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The Government Thought Publishing the Raw Vaccine Data Was a Good Idea – Until it Wasn’t

by Amanuensis
13 October 2022 10:00 AM

We’re now approaching the tail-end of 2022 and the Government appears to have much on its plate, including the financial echoes of the 2008 banking crisis, the consequences of shutting the country’s economy for two years, the impact of the conflict in Eastern Europe, sabre-rattling by the USA (both in Europe and Asia), the NHS falling apart, political infighting and having to deal with a new monarch. The Government certainly appears to be too busy to have to bother with Covid anymore and would probably prefer it if it went  away – the Covid infection reports that were once published every Thursday are published sporadically, the once daily infection reports have been relegated to a weekly update and the endless TV appearances by a succession of politicians to proclaim on Covid has slowed to a trickle.

Alas, Covid doesn’t care about the Government’s preoccupations and we find ourselves yet again at the start of a Covid wave, with increasing numbers infected and surely non-trivial numbers of hospitalisations to come.

Given that the Government seems to want Covid to go away, perhaps now is a good time to review the history and performance of the Vaccine Surveillance Report produced by UKHSA, the Government’s main infectious disease monitoring agency, and arguably originally intended to declare the pandemic finished 18 months ago.

The first Vaccine Surveillance Report was issued on May 13th 2021, from what was then Public Health England – the name change to the Orwellian-sounding Health Security Agency was yet to come. Way back then the vaccine appeared to have had a positive impact on cases, hospitalisations and deaths – we’d suffered a brutal winter wave of the Kent variant (later renamed Alpha variant, because the World Health Organisation didn’t want to blame the gentle folk of Kent for the emergence of the disease), but as vaccination had progressed to ever higher proportions of the population Covid had seemingly gone away. Some might think that the Vaccine Surveillance Report was produced as an exercise in self-congratulation, promulgating the success of the vaccines at eliminating a plague that had caused immense harm to the countries and populations of the world (mainly as a result of the various non-pharmaceutical interventions that nearly all Western Governments seemed very keen to implement). 

That week of May 13th 2021 marked the last time that the U.K. saw new Covid infections below 2,000 a day and Covid deaths in single figures.

Unfortunately, the low in Covid ‘cases’ was short lived – after that first Vaccine Surveillance Report cases started to rise again, slowly at first but by the end of summer 2021 our Government was responding with an increased urgency,  first imploring individuals to get vaccinated to build herd immunity, then to protect granny and eventually, when it was clear that the vaccines were not offering any meaningful protection from infection/transmission, to protect the NHS.

Seventeen months after that first Vaccine Surveillance Report from Public Health England we’re in a very different position. Recent Covid infectious waves have exceeded 4 million concurrently infected individuals for the U.K., an infection rate of approximately one in every 16 individuals, and it is likely that we’ll see many more infections again this autumn. Note a couple of aspects to the infection ratio that is sometimes missed:

  • Infection rates aren’t the same across the population, and in particular for different age groups. Typically, infection rates in the very old are lower than for young adults and the middle aged – this implies that infection rates in those aged 20-60 will be higher than the rate that applies for the whole population.
  • This is a snapshot at one point in time – during the peak of each Covid wave there will be people infected in the early part of the wave that have recovered, and there will likely be as many people again that will be infected before that wave dissipates. I estimate that between the start of June and the end of July this year we saw around 20% of the population infected; I’m sure that this autumn will see similar numbers infected, if not more.

Of course, the rate of hospitalisation and death have fallen to relatively low levels with the arrival of Omicron variant, but it is important to note that the risk of any particular pathogen is the combination of infectiousness and the seriousness of infection – while each individual infection with Omicron variant is far less likely to cause serious disease than earlier variants, the huge infection rates and short interval between infectious waves that we’ve seen so far this year have nevertheless resulted in hospitalisation rates higher than seen last year other than in the January 2021 Alpha variant wave, and death rates comparable with those seen last summer. Sure, we’re hearing lots of reassuring voices saying that these are ‘with not of’ hospitalisations and deaths, but I note that 12 months ago we were still in the age of ‘enthusiastic’ medics attributing many unrelated hospitalisations and deaths to Covid simply because of a recent positive test, rather than the ‘with not of’ hospitalisations being insignificant at that time.

The first UKHSA vaccine surveillance report really only covered three topics: 

  • A presentation of official estimates of the effectiveness of the Covid vaccines at preventing symptomatic infection, hospitalisation and death. In these early days the vaccines were all thought to be magnificent at preventing Covid infection, which is probably why the Vaccine Surveillance Report existed in the first place.
  • Graphs showing the progress of vaccination in the U.K. By May 2021 second doses had only just started to be given, but vaccination rates of the first dose were fairly high (over 80%) in those aged over 50 and rates for those aged 40-50 were catching up. However, only 10% of those aged under 40 had been given a dose of vaccine therefore there was a need to use various official publications to encourage vaccination; the attention of the Government’s various ‘nudge units’ were about to be felt by our population.
  • An estimate of the number of hospitalisations and deaths saved by the vaccines. These graphs show the dual magnificence of the vaccines in their ability to reduce hospitalisations and deaths whilst at the same time reducing our spring 2021 Covid outbreak to near zero. 

The odd thing about this first Vaccine Surveillance Report is that it contained very little in the way of surveillance of the impact of the vaccine – it was clearly little more than a marketing exercise to promote the vaccines. We would get some actual surveillance data later in the year, in the form of tables of Covid infections, hospitalisations and deaths by vaccination status – I suspect that these were incorporated into the Vaccine Surveillance Report because various authority figures believed that the data would support the Government’s position, that is, that the data would have showed the vaccinated to have significant protection from Covid compared with the unvaccinated.

However, as the months went by these real-world data first showed that the protective effect of the vaccines had been removed and, after a few months more, showed much higher Covid infection rates in the vaccinated. Of course, the UKHSA added a section imploring the reader to not even attempt to consider these data at face value, and instead consider only Government-sanctioned official estimates of vaccine effectiveness (which continued to show that the vaccines offered protection from infection). I suppose we must be thankful that someone in the UKHSA had a sense of moral duty, and these data on the real-world impact of the vaccines on infections remained in the Vaccine Surveillance Report until spring 2022, when the ending of free Covid testing finally provided the UKHSA with the excuse for ceasing to offer these data. While the UKHSA sort-of had a point in that there were less data available, it could have continued with infection data from those that continued to regularly test for Covid (primarily healthcare workers), and hospitalisation and mortality data by vaccination status has continued to be gathered – but the UKHSA had decided to end the release of these data and that was that.

The Vaccine Surveillance Reports have, over the weeks and months, given us a wealth of information on how the vaccines have been performing, both in terms of the overt data that they present, but more in terms of the message that the Government wished to push on the population. I’ll go through the various aspects of these data over the next few weeks, starting with perhaps the most important aspect of the vaccines – their effectiveness.

Amanuensis is an ex-academic and senior Government scientist. He blogs at Bartram’s Folly.

Tags: COVID-19PHEPropagandaUKHSAVaccineVaccine efficacy

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JohnK
JohnK
2 years ago

A good article, but I beg to differ about your proposed sequence of various aspects in future editions. An aspect that has been avoided as much as possible is the risk of injuries actually caused by it, compared with any alleged benefit. This issue has made the headlines elsewhere recently, e.g. on GBN which has been doggedly reporting on it.

No shortage of output from other sources, even on YT, to do with varying policies in other nations. No comment on the activities of other social media channels!

There has certainly been a deliberate attempt to avoid expressing the whole truth to the general public, but some of us are glad to have said “No – at least not yet….” when considering the balance between risk and benefit from such a product, given the state of development that it was in. As it is now, I’m even less likely to use it, and will not advise anyone else to do so either.

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amanuensis
2 years ago
Reply to  JohnK

I’ll cover vaccine injuries in a future part of this series!

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

This recent article is a good indicator of what is yet to come in terms of the medium to longer term injuries.

https://doctors4covidethics.org/mrna-vaccines-against-covid-19-und-their-effects-on-the-central-nervous-system/

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RTSC
RTSC
2 years ago
Reply to  BurlingtonBertie

Just read it and as a non-medical person tried to get my head around all the information. I’m just wondering if the spike protein crossing the blood/brain barrier might be a future cause of dementia?

Anyone know?

I’m so relieved I made the decision at the outset not to have one of these experimental jabs. Nothing will get me to submit now.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago
Reply to  RTSC

The pathology report presented is in the case of a man who due to the post mortem was given cause of death a ‘vaccine mRNA spike protein induced dementia’.

It’s an absolute ticking time bomb. Hence why we must protect the children. They are humanity’s only hope.

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RTSC
RTSC
2 years ago
Reply to  BurlingtonBertie

Thank you for replying. That was my fear.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago
Reply to  RTSC

It’s a terrifying prospect. I feel like a voyeur & find it a very uncomfortable, disturbing position to be in.

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Paramaniac
Paramaniac
2 years ago
Reply to  JohnK

We need to all try and understand that Doctors can make virtually any illness, (pneumonia, colds, Sepsis and chronic respiratory illnesses are the main ones) into Covid, at will and when it benefits them. This is a pandemic of misdiagnosis by the medical profession around the globe.
They are in unconscious collusion to maintain Covid as a public health threat purely because the alternative is admitting they went collectively insane over a cold, almost destroyed the economy and inadvertently killed possibly millions in their madness and that can NEVER happen.
By unconscious collusion I mean that they, as a group, have been affected by a group Mass Psychosis outbreak (which went on to infect the scientists, politicians, media and then the public) and, with the aid of confirmation bias, have convinced themselves that they have just defeated the new Black Death when the data shows that this is an illness treated and cured with a Lemsip.
Remember that all the cases, all the hospitalisations, all the serious cases, all the deaths, all depend upon listening to what comes out of the Doctors mouths.
The mistake being made is assuming that the Doctors are of sound mind when they make these claims but it must be understood that THEY themselves are suffering from a group psychological illness which makes all their statistics complete nonsense and not to be trusted,

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Paramaniac

Cock-up theory again. Complete nonsense. Would you mind reading up on Agenda 2030 please?

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Paramaniac
Paramaniac
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

It’s the bizarre contradictions, paradoxes and behaviour that emerge from a Mass Psychosis outbreak that force people to conclude that there MUST, somewhere, be some malevolent intention or intelligence behind it. However, the implausible conspiracy theories, unable to be proven, just gives these people a weapon to condemn the skeptics as tin foil hat wearers and flat earthers.
It’s doing more harm to the Covid skeptic cause than good.
As I’ve said before, this was not made in a lab, this is NOT a conspiracy this is just good old human psychology playing out.

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JXB
JXB
2 years ago
Reply to  Paramaniac

There is one important element to consider… choice. Doctors, politicians, so-called experts, all had to make deliberate choices based on the information and knowledge available to them at the time.

The choice between what was in the Government Pandemic Plan which specifically said lockdowns and masks were of no benefit AND would be detrimental and should not be used – which was initially confirmed as the policy of choice – and to use the very things that would produce the worst outcome.

There was a deliberate choice to use the latter.

Coincidentally (?) every Government (save one) did exactly the same thing, at the same time using the same ‘science’ justification, the same phrases and slogans.

Doctors made a deliberate choice: A) do I uphold my ethical, moral, legal obligation to undertake no medical procedure without the patient’s informed consent, or B) do I take part in a Human clinical trial which has no protocol or ethical approval, and enroll my patients in it without their knowledge subjecting them to an experimental product about which I have no information of its safety or efficacy?

Almost the entire medical and nursing profession in all Countries opted for (B) supported by their professional bodies.

That IS the very definition of conspiracy. Without it there would have been a much larger disparity in policy and behaviour among individual Governments (who normally can’t agree with each other over the time of day), and individuals in professions who, driven by rivalries, frequently do the exact opposite of each other.

I don’t buy into the Mass Psychosis theory – it’s seductive, but I think it is easily explained by evil being done in the name of good – the most pernicious evil, and we need tribunals to bring a very large number of people to justice.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  JXB

Quite right JXB.

Mass Psychosis is what happened to the sheep and NOT to national governments.

Paramaniac is either a lazy thinker or a troll.

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Paramaniac
Paramaniac
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I’ve done 21 years on an Emergency Ambulance and seen more sick people than you’ve had hot dinners. I was the ONLY person on planet earth to call it as Mass Psychosis on day one back in March 2020. I was correct then and I’m even more correct today.
If I wasn’t, and this was a deadly virus, I would have shut the **** up on day two.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Paramaniac

“I’ve done 21 years on an Emergency Ambulance and seen more sick people than you’ve had hot dinners.”

I should damn well hope so – it’s what you get paid for.

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Paramaniac
Paramaniac
2 years ago
Reply to  JXB

No, it’s still Mass Psychosis. You WANT it to be a conspiracy. It’s called confirmation bias where you only accept data that supports your argument and ignore everything else.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago
Reply to  Paramaniac

It’s both. This is all planned. Covid was the start of the implementation of an agenda which has long been in the planning. The psych ops, the brainwashing, the fear were ramped up purposely to create a compliant, terrified populace. All of the world has been subjected to the 8 methods of torture recognised by Amnesty in their 1973 publication on Torture. See slide 26 p49 for Bidermans Chart of Coercion
https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/ACT40/001/1973/en/

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Paramaniac

Have a read of the Iain Davis article I have just posted and try and understand it because you are way off the park.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Paramaniac

https://off-guardian.org/2022/10/13/free-speech-jacinda-ardern-and-the-tyranny-of-kindness/

Here’s an excellent article from Colin Todhunter at Off-Guardian who certainly presents a case in favour of the Reset theory.

Damned conspiracy theorists.

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Geoff Cox
Geoff Cox
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

It can be both mass psychosis and conspiracy theory at the same time. I agree that the medical profession around the world fell into a bout of mass psychosis, as described above, which still goes on today, though many are coming out of it now. However, covid with it’s drama and fearful headlines was the perfect opportunity to push certain globalist buttons and the New World Order had a field day promoting their “change leaders” like the WHO etc who will be the standard bearers of the Great Reset coming soon.

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JohnK
JohnK
2 years ago
Reply to  Paramaniac

Yes, fashions come, and fashions go, but in some parts of the world, money talks as well. E.g. it could be that in some US states there is an insurance incentive to do that. It may also be that they have modified the rules for deciding what to write down without independent assessment. The late Dr. Harold Shipman (a sequential murderer in England a few years ago) would have had a field day as it is now – until they discovered that all his patients died (on paper) that way, of course.

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
2 years ago

In other words the “vaccines” don’t stop transmission or sickness in those “infected”
But, and entirely due to the above, they are excellent at enabling covid to continually mutate on an unprecedented scale.

The jabs don’t work – so everyone must be jabbed. Clown World.
Rinse and repeat.

The world is now well into its 3rd (arguably fourth) winter wave and covid shows no sign whatsoever of abating.

Where has herd immunity gone?
It went when the idiots in charge decided to jab everyone with a leaky vaccine.
And even worse, a very dangerous leaky vaccine.
All predicted years ago by Geert Vanden Bossche.
We can but hope his prediction of more deadly variants does not come to pass.

Oh, and if my memory is correct, the UKHSA/ONS stopped differentiating the vaxxed/unvaxxed on April 1st. How apt.

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JohnK
JohnK
2 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

At the risk of being criticised for being repetitive, this is what the NHS leaflet issued to us in early 2021 said: “We do not yet know whether it will stop you from catching and passing on the virus”. A cynic might say that they have learned the answer. Reading between the lines in the said leaflet, they know perfectly well that it is actually an attempted mitigation drug for those infected, and perhaps it’s only classified as a “vaccine” as a result of tweaking the definition to use the term, plus the benefit of avoiding the usual expenses of new drug assessment protocols etc. Oh, and the granting of Emergency Use Authorisation was a bonus as well.

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Jon Mors
Jon Mors
2 years ago
Reply to  JohnK

When I saw that text I envisaged some lonely NHS bureaucrat sitting at their desk thinking: “The higher ups can go to prison if they want to, I’ll be damned if will”. Or maybe they were just doing their jobs honestly.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
2 years ago
Reply to  JohnK

IMO they were very careful to put some caveats in places that people were less likely to read (or, at least, fully take in).

When the first couple of doses of vaccine were being given we’d already had months of talk about ‘reach herd immunity’ and politicians other ‘government influencers’ were full of ‘protect others’ and ‘only the selfish don’t get vaccinated’.

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RTSC
RTSC
2 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

I watched Geert Vanden Bossche’s latest (and last?) video and it is well worth an hour of your time. It’s hard going in places for a non-medical person but he is clearly saying that the leaky jabs have destroyed the natural immunity of millions and continual use of them is driving virus mutations which the jabbed now have no ability to resist
https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/videos-and-interviews/it-is-5-past-12

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Dr Clare Craig
Dr Clare Craig
2 years ago

Thank you for this. We do need to keep telling people about what is not being published even though there is nothing to share.

Many of us wondered if the high antibody levels in age groups would mean this winter not seeing the same surges as seen previously. However, what we are currently seeing is that the oldest age groups currently have the highest case rates by UKHSA data and the highest estimated case rates by ONS. (I am wary of their figures but the trends and comparisons between groups are probably useful).

https://twitter.com/ClareCraigPath/status/1580460426386542597?s=20&t=-BQ6DJBVaUwvOE5KTE-PRA

I look forward to the next articles.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
2 years ago
Reply to  Dr Clare Craig

Thanks Clare — appreciated.

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Chris P
Chris P
2 years ago
Reply to  Dr Clare Craig

Yes, my immediate thought was could that be because they are the group currently in the process of being injected. Surely, during September most spread would be expected amongst school aged groups.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
2 years ago
Reply to  Chris P

The incidence rates in those aged under 18 started to go up in mid-August. It isn’t clear why this would be the case, other than ‘that’s what happened this time’.

Your point about the current vaccinees being more susceptible to infection is probably correct.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
2 years ago
Reply to  Dr Clare Craig

The data on high infection rates in the elderly is concerning. We’ve not even started winter yet…

I saw this paper on in-vitro studies into immune evasion and potential OAS with recent variants: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.09.15.507787v3.full.pdf . I wonder if we’re seeing an immune imprinting effect going on.

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Chris P
Chris P
2 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

Being a simple-minded soul, is it foolish of me to distrust a paper like this just because it has come out of China?

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amanuensis
amanuensis
2 years ago
Reply to  Chris P

That’s a reasonable position — their stance on Covid has been unhelpful from the start.

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Kenneth Burnley
Kenneth Burnley
2 years ago
Reply to  Dr Clare Craig

You are very right to be wary of any figures provided by the ONS – their latest report on face-mask wearing states that one-in-four Britons wear a face-mask when outdoors. This is wide of the actual evidence seen by anyone outdoors at the moment – the truth being closer to one-in-500!

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For a fist full of roubles
For a fist full of roubles
2 years ago

Meanwhile research into therapeutics and antivirals moves forward at a slow pace and the procurement of products falls way short of the quantities of vaccines – Govuk – The UK government has secured a supply of 4.98 million patient courses of novel oral antivirals to treat COVID-19.
Could it be that not only the drug companies, but general practices too are enriched by the vaccination program.
I have just received my third or fourth text message from my GP asking me to get my vax. Sounds a bit desperate, to me.

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JohnK
JohnK
2 years ago
Reply to  For a fist full of roubles

I think it’s about £20 a head for the GP practices. To be fair to the one I’m registered with, I have had no correspondence from it after letting them know that I do not want it.

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RTSC
RTSC
2 years ago
Reply to  JohnK

Same here. I told my GP surgery to stop sending me the text messages and they did.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
2 years ago
Reply to  For a fist full of roubles

It looks like the latest variants have evolved to evade the current crop of antibody based treatments (Evusheld and Bebtelovimab) — see https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.09.15.507787v3.full.pdf

If only western governments hadn’t burnt their bridges with their rubbishing of repurposed generic drugs that appear to help.

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The old bat
The old bat
2 years ago
Reply to  For a fist full of roubles

I bet you wouldn’t get any text messages if you were just after a face to face appointment sans jab.

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rachel.c
rachel.c
2 years ago

Thanks for continuing to expose the problems we have with the available data. I agree with the 2 previous commentators’ points. However, we are wide awake regarding the so-called vaccines. Many still can’t get their head around the fact that the jabs are worse than useless due to the total corruption of our medical establishment.

The documentary film of “The Real Anthony Fauci” may help bring more people round to thinking critically about the jabs but your efforts remain vital.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
2 years ago
Reply to  rachel.c

Quite — the problem now is of making so many people understand something that they’d really prefer not to understand.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
2 years ago

A good article but I am not sure about this statement:

“Alas, Covid doesn’t care about the Government’s preoccupations and we find ourselves yet again at the start of a Covid wave, with increasing numbers infected and surely non-trivial numbers of hospitalisations to come.”

Of course for someone who is ill enough to be hospitalised, covid is not trivial, though it’s unclear how many people are hospitalised principally because of covid (that’s a stat which from the start has seemed like something you’d clearly want to know but of course it has been studiously avoided by TPTB). But societally, is covid significant? Not sure it ever was.

The “vaccines” as vaccines have failed utterly, not a surprise. They have succeeded, like most other covid measures, in shovelling lots of cash from the already poor and powerless to the already rich and powerful. They have also succeeded, to an extent which now seems to be shrinking, in covering up the scam that was the “covid pandemic” and providing an exit that saves face for the deceivers and the deceived alike. They have probably killed more people that they’ve saved. Most significantly they have prevented and continue to prevent any kind of pressure to take the only sensible course of action towards covid which was to look into preventative measures (diet, exercise, vitamins etc) and therapies (e.g. ivermectin) which has very probably caused immense, needless suffering and death.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
2 years ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

The danger of Covid back in early 2020 is very difficult to fully quantify — I certainly believe that the risk to non-vulnerable groups was massively over-exaggerated.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

I’m not sure “belief” is required – the evidence shows this clearly.

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JXB
JXB
2 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

It was easy to quantify. Diamond Princess cruise ship for one, data from Italy and China.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
2 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

There was a point right at the start where the full risks were unknown.

At that point governments worldwide were continuing to have flights coming in from Wuhan.

Bizarrely, at the point where the risks started to become a bit clearer (only really the vulnerable were at risk), governments decided to go into overdrive.

The whole episode is bizarre — little of it makes sense from a public health perspective.

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Dr G
Dr G
2 years ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Agreed.
A long career in medicine has taught me that disease states always require a multivariate analysis.
Any disease state is a product of pathogenic factors and host resistance, which in turn are a product of complex genetic and lifestyle factors.
Treatments have in turn allowed for these factors and avoided oversimplifying the prescription.
The medical profession has generally in the past been able to account for these variables.
Covid has seen the profession become blinkered to any complexity, considering only a single pathogen (dangerous virus), a single endpoint (risk of death from the virus), and a single treatment (“vaccine”).
As I have previously written, I find this approach morally reprehensible, and medically against all I have ever believed.
I can only conclude that the power of Big Pharma knows no bounds.

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JXB
JXB
2 years ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

‘Most significantly they have prevented and continue to prevent any kind of pressure to take the only sensible course of action towards covid which…’

Why? We don’t do this for Colds and ‘flu. When will people get it through their brainwashed heads that CoVid is only a risk to a tiny proportion of the population who are at the end of their lives. Exercise, diet, vitamins, etc won’t do any good – many of them are bed-ridden and don’t eat!

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  JXB

My understanding is that a small number of people who were NOT at the end of their lives died from rather than with covid. And others became seriously ill, or ill enough to go to hospital. I certainly know personally at least one person in each of these categories. I don’t see why you wouldn’t put some effort into looking at treatments that alleviated this in part – probably a good investment to actually reduce pressure on healthcare. Didn’t they do that in India in some states? As far as I know, colds and flu don’t generally cause cytokine storms, and some unlucky people were probably made very ill or worse by covid in this way. The storm may be preventable/treatable.

As far as diet & lifestyle goes, I see nothing wrong with looking at what factors could make people more resistant to respiratory diseases generally, though I am wary now of anything dubbed a “public health” initiative.

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EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
2 years ago

Has the author tried an FOI.

It seems CDC in the US is similkarly refusing to release data on heart problems associated with vaccines.

Public authorities have no business keeping this data to themselves. All data they collect should be available unless it discloses personal data without consent, threatens national (homeland) security or (perhaps) if it touches on an imminent public policy change.

Why would our servants in government not release the information we need to hold them and their advisers to account. Why is there no Parliamentarian who is prepared to take up this issue. Surely they don’t all aspire to be bag carriers or the junior Minister for whatsits in the Ministry of Poor Administration.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago

I am bored bloody rigid with covid this that and the other, waves, variants, hospitalisations and all the other nonsense that the government manufactured.

We have an extremely serious and dangerous energy shortage that is being ignored, yes there is a lot of hot air (😀) but sod all action.

Apparently the world is heating up to gas mark eleven and in order to cool the planet down everything must be switched off, but after that the ideas cupboard is bare. Well, apart from shutting down free speech.

Thousands of immigrants are being delivered to our island daily and we simply shovel goods and resources on them.

Our economy is collapsing as I type with inflation growing faster than the next covid wave and Truss et al think the solution is to print more money. Wow, that’s bright.

The police forces of this country are an utter f##kin’ disgrace and are basically doing everything but what we pay them to do.

Our health service is a sick joke (😀) and concentrates on population reduction principally via killer snake oil, the progenitors of which should be facing capital punishment.

Our parliamentary system is an utter money pit and serves no purpose whatsoever – only itself.

Local councils are increasingly becoming mafia style kingdoms led by Al Capone wannabees such as Burnham in Manchester and Khan in London.

Financial services companies are re-writing the rule books to suit themselves.

And big tech are rapidly taking over nation states with only “thanks very much” from TPTB.

The world for most of us is on its arse and yet here at DS we are still fretting about damned covid.

Can we get a grip? Please?

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

The aspect of covid which needs stopping is all of the bioweapon injections. Detailed documentation to expose the lies, the fraud & the unlawful bullying & coercion is required to effect that.

Until those injections are stopped worldwide, then mankind as a species is in a very dangerous place. I posted in Round-up a couple of links to a post mortem pathologist’s paper. The subject died of bioweapon injection spike induced dementia. We have to protect the children from this democide. As there is now hard evidence that the spike protein, which these toxic injections programme the body to produce cause dementia, the higher level cortical skills of the injected will be harmed. Think how vulnerable someone with dementia is to manipulation & distraction. This is what we’re dealing with!!!

The other issues are all part of the same agenda. One world government & gulag level quality of life for the plebs.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Re ‘still fretting about damned covid’ — we’re fretting about the mess that is the response and the harm that it is still causing (only because those in authority can’t bring themselves to admit that the response probably made things worse).

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

You are defaulting to cock-up theory which is complete nonsense. This is the Reset as planned by the Davos Deviants and any reading of Agenda 2030 makes this clear.

The problems I have outlined are making things worse and governments worldwide are colluding in order to keep making things worse. All part of the Reset. Assuming covid is the problem simply meets the requirements of their playbook. We need to move on and deal with NOW. Unless we get a grip and until we take back control we will never be in a position to take our revenge.

Never forget. Never forgive.

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JXB
JXB
2 years ago

‘… Way back then the vaccine appeared to have had a positive impact on cases, hospitalisations and deaths…’

Nothing to do with the Gompertz curve trajectory taken by epidemics or seasonality… of course.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
2 years ago
Reply to  JXB

I suggest the world ‘appeared’ is very important in that sentence.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/accelerating-toward-dark-enlightenment


A terrific and long piece from the always excellent Iain Davis for UK Column which confirms the relative absurdity of banging on about Covid1984.

“Covid 19 was a test of social responsibility. We performed well, jumping through all the required hoops on command, readying ourselves to receive our conditional rewards…”

Well worth a read.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

And that’s why it is important to continue to ‘not behave’.

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Welshp
Welshp
2 years ago

Omicron,.Omicron, Omicron. Interestingly, those in the know seem to suggest this is mainly unrelated to the Alpha scariant mmm

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RTSC
RTSC
2 years ago

I’d really appreciate it if one of the medical professionals commenting here could give us there opinion on whether the spike protein crossing the blood/brain barrier might be a possible cause of dementia in the future.

Thanks in advance

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