• Login
  • Register
The Daily Sceptic
No Result
View All Result
  • Articles
  • About
  • Archive
    • ARCHIVE
    • NEWS ROUND-UPS
  • Podcasts
  • Newsletter
  • Premium
  • Donate
  • Log In
The Daily Sceptic
No Result
View All Result

News Round-Up

by Will Jones
24 February 2023 2:39 AM

  • “Fear we go again! U.K. health officials including ‘Professor Lockdown’ begin Covid-style ‘worst-case scenario’ planning for if bird flu becomes transmissible in humans – as girl, 11, dies and 12 more people are feared infected in Cambodia” – U.K. scientists are modelling a worst-case scenario bird flu outbreak amid reports that an 11-year-old girl died of the disease in Cambodia, the Mail reports.
  • “Covid expert Angela McLean is U.K.’s new Chief Scientific Adviser” – The mathematical biologist who co-chaired the SAGE subgroup that used epidemiology and mathematical modelling to guide the Government’s response to the pandemic, will take over from Patrick Vallance, reports Nature. Talk about rewarding failure and baking it in.
  • “Republican Senators Push Back Against Accord Giving WHO Power Over U.S. Pandemic Response” – Republican senators are pushing back with an effort to reinforce congressional power to authorise treaties, reports the Epoch Times.
  • “The lost generation: a global assault on children and young people” – “Children and young people should have been able to trust that, when the shit hit the fan, the adults-in-the-room would protect and nurture them,” writes Michael Jackson in Spectator Australia. “Instead, we instantly sacrificed their health, wellbeing, and futures on the altar of panic and performative Covid protocols.”
  • “Healthy vaccinee bias: loud and clear in an ONS analysis” – Professor Eyal Shahar gives his take on the ONS vaccine data.
  • “British Africans are Dying Less than South Asians and White British since the First Covid Wave” – Joel Smalley on some more evidence that contradicts the vaccine narrative.
  • “The latest ONS data on deaths by Covid vaccination status” – Norman Fenton and Martin Neil say the updated data contain “the same (and worse) systemic problems and multiple flaws”.
  • “Censors Use AI to Target Podcasts” – The collapse of support for free speech among Western pseudo-elites is the foundation of so many other problems, from medicine to war, writes Bret Swanson for Brownstone.
  • “A Vax Update” – Watch the latest Mark Steyn show covering the vaccine scandal.
  • “Drivers lose interest in electric cars as petrol prices tumble” – Demand for electric cars slumps as the energy crisis makes them more expensive to run, the Telegraph reports.
  • “Being surrounded by men ‘always disappointing’, says Christine Lagarde” – The Central Bank President indulges in some bizarre self-pity as she says it is “tough” for women to gain a foothold in policy making, the Telegraph reports.
  • “Is Shakespeare ‘far-Right’ now?” – Among the books on the reading list that could be a sign of ‘right-wing radicalisation’, some genius public servant came up with the complete works of Shakespeare, says Douglas Murray in the Spectator.
  • “Queen Consort appears to criticise Roald Dahl changes” – The Queen told a group of authors to “remain true to their calling” and resist “curbs on freedom of expression”, the Telegraph reports.
  • “The race is on to buy Roald Dahl’s original books” – In the wake of the classic children’s books being altered by ‘sensitivity readers’, demand for unedited copies is through the roof, reports the Telegraph.
  • “The brutal dirty tricks campaign against Kate Forbes is beginning to backfire” – As Nicola Sturgeon and John Swinney pour scorn on her beliefs while backing Humza Yousaf, SNP members think they’ve gone too far, says Alan Cochrane in the Telegraph.
  • “Protestants are now hounded out of politics, as Kate Forbes has shown” – Are we really a tolerant society when the ambitious are expected to renounce aspects of their faith, asks Fraser Nelson in the Telegraph.
  • “Why Kate Forbes is apologising” – Somewhat inevitably, Kate Forbes has issued a lengthy apology for causing “hurt” by her comments on her personal moral beliefs, writes Isabel Hardman in the Spectator. Apparently, they were insufficiently wrapped in cotton wool for today’s fragile woke snowflakes.
  • “‘Wokeism gone mad’: Fire chief sparks backlash after banning the word ‘fireman’ – because it’s ‘sexist and exclusionary’” – Dave Russel has insisted that the term ‘fireman’, which hasn’t been used officially since the late 1980s, will not be tolerated because it is “exclusionary and represents a form of micro-aggression'”, reports the Mail.
  • “Kent University says everyone should be called ‘they’ until you know their pronouns” – Kent University is encouraging students to refer to others as ‘they’ until it’s clear what the person’s pronouns are, according to the Telegraph. Isn’t that ‘misgendering’?
  • “Black Panther communist Angela Davis – who teaches that U.S. was built by racist colonisers – faces calls to pay reparations after genealogy show reveals her white puritan ancestor arrived in America on the Mayflower” – A Black Panther who’s also a communist has faced calls to pay reparations after discovering her ancestors were white puritans and slave owners, reports the Mail.

If you have any tips for inclusion in the round-up, email us here.

Tags: News Round-Up

Donate

We depend on your donations to keep this site going. Please give what you can.

Donate Today

Comment on this Article

You’ll need to set up an account to comment if you don’t already have one. We ask for a minimum donation of £5 if you'd like to make a comment or post in our Forums.

Sign Up
Previous Post

Net Zero to Blame for Vegetable Shortage

Next Post

How We Know it Started in Wuhan

Subscribe
Login
Notify of
Please log in to comment

To join in with the discussion please make a donation to The Daily Sceptic.

Profanity and abuse will be removed and may lead to a permanent ban.

27 Comments
Oldest
Newest Most Voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
TheBasicMind
TheBasicMind
1 year ago

Poor deluded Rishi, thinks because he’s managerialist and has a global outlook, and really also wants immigration to go unabated, understated Home Office civil servants would be on his side and see him as the best mild solution to the challenge of the pesky common man – you know those poor deluded types who think they are free men and governed by the Magna Carta – and would therefore throw Rishi a bone. He doesn’t understand the manners only cover how much they hate him and how tribal they really are. They were always bound to work in every way to scupper any “nasty right wing, racist grassroots pressure” challenging their total dominion over immigration.

The reality, of course, is that the home office types actually harbour a kind of passive aggressive version of fundamentalist tribal politics and the common man is far more authentic because he is happy to give voice to his prejudices and justify them. He doesn’t nurse them in the dark under the faux cover of mild manners.

Last edited 1 year ago by TheBasicMind
39
-1
GroundhogDayAgain
GroundhogDayAgain
1 year ago

I was initially surprised to see the Guardian published the article about sham papers.

Until halfway down, when they said Ivermectin and anti-vaxxers in the same sentence.

Now, I’m still fairly sure that Ivermectin was valid. I remember the video discussion between Dr Tess Lawrie and Andrew Hill, where he suddenly withdrew support, squirming like an eel and refusing to say why he’d changed his mind and instead said it needed a larger randomised trial.

https://drtesslawrie.substack.com/p/a-letter-to-dr-andrew-hill

My question now is: which ivermectin study(ies) were retracted? Was Tess Lawrie correct or was Andrew Hill? Are the Grauniad right to crow about this?

Have we always been at war with Oceania?

48
-1
186NO
186NO
1 year ago
Reply to  GroundhogDayAgain

It appears the only thing Hill was correct in saying was, in effect, those external forces who were causing him to dance on a pin head….. and not answer Tess Laurie’s legitimate and squirm inducing reaction.
Meanwhile, in “other news”, check out the Unitaid donation to the University of Liverpool..and the timing …..a mere coincidence , “nothing to see here”.

13
0
Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
1 year ago

Lockdowns Masks Social Distancing Compliance Control

latest leaflet to print at home and deliver to neighbours or forward to politicians, media, friends online. 

02b-Lockdowns-Masks-Social-Distancing-Compliance-Control-MONOCHROME-copy
28
-2
Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
1 year ago

Wednesday morning
Sandhurst Rd Finchampstead Rd Wokingham
He’s strong, intelligent, handsome … and he’s Britain’s youngest freedom fighter who knows his own mind.
He was getting cold in his pushchair so he asked his dad to take him home.

219
42
-2
Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
1 year ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

I’d honk were it not for the chemtrails bit. I see absolutely nothing other than aerodynamic and exhaust condensation. I first heard of the chemtrails idea at my first Stand In The Park in Leeds.

29
-22
DS99
DS99
1 year ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

I get that it sounds far fetched but how do you explain a latticework of condensation trails every few days for a month or so and then nothing for months – what sort of aircraft would create that and why? I live in a rural area, nowhere near any sort of flight path or military base. If you can give me a good explanation of that, I’d be happy to listen.

Last edited 1 year ago by DS99
46
-5
Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
1 year ago
Reply to  DS99

The UK is one the busiest air corridors in the world. Planes cross at all angles.

The air is not a single homogeneous mass. It varies in pressure, humidity, temperature, speed. From day to day, season to season, square mile to square mile, from hour to hour.

Although under certain weather conditions the air can be very consistent over huge areas.

Where I live in the Pyrenees, it is not a busy air corridor. I see two a day, at most, because there are almost no jet engines in the sky.

Exhaust contrails are an unintended side-effect of the turbofan engine. Aerodynamic contrails are an unintended side-effect of wings and other leading edges compressing the cold air and forcing it to cool rapidly as it expands when it leaves the edges. Contrails are literally man-made clouds.

Last edited 1 year ago by Marcus Aurelius knew
20
-8
DS99
DS99
1 year ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

I understand how contrails are formed and having lived on a flight path of a busy airport, I am well aware of what they look like. The question I have is why would any pilot want to create a latticework of flight paths day after day and then disappear for a few months, only to return to repeat? If you have a good explanation for that, I would welcome hearing it.

If it was just me, I might think some mad bloke with loads of cash for fuel was just messing about in my area and using some new biofuel that behaves differently from regular fuel, but I’ve seen these patterns all over the UK and abroad. So, why do you think this is happening because your assumption that it is just regular planes and their contrails doesn’t seem to fit my reality.

And by the way, spraying the public has previous. During the 1950s and 1960s at least two areas of the UK were sprayed without the knowledge of the public, supposedly to test some bioweapon for the Cold War. Have a search online about these experiments.

But honestly MA, I do really envy you if you’re only see two contrails a day – it sounds lovely. And I do understand I’m probably not going to convince you!

Last edited 1 year ago by DS99
15
0
Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
1 year ago
Reply to  DS99

I could have written your post this morning 👍 I too paid no attention to the chem trail theory but the stacked lattice patterns I’ve seen could not be from random flights ! We live in an agricultural county btw .

17
0
DS99
DS99
1 year ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

Yup, I noticed them over Northumberland, an empty and vast agriculture county. A clear blue sky and then two planes arrive.

16
0
Dinger64
Dinger64
1 year ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Some retired American aviation expert with 40 years in flight engineering said recently that vapour trails do not behave like you see them doing now!
Can’t remember the guys name.
I’m somewhat on the fence with this one, it’s seems plausible and questionable at the same time!

18
0
Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
1 year ago
Reply to  Dinger64

I’m ready to be proved wrong. But I researched it extensively since early 2020 when I first heard of the idea. So far, they’re contrails.

And I am very well aware that there are certain people who would love to mass-medicate the human race by spraying stuff on us. But evil bastards want all sorts of things which do not, as yet, happen. And why go to the trouble of spraying it from 38000 feet? It could land anywhere, including on the evil mastermind’s head!

Last edited 1 year ago by Marcus Aurelius knew
13
-3
Dinger64
Dinger64
1 year ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

I though it was Billy Gates of hell idea to block out sunlight and so cool the planet?

8
0
Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
1 year ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Idea, yes. Crazy idea, yes. Actually happening, no. Will it happen, possibly!

1
-3
AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
1 year ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Chemtrails or geo-engineering has been out in the public domain for a long time, Marcus. Dane Wigington at geoengineeringwatch.com has written and broadcast extensively about it. It is one of those ‘pinch’ points for refuseniks because they carry on with the concept that ordinary contrails just spread across the sky eventually creating a haze and blocking out the sun. That’s contrails which are mainly ice crystals so in effect a great cloud of ice crystals that even in summer refuse to evaporate. Even the clearly expressed grid patterns are a sign that something isn’t straightforward. Why a grid pattern? In such a pattern, it is much easier to create the haze effect. For so many who are awake to the toxic jabs and the fact that they have not been stopped despite the evidence of all the harm and death caused, the idea that their governments have been carrying out a vast toxic dispersal programme in plain sight is a conspiracy too far. Just like 9/11 was clearly a bunch of extremists who managed to pilot planes into key buildings and bring them down and then evaporate the planes. But Building 7? So, how about this then? the next time you wake up on a beautiful blue sky day with the sun shining above, note if and when the planes start creating these ‘contrails’ and what happens firstly to the beautiful blue day and secondly what the weather is like the next day. You might have been researching it for years but go and visit Dane Wigington’s site and you’ll come across a totally different viewpoint.

Last edited 1 year ago by AethelredTheReadier
13
-2
Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
1 year ago
Reply to  AethelredTheReadier

“even in Summer”

It’s 38000 feet. Do you know how cold it gets up there?

6
-2
MichaelM
MichaelM
1 year ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

My understanding is that the chemtrails tend to be at much lower altitudes.

8
0
Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
1 year ago
Reply to  MichaelM

Specifically?

All the “chemtrails” people send me photos of are at 30k-40k feet.

The most prominent are exhaust contrails, i.e. huge quantities of cold, moist air which has passed through the large, cold, thrust generating section of the turbofan jet engine, compressing hugely as it goes, then undergoing adiabatic expansion as it decompresses rapidly causing massive cooling and freezing its water content to ice.

You didnt see so much of this forty years ago because the much less powerful and less efficient turbojet engines pushed only hot air out the back. You were a lot more likely to see only exhaust from the burning of kerosene, which is grey.

Last edited 1 year ago by Marcus Aurelius knew
10
-3
Dinger64
Dinger64
1 year ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

If its generally cold at that altitude all the time shouldn’t contrails behave the same way all the time? Just seems to me that on certain days they are disappearing as soon as they leave the plane and other days stretch the whole way across the sky and then drift for ages! Never understood this if the temp doesn’t alter all that much?

6
0
Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
1 year ago
Reply to  Dinger64

It’s not just temperature.

Here are the other things which have a direct impact on the number, persistence/length, shape of the contrails:

Air the plane is flying through:
Pressure.
Humidity.
Stability, strength and direction of air streams over time.

The plane itself:
Jet engine type and size.
Airplane wing geometry.

Other factors:
Day of the week.
Latest government nonsense, e.g. Lockdowns.

Last edited 1 year ago by Marcus Aurelius knew
1
-1
Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
1 year ago
Reply to  AethelredTheReadier

Contrails are manmade clouds. They do indeed affect the weather, albeit briefly. I am not disputing this. But where we differ is that I believe contrails are unintended consequences of the jet engine and leading edges and that the trails are made of ice.

I am also not disputing that certain organisations have sprayed things in the air.

Last edited 1 year ago by Marcus Aurelius knew
9
-2
AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
1 year ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Read what Dane Wigington (geoengineeringwatch.com) has to say and then come back and have a conversation. I don’t have all the answers but he has been researching this for a long time

8
0
DHJ
DHJ
1 year ago

Interesting comment on the recent right-wing rally promoting Jewish resettlement of Gaza highlighting the religious influence, an aspect missing from a Reuters report on the same event.

https://m.jpost.com/opinion/article-784999

5
-6
DHJ
DHJ
1 year ago

Zionists don’t need to control the media any more than any other minority group. It only needs a culture of self-censorship for fear of cancellation or loss of funding coupled with the long-term effect of hiring people who think correctly.

10
-9
DHJ
DHJ
1 year ago
Reply to  DHJ

Not my downvote but I’m suggesting that direct control is not necessary because of other factors that can be funded and leveraged to give the same result.

I’m also not saying there is no Zionist control of the media as I don’t know although if there’s pharma-controlled media, why not Zionist-controlled?

9
-5
A Y M
A Y M
1 year ago
Reply to  DHJ

Zionists control Americain Foreign policy and parts of UK foreign policy.
AIPAC determines who gets to stay in power at all levels of congress to the executive.

They have also taken over ideologically through the NeoCon movement.

All Middle East conflicts and quagmires can be viewed as wars that Zionists pushed through the neocons in the US: And they are back.

Beyond that the Israeli zionists uses its secret service in conjunction with the US CIA to run false flag operations of various scales for decades no an attempt to inflame tensions with the Islamic world and maintain constant hot war stances against them and to dehumanise and alienate Israel’s neighbours.

Then there are the Christian fundamentalist Zionists…

How is it that the complete decimation of 2.3 million people can avoid being the front of all main media outlets?

Seems to me, one way or another, the Zionists have the MSM on their side.

16
-9
Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago

WTF is this? She gets booked by the police and is required to remove her hijab for the photo, therefore it’s only right she is compensated 100,000 dollars for the degrading experience and resulting trauma. I mean, anything to avoid getting labelled with the dreaded ”Islamophobic” slur, right? Plenty examples of that in the UK.

”There are several ways to get rich in Old Joe Biden’s America. Among the most notable are winning an elected office, being the son of a major elected official, and being part of one of the left’s protected victim groups who can make a case for having been the victim of discrimination. That last one is why a woman in Tennessee, Sophia Johnston, is $100,000 richer today.

The Nashville Tennessean reported Monday that Johnston “has reached a settlement with Rutherford County and members of the Rutherford County Sheriff’s Office after she was forced to remove her hijab for a booking photo at the Rutherford County Detention Center in late August.” Johnston claimed that “the forced removal of her religious covering for a minor — and since dismissed — criminal booking violated her First Amendment right to practice her religion without interference.”

Even worse, Johnston contended, it was obscene. The Miami Herald reported in August 2023 that “forcing an observant Muslim woman to remove her hijab in front of men who are not family is ‘humiliating and degrading,’ according to the lawsuit, which likened doing so to making a woman remove her shirt in public.”

https://pjmedia.com/robert-spencer/2024/02/02/jackpot-muslim-woman-in-tennessee-gets-100000-for-having-to-remove-her-hijab-for-a-mugshot-n4926080

23
-2
Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Christian speaker Hatun Tash was strip searched after being arrested for “criminal damage” at Speakers Corner last week, kept in a cell without her spectacles for 15 hours, and then released without charge (into the street wearing police-issued grey shift and no underwear, which was handed to her in a bag).

Her return rail ticket having expired, she was also without money to get home, and was told she should pick up her abandoned belongings at Hyde Park (fortunately fellow Christians had rescued them).

Her “crime” was to have been robbed of a Quran by one of the Muslim crowd, which blocked her from retrieving it. The Quran was being used by a Muslim speaker later, but no efforts were made by the police to retrieve it.

Last year Hatun was attacked with a knife at Speakers Corner. Her assailant was caught on video, and the mosque he attends is known. No arrest has been made.

Forgive me if I can’t get exercised about the civil rights of the hijab wearer when basic justice is being replaced by sectarian mob rule in our own capital.

Last edited 1 year ago by Jon Garvey
53
0
Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

Well that’s just the point I’m making. The examples of capitulation and two-tier policing are endless and keep on coming. Authorities in the West have become Islam’s bitches and that’s an indisputable fact. Tommy Robinson is still barred from London for doing nothing but yesterday we were once again exposed to a load of genocidal-obsessed, Jihad flag-waving mentalists, screeching their hatred and ignorance, the police do nothing. But Christians sing a hymn outside at their peril!

https://twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1753803077423865961

39
-1
stewart
stewart
1 year ago

Weakened by years of cuts and strategic MoD reductions, the forces are faltering just as the possibility of all-out war is nearing

Here we go again. What the hell? Why is war nearing? How did we go from peace for 80 years and a national war being almost inconceivable to “war nearing”?

This isn’t the opinion of some journalist. This is a campaign to start normalising the idea of all out war in the minds of the British public.

The neo-con establishment in the US and UK is trying to provoke global war. And it’s really serious because if there is one thing you can almost guarantee is that if someone wants to kick off a fight and persists with the idea, it’s almost guaranteed.

Whoever is pushing for global war needs to be stopped. Rapidly or this is going to get very very ugly.

54
0
Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

“Or what king on his way to war with another king will not first sit down and consider whether he can engage with ten thousand men the one coming against him with twenty thousand? And if he is unable, he will send a delegation while the other king is still far off, to ask for terms of peace.” (Jesus Christ, Luke 14)

Well, the UK government, that’s who. Thus “king” has convinced himself that diplomacy is appeasement, and that it’s better to create a pre-emptive war against a much bigger power just in case, down to the last Briton.

17
0
Monro
Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

We tried appeasement in 2013 and 2014.

How did that work out……?

And, by the way, Russia has about the same size economy as Spain…..

Last edited 1 year ago by Monro
1
-20
stewart
stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  Monro

So?

Are you claiming a war between Spain and Russia would be an even fight?

Please tell me you are, so that you can reveal once and for all the robustness of your thinking.

21
0
Monro
Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

I’m not sure that comparing a country that spends at least 6% of its gdp on defence with one that spends less than 2% is particularly robust thinking, is it?

The point is that we have little to fear from Russia provided we follow the age old principle: if you wish for peace, then prepare for war.

In reality, all we have to do is increase our own defence spending to 3.5% of GDP, easily achieved by efficiency reforms within the NHS and elsewhere.

The MoD can contribute to efficiency reforms by returning the Royal Air Force to the British Army as the Royal Flying Corps.

4
-11
AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
1 year ago
Reply to  Monro

Little to fear apart from their ageing nuclear arsenal… Also, that age old principle ‘if you wish for peace, then prepare for war.’ is utter tripe, probably devised by a banker. If you wish for peace, prepare for peace. How simple does it have to be? If you want war, then prepare for war. Can you see any signs of anyone preparing for war so we can have peace? There would be no peace unless thousands of people die horrible deaths and huge destruction. What sort of peace is that?

16
0
Monro
Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  AethelredTheReadier

Ukraine gave up its nuclear warheads in return for written ‘security assurances’ in 1994. It has been invaded since, twice.

Chamberlain received written ‘security assurances’ in 1938.

Millions subsequently died.

You are entitled to your view.

Me? I prefer deterrence to appeasement.

Last edited 1 year ago by Monro
6
-6
AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
1 year ago
Reply to  Monro

Did I mention appeasement? No. Deterrence is only a deterrence if it works as it’s meant to. Then there’s that point when it doesn’t. So much for deterrence then. Also, since when did working towards peace become ‘appeasement’? we used to have people out there in teh wider world who would work towards peace. Also, if you read the United Nations Charter, it is practically ALL about ensuring peace and yet time and time again it has been ignored and especially now. I am for peace. You, of course, are entitled to YOUR view too.

12
0
Monro
Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  AethelredTheReadier

No, you didn’t mention appeasement. Nevertheless that is what you are proposing.

Syria used chemical weapons in 2013. Parliament voted to do nothing, despite Britain being a signatory to the Chemical Weapons Convention. Hundreds of thousands died, millions displaced.

Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. We did nothing, despite giving Ukraine ‘security assurances’ in 1994 in return for it giving up its nuclear warheads. Russia invaded again in 2022, hundreds of thousands died, millions displaced.

You now see the results of appeasement in stark clarity.

Any ‘peace negotiations’ between Russia and Ukraine will simply be for reasons of expediency by both parties.

That war has deep historical roots. It will end, as in Korea, with a military line of demarcation and demilitarized zone. That will require policing and Ukraine will wish for Britain to participate. And we will participate, which will be expensive, requiring 3.5% of GDP to be spent on defence.

You may not like this state of affairs but there it is.

Last edited 1 year ago by Monro
0
-8
AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
1 year ago
Reply to  Monro

Stop putting words in my mouth. I am not proposing ‘appeasement’. Not at all. I am hoping that somewhere, somehow and sometime (bloody soon) that some adults appear in the room and begin a peace process. Not an ‘appeasement’ process but a peace process. I get a feeling that you have some personal axe to grind against Russia and any countries that it is involved with (Syria) but let’s be very clear that it is NATO pushing this war. We could have had a peace early in 2022 but Johnson and others were adamant that this could not happen and pushed more arms and money into the diabolical Ukrainian state to keep the war going. Also, you make quite sweeping statements about Britain’s future involvement based on what exactly? Have you got an inside line that no one else has? Like me and others, all you have are opinions.

6
0
Monro
Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  AethelredTheReadier

‘Working towards peace’ is precisely what Chamberlain and Daladier thought they were doing in 1938.

They were wrong, just as you are wrong.

They were appeasing an expansionist Germany, just as you effectively propose appeasing an expansionist Russia. You may not like the word but it is entirely apposite.

Putin does not want peace. He wants a ‘Union State’ incorporating Belarus (done), Ukraine (partially done), Moldova and the Baltic States with a new iron curtain from Kaliningrad to Odesa.

Ukraine does not want peace until it has regained all the territories for which it received ‘security assurances’ (as a consequence of ‘working for peace’ by Britain, the U.S. and Russia. How well that went.) in 1994.

If your ‘peace’ includes Ukraine giving up territory, then it most certainly is appeasement of an aggressor….and will simply lead to more aggression, as appeasement always does: weak, weak, weak, and seen as such by Putin, as by so many mindless dictators before him.

Do you expect Ukraine to surrender territory in any ‘peace’ negotiations?

Last edited 1 year ago by Monro
0
-2
MichaelM
MichaelM
1 year ago
Reply to  Monro

I wasn’t aware Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. I thought that Ukraine soldiers of Russian origin based in the Crimea merely defected to Russia following the US-organised coup to topple Yanukovych (friendly to Russia) with Poroshenko (friendly to the US). This defection gave Russia de facto military control of the Crimea.

4
0
Monro
Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  MichaelM

‘(Putin) told reporters that the heavily armed men are “local self-defense forces.’ 04 March 2014

‘“It’s not all Russian forces. There are Russian forces that are increasing the security level for [the] Russian naval base.’ 16 March 2014

‘Putin said during his annual televised question-and-answer session with the public that “certainly, our officers stood behind Crimean self-defenders.” 17 April 2014

In the March 2015 documentary aired on Russian state television: Putin said he told top security officials of his intent to take Crimea shortly after Yanukovych abandoned power.

“I said that the situation in Ukraine has unfolded in such a way that we are forced to begin the work of returning Crimea to Russia,”

The film, titled ‘Crimea: The Way Home’ makes clear that the “little green men” who took control of the Crimean government buildings, airports, and other facilities were Russian soldiers.

‘”In order to block and disarm 20,000 well-armed [Ukrainian soldiers], you need a specific set of personnel. And not just in numbers, but with skill. We needed specialists who know how to do it,” Putin said in the documentary.

“That’s why I gave orders to the Defense Ministry — why hide it? — to deploy special forces of the GRU (military intelligence) as well as marines and commandos there under the guise of reinforcing security for our military facilities in Crimea,” Putin added.

0
0
stewart
stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  Monro

How many times is the Munich Chamberlain appeasement trope going to be trotted out?

It’s the most used and abused logical fallacy to try to drive people in the war.

That was appeasement, so everything is appeasement.

It reveals exactly zero imagination and zero intellectual rigour.

9
0
Monro
Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

How many times is the silly word ‘trope’ going to be trotted out?

Chamberlain and Daladier accepted ‘security assurances’ in 1938. Ukraine accepted ‘security assurances’ in 1994.

Both turned out to be wrong.

The only difference is that Ukraine was invaded twice.

1
-3
huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  AethelredTheReadier

Increasing defence spending is always achievable it is how the money is spent that matters. And when we are talking OPM the waste is baked in.

3
0
AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Sorry HP but OPM? I’m an acronymophobe and need some of them spelled out!

3
0
Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
1 year ago
Reply to  Monro

“The MoD can contribute to efficiency reforms by returning the Royal Air Force to the British Army as the Royal Flying Corps.”

Could you elaborate?

Not disputing, just genuinely interested to understand more about this idea.

1
0
Monro
Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

The whole of the British Armed Forces are similar in size to the U.S. Marine Corps; circa 180,000 men.

The U.S. marine corps has its own ships and twice the number of aircraft that the RAF has.

If we reorganised our entire armed forces along the lines of the U.S. Marine Corps (established in 1775), we could (and should) achieve significant efficiencies by reducing service staffs and MoD civil servants from three down to one branch.

The idea of returning the RAF back to the British Army as the RFC that it used to be would bring it back under command of the British Army for Close Air Support purposes (definitely a more effective command and control solution) and allow strategic national air defence/strike to be conducted by the Fleet Air Arm which has those roles already in respect of carrier strike groups.

Makes far too much sense so it will never happen…..

Last edited 1 year ago by Monro
1
0
AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
1 year ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

It’s not the UK government. It’s the people behind the UK government as usual, the people who actually profit from war and acquire more power. Our government is just a bunch of muppet puppets doing the bidding of far more powerful forces. There are no politicians of conviction in government just opportunists, cowards, and liars.

21
0
huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  AethelredTheReadier

100% Aethelred. 👍

8
0
Monro
Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

Why is war nearing…….

Why are Finland and Sweden joining NATO?

Why is Poland buying 1250 tanks?

Maybe those a bit closer to the action have spotted something coming over the hill……

8
-15
stewart
stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  Monro

I’m afraid that when it comes to warmongering, at least in the last 35 years, no one can hold a candle to the UK-US.

You know that. We all know that.

Despite your incessant banging of the “Russia is going to invade Europe” drum, you know full well that Russia or China reaching a military alliance with Mexico or Canada would be an act of such reckless provocation that the US, rightly or wrongly, would never tolerate.

When someone goads someone else into throwing a punch, and everyone sees exactly what happened, nobody with any common sense claims the person who threw the punch started it. Unless what they really want is to stir up trouble.

24
0
Monro
Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

Russia has already invaded Europe in 1812, 1914, 1939, 1956, 1967, 2014, 2022.

I’ve probably left some out!

The U.S. already has Russia on its doorstep across the Bering Strait, no need for Russia to make a play in Mexico.

The fact of the matter is that the U.S., Poland, Finland, Sweden and the Baltic States all see the threat and they are a great deal closer to Russia than we are.

If you wish for peace, then prepare for war.

Last edited 1 year ago by Monro
1
-15
AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
1 year ago
Reply to  Monro

No, they are being told to react thereby creating the illusion of a threat that the media can all buy into. I don’t see an already war fatigued Russia as having the willpower, arms, soldiers etc to even begin to think about taking back huge swathes of their former empire/republic. Once again, you are falling for the idea that Russia is coming to get us, propagated by the US and by osmosis, the UK too. The idea is to create fear, uncertainty, chaos and then to do what they really want to do which is to introduce all the control measures they’ve been having wet dreams about. Who do you think is really pulling the strings here in this theatre? As per usual, it is bankers, the people who fund all the arms, missiles, planes etc. Huge amounts of money to be made plus depopulation and chaos.

19
0
Monro
Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  AethelredTheReadier

Russia is coming for Ukraine. Moldova, and the Baltic States are next. Belarus has already been absorbed into the ‘Union State’.

Of course Russia is not coming for us. But they are coming for other NATO members.

And that means war, sooner if we do nothing or later, probably not at all, if we take steps to restore a conventional deterrence on the continent of Europe.

Last edited 1 year ago by Monro
0
-12
huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  AethelredTheReadier

Spot on once again Aethelred.

10
0
stewart
stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  Monro

The fact that you count 1812 and 1914 as a Russian invasions of Europe, says everything one needs to know about your list and your arguments.

How about you now make a list of the times Russia has been attacked/invaded.

And another one showing the wars that the US-UK have been involved in in that same time period.

If you want peace, stop provoking wars, stop provoking countries, stop trying to bring nations around the world to submission.

Not as catchy, but more honest and effective.

7
0
Monro
Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

How about you sticking to the point? This is not complicated.

Russian aggression in Europe 1956, 1967, 1994, 1999, 2008, 2014, 2022 has, understandably, made its neighbours extremely nervous.

That has nothing to do with U.S. actions, whatever view you may take of them.

I, personally, do believe that the Blair/Clinton Kosovo crisis air and ground campaign set a very bad precedent which would return to haunt us, and said so at the time. But that campaign certainly does not, in any way, justify Putin’s disastrous two invasions of Ukraine or any of his other flagrant aggressions.

It is just plain silly to profess that Putin has been ‘provoked’ into invading Ukraine. He has a whole department set up to plan his Union State programme to incorporate Belarus (done), Ukraine (partially accomplished), Moldova and the Baltic States, with a new iron curtain from Kaliningrad to Odesa.

The best guess is that it will take Russia ten years from a ceasefire to move forward once more with the Union State project.

It will certainly take NATO ten years to be ready and, in order to deter any such further adventurism, NATO must, in ten years time, and preferably well before, be ready.

Last edited 1 year ago by Monro
0
-4
AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
1 year ago
Reply to  Monro

Ten years? I think the world will have moved on in 10 years time.

2
0
Monro
Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  AethelredTheReadier

That was very much the thinking in 1918

1921 German military re-established

1930 NSDAP largest party in Germany

Ukraine and Russia have not moved on regarding this conflict for over ten centuries.

0
0
Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

It’s probably the only certain way to cover their Jab tracks & the WEF agendas , most of the world is protesting in some form or other , no one believes their lies anymore so they will stop us somehow !!…

17
0
huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

Yes, there is merit in that position Freddy.

7
0
stewart
stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

That’s exactly what I think.

Whenever things get away from them and they want to reassert control they provoke a world war.

8
0
Monro
Monro
1 year ago

“How the British Army lost its way” 

Get the British Army out of Whitehall and away from the bumbling, hyper-political, civil service culture which has infected it.

Weed out the Lieutenant Colonel/One Star careerism which makes the life of staff officers with families hell, working days that start at 0800hrs or earlier and finish in central London at 2000hrs (because the senior officers won’t go home), with accommodation at least an hour’s travel away.

Empower the High Command by giving them real control over their budgets so they, in their turn, can and must commit to delegating far more power down to Regimental/Battalion level where it is most useful.

Start up a new Ministry of National Security, outside London (nowhere near Abbey Wood, Bristol!) with a new culture and spirit of enterprise and let it gradually take over from the now completely dysfunctional MoD which must be closed down forever.

Make the military responsible for their own recruiting.

Forward deploy an Armoured Division in Poland, similar to the old British Army on the Rhine. That is where it is needed. Trickling regiments out there, unaccompanied, for a few months at a time simply won’t cut the mustard.

Oh yes and, sad to say, close down the Royal Air Force. Revert back to the Royal Flying Corps. The RAF has far too few aircraft to justify its existence and I very much doubt that any of its ground crew, let alone pilots, these days, know any skill at arms which they must if they are to form part of an ‘Armed Service’. The Royal Navy and the non teeth arm parts of the British Army need a serious look in the mirror in that regard as well.

But apart from that (and the gymnasiums on warships where cruise missiles should sit) The defence of the realm, the first duty of government, is all going really well……not……

Last edited 1 year ago by Monro
6
-2
Dinger64
Dinger64
1 year ago

There’s a hell of a lot of chatter in the media concerning ‘all out war’ just lately!
Is it more of the ‘fear aids control’ campaign or do they know something we don’t?

17
0
AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
1 year ago
Reply to  Dinger64

It’s all the fear nonsense they like to spread when the public look too comfy again. Obviously there is no ‘all out war’ other than the one created in the minds of bankers, WEF’rs and other nefarious types to wish to hasten the control grid. People like Ellwood and that recently retired general – Sanders – like to keep spreading this cr&p about but it is just that: cr&p.

9
0
Monro
Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  AethelredTheReadier

So you say but Sweden and Finland are now joining NATO and Poland is buying 1250 new tanks.

So….who to believe? The governments of three countries bordering Russia or some random punter a thousand miles from the action on the interweb?

Tricky……or not really…..

1
-1
Rose Madder
Rose Madder
1 year ago

“We are all doomed!” –Prof Pascal Richet wrote this up for Copernicus magazine. Article was pulled after peer review approval.

https://www.history-of-geo-and-space-sciences.net/2021-05-26_hgss-2021-1_latest-version-of-the-manuscript.pdf

So if co2 lags temperature it cannot drive. So we don’t need to decarbonise.

Thank goodness for that.

16
0
JayBee
JayBee
1 year ago

Read this and continue to believe that ‘the Zionists do not control the media’:
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2024/02/quality-and-propaganda/
As Taki would say, or that the Greeks and Norwegians do not control shipping.

7
-6
A Y M
A Y M
1 year ago
Reply to  JayBee

It only takes trashy fakes to get the trashy news organs to rile up the mindless Zionist supporting sock puppets.

Reminds me of the sham news on Covid deaths. It’s easy to fool people who love their own emotional viewpoints, fear or hatred, or both.

5
-3
EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
1 year ago

After nearly a year I issued county court small claims papers against Cambridgeshire CC and I got my money. If the council has prior knowledge of the pothole they have to pay. Always report them if you can but the number in some roads are so great the CC cannot not know.

7
0
EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
1 year ago

The use of so many stories from the DT prevent most uf us, I expect, from getting the most out of the DS site. I have not got a subscripotion to the DT or the Speccie and I do not intend to have them again. How can I tell what the stories are about which Toby brings to our attention.

Is there not a better way.

9
0
Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
1 year ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

I read articles on DT (when and if I want, obviously, which is not often) without having a subscription simply by placing a “12ft.io” prefix.

e.g. 12ft.io/https://telegraph.co.uk

Last edited 1 year ago by Marcus Aurelius knew
4
0
GroundhogDayAgain
GroundhogDayAgain
1 year ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

You can also use the no-script browser extension to get the full text. It’s not the most sophisticated paywall.

2
0
MichaelM
MichaelM
1 year ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

You could also simply copy the website URL for the article into the box on the following website:

https://archive.is

Always works for me

3
0
huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/03/how-the-british-army-lost-its-way/

Who the hell are we going to war with and for what purpose?

8
0

NEWSLETTER

View today’s newsletter

To receive our latest news in the form of a daily email, enter your details here:

DONATE

PODCAST

Episode 36 of the Sceptic: Karl Williams on Starmer’s Phoney Immigration Crackdown, Dan Hitchens on the Assisted Suicide Bill and Tom Jones on Reform’s Local Council Challenge

by Richard Eldred
16 May 2025
0

LISTED ARTICLES

  • Most Read
  • Most Commented
  • Editor’s Picks

Chinese ‘Kill Switches’ Found in US Solar Farms

15 May 2025
by Will Jones

News Round-Up

16 May 2025
by Richard Eldred

Spy Agency Report on the Alleged “Extremism” of AfD Turns Out to Be So Stupid That it Destroys all Momentum for Banning the Party

16 May 2025
by Eugyppius

The Folly of Solar – a Dot on the Horizon Versus a Blight on the Land

16 May 2025
by Ben Pile

Civil Servants Threaten to Strike Over Trans Ban in Women’s Lavatories

16 May 2025
by Will Jones

The Folly of Solar – a Dot on the Horizon Versus a Blight on the Land

29

Civil Servants Threaten to Strike Over Trans Ban in Women’s Lavatories

26

Spy Agency Report on the Alleged “Extremism” of AfD Turns Out to Be So Stupid That it Destroys all Momentum for Banning the Party

19

News Round-Up

18

Chinese ‘Kill Switches’ Found in US Solar Farms

27

Trump’s Lesson in Remedial Education

16 May 2025
by Dr James Allan

Spy Agency Report on the Alleged “Extremism” of AfD Turns Out to Be So Stupid That it Destroys all Momentum for Banning the Party

16 May 2025
by Eugyppius

The Folly of Solar – a Dot on the Horizon Versus a Blight on the Land

16 May 2025
by Ben Pile

Renaud Camus on the Destruction of Western Education

15 May 2025
by Dr Nicholas Tate

‘Why Can’t We Talk About This?’

15 May 2025
by Richard Eldred

POSTS BY DATE

February 2023
M T W T F S S
 12345
6789101112
13141516171819
20212223242526
2728  
« Jan   Mar »

SOCIAL LINKS

Free Speech Union
  • Home
  • About us
  • Donate
  • Privacy Policy

Facebook

  • X

Instagram

RSS

Subscribe to our newsletter

© Skeptics Ltd.

Welcome Back!

Login to your account below

Forgotten Password? Sign Up

Create New Account!

Fill the forms below to register

All fields are required. Log In

Retrieve your password

Please enter your username or email address to reset your password.

Log In
No Result
View All Result
  • Articles
  • About
  • Archive
    • ARCHIVE
    • NEWS ROUND-UPS
  • Podcasts
  • Newsletter
  • Premium
  • Donate
  • Log In

© Skeptics Ltd.

wpDiscuz
You are going to send email to

Move Comment
Perfecty
Do you wish to receive notifications of new articles?
Notifications preferences