MPs are urging major high street stores to scrap unisex changing rooms following a surge in women suffering traumatic encounters with men. The Mail on Sunday has more.
Last week Charlotte Kirby, 25, posted a video tearfully revealing how two men had walked in on her while she tried on outfits at a unisex changing room at Primark in Cambridge.
Now a Mail on Sunday investigation has found that her ordeal is common, unearthing repeated distress at M&S and rival chains with no sex-segregated spaces.
One mother said that while taking her teenage girl to M&S for her first bras, they encountered a man emerging from a cubicle with his testicles exposed.
Another mother tweeted how at another M&S store, in Exeter, a man left open the door of his cubicle in the ‘gender-neutral’ changing rooms, exposing himself as he tried on trousers without any underwear.
A woman complained and the man was then escorted out, while protesting.
Another mother said she had banned her 13-year-old daughter from going clothes shopping alone after discovering her local H&M provides only unisex changing rooms.
On Mumsnet, a woman recounted how she had been secretly filmed in a unisex changing room.
Our investigation has uncovered many criminal cases involving sexual assaults, voyeurism and harassment in unisex changing rooms.
This year a Met Police officer was given a suspended prison sentence for covertly filming a woman in a Primark dressing room.
H&M, John Lewis, M&S, Monsoon and Primark no longer offer female only spaces after transgender activists called for unisex changing rooms – despite a survey showing that 98% of the public wanted single-sex spaces.
Tory MP Miriam Cates said: “Nobody is saying all men are a risk but if you are a predatory man you now have an open door – literally – to vulnerable women in a state of undress. I really hope these big companies wake up to what they are doing because it is not safe.”
Meanwhile, in the States a high school banned some female athletes from their own changing room over their objections to a male transgender student using it.
Vermont’s state law means that students can play sports and use the locker [changing room] which correspond to the gender with which they identify.
Blake Allen, a player on the team, told WCAX how uncomfortable it makes her feel, saying “its a huge thing… everyone’s asking ‘why aren’t you allowed in the locker room?'”
Shortly after the incident, the school sent out an email to families of the players, informing them that the school has “plenty of space where students who feel uncomfortable with the laws may change in privacy”.
Superintendent Layne Millington, who oversees the Orange County School District, has yet to comment on the controversy.
With about 10 players on the team, Allen said that making each of them getting changed in the single bathroom stall doesn’t make sense.
“They want all the girls who feel uncomfortable to get changed in a single-stall bathroom, which would take over 30 minutes,” she said. “Where, if one person got changed separately, it would take a minute, like no extra time.”
Allen said the issue isn’t with the transgender athlete playing on the team, but being in a locker room where the female students are at their most vulnerable.
“There are biological boys that go into the girl’s bathroom, but never a locker room,” Allen said.
Commenting on the story, Caitlyn Jenner blasted the “hijacking and politicisation” of the trans issue by the Left:
The Left has hijacked and politicised yet another minority group in our wonderful country and this time it’s trans people. As a result of their radical Left and their use of identity politics agenda, they’re really driving this country apart. I thought Joe Biden was supposed to be the great unifier…
Do these girls have the right to comment and tell the school board how uncomfortable they are being in the locker room with basically a biological boy with a penis? Absolutely they do. What is the school’s solution? Let’s ban the 10 girls who complained. Put them off in the corner in their own little part of the locker room and do nothing when it comes to this trans person. Everything is out of whack right now and these things have to stop.
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Is there a small minority of men that would take advantage of unisex changing rooms? Yep. Is there a small minority of women who would lie or distort an encounter in order to make a point? Yep. Should we have unisex changing rooms? Of course not, we need to get back to respecting fundamental, immutable, differences between men and women. We need to respect those differences in ALL aspects of life though, not cherry pick when men and women can be different to fit an agenda.
I know I’ll get shot down for this by the many feminists that now seem to be posting on here, but feminism does need to take some responsibility for the ridiculous situation we now find society is in. Yep, I expect the usual ‘blame the victim’ replies, rather than considering where the deep roots of a problem start.
lI think it might be worth you re-reading JK Rowling’s take on this:
https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/
‘So I want trans women to be safe. At the same time, I do not want to make natal girls and women less safe. When you throw open the doors of bathrooms and changing rooms to any man who believes or feels he’s a woman – and, as I’ve said, gender confirmation certificates may now be granted without any need for surgery or hormones – then you open the door to any and all men who wish to come inside. That is the simple truth.’
I’m not sure why you needed to mention feminism, it is not relevant here, as your first paragraph is perfectly reasonable, but I guess you never pass up the opportunity to make a slur against the opposite sex in one way or another. Given that all feminism is is the equality of women across the board, that we be entitled to the same rights and opportunities in life as men, I’ve no idea why this fundamental human right should threaten you so much. Which, as evidenced in your recent hostile posts, it most certainly does.
Do you think that a person with different coloured skin, a different sexual preference or religion should have limitations placed on them and not be afforded equal opportunities? I’d love to know how feminists are responsible for pervy men assaulting females in changing rooms. Ironically, if anybody is doing any blaming around here it is you.
Let’s try this again then, but this time without you throwing insults around and then using strawman arguments about me opposing your rudeness because you’re a “forthright woman”. Let me be crystal clear on this from the start: I don’t give two hoots whether you’re male, female, black, white, able-bodied, disabled, or a damn alien for that matter. I do care that communication follows some basic etiquette that’s built around polite interaction. That etiquette can be inadvertently lost when we’re communicating via the written word though, so we should be extra careful about how we respond; I don’t always get that right and you most certainly do not either. Anyway, I’ll try to answer your question without an overly wordy reply and without any need for personal barbs that seem too often to litter your responses…
Original feminism was built around the idea that women are not given the same opportunities that men are, and that that inequality should be addressed – an honourable goal that few people would argue against. Feminists now, however, want equality in ALL aspects of life, regardless of biological differences or innate behavioural differences. As part of the modern feminist agenda, differences are to be removed. Men and women are to become the same being, with social constructs being the only real source of difference. Feminist ideology morphed from being one that campaigned for equality of opportunity, to one that campaigned for equality of outcome. Every outcome. Every. Single. One. Now, if you then have an establishment that has succumbed to this ideology, you end up having people of influence considering the most perverse ideas e.g. children switching genders, men giving birth, men and women competing in sport together, men and women being represented equally in all places (regardless of ability) etc. Oh, and yes, unisex toilets. In a nutshell, men being women and women being men.
So, how do we achieve our goal? We take a perfectly sensible, honest, movement and we take advantage of it to strive, not for equality of opportunity, but for equality of outcome – we aim to replace a perceived patriarchy with a matriarchy. And one way to do this is to get rid of the very idea of masculinity, to embed into minds that masculinity itself is ‘toxic’ – something that needs to be eradicated. We don’t talk about any issues with femininity of course, because that’s what we want to replace masculinity with. So we then promote some traditionally male traits onto women (e.g. competitiveness, aggression etc), but we really focus our efforts on delegitimising the very idea of what it means to be a man. We do this by infiltrating every position of influence within society to spread our message – men are bad, women are good; the ultimate goal being the indoctrination of children (you warp those easily manipulated minds and you have an ever-present army). Ultimately, you’ve removed the idea of the individual and replaced it with a lump of clay whose mould is shaped female.
What’s feminism got to do with unisex toilets? Everything.
“Men and women are to become the same being..” Feminism has never been about wanting to be the same as men, only the right to equality. I think you’re either getting mixed up with some minority extreme militant types or you’re embellishing the whole concept of actual legit feminism to try and bolster your argument. If some crazy loon went and shot a load of journalists for taking the piss out of their Prophet, would you then go on to condemn all Muslims? You conveniently tar us all with the same brush because it suits your warped view of what feminism is and fuels your hostility towards women even more. Go look at any definition of the word and it is not what you say at all. It is not some arbitrary term that can be bastardized and thrown around to suit the context or one’s agenda.
So I would agree with ebygum here in that you are so far off base you’ve morphed into pure fiction. You just come across to me like somebody who feels threatened by women. Oh and speaking of which ( which nicely ties into your allegations of rudeness ), “Address your tone – you’re being extremely combative”. Is it any wonder I did not take kindly to such a patronizing response? You talk of rude, then who the hell are you to tell me to pipe down?
And in what realm is “You’re allowed to change your mind you know?” considered rude? Another definition we obviously differ on. Perhaps if you can’t take the heat then stay out of the comments section.
You’re literally incapable of even attempting to be polite aren’t you? Another aggressive (not even passive aggressive) reply from you – so well measured. I also liked I like how you took my reply completely out of context (the context being your previous replies to me). Thank you for that. Nice.
No, I won’t be leaving the comment sections, no matter how much you try to bully and intimidate with your aggressive, expletive-laden, posts. You just seem to be a “forthright woman” (as you’ve said) that simply cannot cope with being questioned or consider an alternative view – someone that’s used to getting their own way… I wonder, with you being a “forthright woman” in todays man-hating world, where that incredibly harmful, uncompromising, attitude could come from? Uhmm.
Anyway, this isn’t the place for personal vendettas (which you clearly have), I was simply providing an answer to your question – one that I tried to do in a polite a way as possible.
I’ll let you rage on. Oh, and remember that victim card you have seems able to shut down most discussion, but not all; at some point you’ll have to come out from behind your hiding spot and say something that doesn’t revolve around the tired old “it’s because I’m a ‘forthright woman'” nonsense. It’ll be a while yet I fear
That’ll be the mysterious “victim card” that you have assigned me then because I have no clue what you’re on about. Perhaps re-read your vitriolic post to me from the other day and tell me again how impolite I am. Hypocrite, much? I can’t be held responsible for your bad attitude and insecurities, although I suspect any woman who isn’t content to sit in a docile manner will be blamed and labelled Public Enemy No.1 just for asserting her rights and opinions. “Hiding spot”? Who’s hiding??
Seems you can dish it out but you can’t take it. Same old same old…
You played it again!! I’m not convinced you’re aware you’re doing it – not because you’re a “forthright woman” of course, but… hmmm, what other reason could there be? Hilarious.
So much for “I won’t be replying to you again.”
Could you spit your dummy out a bit more do you think?!
I think what I believe feminism is and what you believe it is are two different things. What you talk about is, to me, the ‘extreme’ of feminism…..and when you do that you are not talking about the vast majority of ordinary women.
I’m a bit baffled as to how you get from women wanting equity in the workplace and in opportunity to being to blame for men either pretending they are women, or taking advantage of women or assaulting women….?
I think you need to define terms; “feminist” is a very broad term that means different things to different people.
It seems to me that every movement that may have started out simply asking for the removal of what were often arbitrary, discriminatory laws and rules has been hijacked by extremists.
Basically, a tiny minority of male “trans-women” and their fellow left-wing trans-activists are trying (and succeeding) in eliminating women, due to the cowardice and compliance of our political class.
It is all based on the lie that someone born male (or female) can change their sex. They can’t; it’s impossible. They can change their appearance, but biologically they remain the same sex.
And of course some men will exploit the opportunities the LIE and the cowardice/compliance of the political class gives them.
Boycott these stores. We have
The so-called trans activism is being pushed and promoted in order to meet another objective. One of the aims of Agenda 2030 is to destroy completely the basics of our humanity and to be successful that requires the destruction of the family unit.
I tend to suspect that the majority of trans people resent this activism supposedly in their name and wish only to get on with their lives in peace. The activists are evil buggers pushing another agenda even though some are probably too stupid to realise and fail to see how they are being used.
For the Davos Deviants (DD’s) pushing this politisisation of sex and gender the raising of divisions and anger in the population is an end in itself, much like the racial aggravations of the likes of BLM.
Raise the anger, stoke the fear, confuse, disorientate, all for the purpose of softening the population ready for the next big thing be it war, fuel shortages, cold weather, empty supermarkets.
Politicians can of course run with this trans aggravation in order to keep it in the news and provide the illusion they are doing something. The reality is they could kill this nonsense overnight with a few quiet words in appropriate earholes. They won’t of course.
Yet again this stupidity will require push back from ordinary people. The danger for the DD’s is that as people become used to self-organisation and fighting back their perceived control falls another notch. Either way, more and more people are becoming switched on to fighting back and that can’t be bad.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-10-03-youtube-censors-viral-video-new-italian-pm-christianity-family-anti-wokeness.html
And here is further confirmation of the case set out above. Coincidentally.
https://www.technocracy.news/hohmann-technocrats-float-idea-of-digital-families-to-plug-declining-population/
This is how depraved and dystopian the DD’s are thinking.
Another day in fricken upside down world…..why on earth is this even something we are discussing? I mean I know why but for goodness sake how have we strayed from the common sense path to the extent it’s even up for discussion?…It’s truly beyond me, like so very much these days…..God I sound old….another glass of wine I think!……
If there is a body of people less worth listening to than ‘Transgender Activists’, I don’t know it. People who have become confused about how to deal with people who at best are confused themselves, but who may well be dangerous narcissists and aggressive perverts.
While we’re at that, can we please ban gay men from men’s toilets? Especially when they’re not doing anything but enjoying the inspiring atmosphere, drilling holes into toilet walls and maybe kicking down the occasional door if they believe their human right of gawping at other men’s penises has been violated? As fas as I can remember, unisex changing/ fitting rooms have existed in Germany forever and I don’t remember this causing any issues. Public toilets, however, are an entirely different story. On of the first things $country_boy learns after moving to $city is that it’s not exactly safe to use them.
Is it just a weird coincidence that ‘Transmen’ (born as women but now self identifying as men) are never, ever reported going into men’s changing facilities to look at the male genitals on display??