Britons should go to work if they have a headache or feel tired – even though both are now officially recognised as Covid symptoms and the public is advised to stay at home if they have Covid symptoms – Health Secretary Sajid Javid said today. MailOnline has more.
Asked whether he would still go to work if he had a headache, Sajid Javid claimed he would “first reach for the Nurofen”. He said it would also depend “how tired I felt”.
Health chiefs last week quietly expanded the list of tell-tale signs of the virus to warn of nine other symptoms. As well warning of headaches and feeling tired, officials also now say that a blocked or runny nose, a loss of appetite and feeling or being sick can signal that someone is infected.
The decision marked a huge change in the Government’s stance on symptoms, after acknowledging only three for the entirety of the pandemic (a fever, cough and loss or change to taste or smell), despite other countries and health bodies including up to 14.
The move coincided with the vast majority of employees in England no longer being able to get any free swabs as part of Boris Johnson’s “Living With Covid” strategy. Experts warned the axing of free tests for all but the most vulnerable – coupled with the expansion of the NHS symptom list – will trigger a “free for all” on staff absences, leaving workers to decide “whether or not they stay at home and for how long”. …
The NHS notes on its website that the now 12 Covid symptoms – which also include an aching body, a sore throat and diarrhoea – are “very similar to symptoms of other illnesses, such as colds and flu”. People experiencing these symptoms, who also have a temperature or don’t feel well enough to work, should “try to stay at home and avoid contact with other people”. They should also take “extra care” to avoid contact with anyone at higher risk from the virus.
The Health Secretary told Sky News: “There are still three major symptoms but it’s right others have been added to give people a bit more information about what may or may not be Covid.” However, just suffering from one or two of the symptoms “doesn’t in itself say that you’ve got Covid” and people should “look out for” the three main symptoms.
The problem of course is that the Government is still ‘advising’ people to take special action not to spread Covid, and many people and employers are still bending over backwards to avoid doing so. But Covid symptoms are, as the NHS now officially acknowledges, largely generic viral symptoms, so without specific tests (which were of questionable reliability in any case) the special guidance for addressing this one virus is impossible to follow.
The truth is, until the Government removes all special treatment of Covid in its guidance, all references to it being a peculiar threat, we will not be able to return to normal, and the chaos among workers and the clamour for funding for the tests that facilitate following the special guidance will continue. The Government only has itself to blame for this, because while it has withdrawn all legal and financial support for treating COVID-19 as a special threat, it has not ceased to treat it as such. The solution is simple: abolish all Covid guidance so that the disease is formally treated as one of no special social concern. But will the Government have the clear-sightedness and backbone to do what is necessary?
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Sorry, I cannot comment on this because I’m living in a parallel universe where the majority are actually capable of that elusive gift called thought.
My condolences.
Ah – I’ve been looking for such a place for the last 20 years. There doesn’t seem to be anywhere like that in the Home Counties…
Tell public sector “workers” to go to work if they have a sniffle? Not likely, the brain dead politicians have given them the mother of all excuses to stay at home, get full pay and pension for the rest of their lives.
Actually, I’d really prefer if people would do that more frequently. I have unfond memories of an obviously sick woman working at the deli counter of a Polish supermarket who kept coughing onto the food she was then handing out to customers (while wearing disposable gloves). Obviously, I, and presumably, most of the other people shopping there, got mildly sick myself afterwards.
This wasn’t the kind of great drama COVID was supposed to become, but unpleasant and – in my opinion – entirely avoidable.
Err not a public sector worker.
Yes. Presumably, the lady went to work because her sick pay is much less generous than that of public sector workers. And that’s something I’d like to see changed in order to avoid situations like the one I described above.
What specific change would you want to see, and who would be paying for it?
Something more like the German system would suggest itself: That’s full pay paid by the employer for up to six weeks, followed by 70% of the before-taxes pay paid for at most another 78 weeks by the employee’s health insurance.
Seems reasonable, as long as we’re clear that every penny of those costs would be passed on to customers.
Surely that’s financially crippling for very small businesses who may still need cover for whatever the job is that the sick person does? Six weeks seems a long time in those circumstances.
It’s a demonstrably workable scheme. There’s probably some sort of insurance cover for that as well (ie, I don’t know, but given the nature of these leeches, I’d be very much surprised if there wasn’t).
Er… if you saw her coofing on the food, why did you make an informed decision to buy and consume it?
Because I wanted to buy something I could only get there and It’s not killing her, it won’t kill me, the usual pre-COVID reasoning for such situations.
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Schwarzwälder Schinken.
Oczywiscie
Totally agree. I used to work with a woman who used to struggle in when she was unwell with a cold etc. She would spend the whole morning stuffing germs far and wide and then go home at lunch and be off for a week
Presumably she just wanted to prove that she really did have a cold in order to justify taking the rest of the week off. In doing so, she was merely conforming to those unwritten pre covid 19 social conventions that most of us used to feel obliged to abide by.
Obviously if you’re dealing directly with food and you have a cough it’s unwise to be anywhere near the food you’re serving. That’s an exception, but in most cases where contamination is not a risk, having a bit a of a cough shouldn’t be a barrier to carrying out your normal duties (depending on the severity of the cough, and very often having a bad cold is a justifiable excuse).
What’s your idea of a bit of a cough? The situation I described was about having coughing fits which were obviously caused by a disease (it’s possibly to hear the difference provided one knows how it feels). I have to side with our right honorourable health secretary here: If you’re basically a periodically erupting droplet geyser, stay at home until you’re again better. That’s very likely also going to speed up the process of recovery.
I don’t know your situation with regard to fully paid sick leave. Won’t they eventually run out of it, and have to go to work or lose pay?
People who are at higher risk from Sars-CoV2 are at higher risk from other usually harmless pathogens as well. And this at higher risk is very much debatable in itself as it really means In the past, members of group X got serious COVID more frequently than the members of group Y. The groups themselves may be more-or-less ill-defined, eg, people over 50 instead of people beyond the average life expectancy with multiple co-morbitities and It happened in the past doesn’t equal It will happen again in future.
It would seem that the triple jabbed are at highest risk of Covid.
Some companies are still busy with the virtue-signalling. I was on a couple of buses today – most windows open, with stickers saying to leave them open to let the air circulate. It was cold, windy and pissing down so the passengers ended up cold and wet. The stickers also encouraged the wearing of face nappies because ‘they make us all happy’, apparently. One bus also had NHS logos and was named ‘Captain Sir Tom’.
Clearly they wanted to keep up with the latest in the virtue-signalling world, and all the buses I saw were proudly wearing blue and yellow hearts stuck on the front beside the destination display.
Perhaps some other buses could be named blood clot and stroke.
“blood clot and stroke” …
Sounds like a duo from the COVID comedy circuit.
Or a cop show.
Captain Sir Tom’s daughter’s charidee rip off would be more apt.
Please excuse me while I vomit!!
Sounds like Javid is talking about trans covid.
Is that allowed to compete alongside ‘colds’ and ‘flu’ or does it need its own category?
Safer to Wait
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Holly shares some of her thoughts about Covid and the vaccine.
We’re told we should all get the jab, we’re told it’s ‘safe & effective’.
The facts tell a different story.
Watch…and think!
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I’ve taken less sick days off during the plandemic than at any other time in my adult life. Out of principle! All triple vaccinated colleagues are constantly off sick like a sad sniffle merry-go-round. I’m determined to be the healthiest employee as it’s common knowledge that I’m one of only 3 untermenschen on the premises!
Yup, my team of mostly much younger colleagues are all proudly triple-tagged, and despite/because of that are constantly “testing positive” then taking another week or so off.
None of them seem to have spotted the pattern, which is doubly ironic as we’re apparently “data scientists”.
Most of the people I work with took time off because they were scared of covid, then took time off to have their vaccines, then took time off to recover from the vaccines, then took time off to look after their children who tested positive, then took time off because they tested positive. Not a single day for me. Maybe I’m the mug!
Your scenario is no doubt a very common one. How about long Covid, many signs of that?
Long covid mainly exists in the public sector. People who only get SSP don’t tend to get it.
Of course it can only mean that you are continuously infecting them. Burn at stake…
Bravo – I applaud you! I hope your employers appreciate you.
Jesus, perusing the COVID symptoms list, I, like, always have 3+ of them ….
I’m surprised they haven’t added:
“saliva in mouth”
“morning irritability”
to the list ( and as a Gooner – for my past sins – I have the later permanently).
Sigh ….. And the wheel of f*cking madness rolls on ….
Anyone who self-identifies as a gooner obviously qualifies for my sympathy (I do know what a gooner is HD – I used to know a few)
A list of COVID symptoms I came accross recently actually included feeling sick.
Being alive is an important symptom. If you are asymptomatic is that respect you definitely do not have Covid.
What about undead spreaders, possibly even of undead COVID? Doesn’t that sound like a scary new variant?
A lot of the symptoms just added to the list sound like the morning after a Downing Street party.
I actually think that they have added the new symptoms to try and reduce absenteeism. By making covid sound like every other winter cold, I think people will find it hard to treat it any differently. When they could all test like mad, they could get the validation of the covid label (even if they had just a runny nose), but now they can’t. The NHS guidelines actually say that you should go to work with any of the new symptoms, unless you also have a fever or feel so unwell that you can’t perform your role. Kind of like before. A bit of a trick maybe (in a positive way)?
And isn’t it interesting the timing of it? they wait until the free testing ends and THEN they introduce the new symptoms which kind of normalise it.
Interesting suggestion. However, it presupposes that skivers are going to actually read beyond what they want to read, i.e. the list of “symptoms”.
Given that Our Holy Church of NHS seems to be falling apart right now due to staff Netflix binging on the slightest pretext, perhaps they could start by preaching it to the choir.
They lied from the start and they keep on lying
They have told so many big lies for so long I don’t think they’d be able to tell the truth even if they wanted to – in fact they have probably buried uncomfortable thoughts about the truth deep inside them
Probably sensible to take a few days rest if you feel unwell, with luck that will spread out the 1000’s of people who will no doubt wish to report their first sneeze to the NHS. This is called heading off a problem, something entirely unfamiliar to the government who seem to prefer mixed messages.
I suggest that employees should be able to decide “whether or not to stay home and for how long” and the employers should be able to decide whether or not to keep them employed and for how long. This approach would make the whole problem disappear rather quickly.
I’m renovating an old house. At the end of each day if have assorted aches and feel pretty tired. Still, I am not going to let Covid stop me!
Same here, but my ache is limited to my neck and left shoulder. Maybe because my project is smaller; am converting a van to a camper. Funny how both these activities have caused COVID, vans are quite different from houses. Perhaps we should have worn the masks, we only have ourselves to blame eh
Question, my van is at ground level, maybe your symptoms are more widespread because you’re working at higher levels on your house? I heard coronavirus is more dangerous the higher up you go, or if you’re standing and so on. What height above sea level are you?
Farce!
It’s going well in China
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPy3aF3LgP4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gzDqBtBuh0
With the 12 covid symptoms – with or without a partridge in a pear tree – one can decide to go, or not to go, to work.
Happy days and the beat goes on…
3 minutes from preparation to job done!!
Everything else you have read, or heard, is totally irrelevant – how simple is that?
Covid Crusher: Mix one heaped teaspoon of Iodine table salt in a mug of warm clean water, cup a hand and sniff or snort the entire mugful up your nose, spitting out anything which comes down into your mouth. If sore, then you have a virus, so continue morning noon and night, or more often if you want, until the soreness goes away (2-3 minutes) then blow out your nose and flush away, washing your hands afterwards, until when you do my simple cure, you don’t have any soreness at all, when you flush – job done. Also swallow a couple of mouthfuls of salt water and if you have burning in your lungs, salt killing virus and pneumonia, there too.
My simple salt water cure, kills all Coronaviruses and viruses, as soon as you think you have an infection, or while self isolating, before the viruses mutate into the disease in your head and body, for which there is no cure – that is, after you have been out shopping, or mixing with people with potentially, Omicron or Delta viruses, or any other virus.
It washes behind the eyes, the brain bulb, brain stem (Long Covid), The Escutcheon Tubes to the inner ears and the top of the throat which is at a point roughly level with half way up your ears and not where your mouth is and down the back of your throat, when sore.
I have been doing this simple cure for over 27 years and I am and others, never sick from viruses and there is no reason why any of you should be either – when your only alternative are those vaccines!!
The vaccinated have been vaccinated and those who have refused the vaccines have not (which includes me): GMO HUMANS
All the Covid-19 “vaccine” patents mention gene deletion. All the patents except one, mention “complimentary DNA” (cDNA). cDNA is a chimeric mRNA cocktail that’s being coded into Human cells using artificial genetic sequences in cross-species genomics.
According to the US Supreme Court ruling in 2013, altering Humans with cDNA makes them patent eligible. The court documents show that cDNA is made using modified bacterium and Supreme Court judges ruled it patent eligible. This means that a plant, animal or Human, could be patented and owned if first genetically modified with cDNA.
Mark Steele summarized it perfectly by stating:
In the US, the Supreme Court has ruled that vaccinated people worldwide are products, patented goods, according to US law, no longer human. Through a modified DNA or RNA vaccination, the mRNA vaccination, the person ceases to be human and becomes the OWNER of the holder of the modified GEN vaccination patent, because they have their own genome and are no longer “human” (without natural people), but “trans-human”, so a category that does not exist in Human Rights. The quality of a natural person and all related rights are lost. This applies worldwide and patents are subject to US law.
Since 2013, all people vaccinated with GM-modified mRNAs are legally trans-human and legally identified as trans-human and do not enjoy any human or other rights of a state, and this applies worldwide, because GEN-POINT technology patents are under US jurisdiction and law, where they were registered.”
See link here: https://ambassadorlove.wordpress.com/2021/12/08/covid-19-patent-horrors/
4) 1,291 Side Effects Pfizer COVID Vaccine Reveals Released Documents March 5, 2022
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My guess, you who have been Covid vaccinated (Gene Therapy) have been suckered: Covid Vaccines are Gene Therapy after giving away millions of Taxpayers Money to expand production of Covid Jabs in the UK
By The Exposé on April 1, 2022
The UK Government has awarded a grant of nearly £16 million of hardworking tax payers money to a Chemical producing giant, under the premise that they will significantly increase production capacity of lipids which are an essential component in Covid-19 vaccines. But in doing so, the Government has been forced to admit that the Covid-19 injections are in fact gene therapy.
My advice to you vaccinated, is, live each day as it it is your last and wait and see if you live to the age of 65 or older
Ep44 DON’T Ask about the V’zine
This week MP Chris Chope & his question about vaccination in the house of commons.
Progress in Ukraine.
We analyse GOV debt and what that means to the average UK citizen.
Plus some lovely ‘songs’
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Go to work on an egg and do the shake and vac and put the freshness back.
When you say “government” who are you talking about. They all seem to have disappeared. Anyone else notice? Let’s see, transportation via airplanes at airports in a mess, ferries grounded leaving travellers and truckers stranded on the M20, fuel costs skyrocketing and not a word from the TRANSPORTATION Secretary. It is like he well, disappeared. Anyone seen him.
Then we have a “crisis” in Ukraine/Russia where britain gets some of its fuel and wheat from. Anyone seen the prime minister lately? Sort of disappeared with the transport Secretary.
Finally, covid cases going through the roof. Anyone seen the health Secretary lately, he seems to have disappeared as well.
Anyone else just a little concerned with the “intentional chaos” brought to you by your well paid “government”?
Grant Shapps is probably on a ski slope.
This article treats the whole affair far too seriously. Basically, the government is taking the piss.
To be fair if anyone with symptoms of a cold or flu was to stay away from work the incidence of these would drop. Many was the time that I or my outpatient staff caught a cold from a routine patient who kept their appointment despite coughing and sneezing everywhere. However – if you want to be sure that your symptoms are really due to SARS-CoV-2 and not some other harmless bug then you need to do a lateral flow test – which is the perfect reason for continuing to supply them free.
except they are not free – the taxpayer pays for them. Sorry. And they were costing a fortune. We just need to move on. Covid is done.
In the long term, it might be interesting to see if there is a change in attitude to employees health records to do with taking time off sick and so on. Historically, if one took too much time off sick it would not look if applying for promotion, e.g.
If I’d taken time off work every time I was “very tired” or had a headache, I’d have been told to get on my bike long ago!
“But will the Government have the clear-sightedness and backbone to do what is necessary?”
I was going to say three guesses but I think only one is necessary.
So how do you tell covid from any other viral infection? And why should you pay it any more attention than said cold? And why are they still producing daily bulletins? Surely we xhould have figures for the number who have died through not being treated in time, those who have missed treatments through the insane concentration on covid etc?