotic, uptight, sanctimonious, self-obsessed person who will never give them up now.
It may be sooner than that. My train to the office was packed this morning. Passengers were squeezed in to the vestibules. However, no more than 10% were muzzled.
The office is attempting to force us to wear muzzles when standing, but despite reminders coming from the top, no more than 20% are obeying. People are cramming into lifts where they would normally have waited for the next one.
Went out for lunch and all of the hospitality staff have disposed of their muzzles.
It is over in the cities (or at least mine). Something seemed to happen suddenly this week, where they all collectively took the same action. Perhaps the dissenters just reached critical mass for the herd to follow. This has happened before but probably not to the same degree and definitely not while we are still in winter.
Broadly true at my place as well. Hardly any staff in the supermarket using them now, just some of the customers – mostly elderly at that time of day the last time I was in there. Also, at an appointment at the dentist’s, none of the other patients were wearing them in the waiting room, nor were the receptionists at the desk. Just normal medical ones used by the dentist himself.
Professor Tim Spector, leader of the ZOE Covid study app at Kings College London:
This is so paranoid, someone like this should not have a job in public health as he is spreading fear which causes ill health. Those jabs must be pretty crap if statements like this are valid from someone coining a living looking at the data. Your risk of getting it is huge. Yawn, play the other one, this is getting tedious and boring now. There never was a super killer mega virus. It could not be more obvious. Everyone has been conned, and these idiots calling for more of this deranged Covid terrorism need to wake up and smell the coffee. The spell has been broken and people have woken up to the scam which has nowhere to go, unless you want to break people, risk civil war and make folk ill with obsession about respiratory disease – causing enormous mental health consequences as a result, turning people into OCD consumed morons for life. Good one, thats how to build a strong nation. Its really quite traumatising seeing kids in masks for example, I feel so bad for them. England will not be further darkened by this nonsense so credit where its due, we have to applaud the PM for not taking us down the insane Covidian fanatic route. People calling for more of this crap are going to look more and more stupid as time goes on (they already do), the reality is the antivaxxers and conspiracy theorists have called this insanity correctly at every step of the way and the other side has lied and cheated and scammed and changed definitions to fit the storyline and not a lot else. We have seasonal respiratory diseases and always have done, some seasons are worse than others and sometimes lives are lost but thankfully its nearly always those at the very end of their natural days. As individuals in free societies we should be free to do what we choose including having access to the best advice not railroaded into signing up for trials for death causing experimental crap like Remdesevir and certainly not turned into genetically modified non-humans. That situation needs to be challenged heavily in court and profiteers facilitators and scammers in this regard should be banged up for a VERY long time.
If the GOV really want to help peoples health in winter (which they clearly dont), send them industrial quantities of Vitamin D and it will have a positive effect. It doesnt matter what happens because IT (the virus whose existence has never been satisfactorily proven) never presented any more of a danger to public health than the common flu, a truth which was publicised and endorsed by the best and the brightest in the relevant fields from very early on, so the PM (who considering what has happened in the last two years is actually in not bad shape and has handled partygate and all sorts of crap with some skill) can do this knowing 100percent that there is not going to be a sudden tsnuami of death or blood on his hands because there was never a super killer mega virus in the first place and even if there was, these ridiculous restrictions achieve nothing worthwhile anyway, its tantamount to being cruel for crueltys sake and not a lot else. The world is not going to implode because of pointless restrictions being lifted and these comments from these so called academics show the absurdity of their position based on “the science” aka “the bullsh*t” and lack of validity and worth to their influence
Zoe does not want to see their massive funding going up the swanny…
Given a choice between losing funding and ending up the way those who aid and abet tyrants inevitably end up, I’d choose the former.
Money talks, in the case of Spector.
LOL!
Speaking personally, I have given up on the average UK adult human – such is their stupidity, fear, and anxiety to be seen to be following the herd; it seems that the psychos and zombies pulling the levers and dictating gubmint policy can get away with whatever they want.
Hahaha! A yougov poll: oh the shock.
Supermarket workers must be wondering what all the fuss is about
YouGov, the trustworthy pollster. I wonder if they gave a figure of 71% anywhere in their ‘study’?
Too far, too fast.? Not amongst my circle of friends. This bizarre cult of ‘safety-ism’, of ‘stopping the spread’ is still alive and well amongst those who think you can micromanage the effects of an airborne virus. It is absurd, but shows the forces at work in decision making, and the appeasement of the dooms-dayers. Maybe they think the Government should buy the a new sofa, so they can hide behind it.
There’s something seriously wrong with the political system of a country when the general secretary of a public-sector (workers) union feels entitled to demand that members of the general population are to be punished with house arrest if a technical analysis determined that their bodys are probably contaminated with unauthorized RNA fragments.
At a funeral today I was the only unmasked among 7 others, apart from the vicar in a perspex shielded box and the undertakers who I didn’t particularly notice one way or the other. Most also used the hand gunk on entering and leaving the chapel. Made me wonder if the person in the coffin was also masked.
Yes, many people want and are prepared for this to go on forever and think the PM has lost his mind.
It’s the Stockholm Syndrome. I’m also convinced there must be people who sleep with the damn things covering their faces. I suggest a prize for the first candid photo proving it.
Sage is dominated by behavioural psychologists – how they can possibly advise on this is beyond me
it’s a mystery (?) that most of the world renown scientists at the top of their game have been silenced and we listen to psychologists one of whom is a communist
we rely on a test to tell us we are ill from a deadly virus that we wouldn’t know we had unless we’d tested for it using a test that’s generally cycled at 40-45 in the UK a test that’s not fit for purpose and whose creator deemed was not to be used for diagnosis in this way
if we get rid of these ‘tests’ the ‘deadly virus’ will disappear
the more we test the more we find if we tested for morons we’d find plenty of them!
Yet another dubious poll of what – 4451 people, in a country of 67 million. What exactly were the questions and how were the select few chosen? I remember a previous splash across the pages of the Daily Fail, exclaiming that Brits supported the vaccination of children. That was based on all of 1007 people. Perhaps we should poll another thousand or so to see if we should declare war on Russia.
The idea of overloading an economic/governmental structure until it collapses, thereby allowing a rebuilding in a (cough) ‘different form’ . . . . . .
That’s not new.
The Cloward-Piven Strategyhttps://www.discoverthenetworks.org/organizations/clowardpiven-strategy-cps
(Warning, it’s long but damned important. Go thru to the links at the bottom of the page.)
If there is a ‘great reset’ in operation, it almost certainly knows of Cloward-Piven. The only ones who might not would be self-absorbed dickheads like Bill Gates.
NYC’s 1975 bankruptcy was created using those tactics.
The 2008 global financial crash was a product of it, going back to the creation of the Community Reinvestment Act, using the inherently-flawed sub-prime mortgage as the dynamite.
The Obama/Jarrett Presidency’s extreme genderization of the American military is Cloward-Piven applied with a different twist, one designed to lurk beneath the surface, building strength over time.
(how th’ hay did that happen?)
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Bent polls and crazed Lefty Marxist Feminist Unions = total BS!
I’m not sure who these idiots are. I’m reading this whilst sitting on the train heading home to north London. I’ve been to two social events this pm albeit briefly – one to welcome two new joiners to our team and the other to say goodbye to someone who has worked in our firm for 17 years (in our front of house and catering team which makes our business tick). Both bars rammed with people enjoying each other’s company – about 60-70 people in total. No dread, no fear, no discussion about covid, just a great sense of people doing what people do – enjoying each other’s company. And I loved watching it. Made me appreciate the important social function businesses like ours perform. Our office in central London is filling up, there’s are queues in the cafeteria at lunchtime now, and people talking about how much they’ve missed the company of colleagues. So who are these people the polls are calling. They’re not the people who I see every day, they’re not the clients I work with who can’t wait for face to face meetings and a return to normality. They’re not the people my business employs. Oh wait, just realised: my business is in the private sector, part of the economy that creates the taxes to pay the bloated public sector. Those are the people the pollsters are calling; not the ones who actually create wealth.
“people enjoying each other’s company”
What was the central thread of Orwell’s 1984? … The relationships between people? … What was the regime’s position toward those relationships?
I don’t think the polls are accurate but equally I don’t think your sample is representative. There are a lot of older/retired people in this country and sadly I suspect many of them are still fearful
99-100% face masks here in Finland. You don’t say how many on your train were wearing face masks – and for this you’d need to walk the length of the train and do a count.
So, some people in a bar were without face masks. Great, if you want to spend the rest of your life in a ‘rammed bar’.
For those interested in the data, 84.76% of deaths in the last 4 weeks were among the vaccinated. 84.6% of the over 12’s are vaccinated with at least 2 doses.
This is very similar to a ponzi scheme, still a lot of money up for grabs
A dodgy positive test is not a twatting infection. I want to rip my face off I am so angry at the lockdown lovers grrrrrrrrrrrr.
It’s so stupidly funny. I went to another site for a few minutes, then came back. It looks like someone came in here and began down-dinging, working fast and straight down the page.
Awwwww … th’ little child’s feelings were SO hurt. Awwwwwwww.
C’mon, down-ding this one, too.
It’s such a revealing thing to do and relfects the kind of irrationality we face when trying to make arguments to these brainwashed zombies. Wait till he/she/it learns about sock puppets.
“The Web” is a place where anything can come.
Unfortunately, Tim Berners-Lee didn’t realize that back in the Eighties.
The last word on Covid IFR (Infection Fatality Rate). Fantastic article.
https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2022/02/10/some-observations-on-the-infection-fatality-rate-of-covid19/
One word…..🤔……bollox
Ooh! Will it pass the naughty test?
I’m saying nothing….
There will be no cost to public sector staff as a result of Covid. Their salaries will be inflation protected, their pensions are already inflation protected and they will not lose their jobs.
Their employer (the government) is incapable of enforcing working rules so they will continue to do as much as they want and to direct policy in ways that suit them.
The majority of public sector workers are not well paid (I think it’s roughly £27k on average). The majority of them have not had a significant (above 1%) pay rise in around a decade. The Government has done nothing but screw over their workers for over a decade. They have tried to diminish the pensions. Tried to cut the terms and conditions. Increased working hours and tried to reduce the redundancy rate to 3 weeks for every year worked up to 15 years maximum. Now senior civil servants are mostly cowardly, self interested, greasy pole climbers but lower grade – by that I mean AA to grade 6 are just normal people trying to get by who have no interest in self interest and are as utterly pissed off with this shit show as everyone else is.
as for doing what they want. That’s simply not true either. There is a large volume of staff who can’t return to the office full time because some buildings have been sold off or leased out and the Government has actually FORCED hybrid working on their staff through stealth cut backs. Everyone is paying the horrific price for what the Government did. Everyone that is except the millionaire Politicians, their bastard SPADS and all the other lackeys who never get picked up for wrecking lives.
And the majority (actually all) of public sector workers are free to seek better paid work in the private sector…….and yet they don’t. Now why would that be?
Just as “poppy fascist” has entered the lexicon in the UK to describe the nasty culture of bullying directed by some towards those who choose not to wear a poppy, so too should “vaccine fascist” enter the lexicon. Words have power.
Whenever someone calls me an “anti vaxxer” I call them a “vaccine fascist”. I’m not normally into name calling, but have found this particular retort surprisingly effective at stopping them in their tracks with a taste of their own medicine. Try it out, you’ll see what I mean, they do back peddle some and don’t like it when the shoe is on the other foot.
Another I quite like is “virtue vaxxer” – those who are oh-so virtuous about having had the jab. Same result, often. Several times I’ve been asked with disgust “You’re not an anti vaxxer are you?” to which I reply in kind, “You’re not a virtue vaxxer are you?” They then ask for a definition and once received tend to back peddle once more.
I seem to recall an early episode of ‘Peaky Blinders’ where communists in workforce unions were seen as a threat to our national security.
How have we arrived at a point, almost a century on from the fictional drama, where long term members of the British Communist Party, aka Susan Michie, are advising the government on policy?
And more to the point, why the hell were / are they listening to them?
According to the press, BJ’s announcement about the ‘end’ of restrictions this month was done without reference to SAGE at all! Significant progress maybe. I do hope so. As indeed I hope that the allegedly upcoming review of Govt policy on covid will recognise the heinous failure and incompetence of SAGE and PHE in killing tens of thousands in care homes / hospitals nearly two years ago through both acts of commission and omission.
“The Prime Minister’s Press Secretary said businesses would be given a “wide range of guidance” on how to treat employees following the removal of the Covid self-isolation requirement.”
One of the hallmarks of the rogue government has been to deflect blame and criticism of their policies onto others by shifting responsibility. So they are shifting responsibilities to employers but providing ‘advice’ on how responsible employers can protect the workforce.
No doubt that advice will include that employers should make it compulsory for current and future employees to be injected according to the vagaries of coerced vaccination schedules. In addition, the unjabbed who have been prejudged as being guilty of transmitting disease, will now have to personally fund the testing mechanisms to prove they are fit to work, on a repetitive, costly basis. The only way out of this financial dilemma will be that the unjabbed lose their uninjected status and conform to employment policy aka rogue government charter.
Most probably, the health status of employees families ie whether unjabbed and therefore seen as disease-ridden undesirables, will also eventually influence the deployment of staff, in the best interests of the workforce to minimise poor health.
I suspect there will be some type of government grant allowed to employers who take such a keen interest in the health and well-being of their workforce and the greater community.
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Call me old fashioned, but what was wrong with staying at home if you feel ill ( with anything)? The unions are desperate to be significant and will stoop to fearmongering ( learnt from SAGE, etc.) to be influential. We should scrap the use of PCR as a diagnostic tool and bin LFTs ( and save the planet from plastics in the process!). Members of the public need to learn to think a bit more and not be led around by the nose by highly educated idiots and malevolent wrongdoers.
A teacher I know is gutted. She lives in an extended family unit. At Christmas, she told me she had worked out how to get six weeks off isolating on full pay, as each if her family members would test positive on lateral flow. I asked her didn’t her boss mind? oh no, she said, he’s in the same union and is really supportive of anyone isolating anytime, no questions asked.
Love these poll results that take the responses of a few thousand of extrapolate out to tens of millions. Sooooo credible.
The polls are probably done in an office of 10 people – 1 person = 10%.
You Gov question:
Would you rather self isolate forever, or be executed in five minutes time?
It would be interesting to see exactly how the questions were stated.
Also as it was Unison members questioned who are mainly public employees they will receive full pay if they are ‘off sick’ with a dodgy test.
I have banged on about the flamin’ tests or a long time – it is time stop them completely.
If some nutter is desperate to self test then let them pay for it.
I don’t trust YouGov polls it tends to attract people from the left, you can see this from their comments.
I suspect if the Daily Sceptic did a poll, I suspect the results would be the polar opposite.
It’s no surprise the public sector want to carry on with lockdowns, restrictions etc, they will be on full pay regardless and have no danger of losing their jobs.
If this survey was a fair reflection of public opinion, it shows how effective the government’s scare tactics have been to scare the weak-minded into submission. Problem is, they will need to spend a shed load of money now on a counter narrative to get them to come out of hiding.
The government should have considered the likely outcomes of their actions from the start, but of course a long term strategy was outside their planning abilities. They are now in another hole of their own making. Ye sow, so shall ye reap.
The government don’t want the submissive to come out of hiding. The government depends on the submissive to keep the narrative going – the will of the people.
Endless holidays become rather addictive.
Time to demand that the likes of Spector must declare their financial interests, and stop shelling out for opinion polls traders.
Unions have 2 default functions: getting more money for their members and getting their members to do less work; ideally both at the same time. It’s hardly a surprise that they are mainly in the public sector and that they are crying “the sky is falling”
Trade unions; simply another cohort of the enemy within. Perhaps we should also add the gullible to that group. Life comes with risks; they need to accept that and stop pandering to the aspiring fat controllers.
Wouldn’t it be nice if the Uk just followed the science rather than take advice from a biased group of people. We now know so much more about covid, the plandemic and the experimental biologicals that are offering not a soupçon of effectiveness. But hey, let’s just keep following bought scientists from bought institutions and let’s all lock ourselves in the closet at home forever.
any mention of the sudden advice from the scientist Harry (previously known as prince), for everyone to get a HIV test. Wow, didn’t see that coming. Remember the rumour that hiv was inserted into the fur in cleavage of the man made covid virus,when it was made at fort Derrick? Luc Montagnier, the Professor, expert in HIV, died two days ago. No longer around to discuss his thoughts…..so here we go folks. Remember PCR tests and the inventor of this test,Kary Mullins, who said PCR tests should not be used for viruses such as covid especially at high cycle threshold. Guess what? He died about a month before covid took over the world. I am certain these deaths are just coincidental, like all the adverse events and deaths post vaccinations.
You can have a Pol or you can have science. You can’t have both.
“Opinion is the medium between knowledge and ignorance” – Plato
“The State, in choosing men to serve it, takes no notice of their opinions; if they be willing faithfully to serve it – that satisfies. I advised you formerly to bear with men of different minds from yourself” – O. Cromwell
The graphic tells us all the cost. HMG tell us the NPI”s were a great success and we had the greatest growth last year since 1941.
Somebody is clearly tell lies.
Wonder who??
As a FOIA request discovered, the UK’s 150,953 deaths reported is highly misleading, with at least an order of magnitude fewer only having covid on the death certificate, and the large uncertainty of the ’28 days following a positive test’ meaning death could be from a myriad of other causes. The country comparisons also need levelling out to a per-capita number. [Note: In Uttar Pradesh in India, they deployed Ivermectin via a ‘Test & Treat’ programme, and with an ~6% vaccination rate, have declared the state covid-free.]
Also, the unions have to understand that (1) we can never be free of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, and (2) ‘isolating’ is just the scary political term for being ‘off sick’, which is normal behaviour when ill, regardless of cause.
And it must be asked, why haven’t the unions jumped on the knowledge that there are safe and effective therapeutics, that work within 48 hours of first symptoms, and enable natural immunity to develop – a combination far far better and safer for their ‘members’ than the vaccines. It’s as if they want people to suffer.
As soon as I saw the words ”Yougov poll” I stopped reading.
Looks like most people are their own worst enemy. They look to the state to protect them instead of taking responsibility for their own health. Heaven help us if we ever get a genuine serious pandemic!
Those yougov polls are a propaganda fix!!
Polls are easily manipulated. Referenda even with oversight can be too but less easily and are the only way forward for democracies
After two years of relentless fear propaganda led by Boris Johnson , it is little wonder that a Prime Minister, who has not exactly covered himself in glory, is having difficulty getting the proposed easing of rules to stick. I fear that we may have created two nations, but not Disraeli’s version, actually it is three. The first closely resembles pre March 2020 normality, the second is a jobsworth’s paradise and the third is full of neurotic health obsessives who believe that the end of the world is nigh. We are in quite a fix. So what is to be done? Ideas on a postcard please.
Withdraw taxpayer funding from sectors two and three. Job done.
Where on earth do they get these poll results? Everyone I know wants all measures to stop NOW!
Of course SAGE say it’s too soon, after all they’ve always been correct with their guesswork. The Unions don’t want normal service resuming – work at work and all teachers behaving less like the children they have frightened. Where they think their future cosy pensions will come from without a fully functioning society I have no idea.
Stockholm Syndrome is alive and well in charge of the sheeple.
So, three-quarters of “those polled” want stupid restrictions to continue, and unions want to destroy the economy. Lazy sods wanting to be paid to stay home forever, and unions wanting a party to run the country which is even more socialist than Johnson?
I’m 58 years old, still never been questioned by opinion pollsters. Humm. Never done jury service. never been stopped by a TV crew in the street…
IGNORE THE POLLS – they are fake.
Heaven alone knows where YouGov finds people who want top continue lockdown in such one-sided numbers – because that does not in any way reflect the conversations I have with my friends, family or peers.
YouGov poll! yeah right! Complete load of bollocks!! (legitimate word, not profanity). Everybody I know is sick of all this nonsense, even former lockdown lovers who I know have had enough of it!
“So, other countries might be doing this, but they have a much stronger public health message and a much better-educated public”
Meanwhile in Germany the argument is “the Brits may be doing this, but they are totally different, more vaccinated etc.” Sound familiar?
Tim Spector of the Zoe project is only worried about one thing and it’s losing the huge amounts of government grants he’s been getting running into millions of pounds. He doesn’t do irony by making statements about politics v science.
Can I suggest that more people do what I did – register to do the YouGov Daily questionnaire so that our voices can be heard. I did the poll referenced at the top and was horrified so many wanted isolation to continue forever. There is always a comments box at the end of the survey where you can write freehand, which I always do! There is then the chance to rate other people’s comments- I only did this once as I don’t have the stomach for it!
I am one who thinks ending the removal of restrictions is correct and I’m sure there are many scientists who agree, but will never have their voices heard because of MSM control. If people are sensible and restrict their activities when they have symptoms as they normally would with a bad cold or influenza then things should be fine. The unions want to support their members who have enjoyed having multiple excuses for not working when in many instances there is nothing wrong with them.
What sensible person gives a flying f*** what unions and scientists think or say?
The former a bunch of left-wing woke layabouts and the latter under the thumb of the WEF and the obnoxious Klaus Swhwab.
Tell the lot of them to bugger off.