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Pull Down Covid-Era Signs That Are a Reminder of the “Futility and Madness” of Lockdown, Scientists Tell Government

by Will Jones
18 May 2024 1:00 PM

Scientists and MPs have demanded that all remaining Covid warning signs are removed because they serve only to remind the public of the “futility and madness” of restrictions. The Telegraph has more.

Pandemic scientists and MPs have called for a national campaign to remove the remaining posters, stickers and loudspeaker announcements from GP surgeries, train stations and supermarkets.

Prof Karol Sikora, the oncologist, and Prof Sunetra Gupta, of Oxford University, said there was no need for them to still be in use.

More than two dozen MPs and peers have backed the idea, including senior Tories Sir Iain Duncan Smith, Sir Graham Brady and Sir John Redwood.

Covid warning signs remain widespread, from adhesive stickers on train and Tube station platforms to perspex screens covering card readers on London buses. Transport for London said it had removed the “vast majority of pandemic-related signage” and was in the process of removing the rest.

At some GP and dentists’ surgeries, posters, floor markings and automated announcements remain in use advising patients to wear face coverings and queue in a socially distanced manner.

Lidl, the discount supermarket chain, also continues to broadcast announcements asking shoppers to abide by now non-existent “Government guidance” to keep one another “safe”. It said human error was responsible.

In Parliament, a coronavirus-era “wash your hands for 20 seconds” sign was only this week removed from a lavatory.

The remnants of the pandemic remain in place 27 months on from the last Covid restrictions being lifted in February 2022.

Baroness Fox, one of the peers calling for a campaign to rid the country of Covid-era warnings, said: “During the pandemic we were faced with an endless series of patronising, condescending and ultimately draconian messages in every public space.

“It’s like a nightmare to remember it, but actually it’s very hard to forget it because in many public spaces those messages prevail.

“The reluctance to remove all signs of that shameful episode indicates we have not quite got to grips with how disastrous it was for society. I want us to scrap all of them.” …

Prof [David] Livermore also suggested that a museum could be put together, quipping that it could be called the “museum of Covid futility, failures and – as with vaccine passports – petty fascism”.

“The signs remind us of the scoundrels and zealots who imposed such rules on us, causing so much collateral damage – debt, wasted years and wrecked educations, old folks who died alone,” he said.

Worth reading in full.

Tags: COVID-19Karol SikoraLockdownPandemic APPGProf David LivermoreProfessor Sunetra GuptaSocial distancing

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago

I used to find these remnants irritating but on reflection I would rather they stayed as a reminder of what happened. I am not going to forget any of it, neither do I want to, but all the covidians I know seem to have forgotten it completely. It’s never mentioned.

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soundofreason
soundofreason
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Maybe I should have read the comments and more than the headline before reacting.

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DHJ
DHJ
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Quite a collection of politicians, civil servants, scientists, academics and so on are the cause and now a reminder. It would be good if they didn’t stay and were moved to a specialised ‘museum’ that has restricted access to the permanently housed exhibits.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  DHJ

I’d be in favour of the politicians being moved to a museum.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Permanently.

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psychedelia smith
psychedelia smith
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Absolutely. Lest we forget the most evil political pantomime in modern history.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

I had the book Pseudo Pandemic by Iain Davis, it has a yellow and red cover just like those signs. A mate saw that and he said those yellow & red arrows give him bad memories.

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RTSC
RTSC
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

I’m finding quite a few of my acquaintances are now acknowledging that the lunacy was “a bit over the top.” Small steps are to be encouraged and I try to move them a bit further along the path to sanity.

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

all the brainwashed ones i know [ which is most of those i know] say ‘ it’s over ‘ no one cares anymore. well i do. and of course no apologies . one or two ‘you were right ‘ which was very heartwarming but now that realise was from friends who only got the shot to travel so doesn’t count.
they were never on the other side truly. the other side ones no apologies whatsoever

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Climan
Climan
1 year ago

Removing signs won’t help to convey the fundamental mathematics of lockdown, which is that it only gave a reduced, but substantially non-zero probability of catching COVID. A crude estimate may be that it extended the average period before getting COVID from 10 to 20 weeks.

Was it worth trashing the economy just to give us an extra 10 weeks before we got it?

Many people (a majority?) will continue to believe that the govt should have prevented everyone from catching COVID. No doubt this is what the so-called enquiry will conclude.

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soundofreason
soundofreason
1 year ago
Reply to  Climan

Hmm. It seems you think that lockdown successfully ‘flattened the curve’.

I don’t think that’s right or the mortality curve (for England and Wales) would not almost perfectly match a natural epidemic curve. If lockdown worked in this way the actual mortality curve would be worse before and better after the intervention took effect. It wasn’t.

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Climan
Climan
1 year ago
Reply to  soundofreason

Lockdown, given that it did trash the economy, must have had some impact on transmission, but it just reduced the effective virulence, so COVID continued as a infectious disease. It was never going to have a huge impact, given that everyone continued to go shopping and to mix in families.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Climan

It wasn’t a proper lockdown. You can’t have a country-level lockdown unless you all starve to death. They had a proper lockdown in Wuhan, supposedly, because they brought people in from outside to keep things going.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  Climan

“Lockdown, given that it did trash the economy, must have had some impact on transmission”

How exactly?

Last edited 1 year ago by huxleypiggles
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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

It delayed at best, and as Yedon said; the faster the young get immunity, the better for the elderly. They also disregarded the fact that some old people have, and also need, a social life.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  Climan

A nonsensical comment because the existence of the C1984 is very much up for debate. Are you implying that colds and ‘flu equal this mysterious C1984?

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  Climan

They are supposed to be there for guidance, nothing more. All in the Public Health Act that they used & abused.

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soundofreason
soundofreason
1 year ago

Knee-jerk reaction from me:

I’ve only read the headline. No. Leave the signs as a reminder of the arrogant stupidity of the authorities.

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David101
David101
1 year ago
Reply to  soundofreason

I disagree entirely. The problem is, the longer they remain in place the more we get used to them and accept them as normal. Weren’t we all afraid of the “new normal” of masks, “stay 2m apart” and the retarded bumping-elbows?

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  David101

Well you make a reasonable point but I don’t think many people thinks those things are “normal” – they have now conveniently forgotten it all. I don’t think those restrictions will reappear any time soon, but being reminded of them will remind people not to be so easily fooled next time.

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
1 year ago
Reply to  David101

Bang on. They act as the equivalent of the whip to a horse – a constant reminder of who’s in charge. As long as they remain so does the subjugation of the human spirit.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  David101

I was a sp!ked reader at the time in 2020. But I didn’t need an article from them or anywhere else to find the ‘New Normal’ deeply disturbing.

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sskinner
sskinner
1 year ago
Reply to  soundofreason

With a sign next to them showing the names of those that authorised them, and how much public money was spent and who authorised that.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

Seconded 👍

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David101
David101
1 year ago

To me this doesn’t even warrant discussing. The fact that a major newspaper has to introduce the idea that temporary measures (pointless as they were) have finally to be taken away, is like arguing that temporary roadworks lights should be removed once the road’s fixed. The remaining signage, screens and announcements are a bit like a row of bollards left on the road still restricting traffic flow months after the work’s been finished (with the obvious difference that they didn’t accomplish anything, and merely made life worse for the majority of us).

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
1 year ago

I say leave the signs there, precisely BECAUSE they are a reminder of the futility and madness of the whole shitshow.

It wasn’t even a pandemic, for Christ’s sake.

The only thing the NPIs achieved was to focus more people in fewer places for more of the time. So, the exact opposite of what they were supposed to do. Which they wouldn’t have managed to do even if they hadn’t or if there was even a problem to fixed in the first place. The whole thing was so topsy turvy it needs to be remembered.

Absurd in the extreme.

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disgruntled246
disgruntled246
1 year ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Perhaps they could be replaced with a sign saying “sign not in use ” like you get on the motorway sometimes.

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sskinner
sskinner
1 year ago

Socially distanced is an oxymoron, a bit like Socialism is also.

Last edited 1 year ago by sskinner
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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

“Together, Apart”

“Breath is Death”

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The old bat
The old bat
1 year ago

Our local doctor’s surgery literally boxed themselves into their back room offices. There were two counters. One is still boarded off, the other is a mass of perspex and wooden battens. In order to speak to the dragon on reception you have to crouch down and speak through the small gap they have left. In addition, they have never reintroduced the table full of magazines that kept you occupied while you wait. If they claim this is infection control, its a load of nonsense because the table is full of NHS leaflets for you to read. Having read this article I am going to challenge them about this remaining rubbish covid ideology.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  The old bat

“they have never reintroduced the table full of magazines that kept you occupied while you wait.”

Which rather begs the question…

‘What am I doing here?’

When a doctors surgery doesn’t understand infection control we have to question why they are still operating.

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Paramaniac
Paramaniac
1 year ago

Told you so.
4 years and counting.

paramaniac
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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago

 “museum of Covid futility, failures and – as with vaccine passports – petty fascism”.

Or as Abby Robberts puts it….Great Wall Of Cu/ts!

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thelightcavalry
thelightcavalry
1 year ago

Keep them up as an embarrassment to the swines who imposed it on the sheep who clapped for it.

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Myra
Myra
1 year ago

I am for removal but only after acknowledgement of the futility and madness of these measures.
I gather only last week Arlene Foster stated in the Inquiry that she should have locked down sooner.
We may think people realise how mad it all was, but I am not convinced the signs will not be resurrected if/when there is another scare.

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The old bat
The old bat
1 year ago
Reply to  Myra

People will call for lockdowns simply because they think they are going to get more paid time off work. For some people, the height of covid was the happiest time of their life.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  Myra

Had a conversation with a mate from Kenya yesterday, even though we didn’t agree in 2021, he is now much more awake and knows that in Africa, they didn’t need a ‘vaccine’ to get out of Lockdowns, because they had very few of them and are better off too.

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RTSC
RTSC
1 year ago

Futile, cost a fortune, wrecked the economy and millions of lives …… and they’ve just love us to “move on.”

They can remove the physical evidence of their tyranny, but I for one will never forget and never forgive them.

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tanya
tanya
1 year ago

I have been removing them where possible ever since they started to appear (e.g. stickers on mirrors in public toilets etc) as an act of rejection.

Last edited 1 year ago by tanya
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@yorkshirekate
@yorkshirekate
1 year ago

I took action to remove every accessible sign during the ghastly period of covid insanity. It was very satisfying to rip instructions on hand washing and distancing from walls.

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JohnnyDollar
JohnnyDollar
1 year ago

I went for a walk in the city , about a few hours after lockdown announced, all the lampposts , pavements were already signed up and stencilled with social distant Cummins style signage ! There was no way that such huge national donate could have been designed , approved and implemented in those few hours ! It was planned . That’s when I know it was a fraud

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  JohnnyDollar

On the day they imposed Lockdown, I went to see if the Gym was open, just be the off chance. It was closed with no notice on the door as to imply the bloody obvious.

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