With the stock prices of both Credit Suisse and Deutsche Bank under pressure, many in the financial field are becoming concerned the world could be facing a renewed financial crisis. But this time around events could play out very differently. It might not even be banks that pose the greatest financial risk to consumers. It could be payment providers like PayPal.
The really big difference between 2007 and 2022 is that bank runs no longer look like the image above, they look like this:
That’s what I was faced with when I tried to transfer £500 from my PayPal account to a regular bank account. On Sunday morning the same message was still occurring. A quick scan of social media proved I was not alone.
“Boycott PayPal” was also trending on Twitter.
So what might the error message indicate about the business?
Here’s what we know so far.
In the last 48 hours a sneaky amendment to PayPal’s acceptable use policy widely captured the public’s attention. Free speech advocates had spotted that customers agreeing to the update would be allowing a sum of $2,500 to be lifted from their accounts if PayPal ever found them guilty of “sending, posting, or publication of any messages, content, or materials” that “promote misinformation” or “present a risk to user safety or wellbeing”.
When word got out, those already concerned about the company’s draconian turn started shutting their accounts and urging others to do the same on social media.
For some, the action proved the final straw.
On Saturday evening U.K. time, PayPal’s former president David Marcus distanced himself very clearly from the action. Elon Musk, whose pathway to billionairehood started in 2000 when his company X.com was merged with Peter Thiel’s Confinity to create the PayPal of today, later tweeted that he agreed.
Readers of the Daily Sceptic and members of the Free Speech Union (such as myself) will already know that over the past few months PayPal has been on a whirlwind tour of shutting down the accounts of platforms and media sites it has deemed guilty of spreading misinformation. In many instances, those affected, such as the Daily Sceptic, were not even consulted ahead of the fact and had little idea of what specific text, post or media had violated PayPal terms.
So why exactly would PayPal descend to this level of reputational self-harm?
It’s hard to know for sure, but chances are the decision rests on pressures PayPal itself is facing with respect to its legal duty to enforce Know-Your-Customer (KYC) and Anti-Money Laundering (AML) rules. If I was to take an educated bet, it’s the counterterrorism section of the rulebook that is most relevant.
These days it’s hard to imagine that banks weren’t always responsible for screening transactions and making judgements about their legitimacy. But until the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) was formed in 1989 with a view to combatting money laundering, banks only really cared about screening credit risk. It wasn’t until 2001 and the 9/11 attacks on the Twin Towers (and the introduction of the Patriot Act) that the scope of banks’ responsibilities in this field was expanded to include combatting the financing of terrorism too.
Tackling terrorist financing and criminality was easy enough when everyone was on the same page about what constituted terrorism or financial crime. But one man’s freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist. And in an increasingly polarised world, it’s become harder for ordinary bank employees to differentiate free-speech critical of authority from radicalising terrorist content, such as that distributed by Isis on social media to recruit new members.
It wasn’t the job they were hired to do.
Three factors have muddied the waters further.
The first is the scale of penalties directed at banks found in breach of AML/KYC regulation. The fear of being slammed with fines has made banks and payment providers like PayPal hugely risk-averse and inclined to err on the side of caution when facing any ambiguity. If something even whiffs of misinformation, from their point of view it’s better to shut it down than to run the risk of getting a fine.
Second, is a lack of resources. Human arbitration is costly, and screening activities would be unaffordable if they were to be done by living, breathing individuals. This is why banks and payment providers like PayPal have invested huge sums of money in cost-saving screening technology to detect illegal transactions both actively and preemptively. The problem here is that most of these tools, known as suptech or regtech, are algorithmically applied with limited human oversight. That means it’s mostly artificial rather than human intelligence deciding who gets to stay on a platform and who gets frozen out. As yet, robots are not well known for their sense of nuance, empathy or capacity to process ambiguity. How they decide what they decide is a black-box interpretation of the inputs they’ve been programmed with.
The third issue is the structure of the KYC/AML policing system itself. Since the scale of the task is so enormous, it goes beyond the scope and capacity of any existing government agency. Knowing this, governments, very similar to how they managed the enforcement of lockdown policy, realised it would be more cost-efficient to outsource the policing of their own rules to the banks and payment companies directly. But this is a strategically coercive dynamic. If payment companies don’t fall in line, they risk having their licences removed and their businesses shut down. Non-compliance is therefore not an option. PayPal isn’t perfect, but the pressure it is facing is very similar to the pressure pubs, restaurants and supermarkets faced under Covid. The structural problem here, as with the retail sector during Covid, is those payment companies are not legislative specialists. They take for granted that the governments know what they are doing and that the rules they are setting are human rights compatible and in line with the laws of the land. Nor do the payment companies have the capacity to investigate the rights and wrongs of every case. This is a job for the legal system, which is already excessively costly to access for most ordinary individuals.
This in itself is a huge blind spot for the financial system. There’s a very strong case to be made that the way democratic governments have gone about enforcing AML legislation is not compatible with human rights at all. The enshrined right of habeas corpus might even be under threat. The FATF has itself belatedly realised this. Back in October 2021, it noted in a “stock-take on the unintended consequences of the FATF standards” that (my emphasis):
Situations have arisen in the course of FATF evaluations concerning the interaction between the FATF Recommendations on combating TF (particularly R.5 and R.6) and due process and procedural rights (e.g. to legal representation, fair trial, and to challenge designations, etc.), which have been considered on a case-by-case approach as they arise in specific country contexts. In addition, the FATF has also been made aware of instances of the misapplication of the FATF Standards, which are allegedly introduced by jurisdictions to address AML/CFT deficiencies identified through the FATF’s mutual evaluation or ICRG process, potentially as an excuse measures with another motivation. This information often comes as a result of stakeholder input or when the attention of the FATF or its members is drawn to a particular issue, such as when another international body is reviewing legislation or actions are taken by national authorities. Analysis in the stocktake has therefore focused on the due process and procedural rights issues most often arising in evaluations or feedback.
The stock-take identified the following factors as key examples of where misapplication of FATF standards had affected due process and procedural rights:
- excessively broad or vague offences in legal counterterrorism financing frameworks, which can lead to wrongful application of preventative and disruptive measures including sanctions that are not proportionate;
- issues relevant to investigation and prosecution of TF and ML offences, such as the presumption of innocence and a person’s right to effective protection by the courts;
- and, incorrect implementation of UNSCRs and FATF Standards on due process and procedural issues for asset freezing, including rights to review, to challenge designations, and to basic expenses.
Readers can hopefully see the issue.
The entire regulatory system since 2008 has focused on ensuring that the 24-hour payment banking infrastructure we have become used to will never face the risk of going down again.
Put bluntly, the style of service disruption currently being experienced at PayPal is something major banking and payment institutions are not supposed to be able to get away with. At least not for long. So yes, it does feel like a big deal.
For the most part, the practice of shuttering access through website maintenance, downtime or error messages is more commonly seen at cryptocurrency platforms during extreme bitcoin selloffs. Closing access to people’s accounts or pretending to do website maintenance often gives operators the time to raise the liquidity they need by slowing redemptions. But it’s far from a transparent or honourable policy.
For PayPal to have triggered a run on itself because it was merely following government orders is not just unfortunate, it is careless. But it also speaks of a deeper problem at the heart of the anti-money laundering regulatory structure. The entire system we have created may no longer be fit for purpose. Consider, for example, that despite many billions of dollars spent on FATF compliance, a company like Wirecard, whose business model in retrospect looks to have been based on fraud as a service (FAAS), could so easily rise to the top of the German stock market. Nor has any of the regulation been successful at combatting the type of electronic financial fraud (mostly based on phishing attacks or social engineering) that impacts users every day.
We need to seriously ask if the benefits outweigh the collateral damage also being incurred.
But while PayPal might not be entirely responsible for its own actions on the KYC/AML front, its business model may be more vulnerable to this sort of fallout than most people appreciate. The culpability for that lies with PayPal exclusively.
A key revenue generator for the group has always been the interest revenue it absorbs from all the customer balances it holds. (You may not have realised it, but if you have any significant sums in a PayPal account, you won’t be collecting interest on them.) A large outflow of deposits could easily inhibit the company’s ability to raise this income and harm its overall revenue-generating capability. (You don’t have to hold balances at PayPal to use it.)
More critical for PayPal at this juncture will be its inability as a payments company to access the central bank lender-of-last-resort backstop. That means if the group is genuinely facing challenges meeting transfer and redemption requests, it will only be able to turn to wholesale liquidity markets to make up the difference. The degree to which customer balances are locked up in harder-to-liquidate securities or bonds will largely determine its success here. Frustratingly for PayPal, in the current illiquid bond market, there’s a good chance that selling these quickly and without a loss could be challenging. The alternative path for PayPal will be to use these securities as collateral for temporary loans. But the expense here is potentially open-ended if there are no obliging counterparts. That may (or may not) be why the company is currently restricting transfers.
Before rushing to conclusions, it’s important to stress the company still has recourse to liquidity from fully-funded (in fact over-collateralised) entities. We may not know the makeup of that liquidity, but solvency is unlikely to be an issue over the longer term. The biggest problem facing users today will be uncertainty over how quickly they can transfer funds out of the PayPal ecosystem.
What I can say is that in the modern digital age, bank runs will be different. We may even long for the days when tellers transparently shut up shop when the vaults ran dry. At least it was clear what was going on. These days, on the other hand, it will become ever harder to differentiate a bank run from a maintenance issue on a website. Such matters will be shrouded in plausible deniability and uncertainty. Suffice it to say, corporate communication departments will always err towards disinformation of their own sort, that any such outage is nothing out of the ordinary.
Even more concerning is that in the event of a run, customers will no longer be able to tell if those with better connections aren’t unfairly cutting ahead of them in the redemption queue. Virtual queues may seem technologically efficient, but there’s no transparency to them at all.
That’s why if you’re caught out by any of these policies you already don’t stand a chance of getting your account back unless you have existing connections to the management or a platform of your own. None of this is progressive or encouraging.
Izabella Kaminska is the Editor of the Blind Spot, a financial news media service focused on the news everyone else is missing.
PayPal was not contacted for this piece, which is based on the opinions of the author.
Stop Press: PayPal has now done a reverse ferret, claiming the new Acceptable Use Policy, containing the threat of the $2,500 fine, was issued in “error”. MailOnline has the story. As Kyle Becker pointed out on Twitter, PayPal is claiming its new policy to fine users $2,500 per infraction for “misinformation” is, in fact… misinformation.
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A huge logistical challenge for the NHS.
Never mind: they can chuck cancer patients, heart patients, sick children, cancer screening, and non-urgent operations out the window.
I was just typing exactly the same thing! All staff on the jabathon for the worried well, for actual sick people it’s tough titties.
The “worried well” are on the slippery slope to oblivion and every shot will bring it closer.
Yep: hope springs eternal!
Do your homework, oh jabbed one.
This seems awfully likely.
You’ve not been paying attention.
They can’t profit on chucking them out the window – they’re more likely to chuck them into ‘care’ homes and jab them with midazolam and morphine.
I asked yesterday whether my friend had been given her booster by a member of the NHS. She said yes, she believed so. This really infuriates me as there are many unsurmountable problems in life, but training up additional people to give an intermuscular injection is not one of them. Clear incompetence by the NHS and government. So NHS staff sidelined into a menial task leaving other more serious cases wanting. Pathetic…
And think of the money that will save. Remember, perks and salaries for top management have to come out of a meagre allowance from Bozo and Co!
While I take your point – that wasn’t my first worry.
What about the fact that this is A) being prompted about possibly massively overblown fears to do with a ‘variant’ that not enough is yet known about, will B) cause god knows what further damage to immune systems and, possibly most importantly of all, C) won’t have been trialled or tested – see what Mike Yeadon says on this point. These boosters could indeed for that reason be the death shots and people will almost now panic to queue up to get them.
oncomir
so have they told us what is in it?
How would they know?
Milo I’m afraid up here the panic is already real. I (very reluctantly) had my second jab last week, for no reason other than coercion to keep my job. I had to stand in a long queue of people gleefully waiting for their booster, discussing the merits of this third jab now being visible on the NHS app and generally being over the moon their turn had come. In the pittling rain.
I silenced one man with a loud ‘I don’t have the app and am only here so I don’t get sacked’, as he explained he was glad he could book his holiday now, and genuinely felt upset that this is our humanity now. I felt like a lamb to the slaughter and the others would have pushed me out of the way for it. Sad times indeed
And if the “holidaymaker’ cannot give proof of a negative test before departure, as is becoming the norm with the latest edition of “The Insanity”.he is absolutely fucked.
“What price your booster then” would then be a difficult question to answer…. …..
Well, no surprises there then!
Just had a look on https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus and surprise, surprise, still no updated face nappy regulations despite them coming into force in 10 hours’ time. I expect them to be the same as last time, but equally I wouldn’t put it past them to slip something nasty in there like removing some of the exemptions.
Nothing out from National Police Chiefs Council either so the ‘law’ will go ignored by Bobbies with no clue and not much inclination to care.
Cowards, cretins and collaborators.
Conspiracy: Quarterly jabs on subscription for life – check!
Pleeze suh, daily stab, yeh?
I thought it was first ‘discovered’ 18 November but they have researched and tested thoroughly. They are openly laughing
It appears on some lists from Nov 2020….
Well, the JCVI might as well approve it, because if they didn’t Whitty would have done so anyway.
More firkin stabs by a psychopath state. Great for sadomasochists, ungreat for the rest of us.
Genocide.
Covid was always about mass genocide. That genocide is now being brought about about by bioweapons masquerading as vaccines. It was patently obvious from the start that the ‘pandemic” was a scam and if people still can’t see that, then they almost certainly never will. There is no point in wasting our time on these dullards.
The horror is loved ones who never awake. Literally and figuratively.
This ^^^^ It really is a horror. Like in the body snatchers, the unbelievable loss of someone still apparently/”physically” there.
It is. That word used to sound hollow but now I grasp its horrific mundanity. Is it though the first auto-genocide? Lemmings to the cliffs…
auto-genocide. Whew.
Not even the Nazis managed that one.
Remember the Beast in the Restaurant at the End of the Universe who desired only to be eaten?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness
Didn’t take long for it’s only 1 dose for the kids to turn into 2.
As expected.
Or for the ‘booster’ to be expanded to everybody – again as expected.
One shot will likely be more than enough, but they’ll give them another just to be sure.
Didn’t the JCVI say they didn’t think 12-15 year olds needed to be vaccinated, when it was only one dose? Someone’s got them back on script, it appears. Let’s just turn a blind eye to all the deaths and heart issues we’ve already seen in this age group since they started rolling out the jabs to them. I shudder to think what 2 doses will do. Criminal.
Incredible that they can admit on one hand that they don’t know yet if the vaccine will be effective, yet on the other hand accelerate many more people getting many more shots of it.
And the thick puddings are jumping over each other to roll their sleeves up.
Maybe they are, but we can also think positively and make the following simple to understand point:
“You’ve had 2 injections. Now the authorities are saying you need a 3rd one. They’re not mentioning a 4th one. When they do, will you take it? How far will you allow this to go before you think ‘Wait a minute’?”
Some of those who have had only one injection but not a 2nd one may have wised up to some extent. Certainly in Switzerland many of the single-spiked voted against vaccine passports.
Yes, they won’t be able to bare their arms quick enough. Some of them seem to find vaccine roulette so exciting.
Three actually as a booster has also been approved.
For pro-vax nazis, it’s the gift that keeps on giving.
Although these injections are clearly killing people overall mortality figures are not significantly higher. I suspect the pressure is on to boost the death rate and hope as winter progresses that their expectations are fulfilled.
Once mortality figures increase the door is open for all the excuses:
“it was the omicron wot done it.”
And on the back of this all sorts of evils will be enacted – all in our best interests of course.
Excess deaths for those aged 45-65 have been ‘significantly higher’ than normal (about 5 standard deviations, which is certainly ‘unusual’) since about July. Which is when most in that age group got invited for their second jab.
I know there was a UK funeral director who blew the whistle on disproportionate numbers of stillbirths and dead young babies. Very upsetting. Here is also a report that the same is happening in Canada:
https://brightlightnews.com/full-interview-stillbirths-exploding-in-fully-vaccinated-mothers-dr-daniel-nagase/
This is so vile. Originally it was said that the pregnant or those considering pregnancy should not have the jabs. Then it changed and absolutely horrifically one heard some pregnant women were really pleased it had changed. Some of those babies will have died, from this evidence.
Evildoers always think that “this time is or will be different, because we can get away with it this time/ the context is different.” However it all end in paranoia (Stalin) self-destruction (Hitler) and/or a tortured conscience (Lady MacBeth). They know no peace, and resent those who do.
I hope and pray that the time over which it triumphs is cut short, and judgement upon the evildoers comes swiftly, before the innocent and over-trusting are overwhelmed.
Why the desperation for Billys brew.??
Are they getting behind and missing out on stab bonus payments in the swiss bank accounts ??
This is total madness now .Follow the money…
Bound to be. Didn’t he make a visit to Downing St in advance of COP in Glasgow? and if it wasn’t on the agenda for the G20 meeting around same time I’ll eat my hat.
One of the most disturbing aspects of all this is how jokes and rhetorical exaggerations about the plandemic have been confirmed as reality within barely a few weeks or months.
At this rate, a world dictatorship, techno slavery, compulsory wokery, eco fascism, and the rest, will be realised in a few short years.
I still wont be stuck like a pig though. They’ll have to oven bake my ass not spit roast me.
Looks like the pharmaceutical dictatorship has achieved 100% penetration of the ‘independent’ JVCI – our protection has been removed – a bit topsy-tervy – supposed to cut out the cancer not the healthy stuff…..
PJW is on it as usual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku5qT_TrHDU
Pfizer have said if their jab isn’t effective against Omicron they will create an ‘improved’ version within 100 days.
Usual EUA rules apply then??
What if the impy versh isn’t effective either? One almost has to laugh here.
If we had 6 digits on each hand instead of 5, they’d be saying within 144 days.
That statement from Pfizer confirms that they’re not sure so why is the government rolling out a massive booster / second jab program? Another “it’s fucking obvious this is a set-up” moment.
Have I misread? If one is immunocompromised, has had two doses and a booster they’ll be eligible for dose four in 3 months?
Obviously the immunocompromised are not dying off quickly enough.
Nope, you haven’t misread. Apparently a “full course” of so-called covid vaccination for the severely immunocompromised is 3 doses, not 2. Presumably it’s possible then that they could be “jabbed” 4 times within the space of a year. All thoroughly researched I’m sure. Not.
If all adults are jabbed, how do you determine effectiveness without some un-jabbed for comparison?
I don’t think determining effectiveness is a priority for governments or pharma. We’re way way beyond that now.
I know, i’m just trying to provoke some critical thought, every little helps.
All adults won’t be jabbed…
I wish I shared your optimism. Do you think they’ll stop short of mandating it? It feels to me like mandating it would force them to look like the fascist tyrants we know they are, but Joe Fuckface still thinks are innocent politicians trying to do the right thing. Is it all just about nudging with empty threats?
I don’t think they’ll mandate it in this country… but then, I didn’t expect Australia to go full-on totalitarian.
They’ll mandate it, they are terrified that they will be punished if the truth gets out. In case I can’t escape from it any other way, I am keeping a couple of grand on standby just in case I need to resort to bribery.
Righto. I’m dusting off my Uzi.
How much would you need to bribe a GP? They are so overpaid anyway.
I doubt a couple of grand would impress them.
It’ll be the nurse at my GP surgery who is actually medically trained only to the level that she can stab, weigh and report blood pressure. She is not permitted to diagnose anything or even to take a blood sample – you have to travel to a special clinic for that. That’s the way that urban GPs seem to have been working for many years. She’ll certainly be earning a sliver of what the GPs have been creaming.
Ha ha ha – it’s the question that must not be asked. After all, it would be too scientific … ha ha ha.
That’s why they are so determined to get rid of any control group.
Pharma Stock prices
Thankfully that data is published in the weekly vaccine surveillance reports so we know for sure that the vaccinated have around twice the chance of being infected compared to the unvaccinated across most age groups. It’s political dynamite but no MSM want to report it. I wonder why.
So in August it was “only” 1 jab for 12 to 15 year olds because of the risk of heart inflammation but now it’s 2 jabs for them within 3 months.
and before that it was even “no jab” for 12 to 15 year olds based on the JCVI advice. Mission creep.
What am I missing. The Moronic Variant was detected last week and today the JVCI recommend this, but the politicians claim that it’s too early to tell anything about the Variant. Reckless or am
i honestly missing something ? And now young men are being offered a rapid second jab, despite it being dangerous only yesterday ? Again – sorry to ask, but what am I missing ?
is fully vaccinated now 3 stabs ? Why can’t one have AZ for booster jab anymore ?
Not missing anything. Either the variant was publicised now in order to make bringing in this further madness easier, or it was seen as an opportunity to be taken advantage of.
Because there are always variants, one can be pulled out of the bag at any time.
I guess quite a few of us predicted one for about this time. So we have what seems to be a moderate cold virus doing the job this time in an obvious display of contempt for Joe Public.
As a 66 year old I’m still very happy to be part of the control group.
I’ll carry on relying on my memory B and T cells after having Covid in March 2020 which was not as bad as flu.
I’m assuming I have them and even if I don’t I will not let the toxic experimental jabs anywhere near me.
COVID for me (admittedly younger) wasn’t even as bad as a nasty cold!
I had the same experience. In fact I sum it up to friends as “I’ve had worse hangovers”.
Ever since that moment I’ve been up for “cracking on” as normal, way before any vaccine was on the cards.
I hope those who are still on this bandwagon are prepared to be in it for the long haul. Their immune system has been corrupted. Not only has it been corrupted, but it has been turned into a type of pay-as-you-go top-up service. Just as the tyrants chase variants, the injected are now chasing ‘booster’ shots to try to prop up their waning immunity to a virus with a statistically negligible IFR.
You sometimes have to pinch yourself to make sure you’re not dreaming/having a nightmare.
Yes, I sometimes get this weird feeling that I will wake up and find that 2020-21 never happened.
If only.
Well of course it runs on the Microsoft Windows model, regular updates and regular viruses..
Funny you should say that. Jeffrey Tucker of the Brownstone Institute recently wrote this interesting piece:
‘It’s odd how [Gates] speaks of medicines as if they are like software. Try it out, observe how it works. When you find a problem, put the technicians to work. Every new iteration is an experiment. Free to try until you finally buy. Surely over time, we’ll find the answer to the problem of blocking or blotting out pathogens.
‘Software. Hardware. Applications. Subscriptions! This is how he thinks, as if the human body and its deadly dance with viruses is a recent problem and we are only at the very beginning of finding solutions, without realizing that this reality has been present for the whole of human existence and that we had tremendous success in the course of the 20th century minimizing bad pathogenic outcomes without his guidance and benefaction.
‘Essentially, he has long promoted the idea that traditional public health praxis was for the analog age; in the digital age, we need government planning, advanced technology, mass surveillance, and the ability to control human beings the way a software company manages personal computers.
‘Most people have no idea how such a rich and smart person could be so dim on essential matters of complex cell biology. Hacking the human body, improving it with uploads and downloads, is surely a more ominous challenge than inventing and managing man-made computers. So herein I try to present the reasons for Gates’s way of thinking.’
https://brownstone.org/articles/why-bill-gates-is-pivoting-on-existing-covid-vaccines/
Gates is evil, but hardly dim.
I think once a week would be optimal. In fact they could offer a voucher with every edition of Saturday’s Guardian.
Forget that, if they covered the pages in that vaccine filled nano tube technology they patented a few years ago Graun readers can be boosted while reading every edition!
And do us all a favour at the same time.
And a face nappy!
Alf Cannan, Chief Minister of the Isle of man.
“The new mutation could be a potential trigger point, meaning we have to act and take steps to protect our community. There is still much we do not know about the Omicron variant, the most crucial is that question about how effective the vaccine will be in offering us protection.
The greatest concern is that the virus has mutated to such an extent that our immune systems, trained by the vaccine, no longer recognise the virus and no longer trigger an immune response. This sort of variant is known as vaccine escape variant.“
Don’t tell me…his solution is harsh lockdown for at least 100 days whilst our heroes Pfizer “tweak” the jabs to be effective?
The vaccine has failed, Roll out the Vaccine!
He’s got himself in a right mess with that statement
.
Incredible. Did he come up with that crap by himself?
Naughty boy.
“…’phone for you Alf. It’s Bill…”
No. That’s not the greatest concern. That’s a near certainty.
There are other risks that are greater than the risk of vaccine escape, but those three will do for now.
Mutations are random, this agenda is calculated and predictable. Omicron is nothing more than a cover for vaccine adverse effects and justification to tighten the noose again.
Yes I totally agree, especially when they have already mentioned that the Moronic, sorry Omicron variant could affect the heart. How convenient given the side effects of the vaccine….
I’ve started swearing. I’ve never sworn before in my life. I’m 69.
F00king he11 James.. steady on there, we’ve only just started, you’ll be like a trooper by springtime..
Firkin’ classic!
…..I was just thinking to myself….the language on this site has deteriorated since I first joined….
Presumably because everyone here is more and more incredulous at how this flu is being dealt with.
The Times is well and truly captured.
Third-worst of the MSM when it comes to Coronabollox (after the BBC and Guardian – not actually sure which of those takes first place).
The Independent is right up there also
And the Daily Fail!
That’s not quite as bad as the others – particularly below the line, where the commenters can often see through the bollox. That doesn’t happen much on the Guardian or BBC where they all cheer on the latest dystopian announcement and demand even more dystopian measure.
The best of them (or perhaps least-worst) is the Telegraph which does sometimes have sensible articles. Spectator can be OK too.
I’m not sure it matters, they seem to exist in a kind of toxic symbiosis, that feed by their consumers in academia, education especially school staff rooms, the media, and North London.
Up until recently I was still guiltily buying it on a Saturday, mainly for the crossword and puzzles, but am pleased to say this is no longer the case.
Their science editor, Tom Whipple, is a pure zealot and a lot of the columnists have shown staggering smugness, arrogance and, of course, ignorance.
I miss the puzzles but feel a lot cleaner now.
Likewise I bought a newspaper for the crossword for a while but gave up a long time ago as it was so full of propaganda – am so glad I did. Now I just occasionally glance at the headlines just to see what lies are being fed.to the masses.
It always was..
I think you’re a few years late with that observation!
So, what’s changed in the 3 months since they couldn’t approve it on the balance of risk/benefit? The Omicron variant can’t be a factor – they can’t possibly know enough about it at this stage.
ADE – that or they really are out to bump people off.
As we’re heading into winter, continental Europe is seeing probably the worst wave so far, even though that shouldn’t have happened because of the wonderful vaxx. Particularly in high vaxx countries, like NL.
I think we are seeing here right now what Amanuensis referred to yesterday in data he’s seen. It looks like at the start of a wave the unvaxxed are hit first, being the ones leading in infections and hospitalisations, then after about a month it goes about 50-50, then after a few more weeks more infections and hospitalisations in the vaxxed than the unvaxxed. ‘Cases’ were higher in unvaxxed in NL from August to October (mainly children), went almost 50-50 by end October, now are 50-50 with vaxx rising, hospitalisations have been trending the same way. With vaxx rate of 90% in over 50s and 85% in over 12s, it’s hard to explain why the NL infection/hospitalisation rate is worse now than it was in January 2021 – and no peak in sight.
How hard it must be to pretend to be concerned about the moronic variant while at the same time thanking your lucky stars for this fabulous get-out clause.
But was that related to the timing of the “vaccines”? In this case, if the damage has already been done it’s possible that the spiked could be most affected right from the beginning.
IMO TPTB know there’s trouble coming and are trying a ‘double or nothing’ with the boosters.
here’s to hoping
“The Omicron variant can’t be a factor – they can’t possibly know enough about it at this stage.”
Yes – science, as it used to be practised before March 2020 would suggest that. But. as science, as we formerly knew it, has flown out the window…..anything goes.
Unless THEY DO. Because…
In March this year the results of a trial, in which the UK took part, of the SaNOtize Nitric Oxide nasal spray were published that showed that it ‘kills’ 95% of the virus in 24hours and 99% in 72hours. But the bastards in government here have left us dangling and untreated while the commercial product Enovid is available over the counter in Israel.
From everything I read the still experimental mRNA vaccines are both dangerous and ineffective, so, until they let us have a proper virus killer they can shove their experimental vaccines up their collective arsehole.
Is that available over here yet? Last I checked it was only available in Israel and some other far-flung country.
Until the MHRA grant an EUA it won’t be available. So, picture Hell freezing over, Boris acknowledging all his children etc etc.
Bill Gates’ bungs to these medical watchdogs has surely paid dividends.
What’s known about Wei Shen Lim? Had some funding from Pfizer, based in Nottingham, anything more?
I apologise if others have said this, but the more I think about it, this is a way for covering up the apparent dangers to the heart from the current vaccines. Surprise surprise, this ‘new’ variant causes arrhythmia and blood clots, so now a convenient scapegoat has been ‘created’ for the crappy vaccines. But what is even more frightening is the thought that worldwide co-operation at a high and secret level would be necessary to do this. So, I sometimes think I am being exceptionally paranoid or else what is happening is more than unthinkable.
I am a person who used to scoff at conspiracy theories. I don’t anymore.
We may be paranoid, but you can be certain that bastards are out to get us. The only matter of contention is ‘why?’
That’s easy.. vaccine passports lead to digital ID and linked digital banking + social credit system = the all new normal.. total slavery..
They might just want us dead. It’s been a long held dream of some of the global elites that Planet Earth should be emptied of its seething masses.
In 1980 the Georgia Guidestones were erected and the first of the ten inscriptions (commandments?) says that humanity should be maintained at under 500 million. That would of course require an enormous population reduction. Is a planned reduction now getting underway? Personally I wouldn’t bet against it.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=georgia+guidestones+documentary
One has only to read about the Manhattan Project to see how conspiracies can be enacted with none of the parties knowing the part they play.
I am sure most of the players are in the dark. Or told reassuring lies eg there will be an “antidote” to the vaxxines.
Which is also why they need to make the control group as small as possible.
We’re nearly out of conspiracy theories.
It would have been very surprising if they decided it should be done after 9 months rather than 6 months because, you know, science!
It is very worrying to hear a government minister tell us that it will be at least 2 weeks before they know enough about omicron to work out how dangerous it is but they do know that you need more vaccine to protect yourself from it.
One of the governments advisor said yesterday:
-first 2 shots to prevent hospitalisation
-booster to prevent transmission
I wonder where these people are pulling off stuff like this.
“Having a booster dose of the vaccine will help to increase our level of protection…”
Who is Wei Shen Lim talking about? Over 99% are already protected courtesy of their natural immune system and the vaccines killed off most of the remaining 1% when rolled out last winter.
Yes, yes I know…it has nothing to do with a virus.
I can’t understand the shock horror this has been greeted with either (assuming it’s true) because no one has died from it and it sounds pretty harmless. We should be having covid parties to pass this one around!
Javid was rationalising this by saying it has only attacked young people so far – and the elderly might be more susceptible. Pure speculation.
lockdown the country because a non medic says “it might”
insanity.
That, I think, was in reports from Soweto. Anyone know what the range of demographics is there? Are there a disproportionate number of young people and very few old?
Yes.
Also relatively few vaccinated — AFAICT the vaccinated are overrepresented in their hospitalisations.
Well Jabbit would say that wouldn’t he.. he wants the kids jabbed..
It’s mostly down to the media. They love historically trying to make the latest variant is super deadly and going to wipe out the whole of humanity. I say we should boycotte the media, stop watching the news, buying newspapers and going to news websites.
This is insanity. 3 months?!? This is based on antibodies waning? Since when did antibodies become the objective of vaccination? It’s well understood that antibodies to an infection wane after an illness. The purpose of vaccination should be to train the immune system.
How does your 3 month gene therapy immunity stack up against my far-right QAnon “natural” immunity? Yeah, I think that’s holding up pretty well. I’m going to stick with that, thanks.
If you keep pounding the immune system to create antibodies like this, it will never create the T Cells and long term memory it needs to combat the virus or any other virus. You will have a completely deranged and depleted immune system that won’t know its ass from its elbow and you’ll create an airborne, vaccine induced auto-immune disease in a population with precious little immune system left.
If you wanted to get a population to wipe itself out through its own trusting stupidity, this would be the way to go.
And the majority of the sheep are happily going along with it
The question is does the jab PREVENT proper immunity?
Do unjabbed people have better immunity from re-infection than jabbed and caught COVID?
I can’t find any decent data on this. It’s frustrating that we’re always talking in terms of vaxxed vs unvaxxed. The real separation needs to be vaxxed with no prior immunity, unvaxxed with no prior immunity, then same again but with prior immunity.
It’s what you would expect from a real clinical trial with a control group.
But the long-term study didn’t have enough time to study long term effects.
and they unblinded the trials, meaning that they can never be completed.
2 months of data, according to Peter McCullough.
After that it is anyone’s guess.
Long term study? There hasn’t even been adequte short to medium term testing.
No funding available for that trial I imagine.
Quite. And that’s despite covid costing gazillions of pounds for the pathetic Track’n’Trace alone.
There will be no real clinical trials.
Re your last paragraph – that is the plan.
They’re at risk of creating high-zone tolerance / hyperimmunisation.
“… early evidence suggested that higher antibody levels may offer better protection against the variant.”
Worth listening to Sucharit Bhakdi on the role of antibodies in the immune system:
https://doctors4covidethics.org/the-covid-vaccines-were-designed-to-fail-nov-25th-2021/
What arrant nonsense. Same lies next winter? And repeat.
Politics. Not health.
France started this shortening of time between jabs earlier this month, when completely arbitrarily it decided everyone with a Janssen jab had to have a booster adfter 28 days of the original jab. Even the FDA/CDC only say at a minimum of 2 months.
It was only a matter of time before everyone joined in.
It is beginning to look like Austria may be turning over (see worldometers), if so that follows the pattern of Bulgaria and Romania which last time I looked had the two lowest vaccination rates in Europe.
Ah well it was the lockdown wot did it!
Ukraine is over the worst, and maybe Russia too, both very “hesitant” societies.
Original SARS died out on it’s own in 2013 so why are we surprised?
The majority of covid waves look the same — about a month from start to the peak, and then another month for the way down.
It doesn’t seem to matter what people do — lockdowns, surge vaccinations, facemasks, etc — the pattern is surprisingly consistent.
The one complication is that high levels of vaccination appear to result in a markedly higher post-wave plateau stage than if there is low vaccination.
What do you mean “turning over”?
Looks like Djokovic is standing strong. Hero. Man of honour. Only Unity Saves The Serbs.
Prior I didn’t like him but his recent behaviour clearly put him as my #1 sports person.
So the immunosuppressed are to have a fourth jab… then it will be everyone else in March then fifth dose will start being rolled out in June/ July. Sixth dose for some will be before the end of 2022.
Didn’t the JCVI only a few months ago suggest that there was negligible benefit for youngsters to take the vaccine and therefore advised against it. Now a second is fine. This country is corrupt as fuck!
Its amazing how that advice can be reversed when you replace those who dare to question the government.
Government scientist who questioned ‘risk-benefit ratio’ of vaccinating 12 to 15-year-olds leaves role on Covid advisory board
The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) is ‘refreshing‘ the membership of its Covid subcommittee as Professor Robert Dingwall, a critic of giving the shots to children, leaves the body.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9873785/Scientist-questioned-risk-benefit-ratio-vaccinating-12-15-year-olds-leaves-JCVI-role.html
Anyone listen to the latest Aubrey Marcus podcast? It’s bloomin great!
We have a “vaccine” resistant variant.
Quick everyone get a booster with the same Wuhan original slop as last time!
Sounds like a great way to induce original antigenic sin to me.
It is remarkable isn’t it.
The likes of JCVI and co., are little more than modern day drug pushers. First one’s free and then you get to pay… for ever!
A bit long but very informative. Philip McMillan in discussion with 4 holders of advanced (PhD) degrees.
All 4 more or less agree (1) Covid Vaccines are poor. (2) Vaccines are driving variants
(3) Auto-immune diseases are likely (4) Vaccination in the teeth of a pandemic was a big mistake,
Omicron anagram
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oncomir
An oncomir (also oncomiR) is a microRNA (miRNA) that is associated with cancer. MicroRNAs are short RNA molecules about 22 nucleotides in length. Essentially, miRNAs specifically target certain messenger RNAs (mRNAs) to prevent them from coding for a specific protein. The dysregulation of certain microRNAs (oncomirs) has been associated with specific cancer forming (oncogenic) events. Many different oncomirs have been identified in numerous types of human cancers
And we’re the nutters?
No offence to a venerable DS member, but… Brachiopod. Reverse evolution?
To Life immortal ! (reference to shite 90s Sci Fi series)
I’m with Laurence Fox on this – did my resesearch and decided not to have the jab – judging by the side-effects of the jab I think I made the right decision – I would rather go through having the perfectly normal symptoms caused by the virus for a few days than the abnormal and worrying side-effects caused by the jab ..
He isn’t important enough to be given saline solution!
“No complaints”. Why not?
“but what is the science of that?” Err, this has never been about science, and exactly how difficult would it have been to discover that there have been no studies on the effects of jab mix-n-match?
cancel
I’m a bit behind sorry: now the govt says children who are at practically zero risk from covid need to now have two initial jabs then be injected with a booster jab all within the space of 6 months in order to save the NazHiS? And they need boosters for a new variant of a virus the jabs don’t even stop transmission of, and in respect of which the virus is a negligible risk anyway.
I’m confused. I’m not thick (v good degree from an old uni; retrained as a lawyer, good grades at law school; 15 years negotiating complex transactions going into 100s of millions of pounds at a time in a variety of sectors).
I must be missing something. Please enlighten me.
It’s just a conspiracy…
It’s called GENOSIDE.
I will enlighten you
Like most of us on here you have a brain which you are using.
Unlike the tossers at Sage who are totally anencaphalic.
Am I alone in thinking that the pretty shitty cold that my wife and I suffered a few weeks back (as did many of our friends as well) might have been the omicron variant? If so, the bird has flown and any new measures are just tokenism to appease the baying (we want Christmas lockdown) mainstream media.
Since any symptom is anything they say now, unless they reclassify it later, you may have had anything or nothing… or Covid.
I think they are just playing on suggestibility. If you are unvaxxed you have probably got a natural immunity to Sars-Cov 19 after two years of it supposedly circulating like mad in the population. Remember coronaviruses are not influenza, which changes its outer coat each year, thus evading the immune system.
Sars coronaviruses are large stable viruses, and you will have cross immunity from your prior exposure. Nothing to worry about.
I have got a nasty chest infection right now, but I don’t for a moment think I have got covid. It is a normal winter virus. I haven’t a clue what to do with a test kit, I have never even seen one, have no idea how to use one, and I intend to keep it that way.
“The JCVI said that both the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines can be given as a booster for adults, with equal preference given to both.”
So (almost) all 3rd injections in Britain are mRNA?
https://twitter.com/UsforThemUK/status/1465029150914355209
https://usforthem.co.uk/resources/template-letters/
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Dear
Re: Face coverings. NAME AND FORM
I am writing to let you know that my child NAME is not able to wear a face covering. Therefore as stated in the most recent government guidance on face coverings (20th July 2021) is not required to wear one. There are a wide variety of reasons people are exempt from wearing face coverings and it is unlawful to request proof of exemptions. This means that NAME will not be required, or able, to wear a face covering at school, at any time.
I would appreciate it if you and other staff could ensure they are not made to feel uncomfortable or singled out because they are unable to wear a face covering.
Kind regards
How can the JCVI approve a booster shot for 12-15 year olds, when they did not approve the primary injection?
As I remember it Whitty just overruled the JCVI’s medical recommendation, using the non-medical justification of loss of schooling. So how can this “ruling” from the JCVI be valid medically?
It can’t be, they are only following orders. Actually I have heard that excuse before. History repeats itself.
If the truth ever comes out to the whole world one day: will it be a liberation or mass suicide from despair? Roiling revolution, or demonic acceptance of a post-human servitude?
Hopefully liberation coupled by punishment with extreme prejudice.
In medicine more often doesn’t equal better. It isn’t clear why they think more vaccine will be beneficial over these timescales.
I also note that the clinical trials for the boosters used an interval of 9-11 months (IIRC). There’s no scientific evidence supporting a more frequent booster and no understanding of what the consequences will be.
The Kool-Aid is more effective if you drink more!
Dan Wootton in the Daily Fail nails it:
DAN WOOTTON: If we don’t stand up to our hysterical Omicron overlords now then I fear our future as a free people is lost forever
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10254761/DAN-WOOTTON-stand-Omicron-overlords-fear-future-free-people.html
Some great best rated readers comments!
Wasn’t Dan Wootton pro lockdown before?
My impression, reading between the lines, is that the reduction in the time frame for boosters isn’t possible to achieve. The booster roll-out is already slow (difficulty of getting an appointment, no local GPs doing it, jab fatigue etc) so speeding it up is like flogging a dead horse. So I’m guessing that the 3 month booster for the under 40s is just a way of getting more jabs into more agile, mobile arms. Whether that is simply to sell more doses or it is to get the young more jabbed up, I don’t know.
The JCVI: The best vaccines advice money can buy.
Is there any public institution left that isn’t completely corrupted by Big Pharma money?
Fuck the jab
Reuters reporting Japan is at 1% of its COVID peak cases and falling. India is at 3% of its peak and falling. What did these countries do? Ditch vaccine mandates for ivermectin. Since April 28, India medical officials started providing hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin to its massive population. As India is the major pharmaceutical manufacturer in the world, they were ready for this massive drug distribution. MIRACULOUSLY!, COVID cases have plummeted quickly since then. Meanwhile, all “first world” countries in Europe are reporting a rise in cases. Get your ivermectin before it is too late! https://ivmpharmacy.com
Is anybody organising against this? Where do I go to find anyone that I can join with to mount an opposition?
I’m learning more and more first hand evidence of problems relating to the heart with this jab.
Direct quote: ‘chest pains significantly worse after 2nd Jab’
Anecdotal evidence from practising physiotherapists suggesting numerous complaints of painful left shoulders after jabs (mild heart attack???)
Footballers and professional sports people dropping like flies.
What is REALLY going on?????
I think the vaxxines are working rather too well, and too quickly. The initial bioweapon should have caused more deaths in the first epidemic wave, to cover the extra deaths later on from the vaxxine.
Now we are left with a rather unimpressive “pandemic” no-one is really afraid of, and vaxxines that are scything through professional footballers on the field.
No chance of pretending these deaths are covid. The genociders have no cover left.
I hope that whistleblowers will come out. People need to spill the beans quick to escape the inevitable retribution that is coming.
Agree
As well as the Dr Sucharit Bhakdi video posted by someone earlier in this thread, this is a good 5 minute video if you haven’t seen it:
https://doctors4covidethics.org/british-medical-journal-editor-peter-doshi-speaks-out/
I think they are maiming people en masse and making them more vulnerable to having a terminal illness or fatal event over time and with each successive vaccination.
Correct.
What they aren’t doing is killing vast numbers, yet… The fact is you can easily hurt people without killing them. People are pretty tough. I think at this rate however more people will start dying.
Depopulation.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/rfk-jr-alex-newman-fauci-gates-covid/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=971ded41-0157-4e56-8da2-c558e804e5ce
RFK, Jr. Tells The New American: Fauci Has ‘Dark History’ That Must Be Exposed
Anthony Fauci is the architect of agency capture within the public health agencies.
He has orchestrated the transformation of HHS [U.S. Department of Health and Human Services] from a public health agency to an incubator for pharmaceutical products and a promoter of the Big Pharma agenda.
He’s the J. Edgar Hoover of public health. He’s managed to stay for 50 years in office, I show in my book, not by actually accomplishing any measurable successes in public health — public health has declined dramatically under his regime — but rather by serving the interests of pharmaceutical companies — by helping make this country the most pharmaceutical dependent nation in the world.
We take three times more pharmaceutical drugs than the average in other western nations.
We pay the highest prices for those drugs, and we have by far the worst health outcomes in the entire developed world. We’re 79th in the world in terms of our total health outcomes.
This generation of children that has come of age during Tony Fauci’s regime — since 1984 — is the sickest generation in history.
When he came into NIH [National Institutes of Health] chronic disease rates [in our children] in our country were around 6%. Today they’re 54%.
By chronic disease, I mean, not just obesity, but neurodevelopmental diseases like ADD, ADHD, speech delay, language delay, tics, narcolepsy, Tourette’s syndrome, autism.
Autism has gone from one in every 10,000 people in my generation — which it still is today — to one in every 34 kids in my children’s generation.
I am in the process of reading this book and it is VERY scary.
How Fauci is still in this position of power I don’t know.
Seeing his discussion with senator paul rand I can only conclude that he has hsd serious botox to prevent sweating.
His evilness surpasses that of hitler and stslin combined.
I see former international banker Sajid Javid is now referring to the fourth shot as the booster, to be had on top of three primary doses. Let’s see if the fifth shot becomes the booster, on top of the four primary shots. I bet they’re drawing straws for who gets to be the one to tell the plebs it’s jabs every few weeks forever or face higher risk than unvax.
The most disturbing thing from these wildly disturbed madmen is “vaccine passport don’t need a vote”. They intend to bring in a mandatory ID system with no democratic oversight. Insanity prevails.
“Professor Wei Shen Lim, Chairman of the JCVI said: “Having a booster dose of the vaccine will help to increase our level of protection against the Omicron variant.”
Will it though?
“But our scientists are learning more hour by hour, and it does appear that Omicron spreads very rapidly, and can be spread between people who are double vaccinated.”
Boris. Gov website.
Oops!
Didn’t the JCVI recently change membership and now they’re in favour of everything they were against.
Btw, why do they think it’s OK to shorten the time between vaxx jags. It’s not a booster it’s a third vaxx.
There are also many medications that can increase bloot clot risk such as the pill for women. Does anyone else remember that they initially advised that iif you are taking ANY medication whatsoever then you shouldn’t be taki g the jags
Why on earth are these boosters being shoved down people’s throats when they simply do not work. Cardiac (serious) adverse events abound post vaxx. If a person wants to take the risk, by all means take the booster. Many of us have declined and never been healthier or happier.
More child abuse from the Johnson cabal. The only consolation is we all know how nonces are dealt with when they end up doing stir.