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Mainstream Media’s New Obsession: Labelling Criticism of 15-Minute Cities ‘Conspiracy Theories’

by Rebekah Barnett
27 March 2023 12:17 PM

“Conspiracy theories” about 15-minute cities are “false”, “unhinged”, “dangerous” and “not to be believed”, declare mainstream media in unified chorus.

“In recent years, conspiracy theories that were once almost unheard of have spread like wildfire, with a growing number of Australians now sceptical of things like vaccines, 5G and election results,” News.com.au reports in one such article, titled, ‘Inside the 15-minute city conspiracy theory sucking in gullible Australians’.

The article explains that 15-minutes cities (also called Smart Cities) are a commonsense way of attempting to boost liveability for residents. City dwellers in proposed Smart Cities – including Melbourne, Paris, London, Edmonton and Oxford – will have access to everything they need within a 15 to 20-minute walk, cycle or public transport trip, and that’s really all there is to it.

“Anyone who has ever faced a long and painful commute will immediately see the appeal of having the daily essentials at their fingertips,” the article assures readers.

However, “gullible Australians” who cannot appreciate commonsense or convenience have been “sucked in” to a “dangerous conspiracy”. These “unhinged” conspiracy theorists actually believe that Smart Cities are “part of a secret plan by global elites to restrict people’s freedom and movements” – a form of lockdown justified by climate action.

Never mind that Western governments have just spent the past three years abusing their powers with gross overreach and wanton disregard for their citizens’ will or wellbeing, which might make some people nervous about giving government more control over movement, commerce, energy consumption and the like. The article notes that conspiracies about 15-minute cities have been flagged as “false information” on Facebook, so that really settles it, they’re definitely false.

The Victorian Government claims that Smart Cities are a benefits-only proposition, as depicted in the nice pastel coloured infographic on the official Government page detailing plans for Melbourne’s transformation into a Smart City. These plans extend to regional Victoria also. Residents in the Yarra Ranges (just under an hour’s drive from Melbourne) report that their council is already implementing a Smart City Urban Development Framework.

Victorian Government 20-minute neighbourhood infographic

Smart City conspiracy theory reporting comes as the latest micro-meme in the larger meme of ‘cooker watch’ reporting, whereby media outlets clutch pearls and catastrophise over the proliferation of online ‘cookers’ expressing distrust in the government and big corporations.

At the same time as raising the alarm about ‘conspiracy theorists’, the media have relentlessly and without a hint of self-awareness published the most scientifically dubious theories themselves. Some of these false theories include: natural immunity is not effective, when studies have consistently demonstrated otherwise; your vaccine keeps others safe, long after the high level of ‘breakthrough’ infections was plain; Covid vaccines do not affect reproductive health, when the evidence of adverse events points in the other direction; masks reduce the spread of Covid, when no high quality study has found a significant effect; and, there are no safe or effective early treatments of Covid, when numerous studies have identified benefits from repurposed drugs.

In rare edge cases, such as the tragic shooting of Queensland police officers by Nathaniel, Gareth and Stacey Train, most media have been quick to blame conspiracy theorist communities for the violence, hinting at the need for increased regulation of online ‘wrongthink’ in order to prevent further violence. In reality, these things are always complex.

Mainstream media reporting rarely, if at all, addresses the role of the Government in seeding distrust, or of the media’s own role in facilitating the marginalisation and even radicalisation of mentally unstable people like gunman Nathaniel Train. Train lost his job due to his vaccination status, and endured years of social and economic deprivation and isolation imposed by his government, reinforced by a relentless media campaign in which people of his ilk were portrayed as morally bankrupt idiots unworthy of a place in society. Did anyone pause to consider the effects of such policies and campaigns on those who were already mentally vulnerable? Effects like pushing the already marginalised further out to the fringes of society and discourse?

It looks as though the ‘cooker’ contingent in Western populations is not insignificant. The Edelman Trust Barometer Global Report of 2023 found that of 32,000 respondents surveyed across 28 countries, nearly half considered the Government and the media to be sources of ‘false’ or ‘misleading’ information. A quarter of Canadians believe in online ‘conspiracy theories’, according to a large poll conducted in 2021. A Rasmussen Report found that more than a quarter of Americans think that they know someone who died from Covid vaccines, and almost half of Americans believe it is likely that Covid vaccines are driving unexplained deaths. A 2023 peer-reviewed paper titled ‘The role of social circle COVID-19 illness and vaccination experiences in COVID-19 vaccination decisions’ found that almost a quarter of respondents reported that they knew someone who had experienced a severe health problem after Covid vaccination, and that this was a driver of vaccine hesitancy.

Source: Edelman Trust Barometer Global Report 2023 (p10)

The media’s response to the distrust of this fairly significant swathe of the population is typically to belittle, insult and defame them, ad infinitum. Which makes one wonder – who is the media’s ‘news’ aimed at, and what is the goal of such inflammatory content?

So here we go, full steam ahead. Smart Cities are coming whether the people want it or not. The Yarra Ranges council in Victoria has put out a statement warning residents to be, “wary of incorrect information circulating in their communities” about Smart City development in the region, which seems to be advancing despite pushback from the local community. In Oxford, U.K., Heritage Party leader David Kurten says that the majority of the residents do not want the implementation of the Smart City framework, which thus far has focused heavily on surveillance cameras and limitations on free movement. That the Council intends to go ahead with plans regardless of the will of the people, “makes a mockery of democracy”, says Kurten.

What will be interesting to observe as Smart City planning progresses is, what gets implemented first? Better infrastructure and support for small businesses, childcare and playgrounds within local hubs? Or systems and technology to facilitate control of movement, commerce and energy? The Oxford experience hints at the latter.

For the time being, the media’s great obsession with 15-minute city conspiracy theories gives a tell. Anyone raising questions about the great plans being imposed on us is stupid and dangerous, say the mainstream media, delegitimising and shutting down debate. This is how we know that powerful interests are very much invested in Smart Cities moving forward, unopposed.

Rebekah Barnett reports from Western Australia. She holds a BA (Hons First Class) in Communications. Find her work at Dystopian Down Under.

Tags: 15-Minute CitiesClimate AlarmismClimate JournalismConspiracy TheoriesFact checkMainstream MediaNet ZeroPropaganda

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago

The biggest casualty of this pandemic has been one’s faith in humanity.

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Covidiot
Covidiot
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Quite, though here as I am, ready to support Djokovic’s decision tooth and nail, I thought one good thing that could come out of this was him using his considerable platform to speak honestly and openly about what he thought of vaccination mandates and the madness of the last 2 years in general. It would have been great if he could use his media presence to stick up for the millions who feel the same. To data he has not done that at all, so far quietly acquiescing with the decision.

I’m left with the impression, so far, that Djokovic is only focussed on his own selfish ambitions and has no thought for others in worse situations due to mandates. It’s a shame tat winning titles seems to be more important than basic human rights and freedoms.

I hope, in time, he proves me wrong

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  Covidiot

Perhaps once he is safely back in the territory of a free liberal democracy he will be able to speak more freely.

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Paula
Paula
3 years ago
Reply to  Covidiot

What an extraordinary comment. What media presence does Djokovic have? He is being routinely demonised by the mass media and has received no meaningful support from the profession or fellow players. If he has been approached with offers to ‘tell his side of the story’ he would probably be right to be cautious about that. He has made a principled stand – if all he cared about was winning titles he would simply have taken the vax. I would love to hear more from him, I’m sure we will, but as long as the ‘millions who feel the same’ stay quiet and carp from the sidelines, nothing will change. The cavalry ain’t coming to save us. Everyone needs to play their part, however small, to speak out while we still can.

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John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  Paula

He should obviously be interviewed by Joe Rogan.

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CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
3 years ago
Reply to  Paula

If he all he cares about is winning future titles,surely it is in his best interests not to take the clot shots.

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lorrinet
lorrinet
3 years ago
Reply to  CovidiotAntiMasker

Perhaps he doesn’t want to take the shot because he doesn’t want to risk collapsing during the game, as so many athletes have.

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  Paula

“If all he cared about was winning titles he would simply have taken the vax.”
I imagine Djokovic has declined the vax Precisely because he values his health and future, without which there’s no winning of titles, anywhere. I wonder where England will stand this summer when Wimbledon comes around.

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Liberty4UK
Liberty4UK
3 years ago
Reply to  Susan

And I wonder how many of the vaxxed top notch tennis players will be left
standing. All the strain and stress of a five set match is potentially lethal if the heart is at all compromised.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Liberty4UK

Perhaps that is exactly what this demonic Australian Government is waiting to see so they can blame ‘anti-vaxxers’?

We wait with interest for A. Neil’s next rabble-rousing rant in the “Daily Mail”!

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jrobs
jrobs
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Indeed! All distraction from the high level bio weapons they have been working on for decades.

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jrobs
jrobs
3 years ago
Reply to  Susan

It’s not a vaccination so all the anti-vax hysteria is deliberate distraction. https://rumble.com/vsocno-la-quinta-columna-issues-report-on-microtechnology-found-in-pfizer-vials.html

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SomersetHoops
SomersetHoops
3 years ago
Reply to  Susan

At the moment it looks like Wimbledon is the only grand slam he can play in. I hope he plays and wins it to show all the winners of other falsely called Grand slams are also rans.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Paula

If he hasn’t taken the vaxx – as I am fairly sure he has not – then that of itself is a principled act.

Given his position and status, he would likely have been offered an injected with the placebo in it [come on, we all know it is going on], but knowing that that isn’t an option to the hordes of people all over the world being jabbed with God only know what, the fact that he has declined that, even though it is interfering with his professional career, then that is a principled act.

I would imagine he will speak more openly when he has got safely home and had some time to rest and recuperate.

I, for one, will listen with interest to what he has to say.

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Draper233
Draper233
3 years ago
Reply to  Covidiot

Oh come on, give the guy a break.

They say actions speak louder than words and Novak has taken a principled pro-choice stance and has seemingly got on with “normality” as much as possible, demonstrating that ridiculous rules created by ridiculous politicians are not worthy of following.

He already is a figurehead for our side of the argument, but he didn’t ask to be and I suspect doesn’t want to be. We should respect that.

Too right he should be focused on winning titles. He’s an elite sportsman with a limited career span, and has a great chance to become the player with the most grand slam victories. This will cement his claims as arguably the best player of all time.

That might not mean much to you, but the only way you get to that level is by absolute single-mindedness, along with immense hard work, determination and dedication. There are many great tennis players, but very few of them win even a single grand slam, let alone 20.

You don’t throw away all that ambition just because of a disgraceful decision by a deranged, tinpot dictatorship.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  Covidiot

He is just a tennis player, not a god.

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divoc origi 19
divoc origi 19
3 years ago
Reply to  Covidiot

I would have more respect for him if he hadn’t got caught trying to game their system. Just tell Australia to fuck off, and then go win the next slam. If you are going to use exemptions then make sure you do it properly (and don’t get caught flouting your quarantine period with school kids). It just adds to the belief in the eyes of the masses that people like us are selfish, when for the vast majority, nothing could be further from the truth.

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jrobs
jrobs
3 years ago
Reply to  divoc origi 19

You shouldn’t need an ‘exemption’ from an unlawful trial experiment of the injection of a bio weapon. It has nothing to do with health or a virus so all the anti-vac hysteria is deliberate distraction and obfuscation. https://rumble.com/vsocno-la-quinta-columna-issues-report-on-microtechnology-found-in-pfizer-vials.html

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SteveMol
SteveMol
3 years ago
Reply to  Covidiot

Djokovic wasn’t well liked before this debacle and had he been vociferous regarding his own thoughts about the vaccines, would have played into the hands of those wanting to cast him off as just another privileged anti-vaxxer. As it is, many people have now changed their view of him and are ridiculing the Australian Government, which can only be a good thing. To paraphrase Socrates, the wisest man knows the right time to say nothing.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Covidiot

HE’S A TENNIS PLAYER FFS – HE’S SUPPOSED TO BE “SELFISH”!!

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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago
Reply to  Covidiot

So someone standing up and enabling the Aussie (& other) govt to make utter fools of themselves and their ridiculous pandemic restrictions doesn’t help anyone else? We need the Novaks of this world to bring this whole sordid episode out into the open, such that people will start thinking for themselves and not kneel down on the doormat of govt dictatorship. Who was it who said (something like) “I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees”?

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

But my faith in the humanity of the Australian authorities has been fully vindicated, as they can always be trusted to do the wrong thing. As for the public, it would seem that nearly three quarters of them are classic cases of Stockholm Syndrome and while they are so easily fooled there will be no way back to any semblance of normality for Australia.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

It will remain forever in the group of pariah nations currently headed by itself and Austria.

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debra
debra
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

lets not forget the staggeringly high number of people in this poll (1,607 people polled) 😏We know that It’s easy to select a group of people who are likely to agree with you & we also don’t know how the question was framed.
I suggest more AU citizens feel like we do than not.

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SteveMol
SteveMol
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

I’m not sure the figures are as high as we’re being led to believe for those with apparent ‘Stockholm Syndrome’. I know many people who’ve had 1, 2 or 3 jabs but are now saying “no more”. You’re hard-pushed to find anyone prepared to try and justify the need for a 1st jab when the current narrative is that you need a 3rd.

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bOrgkilLaH1of7
bOrgkilLaH1of7
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Perversely Rayc…
Djokovic’s Australian Govt mistreatment still aids the Old Normal freedom fighters camp.
His vexatious handling just goes to prove and reinforces bluntly that none of this Kabuki Covidian cult theater is about public health, SARS Cov2 data or scientific facts. It’s pure and simply bio-techno-fascism, though what horrifies is the amount of Ozzie social media that damns him. TG for Neil’s weekly sanity pep talk…
https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1482653482305961985?s=20

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Inquest date set for Reigate woman given two different causes of death
https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/inquest-date-set-reigate-woman-22746000
The first pathologist is having his fitness to practise reviewed. Blood tests found the controlled drugs fentanyl, a painkiller in the morphine family, and midazolam which can be used in palliative care. By Julie Armstrong 

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Tuesday 18th January 2pm to 3pm
Yellow Boards By the Road 
Junction Ringmead & Hanworth Road
(9 minutes walk from South Hill Park)
Bracknell RG12 7YW

Stand in the Park Sundays 10am  make friends, ignore the madness & keep sane 
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Henley Mills Meadows (at the bandstand) Henley-on-Thames RG9 1DS

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Worse still: there hasn’t even been a pandemic.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

No .. not humanity…just disgusting, bloated and obscenely wealthy, unchecked Oligarchs and insatiably greedy Banks and Corporates and their fellow-travelling, cringing political and media jackals who have together made all this happen

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Andy R
Andy R
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

nicely put!

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Not quite – some who inhabit “humanity”, yes, but politicians, modellers, Nudge Unit and other Civil Servants….emphatically not.

You only have to read the testimony of grieving families “laughed at ” by Partygoers, medics who have exercised their human right to dictate what goes into their bodies, amongst many others – humanity is very strong, just that large parts of the “cohort” have binned their’s.

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago

History is littered with examples of the atrocities that ensue when the medical profession abandon their traditional principles and judgement in favour of unquestioning subservience to governmental diktats – medical involvement in torture, forced sterilisation and human experimentation being examples.

The genetic engineering based therapies now being deployed by the medical profession as ‘covid vaccines’ have not undergone the full review process required for full regulatory approval. In fact, all the Covid 19 injections are approved for emergency use only and are still, supposedly, in Stage 3 trials. However, it was reported in the BMJ (20/8/21) that these Stage 3 trials will never in fact be concluded because “There is no control group after Pfizer offered the product to placebo participants before the trials were completed”.

It was also reported by NPR (19/2/21) that Moderna had allowed part of its control group to be destroyed when 650 volunteers who took the experimental Moderna injections at a company called Johnson County Clinical Trials were unblinded, with the placebo group being offered, and given, the injections.

Moderna later announced that “as of April 13, all placebo participants have been offered the Moderna covid-19 vaccine and 98% of those have received the vaccine.” (BMJ 18/5/21) In other words, the whole trial is unblinded and the placebo group no longer exists.

Clinical trials that include a placebo group are the surest and most definitive way to gather information about vaccine safety and effectiveness, but that vital means of securing public safety data was deliberately terminated by the manufacturers. NPR reported that Dr. Carlos Fierro, who ran the Johnson County study, said that even without a placebo group, “I think over time we’ll get that data”.

What Fierro is saying is that in the absence of any mid to long term adverse event data, and with no control groups, the required safety data can only be acquired from long term public usage. So in reality, billions of people around the world are now effectively taking part in a, wholly dangerous, mass medical experiment without their knowledge and with no end date.

In essence, because the manufacturers have been granted zero liability for any harm caused, they have no need to conduct expensive clinical trials. They can just launch it onto the public and note the millions of deaths, disabilities and injuries caused by each different batch they are experimenting with.

Using billions of unsuspecting people as lab rats isn’t the only aspect of this injection program that is experimental. Other untried ‘firsts’ include: 

1. First to use PEG (polyethylene glycol) in an injection 
2. First injection of genetically modified polynucleotides in the general population
3. First to use mRNA technology against an infectious agent
4. First time Moderna has brought any product to market
5. First to be implemented publicly with nothing more than manufacturers own corrupted preliminary efficacy data.
6. First vaccine to make no clear claims about reducing infections, transmissibility, or deaths
7. First coronavirus vaccine ever attempted in humans
8. First to have a 100 times increase in adverse reaction reports.
9. First injected gene-based therapy.
10. First to enter into public usage with no clinical trials assessing the safety and efficacy of receiving random mixed combinations of injections from different manufacturers using radically different experimental technologies.

In spite of constant denials from wicked politicians, captured media and compromised medical professionals, it cannot reasonably be contested that these injections, and the injection program as a whole, are entirely experimental. This is evidence by analysis of the facts, and confirmed time and again by experts the world over. For example, Cody Meissner, a professor of paediatric infectious disease vaccines at Tufts University and member of the US FDA’s advisory committee told the BMJ “Remember that currently these vaccines are still considered experimental”. (BMJ 18/5/21)

The guiding principles of the Nuremberg Code serve as a landmark document on the medical ethics of experimental medical treatments. Article 1 states: “The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential.”Article 5 states: “No experiment should be conducted in which there is a priori reason to believe that death or disabling injury will result; except, perhaps, in those experiments in which the experimental physicians also serve as subjects”.

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loopDloop
loopDloop
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Excellent post.

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Bungle
Bungle
3 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

Here here!

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MichaelM
MichaelM
3 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

Hear hear!

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

First class piece of work which Dr Will should secure by adding to the DS library.

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Amtrup
Amtrup
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Hear hear 🙂

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Indeed. Hats off!

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jingleballix
jingleballix
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Yes, note too that s.45E Public Health Act 1984 – which the government has based its C-19 policy on – states;

Medical treatment
(1)
Regulations under section 45B or 45C may not include provision requiring a person to undergo medical treatment.

(2)
“ Medical treatment ” includes vaccination and other prophylactic treatment. ]

Which is why I suspect that no NHS employees will be dismissed – although there are worrying signs – Johnson has said twice that, “We need to have a national conversation on mandatory jabbing” – that government is planning to repeal the law and abandon their commitment to human rights charter such as the Nuremburg Code, and UNESCO Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights.

If I am right – then we are well and truly doomed.

Make no mistake, with Labour’s support, they can do this.

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CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

Yes this is what most concerns me , the problem is human rights are just words on pieces of paper and can be denied by any law (legislation). Whereas inalienable rights are can never be extinguished and are immutable. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10406999/Sixteen-17-year-olds-eligible-booster-doses-Monday.html . Yet more disturbing government propaganda,

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

The Labour party that warned a Conservative government would water down human rights outside the EU.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

and what the bloody hell have they done by supporting policies like lockdowns – expanded the scope of human rights in the UK so that people can live their lives as they wish? Where have you been since late 2019?

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flyingjohn
flyingjohn
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

I believe Johnson’s selfishness and desire to cling on to power will stop him doing this. He’s been scared shitless by the anger from the public and his own backbenchers over ‘PartyGate’, if he does something so stupid as repeal human rights/Nuremberg Code, it will finish him and he knows it.

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watersider
watersider
3 years ago
Reply to  flyingjohn

Mrs von der Loyan (?) the unelected “President” of Europe is on record as saying she wishes to revoke the Nuremberg Code.
Btw her husband is a director of a German biological (warfare?) Establishment.

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Infidel
Infidel
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

This is an exceptional piece of writing in desperate need of mass exposure.

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Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Pfizer drugged up both sides of the Phase II dose level determination trials. They are desperately trying to do so with the current Phase III side effect type and incidence trial. They are desperate to mask the adverse reactions of their mRNA drug delivery system. Why? Because it is their key to ‘personalised medicine’ which will be a llicence to print money. It will eliminate all clinical trials as the drugs are personalised. Phase III drug trial costs are one of the biggests costs in drug development and most candidate drugs fail in trials.

If everyone takes the drug, they will be able to say the mRNA system is safe, and no one will be able to counter them. With personalised drugs, they also have no fear of class actions against them.

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JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Indeed an excellent post.

Another first:

11 First vaxx to patently fail, something evident within the first 6 months of its introduction (Israel), yet it was believed necessary to continue with a product that had blatantly failed in all aspects – did not stop infection, transmission, serious illness, hospitalisation or death for more than a few months, if it even did that. For some reason it was believed that repeated doses of a failed product would as if by miracle turn it into something that worked.

The need for mankind to be able to ‘believe’, even against their better knowledge and clear, indisputable facts. Unfortunately not a first.

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mishmash
mishmash
3 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

12. First pandemic response vaccine to be produced without a clinical sample of pandemic causing virus.

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Thank you for this!

At what point will we attach the adjective “wicked” to the ‘captured’ media and ‘compromised’ medical professionals?

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Sue James
Sue James
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

This is absolutely my concern too. I’m a participant in the Johnson and Johnson trial. Having been given an injection in December 2020 which might or might not have been a placebo, the study managers were quite happy to allow me at age 63 to be at large in the world with a 50% chance that I had not been vaccinated, all through the “waves of infection” in early 2021. Yet all of a sudden, in June 2021, when vaccine passports were starting to be threatened, they became concerned for my safety and unblinded the trial, vaccinating all the control group (of which it turned out I had been one). When omicron arrived in December 2021 the study offered to provide me with a vaccine booster. I declined, one of the reasons being that at least I would once again be a member of some kind of control group. My faith in medicine, “science” (I don’t even know what science means any more!) and just plain honesty of practitioners of medicine and science has been completely and utterly destroyed.

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  Sue James

I’m sorry to hear of your new found disillusionment with the medical profession but I’m afraid its always been the case that many professionals are simply hired guns who say what their paymasters want them to say. Their views are then promoted as ‘expert opinion’. Once the paymasters have brought up most of the professional membership, complete with governing bodies and regulatory agencies, their views get called a ‘consensus’ – which must never be challenged. This is how the climate hoax, and now the covid scam, have materialised.

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flyingjohn
flyingjohn
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Ditto

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Sue James

Dear Sue James, if you read “The Great Cholesterol Con”, “Doctoring Data” and “The Clot Thickens” you will get an even deeper understanding how some – I stress some, as it is clearly not all, but maybe a large majority – of “the medical profession” have surrendered to the pharmaceutical sharks, put their analytical acumen in deep sleep, and descended to the level of “Dispenser” ( might have been a very bad J K Rowling villain) but still blithely pocketing the cash from all sources.

I came to your conclusion some years ago but have revised my opinion a minute fraction – only due to 2 life saving interventions by Paramedics; Dr Kendrick’s decades long studies, as he sets out do have an upside; however it will be a very long time perhaps before what he describes is reversed so you can reinstate your trust. The great difficulty the medical profession have is that they have “known this” for ever, they now “know” that more people “know” that they are utterly compromised as a profession and that makes for very tough decisions on “our” part when faced with life threatening health conditions – how do we work out if what they are “saying”….stands ups?

Catch 2022.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

I’m sure the current carefully placed UN ‘officials’ are trying squash the Nuremberg Code – it is so inconvenient for their purpose!

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flyingjohn
flyingjohn
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Which is why I believe that no politician has been injected with this experimental gene therapy. The publicity photos of them being injected were most likely a saline shot.

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SteveMol
SteveMol
3 years ago
Reply to  flyingjohn

Absolutely. And in particular, the pictures of HM The Queen receiving “the vaccine”. Of all the people in the UK they were prepared to use as human guinea pigs, she would be the last.

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liz.thornborrow@blueyonder.co.uk
liz.thornborrow@blueyonder.co.uk
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Apologies, fully support your excellent comment. Flagged by mistake, admins please note

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liz.thornborrow@blueyonder.co.uk
liz.thornborrow@blueyonder.co.uk
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Excellent post, thank you. Fortunately, (or unfortunately if you are a manufacturer of these products) I am a registered member of a control group – the SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine Control Group http://www.vaxcontrolgroup.com

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  liz.thornborrow@blueyonder.co.uk

I checked the link you supplied.

There is an image of a card which says that the person is a member of a registered control group and must not be vaccinated.

Is that an ‘exemption’ to being jabbed which nation states will recognise which would allow you to travel?

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liz.thornborrow@blueyonder.co.uk
liz.thornborrow@blueyonder.co.uk
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

I haven’t tested this for foreign travel. I’m informed that the Q code works for domestic venues. Is there a facility to ask your question on their website?

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jingleballix
jingleballix
3 years ago

The world’’s professional tennis players should boycott the Australian Open – and every other tournament there – starting NOW.

They should withdraw, leave the country immediately and never return to play there.

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Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

Well, they won’t. Most probably support the ruling.

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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Angel Eco Warrior

It’s like in all other parts of society: ‘If I’ve taken the trouble to get jabbed, why should someone else get away with not doing so?’

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jwills
jwills
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Exactly. We critical thinkers and supporters of free choice insult their intelligence

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  jwills

Oh, I don’t think it’s impossible to insult it.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

If I am in the queue for crucifixion why should that guy be in the queue for being let go?

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Draper233
Draper233
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

Unfortunately that won’t happen, but as far as i’m concerned the tournament is effectively void and is now nothing more than an exhibition.

So if, for example, Nadal were to win, he is officially on 21 titles, but I’ll always maintain that the Aussie Open 2022 should not be recognised, and that he’s actually on 20.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

They absolutely won’t.

Without a doubt, the jab is seen by them as a tax they have to endure to continue playing tennis professionally and they resent anyone who tries to dodge it.

At a deeper level, they also resent Djokovic for having the courage they’ve lacked to stand up to the extortion. His actions remind them of their weakness and lack of principles.

In my eyes, they are sad, pathetic humans and I won’t spend a minute watching them. Their sport is pretty much dead to me.

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Horse
Horse
3 years ago

Djokovic must permanently boycott the Australian Open on the grounds it’s wrong to support fascism and tyranny.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Tend to agree, but his nationality and recent events might open up a very large Hornets Nest….if ever there was a time for him to keep schtumm, surely this is it?

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T-Centralen
T-Centralen
3 years ago

They should be renaming their stadium after him yet they used him as a political pawn.
He’ll be back and even more fired up for Wimbledon and Roland Garros. No doubt he will still end his career on more slams than Nadal and Federer.

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cryptical
cryptical
3 years ago

What utter and absolute stupidity. Australia and so many of our “liberal democracies” have become Covid police states, nothing more and nothing less, nothing to do with logic, common sense, or reality. What an incredible state of affairs. Who could have believed this two years ago?

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago

The Australian Open should lose its “Grand Slam” status, perhaps retrospectively.

Plenty of crazy in Australia, but one thing I have noticed that is less crazy than most places: Except in Victoria (of course) Australian children have never been required to wear masks, in school or out. Swings and roundabouts.

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jwills
jwills
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

I think secondary have in qld. I could be wrong

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago

We may agree that it is wrong to deny entry to somebody because they have not been vaccinated. However to claim this decision is unworthy of a “liberal democracy” is patently false. The definition of a liberal democracy is one where a democratically elected government acts according to the rule of law. That’s exactly what happened in this case.
The decision to deport him was made by a bonafide judge and an elected government. It is also overwhelmingly supported by the citizens. I agree that Australia is suffering from an illiberal “mass psychosis” but this decision is anything but a “failure of liberal democracy”.

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mwhite
mwhite
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

“ The definition of a liberal democracy is one where a democratically elected government acts according to the rule of law.”

What if they pass a law that would allow an atrocity?


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mishmash
mishmash
3 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

It is the responsibility of good citizens to break bad laws.

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

Then they would be voted out of office. That is why both Australia and GB have elections so the people can decide if they approve of the policies. I’m sure it won’t have escaped your attention that both Morrison and Johnson are unlikely to remain PM for long. Surely that’s the sign of a healthy liberal democracy?

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Andy R
Andy R
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

The UK is quite clearly a one party state. Democracy in the UK is a sham. We have the pretence of control over our political masters while the likes of Epstein and his tyrannical paymasters have the real control over them.
If you think this decision is the decision of a liberal democracy you are woefully mistaken! This is the decision of a state controlled by oligarchs that control all the means by which any political party can possibly be elected.

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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

The judge merely concluded that there were insufficient grounds for overturning the relevant minister’s decision to revoke Djok’s visa. It’s rather easier to deny non-citizens’ rights – especially when you’ve been imprisoning and mistreating your own for almost two years.

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refusenick
refusenick
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

What is meant, I think, is that ‘liberal democracy’ has failed because it has shown itself capable of trampling on individual rights despite ‘following the law.’
i was a fan of the Joker before and am a much bigger fan now, given his principled stand. However, in a way I’m glad they made this decision as it would otherwise have been ‘one rule for the plebs and another for the elites.’ I have nothing but contempt for the authorities, however, and their repulsive authoritarianism.
Their actions also demonstrate – once again – the bizarre mentality that insists on jabs for others because the already jabbed aren’t protected by their own.

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Bungle
Bungle
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

Hello Clive. Following the Nuremburg trials, we got the code of the same name to ensure that Nazis and fascists could no longer make temporary laws to suit their vile agendas. This applies to all liberal democracies, though totalitarian states ignore it.

The Helsinki Protocol, for medical ethics, followed and I just leave you with this: “Ethical considerations must always take precedence over laws and regulations (Art 9).” To argue against this is an act just like those supporting Hitler so, please don’t do it.

You probably think you are making a valid point under freedom of speech; you are not, you are acting in support of a totalitarian government. As for your point about the majority supporting it, if they supported racism or slavery, would you say that made it democratic???

The key thing about democracy is that it supports the individual voice, however lonely that voice may be. To argue against this is against natural, inalienable law!

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

Excellent.

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Bungle
Bungle
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Cheers HP.

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

Godwin’s Law rules again!

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

Godwin’s Law rules again. The Helsinki agreement depends on agreeing on what is ethical. I assume therefore you are against the deportation of illegal immigrants from the shores of England? It’s also worth noting that it looks like both PMs of Australia and GB are soon to be out of a job. That seems like a fully functioning liberal democracy to me.

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Draper233
Draper233
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

So in a “fully functioning liberal democracy” it is the norm to have –

  • Mass psychological operations against the people
  • Widespread and persistent state propaganda
  • Unprecedented censorship and intolerance for alternative views
  • Shameful and deliberate misinformation represented as truth
  • The withdrawal of basic freedoms and civil liberties on a whim
  • The demonisation of those who do not wish to take part in a state-sanctioned medical experiment

And so on.

I’d say the above is most often found in fully functioning dictatorships.

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  Draper233

Which is why both Australia and GB have elections so the people can decide if they approve of the policies. I’m sure it won’t have escaped your attention that both Morrison and Johnson are unlikely to remain PM for long. Surely that’s the sign of a healthy liberal democracy?

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Draper233
Draper233
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

It might be to you, but a couple of token figureheads being kicked out and replaced by another couple of token figureheads is not my idea of a healthy liberal democracy.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

I think you won that one “to nil”….

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

Nope, you can certainly argue that it’s democratic, but not remotely “liberal”, in the sense that word is used in the phrase liberal democracy. It is more appropriately classed as tyranny of the majority.

The essence of a liberal democracy is that people are not persecuted for political reasons, such as over a risk that they might foster political dissent.

To view this as acceptable in a liberal democracy you would have to give credence to the laughable claims of the panickers that the “vaccination” rules are somehow relevant to the spread of a serious disease, thereby giving it a patina of “public protection” justification. But these claims are, as stated, literally laughable.

(As an addendum, clearly he is not a citizen so the state owes no duty to him beyond basic humanity, but nevertheless his treatment reflects and is based on the general political persecution of dissent over the “vaccinations” in Australia, which is what really identifies the country as illiberal.)

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I agree that the policies of the current government are illiberal. Which is why both Australia and GB have elections so the people can decide if they approve of the policies. I’m sure it won’t have escaped your attention that both Morrison and Johnson are unlikely to remain PM for long. Surely that’s the sign of a healthy liberal democracy?

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

As far as I can see, neither of the two are facing removal because their covid panic policies were too illiberal. Both are facing replacement most likely with less liberal successors, and certainly the opposition parties to both are less liberal.

As far as “liberal democracy” is concerned, this could be said to reaffirm the “democracy” aspect but it says nothing about the “liberal” aspect. I think it’s very reasonable to say that Australia can no longer be classed as such. Rather atm it is an illiberal democracy – a tyranny of the majority, in which the dissident minority faces serious oppression. Do you disagree?

Though it’s also important to bear in mind that the majority opinion that rules is one created by massive, dishonest fear propaganda and a spurious emergency, which morally at least brings the democracy aspect into question. Again, do you disagree?

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

Hitler was elected and then went on to make laws similar to those now being enforced in the penal colony

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Godwin’s Law rules again.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

Could you please take your genocide supporting shite elsewhere please

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SJDR
SJDR
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

You might consider deleting this post, if you can (delete it).

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SJDR
SJDR
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Awaiting approval, apparently.

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

To compare the deportation of one man to the atrocities in Northern China or Rwanda is a tad extreme don’t you think? By the way, it’s quite possible to be against vaccine mandates without wearing a tin foil hat!

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

Alex Hawke released a statement following the court decision:

Australia’s strong border protection policies have kept us safe during the pandemic, resulting in one of the lowest death rates, strongest economic recoveries, and highest vaccination rates in the world. Strong border protection policies are also fundamental to safeguarding Australia’s social cohesion which continues to strengthen despite the pandemic.

It is debatable if any of the above is factually correct. There were no really infectious cases from the start in Australia but somehow they managed to lockdown a continent for 100 or so. The death rates, as everywhere have ballooned as a result of injections. Closing borders does nothing to stop spread.

Finally, Hawke states that border controls are key to”safeguarding Australia’s social cohesion.” That’s a fine insult to the people of Australia and an admission that the government case is garbage.

So one man entering Australia to play in a tennis tournament is the equivalent of Garibaldi marching on Rome?

This court has stretched the legal interpretation to provide the government with the decision they require – sounds familiar – and in the process seriously undermined the essence of good law – reasonableness.

Djokovic was not demanding entry to Australia as he had already been granted an exemption.

Djokovic is being deported not for what he has said or done but for what he has not done. He has refused to surrender bodily autonomy for a seriously dangerous injection.

Fortunately those campaigning against the injections now have a worthy internationl figurehead.

Australia is utterly shamed by what it has done. It certainly has reverted to being a penal colony run by gangsters.

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I assume that you don’t support the deportation of illegal immigrants from England’s shores either?

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

Nice bit of whataboutery, Clive. The comparison is a false equivalence.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

I do support the deportation of illegal immigrants from the UK. Are you trying to infer that Djokovic was hoping to set himself up in Australia and make it his home?

In what way does Djokovic compare to an illegal immigrant?

Mixing and matching to suit a desired outcome is exactly what this Australian court has done. By doing the same you have shredded your argument.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

What argument? He appears to be suffering from echolalia – I picture him wandering around muttering ‘Godwin’s Law, Godwin’s Law’ to himself, as if that somehow justifies the arbitrary imposition of government authority in Australia!

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

As hominem attacks are the last refuge of a loosing argument.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

‘Losing’, not ‘loosing’ ;).

Citing ‘Godwin’s Law’, as if that is anyway meaningful, is no way to win an argument.
You appear to be siding with the Australian government – is that really the side you are on?

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

At no time have I agreed or disagreed with the decision to deport Djokovic. Their government has decided that his presence is undesirable. Just as many think the presence of illegal immigrants in England is undesirable. My point is that the decision, nor even the misguided and illiberal lockdown and vaccine mandates of the current government, mean that Australia is not a liberal democracy. Both Australia and GB have elections so the people can decide if they approve of the policies. I’m sure it won’t have escaped your attention that both Morrison and Johnson are unlikely to remain PM for long. Surely that’s the sign of a healthy liberal democracy?

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A Heretic
A Heretic
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

I see, so 1930s Germany was a liberal democracy. After all, they were just delivering what the people wanted.

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

Godwin’s Law proven again!

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artfelix
artfelix
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

I’m not sure it applies when it’s actually apposite to the point. Nazi Germany, in this case, being the obvious example of why what you originally said was bollocks.

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

Except that Nazi Germany wasn’t a liberal democracy.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

And neither is Australia!

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Strange statement given that Australia has a federal election in 3 months time and all the polls suggest the current Government will loose control. That sounds like a fully functioning liberal democracy to me.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

It’s not liberal, though, is it? And it’s not much of a democracy when the main parties are singing from the same hymn sheet and have the MSM lying and manipulating for them.

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Old Bill
Old Bill
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

When the law itself is an atrocity then upholding it is in no way an example of liberal democracy.

There used to be laws allowing you to drown witches on ducking stools, there used to be laws allowing you to burn Catholics for holding mass, there used to be laws that allowed you to chemically castrate homosexuals, do you think that when a government acted according to those rules it made them an example of liberal democracy?

I don’t.

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Bungle
Bungle
3 years ago
Reply to  Old Bill

Superb examples OB, thanks.

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  Old Bill

I agree that we couldn’t hold up the ruling classes in medieval times as shining examples of democracy mainly because they weren’t elected. I also agree that chemical castrations aren’t appropriate which is presumably why a liberal democracy outlawed them.

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

Why are you not accounting for the fact that just about everything the Australian public believes regarding Convid is based on lies, deceit, fraud, misinformation, brainwashing, use of hypnotic language, terrorism, extreme state violence and outright fascism.

It has been covered many times on here, but it cannot be repeated enough. In 2020 there was no common influenza. There was Covid19 in 2020. Covid19 and influenza have the same mortality rate and to many extents, the same symptoms. Therefore, the background risk of being alive or dying from a respiratory illness did not change in 2020. Anyone who believes in the validity of this scam is a victim – they are victms of state terrorism.

Anna De Buisseret for example has outlined how due to the obscene levels of coercion and deceit and brainwashing by the British state it is impossible for anyone in the UK to give informed consent to these clinical trials. In fact, terrorising a population in this way and concocting fake health emergencies to force people to take treatments and obey is ILLEGAL EVEN IN WARTIME.

Shameful comment. Disgraceful reflection of DS.

Lawyer Anna De Buisseret Speaks On Nuremberg 2 & Common Law
https://www.bitchute.com/video/IKu0XZP9Tpl6/

Worlds top epidemiologist confirms Convid is a con:

BREAKING NEWS ! Prof Dr John Ioannidis Stanford University On Real Data On Coronavirus Pandemic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btvDL6kIDsA

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Bungle
Bungle
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

We all need to listen to Anna and act accordingly. Ioannidis data accepts PCR and is therefore well too high. Divide by 10 and you may be close..

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

Careful reading of TDS would alert its readers to the fact that Covid 19 in 2020 and 2021 did nothing have the same fatality rate as flu. The good news is that, if you read TDS, in 2022 the IFR of Omicron appears to be about the same as flu. It’s also worth noting that as a functioning liberal democracy the leaders who concocted such illiberal policies as lockdowns look likely to be out of a job in the not too distant future.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

Isn’t it funny how a question in parliament last September resulted in the confirmation that the IFR for Covid-19 was 0.096. The same as flu.
Omicron is far less deadly.
You seem to have swallowed the government data manipulation, as promoted by the BBC!

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

To date there have been 132000 deaths in England and 12.8 million cases identified. I’ll let you do the math but you’ll find your decimal point is in the wrong place. The 0.096% figure quoted by Steven Baker, who I am a fan of, related to a distinct cohort in time, not to the total IFR rate across the pandemic.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

You’ve been brainwashed – you truly believe that 132,000 deaths were ”from Covid, not ‘with’? Do you wear a mask, I wonder?

Omicron is less dangerous than the original variant by some distance.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

“To date there have been 132000 deaths….”

Nothing more to say as you have “said it all”.

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Loadmaster
Loadmaster
3 years ago
Reply to  186NO

https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/01/17/ons-confirm-just-17000-have-died-of-covid-19/

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

Hitler was democratically elected.

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

Godwin’s Law rules again.

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

That’s a pathetic response. Please arituculate what it is you think Godwin’s Law does. How does citing the ‘law’ constitute an adequate response or rebuttal to the point?

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

I subscribe to the position that reductio ad Hitlerum is a valid criticism of any post. In a liberal democracy you are free to disagree.

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

What on earth are you talking about? What do you think ‘reductio ad Hitlerum’ means, exactly? It’s meaningless. Do you actually believe you are expressing a proper fallacy?

Again, please arituculate what it is you think Godwin’s Law does. How does citing the ‘law’ constitute an adequate response or rebuttal to the (any) point?

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

I’ll leave you to study the principle of Godwin’s Law and the philosophical concept of reductio ad absurdum. I think it is rather apt in this case. In the liberal democracy that we enjoy you are of course free to disagree.

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

‘I’ll leave you to study the principle of Godwin’s Law…’

Why are you being coy? You’re the one invoking the ‘law’ yet you appear completely unwilling to articulate why you think merely citing the ‘law’ is meaningful. Suggesting others ‘study’ the ‘princple’ (as if they aren’t already familiar with it) is merely a deflection when the burden of responsibility falls on you to demonstrate why simply citing Godwin’s Law constitutes an adequate response.

‘…and the philosophical concept of reductio ad absurdum…’ 

Reductio ad absurdum, from which ‘reductio ad Hitlerum’ borrows its name, is the name of a proper logical fallacy. ‘Reductio ad Hitlerum’ is a pseudo fallacy. It’s stupid. One could easily substitute Hitler/Nazism for Stalin/Communism, or Mao/Communism and pretend a fallacy has been committed whenever a comparison to Stalin or Mao has been given. It’s meaningless. 

Regardless, this pseudo fallacy has nothing to do with Godwin’s Law, which simply states that the longer an internet discussion continues, the more likely it is that a comparison with Hitler/Nazism will be drawn. I hate to break it to all you Godwin’s Law fans out there, but this is not an overly remarkable observation. The same ‘law’ can apply to Stalin, Mao, &c. 

To be fair to Godwin, I don’t believe he was claiming some great insight, and he actually acknowledges its limitations:

‘It’s deliberately pseudo-scientific — meant to evoke the Second Law of Thermodynamics and the inevitable decay of physical systems over time. My goal was to hint that those who escalate a debate into Adolf Hitler or Nazi comparisons may be thinking lazily, not adding clarity or wisdom, and contributing to the decay of an argument over time. 

…

‘Since it was released into the wilds of the internet in 1991, Godwin’s Law (which I nowadays abbreviate to “GL”) has been frequently reduced to a blurrier notion: that whenever someone compares anything current to Nazis or Hitler it means the discussion is over, or that that person lost the argument. It’s also sometimes used (reflexively, lazily) to suggest that anyone who invokes a comparison to Nazis or Hitler has somehow “broken” the Law, and thus demonstrated their failure to grasp what made the Holocaust uniquely horrific.

…

‘Some critics on the left have blamed me for (supposedly) having shut down valid comparisons to the Holocaust or previous atrocities. Some on the right have insisted that I’m “PC” for having tweeted (a bit profanely) that it’s just fine to compare the white nationalists who plagued Charlottesville, Va., last year to Nazis. (I think they were mostly aspirational Nazi cos players.)

‘I don’t take either strain of criticism too seriously. But I do want to stress that the question of evil, understood historically, is bigger than party politics. GL is about remembering history well enough to draw parallels — sometimes with Hitler or with Nazis, sure — that are deeply considered. That matter. Sometimes those comparisons are going to be appropriate, and on those occasions GL should function less as a conversation ender and more as a conversation starter.

‘So let me start another conversation here. Take the argument that our treatment of those seeking asylum at our border, including children, is not as monstrous as institutionalized genocide. That may be true, but it’s not what you’d call a compelling defense. Similarly, saying (disingenuously) that the administration is just doing what immigration law demands sounds suspiciously like “we were just following orders.” That argument isn’t a good look on anyone.’

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-godwin-godwins-law-20180624-story.html

So Godwin himself states that Godwin’s Law was never meant as a universal, and he is clearly not averse to drawing his own parallels with Hitler/Nazism.

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

It is a failure of liberal democracy because a liberal democracy used to be defined as more than an iron-fisted rule of a confused majority.

Some principles, usually enshrined in a democratic country’s constitution, are not subject to being overruled by simple majority, and certainly not by a decree of a single minister.

If a country allows such arbitrary trampling of liberty in its boundaries, it may call itself a “democracy” all right, but it’s surely not a “liberal” one any more. In fact, it has been known by any democrat worth their salt that the greatest danger to democracy is itself undoing its own existence – by majority vote no less. So let’s call Australia what it is now, a collapsing, non-liberal democracy, on the road to something much worse.

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JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

You’re on a roll today. Well said.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

His / her exact opposite will take over the laptop later this evening.

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

It looks like Scott Morrison, and hopefully Boris, are not much longer for the post of PM. That seems like a liberal democracy functioning rather well.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

After having read the entire thread, I’m left with little more than a tedious semantic discussion around the definition of a “liberal democracy”.

The deportation of Djokovic is an abuse of power by a government, on the pretext of shutting down dissent against an experimental vaccination programme that by any reasonable measure is itself an abuse of power and a violation of human rights. All of that to try to make good on the previous abuse of power which has been the brutal lockdown of Australia.

If a liberal democracy is one in which one has to wait more than 2 years to have any chance to push back on a litany of power abuses of unprecedented scale, then you can take your liberal democracy and shove it up where the sun don’t shine.

In the meantime, perhaps we have to find a new term for what most of us here seem to understand as the free society we all more or less enjoyed before 2020.

And Clive, if you think elections in the UK and Australia are going to fix the abuse of power and the damage done, I’ll have a bit what of whatever it is you’re smoking.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Btw, at what point is it no longer Godwin’s law?

The state promoted hatred and marginalisation of a group in society? Concentration camps? Extermination?

No? Does it have to be a nasty looking man with a funny moustache and a swastikad arm raised high shouting in German, otherwise, it’s Godwin’s law?

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artfelix
artfelix
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

“Unworthy of” is not the same as “incompatible with the legal framework of”. One is a value judgment, and a correct one, the other is a statement of fact.

A liberal democracy could, if the people supported it and it was carried out in accordance with the legal framework of the country, implement the death sentence for jay walking. That would be unworthy of them, I imagine you’d agree?

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clivepinder
Editor
clivepinder
3 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

The history of liberal democracies is full of bad judgements. The measure of a functioning liberal democracy is that they are rectified.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

Digging your heels in and constantly parroting the line “liberal democracy” is frankly lazy. We are not living in a liberal democracy and even a blind man wearing a mask would agree.

Given that the loss of Bozo would mean his replacement by somebody of a more fascistic bent I hardly think that such a result would allow any of us to rejoice and claim a triumph for democracy.

Given that governments of the western ilk are operating in lockstep it is naiive to not conclude that some unit bigger than national governments is controlling the various nations. The suggestion that salvation will arrive via the ballot box is frankly absurd.

All governments in the western sphere have declared war on their peoples and our misery is not about to end despite the hot air of politicians, which I suspect is nothing more than further gaslighting.

The Great Reset as Schwab and Charlie Windsor like to call it is happening, we are living through it. They are not playing.

Rescue via a corrupt electoral system? Talk about wishful thinking.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

Really?

Where exactly is the rectification of the murderous invasion of Iraq, carried out knowingly under deceitful pretences by Blair? Oh right, yes, his Knighthood. That’ showed him.

Or his appointment as UN special envoy to the Middle East. Gosh, that really rectified that.

And his lavish Blair institute and constant air time pushing vax passports. I’m really thankful to be living in a ‘liberal democracy” where the big mistakes get properly rectified.

What a load of bollocks.

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

Is this what you mean by “liberal democracy”. You are either baiting people or seriously deluded.

The puppet show
https://www.bitchute.com/video/NBswKoRWE7Kf/

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

The law here appears to be: “you are not required to be vaccinated, unless you are not vaccinated, in which case you are required to be vaccinated.”

I guess if the majority of the herrenvolk support an action though then it’s beyond criticism.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  clivepinder

So a liberal democracy is able to enact laws with no regard to the effect on its citizens – even where an effect is demonstrably unfair, lacking “equity” or in conflict with other enacted laws (viz allowing (sports) people to enter unvaccinated subject to quarantine etc)?

I suggest that such a regime is in no way liberal.

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mwhite
mwhite
3 years ago

Shutting the gate after the horse has bolted come to mind.

Australia’s COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations hit new records (yahoo.com)

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

My piece makes a similar point.

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Doom Slayer
Doom Slayer
3 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

Aus, NZ etc are going to realise there is nothing like a good spread of natural immunity. Something thats needs to be constantly poked with a stick and agitated in order to keep in good condition. They can expect a tsunami of various problems in the future.

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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago

I think the Aussie authorities had painted themselves into the proverbial corner with this one. There wasn’t a good outcome to be had. They obviously decided that, should Djok win again while the jabbed under-performed or collapsed with heart problems, they’d look worse than if he wasn’t there – so it’s bye-bye Novak!

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Bungle
Bungle
3 years ago

John Pilger “two of whose maternal great-great-grandparents were Irish convicts” has often described Australia as the most racist country on the planet. I’ve only been twice and only to the south east but I did watch in blank amazement as schoolkids were taken around certain immigrant (i.e. European) settlements wearing 18th century English clothes. It is often like this with me; I know something’s wrong but can’t put my finger on it. Now it’s much clearer – those European powers now in the ascendant positions, don’t want any other dissenting voice criticising their basic narrative which supports their power positions.

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James Leary #KBF
James Leary #KBF
3 years ago

DM. 

When I read bilge like this, it gives me a taste of what medieval life must have been like for the average farmer or tradesman. Trapped in a vicious black comedy between on one side ignorant superstition backed by lethal coercion from the church, and heavily armed agents of the government (King) stealing your sons for the army and raiding what little wealth the Church allowed you to keep. And no law. 

You owned very little and you were unhappy. 

Coming to a society near you. 

‘OLIVER HOLT: When I look at Djokovic, I see a dangerous fool’

https://mol.im/a/10406615

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jingleballix
jingleballix
3 years ago
Reply to  James Leary #KBF

Why is he ‘dangerous’?

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

He has an independent and intelligent mind. Tyranny hates this.

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

Because he is challenging the approved narrative.

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jingleballix
jingleballix
3 years ago
Reply to  James Leary #KBF

Apologies – you were quoting Oliver Holt……..one of the most ‘obedient’ sports journalists in Britain – he’s a f****** disgrace.

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Draper233
Draper233
3 years ago
Reply to  James Leary #KBF

Bilge indeed.

You only have to see one sentence to understand how emotionally brainwashed Holt actually is:

“So even though my father was coming to the end of his life before the pandemic hit…”

In other words, a classic “with Covid” death, which would have happened anyway.

But instead of looking at it with a rational mindset, Holt goes on to express some absurd, unscientific opinions such as:

“thousands of grieving families in this country who have lost loved ones, some of them because of the actions of people like him [Djokovic]”

“[Djokovic] still turned up for a photo-shoot the next day [of being positive] and posed for pictures without a mask.”

“I don’t see any rational reasons for [not wanting to take the vax]. Not a single one.”

“the myth of increasing heart problems among young vaccinated athletes is a myth that persists”

“[Djokovic] should have had a bit of class. He should either have got the jab or he should have stayed away.”

Holt is quite representative of the irrational, bedwetting zealotry that has been pervasive in the legacy media over the last 2 years and I can only hope he reflects with embarrassment on this article at some point in the future.

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T-Centralen
T-Centralen
3 years ago

Can the DS stop perpetuating the “No-vaxx” meme? He is by far the highest profile individual to come out fighting on our side of this matter – ie freedom to choose without coercion. Allowing authorities to lump his views into the generic anti-vaxx camp is essentially partly why he is now on a flight home. We should at least not stoop to cheap puns that damage our own ability to nuance on the issue.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  T-Centralen

Yes words are important

He is not ‘anti vax’

He is a ‘dissident’

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Menckenitis
Menckenitis
3 years ago
Reply to  T-Centralen

Aren’t most of us on here anti-tyranny. Vaccines are one of the tools, tyranny is the underlying motive.

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T-Centralen
T-Centralen
3 years ago
Reply to  Menckenitis

Yes I would say most DS readers are anti the authoritarian response to covid-19 and in favour of individual medical liberty of choice.

The other side of the debate has consistently used terms like “far right”, “conspiracy theorists” and “anti-vaxxers” as a smear to stifle proper debate.

Djokovic Is the highest profile public figure to make a stand on our side of things. It seems strange that the DS essentially keep repeating the “No-Vaxx” moniker. Feels like we are doing their job for them.

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Dickymoo
Dickymoo
3 years ago

Where shall we go on our expensive holiday this year dear? Not Australia you say, because it’s chock to the gunwales with hubristic-covid-alarmist-political-bedwetter-tyrant-types and seems to be a very oppressive and discriminatory environment so it’s put you off ever visiting. Yay, fine by me, let’s go to Mexico again, the kids love it and the Mexicans warmly welcome anyone normal regardless of their personal medical choices, or maybe Japan, they seem to have fostered a respectful vaccine stance too.

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Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
3 years ago

Fuck Australia it’s a shit hole and they can’t cook chips

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  Jaguarpig

Because they carry them round on their shoulders for too long

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Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

😂

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
3 years ago

Australia is now an apartheid state. It needs to be boycotted and condemned.

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jingleballix
jingleballix
3 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

Yes……..we can help…..stop buying their wine, beer and foodstuffs.

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Old Bill
Old Bill
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

Yeah, and we should whip their cricket team too!

Oops too late.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

It is. Apartheid not based on race but on medical tyranny.

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John001
John001
3 years ago

Australia still seems to be full of convicts.

I don’t know about others but I’d support the Daily Sceptic management if they were to send a warm message of goodwill to Djokovic and say that many of its readers are in full agreement with his stand against medical fascism. I certainly am.

Anyone know if Serbia will become a more hospitable country to tourists?

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Stephanos
Stephanos
3 years ago

I said this about Macron a few weeks ago but it is worth repeating here.
The Immigration Minister Alex Hawke will live to regret this decision. And so will the Australian judges.

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jwills
jwills
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

I wish but lose faith sometimes

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Victory Gin
Victory Gin
3 years ago

….

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refusenick
refusenick
3 years ago

“the Serbian’s presence in the country may “foster anti-vaccination sentiment” 
So he’s being denied entry because the government thinks his views (regarding vaxx mandates etc) will diminish ‘social cohesion.’
That’s a pretty insidious phrase.

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refusenick
refusenick
3 years ago
Reply to  refusenick

… and further confirmation (if such were needed) that it’s about control and “not about what they say it’s about.”

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JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
3 years ago
Reply to  refusenick

Also proof that he is being denied entry for political reasons. Something that used to be referred to as political persecution.

Ironic, as all Western societies have for the last 7 or 8 years been subjected to huge flows of illegal aliens on the grounds that they were ‘political refugees’ who we were duty-bound to accept and protect.

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refusenick
refusenick
3 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

My memory’s a bit hazy, but wasn’t Michael Savage refused entry to the UK a few years ago because of his political views?
In some ways, the Novak story is actually part of the media/big tech cancel culture scandal, no?

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago

Brilliant clips from Russ Brown – documented details about the true nature of viruses – how they are truly classified as parasites and bacteria – plus more. Also included the Mike and Doug show that looked into Pirbright patents early in The Scamdemic.

Viruses are bacteria parasites say Pirbright Institute
https://www.bitchute.com/video/843kkIDeRrHI/

Project Veritas Shilling For Rothschild Pirbright Like David Martin
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ASHQKfhgRG7z/

QinetiQ explained on the Mike & Doug Show March 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdFY5rCTBh8

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

I cant watch this but this stuff needs to be aired so people can realise how serious this situation really is:

Heart Attack on Pitch – Jan 8 2022
https://www.bitchute.com/video/HDjsTECxdhqM/

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago

One bright side – I imagine this will stoke anti-“vaccine” sentiment in Serbia, at least.

Serbian president launches extraordinary attack on Australia over Novak Djokovic legal battle – accusing officials of ‘Orwellian performances’ and Scott Morrison of ‘mistreating him due to elections’

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Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
3 years ago

This is nothing to with covid. Other players were let in under similar circumstances. The reason he is made an example – he led support in Serbia against an attenpt by a large Australian mining company to take over some mining resources.

Edit: memory failure. Here is a report on the incident:

https://firstsportz.com/tennis-novak-djokovic-backs-the-growing-protests-in-serbia-over-the-rio-tinto-mining/

“he also raised his voice of concern amidst the growing protests in Belgrade over the mining contract given by the government to Rio Tinto company that plans to extract Lithium, which in return would be harmful to the environment and the citizens feel the government is overlooking the health for economic benefits.”

Lithium is the new gold in the Brave New EV ‘Freeze a granny’ world.

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bagpusskitty
bagpusskitty
3 years ago

Why won’t today’s update page load? Is it just me?

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PoshPanic
PoshPanic
3 years ago
Reply to  bagpusskitty

Didn’t for me either

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Amtrup
Amtrup
3 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

Nor me. Got a page telling me that was a “critical system error”.

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
3 years ago
Reply to  Amtrup

Me tooo fixed about midday gmt

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Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
3 years ago
Reply to  bagpusskitty

If it persists, it is possibly a browser version issue. Yester day a site I have been viewibng for years failed to load, just displaying an error message indicating a server problem. The site is fine on a more recent, but less useful, browser.

The original html concept was to present information without concern about fine format details. Now it seems to be appearance over content. Welcome to the corporatisation of everything.

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Victory Gin
Victory Gin
3 years ago

This is not about public health or the virus this is about power and politics – its about making an example out of Djokovic and sending a warning to anyone else who attempts to defy the despotic totalitarian regime now in control of Australia.

To be honest I don’t know why Djokovic would want to play there – Australia appears to be run by corrupt criminals. I’m never want to visit that place again – my money is going on vacations to Serbia instead.

Novak Djokovic is a hero …

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PoshPanic
PoshPanic
3 years ago

Djokovic’s gracious response and acceptance of this Minority Report future crime verdict, will win him more fans.

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Sceptic Hank
Sceptic Hank
3 years ago

This ‘once liberal and tolerant country’ has been hysterically pro-vax for many years, so this decision does not surprise me. The term ‘anti-vaxxer’ is used liberally to insult anyone voicing opinions outside the narrative. People are terrified of being branded as such for fear of attracting scorn and ridicule. Ironically, it should actually be a compliment – given that it actually means someone who respects a healthy body’s own ability to to fight infection vs reliance on a cocktail of toxic chemicals that in the case of Covid, has been completely useless and dangerous to boot.

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Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
3 years ago
Reply to  Sceptic Hank

If anyone did that to me I would show my genuine vaccination card, listing vaccines with 10 year renewal periods. 3 months is a joke for anything other than Big Pharma’s bottom line.

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago

‘I respect the court’s ruling and I will cooperate with the relevant authorities in relation to my departure from the country.’

This whole bizarre, contrived drama has been worthy of a tinpot banana republic, yet Djokovic ‘respect[s]’ the ruling upholding the decrees of political thugs. He has tried his hardest (short of taking the experimental technology) to participate in this odious apartheid, and now walks away with a whimper, respecting the ruling upholding the evil decrees of power-crazed lunatics.

Djokovic ought to have stayed as far away as possible from this backward hellhole and campaigned against the apartheid rather trying to join it. He could have used the appropriate moral, rational and scientific arguments to shine a glaring light on the absurdity of this whole thing.

The bottom line is, as best as he could, Djokovic tried to comply with medical apartheid. Thus I find it utterly astonishing that the so-called ‘sceptical community’ holds him up as a hero.

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Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

Look on the bright side. If he hadn’t turned up at all, there would be no hullaballoo. Instead, he has you something to whine about.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Arfur Mo

All eyes on the Serbian tennis player whilst Boris and pals fart in your face.

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refusenick
refusenick
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Some of us can walk and chew gum at the same time

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  Arfur Mo

What a fatuous comment. Come back when you find an argument, Arfur mug.

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Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

Sure Incontinent Ridicule

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  Arfur Mo

Come on, you silly little mug, where’s your argument against my position? Let’s see it.

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Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

Hey Incontinent,

Here you go.

https://dailysceptic.org/2022/01/16/no-vaxx-djokovic-to-be-deported-from-australia-in-disgraceful-naked-political-act-by-supposed-liberal-democracy/#comment-700311

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  Arfur Mo

That’s not an argument against my position, Arfur mug. That’s a pathetic, snivelling ‘Other players were let in under similar circumstances’ apology for compliance. Are you dense, Art? You’re not really a sceptic are you, Art? Are you the sort of sceptic of no conviction who produces his COVID/health bona fides in order to enter a venue, like Toby Young does for the football?

Try again, Arfur mug.

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  Arfur Mo

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  Arfur Mo

One way or another, right, Arfur berk?

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago

Polish-my-bonce-with-Mr-Sheen Javid says he’s going to remove the pre-purchased test requirement for arrivals to the UK at the end of January. But only for the Holy Fully-Vaccinated.
The ‘Unvaxxed’ must continue to be punished for not wanting to co-operate.

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JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

How else are they going to hide the fact that the vaxxed are infected far more frequently than the unvaxxed?

Reverting to the CDC’s ‘don’t test the vaxxed’ trick of last May, which was what started the lie that the vaxx prevented infection and transmission, at least for a few months. It has probably never done any such thing, but by refusing to test the vaxxed in the first 6 months or so of the roll-out, that’s how they gave their bogus claim credibility.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago

Clearly, Australia isn’t fit to host a tennis major – whoever wins the title this year, wins it by default, too.

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Sarigan
Sarigan
3 years ago

Got to laugh:

Djokovic court hearing plagued by livestream chaosThe live feed of the tennis star’s deportation suffers major technical difficulties as an old broadcast is hijacked with pornographic images

From comments at Off Guardian:

Did any one watch the Novak court trial today? In the last minute-when a judge- the most engaged throughout the appeal-in the far left bottom corner-was slipped a yellow piece of paper-and his behavior immediately changed-and he was clearly rattled-folding and fondling the curious paper-reminiscent of Captain Queeg in Caine Mutiny.
Totally weird.

Probably says something in the vein of “Remember those children you raped in 2014: Do the right thing”.

Yep-or we have the photos of you and your legal secretary …

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Andy R
Andy R
3 years ago
Reply to  Sarigan

Who was on all those Epstein tapes? Asking for a fiend.

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HumanRightsForever
HumanRightsForever
3 years ago

The treatment ND received turned him into the world famous icon of resistance. Did they really not predict that outcome? Who is thick enough not to be able to see that?

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NeilofWatford
NeilofWatford
3 years ago

How interesting now if a vaxxed player collapses at the Open …

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

When, not if, I would wager!

Of course, it will be blamed on ‘the heat’!

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

As with the African footballers they will be scanning them for heart lesions before they are allowed anywhere near a tennis court

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Sceptic Hank
Sceptic Hank
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

A couple already have in training – citing the heat

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Backlash
Backlash
3 years ago
Reply to  Sceptic Hank

Which of course will be branded “extreme” this year owing to global warming.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

Hope he wins the French Open and then Wimbledon

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CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

He may yet be banned from France and the UK.

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JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
3 years ago
Reply to  CovidiotAntiMasker

Yes, it occurred to me that Pres. “I want to piss off the unvaxxed” Macron might try to bar unvaxxed from participating at Roland Garros.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago
Reply to  CovidiotAntiMasker

The narrative is collapsing, sanity could be returning

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CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I admire your optimism.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

Morrisons ‘We must protect our strong borders. we must protect the sacrifices made by the Australian people’ could be a straight lift from Mein Kampf

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PatrickF
PatrickF
3 years ago

Bigots will always find a reason to justify their bigotry.

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mishmash
mishmash
3 years ago

And disgraceful political acts go hand in hand with disgraceful medical acts.
European Medicines Agency admits regular injections will destroy your immune system.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

The Australians are so thick that they still swear allegiance to the family that deported them there

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Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Not really they hate us Brits love gooks and slopes

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago

Political forms in history always reflect the character of the people who give rise to them.

The Poles and British are freedom-loving.

The Russians and Australians evidently not.

This shame will stick to the Aussies like Nazi shit to the Germans.

Last edited 3 years ago by BS665
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Fingal
Fingal
3 years ago

Excluding Djokovic is the right decision by a botched process. It was insulting that he should be given privileged access denied to ordinary Australians. Along the way we have discovered that he continued to meet people in public when he had already received a positive test. Great tennis player, not so great human being.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  Fingal

A positive test? If he wasn’t symptomatic, he was no threat to anyone – unless you’ve swallowed that part of the narrative which claims that asymptomatic people can spread a virus?
Oh, and he wasn’t awarded privileged status – he applied for an exemption using the existing rules!

Last edited 3 years ago by milesahead
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Bungle
Bungle
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Fingal is clearly akin to that hairy opening just under my lower back.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

He needs to bugger off back to his cave!

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JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
3 years ago
Reply to  Fingal

You mean like the privileged treatment given to movie starts and tennis players in 2021?

Movie stars got to quarantine in private mansions, tennis players were allowed outside to train for last year’s AO, even when other travellers were locked indoors for 2 weeks.

Nothing wrong with being angry about the double standards, but don’t fall for the Australian government’s petty trick of focusing your anger on 1 person, when many others have received the same privileged treatment. This is a deflection tactic.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

He approves of lockdown, the double standards are irrelevant.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

Tennis players weren’t allowed out to practice.

Many of them, including Novak Djokovic suffered injuries because of this.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Fingal

It was the rule of whim put into practice by a despotic regime, communist troll.

It was evil that ordinary Australians were locked down.

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Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
3 years ago
Reply to  Fingal

Fuck off 77

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago
Reply to  Fingal

The insult is to the ordinary Australians being denied their freedom for a politicial agenda

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rtaylor
rtaylor
3 years ago

Given the number of tennis players having to stop mid-game from myocarditis, the State broadcasters must be breathing uneasy (sorry). Just one match where a top seed player collapses and dies will be all thats needed for another cohort of sheeple to wake up.

Football has a 100x pull. The Qatar World Cup may see multiple collapses and deaths. Will malfunctioning air-con units in desert stadiums be blamed? I’m also thinking of the fans flying on long-haul flights…

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Mac57
Mac57
3 years ago
Reply to  rtaylor

https://palexander.substack.com/p/453-athlete-cardiac-arrests-serious
The truth will out, in the end.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago

Well, whoever wins the pathetic coward ping-pong jamboree should crawl up on his belly to get his undeserved prize.

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Bungle
Bungle
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

What are you doing here, Annie? Oh,yeah, same as me!

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
3 years ago

The world’s no. 1 tennis player has been deported for being fit and healthy, and deciding against taking an experimental gene therapy; that afforded him no benefits, yet exposed him to plenty of risks. Shame on you Australia – you are a disgrace.

Last edited 3 years ago by BJs Brain is Missing
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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

Nudge Unit tactics, Australians have made so many sacrifices, not that you were consulted, but we can’t let this person destroy those sacrifices

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
3 years ago

Illustration of what the Covidians are trying to sell

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago

I haven’t been to bothered about the Djokovic fiasco, but as the No 1 tennis player I can safely say that he is a very rich person and has staff to look after his arrangements and interests. I doubt very much that Novac personally books his flights, hotels, fills in forms etc. I’m happy to be corrected, but isn’t this a failing of his PA?

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iane
iane
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

Nope: this is a failing of a twisted totalitarian political culture. But, no worries, heh?!

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

It’s the fault of the Australian government shifting the goalposts to get him.

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Dale
Dale
3 years ago

Australia: what a horrible place to live. Or perhaps I should say what a horrible people to live amongst.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Dale

They’re gloating over Djokovic being deported, they revel in their Branch Covidian doomsday cultism.

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PaulMac66
PaulMac66
3 years ago

Jan 26th looks like it’s gonna be one momentous day. Looks like England is finally starting to wake up about how useless all restrictions have been. Even now the Labour Party are realising that lockdown doesn’t work. Not be long before the backtracking and apologies start. The rest of the world seem hell bent on carrying the nonsense on. Fuck the rest of the world. Fuckin knobs.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  PaulMac66

I hope I am wrong but your optimism seems a tad early.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  PaulMac66

Labour always knew lockdown didn’t work against Covid but, as socialists, they had to support lockdown.

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off_the_charts
off_the_charts
3 years ago

The Corona Ritual was always primarily an attack on the populations of the the West and the Anglosphere. That much is obvious to anyone who has been paying attention from the start of this utterly transparent charade. We can surmise Auz has been used as some sort of WEF proving ground, testing approaches that they hoped to roll out to the larger targets of Western Europe and the US.

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LonePatriot
LonePatriot
3 years ago

World sports leages like NFL secretly recommeding Ivermectin to their players. Who knows what is out there that recommeds this wonder drug while appearing as provax pro vaxxine cult. It is the trick of Satan. Do your own research and you will see the truth. Trust God and let Him direct you to truth. It is not easy to get this medicine because they are trying everything to block people accessing it. If you want you can get it from https://ivmpharmacy.com

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

To Hell with Australia!

To think Truss has signed a deal with these Fascists!

She is obviously of the Chamberlain School of “Conservatism”.

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C.S James
C.S James
3 years ago

But he lied on his forms.

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jrobs
jrobs
3 years ago

https://rumble.com/vsocno-la-quinta-columna-issues-report-on-microtechnology-found-in-pfizer-vials.html

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jrobs
jrobs
3 years ago

https://rumble.com/vsmrde-dr.-peter-mccullough-their-narrative-is-crumbling.html

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Sopwiththecamel
Sopwiththecamel
3 years ago

Totally disagree. He is not exempt from the rules just because he is famous. What is of concern is unelected judges making off the cuff legislation.

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Andy R
Andy R
3 years ago

The scariest thing about this is not that the Australian government is tyrannical but that the public overwhelmingly supports it’s tyranny.

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TheEngineer
TheEngineer
3 years ago

Time to end the Covid madness.

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marebobowl
marebobowl
3 years ago

Honestly, who cares if Novak is deported from Australia. This poor country is now lost to the cabal. Everyone knows this. Stay away from Australia.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago

“You are not required to be vaccinated to enter Australia, unless you enter Australia without being vaccinated, in which case you are required to be vaccinated to enter Australia.”

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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago

“The Immigration Minister Alex Hawke welcomed the unanimous ruling … “to cancel Mr Djokovic’s visa in the public interest””. It’s clear Hawke has not the faintest idea of how viruses spread and propagate, but like all politicians, is more afraid of being proved wrong and doing a U-turn than of the virus itself. Utterly disgraceful, the whole stinking lot of them!

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SomersetHoops
SomersetHoops
3 years ago

Once Australian tennis is controlled by politicians for the reasons of nothing to do with the health of anyone. its time for sport fans to ignore it. This should mean the Australian open loses it grand slam position in tennis and be downgraded to a competion for also rans. Given the facts of this matter the most disappointing thing for me is that the majority of Australians are supporting this disgraceful act by their government.

Last edited 3 years ago by SomersetHoops
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Smudger
Smudger
3 years ago

The Aussie Gov have gone stark raving bonkers on covid but so has every western government except the Swedish gov. As for the Serbian tennis player why should he be treated any different to anyone else who has fallen foul of the rules?

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Newman20
Newman20
3 years ago

Australia is to liberal democracy what the Taliban are to female emancipation!!

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9markshaw1
9markshaw1
3 years ago

Shame on the Australian Federal Court judges. But Djokovic, in history, will be judged as the big winner of the Grand Slam of all Grand Slams. The victor in something much bigger than any sport.

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BillyWiz
BillyWiz
3 years ago

So a large majority of Aussies wanted him deported. what did they think of Aussie government letting in a load of Hollywood actors during the middle of last year to party while Aussies could neither leave the country or return home?

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