It seems such a long time ago when an awkward, contrarian group of people known as ‘lockdown sceptics’ were reviled in the mainstream media. How misguided and immoral they were! As the COVID-19 pandemic continued to make waves, columnist Dan Hodges wondered whether anyone had ever been so proved so wrong. Somewhat incoherently, Hodges used the phrase ‘lockdown denier’, not as in denying the existence of this regime, but for its criticism.
COVID-19 saw the emergence of an industry of fact-checking websites and censorship of alleged misinformation, portrayed as a danger to public health and safety. Official sources were almost as focused on refuting competing ideas as on providing supposedly useful and accurate information. A good example of this was a guide against ‘coronavirus fake news’ issued by Castle Point MP Rebecca Harris in autumn 2020, probably following the publication of the Great Barrington Declaration by three eminent scientists challenging lockdown orthodoxy. It is well worth retrospective review: was officialdom right?
The MP’s guide comprised 14 claims, each dismissed as ‘fake news’. In what follows, the ‘myth’ is stated in bold, the ‘refutation’ from Harris is quoted below it, and our assessment comes next.
1. 5G has caused the virus
The COVID-19 pandemic is caused by a novel form of a coronavirus and there is no evidence that 5G technology has any effect on people’s health at all. Scientists have made it clear that there is no link between 5G and coronavirus. A connection with the virus is “both a physical and biological impossibility”. This is a conspiracy theory that has come about as a result of false information online. Damaging telecoms infrastructure is particularly dangerous and anyone responsible for these criminal acts will face the full force of the law. 5G is an information technology that allows for faster mobile internet communication and will allow for new innovative services. After extensive trials OFCOM, measured 5G sites in various towns and cities across the U.K., focusing on areas where mobile use is likely to be highest. At every site, emissions were a small fraction of the levels included in international guidelines, as set by the International Commission on Non-Ionising Radiation Protection. And the maximum measured at any site was 1.5% of those levels. Therefore, 5G is scientifically proven to be safe.
This is the tactic of using an unrepresentative and extreme idea to discredit opponents. Politicians are good at asking themselves questions rather than responding to more important or legitimate concerns. Whatever the possible harms of 5G, the spate of mast installations during the first lockdown was unlikely to affect viral communication.
FACT CHECK: False
2. If you have Covid and aren’t showing symptoms you won’t transmit the disease
Not everyone who has COVID-19 has symptoms and it can take up to 14 days to show symptoms in some cases. In reality, we don’t yet know exactly how many people might be completely asymptomatic (meaning that you don’t show symptoms) while carrying the virus, but studies show it could be a high number. That’s why it’s so important to self-isolate for at least 14 days if you either live with someone who might have the virus or you’ve been instructed to by a contact-tracer, and why keeping a safe distance from others is essential.
Asymptomatic transmission of respiratory diseases is claimed and was before COVID-19, but by admission of the ‘fact-checkers’, we do not know how many people are asymptomatic (in theory, everyone in the population). The MP’s guide states a 14-day period as necessary for isolation, but this lacks evidence. Taken to its illogical conclusion, this principle would mean that everyone should be endlessly self-isolating and social-distancing, because contraction of the virus is not limited to the symptomatic. Note that the guidance does not mention testing positive: if there was such faith in the tests, as discussed below, surely that would be definitive.
FACT CHECK: Unquantifiable
3. Face masks don’t work
Science in this area has evolved during the outbreak, the body of scientific evidence that has built up shows that the risk of transmission is made lower by wearing a face covering. The more we learn about COVID-19 the clearer it is that face coverings are an absolute vital tool in our fight against the virus. They effectively capture droplets, which is the main way the virus travels from person to person. According to the British Medical Association, if you don’t wear one and have COVID-19, the risk of spreading it to others can be as high as 70%. If you do wear one, the risk drops to 5%. Make sure you wear one in all public indoor spaces and whenever you can’t keep a two-metre distance from others. It is simple and easy way we can all stop the spread of the virus. Because face coverings are mainly intended to protect others, not the wearer, from coronavirus, they are not a replacement for social distancing and regular hand washing.
There is no high quality evidence for the effectiveness of face masks, as shown by the DANMASK-19 study (the only rigorous RCT of face masks to date) and the most recent Cochrane systematic review. But this was known as far back as the Spanish influenza outbreak of a hundred years ago, and medical experts such as Anthony Fauci initially advised against mask use.
FACT CHECK: True
4. Masks are harmful to your health and can kill you
Only an airtight mask could possibly cause any breathing difficulty. That eliminates cloth masks, the preferred personal protective equipment in public. It actually eliminates N95 respirators, too, usually reserved for healthcare professionals. They fit tighter than a cloth mask but still not tight enough on the face to kill. Surgeons wear even more substantial face coverings all day without endangering their health. The average facemask user without pre-existing respiratory illness has nothing to worry about. Those who have an age, health or disability reason for not wearing a face covering should not be routinely asked to give any written evidence of this, this includes exemption cards.
There is credible evidence to suggest that wearing masks can kill, and reports of adverse effects were published in the BMJ. Ironically, amidst the shrill climate alarmism about carbon dioxide, this gas of life was trapped in masks, reaching levels that were genuinely harmful in children.
FACT CHECK: Partly true
5. We don’t need to worry about a second wave of COVID-19. It’s just the same as the normal winter cold and flu season
COVID-19 is not the same as winter cold or flu illness – in many ways it’s much worse. Seasonal flu has been around for a long time, so scientists and doctors know a lot about it and how to treat people who have the illness. There’s also a yearly vaccine available for seasonal flu. SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, is completely new. Scientists and medical professionals are still learning about the virus – what we do understand is that COVID-19 looks to have a higher reproductive number (the number of people infected by one person) than flu and has a higher death rate. A vaccine is most likely to be some months away. That’s why we must do all we can to follow the Government’s guidance to stay as safe as possible over the coming months.
Official data show that there was indeed a second wave in the U.K., attributed to a new but less dangerous variant of COVID-19 (the Kent or Alpha variant). Toby Young was roasted by Covidians for apparently being proved wrong on this. But just as COVID-19 data in the initial outbreak probably included many people with influenza, it is likely that the second wave included other coronaviruses including the common cold. Although official sources suggested distinct symptoms of COVID-19, the trumpeted loss of taste and smell is not unique, also featuring in influenza. The populace was on ‘high alert’ for COVID-19, inevitably influencing self-diagnosis, and mass testing of dubious accuracy undoubtedly led to overestimated incidence. Moreover, the ‘Lockdown Files’ leaked by Isabel Oakeshott revealed Health Secretary Matt Hancock asking colleagues when the new strain would be deployed.
FACT CHECK: The second wave was hyperbolic
6. It only affects older people, so young people don’t have to worry about it
Most people who aren’t elderly and do not have underlying health conditions will not become critically ill from COVID-19. But the illness still has a higher chance of leading to serious respiratory symptoms than seasonal flu, and we are still learning about some of the other long term effects.
Based on official mortality data, the threat of COVID-19 to healthy younger people was negligible. Everyone gets colds and an occasional flu, but it is predominantly frail older people who perish (pneumonia, a bacterial sequel to influenza, is sometimes known as ‘the old man’s friend‘). The narrative around ‘Long Covid’, obliquely mentioned in Harris’s guide, has been crumbling with scientists unable to agree a definition, middle-aged women possibly confusing it with the onset of menopause, some reports mixing it up with the side-effects of Covid vaccines, and the extraordinary finding that half of the people who report Long Covid symptoms have never had COVID-19.
FACT CHECK: True: there was no need for healthy young people to worry
7. COVID-19 death rate is 0.1% of people that catch it
This is incorrect, and the death rate is likely to be five or 10 times higher than this. However, it should be noted that the relative fatality of coronavirus is greatly affected by exogenous factors such as previous health conditions, age and other factors such as smoking or obesity.
Was COVID-19 more lethal than flu? Worldometers shows an infection mortality rate of 0.99%, but this is faulty in both numerator and denominator. The latter depends on testing, which we’ll consider below. Some people who died within 28 days of a positive test were deemed COVID-19 victims if the physician issuing the death certificate included COVID-19 on the death certificate, including people dying from cancer, heart attacks or accidents, which undoubtedly added to the toll. The lockdown regime, by reducing access to healthcare, possibly contributed to the surge. Arguably, no disease has ever had such inflated mortality, although this eventually became a casualty of mass testing, diluting the death rate. A WHO bulletin by John Ioannidis in 2021 estimated the median infection fatality rate of Covid-19 at 0.23% and in younger people at 0.05%.
FACT CHECK: Partly true: slightly higher in older people and very low to negligible in younger people
8. Testing is inaccurate, and testing for COVID-19 has false positives of 80%
Tests for active coronavirus are not always correct: at present they are understood to produce false negatives in between 2% to 20% of cases. If you are exhibiting symptoms but receive a negative test result, you must continue to self-isolate. Antibody tests are understood to be accurate in all cases where a person has not suffered with coronavirus, presenting a false negative in approximately 16% of cases where someone has had COVID-19. Developers of these tests have been working to maximise accuracy.
Leaving aside the controversy about isolation of the virus, the PCR method is not designed for screening of infectious diseases. The U.K. Government’s report on Covid testing indicated a false positive rate of 25%. This report, based on observational data, explained: “If the operational false positive rate was 0.4%, 400 of the 1,570 positive tests would be false positives. That would represent 400 people being isolated when they are well, and much wasted effort in contact tracing. It is possible that a proportion of infections that we currently view as asymptomatic may in fact be due to these false positives.”
FACT CHECK: Partly true: testing is inaccurate and the problem of false positive tests exists and is far from negligible
9. We should let everyone catch the virus so we become immune, even if it causes some deaths in the short-term
If everyone caught the virus without any strategies in place to suppress it, this could lead to an enormous number of deaths, a devastated healthcare system and a breakdown of our economy and society. It would also prevent people from accessing healthcare, emergency services and even prescriptions for normal medical reasons, and minor conditions could prove to be more fatal. The people most likely to suffer would be some of the most vulnerable in our society. We all have a duty to look out for each other and every person’s life is worth protecting. We all have a part to play to protect the most vulnerable people in society. Everyone’s actions have a direct impact on how fast the virus spreads. Young people can spread it to older and vulnerable members of society without knowing they are infected. Whatever you do, please remember to follow the Government’s guidance.
This was the central argument about lockdown: should the Government save lives from the contagion or ‘let it rip’. A massive PR exercise ensured that the country was shut down, with Boris Johnson — who initially favoured ‘letting it rip’ — threatening citizens with arrest if they left home unnecessarily. In fact, as proposed in the much-maligned at the time but now vindicated Great Barrington Declaration (painted at the time as tantamount to ‘letting it rip’), a strategy of focused protection of those vulnerable to COVID-19 was put forward, and ignored. As this website (then named Lockdown Sceptics) warned at the time, lockdown was an unmitigated disaster, wreaking severe social, economic, educational and psychological damage, for no significant health benefit.
FACT CHECK: Partly true: elderly and vulnerable people should be protected if they want it, but few suggested otherwise
10. Obesity kills more people than coronavirus
This is a misleading statistic and coronavirus remains the greatest threat to public health. The post circulating takes Covid deaths at one of their lowest points and compares it to an average of obesity caused deaths over a full year. However, as noted by fullfact.org, if you work out an average in a similar manner for the months in which we have had COVID-19, the death rate is significantly higher than that of obesity.
We were told that COVID-19 was the biggest threat to humanity since the Second World War or the Great Plague, varying by politicians’ bluster. Ironically, after two years of pronounced daily death reports on the news in 2020-21, now politicians and mainstream media are mute on the persistent excess mortality that began after the pandemic declined.
FACT CHECK: True in the longer term at least
11. The Government is using Behavioural Scientists in SAGE to brainwash and manipulate the public to achieve compliance with dangerous policies and laws
The purpose of SAGE is to provide scientific advice to the Government. I cannot emphasise strongly enough that this has been used to help save lives, and has been nothing to do with behavioural control, nor would it ever be so. I believe that it [is] particularly important during the coronavirus outbreak that the public are provided with truthful information and guidance. The spread of rumours, lies and falsehoods can put lives in danger. Cross-Government work is helping to identify false narratives and provide rebuttals to those claims.
The Government has since admitted use of covert and coercive means to manipulate society, as documented by State of Fear, a detailed exposé by Laura Dodsworth. Whether or not it was the behavioural scientists on SAGE (a body including unabashed Communist Susan Michie) who was doing this is not the important point. The Government, though various actors and agencies, subjected people to terrifying propaganda to increase fear and boost control.
FACT CHECK: True
12. COVID-19 is man-made
Scientists from across the world have disproved this theory. Research firmly determines that coronavirus is a result of a naturally occurring process and not a product of laboratory engineering. New diseases have emerged throughout human history, and we have seen two other major coronavirus outbreaks in the last two decades: SARS and MERS. The COVID-19 pandemic is not a hoax, it is a global outbreak caused by the virus SARS-CoV-2.
The presence of the Wuhan Institute of Virology in the city of the first major COVID-19 outbreak inevitably aroused suspicion, particularly as its laboratories were engaged in gain-of-function research on SARS-like, bat-vectored coronaviruses. Harris parrots the official narrative without satisfactory rebuttal of the lab leak thesis.
FACT CHECK: Possibly true
13. The Government will force everyone to take a harmful and potentially lethal vaccine which it is already buying millions of doses of with our money.
The powers granted to the Government under the Coronavirus Act 2020 are made under and subject to the restrictions of the Control of Disease Act 1984. Under the 1984 Act, Ministers have the power to make regulations which prevent danger to public health and prevent the spread of infection, but these regulations do not include mandatory treatment or vaccination. Across the globe, there are 140 vaccines not yet in human trials, 19 in small-scale safety trials, 11 in expanded safety trials, and three in large-scale efficacy trials, including the Oxford vaccine trial. Scientists worldwide are hoping to develop a coronavirus vaccine within 12 to 18 months. While severe side-effects from vaccinations are rare, as a result of the rigorous testing and review process prior to usage, in the event that these effects occur, the Government has established the Vaccine Damage Payment Scheme. This means that, if an individual is severely disabled as a result of a vaccination against certain diseases, he or she can receive a one-off-tax-free payment of £120,000. While the VDPS is primarily designed to cover adverse reactions for vaccination in the child immunisation programme, the scheme is kept under review at all times with further vaccination programmes included if appropriate. However, safety, effectiveness and the ability to tolerate the vaccine are top priorities for manufacturers and regulators, and I fully support the system of clinical trials currently in place to minimise the risk of side-effects.
The Government most certainly tried – and failed – to force everyone to take a course of experimental injections, which proved to be neither safe nor effective. COVID-19 vaccines are demonstrably harmful (as shown by the Yellow Card system) and sometimes lethal (as confirmed by coroner reports).
FACT CHECK: Partly true
14. Bill Gates has a vaccine to the coronavirus
This is untrue and deliberately misleading. A patent application was made for a different coronavirus filed by the Pirbright Institute, which receives funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, but this has no connection to COVID-19. Coronavirus is a large category of viruses that includes the common cold, SARS and the new virus that causes COVID-19.
Why is the Government so keen to protect Bill Gates? He provided funding for COVID-19 vaccine development and distribution. Whether he personally had a vaccine ready is a spurious claim that is used to associate sceptics with wacky conspiracy theorists.
FACT CHECK: Red herring
Thankfully, there is now the investigative team at BBC Verify to rescue the truth from future pandemic propagandists!
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The Latest Deep Globalist Play?
I think we could be missing the big underlying play here. Many of us suspected that October 7th had all the fingerprints of a Pearl Harbour/9-11 type operation. But beyond the obvious geopolitical desires of the Zionist movement on the extreme Right and the Extremist desires of the violent sections of Hamas to just inflict damage to Israelis, why would Globalists want/allow this?
A piece in Off Guardian highlights an individual BTL comment that I think the sharper skeptics need to think about. https://off-guardian.org/2023/11/21/is-gaza-genocide-being-used-to-promote-the-gr-multipolarity-as-a-solution/
Here is the comment:
““I see more people now saying the point is division and distraction and I agree and it’s gratifying to see people waking to new realities. However I think it may be even one step more cynical and diabolical.
I believe from what I see that we may soon witness a “flip of the script”. I believe Israel may soon be dropped by everyone but the so-called “alt right” who will elect to go down with her ship.
I believe the majority of the media will fall behind the so-called “silent majority” of ordinary people and begin more and more to condemn Israel.
Eventually the politicians will “reluctantly” follow suit, Israel will be condemned in the UN and there will be promises of punishment, war crime trials etc.
I believe this may be presented to the masses as a “triumph for the common man”, and we will all be flattered that our protests and righteous anger have prevailed. But in reality this will all have been planned.
On the back of this I believe the controlled independent media will join with the “enlightened” mainstream in calls for action to be taken to prevent such abuses as those done by Israel ever happening again. This will be presented to us as a “new age of accountability and direct democracy”, which will be a lie.
I believe the masses will support this in the false belief a new age of hope is dawning.
In reality I believe this will be when Agenda 2030 begins to be seriously introduced and large central authority given to the UN or perhaps a newly created body at first in the pretence of holding nations accountable and only later will the truth become obvious to all, but by then too late.
I do not claim this will definitely happen, but I fear it may.””
This resonates with me and also syncs with some apocalyptic interpretations regarding one world government and the centrality of the Holy Lands in starting the final stages. But even if the gospel of John the Revelator is not your thing, it is a very interesting starting point to the end of the US centered unipolar world.
Catt Black of Off Guardian expounds on this comment and a very interesting discussion unfolded BTL.
“This certainly is a considerable amount of mainstream coverage for a suppressed minority to get. …
Hmmm. Really? This is the level of naivety we feel appropriate? Let’s do better.As another commenter appositely observed –
It’s not enough to say “well thank goodness CNN have seen the light”, or “well it’s nice to see Doctors without Borders on the right side for a change.” Because that’s not how these things work. The mainstream is never gonna “see the light”, it will always, always ALWAYS follow the agenda of the tiny minority who own and control it.
Exactly. This is a reality we can’t ignore. The controlled media are showing us the evils in Gaza because for some twisted reason their controllers want us to see and deplore the very slaughter they have created.
The big question…is…Why do they want you to be shocked, traumatized, sympathetic toward their own victims?….
Are they hoping we will all be so traumatized by their endless snuff films of death and destruction we will grab at the first offered chance of ‘peace’, even if it involves being ruled by the UN/WEF/CFR nexus?
Is this indeed how the global managers intend to finally shed their “collective west” skin and transform into the Multipolar World of the 4th Industrial Revolution/Great Reset? The new – inclusive, “equitable” and far worse tyranny.”…”
The first comment on her article is from none other than Ian Davis of “Plandemic” fame:
“I think there is an evident narrative shift. This shift is accompanied by a geopolitical, economic and financial transformation, as increasing amounts of capital and resources move from west to east. The Belt and Road project is looking more and more like the centre of a new Eurasian based global economy.
That nearly every globalist organisation, think tanks and major philanthropic foundation has been discussing and planning for this new global economic paradigm for more than a century is not a “coincidence” that should be overlooked in my view.
The BRICS led “global south” is emerging as the justification for multipolarity. This, in turn, looks set to be the foundation of real “global governance” under a “transformed” UN. Guterres almost open hostility to Israel’s “right to defend itself” was very significant in my view.
This is a fascinating thread that it seem few are willing to pull. Thanks so much.”
I don’t hold much hope for ATL posting of these kind of suppositions as they are far too conspiratorial, however what do the DS BTL make if this?
If Iain Davis sees fit to weigh in then the subject is definitely worthy of discussion.
Thanks.
I would also say, judging by the downticks you are receiving about your comments, that you are above the target. We all know that we are not exactly left alone by the trolls and shills and types such as 77th Brigade here on DS. What you said and the comments you added make sense to me. A big play designed for a specific outcome leading us nearer and nearer to the goal: world government in all but name. The downticks provide the idea that your comments are unpopular and anyone not digging deeper might accept that and dismiss the supposition. Good comments.
Many thanks for a well considered post.
My apologies for the long post, I felt it was important for discussion.
As I’ve said many times before, I do believe that the conflict is way more complex than most are making it out to be – on both sides of the argument. To uncritically take one side, ignoring all potential impact of such a stance, looks naïve to me. What Hamas did was beyond the pale, but to turn a blind eye to the barbarity of the response is as well. And is there something else going on? Some other agenda at play? Given what we know about the elite filth, that’s something that cannot possibly be ruled out… in fact, I would say it’s more likely than not. The question for me has always been what that agenda is.
Don’t ever apologise – particularly when considering the overt partisanship shown on this site recently. This is an important discussion which is being seriously considered on more thoughtful sites than this one.
Along with many others, I’ve been pondering much the same issues myself: we’ve been inundated with a tsunami of some really distressing, gory and traumatic images for the last 2 and a half months, curiously overlaid – here in the UK at least – with bitter condemnation and criticism of those whose very bodies and destruction we witness. It’s a playbook that has been used time and time again throughout history – because it works, and because the vast majority of the public are that gullible. Go elsewhere outside Western MSM and coverage can be equally condemnatory, but is generally broader and makes much more of an attempt to ‘understand’ a situation many are recognising as some sort of complex geopolitical ‘bait and switch’ for generally unknown but no doubt nefarious reasons. I’m more than willing to entertain the idea that it’s all part of the globalists’ plan; but I’m also willing to entertain the idea that it’s not going quite to plan because so many people are beginning to see through the cracks and the lies. It’s been noted elsewhere that the massive global weekly protests to stop the genocide aren’t just about Palestine, but are taking on a much broader meaning, in a ‘we the people have had enough’ sense. We see the totally corrupt capture of politics, finance, media and entertainment, we see the subversive manipulation of language and emotion to try to control us, we see the deliberate corralling into meaningless polarities (left/right, anti- this, phobic-that) and we see that none of it bears any relationship with how we actually live our lives – or indeed, what we want for our fellow human beings. May the awakening continue.
Terrific
Well I for one disagree. There is no secret, sinister plan by “controllers”. Who are these “controllers” by the way? Strangely they go unnamed. It is all a silly conspiracy theory which would be laughable if discussed amongst schoolchildren in the playground. For adults to give it credence is just rather sad.
The truth is that on October 7th, Hamas was able to carry out what it had long made clear was its only real goal-the horrific killing of Jews. Israel has responded in the only sane way possible, namely to use as much force as necessary to kill as many Hamas terrorists as possible and to disable their ability to repeat the pogrom. Any other country would have done the same. It is a war, and the reality is that innocent people die in war. However, in our social media age, people’s ability to put up with reality has been impaired. Meanwhile the media is simply following the age-old principle: “If it bleeds, it leads”. If cameras were trained on the Ukraine-Russia front line, or in the Syrian prisons, or had been allowed unfettered access to the war in Iraq, you would see the same cause and effect.
The good news is that our lives are not controlled by some sinister cabal. The bad news is that this means everyone must take responsibility for their own lives. A good starting point would be to waste as little time as possible on silly conspiracy stories like this.
Saying there is no ‘secret, sinister plan by “controllers”.’ is exactly what the controllers would say to deflect focus. It’s akin to a ‘move along, nothing to see here’ type statement. If you’ve been paying attention you would discern that fairly much all the main plays currently being enacted are in some way connected. You say that Oct 7th was another random act of violence – it doesn’t add up. Just like the idea that a bunch of terrorists learned how to fly big jets in impossible curves into buildings that then just fell down. It’s what happens following these events that is of interest. In the case of 9/11, it was the tightening of the screw on international travel and the softening up of the world’s population to accept draconian measures and curtailed freedoms. So, to dismiss the comments as just silly conspiracy theories and compare us to children is highly disingenuous. You’re on the DS, not some Guardian comments page, matey.
Who are these “controllers”? Please name each and every one of them and explain how and why they are apparently operating in concert “against” the rest of us. What are the “main plays” and what evidence do you have that the “controllers” brought them about? How are the “main plays” connected?
I didn’t say, by the way, that October 7th was a “random act of violence”. In fact, I said it was the result of Hamas putting into action its declared plan.
On 9/11, are you saying that if big jets fly into buildings they shouldn’t fall over?
I do realise, matey, that this is the DS and not the Guardian. I suppose I should have expected that any forum with “sceptic” in its title was bound to attract more than its fair share of cranks as well as the genuinely sceptical, but thanks for making that abundantly clear.
When you say my “rhetoric is clueless”, do you simply mean you disagree with me, but you can’t answer my questions? I’m afraid the rest of your post is largely incoherent but happy to be called naive if your gang is the alternative.
The thing is you only have to follow the abundant links to alternative sources of information that are often posted on here to discover that there is actually a very well planned plan against us that is very real and not a conspiracy theory. It’s even mentioned among governments, global bodies, thinktanks and so on. It’s called Agenda 21 or 2030 – go on and have a look at it. Follow some of the threads and see where this narrative actually leads. It isn’t good. I won’t take up your offer to name the ‘controllers’ because you can do your own reading and research and I don’t think there is one ‘Bond villain’ type pulling the strings, it’s many organisations working along the same lines towards the same goal.
If big jets fly into buildings they shouldn’t fall over, no. Have you read the reports of the architects and engineers looking for the truth about 9/11? You should. All the evidence about 9/11 points towards a huge cover-up. You’d have to very stupid to believe most of what we were told about it.
I’m no crank, I think a lot, I’m sceptical. However, I just can’t believe that you are not aware of things like Agenda 21 and alternative narratives on 9/11.
I’m sure you are sincere in what you say. I am aware of the things you mention, I just don’t believe that many organisations are working on a plan against us. There are many ways to be sceptical it seems.
Are you saying that Hamas did not kill Jews on October 7th?
I didn’t say that, Jon, this new bloke Shotclog did!
How annoyingly convenient. Ever heard of Popper and his Falsification Principle?
“Government needs to trust not fear the people”.
No, the government needs to fear the people.
I think the phrase is just one of those catchy phrases that really say nothing and mean nothing.
A government that fears its people can be good, keeps it on its toes, or bad because it uses the bureaucracy to control people oppressively and crush any dissent before it gets anywhere.
If you look at the world today, it looks.more and more.like the latter.
The more apt phrase should be:
The people need to fear not trust the government.
Good grief, what the hell is International Migrant’s Day? This woketard woman is a disgusting traitor as well and is clearly not right in the head. Quite rightly she got a lot of flack on Twitter for this loony post;
”White Irish people have an “unearned privilege simply being white,” according to the Deputy Lord Mayor of Cork.
The remarks were made this morning by Green Party Councillor Colette Finn on social media, in a post marking International Migrants Day.
“White people in Ireland need to understand that we have an unearned privilege simply being white,” she wrote.
“Let’s examine our own biases on International Migrant’s Day.”
https://gript.ie/deputy-lord-mayor-of-cork-white-people-in-ireland-have-privilege/
Well and truly insane. A long walk off a short pier for her then.
EU Agrees Dystopian Digital ID Currency
latest leaflet to print at home and deliver to neighbours or forward to politicians, media, friends online.
What is really going on?
Further confirmation of Putin’s ambitious expansion plans for the Russian Federation.
‘Putin gave an extended interview with Russian state TV channel Rossiya 1 on December 17, wherein he attempted to deny US President Joe Biden’s December 6 warning that Russia would attack a NATO country in the future if it won the war in Ukraine.’
‘Putin followed this supposed reassurance with (a statement that) “there will be problems” with Finland and that Finland’s NATO accession prompted Russian officials to start forming the Leningrad Military District (LMD) and concentrating military units in northwestern Russia.’
‘Putin threatened Poland on July 21, stating that Russia would respond “with all the means” at its disposal after Warsaw sent troops to the Belarusian-Polish border due to the redeployment of Wagner Group fighters to Belarus.’
‘Deputy Chairman of the Russian Security Council Dmitry Medvedev threatened on August 29 that Russia had “an opportunity to act within the framework of jus ad bellum against everyone in NATO countries” when commenting on Western support of Ukrainian strikes on occupied Crimea.’
‘Medvedev similarly threatened Poland in November when he stated that Russia deems Warsaw to be a “dangerous enemy” that could lose its “statehood.”’
‘A Russian propagandist suggested on Russian state TV on December 2 that Baltic states would be Russia’s next military target and that they would fall shortly after Ukraine.’
‘Putin’s proclamation that Russia has no interest in invading NATO is also very similar to the Kremlin’s persistent claims in late 2021 and early 2022 — including right up to the eve of the invasion — that Russia did not intend to invade Ukraine.’
‘If Russia were able to achieve its stated maximalist objective of full Ukrainian capitulation, likely leading to a Russian military occupation of Ukraine, Russia would be able to deploy forces right up to NATO’s border from the Black Sea to the Arctic Ocean.
‘Given Russia’s demonstrated hostile intent towards NATO and its potential military capabilities along almost the entirety of NATO’s eastern border, the West would be obliged to prepare to defend against possible Russian action against NATO. The cost of these defensive measures would be astronomical and would likely be accompanied by a period of very high risk.’
‘Support for Ukraine offers the West the best opportunity to avoid these costs and the expanded Russian threat.’
ISW
In a spirit of helpfulness:
https://www.bunkershield.co.uk/
I’m glad you’ve posted the “Neil Oliver interviews Dr. Robert Malone” item. I saw it on their broadcast channel the other day. The one above on the destruction of excess stock for Covid vaccines is probably the tip of the iceberg for similar products. After all, they all have a shelf life, so things like ‘Flu jabs probably go the same way from year to year.
A different item that isn’t on the list is that on the BBC World propaganda channel in the small hours today, they had an item about the cash being handed over to wind generation firms for generation that cannot be accepted by the grid. In effect, some of the generators only generate cash, funded by excess charges to us all, by the sound of it.
The downright arrogance and utter disdain these elites show. How about this for a novel idea: The people will decide whether to trust the government. And if they don’t, they will remove them from office. Forcibly if needed.
Just thought you might like an update on the IHR debate in Westminster Hall yesterday.
We were at Parliament square before the debate with a banner ‘Reject the IHR amendments’ and I then managed to get into the debate. Initially they told us there were 18 seats for the general public, in the end there were just over 30 members of the public.
Attendance: 7 MPs (5 Conservative, 1 independent, 1 I don’t know), 1 cabinet minister for health, 1 shadow cabinet minister for health.
Each MP could have a say and were all fiercely against the amendments, and asked questions of the government health minister. The government health minister gave the absolute assurance that the U.K. was not giving up any sovereign rights to any organisations and that civil servants were busy negotiating with the other nations involved. He did not want to divulge which amendments were negotiated and in what direction. This, to me seems an extraordinary lack of transparency towards his colleagues in Parliament. Civil servants were in charge of the negotiations under the health minister‘s direction.
Labour’s health minister did not appear to think there was a problem at all. She was all for being better prepared next time and was bringing the ‘we are not safe until we are all safe’-mantra to audible jeering from the audience (we were called to order).
In the end I was not sure if this was a serious case of gaslighting by the health minister: “Don’t worry, we will be negotiating on your behalf and all will be fine.”
I suppose we are continuing highlighting our issues with the WHO. At least something is filtering through.
It will all be uploaded on Parliament tv.
Particularly fiery was Christopher Chope (from around 17.30 pm to 17.50 pm).
Great, thanks for the update.
Indeed.
That reminds me of Tory party assurances over the EEC/EU.
First they were going to explore options but then they joined without an election.
They assured us it was all about trade and there was no question of losing our sovereign rights.
They used what would today be called “nudge” or “spin” (correctly brain washing). They had opposition parties and press and media editors in to listen to the government spin so they could publish coordinated stories. These included rubbishing any politician who spoke out against, such as Powell, Benn etc.
MPs who opposed were threatened with what has been done to Andrew Bridgen, and worst.
throughout our period of subordination Tory leaders and MPs would deny that EU policies which were damaging or unwanted were even being considered. Then they said they were but it would not happen. Then it was forced on us and tge Tories supported it.
They claimed they were negotiating changes and said many other member states would support us. As with Cameron’s faux efforts it came to nothing.
Even during the referendum the Tories promised to implement the result in full. When the people decided to leave the PM walked away and the MPs delayed and only partly implemented Brexit.
Do not thrush any Tory politician, especially when they speak!
https://www.globalresearch.ca/psychopaths-world-united-rebuilding-trust-world-economic-forum/5843287?doing_wp_cron=1702651466.8995959758758544921875
“World Economic Forum recently announced the theme for their annual meeting in Davos in January 2024.[1] This time it is about “rebuilding trust”. This also happens to be the theme of the United Nations 78th General Assembly that opened September 5 2023.[2]
I say good luck with those ambitions! Klaus Schwab and his army of “change agents” have never scored high on the popularity charts, and his achievements of the recent years haven’t exactly improved that.”
Posted last night but for those who don’t backtrack…
‘Rebuilding trust’ – aka ‘the current censorship industrial complex isn’t working guys, we’ve got to tighten the screws even harder to get the plebs in line!’
Exactly.
A dump but an important one from Sasha Latypova via the wonderful Dr Mike Yeadon.
Here she is detailing the Pfizer clot shots in the USA:
“the product is not serialized – i.e. unit doses are not barcoded and thus not traceable under normal pharmaceutical distribution rules which exist to flag any safety or quality issue in the supply chain. The product this is wide open to both falsification and adulteration. The product is shipped to DOD and handled through a “black box” DOD distribution system, ostensibly due to the cold chain storage requirements. The product is deemed “US Government property” until it is injected into a person.”
And this:
“Overall characterization of what is going on: the federal and most of the state governments are gone and captured. Whatever is running the federal gov agencies (e.g. HHS) really intends to kill you, or at least substantially injure you, damage your reproductive capacity and repossess your assets in the process. The aim is to reduce the population and terrorize the survivors enough to establish a totalitarian control over much of the world’s territory. Nobody is coming to save you, your survival and that of your children is in your hands only. Do not comply.”
From her excellent Substack ‘Due Diligence and Art.’
Posted last night so for those who missed it.
https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/summary-of-everything-and-quick-links
https://www.globalresearch.ca/central-bank-digital-currency-cbdc-weapon-of-mass-destruction-and-whos-health-tyranny-towards-a-totalitarian-world-government-no-way/5814122
An explanation of the coming collapse of the Western banking system which will of course necessitate the introduction of CBDC and coupled with the revised International Health Regulations will ensure our imprisonment.
The year 2024 is going to be a series of Blitzkriegs on the populations of the Global North.
“Don’t let Harry or Abu Dhabi stifle a free press”
….that’s the job of MI5, MI6, CIA, Trusted News Initiative, MediaMatters, every ‘fact checker’ organisation – and Marrianna Spring
“Sick note Britain refuses to confront the causes of a surging welfare bill” – The Tories have tiptoed around the big rise in the numbers not working because of mental health problems….
But not post jab side effects and disabilities of course. Couldn’t possibly be that.
Latest from Alistair Crooke. This one with Bliar’s fingerprints all over it too….
https://strategic-culture.su/news/2023/12/18/they-can-wait-at-leisure-whilst-netanyahu-labours-and-errs/
Thus, PM Blair and President Bush put together a secret (unacknowledged to the EU) plan in response: Hamas leaders – plus the movements’ social support NGOs – were to be eliminated. And the Palestinian Authority would crack down on all and every Hamas activity – in close collaboration with Israel.
The West Bank, in this plan, would be the recipient of large financial aid to construct a prosperous western-style consumer/security state, and Gaza explicitly was to be impoverished. It would be made to ‘stew in its own juices’ under 16 years of siege; to wallow in poverty.
The Israelis gave the Blair plan its empirical basis – calculating exactly how many calories, per head, how much fuel and gas would be allowed to enter Gaza – that would just maintain a subsistence standard of living. And since this Blair-Bush initiative, Palestinians have been irredeemably divided, with no political project even faintly possible.
Do bear in mind that total 24/7 surveillance, IDs for everything, food and travel/work restrictions, grinding poverty, etc are what’s planned for those that survive come the great reset…….
That was a similar plan for the rubble of Ukraine. The idea you need to destroy and kill as much as possible in order to force humans to take the techno totalitarian solution to their desperate lives.
Long “Open letter” by Ron Unz to all Israel supporters with some uncomfortable truths for them.
Plus an interesting info and speculation on Adolf Eichmann.
https://www.unz.com/runz/gaza-and-the-dangers-of-jewish-paranoia/
Very interesting article, thanks for flagging. The Eichmann info is intriguing: I wonder if he was planning on writing his memoirs and thus scared the sh*t out of the Israeli govt? Not beyond the bound of reason….
“Do you know that the inventor of modern terrorism is Israel? It’s not without reason that we associate Mossad with assassinations and terror attacks. It’s in their DNA.
In the 10 years before Israel was created, from 1937 to 1947, Israel launched at least 50 major terrorist attacks, blowing up 814 civilian aircrafts, two trains, one ship, and razing 385 Arab villages to the ground. Note that the above are only “major” terrorist attacks.
Between 1947 and 1949, Israel attacked major Palestinian cities, destroying some 530 villages and killing some 15,000 Palestinians in a series of mass atrocities, including dozens of massacres.” https://nitter.net/PandemicTruther/status/1712407670991270344#m
As I say since a long time, the only difference between being labelled terrorist or resistance/freedom fighter/nation founder is success.
the above really surpasses yourself in copying Goebbels saying the biggest lies. For all the time prior to 1947 there was a huge British army presence In Palestine especially during the war years, who apart from anything else would have prevented attacks on Arab villages. In fact during that time the Arabs in the person of the Mufti of Jerusalem were actively assisting and waiting for Rommel to advance.
The NYU Profesor Marc Crispin Miller calls the CV19 so-called vaccine “the perfect crime.”
“It’s the perfect crime because there is a long delay between the pulling of the trigger and the collapse due to the bullet. You see what I mean? Sometimes it can take people two years to succumb to the consequences of taking the shot. It’s the perfect crime. I also liken it to the infamous mass murders of mid-century…
This had much more sophistication than those mass murders. It’s not just the bigger numbers, but they got people to take this willingly. Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot were all coercive…
This is the first mass murder that is the result of getting people to clamor for it. The panic over the Corona virus was so successful that people were craving vaccination—craving it.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/marc-crispin-miller-exposes-rolling-thunder-global-propaganda-campaign
New developments in Germany reg. Plasmid gate: https://norberthaering.de/propaganda-zensur/mdr-dna-verunreinigungen-geloescht/
The MSM station deleted the documentary after it had received complaints/intervention by Big Pharma…
The name of the professor who did the lab analysis was deleted from the Unis webpage.
And so on, many background details.
They are not going down without a continued and ever more dirty fight ….
Sounds and looks familiar:
“It is necessary to understand that the US is not a nation. It is a Tower of Babel. Untold millions of immigrant-invaders enter the country illegally every year, for year after year, and nothing can be done to stop the invasion. The Democrats welcome the invaders as they have ways to add them to Democrat votes. The Republican businessmen welcome the invaders, as they provide cheap labor and hold down US wages.”
https://www.unz.com/proberts/the-american-political-crisis/
“Trump has all of this trouble and stress for two reasons alone: He threatened the powerful military/security complex by threatening to take away their enemy by normalizing relations with Russia, and he threatened the ruling establishment, sometimes referred to as the Deep State, by declaring his intent to take power from them and to give it back to the American people.
The purpose of this punishment of Trump is to send loud and clear the message that any future president or presidential candidate who threatens in any way the ruling establishment will be destroyed.”
From the bit not behind the paywall: ‘To accuse Israel of “a killing rage” and “indiscriminate” assaults is untrue and unfair to an army that surpasses all others in its ability to attack an enemy while doing everything possible to minimise civilian casualties.’
Ah, I get it now. What Ben Wallace ‘misunderstand’ – like a lot of us mere humans – is that, to Richard Kemp, the Israeli govt, the IOF and some religious leaders there simply aren’t any humans in Gaza: they’re either animals or terrorists and thus perfectly justifiable targets. This includes all the non-indigenous too, like the UNWRA ‘scum’ and other aid workers and the ‘lying’ international journalists, as well as the ‘dangerous’ actors, artists and poets, the ‘toxic’ medical staff and the ‘sicko’ Christians and Catholics who won’t/can’t leave.
Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant – Palestinians as ‘human animals’
Israeli Ambassador to Germany Ron Proser – ‘bloodthirsty animals’
Former Israeli UN Ambassador Dan Gillerman – ‘horrible inhuman animals’
Israeli Rabbi Meir Maroz (on TV) – ‘if they were humans we would have sent them humanitarian aid…but this is about animals’
French-Israeli lawyer Nili Kupfer-Naori ‘no innocent civilians in Gaza’ (including newborns, apparently)
Netenyahu’s infamous comparison to the Amaleks
Israeli military & govt references to assaults on Gaza as ‘mowing the lawn’
Me, I’d call that the overtly racist and deliberately dehumanising language of an invading colonialist state to justify genocide and land theft, but what do I know?
We just don’t know – this is the gist of this entry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv3nUClhUdM&list=WL&index=6 “Unanticipated Complications with mRNA Vaccine”. About 18m 50s.