In case there was any remaining doubt that ‘fact-checkers’ are just activists putting their own spin on events, the BBC has abandoned all pretence of impartiality by appointing a Labour Party activist who tweeted “I Love You Jeremy Corbyn” as a ‘political fact-checker’. The Mail has the story.
The BBC has been accused of “obvious bias” after its new political fact-checker was exposed as a hard-Left Labour activist who described Tory MPs as lower than “invertebrates” and said: “never trust a Tory”.
Oscar Bentley made his TV debut on Wednesday’s Politics Live, where he spoke on behalf of the broadcaster’s esteemed Political Research Unit, and was asked to analyse claims Rishi Sunak had made about crime during Prime Minister’s Questions.
He offered a critical analysis of the Tory leader’s use of statistics, saying Mr. Sunak had ignored figures for fraud and computer misuse and adding: “If you take crime actually recorded by police forces, that’s actually gone up.”
Mr Bentley, 25, joined the BBC in September and is expected to play a key role in helping to fact-check political debates in the run-up to the next General Election. The role requires absolute impartiality.
Yet the Daily Mail can reveal that he is actually a lifelong Labour supporter who canvassed for Corbyn at the last election and has repeatedly smeared Conservatives on social media – and at one point boasted about having shouted “Tories out!” at the gates of Downing Street.
Two months before polling day, Mr. Bentley used Twitter to tell followers “never trust a Tory”, and after that May’s local election in York he declared that “seven hours of door knocking yesterday paid off with three Labour wins in Hull Road Ward!”.
When Theresa May was attempting to enact Brexit, he wrote on Twitter: “Tory Government defeated in Parliament, what an early Christmas present” and in December 2018 said: “There are vertebrates, invertebrates, and then there are Tory MPs.”
The previous year he told followers how he’d visited Westminster, saying “shouting ‘Tories out!’ at the gates of Downing Street was immensely satisfying”, adding the hashtag “#toriesout”.
And in April 2019 he expressed “huge solidarity” with Extinction Rebellion, who were engaged in a demonstration in central London. He has also described Labour as “my lads”, and while at York University described himself as a “Lefty student journalist”.
In the aftermath of the Brexit vote, Bentley dubbed Anna Soubry, the remain supporting Conservative MP “literally the only Tory I actually like”. He also described the election of Boris Johnson in 2019 as a “f***ing car crash” and criticised “crusty tories” over education policy.
Mr. Bentley’s public Facebook page carries an image of him doctored to include Jeremy Corbyn’s campaign slogan “for the many not the few” and the words “Vote Labour”.
In a separate post, he uploaded an image of a terrier with a caption endorsing “dogs for Corbyn”, telling friends he was: “Spamming all of my social media with this pic because of the insanely cute doggy. Important politics too.”
On election night he posted: “please win Jeremy Corbyn, I love you so much, be my Prime Minister, please.”
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“Paper’s please” to me translates as “Rope, Tree, politician, help with assembly please”.
If he ever had any credibility it much surely have disappeared after this “cannot be bothered to get vaccinated” comments about care home workers. He’s despicable.
“If we’re going to pretty much take away people’s freedom, you’ve got to have a really good reason to do it and I don’t think we have that reason at this point.”
This, I think, says it all.
The good reason being what exactly.. glorified flu ????
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That is the kind response!
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“We Can’t Get Away With Vaccine Passports This Week But Will Try Again Next Week”, Implies Sajid Jabit
And, meanwhile, care-home workers are the immediate next victims!
You wouldn’t be sacking health workers in a real pandemic. That more than anything else shows what a scam this is.
And those health workers almost certainly have already been exposed to covid during the first wave when our caring NHS discharged infectious elderly to care homes.
Exactly. In a real emergency you don’t care who treats the sick as long as they are qualified and not sick themselves.
Dr Peter McCullough mentioned a recent study in Finland in one of his videos. Turns out that double jabbed carehome staff are passing on the virus to the frail double jabbed residents and killing them. Afterall these jabs neither prevent infection nor transmission and according to a study in the Lancet of healthcare workers in Asia, seems if double jabbed your viral load can increase by 251%. Maybe that’s the plan as it’s perfectly clear they are trying to get rid of a number of people. So for the frail carehome residents, if the jab doesn’t kill you, nor the lack of care due to no staff, rest assured there is another thing that might. Despicable and how people cannot see this is truly unbelievable.
One of the problems with being jabbed is that, via ‘bad science’ and PR from officials/government on the media, they have convinced most members of the public that these vaccines (unlike the vast majority in the past) make you immune – they do not – at most, they give a small reduction in the ability to be infected and infect others, but is nostly to confer protection against serious illness (i.e. requiring hospitalistion) and death – mainly in the elderly and clinically vulnerable.
As such, many of them are taking perhaps undue risks in everyday behaviour, ironically including continually re-using facemasks, fiddling with them (and thus potentially contaminating them with all number of nasties), many of which can easily make them seriously ill.
That because many contract COVID in either a hosptial or nursing home setting is more likely because of poor hygeine -poor management including a lacking of funding for the number/quality of staff needed – than because of unvaccinated staff per se.
What doesn’t help further is that many people in these groups on the other hand continue to be too risk averse in other aspects of their lives, such as not getting enough fresh air, sun and exercise – sans face masks (which reduce airflow and increase the likelihood of getting other infections because of not using higher-grade masks and using them as medical staff do [because its impractical, physically impossible or too expensive – e.g. changing them when touched or taking them off]).
Too many – including neighbours, friends and relatives, many of whom need to live more healthily anyway, are still staying cooped up at home and worrying about COVID when they should have thought about what to do personally to avoid high risks but with having the lowest impact on their daily lives – including social lives.
It appears only the young – mainly the I don’t give a **** types and those savvy on the political Right have been doing this and are leading reasonably normal lives – including making some improvements to their own health (including mental) to help themselves, including to fight off COVID should they get it.
I myself am now fitter than I was prior to the start of pandemic and am taking steps to improve mental health by re-acquainting myself with friends, former colleagues, etc as well as doing more to keep me occupied rather than, as many have done, sit in front oa TV or computer all day (I realise the irony of that given this and other comments over the last hour, but I now ration myself to less use per day).
I don’t think that the ‘amelioration of symptoms’ is standing up too well to examination, either.
excellent post and observations Lister. I made a lot of the same points to my elderly relatives only the other day and hate to see them both wedded to their face masks and fiddling with the re-usable fabric ones they have, taking them out of their pockets and shoving them back in etc
Which one of the ‘vast’ majority of snake oils are you referring to? After a year of looking I haven’t found any!! For example UK measles mortality in 1900 was roughly 1250 per million in 1900, by the time the widespread jab programme was introduced in the early 60s it was below 5 per million, and any decrease is minimal compared with the decrease in the preceding 60 years. As Edward Kass M.D Ph.d said in a speech in 1970, jabs have taken all the credit for things like clean water, sanitation, better living conditions, and the ability to keep food fresher. Michael Alderton’s book of 1981 covers international mortality for many infectious diseases, shows much the same thing for flu, TB, Polio, Diphtheria etc…….. PR from the media/Politicians/Big Pharma and their puppets has been going on for over 100 years. Jabs have gained mythological status around the world driven by people who benefit most from their use. I’ve had all the ‘vast’ jabs (except the CONvid one), and had all my children jabbed by the way…..although only through complete ignorance, which was my level a year or so ago before researching. Most GPs are just as ignorant having been trained ONLY in the order in which to dish them out ,rather than the ingredients, absolute risk against a disease and side effects.
Just playing devil’s advocate here for a moment (but in the interests of avoiding potential embarrassment / counterattacks if this turns out to be debatable): see
http://www.oucru.org/our-preprint-article-transmission-of-sars-cov-2-delta-variant-among-vaccinated-healthcare-workers-vietnam/
I’ve only alighted on that – which surprise, surprise, is the part extracted elsewhere by the ‘fact checkers’; so I hope anyone who’s since had time to look into this in more detail and considered it in the round can say whether or not the above article is itself open to criticism.
btw I find Dr Peter McCullough’s work very useful for learning about issues the “mainstream” media omit, particularly on his SARS-Cov-2 prevention regime.
https://www.americaoutloud.com/category/podcasts/the-mccullough-report/
Sadly when I visited a local pharmacy the other day I found that one of the ingredients of some of the early prevention regimes out there was seemingly unavailable (reason unknown, maybe just their supplier) and the pharmacist said another, Zantac (ranitidine – for antioxidant effect) had been taken off-market in 2019. I’ve taken that without checking. btw the pharmacist also said yes, Ivermectin is prescription only – and ‘very expensive'[!]
Ivermectin should be as cheap as chips. The Indian state of Uttar Pradesh have administered it state-wide and have now declared the state to be covid-free.
People can’t see it because they aren’t shown it and don’t go looking for it. There needs to be a way of exposing the truth. Mass pamphleting?
That’s a good way of spreading information, preferably posting in places where people can read the message – if you just hand pamphlets out you’ll just find a trail of crumpled, discarded ones all up the street.
Bus stops – people are more likely to read the info when waiting for the next bus. The information needs to be really punchy, though: Eg, Do you know that according to Public Health England, only 6 healthy people under the age of 18 died of Covid-19 in 2020?
Do you know that the vaccines don’t stop people catching or spreading the virus?
I repeat, what option is there for care home residents who want to be cared for by people who have not taken dangerous experimental medication? (And are there implications who have become registered carers to get paid for looking after family members?
Which jab are you talking about? the CONvid one or the Midazolam one which was excessively used (way beyond previous levels) , and probably accounts for a good third of care home deaths. When you have lack of autopsies, no scrutiny, and downright lies written on deaths certificates as cause of death, you can literally get away with murder!!! (and they have)
double jabbed = massive drop in immune T cells that looks like auto immune disease – so after the first two jabs you are considered ‘unvaxxed ’ for two weeks – so when you get sick, injured or die it’s not related to a vax – so here we go round the merry go
You also have to take into account that these fired people are not just “lost jobs”, they are “lost careers”. Because I cannot imagine that someone maltreated and aggravated by this gross injustice is ever going to return to work in their field again. It’s safe to say some people may even turn criminal. But somehow nobody up there seems to care about the long-term consequences.
Probably because they used the ‘opportunity’ of Dunblane to remove the guns from British society (except for the ones used by toffs natch) there is little chance of them suffering the wrath of those forced by HMG’s actions to ‘turn criminal’.
Lets face it, if there was a God, Bojo would have died in the ICU.
We are on our own, but without the means for self preservation.
It’s bad enough having the fraudsters riding on the back of this. We really don’t need the gun lobby as well.
Bear in mind that would mind Gove would be in control and Hanock would still be Health Secretary.
Boris didn’t even have Covid – I called it fake as soon as I heard. He’s a pathological liar and a fraud.
What would he have died of in ICU?? I always though feigned illness have a mortality rate of zero
Perhaps Javid has a lot of relations in Pakistan that he can invite over, and they can fill the places of the sacked carers?
Some might just go away and die, same as with people who were turned off of land that they had worked for generations by the enclosures. Last year’s heroes are today’s collateral damage.
Notice how the vaccine passport scheme don’t include those who have (far better) natural immunity due to previously contracting the virus. Thus it cannot be for public health reasons why they are wanting to implement them. It’s all about control.
And making money!
I suspect it will be a case that come next the election (if it happens) the likes of this Health Sec will be hounded and haunted wherever he goes with “go get another job”. This davos banker will deserve it.
I’m sure all of these government ministers know that but are secure in the knowledge that they will receive huge kickbacks from Big Pharma (and excellent private security) after they are booted out of office.
When I have a sleepless night, I forswear sheep-counting and instead imagine enormous number boards, like modern cricket scoreboards, counting up the backhanders accumulating for Johnson, Hancock, the Brothers Grim and the rest of the vile coterie. On chilly evenings, this has the added advantage of warming me up with fury.
Were it just simple back-handers.
General elections in the UK count for nothing anyway. The system is rigged to stop genuine opposition rising to a position that they can be any sort of meaningful threat to the incumbent regime in Westminster. It’s difficult to see an avenue for a way to remove them that doesn’t involve a coup.
“The system is rigged …“
The main rigging is the complacent support of the large part of populace who like to moan, but do f.all.
[Posted previously under Round Up, but seems more specifically relevant here.]
talkRADIO
Former Brexit Secretary David Davis MP says the Government is using “covert coercion” to “bully young people” to get vaccinated.
https://twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1445293021172469760
No shit, David?
Are we seeing some of the former liberty-defending “Conservatives” recovering from the covid funk they descended into last year, during which they’ve mostly been basically useless?
JHB: “As one of my guests earlier was pointing out … there’s no social distancing at this conference, barely anyone is wearing a mask, in fact people stand out for wearing a mask”
And yet this “Conservative” Party is run by people who are still pushing vaccine coercion and still pandering to covid fear propaganda. They “won’t take [vaccine passports] off the table”, and they will extend the emergency powers enabling act.
Davis: “My view is, look if you want to persuade young people to get vaccinated, go out and spend lots of money on telling them…I actually agree with spending money here…I don’t care of you bribe them..”
This is how far our “Conservative” Party has fallen into the big government, paternalist, nanny state mentality – even the most “libertarian” fringe members of the Parliamentary party see no problem whatsoever with using taxpayers’ money to manipulate opinion and behaviour for the [supposed] greater good.
How dare he spend our money on endangering young people who are at the moment healthy.
What and absurd statement. He’s against coercion/bullying but absolutely fine with bribery. What an utter moron.
But he refused to row back on his plan to make it mandatory for care workers to have to be fully vaccinated by next month if they are to continue in the profession.
S.45E Public Health Act 1984 makes it unlawful to coerce medical treatment on any individual – and this specifically includes being jabbed……..why is nobody putting this to our Health Secretary?
They’ve got away with so much in the past 18 months that they literally do think they are above the law now, and are pretty confident that the judiciary aren’t going to do anything to rein them in.
Too confident is precisely when people mess-up so massively they get crashed
He may yet have to row back
The cretin is openly telling everyone that he is carrying a big stick and bragging about the fact that in the UK you just need to wave the stick a bit and people jump into line, whereas on the continent, flashing the stick isn’t enough. You actually need to beat a few people to get them into line.
And he’s telling everyone that he’ll use the stick if he needs to,.
And we now live in a society where this doesn’t shock, it doesn’t unsettle people, we just nod along. “Yep, better do as he says or he’ll use the stick”
I spent some time pointing out some home truths to some relatives today – all who completely espouse the masks, testing, vaccines – and scored some hits – I could literally see them realising they might have been had. For the first time someone was running the massive fraud past them and the penny might have begun to drop. One relly was a bit discombobulated when I pointed out that the next state medical intervention might be to force them to “donate” a kidney – if you start with a jab where does it stop?
Someone else posted this here a few weeks ago, but you mentioned sticks…
‘No good reason’ is right.
See this https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.39.2100822 from the most Pfizer vaccinated country on the planet.
If ‘thescience’ was being followed and not just being trotted out as a sound bite then this would halt all talk of vaccine passports and halt the continued policy of jabbing the mRNA brew into an ignorant public.
From the Monotti/Yeadon T channel.
The government’s new Covid pass exemption ‘guidance’. No more self-exemption, apparently.
It’s time to go to the courts against both and time to try everything to stop this and tbem.
Otherwise, they will introduce it, expand it and tighten the screws ever further.
That’s a fact and certainty.
“Covid Pass” should be avoided and resisted. However you don’t need an injection to get one if your job depends on it, you could be exempt.
“Please be careful here if you use this. The review of your application is final and cannot be appealed. It’s a trap really to fall into for many reasons. Best to just avoid those requiring the pass if you can” @ClareWH
This is the official exemption procedure in the UK:
“How to apply for and receive your COVID Pass medical exemption
Phone the NHS COVID Pass service on 119 to ask for an NHS COVID Pass medical exemptions application form.
You can also call to find out more information about COVID Pass medical exemptions.
The call handler at the NHS COVID Pass service will ask you some questions. You will need to give:
your name
your date of birth
your NHS number (if you know it)
the name of your GP and/or specialist clinician
2. If you’re eligible to apply, you’ll get an application form by post.
You should not ask your GP for an application form. If you do go to your GP before you get your application form you’ll be asked to call the NHS COVID pass service on 119.
3. Return your application form to the GP or relevant clinician stated on the form. Your application will be clinically reviewed by your doctor, specialist or midwife. Your GP, specialist or midwife may ask to speak with you if needed, but you won’t need to book this when you submit your application.
4. You’ll automatically get the results of your application by post 2 to 3 weeks after applying. You don’t need to contact your GP or the clinician reviewing your exemption unless they ask you to contact them.
5. If you get a medical exemption you can use the domestic NHS COVID Pass wherever you need to.
The pass won’t show others that you have a medical exemption, just that you have the NHS COVID Pass.”
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/covid-19-medical-exemptions-proving-you-are-unable-to-get-vaccinated
Don’t go along with this.
Agree. Resistance and complete non-cooperation is the only way forward.
“A strange game. The only winning move is not to play”
Shall we all call the medical exemption line and ask for their medical details before we hand over ours?
“have you ever had an STD test?” would be fun to ask the Gauleiter
Hold the line. No compliance.
I read this yesterday and spent the rest of my evening as furious as I have been for a while. They will so clearly lean on GP’s not to issue exemptions. My wife had refused the jab since my mother was given her clot shot and months of injections + blood thinning tablets, wife has clotting in her family and embolisms, and is pretty scared to add anything to her system, when she previously asked her GP for an exemption they refused to entertain such a measure. Saying “it’s not mandatory, so we can’t exempt anyone”.
Indeed, forget the official route.
Same as medical certificates for mask exemptions on the continent: no more chance after the BMA equivalents threatened their members/subjects.
But maybe/hopefully, there still remains the other, current option;
The original, still active and valid, common law based self-exemption was FROM the requirement to show the Covid Pass DOMESTICALLY- it was never vamid for travel or abroad.
This is FROM jabbing/testing, and if granted, it then gives you the ‘green’ Covid pass and the status of a double (triple etc.) vaxxed, valid domestically AND for travel and abroad (where the UK has reciprocal agreements)- with the latter likely being the main and real reason for this new procedure.
My hunch and hope here then is that, similar to and for the same common law based reason and inalienable individual right as with masks (no consent etc.), the self-exemption must still be honoured DOMESTICALLY, meaning you can just walk into any venue in England (UK?) demanding the pass without it, if you just state and claim so.
Time for the lawyers to clarify/confirm that and/or to finally get off their backsides.
wouldn’t expect you should get too many hopes up about that common law exemption Jaybee. Screws are deffo tightening.
Same here – clotting and all kids of vascular illness hereditary in my genes too – plus I suffer from a combination of illnesses my GP will barely even recognise never mind appreciate that the jab will never have been tested against that illness profile – but will he exempt me when he gets paid for jabbing me??? what kind of practice of medicine is this???
The exemption shouldn’t be medical, it should be based on FREE CHOICE, for any old reason you want. That is the point of freedom!
She nails it.
At the Tory conference.
To no avail.
Bevause they share Merkel’s understanding of democracy and the rule of law:
“For the government I can say, we want to abide by the law and will do so wherever necessary.”
https://lauradodsworth.substack.com/p/vaccine-passports-not-the-happy-ending?r=rajs8&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&utm_source=
“If we’re going to pretty much take away people’s freedom, you’ve got to have a really good reason to do it and I don’t think we have that reason at this point.”
All one needs to know about them and how they tick.
A blatantly wrong and unconstitutional fundamental attitude, rooted in and reerecting the master/servant or ruler/serf relationship and desire.
You beat me to it!
The left is even worse, of course.
And too many in business and society, and all in tbe civil service and related, seem to share this mindset again.
Which also shows that this system is simply not reformable, only replaceable.
Unfortunately, that can and will only happen after a huge catastrophe, likely bankrupcy induced by hyperinflation.
To prevent it from ever happening again and to truly ‘build back better’ thereafter, more direct democracy (which only empowers the media ever more), or new parties are not the solution (see France, En marche).
The only solution is a fundamentally libertarian society in which politics is performed through people chosen by sortition, as it was the case originally, for exactly those reasons and the prevention of those inevitable flaws and dangers.
The only solution is Christianity. Capitalism unfettered by morality, the pursuit of greed, the pursuit of power, are taking us back to the Dark Ages.
Not sure Christianity is the ONLY solution. We have (had) the rule of law that protects individual rights and freedoms and prevents big companies from wielding too power. Big tech need to be forced by law to behave like carriers not publishers, and prevented from censoring anything.
plus we have something that looks a lot more like progressive feudalism than capitalism.
Comes to the same thing.
it very much does not. it looks a lot more like marxism for the rich.
… which is a contradictory nonsense trope for the politically illiterate.
Christianity is very much not the solution. Many of us do not believe in any religion.
And have you had any involvement with the CofE? I have, and can honestly say it’s the most disgusting, two-faced, hypocritical and self-serving organisation I have ever had the misfortune to encounter.
“The story of injustice being inflicted by the Church of England upon Prof Martyn Percy, Dean of Christ Church, Oxford, has been grinding on now for over three months, and the reputation of the Established Church for justice, mercy and humility has been eroding with it every day.”
https://archbishopcranmer.com/christ-church-martyn-percy-conspiracy-lawyers-pr-safeguarding/
You seem to be confusing ‘Christianity’ with the Church of England. One’s a personal faith, the other is a money-making organisation with dodgy officials.
Christianity – or rather, its institutional expression, is right behind this business, and is, itself all about power.
You are confusing the formal institutions of christianity and their garbled, modern interpretations with the basic Biblical Christian message. That I suspect is what SB intended.
She is of course correct.
A life lived closely according to the Commandments won’t be a bad or offensively lived life.
… which begs the question of what is “the basic Biblical Christian message” to be extracted from this selected melange of contradictory (if interesting) texts which provokes, like Heinz, 57 varieties of message according to taste, ranging from the credibly humanistic to the bug-eyed apocalyptic?
The Commandments, BTW, aren’t ‘Christian’ – just adopted Jewish material from earlier times.
Sorry about repetitively speaking in tongues.
… which begs the question of what is “the basic Biblical Christian message” to be extracted from this selected melange of contradictory (if interesting) texts which provokes, like Heinz, 57 varieties of message according to taste, ranging from the credibly humanistic to the bug-eyed apocalyptic?
Remember ‘Christianity’ is, from the early days an establishment control phenomenon, first defined by the bureaucratic Council of Nicaea in the 4th Century. It picked the texts that suited the power structures of the time, and told the rest to f.off and whistle. Various sects, as well as the big boys have been doing the same ever since.
The Commandments, BTW, primarily aren’t ‘Christian’ – just adopted Jewish material from earlier times and slung together with others, ancient and modern to make up the official ‘Bible’.
You pays your money and takes your pick at the jumble sale – a ‘Loving God’, or a ranting, sadistic homicidal maniac who drowns the world and creates the mental disturbance of the Apocalypse vision? It’s your choice, because everybody else stitches their own.
But, its the institutions that dominate in the bidding war to define sense out of the textual porridge.
Yawn.
Council of Nicea = WHO = IPCC
Constantine = WEF = Club of Rome
Same game.
I would be quite happy to have a solution that doesn’t involve religion.
These words If we’re going to pretty much take away people’s freedom, you’ve got to have a really good reason to do it and I don’t think we have that reason at this point.”
should send shivers down everyone’s spine. What gives ‘Jackboot Javid’’ or anyone else in Government the right to take away people’s freedom because they choose to exercise their right, for whatever reason, not to be jabbed? Still think that we live in a Democracy?
make it crystal clear now that it isn’t about a virus any more – if indeed it ever was.
So English sheeples don’t need bullying and coercing because they are so good at bullying and coercing themselves.
Of course it’s ok to take away people’s freedom in Scotland, and Wales. Or if they have the bad luck to be in a job that Savij Jabbid has got his knife into.
And it’s ok to take away people’s freedom to enter your premises if you’re an organisation of malevolent Fascist cowards.
And it’s perfectly ok to stop people leaving the country because they have some respect for their own bodies.
“certainly better than nothing“
Don’t bet on it. Clearly, there needs to be a build-up. Watch this space as the hysteria generator gets speeded up as infections climb towards the new year.
You mean (false) positive PCR ct 40 test results…
PCR testing will have its role – but this will be on the back of a genuine (but unremarkable) seasonal rise in all sorts of respiratory infections
It has a role already. Just not the one for which it’s being used. We’re told it can’t detect ‘infection’ and that won’t change, seasonal rise or not.
Which viral infections will the PCR testing be revealing?
It’s later than expected. I expected hysteria to be well ramped up by now, especially after Toad signalled half term would be cancelled. They must be looking very hard at the variants currently…
But maybe also waiting to see what happens with the jabbing of children, which they well know is a risk for them.
Yes … but groundwork is being done with the sustaining of a ‘pandemic’ and ‘wave’ narrative, ready to take off at an appropriate point.
I may, of course, be wrong, but …..
Or waiting to see how many ADE instances occur.
Just as with face masks in July 2020, the government is admitting this idea isn’t about stopping infections where the rule applies but to do some other “greater good.” With masks it was to induce confidence (ha) but might have caused more harm than any good it did produce.
Now with passports it’s not about safety, since the vaccinated (which I am) can still pass along or get sick with Covid. So it’s all about strong arming people who we don’t need to be jabbed for high levels of immunity. Orwell died too soon, he could have sold millions with a book about this “conservative government.” I wonder how much of the “you need a booster to still be approved” aspect and the fact that families with children under 16 would have taken it to court because the vaccination wasn’t approved by the JCVI. Either way, I really loathe this government.
“since the vaccinated (which I am) can still pass along or get sick with Covid.”
Yes – currently a close family member, double-jabbed, is pretty rough with SARS (so much about ameliorating symptoms, too).
The person who ‘died’ too soon was Kary Mullis the inventor of PCR……He’d have been allover this utter EVIL bollocks like a rash. without the use of fraudulent data from his test there is NOTHING, no virus, no infection rates, no spreading, no mortality, and no snake oil poison
“If we’re going to pretty much take away people’s freedom, you’ve got to have a really good reason to do it and I don’t think we have that reason at this point.””
Well they haven’t had a good reason so far and that hasn’t stopped them.
Nails it.
“If we’re going to pretty much take away people’s freedom, you’ve got to have a really good reason to do it and I don’t think we have that reason at this point.”
But Sajid, I thought Covid Passes gave people freedom in your Orwellian world? This is quite a big admission from this charlatan.
Just a slip of the teeth.
The key words being Right Now. They have every intention of rolling them out!
Or Ever
Anything to do with the judgement to look at child vaccinations
Immunity Passports????
Wow. No longer a vaccine passport.
Shame this vaccine doesn’t confer any immunity lol.
They are catching up to the realization that it should not be so evident to the masses that the “passports” just just a blatant marketing tool for selling vaccines (using tax money). The salesmen in Germany were more clever about it and avoided the words “passport” and “vaccine” altogether, instead inventing “recovered/vaccinated rule”, which is hidden beyond the “2G” euphemism/acronym so that nobody needs to be reminded that it is about forced vaccination.
if it was SUCH an immunity passport then there would be a slot on it to show results from an antibody/T cell test.
TBH – doesn’t matter what they call it – vaxx passport, immunity passport, freedom pass, health pass, etc etc etc – fact remains it is ‘papers please’ – apartheid based on whether or not someone is prepared to hand over their autonomy over their body to the state.
They obviously have something else planned.. something else on their minds.. like finding enough drivers to transport the hydrofluoric acid canisters to the water treatment plants. Cos good old Javid is worried about our pegs.. bless him..
https://www.wakingtimes.com/fluoridated-water-the-ultimate-evil/
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/ershdb/emergencyresponsecard_29750030.html
Just finished the ‘survey’ (second one) on this subject:
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/proposal-for-mandatory-covid-certification-in-a-plan-b-scenario-call-for-evidence
Even less room for proper responses than the last time, with many questions that are leading and only 150 word responses for why (you can easily go beyond but other than counting up yourself, there’s no way to know if you have or that the response has been accepted).
The hand of Gove is still there. I think they’re lyinbg again, pretending to not ‘want’ this but in a month or so inventing ‘pressure’ on the NHS ‘justify’ – reluctantly – in going for vaccine passports.
I stated that given the high rate of vaccination generally – especially in vulnerable groups, why would they be needed? Most of the circumstances they gave for using them are either ones that are mainly used by the young (and thus not needed because they can fight off the virus easily or, are vaccinated because they are vulnerable) or where those attending have been vaccinated or conciously chosen not to be for personal or medical reasons, and know the risk.
Either way, if they are designed for medical reasons to reduce transmission, they barely have an impact on the hospitalisation and death rates (see above), and thus I concluded they are just to coerce or force people into getting jabbed, which is hardly the actions of a democracy, especially when these specific vaccines are mostly brand new tech and the first for a family of viruses and have yet to be tested over the longer term.
I also suspect they are being developed are dual use as social credit systems – including to remove cash from transactions because it cannot be tracked and further increases the power of big corporations, officials and government over the ordinary citizen and small business.
It’s also no coincidence that some are trying to merge them with ‘green’ passes for a person’s carbon footprint and to include ‘carbon trading’, which siginificantly benefits the already rich and powerful because they can afford to buy them and then enjoy stress-free foreign trips/holidays and car journeys without us plebs getting in their way and making them wait, etc.
This just about says it all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GukIoZ8d3Ew
“Right now.”
I see you, you sleazy little bastard.
Sin of omission on the part of either Javid or The Evening Standard: “In France, proof of being double jabbed must be shown before entering a restaurant or bar”. The missing words are …. or proof of having recovered from the virus or of having tested negative. The idea is being pushed subtly that only with “vaccination” will we be able to live and travel freely.
The same is true for Italy, the other country he mentions.
Don’t forget Lithuania:
https://txti.es/covid-pass/images
nothing subtle about it
There’ll be no good reason to introduce vaccine passports until at least we have an actual vaccine, jackass!
Hands up who gave Javid the benefit of the doubt and hoped he couldn’t possibly be as bad as that ingrown toenail Matt Hancock!
When do I have to wear the ‘Star of Javid’?
I hope’s it’s yellow. Oh I do like yellow!
American college football player hospitalized with “undisclosed” ailment.
One wonders if this is a case of vaccine-caused myocarditis cardiac-related event?
If so, it’s not surprising it will be covered up … or they will try to cover it up.
If it can be shown that officials KNEW the risks of myocarditis from vaccination were greatly increased and school and sports league officials still forced these athletes to be vaccinated, you have a potential “game-changer” of epic proportions. The liability has to be massive and if enough of these cases were publicized it would kill the mandatory vaccine efforts especially among younger age cohorts.
I suspect there will be many more such mysterious hospitalizations and probably, at some point, deaths …. even on the playing field.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32339225/minnesota-golden-gophers-rb-trey-potts-hospital-improving-school-says
It’s a tricky one. I can’t say it’s totally promising but at the same time there are positives. The UK hasn’t (yet) gone down the route of France / Italy et al. Perhaps because – as Javid alluded to – the propaganda campaign has been so effective that most people have been desperate to get their vaccine here..
Since Javid has come in, I’ve personally felt that we are moving in the right direction. He is skeptical of SAGE, he also seems cynical about vaccine passports, so far, at least.
Is he our shining knight who has come to the rescue? No. But does he at least show glimmers that he isn’t an evil totalitarian a la Hancock, Johnson, Macron, etc? Yes.
Irrespective of what Javid says, there should be a legal challenge against travel restrictions for unvaccinated. Discrimination is wrong, its as simple as that. We need to get on the front foot and fight the discrimination and abuse with action. Let’s stand up for ourselves and protect our rights.
He SAYS he is sceptical of SAG(E) and he SAYS he doesn’t want ‘passports’ (yet). He’s just as bad as the rest of them, but we’re hoping for a candle in the dark. They’re all liars, cheats and manipulators – it’s just that some are better at it than others.
As for a ‘legal challenge’ – it’s to be hoped that the courts remain uncorrupted and unbiased. Or are we too late?
This is all a spook.. the UK signed up in July to join the EU Health Pass scheme.. and planning is going on behind the scenes. The supposed public consultation is total bullshit. They want that vax passport come hell or high water..
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/uk-brink-joining-eu-passport-scheme-sources-confirm-nhs-system/
https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2021/09/24/uk-close-to-joining-eu-covid-vaccine-passport-scheme/
Have a read of this via the Torygraph..
So he’s openly admitting the vax passport program “pretty much take(s) away people’s freedom.”
Meanwhile, in the fascist state of Wales, it’s “papers please” from next Monday.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/live-updates-senedd-members-vote-21767140
It wouldn’t have passed had it not been for the Tory MS who couldn’t get on to Zoom to vote. How is that democracy FFS?
On the contrary, Mr Javid, they should be introduced and immediately shoved up your arse.
“My name is Captain Concasseur. You have a sense of humour. I appreciate humour. I am in favour of jokes. They have political value. Jokes are a release for the cowardly and the impotent” – Graham Greene (‘The Comedians’)
“The Health Secretary said: “I’m driven by the evidence….”
Immediately followed by:
“…..and if you look at countries who have enforced vaccine passports – and you mention France and Italy as example – I think … their motivating factor was to significantly increase their vaccine take up rate.”
My belief is that ‘evidence’ is normally associated with science which, in this case, is absolouly vital.
Javid clearly believes ‘covid evidence’ is political opinion, as distinct from medical science.
He has no qualification in science, medical or otherwise. Not exactly the sort to inspire confidence, is he?
When are these authoritarians going to admit it isn’t “vaccine hesitancy” … it’s experimental gene therapy refusal. No amount of coercion is going to change my mind. The harder they push; the more my heels dig in.
“No good reason to introduce vaccine passports” …. not now NOT EVER. They are the policy of a Dictatorship.
Dear Sajid , no good reason to introduce vaccine passports EVER! If you think there are, you’re not the right person for the job as you have a distinct inability to think critically.
Perhaps you should write to him directly, because I doubt very much that he’s reading this on a Wednesday morning during his coffee break.
That word ”hesitancy” is a trigger for me. Rather like ”safe” and ”allowed” and ”surge” (etc).
PS Wouldn’t it be nice to have a ”Health Secretary” for once who actually had qualification or experience in medicine, science or social care? And someone like Senator Rand Paul who could grill them now and then….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI_Dm3pj3dQ