As I make my way home from work, I occasionally catch a glimpse of the headlines on a fellow commuter’s newspaper. Recently there seem to have been a lot of scary headlines relating to whooping cough, such as ‘Pregnant women urged to get vaccinated amid surge in whooping cough cases’ and ‘More babies could die from whooping cough, says vaccination expert’. It seems that there has been a drop in vaccination rates in pregnant mothers and that babies who have been infected with whooping cough are predominately those of mothers who didn’t receive the vaccination during pregnancy. So, the inference was very much that unvaccinated mothers were to blame for this outbreak. However, in the light of my somewhat sceptical view of the Covid vaccine, I wondered if this was just another bit of propaganda trying to get pregnant women to take a vaccine they either didn’t want or didn’t need. But it turns out, it isn’t as simple as that.
Whooping cough can affect people of any age but mainly affects the younger population and it is particularly serious in infants. It is caused by a bacterium (Bordetella pertussis or Bordetella parapertussis) which can be found in the mouth, nose and throat of infected people. The infection often starts with typical cough and cold symptoms which develop into coughing bouts that can last several minutes. The cough, particularly in babies, may have a distinctive ‘whoop’ and babies can struggle to breathe due to the coughing. In the U.K. so far during 2024, five infants have died from whooping cough. Pregnant women are advised to get vaccinated against whooping cough during their pregnancy, even if they received the vaccination when they were babies themselves. This is so that they can pass on the benefits of the vaccination to their unborn babies who would be too young, when born, to receive the vaccination themselves or not have sufficient time to build up immunity to protect them against infection. Whooping cough vaccination is typically given at eight, 12 and 16 weeks but that leaves babies under three months old quite vulnerable to infection if their mothers didn’t get vaccinated during pregnancy.
But, you may ask (well as I asked actually), “Why is there an increase in the rate of whooping cough? I thought that vaccination had been pretty successful to keep the rates of infection fairly low. Is it just, as the headlines might lead you to believe, irresponsible pregnant mothers who are to blame?”
If we look into the history of whooping cough, we find that it really was quite a serious disease back in the 1940s. In the U.K., there were approximately 2,500 deaths in infants under one year of age each year from whooping cough. Following the introduction of the whooping cough vaccine around 1950, there was a dramatic decrease in infant whooping cough deaths, reducing to around 80 per year by the early 1970s with some increased mortality during outbreaks. The decline in infant deaths continued through the 1980s and into the early 2000s. By the year 2000, there were just two reported deaths in the U.K. from whooping cough. Even for the most sceptical anti-vaxxer, this looks like a success.
So, what changed and why are we now seeing an increase in cases and an increase in deaths in infants? As in many things, the devil is in the detail. Up until 2004, the U.K. used a whole-cell pertussis (wP) vaccine. However, in 2004, in the U.K., the vaccine was changed to the acellular pertussis (aP) vaccine due to concerns about the side-effects and safety profile of the wP vaccine. Most of the side-effects were non-serious such as fever, redness, swelling at the injection site and persistent crying, but there were concerns about more serious side-effects such as febrile seizures and encephalopathy. The side effect profile of the aP vaccine was better with lower incidence of fever, local reactions and other side-effects. Although the main safety concerns for the wP vaccine related to seizures and encephalopathy, large epidemiological studies found no causal link between the wP vaccine and permanent neurological damage. At this time, the whooping cough vaccine was not usually given to pregnant women although, for both the wP and aP vaccine, the safety profile in pregnancy appears good.
Whooping cough was kept pretty much under control following the change from the wP to the aP vaccine. The case numbers in England were 336 in 2002, 192 in 2003 and 256 in 2004. They gradually began to rise in the subsequent years with 366 cases in 2005, 404 in 2006 and 615 in 2007. However, laboratory confirmed cases continued to rise gradually until 2011/12 when there was another outbreak of whooping cough (Fig 1) with 1,053 cases in 2011 and 9,367 cases in 2012.
This outbreak in 2012 led to a change in health policy and the introduction of the vaccination of pregnant women. However, in spite of that change in policy, cases didn’t return to pre-2004 levels. The only time we see case numbers drop is during the Covid pandemic. Some argue that this relates to social distancing reducing the infection rate of whooping cough, but it seems just as likely that whooping cough cases were assigned as Covid cases due to the similarity of symptoms.
I wondered whether infection rates were similar in other countries and what I found out was rather interesting. Some countries, such as the USA, Australia and several European countries all introduced the aP vaccine somewhere between the late 1990s and early 2000s. The USA has experienced increased cases of whooping cough since the switch to the aP vaccine with significant outbreaks occurring in recent years. A similar story can be found in Australia and the European countries that switched to the aP vaccine. However, in those countries which continued to use the wP vaccine, there is a different story. In countries such as Brazil, India and China where the wP vaccine continues to be used, the infection rates remain stable. Studies comparing populations vaccinated with the wP vaccine versus those vaccinated with the aP vaccine have consistently shown higher rates of whooping cough in the latter group as immunity wears off more quickly. Data also indicates that individuals who received the wP vaccine have more robust long-term immunity compared to those who received the aP vaccine.
I wondered if, on balance, there were likely to be more deaths and serious adverse events from using one or other vaccine taking into account both the side-effects of the vaccine and the deaths from the disease itself. These data are more difficult to tease out, but it seems that, although minor side-effects such as fever, redness and swelling at the injection site occur more often with the wP vaccine than with the aP vaccine, deaths from the wP vaccine are rare (mainly related to allergic reactions). However, it must be understood that the whooping cough vaccine was and still is given as a combination vaccine with vaccines against other diseases such as diphtheria and tetanus, so you can’t necessarily blame the wP vaccine alone for such deaths. It is very difficult to get reliable figures as adverse events and deaths from vaccines are poorly reported and a more in-depth study would be required to look into this in more detail comparing vaccination deaths either pre- and post-introduction of the aP vaccine or comparing deaths in countries using different vaccines. But even then reporting rates at different times and in different countries may bias results. What is clear is that there is definitely a trade-off between reduced vaccine-related morbidity and increased whooping cough-related morbidity and mortality and it may be more prudent to, instead of blaming unvaccinated pregnant mothers for the recent outbreak, to switch back to the more effective wP vaccine before we start to return to pre-1950 levels of whooping cough in the U.K.
Dr. Maggie Cooper is a pharmacist and research scientist.
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An interesting piece, I think the issue the vaxx industry has it has lost credibility calling useless flu and COVID shots vaccines. Plus the program for kids has run wild with many unnecessary ones added. A rationalisation of the child vaccine program is desperately needed to restore some faith in it.
For the Sceptics amongst the population restoring ‘faith’ in the vaccine program will be nigh on impossible.
And rightly so.
Not necessarily Hux. Root and branch reform carried out by someone like Carl henegham running it could well restore faith. However, at this point I have no faith whatsoever in the NHS, any institution and especially any political party other than Reform. Reform are an exception because they haven’t lied to me. Yet.
Very profitable for big pharma – 10 vaccinations for children now in the UK. What is it doing to their endocrine and hormone systems too.
Nope. It is ten injections. But a lot more vaccines – death or a lifetime’s chronic health issues in a syringe – keep them on their inhalers and allergy drugs and of course cripple the NHS and education budgets with the cost of over 7% of the UK’s school age boys being autistic.
And no, that is not misinformation. The science is there – it is just kept well buried by pharma and their supporters in Whitehall and government.
Ask yourself why is it that over the past decade or so specialist schools for autistic kids have been springing up all over the country.
Cases of measles made the headlines a month or so ago, again, vaccine hesitancy blamed. But look at the detail & you see that in 2008 & 2009 we had over 5,000 cases & in 2013 over 6,000 cases, higher numbers than we’ve seen this year.
Yeah I’m undecided really. Is vaccination of well nourished babies an over reaction to a miniscule risk. No doubt a baby can be perfectly healthy without vaccination at all. My mother in the 70s didn’t vaccinate my older brother against measles who got quite ill but recovered just fine. As a result I was jabbed to the hilt.
My guess is that the answer is not at either extreme. Some vaccines are worth having, but adding more and more to the regimen can overload a young immune system and the accumulation of adjuvants and preservative can damage the nervous system. We need to establish the virtuous mean.
We must be kept in a constant state of medical emergency and on alert; imminent terror pathogen is waiting to strike – only vaccines can save us!
Give generously to your local pharmaceutical company.
Interestingly, there was another outbreak of Whooping cough at the Dartmouth Hitchcock medical centre in 2006.
Why is this significant?
It’s to do with Whooping cough (pertussis) but it’s real significance is with Covid 19.
This episode may well represent a blueprint for what was to happen with the Covid 19 ‘virus’ outbreak in 2020.
If correct then the mind blowing implication is that Covid 19 could have been an outbreak of global medical hysteria over an imaginary virus.
As an added bonus it showed the PCR to be, not just inaccurate but 0% accurate!
At Dartmouth Hitchcock an outbreak of Whooping cough apparently began at the hospital. Clinicians and other staff were having distinct Whooping Cough symptoms and the PCR showed 142 confirmed cases at the centre.
The hospital went into lockdown, staff were furloughed, ICU beds put aside, antibiotics and vaccines given in the hope of containing the outbreak (sound familiar?)
Because Whooping cough is a bacteria there was a confirmatory test available to double check the infected samples found by the PCR.
Let’s not forget, at this point, there is no confirmatory test for Covid because it’s a virus, not a bacteria,
This was culture testing which allowed the samples to be grown in a petri dish to see the evidence of the Bordetella pertussis bacteria found at the hospital.
What was stunning was that NOT A SINGLE POSITIVE SAMPLE WAS FOUND!
The implication was that there was no pertussis outbreak at the centre and, therefore, the PCR was completely wrong.
To make it even worse this was a bacteria, theoretically, much easier to isolate, extract the gnome and ‘calibrate’ the PCR to a very high degree of accuracy and yet it failed spectacularly.
This episode is what’s known as a pseudo epidemic, in other words an epidemic over an imaginary illness.
The mind blowing implication from this episode is that maybe the world has just witnessed the first global pseudo pandemic.
In other words the possibility that Covid 19 was a (pseudo) pandemic over an imaginary virus!
See link for full article:
https://www.bleadon.org.uk/media/other/24400/FaithinQuickTestLeadstoEpidemicThatWasnt-TheNewYorkTimes.pdf
None of this is news to DS subscribers.
Oh really?
This blows your ‘plandemic’ theory out of the water, doesn’t it?
No wonder you’re p***** off.
Not really – any combination of a manufactured imaginary, lethal, or less-lethal-than-hoped pathogen, combined with excessive and unreliable testing, harmful public health measures universally applied, ineffective and harmful treatments and the demonisation of effective ones could, and has, done major harm.
That doesn’t for certain distinguish between “cock-up” (plankdemic) and “malevolence” (plandemic), but the experience of the pertussis pseudemic, the bird flu vaccine debacle and so on does tend to make one suspect that lessons were learned for future application.
Nah just a massive coincidence it happened in 2020 and was pushed massively by the 3 letter agencies. I don’t think they meant for it go as far as it did, fundamentally I think they just wanted mail in ballot voting in order to rig elections. What better tool than a flu plus virus that kills some old ppl. Everything else was a plan running wildly out of control/opportunism.
But where did the Jabathon come from then ?
Why?
Explain what these ‘elites’ had to gain in 2019?
They had wealth, power, control, influence, everything dictators would want, They had us all dancing to their tune over climate change, remember and whatever they said, went.
Yet we’re supposed to believe they all got together, from around the globe, to plan and coordinate the release of a pathetically mild virus that can be cured by a Lemsip?
All they had achieved was put at risk over this stupid hare brained scheme that has made them lose almost everything and gain nothing but ridicule and scrutiny?
It’s beyond ridiculous and I think, deep down, all these skeptics on here know the motivation for a plandemic collapses under any scrutiny.
I love it. I’m nicking that phrase!
What just happened
I’m with all you fellow sceptics but can I ask ( I have before , soz ) “What” did myself & family have in July/ August 2021 which in varying degrees laid us low with no taste & smell
People have short memories but I remember in early 2020, working on an Ambulance, the first ‘unique’ symptom of Covid was a cough.
All forgotten about that symptom, haven’t we?
Everyone at that time, at the very start, was reporting a cough as the main symptom and I was seeing patients with dry coughs, incessant coughs, intermittent coughs, productive coughs, you name the type of cough, these first Covid ‘victims’ had it.
But that symptom went out of fashion very quickly and the new ‘unique’ symptom was replaced by a loss of taste and smell.
From this new second wave of Covid patients we were seeing, with apparent Anosmia, not a single one was coughing.
Strange isn’t it?
Until we realise these symptoms are not unique and largely psychosomatic.
The Doctors tell you Covid causes you to cough and you have a positive PCR, guess what happens? You start to cough!
The Doctors tell you Covid causes you to lose your sense of taste and smell and you have a positive PCR, guess what happens? You start to lose your sense of taste and smell!
It’s all down to confirmation bias, psychosomatic illness combined with a large dollop of symptoms from existing illnesses like a cold.
In short Freddy Boy, you had a cold but your mind told you it was a deadly new virus called Covid 19.
My London based daughter had a bad cold/flu very early on long before loss of taste/smell had been reported in the press and long before PCR testing was commonly available. She experienced a long term loss of taste and smell that only made sense much later when it became a commonly reported symptom. The rest of the family had unusually bad cold/flu symptoms multiple times over the following two years and only one experienced loss of taste/smell. I have seen no clear evidence of confirmation bias in my direct experience of friends and family.
Oh no! Not chintz curtains?
Sorry.
Seriously, you probably had the damn bug. Lots of people did. It was the sort of thing that could ‘see off’ the vulnerable. The lockdowns and vaccines did bugger-all good.
“Because Whooping cough is a bacteria there was a confirmatory test available to double check the infected samples found by the PCR.
Let’s not forget, at this point, there is no confirmatory test for Covid because it’s a virus, not a bacteria…”
Whooping Cough and Coronavirus disease (clue in the name) are diseases not pathogens. CoVid is caused by the SARS COV 2 virus.
A differential diagnosis for viral infections is possible by testing for antibodies in a blood sample.
PCR is not a diagnostic test for anything – it is for lab work only. It is a ‘molecular copying’ process for tiny amounts of DNA to give a sample big enough to be observed and identified.
Having fragments of virus in the body does not mean the disease it causes is active or that there are whole, active viruses present.
This is why the ‘pandemic’ was in fact a ‘testdemic’. Disease was being diagnosed from presence of viral fragments, and not confirmed by serology.
Sorry to rain on your ‘theory’: what you report was standard procedure known for centuries and not the blueprint for the Covid nonsense.
The golden rule is do not allow infectious people to mix with non-infected people.
The proper procedure therefore to deal with a possible outbreak of a disease, is isolate in-situ those with the disease and those who have been or might have been in contact. Get confirmation of the causal pathogen.
Vaccinate, if a vaccine is available, those in quarantine not showing signs and symptoms, treat the affected and contacts with medication as appropriate; vaccinate people in the surrounding area. (Cross your fingers and hope you have contained it.)
That is not the same as isolating an entire population most of whom do not have the disease then vaccinating everyone at random once the virus is actively circulating – both these things are contraindicated.
The Covid vax is designed to injure slowly. I’m certainly coming round to that likelihood.
Re the figure 1 graph, classifying something as something different and tweaking the statistics has become quite common recently, a cynic might say. But another reclassification is the definition of what a compound’s functionality is in such a way that it can be defined as a vaccine at all. Anyway, the complexity of the problem demonstrates that the use of Emergency Use Authorization on a large scale for any such product was inappropriate, for any such product. Safe and Effective; or maybe not, if one is honest.
If the vaccine prevents infants dying from whooping cough, it doesn’t necessarily mean that the vaccine is the only way of preventing infants dying from whooping cough.
Okay, fine, I get the idea but the author has not addressed the ginormous elephant: uncontrolled immigration.
“In countries such as Brazil, India and China where the wP vaccine continues to be used” where is the mass immigration? There is none, most want to get out not get in.
“Some countries, such as the USA, Australia and several European countries all introduced the aP vaccine somewhere between the late 1990s and early 2000s”, what happened in all of those countries, pretty much every country in Europe and the Disjointed Dysfunctional Kingdom? I doubt I need to say it.
Most of those immigrants come from backward, hell hole countries where clean water is a luxury and a vaccine is a test jab from America that was banned in America. HIV jabs for example and most of you know the story of that one, well, you would if you read Kennedy’s book.
It seems to me when you are looking for a cause you have to look for what is different and what is common amongst the issue countries. Sure, they changed the vaccine but it is the other factor that is common which is far more likely.
That’s my line of thinking , how can you have all these required jabs for the indigenous peoples when everyday a new boatload ( if you’ll pardon the pun ) of unknown entities Cross your borders, bringing possibilities of every disease known to mankind since time began ! Either there are dangerous infections or there are not any ! So it’s jab jab jab then , ooh – look behind you – oh F- ck
Exactly.
Migrant health and infectious diseases in the UK: findings from the last 10 years of surveillance | Journal of Public Health | Oxford Academic (oup.com)
“Results
South Asia was the most common region of birth for TB and enteric fever cases (57 and 80% of migrant cases, respectively). Sub-Saharan Africa was the predominant region of birth for HIV in heterosexuals and malaria cases (80 and 75% of migrant cases, respectively). The majority of cases of TB, HIV in heterosexuals, malaria and enteric fever reported in the UK are migrants. Among UK-born cases, ethnic minorities are disproportionately represented.
Conclusions
This analysis highlights the importance of considering, and improving the recording of, country of birth as a risk factor for infection.”
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The explosion of sepsis cases in the UK, as well as the importation of millions of “Symptomless Carriers” of Meningitis from the Indian Subcontinent and “The African Meningitis Belt” has also been disastrous for the West.
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Burden of Sepsis in India – CHEST (chestnet.org)
A new vaccine will change the balance of the fight against meningitis (who.int)
“Bacterial meningitis can be the most lethal and is an infection of the membranes surrounding the brain and spinal cord. The meningitis belt is a geographical region in sub-Saharan Africa particularly prone to seasonal meningitis epidemics, and the area carries the highest burden of the disease globally. The belt covers 26 countries stretching from Senegal in west Africa to Ethiopia in the east.”
I highly recommend reading the book “Dissolving Illusions – Disease, Vaccines and the Forgotten History”, written by Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk. It is a long read – 500 pages – but you will never ever take another vaccine if you do read it.
Essentially, the book points out that the human body has a magnificent immune system and, historically, most serious diseases (including whooping cough) disappeared with improvement in hygiene (clean drinking water, sewage treatment) and good nutrition. It shows that vaccines against specific diseases never positively reduced illness but were always introduced after the effects of improved hygiene and nutrition had already reduced susceptibility to the disease.
The book devotes 44 pages to whooping cough and states, for example, in England and Wales “the death rate from whooping cough had dropped by more than 99% before the use of the vaccine”, which began nationally in 1957. Also, “although there was a dramatic decline in vaccination rates in England in the mid-1970s to mid-1980s, there was not an increase in the number of deaths”.
One major problem with the specific vaccines against whooping cough was, and is, encephalopathy – brain damage. Consider the author’s text in the DS article:
… Most of the [vaccine] side-effects were non-serious such as fever, redness, swelling at the injection site and persistent crying, but there were concerns about more serious side-effects such as febrile seizures and encephalopathy …
… These data are more difficult to tease out, but it seems that, although minor side-effects such as fever, redness and swelling at the injection site occur more often with the wP vaccine than with the aP vaccine, deaths from the wP vaccine are rare (mainly related to allergic reactions) … It is very difficult to get reliable figures as adverse events and deaths from vaccines are poorly reported and a more in-depth study would be required …
And, please excuse me, but this is the typical attitude of doctors regarding vaccines: if you are really unlucky, you may die or suffer permanent brain damage but, otherwise, vaccines are good.
In this report, Vernon Coleman also discusses whooping cough vaccines: https://expose-news.com/2024/05/14/whooping-cough-vaccination-a-story-of-dishonesty/.
Numerous researchers have studied the risks of brain damage following whooping cough vaccination and their results make fascinating reading. Between 1960 and 1981, for example, nine reports were published showing that the risk of brain damage varied between one in 6,000 and one in 100,000. The average was a risk of one in 50,000. It is clear from these figures that the Government simply chose the figure [one in 100,000] which showed the whooping cough vaccine to be least risky.
Although the British Government consistently claims that whooping cough is a dangerous disease, the figures show that it is not the indiscriminate killer it is made out to be. Whooping cough causes very few deaths a year in Britain. Many more deaths are caused by tuberculosis and meningitis.
The truth about the whooping cough vaccine is that it has, in the past, been a disaster. The vaccine has been withdrawn in some countries because of the amount of brain damage associated with its use …
The final nail in the coffin lid is the fact that the British Government quietly paid out compensation to the parents of hundreds of children who had been brain-damaged by the whooping cough vaccine. Some parents who accepted damages in the early years were given £10,000. Later the sum was raised to £20,000.
Great comment, thank you so much! A couple of queries/points: Do you have a reference in the book to “the death rate from whooping cough had dropped by more than 99% before the use of the vaccine”? Also, the extract from VC’s book contains a typo: the compensation sum is now £120,000 – still a derisory sum for those (like my close relative) who have been in care for over 50 years as a result of the whooping cough vaccine.
Sorry for the delay in answering. I only accidentally looked here again and saw your comment.
Thank you for the comment on the compensation payments. I did think the 20,000 was a very low number and, of course, £120,000 at today’s value for a lifelong complaint is also clearly too little.
The Dissolving Illusions book references this paper, which unfortunately is not cost-free: https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/81/6/933/55266/Report-of-the-Task-Force-on-Pertussis-and
(The book is cheaper!)
Dissolving Illusions refers to the document “Historical Statistics of the United States Colonial Times to 1957”, referenced by the above paper, as well as “Another document from the CDC” for data from 1970 onwards. Then, “Using the authors’ reference documents, it is clear that the most marked decline in deaths from whooping cough occurred before the introduction of the vaccine in the late 1940s … fallen by approximately 92% before the vaccine was in widespread use …”
Dissolving Illusions then states “Data from England and Wales is even more impressive, showing that the death rate from whooping cough had dropped by more than 99% before the use of the vaccine” but without providing a source. It shows the corresponding graph but without a reference. Otherwise references are all over the place.
The fact that the data are for England and Wales indicates to me that the ONS (ons.gov.uk) could be the source, since mortality data are always for the two countries, whereas the Scottish and Northern Ireland statistics offices create their own data. I have just Googled around trying to find something, but it is 2am and I need to retire for the night! May I leave that search to you?
I have now searched a little on the ONS website. I ended up on their archive, where you can do a search for “Pertussis”, which I narrowed to include “mortality”, “series” and “excel”. The result is numerous “avoidabledeathsunderlyingcause …” files for any year: when you look inside, Pertussis, as cause of death, is always zero (to be fair, for the few files I checked). The first page of the excel file lists contact details for the “Mortality team, Life Events and Population Sources Division” at Office for National Statistics, Government Buildings, Cardiff Road, Newport, Gwent NP10 8XG. Tel: 01633 455341, e-mail: mortality@ons.gsi.gov.uk
I imagine the authors of Dissolving Illusions just contacted them and arranged to be sent the pertussis mortality data for the past 100 years, for which I presume they were charged a small sum. Otherwise, further searching their data may achieve something, but the archive did not seem to go back very far.
Hope that helps!
Archive website: https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search/result/?q=pertussis&mime=Excel&include=mortality&include=series
Hi, sorry not to have seen all your further work in response to my question earlier (only just found out how to get alerted to replies) thank you so much! I’ve got what I needed from Iconoclast to reference my comment the other day, one of the newest in this thread. I did email the DS to ask that they post a response article to the original article by Dr Cooper, but haven’t had a reply
“I did email the DS to ask that they post a response article”
You will likely get more success if you suggest to DS you will write it for DS.
I effectively did that, I’ll follow up and be clearer that I’m offering.
The 20th Century Mortality files are found here:
https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ukgwa/20150908090558/http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/publications/re-reference-tables.html?edition=tcm%3A77-215593
But you need to be highly computer literate or very patient.
The tables are for all causes of mortality by primary and secondary cause of death, year, sex, age ranges etc and are grouped according the the ICD revision in effect at the time the statistics were compiled.
You need to know how to join data tables and then search the tables.
Ideally it is best to create a database in Paradox or Access or one of the relational database platforms and then do searches on the data using something like SQL.
Thank you so much. I was just trying to help Steve. I did not see your below inputs until later. I assume he now has everything he wanted. Have a good evening.
I can help him much more.
I did provide a temporary email address for him to contact me on but heard nothing:
20240522steve@objectmail.com
I did email Iconoclast and we had a long, v. interesting chat. He’s a fantastic source of data!
If fewer children are being vaccinated, whose fault is that?
The wP vaccine was withdrawn because of relatively few adverse cases, no fatalities, no long term harm, and the possibility of more serious side effects was considered enough to withdraw it and replace it with another product.
mRNA – many thousands of fatalities and harmful and long term side effects but still being peddled as safe & effective.
What’s wrong with this picture?
Not sure about UK, but two infants died within 24h of the vaccination in Japan in 1974-75 which prompted the Japanese government to temporarily suspend whole-cell vaccinations due to the public backlash and then introduce the acellular vaccine in 1981, well before any other country.
Of course, your main point is completely justified!
The good old adjuvants in the TDP (Tetanus, Diptheria and Pertussis) vaccine are, – drum roll – aluminium phosphate, formaldehyde and phenoxyethanol.
What I wonder, does an infant’s immune system make of that?
Here’s what –
http://vaccinepapers.org/
Dr Paul Offit, the USA’s answer to our Dr Hilary comes in for a degree of criticism.
Very important research by Dr. Maggie Cooper. People may also be interested in the following historical research, which describes how an Indian doctor successfully introduced a simple, effective treatment for whooping cough in the Herat epidemic of 15th century Persia:
“At last, an Indian physician ordered people to eat a mithkal [1 mithkal is about 4·6 g] or more of raw ginger dissolved in warm water. Most were cured with this treatment”
Emergence of whooping cough: notes from three early epidemics in Persia – PMC (nih.gov)
Maybe raw ginger in hot water is more effective than any modern vaccine…
But there may be serious side effects with ginger if you consume 1,000 times the stated dose…
I understand I was vaccinated against whooping cough as an infant, I guess in the late 60’s. But I still caught it. One of my earliest memories is the night light in the sick room. However, I survived, so “Thank goodness I had the jab,” eh.
The case figures aren’t expressed as a percentage and our population has increased by tens of millions.
Cases don‘t matter. It‘s deaths that matter
Bettina’s point hold for both.
Thank you. Very interesting.
I‘m confused. I couldn’t find the death data in the article for post 2004 when a different vaccine was used (other than the latest 2024 ones). Were there none?
See table 5 which gives figures up to 2019 but 2020/21 are confused by COVID, you can also look on the PHE or ONS websites for more recent details https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5ea6bd4ee90e0704955ec5eb/Laboratory_confirmed_cases_of_pertussis_in_England_2019.pdf
Dear Dr Cooper,
As a worried Granny, I really appreciate your article. Awakened by the Covid vaccine scandal, I’m sure many people are looking for this kind of nuanced guidance. We know that some vaccines are life-saving, some are unnecessary, and that combining and accumulating many vaccines may cause irreparable damage. We also know, with extra reason after the report from the contaminated blood inquiry, that the medical establishment sometimes lies to us. Parents, families and individuals need vaccine-by-vaccine advice to make their own informed decisions.
Keep it coming!
Has it been confirmed that all of the infant cases of whooping cough are from mothers who have not had the whooping cough vaccine. Or could it be that the mothers have had a whooping cough vaccine but have also had the Covid 19 vaccine while pregnant and this has affected the immune system of these babies. I am very sceptical of these tap water illnesses happening around the country. What has made the immune systems of people around the country suddenly not strong enough to fight these tap water pathogens? Less of a broken filter – more of broken immune systems?
“Since the introduction of pertussis vaccination in pregnancy, from 2013 to the end of March 2024, there have been 26 deaths in babies with confirmed pertussis who were all too young to be fully protected by infant vaccination. Sadly, this includes 5 deaths in infants who had contracted pertussis in the first quarter of 2024. Of the 26 infants that died, 21 had mothers who were not vaccinated in pregnancy. Calculated vaccine effectiveness against infant death in those who received vaccine at least 7 days before delivery was 92% (UKHSA unpublished data)” https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/pertussis-epidemiology-in-england-2024/confirmed-cases-of-pertussis-in-england-by-month
When I was pregnant in the 80s, pregnant women were told not to have vaccines as they might adversely affect the foetus. In fact any pharmaceuticals were frowned upon unless they were necessary for the health of the mother.
When did it all change?
When the health service completed the sell-out to the pharmaceutical industry
In fact it was when the medical professions sold out to the pharmaceutical industry over 100 years ago.
And doctors these days are IMHO the least competent medical practitioners in history when it comes to treating disease.
Their knowledge is the equivalent of knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing.
For example, despite diet being extremely important for cancer patients if you are a cancer patient you don’t get any advice on diet.
If a cancer patient for example eats foods high in iron, iron will massively accelerate the growth of tumour cells.
Similarly it has been known for nearly 100 years that refined sugars feed cancer cells.
Additionally, if you are a shallow breather you are likely to have acidity in your body because of the unexpired carbonic acid – CO3 ions – in your body whereas your body needs to have a slightly alkaline pH for its cells to function properly.
Cancer cells however thrive in an oxygen poor acidic environment.
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How did all this come to be? This is what happened in the USA and the same has been happening ever since all around the world – it is institutionalised corruption in healthcare so much so that you are taking a huge chance with your health if you trust your doctor.
In about 1910 John D. Rockefeller commissioned the Flexner Report. This was part of Rockefeller’s goal to dominate the oil, chemical, and pharmaceutical markets. His company, Standard Oil of New Jersey, purchased a controlling interest in the monolithic German drug and chemical company I.G. Farben [which also heavily supported the Nazi regime, down to supplying Zyklon B to annihilate Jewish people and other ‘undesirables‘ in concentration camps].
In other words, Rockefeller had no scruples when it came to murder for money.
Rockefeller needed to “re-educate” the US medical professions to prescribe more pharmaceutical drugs. Abraham Flexner was hired to travel the country and supposedly “assess” the success of American medical schools.
The results of his study were predetermined.
The gist of the report was most medical schools were not teaching sound medicine. In other words, they weren’t pushing enough drugs.
Flexner reported that it was necessary to install a “doorkeeper” to determine which medical schools were allowed through the “medical door” and which ones must remain outside.
The report was presented to Congress, and the recommendations were made law.
The American Medical Association, the US doctors’ trades union, became the new doorkeeper and was empowered to determine which medical schools were properly following the standards of conventional medicine and which ones were not.
The predetermined purpose of the Flexner Report was to label doctors who didn’t prescribe drugs as “charlatans” and “quacks.” Medical schools that offered courses in natural therapies and homeopathy were told to either drop these courses from their curriculum or lose their accreditation. The total number of accredited medical schools in the USA was cut in half between 1910 and 1944.
The end result of the Flexner Report was that all accredited US medical schools became heavily oriented toward drugs and drug research.
Rockefeller’s plan was a smashing success, and conflicts of interest between Big Pharma and Big Medicine continue to this day.
In his book, “Cancer‐Gate: How to Win The Losing Cancer War”, Dr. Samuel Epstein demonstrates that over the past century, the ACS, NCI, and AMA have all become corroded with major institutional and personal conflicts of interest with Big Pharma.
[SOURCE: Chapter 1 Cancer – Step Outside the Box, Ty Bollinger]
The public is fed misinformation about pertussis as can be seen from the attached graph. This is to justify vaccination programmes and to prevent the need for the development of a whooping cough pill which is long overdue because children could avoid all the adverse effects of the vaccines which are highly under-reported.
It was not the vaccines which reduced whooping cough. It attenuated naturally over two centuries as wealth increased along with better sanitation, clean drinking water and nutrition.
Notice from the graph that the curve smooths after 1948 when school milk, meals and the NHS was introduced.
There is no scientific evidence the vaccines did anything.
Improvements in public health clearly have the most important impact but I’m not sure I totally agree with you. Cases go up and down as you would expect and there was definitely a downward trend before the introduction of the vaccine but it still looks like it had an impact. This data is from the CDC (try not to be too sceptical) but shows the impact of the vaccine. https://www.cdc.gov/pertussis/php/surveillance/?CDC_AAref_Val=https://www.cdc.gov/pertussis/surv-reporting.html
These are CASES, whereas Iconoclast’s graph is DEATHS. Given the severe adverse effects (deaths and disabilities requiring lifelong care) even at low incidence, the most important data is not cases, but deaths and lifelong disabilities. I guess there isn’t any data available for the latter, so what we have to go on is deaths – even that is very difficult to find data on – I wonder why?
Steve you are correct about deaths.
Deaths were the measure used in public reporting for decades until there weren’t any – and that cannot be because of vaccines.
Notice runmaggierun’s figures are also US figures.
And they only start in 1922 whereas McKeown’s figures show the overall picture going back 150 years or more.
Cases are notoriously over reported depending on whether there is an epidemic or not. It is different for laboratory confirmed cases – except during Covid some labs were producing bizarre wildly inaccurate figures.
When deaths are used as the measure of morbidity there is no mistaking a dead body.
Doctors can mistake measles for roseola for example. In the UK over-reporting of measles can be high.
In general over-diagnosis during an epidemic is lowest at 4-5 false alarms for every real case. At other times over-diagnosis and reporting of cases can be many times higher.
Good point and great find! I’m writing a detailed response to Dr Cooper’s article – do you have a link I can use to reference this graph? I can see search references to McKeown T “The role of medicine” but just to a book which isn’t available online – does he attribute the data?
Lots of graphs here – not by McKeown though – wait to let the page load and the link will automatically take you to the pertussis graphs
WHOOPING COUGH (PERTUSSIS) MORTALITY – UK, USA & Australia
The data sources are stated on three of the four pertussis graphs.
The page has a great deal of data with peer reviewed journal paper references.
The video near the beginning is stunning by Professor Hans Rosling – it shows how health improved in step with wealth over the last 200 years “200 countries over 200 years using 120,000 numbers – in just four minutes“
This is absolutely fantastic, thank you so much! I think the graph that breaks out infant deaths is the most relevant as that is where the vaccination efforts are focused yet there is no perceptible change to the rate of infant deaths before and after vaccination was introduced in 1957. That is when my close relative was vaccinated for whooping cough: immediately after the second dose, he regressed from being a normal 9 month old baby doing all the normal things to crying constantly, head banging and no longer verbalising or crawling. He has been in care since his early teens when his parents were no longer able to look after him and has a mental age of c. 3 – he cannot communicate effectively and needs 24/7 care.
BTW, Hans Rosling’s video is no longer available on iPlayer but here is a YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm5xF-UYgdg
Just so other can see the infant mortality graph you mention here it is.
And the diphtheria graph is more illuminating as it has the relevant dates when free school milk, school meals and the NHS began.
Also, the data for both graphs is available from ONS.
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The only reference I can find by McKeown relating to whooping cough is this one https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC478947/pdf/brjprevsmed00022-0033.pdf. So I think that the graph is from a book and refers to somebody else’s data. In this linked paper by McKeown they are actually looking at whether neurological complications of the disease impact intelligence but it is quite inconclusive as social factors influence this too much. It is interesting to note that the major side effects of concern with the wP vaccine were the neurological ones and these definitely did occur but they also occurred with the disease itself (hence the McKeown paper that is linked above but also see the summary of this paper from 1948 https://www.jpeds.com/article/S0022-3476(48)80245-3/abstract which is interesting because it is from a specific clinic and quantifies morbidity and mortality quite nicely but this is from 1948 and we do have more effective treatments nowadays).
On the question of vaccine safety and deaths from the wP vaccine, this is from IMMUNIZATION AGAINST WHOOPING COUGH: A NEUROPATHOLOGICAL REVIEW Corsellis, Janota and Marshall in Neuropathology and Applied Neurobiology July 1983 The neuropathological aspects of vaccination against pertussis have been analysed. This has been done partly by considering the previous literature and partly by searching for data on any child whose death since 1960 has been thought to have a possible relationship to the vaccination. Twenty-nine in due course were identified on whom a post-mortem examination had been made. Eighteen had died within 3 weeks of inoculation – the remaining eleven had survived the initial illness but had remained retarded, epileptic and disabled. Although a variety of cerebral abnormalities were found, neither those recorded in the present study nor those abstracted from previous case reports, have demonstrated a recurring pattern of inflammatory or other damage which could be accepted as a specific reaction to immunization against whooping cough. Those reactive changes that were occasionally found appear to be indistinguishable from those seen in many other infantile encephalopathies occurring as the result of a hypoxic/ischaemic state supervening on a complex of respiratory complications, fever and convulsions. Unfortunately I can’t access the whole paper to look in more detail at the data but this is clear evidence of at least 29 deaths from vaccination over a 20 year period.
In terms of vaccination, each individual has to decide if they want to risk harm to their own child from the vaccine or not have the vaccine and risk harm from the disease because they didn’t have immunity (supposing the vaccine is effective). You could also throw in there whether you feel that there is a responsibility to the community as a whole to vaccinate (again supposing that the vaccine is actually effective). It’s a balance of risks.
What I worry about more is that, seeing that cases are rising after introduction of the aP vaccine, they will introduce a 3rd generation Pertussis vaccine which will be an mRNA vaccine! Perhaps it’s a case of “better the devil you know”.
The daily skeptic article doesn’t advocate use of the vaccine per se (that wouldn’t be very skeptical!) but just points out that the rise isn’t because mothers aren’t getting vaccinated but seems to be related to the switch to a different vaccine.
The source of the graph is written on it.
McKeown T, The Role of Medicine, 1979, Princeton University Press, p103
(Thomas McKeown was Professor of Social Medicine Emeritus at the Birmingham
University and past chairman of the WHO advisory group on health research strategies)
The only source of vaccination data covering the periods concerned would be official records.
The book is only available on the internet archive for ‘patrons with print disabilities’ which I assume to mean is their browser cannot print the book.
I don’t know how to set that up but if you do then you may be able to see the graph on page 103.
https://archive.org/details/roleofmedicinedr0000mcke/mode/1up
I didn’t get the covid vaccine in part due to experience in 1990’s of my daughter’s reactions to DPT /Hib vaccines and the absolute denial of the clinic that it was caused by the vaccine. I did get covid, was laid very low for a couple of days and loss and change of taste, quite weird. So glad I refused it. There seems a lot of ill health at large and sudden deaths. Look what’s happened to the royal family since the jabs…
“Look what’s happened to the royal family since the jabs…”
From memory – and I could be wrong – but didn’t a journalist – possibly Telegraph – write about that very point?
And there has been a lot of concern expressed about turbo cancers and other cancers since the Covid jabs but I don’t have a specific scientific reference to hand or scientist’s assessment to quote for that.
Dr Cooper, doesn’t this omit the protection we/ mothers get from naturally acquired immunity? Also, much like the covid jabs, the pertussis jab doesn’t prevent infection and transmission from what I’ve read?
The aP vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission and immunity wears off quite quickly. That really seems to be the problem. The wP vaccine seems to offer protection against infection and transmission from my understanding during most of childhood, where the disease is likely to cause more severe complications and death. I also thought the same as you about natural immunity and wondered whether the mothers of the babies affected were immunised or not. I presumed that the data wouldn’t be available if it showed that the babies of vaccinated mothers were affected but it seems that unfortunately, the majority of cases were in babies of unvaccinated mothers (I think that information is either from PHE or ONS) – probably still wouldn’t persuade me to get vaccinated though, who knows the long-term affects on the children?! I was really just annoyed that they seemed to be blaming the mothers when that wasn’t really the reason for the problem.
Until they use the same testing rigour with vaccines as they do with other pharmaceuticals i.e. randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials, and analyse all health outcomes (not just the disease which is being vaccinated against) over decades, I think we should be sceptical about the benefits of any vaccination.
The author references case numbers but given the severe adverse effects from either type of pertussis vaccine (deaths and disabilities requiring lifelong care) even at low incidence, the most important data is not cases (from which nearly all patients recover fully), but deaths and lifelong disabilities.
I can’t find any data for disabilities, but 20th century deaths from whooping cough are shown in the graph attached (sourced by Iconoclast). This demonstrates that the decline in whooping cough mortality was part of a general trend rather than vaccination. The overall context is the relationship between mortality and wealth over the last 200 years as pointed out by Iconoclast in the comments below.
Even if whooping cough vaccination is to be retained, reverting to the whole-cell vaccine would be a huge mistake. It isn’t just “the USA, Australia and several European countries” in which the acellular version was introduced – according to Aaron Siri’s letter to the UN Special Rapporteur the entire developed world uses the acellular vaccine whereas large parts of the developing world uses the whole cell vaccine, which is because UNICEF continues to purchase, promote and distribute DTP to developing nations.
The whole-cell vaccine had so many severe adverse effects that a public backlash led to suspension of it in Japan and much lower take-up in the UK and US:
(https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15889991/).
To illustrate why the public were so against the whole-cell vaccine, we can reference two studies published in 2015 and 2017:
A naturally randomised study which examined the introduction of DTP in an urban community in Guinea-Bissau in the early 1980s showed that “children receiving DTP in the first 6 months of life died at 10 times the rate of those children who received no vaccines in the first 6 months of life“. (P. Aaby et. al., The Introduction of Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis and Oral Polio Vaccine Among Young Infants in an Urban African Community: A Natural Experiment https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28188123)
“Although having better nutritional status and being protected against three infections, 6-35 months old DTP-vaccinated children tended to have higher mortality than DTP-unvaccinated children. All studies of the introduction of DTP have found increased overall mortality.” (P. Aaby, et.al., Evidence of Increase in Mortality After the Introduction of Diphtheria–Tetanus–Pertussis Vaccine to Children Aged 6–35 Months in Guinea-Bissau: A Time for Reflection? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5868131/pdf/fpubh-06-00079.pdf)
“It is very difficult to get reliable figures as adverse events and deaths from vaccines are poorly reported and a more in-depth study would be required to look into this in more detail comparing vaccination deaths either pre- and post-introduction of the aP vaccine or comparing deaths in countries using different vaccines.”
There is useful scientific information from published studies in the New York Times best seller “Vax-Unvax: Let the Science Speak. The Studies the CDC Refuses to Do” Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Brian Hooker
This book is based on over one hundred studies in the peer-reviewed literature that consider vaccinated versus unvaccinated populations. Each study is analyzed, and health differences among infants, children, and adults who have been vaccinated and those who have not are presented and put in context. Readers will find information on:
Given the massive push to vaccinate the entire global population, this book is timely and necessary for individuals to make informed choices for themselves and their families.