I’ll admit, I nearly spat out my coffee when I saw Brown Professor Emily Oster’s new headline in the Atlantic on Monday morning: “Let’s Declare a Pandemic Amnesty: We need to forgive one another for what we did and said when we were in the dark about Covid.”
It’s the headline we’ve been waiting to see – and, in the revisionist, gaslighting style that’s become the journalistic norm on the response to Covid – it’s about the closest thing to an outright admission of guilt that we’ve seen since Covid began.
The article is about as pathetically transparent as it is self-serving. Gee, I wonder what Oster did and said during Covid for which she might want amnesty…
Oh…
There’s a lot wrong here. First, no, you don’t get to advocate policies that do extraordinary harm to others, against their wishes, then say, “We didn’t know any better at the time!” Ignorance doesn’t work as an excuse when the policies involved abrogating your fellow citizens’ rights under an indefinite state of emergency, while censoring and cancelling those who weren’t as ignorant. The inevitable result would be a society in which ignorance and obedience to the opinion of the mob would be the only safe position.
Second, “amnesty”, being an act of forgiveness for past offences, first requires an apology or act of repentance on the part of those who committed the offence. Not only has no such act of repentance been forthcoming, but in most cases, establishment voices like Oster’s have yet to stop advocating these same policies, much less admit they were wrong. With no accompanying act of contrition, these calls for “amnesty” in light of rapidly-shifting public opinion have a real ring of fascist leaders calling for “amnesty” after losing the War.
Third, there’s some question as to whether Oster herself really did know better at the time. Like many other mainstream Covid voices, Oster had long been closely attuned to Covid data showing that these mandates did not work, yet she often seemed reluctant to share that data insofar as it contradicted the mainstream orthodoxy that mandates were necessary. In that sense, the policy prescriptions of Oster and those like her may have had less to do with ignorance than with cowardice, tribalism and “following orders”, which can’t be considered acting “in good faith”.
And that leads to the ultimate problem, from a legal perspective, with Oster’s call for “amnesty” for the advocacy of totalitarian policies during Covid: the implicit assumption that all those who advocated lockdowns, mandates, censorship and an indefinite state of emergency, all the way up the chain of command, did so in good faith. If those who advocated these policies are simply presumed to have done so out of well-meaning ignorance, then any inquiry into the many outstanding questions as to the origin of these policies – and the underlying motivations of highest-level officials who promulgated them – is foreclosed.
The implicit assumption is that, owing to their socioeconomic status, the superficial cutesiness of public health, and the panic surrounding the pandemic, all those who advocated these mandates must have done so in good faith. But this argument presupposes that the ‘pandemic’ was a natural phenomenon, like a tsunami, which would have inevitably led to panic. On the contrary, studies have long shown that it was the mandates themselves that caused the public to panic, making them believe their chances of dying of Covid – which never had an overall infection fatality rate much higher than 0.2% – were hundreds of times greater than they really were. Further, there’s a growing mountain of evidence that the handful of key officials who led the initial push for unprecedented lockdowns and mandates did not, in fact, do so in good faith.
Our institutions are in serious need of restoration after the incalculable damage that’s been done to them during the response to Covid. But we forget, at our peril, that those institutions weren’t built with flowery words and good intentions. They were built with blood, sweat and tears, by those who fought for them with their lives. Let’s not declare a pandemic amnesty. Let’s declare a real pandemic inquiry.
Michael P. Senger is an attorney and author of Snake Oil: How Xi Jinping Shut Down the World. This post first appeared on his Substack page, which you can subscribe to here.
Stop Press: Eugyppius has also written a response to Oster’s piece.
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What I personally need is for erstwhile pro lockdown proponents to look me in the eye and state solemnly and sincerely how sorry they are, how they are ashamed at the extent to which totalitarian tendencies surfaced and how they have learned such that they won’t ever do it again.
The reality is though, I’m never going to get it and winning is never going to look like that.
Make no mistake, this is winning the argument. This is what it looks like.
Authority never apologises, even for the mass slaughter of WW1. Even the memorials to it talk of worthy sacrifice, whilst the ruling class sniggers that building a few memorials spared them accountability. In a just world the ppl responsible should have been jailed and all wealth confiscated such was the crime against the nation committed.
This is a huge dilemma for me.
On the one hand I have enormous, seething anger towards people like this lady and the terrible harm they’ve done over the last 3 years. Their advocacy of atrocities in their soft, reasonable sounding tones made me physically sick.
On the other hand, if these people aren’t given a ladder to climb down, will they just not entrench themselves in their position and never admit they were wrong because the moment they give an inch, we clobber them with a response like the one in this article. The incentive to climb down is not very big.
That leaves us with a third option, which is a full, public mea culpa, throwing themselves at our feet asking for our forgiveness. But that is exactly what the lefties demand every time someone transgresses their ideological lines. They expect a full on maoist style public self criticism and apology. I hate that crap with every fibre in my body, not least because most of the time it is completely insincere and done purely for self preservation.
The problem with these society wrenching episodes is that they leave too many wounds that are almost impossible to heal.
My inclination is to simply ignore these people. They should have been ignored the first time around and they should be ignored now. Who is this stupid cow anyway and why should anyone care what she thought before or thinks now?
Get back into the hole where you crawled out of and stay out of my life, is the best response I can come up with right now.
‘… On the other hand, if these people aren’t given a ladder to climb down, ‘
Let them down at the end of a rope. That will save your dilemma.
They and all of it makes me physically sick too. I would like some due process public accountability but I know whilst I want that, those responsible will continue to doubke down.
Her slime ball article is putting their toe in the water to see if it is safe. No it is not safe!!! Because I will not forget or forgive what you did to others and myself ! Ever.
“On the other hand, if these people aren’t given a ladder to climb down”
The ladder is there. “I/we made a mistake, let’s make sure it can’t happen again”. I’m not interested in fake apologies.
You make very good points, but I don’t think we can simply move on. Anyway, this is not over by any stretch of the imagination. There are still covid restrictions or the threat of them in many places, people still think covid was a deadly plague of unprecedented danger, and we are still “vaccinating” people with a fraudulent, untested medical treatment.
Fair points Stewart but allowing these people to crawl back whence they came means they can reverse ferret in the future if and when it suits.
Most Covid alarmists, I believe, deep down and and with hindsight, now understand that what occurred in 2020 was an episode of Mass Hysteria.
Unfortunately those that succumbed to the hysteria, the doctors, scientists, politicians and media are now excruciatingly embarrassed that this occurred and that they allowed themselves to be so easily fooled and so easily enabled full vent to their inner Nazi against those that were sceptical.
As such, I’ve always said that they only have 2 options, 1: Hold up their hands and admit the truth or 2: Double down in an attempt to reinforce their belief that that were correct all along and that they actually, in reality, ‘saved’ us all.
Option one is NOT an option unfortunately though as their credibility, ‘expertise’ and reputations would be totally destroyed by that admission and that’s why we are now seeing the option they have left, option 2.
Add the compelling evidence that this virus may never have actually existed, except in the mind, and hell will freeze over before they ever admit even the slightest wrongdoing.
The only way out and only way forward is to be magnanimous and give the majority of them a ‘get out of jail free card’ and that’s by making them understand that they were not responsible for their actions because they were, themselves, infected with a mind virus that distorted their thinking.
That, though, would leave a bitter taste in the mouths of the skeptics who were so unfairly treated and abused throughout this whole sorry episode but hopefully knowing they were right all along would be victory enough.
Having said that I still do believe that there were a handful who were criminally negligent and they should be made to pay and serve as an example to the others who were ‘only following orders’.
I hear what you are saying but there are the likes of that Piers Morgan fellow, who took a perverse delight in the prolonged discrimination of the unjabbed.
There are also the other perpetrators- Hancock, Witless, Unbalanced and co, to name a few.
You are obviously a better person than I am because I can’t forgive and / or forget what that scummy, self-serving lot did.
I did feel a tinge of pleasure that Midazolam Matt has been suspended from the Conservatives this morning.
Piers Morgan has walked his comments back, without properly walking them back. He now agrees the data has changed and lockdown and vaccines should be questioned, but without addressing the fact he was calling for mandatory vaccination e.g. the violation of bodily sanctity and that what he is now saying implies he was previously being “criminally” irresponsible (“criminally” in an emotional non-technical sense – where, I mean if he were actually in a position to force actions on his staff, it is clear he would have willingly violated the Nuremberg code).
But he wasn’t suspended for his criminal behaviour during the Covid hysteria. It was because he’s debasing himself on TV.
I know it was due to him being unable to fulfil his parliamentary and constituency duties in a dignified manner but I’m happy to see him and suchlike experience any censure.
A wonderful admission of weakness by Prof. Oster. Time to exploit that weakness to the full.
How long before the guilty start breaking ranks, and pointing fingers to buy their own way out of the mess they are in?
All to late to undo the damage of course, but it will be wonderful to behold.
The breaking of ranks of wrongdoers due to their self-interest eventually brings down evil. It is contrasted with the sustainable bonds of those that truly seek the welfare of others.
If someone commits a crime against you, do you seek an amnesty? No, you seek justice. The evidence is overwhelming that the plandemic was the largest crime against humanity in history. From the origin of the “virus”, the brainwashing, fear-mongering, lies, falsification of data, suppression of known therapeutics, destruction of lives and livelihoods, the killing and maming from the vaccines, to the persecution of the non-compliant, what we have seen is an orgy of evil rivalling the excesses of 1930s Germany. As the Scriptures say, acquitting the guilty and condemning the innocent are both abhorrent to God. I would ignore this woman. She’s learned nothjng and has nothing of value to add to the debate
I largely agree except – “I would ignore this woman.”
On the contrary, let’s keep her front and centre and encourage others keen to save their skins to do the “brave” thing. We want as many begging for forgiveness as possible. And then we can really turn the heat on.
Of course The Guilty want the innocent people they demonised to forgive them and forget the tyranny they imposed on everyone, or enthusiastically encouraged.
I for one will never forget and never forgive. I want justice.
It’s more cynical than that. In exchange for you forgiving her, she will forgive you : ‘… forgive one another…’ What have her victims done wrong?
Eugyppius’ response is priceless, and not much more can be said, other than this is an insight into the degree of acumen and perspicacity needed to add the prenomial “Professor” to one’s name in our enlightened times.
The cat’s is even better, imho.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/emily-osters-no-good-really-bad-terrible
Yes, my thought too – the cat has surely got it bang on here, and expressed himself eloquently as usual.
Igor Chudov also very good;
https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/the-atlantic-is-asking-for-pandemic?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=441185&post_id=81732449&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
Unreadable without capital letters and insulting to the readership.
Thanks very much for the link. A great commentary
I mean, where to start? I too read Eugyppius’ piece yesterday and actually verbalised a ‘f**king right’ to his response. I then watched as the comments rolled in, some heartbreakingly, agonisingly painful as people revealed lost loved ones and damaged lives, broken families, lost friends, destroyed careers and other societal horrors as a result of this ‘little mistake’. That’s aside from the outright hostility and vitriol towards a group of people making what used to be a justifiable action regarding something as ostensibly straightforward as a medical choice. Amnesty for that? She’s kidding, right? (See also el gato malo’s piece and Naomi Wolf’s lost small town, both SubStack.)
Excellent article, disgusting woman. No forgiveness or selective amnesia from this quarter.
To be fair, from what I’ve read, she was a very long way with being up with the worst of them. Just another middle class moral coward with a laptop.
The problem (the plan) was always the sheer numbers of people that were complicit – complicit of malevolence, complicit of ignorance, complicit of cowardice. When you have the entire globe singing from the same hymn sheet, bar a dogged few who refused to be kowtowed, then the legal and moral crimes will remain unowned for many, many years. Decades, maybe centuries. The simplest way to hide wrongdoing is to make sure everyone has blame, that way no single person has to admit guilt. At some point though, people will reflect on this period as the biggest mass, global crime against humanity in history. I just don’t think it’ll be in my lifetime. But while I am alive I’ll make damn sure that those I have the misfortune of living amongst face their personal demons.
Never forget. Never forgive.
Understandable and true but;
This woman and the herd of others like her are victims too. We are angry and frustrated at these people because they are still locked into their views no matter what the shift is. They are simply victims of the biggest most effective mind control apparatus in human history which is still active and which has gone into cover your ass mode.
We all know the evidence is undeniable, and the post mortem (long stringy blood clots and all) is very difficult for egocentric manipulated NYT/Guardian robots to accept. So the psyop is giving them an out that causes the least cognitive dissonance and it’s our job to harass them at every opportunity. And they will get very angry back 9 times out of 10 for us pointing the reality out to them.
This will be their defence, this is the defence the prop network is giving them.
Its our job to make them uncomfortable with the fact that they know that we know they know we were right from the start.
So what does that say about their sources of information?
And ahem….the ‘vaccines’? Hello booster?
I don’t know it’s a shit job but that’s what we are here for.
So what does that say about their sources of information?
Exactly.
I am an Arts graduate. My formal science qualifications amount to Grade C O’Level Maths and Grade C O’Level Chemistry. The hard science with graphs and charts and percentages and all the rest are of no interest to me, they actually bore me so even on here I skip that stuff.
But – I found my way here over two years ago. Six weeks after this crap started I was telling everyone this was a scam. I have never believed differently.
The point is, a lowly Arts graduate did enough digging to establish the truth. Many people would have had access to better resources than me and particularly the likes of Prof. Oster. She has no excuses. Forgiveness, amnesty? No firkin way.
Sadly, I tend to agree with FL, I doubt we will see justice in our lifetimes but we must never forget what has been done to us and is still being done. We are still in a War.
So…Never Forget. Never Forgive.
I get it, of course. I am really quite angry and want nothing more than to hear “Wow you were right about all this, I was duped, I’m going to really question my sources of information and question governments now.”
Yeah it will be a rare reaction. But trying to be Christian about this could help reduce our anger at these people who have likely ruined their immune system, brought cancers and or heart disease upon themselves far earlier than otherwise. So maybe some pity for them is also helpful for our own stress levels as well as our own health and souls.
I mean these people are constantly ill now, or exhausted, have you noticed? Not to mention the deaths ffs. They are literally dropping all over the place or simply not waking up in the morning.
A large part of the problem is that they, and their acolytes, are likely to have lost their reputation in the minds of intelligent people. Thus the quality of normal services will decline even more than it has over the last few years. Looking on the bright side, it is possible that some professions might realise that it’s not a good idea to stay in the same club. Perhaps there could be an internal break up in some organisations, at least to restore their position.
These miscreants must no longer occupy positions of authority and power merely by saying sorry. And there must be no net gain from their actions.
What I want is an immediate apology for the use of Nudge Units; the abolition of the Nudge Units and the liquidation of the global businesses created from it. There needs to be a serious investigation into the psychological damage resulting from their work, substantial compensation payments where necessary, and arrests made.
Additionally, television programmes need to be made using cult deprogramming techniques to try to undo the damage the fear porn of the last few years has caused. After all, the UK Nudge Unit is now working with Sky, among others to create climate fear porn.
Scientists and academics who revealed their callousness and sociopathy by advocating and assisting in the crime of the lockdowns need gaol time, as do the politicians. This is Nuremberg level stuff.
The arse-covering is promising: it’s a sign that soon people who forced lockdowns, distancing and vaccine mandates will try to blame each other and deny their involvement. Until the crimes of lockdowns, masking and vaccine mandates are utterly repudiated by governments, the Sword of Damocles remains hanging over the head of every one of us.
And f*** amnesty: you don’t get to shoot me with an Uzi, then say you’re sorry and offer me an Elastoplast!
Nice analogy re Band Aid
There are many fine comments on this piece and that goes for the forgiving ones and particularly for the ones calling for real justice. I wrote to my MP with a long email in the first 3 days of the debacle in late March 2020 and laid out everything as to why Ferguson’s modelling was bogus, there would be manageable ‘tinder’ deaths and the IFR (0.19%) would be no higher than many Winter Flu years going back to 1960s and also as recent as 2015. My wife goes around telling everyone I was right but I take no pride in that as these political pygmies have been permitted to carry out these financial and so called health atrocities and now want to let it pass and not mention their culpabilities.
My particular target is Neil O’Brien MP who set up a specific website to denigrate Daily Sceptic and to call Dr Sunetra Gupta, the eminent epidermiologist, a Covid denier. He should be prosecuted for the harm he engendered directly and indirectly and many other prominent politicians and scientists should follow.
Ron DiSantis of Florida and Kristi Noem of South Dakota are two US Governors who should be applauded and should be running for the next US Presidency as Potus and VP..
The ‘good faith’ possibility and argument died first with the immediate censorship of dissenters and then most evidently when they refused to address major issues and did not change course but doubled down on their manipulations, coercions and discriminations instead.
A good example is the PCR test/testing.
Everyone knew by June 2020 about its major flaws. Instead of addressing them, they did nothing and later even abused it further, by using a lower CT for the vaxxed only. They are STILL not standardised.
In a nutshell, the only person who can be deemed to have acted in good faith is Ron DeSantis.
And he also apologized, repented, changed sides and became a leader of the good guys and causes after realising his mistake and changing course.
Sen. Ron DeSantis – a titan amongst pygmies. Not forhetting Senators Rand Paul and RF Kennedy jnr.
Where are our titans in power apart from Chris Chope?
Amnesty? Amnesty?
No bloody way. The absolute minimum MUST be court and then justice. We might need a sliding scale to allow us to determine the levels of retribution.
Never forget. Never forgive.
Restoration of the death penalty and public executions need to be on the board. I won’t rest happy until every MP and Lord who voted in favour of restrictions is on trial for his life. As it stands, anyone who voted for any of the measures that took place should be banned from public office for life. And any police officer who made a lockdown-related arrest or was involved in suppression of freedom protests should be sacked without pension benefits and arrested.
No mercy for what they’ve done to us. And new governments need to go after the investment banks. BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street need to be broken up and their board members investigated. Soros’ empire needs breaking up. Then the UN and its related organisations need to go the way of the League of Nations. The utopian UN is at the centre of all the planet’s problems: a deranged, ideological redistributive organisation incapable of seeing human beings as individuals, rather as sheep to be herded. Any organisation that gets too big loses sight of actual humans.
Billionaire Rishi and China-linked Jeremy might be telling us we have to suffer to repair the damage of the last two and a half years, but they’re the ones who caused the disaster. They should be the ones suffering.
Your last paragraph – yes, this makes me furious. Our lives are changed forever due to the imposition of government restrictions and now we’ve got to pay for it as well. It’s like charging a prisoner bed and board.
They don’t know the meaning of the world “suffering”
Just wait until our Public Inquiry finally reports. “No individual blame, systemic problems, lessons will be learnt”.
She either has no idea who she’s dealing, and she’s in for a rude awakening, or she has every idea and she’s running scared. Either way it’s a spectacular admission of guilt, and either a sign of weakness or arrogant stupidity.
Anyway, lots of people are still “in the dark about covid”. There are still covid restrictions in many places, the threat of bringing them back in others, and the mass “vaccination” with a “vaccine” that is nothing of the sort and neither safe nor effective is still going strong.
UCAS is still mandating the covid toxin injection for anyone enrolling on a health or social care course. Jab mandates, apparently not mandated are in reality being implemented.
Too late to edit. This is information from #Together re UCAS
Discriminatory unethical & wrong
@ucas_online insisting on covid jab for care students & nursing is damaging & must stop @alanvibe tells @Nigel_Farage @GBNEWS
40000+ care workers lost & Unis doing this? Unacceptable & needs ending now @GillianKeegan @educationgovuk
https://twitter.com/togetherdec/status/1587174383147257858?s=46&t=55KXwvnhoMBfblUu1wRXfA
Indeed this is no time to forgive, forget or move on.
As Tucker Carlson says these ppl are throwbacks to Pol Pot with a sing songy voice. Cut them no slack.
We all know that the highest risk for dying of Covid was Obesity but does anyone else know what was the second?
Common sense would suggest that it would be a chronic respiratory illness such as Asthma or emphysema but the actual second highest risk was……. Anxiety!
That came out of a sample of 540,000 hospitalised people, studied by the CDC in 2020, so the conclusion is very strong.
But why would an essentially mental condition give someone a whopping 28% more chance of dying from an airborne respiratory illness? It’s bizarre and makes no sense.
Obviously this finding was ignored and airbrushed away with mutterings and wild guesses by the medical profession that it had something to do with the interactions with medications these people were taking.
The explanation though uncovers one of the darkest secrets of Covid that the medical profession wants locked away forever.
That’s because this finding actually indicates that the doctors were aggressively ventilating people with ordinary panic attacks in the mistaken belief that they were ‘curing’ them of Covid.
It makes sense when we understand that in early 2020 there was outright panic and hysteria over this ‘new’ unknown virus with the Doctors, by far, the worst affected.
People were coming to the hospital, panic stricken that a PCR test had confirmed they had a lethal virus in them and those with anxiety would almost certainly have had panic attacks. The main symptom of a panic attack is hyperventilation which to a hysterical doctor could easily be misdiagnosed as the main symptom, that ordinarily would warrant aggressive ventilation, and that is Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome or ARDS.
The most dangerous symptom medical Mass Hysteria is Confirmation Bias and it was this that was influencing the doctors in their (mis)diagnosis of severe Covid instead of, in reality, anxiety induced hyperventilation.
As there’s evidence that severe panic attacks can actually REDUCE the pulse oximetry reading of a patient to very low levels this was, I believe, taken as ‘proof’ that these people were about to experience the ‘cytokine storm’ (remember that?) and needed to be ventilated. Unfortunately the mortality rate of ventilation was getting up to 90% in some US hospitals, proof that the ‘cure’ was far worse than the illness.
If this hypothesis is correct then it seems they may well have got away with mass manslaughter, without anyone knowing, before they finally came to their senses.
It ought to be understood that inappropriate breathing is a quite common cause of anxiety/stress for many of us. There are publications by established places that seem to understand this, e.g. this hospital one: https://www.gloshospitals.nhs.uk/media/documents/Managing_overbreathing_Hyperventilation_dysfunctional_breathing_GHPI0245_02_17.pdf The paper talks about it being a reaction to stress, but I suspect that it is often the other way round, if we over react to things that end up screwing up our breath etc.
That said, in the early days there was a degree of opportunism by certain manufacturers to create equipment that would actually cause over breathing by certain patients suspected of being infected by the novel virus.
‘We all know that the highest risk for dying of Covid was Obesity..’
Do we? Age at death was 82, 95% with one or more comorbidity – the top four being: dementia, diabetes, chronic renal disease, chronic cardio-vascular disease.
There is no data that obesity is a primary cause of death from CoVid, not least there is no objective definition of it and it is yet another invented disease (without symptoms) like pre-diabetes, Attention Deficit Disorder, in the drive to medicalise us and help the pharma industry to make money selling ‘treatments’ which never quite cure anyone because curing the patient is bad for repeat business.
Overweight does not mean immune dysfunction, but some overweight people are generally unhealthy leading poor lifestyles.
I don’t believe Obesity was the number one cause of dying from Covid because I don’t believe that Covid exists.
This once again comes down to human psychology and that obesity is seen as a weakness and a lack of self control. As such they’re the first in the firing line when the medical profession goes insane (as they did in 2020) and prime candidates to be ventilated because no one much cares what happens to these people as they ‘brought it on themselves’ for not looking after themselves.
That’s the brutal mundane reason, I believe, so many obese people died during this madness.
Well you have not convinced me. Again.
Guilty conscience? Fear of being held to account?
Explicit in admitting a need to apologise is admission of wrong doing.
Forgive one another? Demanding her victims need to apologise to her is cynical, and reveals her as a coward and lacking any morality.
Absolutely. What on earth have we who have said ‘no’ all along got to apologise for? The hard faced cow.
By their fruits you will know them.
Amnesty is usually something that happens at the end of a war. We’re still in the middle of one.
…absolutely…still handing out masks at my doctors surgery, apparently…still ‘talking up’ the next scariant…..still jabbing kids…and pregnant women…still obfuscating and hiding data….still using Remdesivir….still stopping the use of early treatment steroids/Ivermectim/HCQ…..still going ahead with the WHO pandemic treaty?
Still mandating gene therapy…..it wouldn’t take much to get the whole ball rolling again….
It isn’t over by a long way….
4 more eloquent rebuttals of Osterism. https://brownstone.org/articles/osterism-wont-prevent-the-next-lockdown/
https://rudolphrigger.substack.com/p/an-amnesty-how-about-an-apology-first
https://2ndsmartestguyintheworld.substack.com/p/emily-oster-proposes-a-pandemic-amnesty
https://brownstone.org/articles/short-time-ago-never-happened/
This one is short, furious, vicious and breathtakingly foulmouthed, but points out that they ‘didn’t know’ because from the outset they knowingly and deliberately silenced all those who did, and are still doing so. https://rumble.com/v1qt4lq-lefty-jab-addicts-want-covid-amnesty-for-their-crimes-against-humanity.html
If the lady means to express that she acted like a headless chicken with hair-trigger revolver cannon just because she is always so terribly afraid of everything that’s unknown to her and so unwilling to believe anything people who know better try to tell her about it, the solution for that is certainly not forgiveness, as she’ll otherwise stage the same act again once her apparently quite feeble mind is again overwhelmed by senseless panic.
It may not be appropriate to prosecute her for failing on a task that was clearly beyond her abilities. But certainly the people who put her into this position and she must never be allowed to do this again.
No amnesty should even be considered until she’s eaten kangaroo testicles on Unreality Television.
‘On the contrary, studies have long shown that it was the mandates themselves that caused the public to panic, making them believe their chances of dying of Covid – which never had an overall infection fatality rate much higher than 0.2%’
The latest case-fatality-rate estimate from prof Ioannidis for fit and well people aged under 65 is 0.01%.
For fit-and-well under-18s, it is 0.0002% – 2 in a million, same as the child death-rate for measles before vaccination was made mandatory.
‘On the contrary, studies have long shown that it was the mandates themselves that caused the public to panic, making them believe their chances of dying of Covid – which never had an overall infection fatality rate much higher than 0.2%’
Don Vito Corleone: ‘Santino, what you think?’
Santino Corleone: ‘Lot o’ money in these jabs, Pop.’
Don Vito Corleone:’Tom?’
Tom Hagen (family lawyer): ‘Well, I say, Yes. If we don’t get a piece of this vaccine action, our enemies buy more police and political power, then they come after us. We risk everything we have.’
Don Vito Corleone: ‘What about this CDC meeting in ’99 with minutes showing discussion of a 10-times increase in autism among jabbed children?’
Tom Hagen: ‘They hushed it up, Godfather. If it gets out, we can kill it. We have TV and newspaper people on the payroll.’
Amnesty? Nah, I don’t think so. If you gloss over the cracks, you can’t find solutions to the root causes. I like my accountability and retribution served cold.
The point really is that there was information and data available much of the time the destruction of personal liberty was happening, which proved these actions were not justified. Those in control and in the media were so drunk on the power they had obtained from the fear they had generated about Covid that they could not resist continuing their removal of the freedoms that should be protected by every democratic government. There should be no amnesty for that without some contribution to cover the deaths and removal of personal freedoms their deliberate actions caused.
Now we are suffering the same actions by the same people about the human effect of climate change, even though there is now proper data rather than cobbled together inaccurate models to tell us the truth that human impact does not have much impact compared to the forces of nature.
More rebuttals. This one has an interesting angle reg. women, abortion, SAHMs being the political reason for Osteeism and some links to other rebuttals. https://emilyburns.substack.com/p/with-whom-does-emily-oster-want-an
My favourite response sofar.