Mark Kerry was a healthy 48 year-old from Worcestershire, a father of three, grandfather of two and a loving husband to his wife Melanie. Together with Melanie, Mark loved life and lived it to the full, they socialised with friends every weekend, loved to travel and loved holidays.
Mark and Melanie run mobile home parks and were heavily impacted in 2020 when the COVID-19 pandemic hit. With the mobile home business being a mixture of residential and holidays, the holiday side was halted when lockdown and heavy restrictions were enforced. As with millions of people worldwide, they found themselves spending most of their time at home.
Like most of us, Mark was eager to get life back to some form of normality and, knowing the business was suffering and being self-employed, the quicker the better.
In late 2020, nine months into the COVID-19 pandemic, it was announced that a Covid vaccine had been approved and was being rolled out to stop the spread of the virus and save lives, ready for use in December 2020.
This was exciting news for Mark and Melanie. Their lives and their business had been placed on hold for far too long and they were ready and eager to resume their lives as they were pre-pandemic; the vaccine was the way out. Mark waited patiently for his turn to have his first jab. While waiting, the media was full of stories of how wonderful these vaccines were and that everyone absolutely must get this vaccine. It was suggested if you don’t get the vaccine you are being selfish. The Prime Minister and Cabinet ministers were telling the public daily on TV that everyone must have it, as well as every news channel and road signs everywhere saying the same. GPs were sending letters, flyers were coming through the door, doctors were all over the TV, with some doctors even suggesting the AstraZeneca vaccine was 100% safe and effective. This of course was what we were all hoping for and most of the population believed.
Finally it was Marks turn to have his vaccine. On March 2nd 2021 Mark had his first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine. Initially everything was fine and Mark seemed to escape the mild flu-like side-effects and aching arm that people were talking about. That was until the evening of March 15th 2021 when Mark had a headache and noticed blood in his urine. Melanie called 111 and they sent them to Worcester hospital. When the doctor examined Mark he noticed that Mark had a rash on his legs and admitted him straight away. Over the next day Mark’s headache got worse and, following some blood tests, it was revealed that Mark’s platelet count was at a very low rate of 14; normal levels would read between 150 and 450, so this in itself was alarming. On top of that results from a brain scan revealed a blood clot on Marks brain known as Cerebral Venous Sinus Thrombosis (CVST).
CVST is a type of rare blood clot that forms in the venous sinuses in your brain. This is a system of veins found between the layers of the dura mater – the tough outer layer of your brain that lies directly under your skull.
The clot can block the blood in your brain from draining out toward your heart. When this happens, blood cells may break from the pressure, cross the blood-brain barrier and seep into nearby brain tissue. This can cause a haemorrhage, a type of stroke that stems from internal bleeding. CVST can be life-threatening. You need immediate medical attention.
Very quickly the doctors informed Mark and Melanie that they thought it was a reaction to the vaccine. The next day, on March 17th 2021, Mark was getting worse and lost some of the use in his left leg and arm. Another scan was ordered and this revealed the clot was growing. Melanie realised how poorly Mark was. This was extremely distressing as due to the COVID-19 restrictions Melanie was unable to be on the ward with Mark. The nurses brought Mark into the corridor of the hospital in a wheelchair to see her. They told each other how much they loved each other and Mark told Melanie to tell their children how much he loved them. The nurses told Melanie they would get a side room ready for when Melanie came back in the evening so she could stay the night by Mark’s side.
That evening, before Melanie got back to the hospital, the hospital rang to say Mark had deteriorated and was now having seizures. He had also gone into cardiac arrest, and they made the decision to put Mark in an induced coma and on a ventilator. Melanie rushed to the hospital along with family members. They let her and their three children, Mark, Robert and Nicole wait in the corridor to say goodbye to Mark before they moved him to Birmingham Queen Elizabeth hospital. He was in an induced coma and they were told to expect the worst. On March 18th 2021, the hospital told the family that scans were showing Mark had a bleed on the brain and even if he survived there would likely be significant damage and not to expect Mark to walk out of the hospital. Mark’s family couldn’t just leave him and go home so they stayed in their cars outside the hospital all week, but still unable to see Mark due to the COVID-19 restrictions.
The hospital called the family in the afternoon and told them they couldn’t control the seizures and they wouldn’t stop so they needed to perform a thrombectomy to remove the clot. Melanie and the family were devastated and were desperate to see Mark. Melanie was told she could see him before they did the procedure but sadly when she got to the intensive care unit doors, despite Melanie crying and begging, the doctors wouldn’t let her in and she was just told to wait to hear from them.
Fortunately, the thrombectomy went well and Mark survived the procedure. He was then left to rest for a few days. After a few days the medical team couldn’t wake Mark successfully so on March 25th they put in a tracheostomy and on March 26th Mark finally woke. However it wasn’t until April 3rd, when they took the tracheostomy out, that Melanie and the family could finally talk to him on the phone. Mark had lost a lot of use of his left arm and leg, but over the coming days thankfully a lot of this returned. Mark was finally discharged from hospital on April 9th 2021, 26 days after being admitted. Against the odds, Mark proved the doctors wrong and walked out of the hospital, albeit loaded with several medications and a long road ahead.
Once home, Mark had to do a lot of therapy. He has now made a good recovery, considering what was expected. However his three fingers on his left hand are not really working and he still suffers with debilitating side effects. But both Mark and Melanie feel they are very lucky that he survived and thank the doctors and nurses for saving his life.
Even though when in hospital Mark was told that the AstraZeneca vaccine caused the CVST, it wasn’t until sometime after he left the hospital that they fully understood what the cause was. It was explained that Mark was diagnosed with Vaccine induced Thrombotic Thrombocytopenia (VITT).
VITT is diagnosed by having all five of the following:
- Onset of symptoms five to 30 days after vaccination against COVID-19.
- Presence of thrombosis (blood clots)
- Thrombocytopenia (platelet count under 150)
- D-Dimer level over 4000
- Positive anti-PF4 antibodies on ELISA
Mark had all of these, so his diagnosis was confirmed as VITT induced by the AstraZeneca vaccine. There are approximately 444 confirmed cases of VITT in the U.K. and sadly 81 deaths. However, this number is likely to be much higher as thousands of people who suffered blood clots were not given the relevant tests to detect VITT.
To this day, Mark’s PF4 antibodies are still testing positive, so he is still on the same blood-thinning tablets and blood pressure tablets as he came home from hospital with. He now has blood tests every four weeks. As VITT is a newly identified disease there are uncertainties around the decisions on stopping blood-thinning medications and it is still uncertain what it means when PF4 antibodies are still testing positive. Also, Mark’s latest scan revealed the blood on his brain has not dispersed and he still takes 3000mg of levetiracetam a day to prevent seizures, the same amount he came home from hospital with. The doctor has said with time this will be reduced but he will remain on them for the rest of his life.
Since being discharged from hospital Mark has had to go back in: his platelet levels dropped again and he needed an immunoglobulin infusion (IVIg), which made him feel so poorly he needed to go back yet again. It is now almost two years later but Mark still suffers and his life has been hugely affected. He remains extremely weak and tired; he suffers from debilitating fatigue and has daily headaches. Melanie lovingly explains he really doesn’t complain, saying he is marvellous and they know he is so lucky to be alive.
Following almost two years of living in a nightmare, Mark and Melanie are now trying desperately to return to as much normality as possible. They are self-employed and work together so have been impacted hugely, emotionally and financially. Mark is trying to do as much as he can possibly manage.
They applied to the Vaccine Damage Payment Scheme (VDPS) in April 2021. They really didn’t get much feedback for months. In June 2022, over a year later, they were told that Mark’s claim had been sent to the medical assessors. The medical assessors are the decisionmakers and assessed Mark’s claim solely on his medical notes that were requested early on; no personal assessment would be carried out and no up-to-date medical records would be requested, so the assessment is not based on any ongoing symptoms or any disabilities that have occurred as a result of VITT.
On December 23rd 2022, Melanie and Mark received an email saying a letter had been sent with the medical assessors’ decision. Melanie asked if the decision could be emailed and on December 29th 2022 that email arrived. It said that the medical assessors accepted causation – that the vaccine had caused Mark’s illness – but did not accept that Mark had reached the 60% disablement that is required to be eligible for an award. They only took into consideration Mark’s hand; they didn’t even mention all the medication he needs to prevent seizures, now or in the future, or take into account how Mark’s life has been impacted by fatigue and daily headaches.
So after two years of living in this nightmare, a future that has now been dramatically altered, no help will be offered by our Government – the same Government that spoke on TV daily throughout the COVID-19 pandemic and the months to follow, telling us all that we must have the vaccine to stop the spread and to save lives. The same Government that told us all that the vaccine was safe and effective. The same Government that prevented us from travelling if we weren’t fully vaccinated. And the same Government that told us we were selfish if we didn’t have the vaccine. Mark had done what was asked of him by our Government, and now Mark and Melanie will have to live with that decision and the consequences for the rest of their lives. Any help from our Government has now been rejected.
Mark and Melanie, who are members of VIBUK, will now be asking for a mandatory reconsideration and will be supplying further evidence which was not requested by the VDPS. If this fails then it will go to a tribunal. But one thing is for sure, none of us are giving up and VIBUK will continue to fight and campaign for a reform of the current VDPS which we all agree is unfit for purpose.
The latest VDPS figures show, as of January 10th 2023, there were 491 VDPS claims rejected and only 33 awarded – a success rate of just 6%. Thousands more are still waiting for their decisions, and with the percentage of claims being rejected so high it is expected that there will be many more disappointments in the coming weeks.
This is extremely upsetting for many who are injured, who can no longer live the lives they had pre-vaccine and also for the families of the bereaved. The financial impact is enormous and many claimants and families are desperate for financial help; the VDPS was a lifeline that has now, in more than 90% of cases to date, been taken away.
Many can no longer work due to the injuries caused by the vaccine and many families have been hugely impacted financially and emotionally by the loss of a loved one. Lots of these families have been told they are not eligible for a payment by our Government, some because the medical assessors believed on the balance of probability the vaccine was not the cause of the injuries or death and some because the assessors believed the claimant is not injured enough, that they do not reach the 60% threshold required to be eligible for an award. Some of those rejected on the 60% threshold but accepted on causation, such as Mark, have a range of shocking injuries that vary from brain damage, blindness, permanent seizures, loss of feeling in limbs, loss of mobility, neurological issues, debilitating fatigue and damage to internal organs including serious heart conditions, plus many more. But the medical assessors have based their decisions on their own opinions, ignoring the opinions of the specialist consultants such as neurologists and haematologists. Many of those rejected will now be appealing and asking for a mandatory reconsideration.
Claire Hibbs, who was injured by the AstraZeneca vaccine, is part of Vaccine Injured and Bereaved U.K. (VIBUK), a group of individuals injured or bereaved by the Covid vaccines (with medical or coroners’ reports confirming this) campaigning for a change to the current Government vaccine damage payment scheme (VDPS) to create a bespoke COVID-19 compensation scheme that ensures the adversely affected are appropriately compensated and supported. They also want people similarly affected by the vaccines to know that help is available and for their stories to be heard and not ignored. VIBUK can be found on Twitter and contacted here.
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Where are you Telegraph, Sun, Guardian et al?
They are the hollowed out corpses of insects, being controlled by parasites.
Wouldn’t be surprised if the Telegraph was told by its Gates-funded Global Heath Security Team not to report it!
Remind me, what was it Guy Fawkes did again?
This makes you so angry. Especially to be reminded about how hospital staff restricted visitors in that inhumane way. All based on “The Science” of course.
“caring” medical professionals my a**e. Utter scum the lot of them.
The $cience.
A salutary report, all the more so next to the post on Vitamin D supplements. We have been conned into taking unnecessary risks on the one hand, and with useful information being swept aside by the other.
Maybe Matt Hancock should call him to explain that he’s just suffering from conspiracy theories and that he should tread more carefully lest he’ll end up officially antisemited. It’s difficult to avoid getting very angry about something like this.
That said, Mark and Melanie are just two of very many people who went along with the story unthinkingly, ie, two more of the people who looked to the other side whenever the steamroller crushed somebody else in the name of the greater good. While I wish them all the best, one would hope that they’ve at least learnt something from this for the next time. And a next time will very likely come. Children in US schools are still being force-masked to cater to the paranoid delusions of their teachers.
They are victims of a governmental terrorist campaign. We shouldn’t judge or demonise those who fell for the propaganda, if we do , we’re no better than the scum who perpetrated the terrorism.
We are better than that. We have to be better than the perpetrators otherwise we will deter folk from joining us.
Those who let themselves be jabbed when it was clear that the virus posed a trivial threat to most people and that the gunks couldn’t possibly have been properly tested both f****d themselves and sided with the psychopathic tyrants.
They don’t have my sympathy.
Your comment says more about yourself than them.
Yep: it says I’m capable of reason.
But are totally lacking in compassion for a victim of war.
I understand this sentiment very well: While Mark and Melanie were having their family life at home (which certainly included meeting with whatever parts of their family weren’t still living there and very likely included illegally or semi-legally meeting with their friends), I spent the same time in complete social isolation and effectively barred from meeting my parents until 2022 (due to international travel restrictions). By the time the covax finally became available, it was also pretty clear that Sars-CoV2 must long since have become endemic on its own and that, strictly speaking, nobody needed a vaccine for that anymore. It was also no secret that generally healthy people, regardless of their age, weren’t much at risk from COVID and that there was essentially no risk for generally healthy people below 50. At the very latest, when things went from 15 million jabs to freedom! via We must first vaccinate more people! to We must keep vaccinating everyone 4 times per year! (and still no freedom in sight) everybody should have smelled a rat.
But that’s the important word here – should – the government, with full support of the general societal elites, TV celebrities, sports stars, famous actors and musicians etc went to enormous lengths to prevent just that from happening and dealt out swift punishments to everyone who didn’t toe the line ardently enough (somewhat less so in the UK than in many other countries) and expecting ordinary people who want nothing but to live their lives in peace and worry about their own problems to see through that and accept the cost of doing so is expecting too much from them.
To Mark and Melanie, conformism came at a high cost. Someone, hopefully themselves at least, might eventually learn something from that. But even if not, there’s a German proverb Der Fisch stinkt vom Kopfe her (barely translatable, roughly Dead fishes rot head first) — when the leaders go rogue, little can be expected from the man in the street.
I get how frustrating it is to read stories like that of the jab injured above but you will always get a certain % of the population that is naturally more sceptical and savvy as opposed to another % which are insanely and terminally gullible and are happy to let anyone in authority just tell them what to do and they’ll trustingly do it, no questions asked. One camp can rarely empathise with the other camp. They might be calling us ”anti-vaxxers” and ”tin-foil hat loonies”, and our side would be calling them ”sheep” and ”zombies”.
What I always try and remember ( when I feel like grabbing somebody and shaking some sense into them ) is that they are victims of both a very intense and sophisticated PsyOp + relentless fear campaign but also they are victims of medical misinformation, and I think it’s sad that somebody must pay for merely being naive for the rest of their lives just because they listened to the people who are meant to be experts.
You put that much better than I did, IMHO.
Well-said.
Absolutely agree Mogs. This is one of many utterly tragic stories out there which needs our sympathy, compassion and support, not smearing or denigration because they made choices based on govt lies, deceit and manipulation. All power to Claire Hibbs and VIBUK for their efforts in calling out the hypocrisy and seeking reparations for their members.
However one feels about the covid jab injured, we can all recognise that they are unwittingly doing us all a service now.
Their being abandoned by a government that basically forced them to get jabbed is going to make it much harder for the government to coerce people into taking jabs in the future.
The mainstream media may not be covering it, but people know. The word is getting around. Just look at the booster uptake.
Agreed. The Pfizer incident didn’t get reported, but it’s been seen all over the world.
That’s a step in the right direction but for as long as Hancock is free to claim that people getting injured by the covaxxes would be an (antisemitic) conspiracy theory, there’s still a long way to go.
I agree with you. It might sound hard-hearted but that is what this whole shit-show has made me (not hard-hearted in a myocarditis way thankfully).
If you took the vaccine, you are a collaborator, whatever your motivation, and I have no sympathy for you. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Compliance was collaboration.
So you’ve never made a mistake? Never made a poor decision? 77th?
I’m 77th?
You’re hilariously thick.
Getting jabbed isn’t like confusing Ossett with Ossettia.
It’s an example of suicidal stupidity.
So I’ll ask again, my poetic friend, have you never made a mistake? You people are the same as them people, just wearing your badge on a different lapel.
You’re as stupid as the jabbed.
Of course. Bless. Salute.
It won’t show up that way in statistical information. If you recall there has been mention for some time of people over fifty deciding that they have had enough of work and have opted for early retirement. The numbers simply don’t add up. And over the last two months there has been a dratsic rise in the number of people who are coming down sick, perhaps getting better for a week and then feeling lousy again. You have to be sensitive to these things.Like the Book of Common Prayer says, we have left undone those things we ought to have done. And we have done those things that we ought not to have done; And there is no health in us.
What do they pay out if you’re 100% disabled i.e. dead?
Whatever they take from your bereaved relatives in inheritance tax!
Aye, and that sort of sums it up. Next Tuesdays.
Indeed. Like the song says, declare the pennies on your eyes!
£120,000 …. but only IF your family can prove it was the jab wot dun it.
Stop looking to some big other who will take charge of the situation or be held to account. This is where the wasted energy lies. We are where we are and there isn’t going to be some miraculuous public enquiry that puts things to right. This situation is in a sense an entry point into something else. It is an affirmation that there are still people of spirit who can carry things forward. Without this time we would never really know this. Can you imagine if the air-conditioned nightmare carried on forever. We have learned to care about truly authentic people and without that we would’ve been lost anyway.
It was rough being a sceptic and refusing to cooperate with the insanity, but hearing stories like this make me even more sad and angry. This is a terrible story and I’ve known even worse. I hope they screw those scumbags for all the compensation they can get.
How typical of modern British politicians to poison the population, then refuse to help or even acknowledge the people they harmed.
It reminds me go the ‘Toxic Oil Syndrome’ incident in Spain in the early 1980s. Even now, we don’t really know what caused that, but the Spanish government and WHO did a nice little cover up.
In August 2021 the government clarified the position regarding claims for vaccine damage stating that those injured can still sue the manufacturer for harm suffered and the court can award whatever sum deemed necessary. The government has agreed to pick up the cost of any award from the manufacturer of the vaccine. What the injured need to organise is a group action to claim compensation.
Don’t be angry or depressed we were all at fault. We sat back as this system gained more and more control over us. Jefferson said tha the price of liberty is eternal vigilance lets face it we had nothing of the sort. We have taken a lot for granted and we have lived inauthentic consumer-driven lives for decades. As if that could really be an authentic existence. This is a call to arms and you shouldn’t be too hard on yourself if you were asleep.
I would love to be part of Gaylord Productions forever, the sense that we can just sit back and take the piss. This is my idea of heaven. But we don’t have this luxury. We are denying and hating so much but what are we actually affirming. I am happy to affirm furniture from the 1970s. Are we asking for things to go backwards or forwards or do we simply hate what is. I genuinely don’t know. We have a great connection but can it ever be more than a critique of the status quo. There is very little in the way of articulation of a vision for the future.
It isn’t just a matter of waking up several months late in terms of vaccines frankly if you were that blindsided for that long then you will probably be not much use in the horror to come.
You can only really comment on medicine and say things important if you really care about medicine, that is the healing of the sick. By what metric could a corporaation truly care about the healing of an individual? It really is that simple. The existence of humanity is fundamentally antithetical to the existence of the corporation. There is no doubt about this.
it is a heartbreaking situation for so many people.
where is your humanity, your much lauded compassion, bbc et al?
Sorry guys, but I CHOSE not to have it! I’ll die by nature in which ever it choses for me!
If jab commercials were honest:
May cause fever, chills, blood clots, stroke, heart attack, sudden death….and runny nose.
Ask your doctor if this jab is right for you.
pacemaker here (thanks Pfizer). but I won’t claim, how would it help more than constant protests, which I have never stopped partaking in, eh? Daft and silly.
How’s the best way to put this…
I’ve mentioned my condition when it’s perhaps appropriate, so again for someone who became paraplegic 30+ years ago after a road traffic accident and a permanent wheelchair user for the rest of my life, through no one’s fault but my own so found peace in that alone – thankful I hurt no one else, but I have subsequently, and ultimately received great care from the state.
Here though, are people who through no fault of their own, other than simply trusting their government’s recommendations, took their advice and intervention yet their resulting injury due to that intervention is barely even acknowledged let alone compensated?
Something is very wrong with this picture, an obvious injustice especially since there’s public sentiment for resolution. I can only pray things change for you, if nothing else I hope you find the peace you’re looking for and find compensation via some other avenue, what / where ever that might be.
Somehow, I feel like also argueing the other point:
Here are people who burnt an absurd amount of my (among others) money to fuel their germ delusions, who – at an enormous expense – got inoculated with a medical product whose only purpose ever was to provide its own pretext (It exists! Therefore, it must have been necessary!) and this medical product, while Guaranteed To Be Functionally Useless[tm] wasn’t as harmless as they convinced themselves it must be. I mean – Gene-engineeered by vegan climate-change experts! – what could possibly be wrong with that? Their own stupid ideas hurt them at every turn, yet, they persisted with following them through. Now, they come back and want yet more money to compensate them for the pain the voluntarily inflicted unto themselves.
WTF?
There have to be consequences? Is that what you’re saying? I guess that’s surely apparent for the injured. Keep in mind though, without all the censorship the message perhaps would’ve got through. With it so far-reaching it gave us the impression they wouldn’t listen but many just didn’t hear the warnings.
People make mistakes (the sentiment I was trying to convey). Mine was my own, these vaccine injured did nothing wrong really, or more accurately.. nothing with bad intentions, their only mistake was naivety, thinking the advise was good and took a big risk and are now left to pick up the pieces. All being said, I feel if we’re to abandon them too in spirit, where does that leave them? Alone essentially.
The suffering of the Covid Jab injured is beyond description. Unfortunately the media and political class is took busy talking about Meghan Markle to notice or care. So much evil runs through the system.
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The medical staff that enforced the separation of people have a lot to answer for as well. If that had happened to me, locked out from seeing someone who might be about to die in surgery, I probably would have had a Michael Douglas falling down type reaction.
Such a sad and avoidable story.
Horrific and only one of many stories. This needs to be known by the wider public especially the ones who think that ‘all drugs have side effects’ and that’s OK.
These individual stories are all awful, and tragic, but they don’t do themselves any service by referencing that they were ‘good’ citizens and followed the narrative. Even a cursory glance outside of the BBC and MSM showed that AZ was not safe (suspended beginning of Mar 21 in Norway, Denmark and Iceland). I appreciate this is too much for a lot of people but the BBC even had an article on this, and why these countries were wrong (all of them!)
Such a chasm has opened up over the past three years between me and people who ‘believed’ as it were, that I read this and think ‘what do you expect?’
Yes. And information from Israel that the Pfizer jab was implicated in increasing the risk of myocarditis was out there from mid – late February 2020. At that stage I hadn’t been “offered” a jab since I wasn’t in a high-risk category and I distinctly remember emailing the information and a link to my sons (early ’30s) with a warning.
One of the factors which led to me refusing the jabs was the indemnity given to the Pharmaceutical Companies so I researched the Government’s Vaccine Damage Compensation Scheme.
It was blindingly obvious that it was insufficient (max £120,000 for death or 60%+ disability) and you would have to prove that “it was the jab wot dun it.”
As a single woman, early 60s and from a family where we tend to live into our 90s, it was obvious that £120,000 wouldn’t be sufficient. Then, I wondered who would pursue a claim if I was severely disabled and who would look after me (my two young adult sons live at distance and have full-time jobs)?
I am profoundly sorry for Mark and his family, but the information about compensation was out there IF you took the time to check for it. And so was information about the risks of the jabs, although finding that did require you to ignore the MSM and do some digging.
I’m sorry, a tragic tale.
But should we be surprised that this has come to pass?
They, the Govt and their puppeteers have, lied, squandered, embezzled, brainwashed, intimidated, misrepresented, disregarded, demeaned, impoverished etc without consequence or care.
That they should ruthlessly dismiss real innocent, trusting people’s claims against their own abysmal governance and evil medical edicts is entirely predictable.
Truly tragic and enraging.
Too many people now see how the dots join up.
The scales of gullibility and ego-driven indifference are falling away for the eyes of those brave enough to see they were abused.
Soon there will be enough to make a difference and the media will be compelled to chose sides.
Just when I thought the evil disregard for us ‘useless eaters’ couldn’t get much worse… this tragic story shows it really can. See You’s