Prime Minister Rishi Sunak is advocating for tighter protest laws in the U.K., prompted by recent unrest in Central London. The Sun has more.
The Prime Minister has drawn up five areas where legal loopholes need to be closed on policing – including making it easier to ban marches after Palestine activists dressed as Hamas killers and Right-wing thugs injured cops.
Trampling on statues and bus stops, as well as using flares and fireworks at protests will also be outlawed and laws on glorifying terrorists tightened.
The King and Queen led the two minutes silence at the Cenotaph without a hitch, less than 24 hours after violent chaos flared up on Whitehall, and Victoria Station was invaded by anti-Israel protesters.
Cops are probing dozens of hate incidents and antisemitic attacks, with Michael Gove thanking the police for rescuing him from the mob.
Tonight, Home Secretary Suella Braverman said more needed to be done to combat “sick, inflammatory and, in some cases, clearly criminal chants, placards” seen yesterday.
The Sun understands the clampdown would see:
- New laws drawn up to stop yobs climbing on statues, scaffolding and bus stops during protests.
- The law around fireworks, smoke bombs and flares tightened up.
- The threshold at which cops can ban marches and protests due to safety concerns lowered.
- The law on glorifying terrorists like Hamas is also to be tightened as cops say it is too vague to enforce currently.
Ministers are also looking at ways to restrict certain chants like ‘From the river to the sea’ made at protests by working with organisers to set conditions for approving demonstrations.
The clampdown being looked at in Downing Street comes after a day of hate in Central London and weeks of pro-Palestine protests were mired with antisemitic posters and chants.
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And the anti protest regulations get made progressively tighter. Pretty certain, some people predicted this. Who would be a policeman today?
Of course they should be banned. Be like Germany ( new rules ) and Singapore. Or do people want to live in a society where dressing up as a terrorist and maximizing your right to genocidal free speech is to be tolerated and become the new norm? Let’s take a poll within the Jewish community shall we? Oops, forgot…their feelings and basic right to feel safe in their daily lives are completely irrelevant these days apparently.
Can I ask, apart from a few hurt feeling and some people feeling intimidated for a bit, what exactly happened on the weekend that was so terrible?
Did our society collapse? No.
Did people die? No
If what we expect is to have a society in which nothing unpleasant ever goes on, and nothing that feels like things getting a bit out of control momentarily is allowed, then we can prepare ourselves for the most oppressive of tyrannies.
FFS, we are becoming so bloody soft.
No, only hundreds of masked members of an Islamic death cult who wholeheartedly support beheading, raping, torture and mass murder and whose ultimate dream is the complete annihilation of all Jews. On a day mainly commemorating the sacrifice of those who fought a sadistic Austrian who had that exact same dream but was around 6 million Jews more successful. Nothing to worry about though.
But that doesn’t mean I support more protest laws. I think this ‘light touch’ policing is a ruse to nudge them in by stealth.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/what-blm-and-the-remembrance-day-protests-had-in-common/
No, only hundreds of masked members of an Islamic death cult who wholeheartedly support beheading, raping, torture and mass murder and whose ultimate dream is the complete annihilation of all Jews.
Apart from the intentional misrepresentation – a desire to eliminate the state of Israel and drive the jews out of Palestine in order to free it is something very much different from complete annihilation of all Jews – what precisely happened? People wearing clothes marching in the streets and chanting slogans, when neutrally worded. They’re also marching in Reading and I consider them pretty annoying. But no amount of shouting in English pedestrian zones is going to have any material effect on the military situation in the middle east, where Israel is the Goliath armed to the teeth and in no risk whatsever save occasional outbursts of so-called terrorism, something that’s periodically happening all over the so-called West.
Comparing this disorganized rabble of losers with something even remotely resembling disciplined bodies of troops capable of directed violent action – like what the Nazis used to employ for street marches – is completely off base. These guys are Arabs. And your government allowed them to immigrate. Unsurprisingly, this means they’re now here with all of their habits and customs.
I’m not remotely defending our government or any of our mainstream politicians. They’re the biggest puppet shit-show in political history.
The indisputable fact remains though that if Hamas put down their weapons and started spending their billions in Arab aid money on their people instead, there would be peace.
If Israel put down their weapons they would be annihilated. From the river to the sea.
If the rules or laws are not applied evenhandedly none of this matters. And we know for a fact that ethnic minority populations are handled with kid gloves because “racism”.
It will be used against us in the end, that is why I’m an absolutist when it comes to free speech.
Excellent news. There needs to be a boundary. Peaceful protest is fine, but rioting and incitement masquerading as peaceful is not ok. Too many protests that claim to be peaceful but are actually intended to be entirely aggravating. Looking at you, JSO.
There was a time when we had violent miners strikes, a very raucous poll tax protest.
And no one thought for a minute people should be muzzled.
We’re losing our way because we’re a bit afraid of a few muslims.
Hardly a few – multiplying like rabbits and effectively given a free pass when it comes to British law, policing and “justice.”
“a few” ???? ——Wait till it becomes 15% then 25% then 48% and your daughter will have to have extra layers of cloth to go into the street. ——Miners striking and Poll Tax protests were British people complaining about British Policies in Britain. —-What we have now is the importing of all manner of sectarian hate and clutter and turning the country into a middle east battle ground.
More protest laws won’t change that. Other things will.
Just stop for a moment to think what the bargain is.
Extra laws will get you, maybe, once in a blue moon a protest you find incredibly distasteful and threatening will not be allowed.
What it costs you is new laws and powers for the police, FOR EVER, because once they get the powers they never give them up, to put limits on protests that one day you might agree with and want to take part in.
What a great bargain…
Britain is broken and no laws or bans will fix it now! Last out, switch off the lights
If Labour win the next election and implement their insane green energy policies the lights will go out long before everyone leaves.
Exactly.
It’s the nomalisation of banning things and a large state that is worrying. What happened to principles.
They don’t want to ban protests. They want to ban breaking the law which is what support or approval of terrorist groups are. ——We don’t need new laws we just need to enforce existing ones. —–Equally.
Just wait until there are situations where a peaceful protest is entirely ineffective. I’m no fan of violence in any shape or form but if the authorities are coming to jab me or my loved ones against my will, if they intend to cause me to lose my freedoms and rights, segregate me and cause me to suffer then it’s a whole different ball game. If on the other hand it is between groups of human beings, being cynically divided along spurious claims by both sides of being in the right, then I agree.
Common sense
They said that about Lockdown protestors when Police intentionally Kettled them and the media egging them on calling them “far right”….Sound familiar since yesterday?
300.000 of the Jihadis in London screaming hate and Jihad and the useless Plod do nothing and blame the laws….flock off. They had no trouble clubbing, beating, terrorising and arresting LD protestors. The law was pretty clear then.
Muslims. Yeah say it again. Not Hamas or the fake Palestinians. They are MOSLEMS. MOSLEMS. MOSLEMS. JIHAD. JIHAD. AND MORE JIHAD. By 2040 most major UK urban centres will be Moslemified. The Jihad centres called mosques being built every month. Well done multi kulti self hating anti-English racists. But please do get your booster morons. Scariant season coming.
The mistake isn’t shutting muslims up. The mistake is beating up lockdown protestors.
Asking for stricter protest laws is cutting your nose off to spite your face.
The mistake was letting them in, in the first place!
Spot on!
Seconded.
Welcomed-in by successive governments that have brought us other divisive narratives ably supported by the mainstream media yet the government is not overwhelmingly Islamic. It could be a means to an end but who’s to say the end is an Islamic one?
When talking of Muslims, are we supposed to envisage someone who looks like an Arab or is it more varied and includes, for example, Indonesians? Are we also supposed to think Islam is a single homogenous entity with no persecution of groups due to variations in practice?
Or should we just be concerned with a subset of extremists like the ones Western governments use as assets when it suits their purpose?
As someone said on the Radio….Lockdown protestors didn’t have the back of the MSM or MPs. apart from Chope or Swaine.
The left would call you an Islamophobe. But the alternative is Islamification.
Ha, there’s evidently a fair few of them on here as well. Once again, throwing the illogical and fascist pretend word, ”Islamophobe” at people you disagree with puts you on a par with those who eagerly hurl the ridiculous term, ”anti-vaxxer” around. Basically you sound like a right ignorant tit and you demonstrate how unworthy and incapable you are of intelligent and reasoned debate.
Wholly in agreement Mogs.
Battle lines are being drawn between the British people which is incredibly sad but we either end the islamification of our country or accept a brutal future for the generations coming through. And the yoof had better wake up and realise they have a fight on their hands.
Mogs, I think you might have misunderstood Varmint.
Just making general comment about the ridiculous term/slur that’s banded about nowadays, not just by Leftists, but I’ve seen it used by posters on here who are completely inept when it comes to intelligent debate, therefore they must resort to ad hominem and infantile name-calling. Cue my favourite Watts quote again.
I agree with Varmint’s post though.
Al Murry calls them ‘muslamics’
LOL, well that’s a new addition to my vocabulary!
My apologies
No need.
Basically if you disagree with the Progessive Left you are to be name called. Which only reveals how weak all their arguments are
Let’s remember that Islam is a religion not a race! to not agree with someone else’s beliefs is not racism, although, some do try to push it that way!
Islam is NOT just a religion. ————-It is a political system as well. In western religions we have a separation of Church and state. Not so with Islam.
If you look at the pictures of the march were white and therefore probably not Muslim
The problem isn’t just Muslims it’s some British people who are blind to what’s happening, and even worse side with the enemy to appear virtuous.
The irony is not lost on me that these idiots are marching in opposition to a supposed ‘genocide’ but are showing support to a terrorist organization/ideology which is extremely vocal about genocide being their actual aim and what seems to be their reason for getting up in the morning. I’m just full of contempt for them all by now.
The intimidatory behaviour on display was fascist in nature and, no doubt, funded directly or indirectly by overseas enemies of the British State.
Consideration of action against fascist organisations is, of course, not unprecedented:
‘”Lord Swinton and his executive [of the Special Warfare Executive] are very anxious if possible to deport overseas certain leaders of the British Union of Fascists, including Mosley and his wife.
“The chief reason is that it has come to their certain knowledge that Mosley and these leaders fear deportation to quite an inexplicable degree, unless they believe there to be some plot on hand to liberate them from jail for the purpose of starting serious trouble.’
“At present 400 of these fascist organisers are held together in two jails where the warders and police are understood to be unarmed. It has already been represented to the Home Office that this seems an undue risk to be run. These people are just nasty gangsters who will stick at nothing and who, if they were arrested by gangster methods, would doubtless be rounded up in due course. They might do a great deal of damage and would certainly cause a grave scandal in the meantime.’
“It is hoped that the War Office will shortly arrange to take these persons over and keep them under strong military armed care. Even so, it would be better to remove them from the country, especially as this is clearly the last thing they want to happen.’
“The trouble is that the law of the land as it stands prohibits the forcible deportation of any British subject. The Home Office have been invited to examine the legal position and put forward a recommendation…’
Security memorandum, Whitehall 10 July, 1940
All sound like a brilliant idea, until one realises that it will just be a matter of time before someone who objects to the WHO is considered a terrorist.
We just never learn.
My personal take was that this weekend was less about the right to protest, and more about respect for your adopted country – a litmus test for how well integration has worked. I think a very good case could be made for restriction of protest on the tiny handful of days that are still seen as sacred to this country. That would be a very clear, reasonable (in my mind) policy, that could not be easily abused.
I agree with you here entirely though, everyone that’s supporting these generic type anti-protest laws are being incredibly naïve, and seem to have ignored how these laws will be used against any dissenting voices. This was what I always believed this weekend was about – strengthening the surveillance and security state. I thought they’d missed their opportunity because of the lack of trouble, but it looks like they’re pressing ahead anyway.
I predicted last week that the headlines would be “far right causes violent scenes” well slapper my thigh!
Even Julia Hartley Brewer on TTV was referring to the counter protest as “far right thugs”….I was tempted to phone up and ask if wearing a poppy is now the new “far right”.
I can imagine this being misused to ban marches that don’t suit TPTB
This all needs to be dealt with in the same way that violence was dealt with in football grounds in the 90s.
They realised very quickly that violence and disorder was sparked off by a few individuals. So they targeted the main trouble makers and dealt with them. It was surgical. They didn’t punish everyone. They dealt with the worst elements.
They don’t need more laws. What the plod need to do is some proper policing, put the work in and stop asking for more power. They should use the power they have now better.
I can’t help thinking the police might do a deliberately shitty job because they see it as an opportunity to get more powers – which it seems they are going to get.
Why are we so f**king naive as a society. We just never never learn
Which is why the masses are manipulated and used by those who consider themselves entitled to do so and have the power to do it.
Answer:-
sheep
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Braverman will probably be moved on (sacked) but she is really the only one not scared to upset people with the obvious truth that people who pretend to be just protesting but actually support and give approval to terrorism, which is against the law and absurd people who block traffic and smash hammers into works of art because of irrational fears of an imaginary climate crisis need to be policed more firmly and dealt with harshly because I know for sure that I would not get away with any of that stuff, and just because you have a T shirt with “Just Stop oil” on it should not be a free pass to disrupt.
Is the law also to include a requirement for the police to be even handed in their treatment of different types of protestors.
For example the reports of kettling of anti-protestors whereas the main protest march was given free rein are worrying examples of unevenhandedness.
Glad you choose the picture with the “ultra far-right” protestors in it, but none of the Peaceful Tribe.
Perpetuate the narrative.
Copied from The Sun, presumably. Whether it’s actually worth reviewing that paper and commenting on it, I’ll leave that to others. But you made a good point. Perhaps a review of how many arrests there actually were, and how many of them are charged and turn up at the Magistrates might be worthwhile, but the media will have moved on to next business in a couple of days.
A review of how many arrests were made as a percentage of the number of people on each demo will end up showing a much higher percentage of people on the counter demo were arrested.
This could be because the main demo was peaceful and free from antisemitic chants, calls for jihad etc and the counter demo was a bunch of nasty thugs and football hooligans.
It could be because the police weren’t anything like even handed.
Guess which explanation the MSM would choose.
Francis Aaron was down at the protests and has done a long thread, complete with many videos, about what he saw. I think it comes across as very impartial and balanced reporting. The amount of police required though was just crazy. Imagine if there’d been no pro-Hamas protest going on, what those officers could have been better off doing instead;
”I spent my birthday yesterday traipsing about the streets of London recording the events of Remembrance Day and the Palestine March. I witnessed many proceedings first hand.”
https://twitter.com/FrancisAaronUK/status/1723786107584704607
I don’t think the Daily Sceptic perpetuates narratives. It gives us all the opportunity to question them, which you will not see in mainstream publications. Here is a little experiment for you—–Go to Mailonline and try to pass comment on the current situation with Suella Braverman or anything to do with the “river to the sea” sectarianism and see how successful you are at getting your comment accepted. I can save you the time and trouble by telling you now that you won’t succeed. Mailonline will allow 2 or 3 comments then close it down. You will then see thousands of green and red arrows next to the 3 comments that were allowed. —-On Daily Sceptic every comment I have made over the last year or so has been accepted.
Stable door. Horse. Field.
Better late than never.
Here’s how the BBC is cheerleading the Israel hate fest.
https://camera-uk.org/2023/11/13/bbc-impartiality-compromised-by-reporting-on-uk-demonstrations/
I feel we are being slowly led towards a situation where valid ‘angry’ protest is outlawed and then where are we? Imagine a peaceful protest about not being forced to accept a jab for instance, it ain’t going to happen. People will be righteously angry. However, violence by particular groups against other particular groups is unacceptable. Tjis is simply divide and conquer tactics and the media oh so love to stir the pot. However, we’ve had violent protests in the past and I believe the cause of the violence is also by agents provocateur who smash the windows and burn police vans creating the precedent to outlaw protest. In those situations, it is almost impossible to stop them and so here we are with an unelected PM calling for tighter restrictions. Remember problem – reaction – solution, the old three step towards totalitarianism. They have ignored us, silenced us and now they want to make us impotent. If your MP doesn’t take any of your concerns seriously and you are censored and now have no right to legitimate ‘angry’ protest, which can contain some scuffles and smashing up of things because these events always attract idiots and thugs, then where are you? It isn’t democracy that’s for sure.
“unelected PM”?——No. We don’t vote for people we vote for parties. It was the same when Gordon Brown took over from Tony Blair when he stepped down and there was no election.
Not quite. The Conservative party membership votes for a party leader and if the party is in office then the leader gets the PM job. Fishy got to be PM because the leadership vote was rigged.
You will find many unelected Prime Ministers, including Gordon Brown John Major, James Callaghan, and even ——–Winston Churchill. ——–I tend to be more concerned with what these people do once they are in office rather than how they got there. Today they are mostly doing NOTHING. The boats keep coming, the Net Zero keeps impoverishing us, the wokery and gender nonsense keeps persecuting real women and on and on and on.
Although it should be obvious to the intelligent, only the constituents of the Party leader at the time of an election actually vote for the likely PM (assuming that the elected one is appointed by the King). However, there is a kind of pseudo-presidential attitude with many people at General Elections. Years ago, when I was a member of the Labour Party, when I was knocking on doors etc, there were lots of those who were normal supporters who didn’t like Gordon taking over, e.g. and thus wouldn’t vote for the local candidate.
Most people will vote for a candidate on the basis of the party they represent therefore the vast majority of people who voted for a Conservative candidate in 2019 voted for Boris to be PM, although obviously none of them voted for Fishy or Liz the Lettuce to be PM.
I mean a PM who was elected as part of an election campaign obviously, no need to be so pedantic. As such, this guy was just installed like an air-conditioner.
I’ve posted this elsewhere:
In other news, Home Secretary Suella Braverman is sacked, thereby confirming the mandate for two tier policing. We are living in an ant-white apartheid state.
Would love to see some footage of this right wing thuggery but all I’ve seen is Mahyar Tousi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6BC7E4biPs
According to Mahyar Tommy Robinson was with him all day and when Tommy left it was via taxi to a hotel. Tommy subsequently posted on Twitter lambasting those who accused him of causing trouble.
There was footage on MSN showing a bit of pushing and shoving between a few people on the demo and the police. It then looked like someone threw the contents of a can of beer at the back of a police office, this was then reported as people throwing bottles and beer cans. A few of the metal barriers were knocked over, this was then reported as the “mob” throwing the barriers at the police.
It seems like the demo was far more peaceful than a Saturday evening in any large town centre, but was reported as being pretty much a full on riot.
More laws and bans won’t stop what’s happening to society at this time! Britain has changed beyond all recognition and is quickly becoming a lost cause, thankyou for all the years of multiculturalism, its made the place so much better!
Agree Dinger. Corrupt governments have let too many of them in now ( and it’s still continuing on a daily basis, obv ) then they obviously send for the rest of their family and have loads of kids, spawning second and third generations of West/freedom/democracy-haters, many not integrating and forming their own communities that the law inevitably gives up on and can’t touch. Sweden, Germany and France are ahead of us but the UK isn’t far behind. It’s slo-mo colonization, just without any big battles and bloodshed, like centuries gone by. The difference is now, of course, these ”invaders” are welcomed in, whereas before, when the West had more of an identity and strong sense of culture, they would be refused entry and fought off. Everybody, including all of the leaders, are bending over for Islam these days it seems.
“Tightening of protest laws”?—-So will we soon be allowed to drive down the street without brainwashed climate dreamers blocking our path? Or visit the art gallery without the same imbeciles chucking paint over our favourite Van Gogh?——-Or will it be the case that Braverman is correct that it depends on who you are and what you are protesting about that decides on how you are policed? ——–
The tightening of protest laws will be overseen by the Davos Deviants as will the interpretation and implementation of same.
Fishy must be fuming that there wasn’t a blood bath this weekend which would have provided the perfect excuse for draconian banning orders akin to lockdown. Anyway, any excuse to bring in new laws. Just how they expect to police thousand strong mobs chanting “from the river to the sea,” …
Of course the correct course of action would have been to ban the pro-Palestine marches over this weekend but that would be too obvious.
The removing of freedoms continues as some of us knew it would.
On 12 October, the General Secretary of the Free Speech Union lamented that “Psychological Safety Trumps Free Speech”.
What a difference a month of the Daily Sceptic makes.
“Britain’s beleaguered Jews” (16 October), “small and marginalised Jewish community” (17 October,) “how little some people care” (23 October), “Children were too scared to go to school” (23 October), “unheard and a little frightened” (24 October), “too intimidated” (12 November), “the Jewish community is terrified” (12 November), “the future of Jews in the UK” (13 November).
Terrified of what? “A sea of green, red, black and white Palestinian flags” (15 October), “Hamas-style headbands”, “the atmosphere that’s grown in London”, “green smoke” (12 November). The “far-right” (12 November) defending the Cenotaph from a concocted Palestinian threat.
Which leaves the chant “from the River to the Sea”. It is “code for wanting to wipe Israel from the face of the earth” (12 October), “a racially aggravated public order offence” (15 October) “which Ms. Braverman has condemned as an antisemitic staple” (23 October), “the plainly genocidal chant” (26 October), “the controversial phrase” (12 November), “shout, chant or shriek” (13 November).
Now “Ministers are also looking at ways to restrict certain chants like ‘From the river to the sea’”.
Perhaps the Free Speech Union should change its name to the Psychological Safety Union.
Toby, well done, an editorial triumph!
Your ‘Useful Idiot’ badge is in the post.
DS positions on Ukraine and Gaza make it impossible for me to continue support. I will not be renewing my annual donation.
Excuse me can anyone here give any concrete evidence of any violence being committed or anyone being hurt? I haven’t seen one report in the MSM showing any crime being committed. Correct me if I’m wrong.
PS Football chants don’t count.