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PayPal Closes Account of Anti-Paedophile Group – But Keeps Pro-Paedophile Group Account Open

by Will Jones
23 September 2022 1:14 PM

A gay rights organisation opposed to paedophilia was deplatformed by PayPal, only to discover on Thursday that pro-paedophile organisation Prostasia continues to be on good business terms with the financial technology company. The Daily Wire has the story.

Gays Against Groomers, an organisation comprised entirely of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and even transgender people, launched in 2022 and has had meteoric success at attracting followers to their cause exposing the harms done to children by some radicals hiding behind the LGBTQ banner. Gays Against Groomers wrote early on Tuesday that PayPal and [subsidiary] Venmo had dropped them for “violating” their user agreement.

JUST IN: While we’re not allowed to conduct business on PayPal, guess who is… an organization that offers a support group for “MAPs”@PayPal banned us for being against pedophilia, but allow actual pedophile groups to use their services unabated.#BoycottPayPal pic.twitter.com/b6csNR73cv

— Gays Against Groomers (@againstgrmrs) September 22, 2022

“The fact that an organisation comprised solely of gay people, with trans contributors as well, is being banned from the largest payment processors in the country for opposing the sexualisation and mutilation of children is shocking, to say the least,” Jaimee Michell, the Gays Against Groomers founder, told the Daily Wire.

“On top of that, we discovered tonight that while we have been banned, an organisation that literally runs a support group for paedophiles is able to use PayPal’s services. It tells you all you need to know about the state of our society right now,” Michell added.

The gay rights advocacy group is the latest to be targeted by PayPal for challenging dominant leftist narratives surrounding sex and gender. Evolutionary biologist Colin Wright, writer Ian Miles Cheong, and recently the Free Speech Union and the Daily Sceptic, run by conservative editor Toby Young, have all had their accounts permanently closed by PayPal without notice.

Ironically, PayPal sported a banner that said “Open For All” on Twitter during Pride month in June, which their U.K. account still displays. While critics of leftist ideology are denied the ability to conduct commerce, PayPal remains open for business with the openly pedophilic advocacy group Prostasia. Prostasia accepts donations through their website by credit card, check, Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, as well as PayPal and Venmo.

Of particular concern is a forum hosted by Prostasia called the MAP Support Club (MSC), which is described as a “chat-based peer-support network for teenagers and adults who self-identify as being attracted to younger minors.” MAP Support Club invites “minor attracted people” aged 13 years old and up to participate in online chats about “minor attraction”.

“It is intended as a community where MAPs can connect with one another, offer and receive support in difficult times, and overall just enjoy a relaxed atmosphere where one can have fun and not be judged,” reads the MAP Support Club website.

Gays Against Groomers has said that Google has also disabled its account, which included the use of its Gmail email address, for “violating” its policies.

BREAKING: After being banned by @PayPal and @Venmo less than 24 hours ago, We have JUST been banned by @Google!

Big tech is coordinating a massive attack on our organization for trying to protect children. THIS IS INSANE. pic.twitter.com/AwAzd1eV0p

— Gays Against Groomers (@againstgrmrs) September 21, 2022

Websites such as Reddit have recently banned the word ‘groomer’, claiming that it is an anti-LGBT slur.

The Daily Wire notes that PayPal has upped its banning activity since it partnered with the far-Left, woke Anti-Defamation League (ADL) in 2021 to “fight extremism and protect marginalised communities.” According to the press release, the ADL said the collaboration “launched a research effort to address the urgent need to understand how extremist and hate movements throughout the U.S. are attempting to leverage financial platforms to fund criminal activity.”

Worth reading in full.

Tags: CensorshipLGBTPayPalWoke Gobbledegook

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exbrit
exbrit
2 years ago

Terms such as “woke” and “progressive” really don’t help, since they imply a sort of fuzzy liberal softness. What we are actually dealing with is a systematic attack on the nuclear family, parents’ rights to educate their children, and virtually every form of individualism and individual agency. Buffoons like Piers Morgan allow the debate to be trivialized and let the average person / frog continue their slow boiling.

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DomH75
DomH75
2 years ago
Reply to  exbrit

Once people realise what ‘progressive’ means and what progressivism is leading towards – a communist, objective reality-denying police state – their attitude to the word changes. The genius of the term ‘progressive’ is that it implies moving forward, but people never think about its destination.

It’s horrifying to look at how much damage the people who started this in the West – the Frankfurt School – have inflicted in 90 years, by undermining our institutions from within. Nowadays, even most of the proponents of Frankfurt School ideology have no idea what the Frankfurt School was.

When my English GSCEs and Film Studies A Level used ‘Critical Theory’ in the early 1990s (it said it right there in the course information) I just assumed ‘Critical Theory’ meant being critical, not that we would be using neo-Marxist methods of analysis, relating to gender, race and other ‘oppression’ theories. Eventually I learned about it all (thank you internet!) and I realised how much of my school and college education was couched in fraudulent concepts created by a communist cult.

I wonder how many of my teachers knew…

Last edited 2 years ago by DomH75
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jburns75
jburns75
2 years ago
Reply to  DomH75

Great point. I expect ‘National Socialism’ and ‘Collectivism’ sounded appealing until everyone realised what people marching under those banners really wanted.

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RW
RW
2 years ago
Reply to  DomH75

JFTR: The so-called Frankfurt schools is not really Marxist, rather post-Marxist. Otherwise, its followers could hardly have come up with nonsense like regarding a white male factory worker privileged when compared to an insanely rich black actress.

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exbrit
exbrit
2 years ago
Reply to  DomH75

The “confession” is right there on the Wikipedia page:

In the 1970s, perceiving the limitations of the New Left, Marcuse de-emphasized the third world and revolutionary violence in favor of a focus on social issues in the United States.[47] He sought to recruit other movements on the political periphery, such as environmentalism and feminism, to a popular front for socialism. During this period, he spoke enthusiastically about women’s liberation, seeing in it echoes of his earlier work in Eros and Civilization. Seeing that the revolutionary moment of the 1960s was over, Marcuse advised students to avoid even a suggestion of terrorism. Instead he advocated the “long march through the institutions” and recommended educational institutions as a refuge for radicals in the U.S.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  exbrit

I am thinking that this may be a phising exercise by PayPal. Acting under orders PayPal were instructed to close the accounts of the FSU, DS and Toby knowing full well that this would generate massive publicity and particularly throughout the Sceptic media.

Leave to rage for a couple of days and then close the account of an anti paedophile Gay supporting organisation while ‘letting slip’ that PayPal was still offering its services to a paedophile supporting group.

Now why would they take such actions?

Well action number one above sets the fires burning and brings out all the Sceptics who identify themselves by closing their accounts. Action number two identifies those in the process of climbing off the fence but who required a bigger push to take the final jump. Having now joined the ranks of the account closers they have identified themselves.

PayPal supporting a paedophile group after closing the account of an openly anti paedophile outfit does the job admirably. PayPal can now be reasonably sure that the remains of its customer base are sheeple who will put up with anything.

Perhaps the number of account closures is seen as a reasonably reliable indicator of the percentage of “trouble causers” in the population as a whole, the ones likely to kick back against CBDC.

Nice and tidy as we say.

Once again, per Neil Oliver:

It’s not always about what they say it’s about.

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VAX FREE IanC
VAX FREE IanC
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I fear you may be on to something HP. Where from here though (rhetorical)? Every turning appears to be leading in to another conspiracy theory cul de sac.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  VAX FREE IanC

Thanks VF.

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VWTS
VWTS
2 years ago

Dear oh dear.

The excesses of the sexual revolution were finally checked in the late 1970s when certain elements started pushing paedophilia as acceptable and ordinary people’s tolerance ran dry. I hope we’re seeing history repeat itself. If certain amoral companies get their fingers burned in the process, so much the better.

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JXB
JXB
2 years ago
Reply to  VWTS

A pendulum inevitable returns back along the arc it describes.

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RW
RW
2 years ago
Reply to  VWTS

The unpleasant reality is that these people have just been hiding in plain sight of their progressive allies and have apparently recently restarted attempts to get their sexual preferences for sexually immature human bodies finally legalized. That’s decidedly a point where calling a spade a spade is appropriate. To everyone who possibly reads this and could be affected by it: These people want to have anal sex with your underage, male children and they further want that any attempt to stop them from doing this will be considered a hate crime.

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Occams Pangolin Pie
Occams Pangolin Pie
2 years ago

#BoycottPayPal
Message ends (and all relevant hashtags, obvs).
Unless of course you’re in to the whole Soylent Green Schwab Grooming Disney Fantasia.

(Meanwhile, dig out Vera Sharav video with her speaking a few days ago in Nuremburg on the direct parallels with convid genocide and Operation Paperclip and its hideous legacy.)

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JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
2 years ago

Over the past few years I have read the odd comment here or there where people were saying that as ‘tolerance’ and encouraging of any and all ‘marginal’ groups increased, that they would start trying to normalise pedophilia. I tended to dismiss those comments as a little far-fetched, but it is now starting to look like they were spot on.

This is simply insane. Hopefully this is the faux anti-fascist movement’s McCarthy moment, it is long overdue.

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Jonathan M
Jonathan M
2 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

I would bet a guinea to a gooseberry that paedophilia will be legal within 30 years.

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Hester
Hester
2 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan M

make it 5 at the most on the current trajectory

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RW
RW
2 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

The kind of homosexuality the so-called classic Greeks considered just an ordinary part of their culture was mostly men having sex with boys and not with other men. Examples for this can, for instance, be found in Xenophon’s Anabasis. Hence, there’s absolutely nothing surprising about the ultimate destination of this journey.

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RTSC
RTSC
2 years ago
Reply to  RW

The same applies in Afghanistan, where young girls can’t be abused because it devalues them in the marriage market. So young boys are used.

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Monro
Monro
2 years ago

My wife and I have both just closed our respective paypal accounts.

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JXB
JXB
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

Me too two days ago. I stopped using Twitter and FaceBook some time ago, although I wasn’t a big user, and my search engine of preference is DuckDuckGo (yes really!) which I have compared against Google and it works no less well except without the filtering of what I may see.

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VWTS
VWTS
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

I’ve just finished closing the three(!) accounts I apparently had, including one under an alias email address that I’d completely forgotten about, and one connected to an old mobile number that I don’t have access to anymore. The latter was tricky to recover – partly because of PayPal’s dreadful buggy interface – but worth every frustrating second to sever all ties with them.

I never made much use of any of the accounts, and they had been dormant for years, so they won’t feel any direct financial pain. I just hope that somewhere they have a big red flashing number counting account closures, so they can measure exactly how badly they’ve messed up.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

For many small businesses, organisations and people, Pay-Pal has become a vital financial utility, as such it should be operating as a utility and offering its services to everyone and anyone who is engaged in legal business and activity. Just walking away from Pay-Pal is not the answer, what Pay-Pal are doing now is the thin edge of the wedge, already we are seeing mainstream banks start to go down this line. Pay-Pal, Banks, Credit Cards are utilities just like water or electric; utility services should not be subject to arbitrary decisions on acceptable users by some faceless entity. We need to be pressing our Politicians for appropriate control and regulation to ensure all utilities are supplied on a non discriminatory basis.

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JXB
JXB
2 years ago

Rather than complain, the correct remedy is for decent minded individuals to stop using these services. They will then be left as cesspits of the likeminded who can wallow in their own ordure and corruption… as the companies go bankrupt.

It is actually not difficult to avoid these. There are multiple alternative social media platforms and search engines. What PayPal does has been adopted by other payment services and banks, so if you give it up, life won’t stop.

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Grahamb
Grahamb
2 years ago

At least the tech companies are showing their hands now. I wonder who is making the decisions on who gets cut-off?

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Jonathan M
Jonathan M
2 years ago
Reply to  Grahamb

A very good question…

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Nicholas Britton
Nicholas Britton
2 years ago

I hope this is PayPal’s “Gillette moment”. If they intended to alienate a large proportion of their account-holders and persuade many to cancel their accounts (including myself) then this anti-free speech campaign has been a resounding success. Not only have they discriminated against people on purely political grounds they have shown very clearly that everyone needs to take care where they keep their money lest these goons try to steal it from you because you said something they don’t like. My advice: empty your account immediately, tell paypal to delete all your data, then put your money elsewhere.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago

I ended up talking to a bod who changed the subject when I stated the reason for closing my account, changed the subject!
All she did was read a script, no humanity from thee supposed real person…
Upshot is that my PayPal account is closed.

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TheGreenAcres
TheGreenAcres
2 years ago

As if we didn’t already know, this just confirms it.

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jburns75
jburns75
2 years ago

The more I think about it, the more ‘off’ this whole PayPal thing smells.. I wonder if it might be an insider trading scam?

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  jburns75

Have a read of my post above.

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Jane G
Jane G
2 years ago

Continuing the discussion begun on the other PayPal thread (in case people have stopped reading it).
Since PP has gone rogue and, as some have asserted, they have a right to cease doing business with groups with whom they are in disagreement, we can expect any one of a number of things to happen.

Firstly, it is possible that major credit cards could pull the same stunt leaving our ability to transact severely curtailed.

Some enterprising smaller company could spot a marketing opportunity and move into the space left by PP/Mastercard/Visa etc. The snag is it could take a while, and they might be subject to punitive action by governments clumsily enacting anti-hate-speech legislation such as ours is busy drafting and redrafting.

As Toby was stoutly making noises to the effect that such discriminatory action on the part of entities like PP should be illegal and he would push for a change in the law, why not go a step further and lobby for the inalienable right to transact and purchase services using cash? The spectre of a cashless society was invoked by the MP yesterday in the HoC addressing P. Mordaunt.
Small businesses suffer by having to pay over the odds for card machines, rendering small purchases loss-making. Given that financial institutions are the biggest crooks unhung, I don’t see why they are allowed to continue profiteering in this and doubtless other small ways. What the hell is the point of the FCA?

We have unwisely jettisoned many payment methods in the quest for ‘convenience’, and this short-sightedness is now coming to bite us on the bum.

This latest revelation about PP confirms our poor opinion of them. And as I walked past a closed branch of HSBC today, I couldn’t contain a snort at a poster in the window bearing the legend (paraphrased): ” if a financial abuser controls your money, they control you!”

Pots and kettles.

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Hester
Hester
2 years ago

Its very clear the way the current trend is moving, with the increased s–ualisation of children as young as 3 by the state education system, the demonisation of anyone that uses the evidence before their own eyes that there are 2 genders, the trashing of the nuclear family. The blatant rub the nose in it attitude of the likes of Paypal that those who seek to protect children such as Us for them are censored, but those who promote se—l relations with children are protected and promoted by such organisations. How long will it be before these progressive corporations actively come out and seek the removal of the age of consent, and how many I wonder will stand up and defend children? It wasn;t much in evidence during Lockdown when our children suffered the worst of it in order to demonstrate obedience to authorities, I fear that this is the next level of depravity these woke businesses are attempting to normalise.

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Hoppy Uniatz
Hoppy Uniatz
2 years ago

Closed my paypal account yesterday.

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RTSC
RTSC
2 years ago

I’m feeling very disappointed with Paypal. Apparently it’s only possible to close your account once ….. and I did it on Thursday in solidarity with the Free Speech Union, Daily Sceptic and Toby Young.

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WasSteph
WasSteph
2 years ago

I haven’t commented in a long while. Some of the opinions expressed by commenters on here I consider to be somewhat “out there” but the point is, of course, that we are all entitled to express our opinions within the boundaries of the law. Nothing Toby does breaks the law and it’s outrageous that PayPal has cut him off.
On Wednesday I lodged a complaint which was completely ignored as expected. Yesterday I heard that Us For Them has had the same treatment. I closed my PayPal account yesterday evening and was disappointed that they no longer ask why. I assume they got fed up of being told the same thing over and over.
Our little constituency won’t make much of a dent in them but I’m glad to see the message being spread elsewhere so maybe the non critical thinkers will also become aware this has happened. We can only hope.

Last edited 2 years ago by WasSteph
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David101
David101
2 years ago

While it is correct that PayPal are way out of line for banning Gays For Groomers, banned presumably because they oppose woke leftists using the LGBTQIA++QWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNM banner to get away with anything they want, MAP support club doesn’t look like it’s a support group for actual paedophiles. It looks to me more like a support group to help people to overcome their unhealthy attraction to minors. Plus, you’re only a paedophile if you act on this attraction and commit abusive deeds, or support those who do. If it remains purely an attraction then this can be considered more a psychological disorder, an affliction that one must strive to overcome. It doesn’t make you a criminal.

But I may be wrong.

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