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Vallance: Covid Measures Should Remain in Place Forever in Case We Need to “Ramp Things Up Again”

by Will Jones
30 March 2022 3:15 PM

The Government’s Chief Scientific Adviser Sir Patrick Vallance has warned that Covid is “evolving rapidly,” adding that measures should remain in place indefinitely to be able to “ramp things up again” if needed. The Express has more.

Sir Patrick was speaking to the Science and Technology Committee this morning following a steep rise in Covid cases. Quizzed on the Government’s “Living With Covid” plan, Sir Patrick was asked how important advice from SAGE was in the proposals. The expert confirmed that SAGE “clearly” played a big part, before adding his own remarks on the current situation.

He said: “This virus has not gone away. It’s not going to go away. It’s going to be a circulating human virus for as long as we can see forward. And it hasn’t stopped evolving. It’s been quite an unstable period, so the virus is changing very rapidly, and it’s got quite a lot of space to evolve into. It’s not a foregone conclusion that evolution to increase growth and transmission – which is what the virus does, wants to do – necessarily is associated with reduced severity.”

Sir Vallance also noted that three things were essential to adopting a living-with-Covid approach: being able to monitor how it evolves; to protect the vulnerable both physically and through vaccines and antivirals; and having the capacity to be “able operationally to ramp things up again if you need to — [this] is crucially important.”

He added: “That in a sense, is also a lesson from the very beginning of the pandemic where the underfunding of Public Health England for many years had caused a diminution in capacity.”

However, the scientist added: “I think the numbers of infections are beginning to turn so we may be quite close to, or at the peak, and it may start coming down shortly. But I expect to see further hospitalisations because of the lag time and further deaths with this. So, that is the consequence of the high levels of infection rates. We should also be aware that there may well be long term problems with Covid infection – Long Covid is still being studied. It’s not a sort of a completely stable situation and it’s not a risk-free situation to run very high levels of infection.”

Hasn’t SAGE been stepped down? When will they leave us alone?

I wonder if the Government has considered finding a less alarmist Chief Scientist.

Worth reading in full.

Tags: Covid RestrictionsCOVID-19LockdownsSir Patrick Vallance

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vargas99
vargas99
3 years ago

the tw*t obviously feels like he hasn’t made enough money out of his pharma shareholding

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itoldyouiwasill
itoldyouiwasill
3 years ago
Reply to  vargas99

With people like this, the levels of greed know no bounds. Utterly without ethics, integrity or morality.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  itoldyouiwasill

He embodies the morality of altruism.

Not the altruism nearly everyone thinks altruism is, not kindness or benevolence, but the morality of sacrifice, living for others with him being the collector of sacrifices.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

….and money of course.

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olaffreya
olaffreya
3 years ago
Reply to  itoldyouiwasill

Agree – what credit science has left this man discredits. Clearly an individual incapable of learning and the embodiment of the infliction of gross stupidity that has wreaked so much damage and harm to this country.

Last edited 3 years ago by olaffreya
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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  olaffreya

Yeadon called him an outright liar and challenged him to sue …he never did.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Well there is no sense in giving Yeadon any publicity.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Your handlers must be paying you well, tonight, tree.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Not from your point of view.

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

You back again???? I thought we had got shot of you.

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conocido en valenciana
conocido en valenciana
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Why not?

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Does your name give an indication of your IQ?

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watersider
watersider
3 years ago
Reply to  olaffreya

Well Olaffreya,
‘you ain’t seennuffinyet’ wait until we get hit with the full cost of the so called scientists pushing the global warming fraud. In fact it kicks infromtomorrow with a 50% increase in your electricity bills.
This imposter is small beer compared to them.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  itoldyouiwasill

So a friend of Davos, Big Pharma, Big Tech an dGlobal Media then? ( not to mention GAVI and the WHO)

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  vargas99

No, this isn’t about enriching himself, this is about him being Doctator, follow the ideas, not the money.

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

Why not follow both? He is one who can have his cake and eat it too.

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thirts
thirts
3 years ago
Reply to  vargas99

The main people to blame are the MSM, Governement and the lack of opposition, big tech big Pharma and Ferguson. Whitless and Co were asked for their medical advice only in containing the virus. It was up to the useless Governement and Opposition to consider that advice and balance it against outcomes, which they complety failed to do. Boris, and the Governement, gave in to the hysteria pumped up by the MSM.

If a Motor Manufacturer employed someone to give their advice to make the safest car possible, they woud consider that advise against the cost of production, how efficient it would be, would the public buy it etc. They wouldn’t just make it and financially ruin the company because it was too expensive and no one would buy it. In effect that it was the Governemnt did.

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago
Reply to  thirts

You’ve got that arse-about-face.

The Government pumped up the MSM to the tune of £1B worth of advertising, to spread the hysteria.

And your ‘Motor Manufacturer’ analogy is pants.

People aren’t coerced to buy a car to save Granny. People don’t lose their jobs because they haven’t bought a car, or the ‘right’ car. Car manufacturers are not granted indemnity if their product proves faulty and causes deaths.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  thirts

Sorry you used it too many times and got it wrong every one of them for me to let it go uncorrected

It is ‘government’

I’ve just had to watch Vallance on TV and it has put me in very bad form

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watersider
watersider
3 years ago
Reply to  thirts

Have you looked at the Skalectric car scam?

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  vargas99

New NZ doctor’s research of the ‘vaccine’ under magnification confirming previous research showing and Vallance’s jab to have very strange things going on involving graphene oxide and bewildering rectangular shapes – the suggestion is that they might even respond to 5G radiation – well well, who could have guessed ?

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Your making stuff up is not very convincing.

Last edited 3 years ago by Stop believing start thinking
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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Can trees do research?

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morganlefey
morganlefey
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

These are alarming findings, but both the NZ group (and La Quinta Columna in Spain) need to address the possibility these strange things could have been deliberately added to the vials of covid vaccine selected for examination in order to attempt to make these most excellent researchers appear to be fantasists.

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itoldyouiwasill
itoldyouiwasill
3 years ago

Remind us again of this guy’s shareholding in the pharma sector? 600k was it? Also worth remembering he wanted to keep Sage membership anonymous at the start of all this.
Seriously, how is he a SIR?? He is a complete and utter disgrace to modern politics who should be behind bars for the unquantifiable damage he has helped heap on our society.
Makes my blood boil, seriously.

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago
Reply to  itoldyouiwasill

You answered your own question!

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  itoldyouiwasill

The astonishing thing is that we’ve accepted a situation where it’s just fine to be owned lock, stock and barrel by the industry that you’re shilling for as long as you don’t deny it.

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  itoldyouiwasill

He is a “sir” because the job came with a knighthood guaranteed. That was the deal GSK got him when they fired him for incompetence as head of R&D. That is how it works, to make it all look nicey-nicey.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Yes, like Sit Keir, Sir Blair, Sir Whitty and Sir Gavin – “Sir” is obviously now reserved for manifest displays of incompetence and craven self-serving.

Still, it helps us plebs identify our ‘betters’, doesn’t it Johnson?

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

or people who know where the bodies are buried and you want to buy their silence

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
3 years ago
Reply to  itoldyouiwasill

Sir Patrick Vallance. Lol.
Do you think he was lying or mistaken when he gravely told the MSM that covid was novel and dangerous because even those who recovered from the virus had waning antibody levels after just a few weeks?
Thus setting us up nicely to hail the only way to salvation – the new mRNA jabs.
This to enable the imposition of digital ID on us through fear as ordered by his masters.

May he and they rot in Hell forever.
What has and is still being done is beyond evil – and he’s a big part of it.
He knows, or should know that the jabs are toxic – yet we still keep jabbing away.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

Why evil?
What is “beyond evil”
What is “Hell”.. do you believe all that Garbage too?

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  itoldyouiwasill

“Sir” came before Covid – he will be getting his “booster” to “Sir, Sir” next!
(Only saline of course)

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thinkcriticall
thinkcriticall
3 years ago

These useless fools have learn’t nothing. They must be removed from any position of authority.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

They must. For the simple reason that he, and Whitty and the rest of them have failed miserably in the advice they have given the government.

If their job is to advise the government for the overall benefit of society, then they have failed catastrophically and seem incapable of learning from their mistakes.

Their approach has been one dimensional, they have failed to consider the people’s welfare in a broader sense and remain obsessed with a narrow set of objectives which do not represent the welfare of society as a whole.

They need to go and replaced with scientific and medical advisers that demonstrate an ability to consider what is good for people as a whole.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

On the contrary they have worked their given ‘max mass vax’ brief from the UN the Gates WHO and Davos to perfection!

Jus look at the results!

Innocent five year olds up for those spike proteins next!

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

They weren’t there to ”learn”. They’re just someone’s useful idiots.

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HaylingDave
HaylingDave
3 years ago

Oh just f**k off! Seriously! We’re done with you Vallance, you’ve outlived your iota of (mostly “self”) importance. Crawl off and fester.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  HaylingDave

Self-importance is the key adjective. He believes that self-importance is the same as actual importance.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  HaylingDave

Does it make you feel better to hurl abuse at a stranger?

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Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

If only Vallance was a stranger, but he’s the very familiar face of what can only be said is an abusive Government.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

You shouldn’t have voted them in.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

How do you know who Beowulf voted for?

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

He isn’t a stranger when he has not only forced himself into our lives, but urged us all to shoot up with untested crap.

He is very strange, though. So are you, tree.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

If only it wasn’t for all the extensive testing.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

If your definition of strange is “doesn’t agree with you”, then that’s the vast majority of all people.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

By stranger, you mean malevolent doctator

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czerwonadupa
czerwonadupa
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

Yes, like John Bodkin Adams(those too young can look him up in Wikipedia)

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
3 years ago
Reply to  HaylingDave

We can but live in hope.

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Jo Starlin
Jo Starlin
3 years ago

Profanity and abuse are readily available in my lounge right now.

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beancounter
beancounter
3 years ago
Reply to  Jo Starlin

The air is blue in my office. Profanity is an understatement.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Jo Starlin

Get a grip.. control yourself.

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Jo Starlin
Jo Starlin
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Piss off, twat.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Jo Starlin

Well argued.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

You are in no position to comment upon the quality of other people’s arguments.

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JohnMcCarthy
JohnMcCarthy
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

From somebody who simply makes fatuous comments! Irony in its absolute form.

Last edited 3 years ago by JohnMcCarthy
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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago

This piece of filth is nothing more than a criminal evading justice.

For the time being.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

Astonishing level of venom expressed for someone, who is only considering public health measures.

How do you generate such hatred?

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Astonishing level of venom…

Have you lead a sheltered life?

[He] is only considering public health measures.

If that were the case he would have considered the raft of public health and other issues which necessarily followed as a direct result of the interventions he not only supported but recommended.

Given his position, he cannot claim ignorance. He is evil.

How do you generate such hatred?

Drop the act, sausage.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Mediaeval superstition is not science, Vallance is a combination of Trofim Lysenko and the Piltdown man hoaxer.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

The slander suit should be coming your way.

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

You know nothing

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Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

He’s certainly no tree of knowledge.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Good to see you trying an insult, based in fact.

Problem is you failed on the fact element. Since I know my age for example, I must know something.

So you are 100% wrong.

Have another go at facts.

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Behave yourself, lackey.

I’d happily – and easily – defend my statements. This criminal wouldn’t voluntarily put himself in such a position, not for all the shares in Pfizer.

Last edited 3 years ago by Moderate Radical
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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

What are your specific allegations of crime?

Or did you just learn the script from your peers?

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

For a start, Vallance has been involved in:

• the deliberate sacrifice of countless lives ostensibly to save an unspecified number of other lives

• the arbitrary decree that the suffering/dying be deprived of contact with their loved ones, who were forced to ‘watch’ from afar (or outside of a window) as their dear loved ones suffered and died alone

• the prioritisation of a virus with a stastically insignificant IFR to the extent that hospitals cancelled vital cancer treatments, critical operations, regular screenings/check-ups, etc

• the decree that only a certain number of people could attend funerals, with ‘distancing’ rules being in place where loved ones could not even console one another during the funeral of a dear family member/friend

• the act of forcing people, healthy or otherwise, to stay in their homes, forbidding them from seeing their friends and loved ones and from gathering together to worship God as Christians are commanded to do

• the decree that people wear face coverings

• the ruining of people’s livelihoods/ability to earn a living

• the ruining of nearly two years of children’s education (thus rendering this two years of lost education), depriving them of normal, healthy human interaction with teachers and peers

• inflicting a propaganda war on the people, shaming them into compliance, arresting/fining them for non-compliance

• the act of hypnotising the masses through propaganda, to the point where citizen has been pitted against citizen, and the police everywhere have steamed into citizens and lashed out for ‘transgressions’ such as not wearing a face covering or ‘being in the wrong place’, logic, ethics, exemption status be damned

That’s a start. Every one of these acts was unlawful. Government acted outside of its sphere of authority, is guilty of heinous crimes against its people, and Vallance played a leading role in all of it.

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watersider
watersider
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

Thank you Moderate for that.
I must bookmark that if you don’t mind.

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  watersider

Not at all.

I am slightly puzzled, though, because below you ask me to ‘stop responding to [tree] and discuss the real issues.’ As you know, these are the real issues, so I’m not sure what you’re taking issue with here.

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simon1
simon1
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

Hear, hear

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eastender53
eastender53
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Malfeasance in Public Office. Blatant. One example, displaying a chart which was known to be out of date.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

So would you use your reasoning to defend your statements, or some other way?

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

What are you banging on about, lackey?

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

Be kind, MR. I think tree is trying to “reason”. That’s a doozy of a sentence we’ve just been given!

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watersider
watersider
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

I come on this wonderful site to learn and in my own puny way to contribute.
Instead I find a constant tirade against an adolescent disseminator who should be ignored.
Please stop responding to the poor sad creature and discuss the real issues.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago

Vallance should stay in prison forever, in case he wants to ramp up anything ever again.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

There should definitely be some measures in place which can be ramped up quickly in case he seems to be getting another “Everybody urgently must …!” fit. Straitjacket and padded cell until he stop ranting would suggest itself. Less humane methods might be more fun, though. 🙂

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watersider
watersider
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

On a serious note, did any of our paid for MP’s question this guy on our behalf?

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Yes, if the prison is Michael Moore’s underpants.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Quite pathetic…

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Yes, you are. Is this only dawning on you now?

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eastender53
eastender53
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Finally. Some self insight.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Try to make sense.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

If only you would, tree. At the slightest challenge, you are reduced to schoolchild responses (though that is insulting to most schoolchildren), or you wander off into “sentences” that are marvels of internal confusion.

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TheGreenAcres
TheGreenAcres
3 years ago

Person who suffered no financial hardship in the slightest from the measures he advocated, thinks we should keep them around. Well, knock me down with a feather.

My advice would be to get out into the real world and talk to normal people, perhaps even some people who happen to run their own businesses. Although he might want to ensure he has adequate personal security protection in place before he does so.

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A Heretic
A Heretic
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

I think what you meant to say was

Person who profited immensely from the measures he advocated thinks we should keep them around

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

Talking to normal people would be good for the inhabitants of this site. Remember, through talking to your own kind with vile drivel, you don’t get exposure to normal people.

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vargas99
vargas99
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

please feel free to foxtrot oscar

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Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Would you describe yourself as normal?

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Oh God – I do hope not!

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

If it bothers you that much being here, you are more than welcome to take a hike.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  TSull

Who would educate you lot?

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

My advice would be to get out into the real world and talk to normal people, perhaps even some people who happen to run their own businesses. 

And to those normal people who just want to run their own lives!

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Sorry TGA – meant to bold your excellent quote!

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago

Meanwhile, Australian Senator Malcolm Roberts tells it like it is

https://twitter.com/seancondev/status/1509019954712301570

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thinkcriticall
thinkcriticall
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

Note that the chamber was virtually empty. They simply do not want to address reality.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

Reality will soon be addressing them.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

It’s a nice thought, but when do you imagine that will happen?

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

And they can plausibly claim to have never heard about a single person injured or killed by the clot-shots.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

But neither have the BBC watching sheepie in masks !

Last edited 3 years ago by David Beaton
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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

But with all the deaf ears and silent tongues it is still now a matter of parliamentary record.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

They will probably arrest him fo ‘re-education’ soon. Holland and France are now arresting medics and lawyers ( young lawyer telling truth to power charged with ‘treason’!) who call out the scam.

EU heading for the full Nazi under ‘citizen of the world’ UVDL it seems!

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Not surprising with that toxic bitch at the helm.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

Well said that man, bet he is preaching to the corrupt!

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

Senator Roberts was not highly regarded two years ago. Nor were Craig Kelly or George Christensen. Many people dismissed them, or (as I did) rolled their eyes at things they said.

There are still issue on which I would disagree with all three. But they have spoken up clearly and reasonably on the greatest issue we have before us as Australians, when it took courage to do so.

I doubt they will be dismissed so easily again.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

still issues (slack keyboarding) …

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Phil Shannon
Phil Shannon
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Yes, I, too, had joined in the cognoscenti’s mockery and derisive horse-laughter towards the likes of Kelly, Christensen, Palmer, Roberts, Hanson (they came from a political end of the spectrum that I, as an old lefty, did not inhabit) but they have won my respect (and vote!) for their principled stance on the Covid hysteria and vaxx mania.

If there is one good thing to come out of Covid it is my growing appreciation for the intellectual worth and personal integrity of people from diverse ideological traditions. Call it a developing political maturity.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

I’ve had the same experience. It started well over a decade ago, when I was invited to a “left-faction” ALP meeting by some friends.

I was astonished by what was said to the general satisfaction of those present (accepted without discussion), as I embarrassed my friends by gasping and occasionally muttering, “What!!”. That was “left”?!

That learning curve, and it’s about exactly what you beautifully described – “the intellectual worth and personal integrity of people from diverse ideological traditions” – has shot dramatically skyward since March 2020.

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JeremyP99
JeremyP99
3 years ago

The Totalitarian Wet Dream

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Dodgy Geezer
Dodgy Geezer
3 years ago

Looking for a job for life here….

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Hopeless - "TN,BN"
Hopeless - "TN,BN"
3 years ago

Once you’ve given a dog a nice, juicy, profitable bone, it’s a hell of a job to get it off him.

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Tee Ell
Tee Ell
3 years ago

Die painfully you absolute cretin.

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Old Maid
Old Maid
3 years ago

I love how the Express disses him by calling him (according to this piece) Sir Vallance. Lol.

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago

That’s fine, as long as the cost of keeping the measures in place is deducted from his fat salary, share holdings and pension pot

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago

We haven’t needed SAGE-like morons in the past hundred years (or was it “ever before throughout entire human history”?), but obviously with a virus as dangerous as Omicron lurking around we are going to need them for the next hundred years looking forward. Because there’s still lots of money to be made from it.

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago

Compliance is now my middle name, they can absolutely without a shadow of doubt, totally and utterly rely on me, I will bend over backwards to assist, please, please can I have higher hurdles to jump over next time. Really looking to complying again, think I shall leave the mask on just in case. The last two year campaign to fight a virus with weapons which only fired blanks or blew up in your face was a truly masterful stroke, along with all the other ineffective counter measures, we were so lucky and we still have millions of blank rounds left over. Planning ahead, what a brilliant idea.

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago

This is what we call “moral hazard” – when you reward the robber for robbing you or let him get away without consequences, he will happily come back for more.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Yup, SAGE and the WHO are in the emergency/pandemic business – he’s just talking his book. When I point this out to ronatards they think I’m bonkers – as if scientists and doctors were all Jesus Christ Almighty, incapable of anything but honest altruism.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I too have this problem. Explaining to people the most useful lens to analyse things with is self interest.

Most people have the intellectual skills of adolescents. It is inconceivable to them people in positions of authority could be acting out of self interest, groupthink or even just lack of interest.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Except that people I talk to are well aware that leaders are often corrupt, they just can’t being themselves to believe that they have all been telling huge whopping lies from the start

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I have found that those who conformed to the narrative most religiously are also those who would be the first to tell you that all politicians are a bunch of corrupt barstewards.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  TSull

And did you notice that the woke types, who normally assume any Tory politician is lying on every occasion, suddenly started believing every word when it related to Coronabollox? Truly bizarre!

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caipirinha17
caipirinha17
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

We’re now firmly in confirmation bias territory – the minds of conformists won’t allow them to have been wrong, due to sunk cost fallacy and that they have inadvertently supported a narrative than has and will kill/harm millions more that the lurgy.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yes – they firmly believe in petty corruption. But grand-scale dishonesty seems to frighten them, or intimidate them. They don’t want to look at it.

I understand this. I preferred to believe in stupidity – and did so in the early months of 2020. It was genuinely horrifying to discover that stupidity (or panic) could not explain it all.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Altruism is the morality of death and he embodies it.

All must sacrifice for all and, by implication, he and his clique will collect.

Bruce

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

Altruism for thee but not for me

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Of course, all animals are equal, but the brainworkers need milk and apples to be able to serve efficiently.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

The hypocrisy is irrelevant. If altruism is a virtue, if sacrifice is a virtue, it stands to reason there is a collector of sacrifices.

https://charlescrawford.biz/2017/06/04/slaves-and-whips/

“Yet the test should be so simple: just listen to any prophet and if you hear him speak of sacrifice – run. Run faster than from a plague. It stands to reason that where there’s sacrifice, there’s someone collecting sacrificial offerings. Where there’s service, there’s someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice, speaks of slaves and masters. And intends to be the master.”

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

Maybe. People cleverer than I have said wise things about whether altruism exists, but I don’t necessarily think it follows that there is always a “collector of sacrifices”. Anyway, these days when people start on about “I did it for others” and then defend forcing ME to do stuff for others, I smell bullshit.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

The sacrifice collector knows to stay around they need to be stealthy.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

It does follow that, where there are sacrifices, it stands to reason there is a collector of sacrifices, they don’t just vanish into the ether.

Altruism is precisely why they force you to live for others

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

The question is, who is at fault here, Vallance who responds coherently to the incentives he’s given or those who employ him and reward him?

As I see it, he’s despicable for his narrow and probably corrupt interest.
But the government needs to replace him for an adviser who isn’t only obsessed with COVID and exaggerates the importance of the effects the coronavirus (the virus, not the measures) has on society.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Why would they do that? It is useful for a government that wants to keep covid open as an option to have a mouthpiece keeping the narrative alive.

When they ramp it all back up in Autumn, this time with mandatory jabs, he’ll have earned his keep.

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

As far as I’m concerned, the blame is on the ones who allow the moral hazard to take place. It is in the nature of a thief to steal, just as it is in nature of predator to attack its prey. But if you know this and act as if you don’t care, you are complicit and enabling the crime, and this makes you arguably worse than the actual criminal.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I’ve often wondered why they don’t put him back in his box, and whose hand is up whose backside. We may never know and they can all go to blazes.

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RW
RW
3 years ago

There has been no steep rise in COVID cases. There has been a very moderate increase in the number of reported positive test results which (as of yesterday) has already peaked or is at least using steam rapidly, ie, the natural trend ATM is clearly downward and has been for a while. Whether or not the ex-SAGEs and their accomplices can still manufacture something dramatic until their test funding dries up on Friday remains to be seen.

In the light of this, Vallance boilerplate mouth fart is probably supposed to help with preventing that from actually happening.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

And results scale with testing, not infection. We’re in the vinegar strokes of the final testgasm where every public sector and salaried skiver is trying for one last week of “free” Netflix binging.

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Here’s a funny thing.

All through last autumn and winter, my local authority kept its bin collection going. We have 3 bins, one for general waste, one for recycling, and one for garden waste (for which you have to pay an additional fee).

Over the past 2-3 weeks, the weather has been very pleasant in my area, with some lovely warm days and blue skies. Last week was especially good. And blow me! The unlucky bin men have only been struck down by a mass outbreak of covid! So much so that the local authority has had to suspend the garden waste service until they can get their collection teams back to full strength. So despite people paying to use this service, they can’t have it, because, you know, covid.

How unfortunate is that??

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

But if their hurty throats stop them from yelling profanities at the top of their voices at 6am, what’s the point?

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

The “New Normal”?

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

Numbers for today are here now. Describing this as steep rise in infections and qualifying it with I think the numbers of infections are beginning to turn so we may be quite close to, or at the peak, and it may start coming down shortly is clearly inappropriate. Isn’t lying in office some sort of misconduct?

ATM, this trend is also accelerating, ie the speed of the decrease is increasing.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

I thought Johnson had dealt successfully with “lying in office” by mandating it?

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

Based on what data?

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

More specifcally, on the JSON files available for download there plus some Perl scripts I wrote for analysing it. The graphic above is basically identical to the 7-day-moving-average the government publishes itself. I just didn’t divide the moving 7-day-sum by 7 as that seems rather pointless.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

Thanks. I am sure tree will accuse you of some witchcraft.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Oi, it’s OK to ask. It’s always OK to ask.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

Only in his world could existing like this be seen as acceptable, it certainly isin’t living. When will he be put back in his box, funding for pharma is not all there is to life. Another time these lot would have just looked like your average crook.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Averagae crooks working for a Global Mafia!

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Star
Star
3 years ago

Scotland: first minister and nationalist party leader Nicola Sturgeon declared this afternoon that she will delay the scrapping of the mask law – which mandates the wearing of face rags on public transport and in shops – a second time. It will now stay in force until at least 18 April. Oh wait – it will be lifted for funerals, weddings, and “civil partnerships” on 4 April.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

Jesus wept.

And Kween Krankie still remains unchallenged over the simple issue that if muzzles did a damn thing, they why does the only muzzled part of the UK have the highest number of “cases”?

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago

Authoritarian cnut!

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Scottish Narcissistic Prats

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Mike Oxlong
Mike Oxlong
3 years ago

Another one who needs hanging by his balls and beaten to death with a baseball bat.

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Oxlong

Piñata.

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Mike Oxlong
Mike Oxlong
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Hang him from his pinata too! 🙂

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Oxlong

He hasn’t got any balls.

A honey badger would starve to death in his underpants.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Oxlong

How kind you are.
Hate anyone else?
How do you have in real life?

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

How do you have in real life?

Can you attempt that one again, only this time try it in English?

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

There’s a lot of ‘tough talk’ on this site but no-one actually has the gumption to nip round to Nottingham University and ‘deal’ with Vallance.
Wait for the “You first!” comment!

If Vallance has committed ‘crimes’ then surely it’s only a matter of time before one of the ‘Common Law Constables’ of the Guardians300 arrests him.
Perhaps even today?

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago

FFS… Who elected this bully?

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

He is not a bully. He is a member of the establishment. He understands his role is to promote the narrative.

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brachiopod
brachiopod
3 years ago

“It’s been quite an unstable period, so the virus is changing very rapidly,”

Not only is this exactly what virologists warned against – see Geert vanden Bossche – but the busy little ‘gain of function’ lunatics have been busily mutating/selecting variants since mid 2020.

Sort out your friends who caused and are still causing this ongoing medical disaster first Vallance, before inflicting more useless damage on society and the economy we rely on to pay your damned remuneration.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago

Well, he would say that wouldn’t he? I hope I live long enough to see his reputation shredded (though I am not confident!).

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

Pure evil, a tyrant

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Why do you say evil?

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beancounter
beancounter
3 years ago

“underfunding of Public Health England for many years”

What planet does this person inhabit? How much more money does the NHS require How many more offshoots of it are there going to be? Why did we not use the pandemic preparedness plan that has been sitting on the shelf for some years? Of course, stupid me; it didn’t include clauses stating that we, as a nation or government, must rip-off the population and transfer corrupt contracts to our friends in Big Pharma. What a disgrace to the UK this person is; a corrupt trougher whose greed know no bounds.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  beancounter

health is individual not public. His organisation the NHS subsidises poor lifestyle choices by fining people for work.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago

Chief Piltdown Man hoaxer and Doctator, you mean.

This is a primitive voodoo cultist masquerading woefully as a scientist.

This is a moron who said he was eating less meat because ‘climate change’ as if he or anyone else can control the Earth’s climate.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

He is a member of the establishment. He is doing his job. He is maintaining the narrative. He’s good at it, and to the average person he is an authority on the subject.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

With some really hard work, you could get up to the level of an average person.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Can you ask your supervisor if you can be replaced by a troll lacking anencephaly?

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Tiberius
Tiberius
3 years ago

Words fail me. So I’ll just stick to one.

Wanchor.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Tiberius

Well words are a bit tricky..keep trying.

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Hopeless - "TN,BN"
Hopeless - "TN,BN"
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

So is punctuation, but I expect you’ll get the hang of it.

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brachiopod
brachiopod
3 years ago

Can someone please ask Vallance why he acquiesced to the junking of the 2019 WHO pandemic protocols.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  brachiopod

Money?

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MikeHaseler
MikeHaseler
3 years ago

Basically the same argument as: “Anyone related to a criminal should be locked up in case they ever commit a crime”. Yes, if you focus on one small aspect of policy and have zero regard for human rights, you can make a case for locking up innocent people like Vallance, but no sane, intelligent, moral person would make that case and neither should Vallance.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago

My entire thoughts: “”

(This post is fully compliant with the Online Safety Bill, and Daily Sceptic’s profanity-and-abuse rules)

Last edited 3 years ago by Rogerborg
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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Well if that is your entire thought process give up.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Oh, I processed many more. It’s a question of what’s permitted to be said.

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James Kreis
James Kreis
3 years ago

“We Say No”. Take it away Nate.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zvHKd5qTMYo

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

We need to be kept safe from coerceophiles like Vallance not a relatively harmless virus.

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B.F.Finlayson
B.F.Finlayson
3 years ago

Sir Vallance…

Surely it’s Sir Vaxxalot?

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

I like big gov and I cannot lie
You other brothers can’t deny
That when a bug walks in and there’s tax to waste
And a mask thing on your face
You get sprung, want to pull up tough
‘Cause you noticed that arm was stuffed
Deep in the veins she’s clotting
I’m hooked up and I can’t stop staring
Oh baby, I wanna get wit’cha
And take your future
The public tried to warn me
But that baksheesh you got makes (me, me so horny)

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B.F.Finlayson
B.F.Finlayson
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

You’ll need Sir Vaxxalot’s minstrel to do it justice!
“A one, a two, and away we go…”

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

He looks demented

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Nymeria
Nymeria
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

That’s because he is.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

Where is your objective reasoning?

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

You are not the person to raise any questions about either objectivity or reasoning.

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Crissylis
Crissylis
3 years ago

Utter wickedness. How these people show themselves in their true light.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Crissylis

Why do you say wicked?

Please explain, with some reasoning.

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

The measures he supports have been shown to have no effect on the trivial diseases caused by the virus.

But they have been shown to inflict enormous damage on the population.

Therefore anybody supporting them is, at best, desperately thick.

But more likely utterly corrupt in every possible way

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

So what are your corruption allegations? Specifically?

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DJ Dod
DJ Dod
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

I assume that ‘corruption’ is shorthand for ‘conflict of interest’ in this case:

‘For example, it was reported that Patrick Vallance, the government’s chief scientific adviser and head of its Vaccine Taskforce, had £600,000 worth of shares in GlaxoSmithKline, after the company signed a coronavirus vaccine deal with the government for an undisclosed sum.’

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/conflicts-of-interest-among-the-uk-governments-covid-19-advisers-are-not-transparent/

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  DJ Dod

And tree falls silent. If a tree falls in the forest …?

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago

This paid-up political puppet is mouthpiecing the future of pandemic preparedness. Check out today’s edition of UK Column, the last 20 minutes or so. They can explain it so much better but the WHO are putting in place with the UN a treaty that all countries signed up to this, will be forced to comply, on a global scale, immediately there is a perceived threat of another “pandemic” It’s bloody evil, and these Muppets in government, along with everyone else that has been going along with all this, to the destruction of the people and the country, are either totally thick or full-on psychopathic enablers. My money is on the second.

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brachiopod
brachiopod
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

But it isn’t the WHO is it.

He who pays the piper calls the tune, and the tune is ‘The Euthanasia Rag’ – look up the antecedents of the major funders and their belief that most of us, when of no further use, shouldn’t even be allowed to continue the piss-poor existence we ‘enjoyed’ while ‘contributing’ to their wealth.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  brachiopod

Oh, I’m fully aware of the bigger “network”!

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Tenchy
Tenchy
3 years ago

To get a feel for what these buggers are about, see this:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/30/uk-near-record-covid-cases-three-myths-omicron-pandemic

Within the article there’s a link to a report from so-called ‘Independent SAGE’. Here’s the linked document:

https://www.independentsage.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Learning-to-live-with-COVID-in-2022-Final-draft-250322.pdf

Note especially this comment in the document:

We urgently need: . . . .

Normalised wearing of freely available FFP2 masks in high risk environments such as 
on public transport and in healthcare settings and shops, and in schools and other 
shared public spaces when community levels of COVID-19 are high.

“Normalised wearing” eh! So they want face nappies permanently!

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  Tenchy

“And in schools”…haven’t the kids suffered enough under this cabal.

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iandel
iandel
3 years ago

He is obviously promoting the zero covid message

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Hopeless - "TN,BN"
Hopeless - "TN,BN"
3 years ago
Reply to  iandel

I shall therefore promote the “Zero-Vallance” message.

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David101
David101
3 years ago

This is wishy-washy language, vague and imprecise. “…it’s got a lot of ‘space’ to evolve into”? “Operationally ramp things up”? “…not a sort of completely stable situation”. It’s as I’ve previously commented, an attempt at justification by twisting language. When can any situation be said to be “completely stable”, especially concerning something like a virus? “Operationally ramp things up” is about as ill-defined as your average fart in the wind.

Those arguing in favour of the precautionary principle at the cost of all else do not have a leg to stand on, so resort to meaningless rhetoric such as this. When does a virus not have a lot of “space to evolve into”? However this vacuous use of language at least shows that the concept of virus suppression through “covid measures” is a crumbling edifice being feebly upheld by a few rapidly faltering arguments.

And I don’t think it’s worth reading in full.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  David101

most definitely not worth reading at all!

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CoronanationStreet
CoronanationStreet
3 years ago

It almost sounds like they want the virus to continue for as long as possible so as to maintain the need for “restrictions”.

Surely no one actually interested in public health would want that though.

Would they?

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  CoronanationStreet

They just won’t leave us alone, will they?

And the worst of it is, lots and lots of people would go along with it.

Depressing.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  CoronanationStreet

I’m starting to come around to the opinion that perhaps this was nothing to do with health?

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Nymeria
Nymeria
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Definitely not health, just wealth, for some.

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Francis64
Francis64
3 years ago

“Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program.”
― Milton Friedman

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Woodburner
Woodburner
3 years ago

If Sir Patrick wishes to see measures stretching out indefinitely, perhaps he’d like to take his place in the queue for boosters every six months, along with the rest of SAGE, the Government, the Opposition, and all the other groups forcing us to wallow in misery. Has anyone actually seen Sir Patrick receive even one jab?

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Woodburner

He was so sure it was safe he was very very keen to make sure his mother got one PDQ. Wonder how that went? Is she still alive does anyone know?

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

I think I mixed up my Vallances with my Van Tam’s there (it was JVT who proclaimed it was so safe he couldn’t wait for his own mother to be jabbed)

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tree
tree
3 years ago

Interesting that since the majority of posts are abuse towards vallance, where is the editorial policy?

Delete the lot…

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Tell us what YOU think about Vallance and what he has said.

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Hopeless - "TN,BN"
Hopeless - "TN,BN"
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Unlikely, from some sort of woodentop.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

He is obviously correct. There is no reason to presume that the next variant isn’t a bad one. Anyone who makes that assumption and doesn’t maintain some defence is an idiot.

Since all the nitwits on here seem to hate him, then he is obviously correct.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

He is obviously correct. There is no reason to presume that the next variant isn’t a bad one.

This is an ad ignorantiam logical fallacy (English appeal to ignorance). Nothing follows from the fact that Vallance is ignorant about some aspect of the future. That’s the normal state of affairs: The future is unknown. Otherwise, it would be the past.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Not sure about the “majority”. Some contain an element of vitriol directed at the man, some purely vitriol, some none. Many posts make points about the relationship between “expert advisers” and government, especially when those advisers may have a interest in pushing a particular line. So why don’t you ignore the “abuse” and answer some of the other comments with some original thoughts of your own, rather than just sniping randomly?

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

There isn’t a single cogent comment from you lot. Your are just shouting hate, threats accusations from the shadows.
This is your major failing..how do you expect to convince people of your point of view, if you can’t describe what it is or justify it.

Just a baying mob.

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oblong
oblong
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Just a tree for a dig to piss on

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

The abuse dominates.
The cogent points simply don’t exist.
You are all just learning new phrases from each other, like children learning to swear.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Dear God it is enough to almost make me miss Concrete.

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Nymeria
Nymeria
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Nothing to do with your time again, tree?

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

If he’s posting here he’s not paying attention to his, errm, collection or sharing it with his friends..

That has to be good

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Nymeria
Nymeria
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

I get your point 🙂

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

Looking for signs of intelligent life.

Not found any yet.

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Nymeria
Nymeria
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

As I said then, you’ve nothing to do with your time.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

Tree thinks “intelligent life” means people who agree with him/her/it/them.

One of the things I most enjoy about DS is that people here disagree with each other every day; and continue to communicate respectfully and with genuine interest with those with whom they disagree.

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Francis64
Francis64
3 years ago

Vallance: Covid Measures Should Remain in Place Forever in Case We Need to “Ramp Things Up Again”

Then once in place they will be expanded and then abused for other nefarious reasons other than what it was initially put in place for – we’ve seen this all before, the RIPA laws being a prime example of where government officials sought powers to combat a perceived future threat (in the case of RIPA laws it was terrorism) only for those powers to be exploited for more fraudulent reasons by local councils to target everything from dog fowling enforcement, domesitic waste and public littering and seeing whether parents were lying about living within a school catchment area … everything it seems other than what the laws were introduced for – ie: preventing terrorism

We all know where this is heading – yet more government interference in all our private lives.

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.” – C S Lewis

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cloud6
cloud6
3 years ago

Cant we export Patrick Vallance and his like to the Peoples Republic of China. I am sure he will find a home there and be welcomed as an advisor to the communist government.

I’ll start a go fund me for his airfare…

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Nymeria
Nymeria
3 years ago
Reply to  cloud6

He can afford his own airfare with the obscene amount of dosh he’s made out of this shit show.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  cloud6

Perhaps he might take his friend Tree with him.

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago

I’d love to know how much this crook has earned as a result of his “services” towards breaking the people of this country. Clearly there’s an incentive for him to keep the scam rolling.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

You all seem to be learning new accusations from each other.

Where is the crime you speak of?

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Get off my post troll.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

“Where is the crime you speak of?”

Making up stories to scare people about ‘a pandemic’.

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True Spirit of America Party
True Spirit of America Party
3 years ago

Fire the lot of them! Out of a cannon, with NO HELMET!

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago

STFU you absolute moron.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Shout from the shadows.. no one is listening to you.

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

It’s ok. I know how to get hold of Vallance. But he’s too busy licking arse to listen.

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prick
prick
3 years ago

Ramp this up you piece of coprolite🖕

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago

By “Ramp Things Up,” whether it be COVID restrictions or Disney degeneracy, what they really mean is Ram Things Down Your Throats.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  Susan

And not in the Judas Priest way!

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

Alert!

Dangerous Psychopath, with vested interests, on the loose …again!

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago

Vallance: Covid Measures Should Remain in Place Forever in Case We Need to “Ramp Things Up Again”

There is a disturbing obsession by toe-rags such as Vallance with the next “pandemic.” It’s 100 years since the world last suffered a pandemic – the Scamdemic was a con job as we all know – so why keep rabitting on about something that rarely happens?

Has Billy dropped the word?

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

It is 2 years since the pandemic started.
Thank vaccination for it not being worse.

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Mr Dee
Mr Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Praise be to the Great Divinity, Lord Vaccination, Saviour of Humanity. And yea, shalt I sacrifice my first born to Him in thanks for His Divine Mercy!

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr Dee

Did you think up this nonsense yourself?

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr Dee

I enjoyed that Mr Dee – but I think you’ve just confused tree …

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Nymeria
Nymeria
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Chainsaw for the deluded tree!

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PaulMac66
PaulMac66
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Yes the vaccine has saved us from the sniffles.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Everyone has had multiple doses of these vaccines of which you speak, so surely now it’s party time – unless you are saying they don’t work?

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

They do work, but some are too stupid to take them.

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

I haven’t been jabbed.

I haven’t even been tested.

I’ve never worn a mask.

I’m a hell of a lot healthier than the people I know who’ve been stupid enough to do any of those things

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

If they work, why is anyone still worried about covid? Seems like all the vaxxtards like you are worried about covid and us lot here are all still alive when we should be dead. Or is your face mask keeping me alive?

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Why would people take ‘vaccines’ for a pandemic that does not really exist, but was invented simply to frighten them to scam them out of their money?
Vallance knows ‘Covid’ is a scam. He has made lots of money out of it, and is attempting to make even more by pretending there’s another ‘pandemic’ about to happen. Probably one he and his mates have already marked down in their diaries.

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Bellingcat
Bellingcat
3 years ago

Yawn – Covid is a once in 20-year pandemic event with 2 mortality spikes that has now become endemic, any further analysis is just chasing noise.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Bellingcat

It’s a once 100 year pandemic.

It’s not endemic yet. And there is a chance of a bad variant mutating.

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Yet strangely several countries had lower than recent mortality if you average the figures for 2020 and 2021.

That doesn’t sound like a once in a century pandemic.

It sounds like lots of people died because of the incompetence or evil of their governments

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

Perhaps you will be able to name these countries. Make sure to use stats from places, where the data is credible.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Perhaps you will be able to use facts and data to prove that ‘Covid’ isn’t a total con?
Did you see some pictures on the telly showing a patient in a hospital bed in Italy and nurses running around intensive care? Or that same ‘dead’ person laying on the street in China, moved to several locations (he got up and walked to them)?

Seen any dead bodies on the streets of England/Scotland/Wales? Nope. If you think there’s a ‘pandemic’ and you need the ‘vaccines’ to stay alive, then there really is no hope for you.

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PaulMac66
PaulMac66
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Incorrect. Swine flu was merely 13 years ago.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  PaulMac66

Not a global pandemic.

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

The general trajectory of viral variants is towards more infectious and less deadly.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  TSull

That says nothing about the next variant. Mutation is random and the success of a variant is down to its transmissibility. If this is higher than the current variant it dominates. If the severity of disease is high, then we are in trouble.

So you need to maintain some means of control.

If the severity of disease is low, then good for all in the short term.

The issue is that we don’t know!

Now you all hate Vallance for saying so, but he is correct and somewhat better informed than you lot.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

“The issue is that we don’t know!”

I guess you have worn a face mask all your life because you didn’t know if you would ever be safe from catching a cold? And also to ‘protect others’ in case you felt perfectly well but could be asymptomatic.

Perhaps you examine your poo with a microscope every day to see if there are any harmful bacteria in it, and wash your hands 20 times a day?

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Not true, they just changed the meaning of pandemic.

It’s a once in 2 years thing now.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Well, if that’s what you think then stay at home for another few years, wear 3 masks and get half a dozen “vaccines” (you know, the ones that don’t work), talk to other ronatards on Zoom and leave the rest of us the hell alone to get on with our lives

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DJ Dod
DJ Dod
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Regular readers of the Daily Sceptic will recall this article, which points out that age-standardised mortality in 2020 was lower than in 2008 and every year prior to 2008:

https://dailysceptic.org/2021/11/10/uk-life-expectancy-during-pandemic-was-at-2010-levels-and-still-over-80-oecd-report-shows/

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PaulMac66
PaulMac66
3 years ago
Reply to  DJ Dod

And 2008 is when the Tree overlooked swine flu pandemic was upon us. Was that mild but deaths per 100,000 for that year were worse than 2020.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  PaulMac66

Where did you get these numbers from?

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  DJ Dod

Well there are lots of incorrect articles on DS. That’s the purpose of it.

It’s to wind up packs of fools.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

There’s a bigger chance of being struck by lightning, or falling down an open manhole.
It’s the fear of The Virus which is keeping this show going. And when the fear subsides, people like Vallance have to stir up more. That’s how they make their living. Better than actually having to do real work, I suppose.

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Nymeria
Nymeria
3 years ago

I know what I’d like to ramp up you, Vallance.

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CovidisCommunism
CovidisCommunism
3 years ago

I am just so angry this man was unelected he should be hung not stood down , how long will these unelected psychos who want to crash the economy that is what they will do and ruin our lives besides Covid I call Convid

was only dangerous to the obese and elderly, these people are not human, I honestly believe more and more we will walk in a great reset here if we can have children their lives will be changed forever and they will not have the freedoms we

had before old traditions marriage and having children will be gone , or reduce to one child for climate reasons , and

we will be sefrs for the upper classes here, they will live in nice big houses go on holiday three times a year , time to fight for your liberty here , maybe have violent protests instead no more peaceful ones .

Vallace Whitty Mitchie and Sage all need to be masked sent on a council bloke and live on a very low average wage , then we can see how they like suffering and poverty.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  CovidisCommunism

What is it that you think he has done?

It is the government that made policy. No doubt you voted for this crowd of idiots, to get Brexit.

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

I voted in the referendum to get Brexit.

I didn’t vote Conservative at the last GE because I had already made my views clear.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

You must have voted Labour then.

Not really believable, is it?

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

No, I didn’t vote: here in Corby we only had a choice of the 3 main racist parties.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

Well you only have yourself to blame.

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

That makes absolutely no sense.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

If you don’t vote, you decide to let others choose. Your fault.

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Nope: if you’re only offered the same thing in three different colourways, not voting is the rational choice.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

Par for the aboreal course – with apologies to actual trees.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

I ask gently – and I know that you will not reply, but are you saying that in all electorates in the last GE there were only two candidates (one Conservative, on Labour)?

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  CovidisCommunism

Have you tried writing before?
Try reading it..see if you know what you mean.

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Physician, heal thyself!

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  CovidisCommunism

Well. Blame the people you did vote in.

You know you voted Tory..you all did.

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PaulMac66
PaulMac66
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

I didn’t, I voted Labour. And I’m a total lockdown sceptic.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  PaulMac66

You must be confused.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

And you know this, because?

Aren’t you ever embarrassed?

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Jane G
Jane G
3 years ago

I hereby cancel this nonentity.

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thinkcriticall
thinkcriticall
3 years ago

AUSSIE SENATOR TO GOVT. COVID CRIMINALS: “WE’RE COMING FOR YOU”

This is gratifying to see and provides a ray of hope for oppressed Aussies…..Queensland Senator Malcolm Roberts – “This unprecedented betrayal of the Australian People must be referred immediately to a Royal Commission. To the Prime Minister, the Health Minister, the federal health department, and all those in the Senate and House of Representatives, all of you who have perpetrated this crime, I direct one question. How the HELL did you expect to get away with it? We’re not going to let you get away with it. We’re coming for you, we have the stamina to hound you down, and we damn well will!”

https://www.bitchute.com/video/gP3XqNsDmVEH/

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

I’m surprised Twatter hasn’t memory-holed that one for spreading so-called “disinformation”.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

💥💥💥 Wow!

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tree
tree
3 years ago

When will profanity and abuse be removed?

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Whenever your commanding officer at 77th brigade assigns you new duties.

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  TSull

You think he’s being paid even a Private’s wages for this?

It’s Emerald Fox who is the 77 Brigade person on here.

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

I suppose you are right. Maybe tree’s job is to clean the toilets in the 77th brigade billet and sneaks on to their computers when nobody is looking?

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  TSull

Nah: he sucks them off in return for access.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

What an intellectual you are..

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

Nah, EF is neither a troll nor a fifth columnist
Just idiosyncratic

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

I had not heard of the ’77th’ until discovering this site. My posts are from my own thoughts and observations.
I get accused of working for the ’77th’ because I often touch on the truth which is painful for those who get caught in their own web of fibs and exaggeration.

eg. “I said face masks are not a legal requirement and walked off unmolested.”
“I have travelled to several European countries during the pandemic using a fake Hack’n’Trace Vaxx Pass.”

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PaulMac66
PaulMac66
3 years ago

Sorry Will but… FUCK OFF VALANCE.

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Nymeria
Nymeria
3 years ago
Reply to  PaulMac66

I’ll second that!

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

Equally insightful

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  PaulMac66

You do know he isn’t reading your rants, don’t you.

It’s just like shouting at the TV. The little people aren’t really inside.

Stop wasting your time.

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PaulMac66
PaulMac66
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

‘You do know he isn’t reading your rants, don’t you.’

Isn’t he? And here’s me thinking he’ll be an avid Daily Sceptic reader.

‘It’s just like shouting at the TV. The little people aren’t really inside.’

But I like… no love shouting at the silly little people in my telly.

‘Stop wasting your time.’

And yet here you are taking up huge swathes of your time trying to put us sceptics (and failing) in our place

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  PaulMac66

You sceptics are already in your place. Here, where you can do no harm.

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Nymeria
Nymeria
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Oh, tree. I’d love a few moments or so with you, irl.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

What are you proposing to do with me?

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

Sounds threatening…

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

So why are you here?

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

My issue is that I don’t have exposure to idiots in real life, so I am learning what you are like.

So far you have proven your idiot credentials well. Shouting abuse at public figures, without a hint of knowledge on the subject.

It’s interesting to see you all form a herd and mirror each others’ behaviour and embolden each other.

All from the your hiding places in the shadows.

When challenged you then turn your abuse to the challenger, instead of explaining your rationale.

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

But you’re clearly the offspring of idiots: you unquestioningly accept the nonsense told to you by known liars.

Such as the idea that there’s been some sort of unusually lethal virus going round.

I’m still waiting to hear of someone I know who has been killed by it, or even someone who, before being jabbed, missed days of work because of it.

On the other hand, I know plenty of people damaged by the jabs or who have had nasty covid episodes after their 3rd jabs.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

Making up stories again?

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Once you adjust the figure for deaths from all causes in 2020 for:

1) Unusually low deaths in 2019;

2) People euthanised with Midozelam;

3) People who died at home because they were terrified or shamed out of going to nA & E;

4) People who died because of the utter refusal of the NHS to try repurposed existing treatments

you don’t get a high figure.

Even if you’re so thick that you refuse to do those adjustments you get a figure for total deaths that, when adjusted for population size, is in line with the first decade of this century.

There was no health crisis requiring the destruction of our way of life.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

Just arm waving..
What numbers?
With sources…

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  PaulMac66

What an insightful argument you make.

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PaulMac66
PaulMac66
3 years ago
Reply to  tree

Cheers

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  PaulMac66

Why not go round yourself to Nottingham and ‘sort him out’?

I know…. it’s scary.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

I think you are confusing Vallance with Jonathan Van Tam!

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
3 years ago

Shameless.

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caipirinha17
caipirinha17
3 years ago

Ah ha. Public Health England were underfunded were they? The plebby taxpayers weren’t happy to shell out for that little department neither the NCS or local authorities want to own, whose employees spend their time designing pointless posters about not smoking and healthy eating and such? Well, thanks to the never-ending pandemic they’ll now be awash with taxpayer cash, and even better the public will feel virtuous about it. They won’t be able to pay for the heating or food, but if it saves one life…

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago

Its the ‘God’ syndrome, poor chap, he’s loopy.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Except God is normally associated with goodness.

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mariawarmth
mariawarmth
3 years ago

quite simply for me I KNOW this man has not been good for people everywhere and he still persisting. By legal due procedures he needs removing from any responsibilities in public life. The country is broke mentally, in health and financially because of him and his ilk. This is now evidenced ! This is more than my opinion.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago

Another thread ruined by a tree troll and people on here who should know better responding.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Could we possibly make some kind of pact that the next thread Tree pops up on we downtick his ridiculous posts until the cows come home but we do not respond – he has totally ruined this thread and stifled any kind of genuine discussion about it.

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tree
tree
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Sorry you don’t understand your own arguments.

What discussion… It’s just abuse.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

I make a point of not responding to trolls.

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vivaldi
vivaldi
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

‘It’ is only able to take up space because ‘it’ gets responses….’it’ feeds off them and propagates more. Come on posters….as Hp says….ignore ‘it’.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  vivaldi

Thanks for your support.

The thread was interesting until that canker popped up.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I thought ‘tree’ made some good points, and found his remarks to be entertaining. A bit different than just reporting another previously unknown ‘sports person’ who “collapsed clutching his heart so it must be the vaccine although we don’t know whether he was vaccinated or not”.

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago

I’m afraid Vallance needs HIS fundamental human rights removed. He should be forcibly locked up, without trial, no right to see a lawyer and zero rights to anything remotely normal. He should be incarcerated in that way for 2 years and if his mental health shows signs of instability, no treatment should be offered.

Very important for animals like Vallance to be treated the way he callously treated millions of British people….

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John Drewry
John Drewry
3 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

Don’t just lock him up. Use him. He should be experimented on.

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
3 years ago

He should be sacked and any pensions accrued forfieted.

Also he should NOT be listened to.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago

*SPOILER ALERT* There’s only this many comments because people continue to feed the resident troll. Stop being mugs and ignore, otherwise you encourage the troll to stay. It’s tedious in the extreme.

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morganlefey
morganlefey
3 years ago

Mr Vallance is a principal perpetrator of the violently deranged anti-science anti-health genocidal Covid policy assault against humanity and Mr Vallance should now understand that he will inevitably be tried for Crimes Against Humanity and swingeingly sentenced in proportion to his egregious criminal activities, if found guilty.

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Jack Daw
Jack Daw
3 years ago

How did this man ever become a government adviser, why should anyone continue to listen what he has to say. He’s a typical civil servant, promoted to a point of incompetence and then rewarded for it. He is a disgrace and should be sacked.
His opining on climate change is equally dramatic and hysterical, and shows him to be little more than a soothsayer or reader of the runes. Time he was shuffled off-stage and into oblivion

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John Drewry
John Drewry
3 years ago
Reply to  Jack Daw

Preferably with a helping hand (or boot)

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debwestsussex
debwestsussex
3 years ago

So it’s going to be around forever, like a cold then?

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  debwestsussex

If that happens, as we never used to name individual ‘colds’ or spend a lot of time detecting which particular virus caused it, it would just going the club, as it were. That said, there could be a profitable market for some to try to follow them all!

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imp66
imp66
3 years ago

Genocidal mania is still alive and kicking. This c u next Tuesday needs locking up.

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John Drewry
John Drewry
3 years ago
Reply to  imp66

And before next Tuesday, too!

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Corky Ringspot
Corky Ringspot
3 years ago

I think of Ali referring to Oscar Bonavena: I ain’t never had a man I wanna whup so bad.” Mr Vallance, you’re the sort of wretch who causes good people to do bad things. You should be deeply ashamed of the tremendous harm you have done.

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Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago

Kill the virus – You don’t get Covid – it is as simple as that: Covid Crusher: Mix one heaped teaspoon of Iodine table salt in a mug of warm clean water, cup a hand and sniff or snort the entire mugful up your nose, spitting out anything which comes down into your mouth. If sore, then you have a virus, so continue morning noon and night, or more often if you want, until the soreness goes away (2-3 minutes) then blow out your nose and flush away, washing your hands afterwards, until when you do my simple cure, you don’t have any soreness at all, when you flush – job done. Also swallow a couple of mouthfuls of salt water and if you have burning in your lungs, salt killing virus and pneumonia, there too.

My simple salt water cure, kills all Coronaviruses and viruses, as soon as you think you have an infection, or while self isolating, before the viruses mutate into the disease in your head and body, for which there is no cure – that is, after you have been out shopping, or mixing with people with potentially, Omicron or Delta viruses, or any other virus.

It washes behind the eyes, the brain bulb, brain stem (Long Covid), The Escutcheon Tubes to the inner ears and the top of the throat which is at a point roughly level with half way up your ears and not where your mouth is and down the back of your throat, when sore.

I have been doing this simple cure for over 27 years and I am and others, never sick from viruses and there is no reason why any of you should be either – when your only alternative are those vaccines!!

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Richard Noakes

“Escutcheon Tubes”

Eustachian Tubes perhaps?

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago

He would say that, wouldn’t he? Wise politicians (if there are any) might take a different view.

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Hester
Hester
3 years ago

When will a Journalist expose Vallances background, who he associates with, his links to big Pharma and the Wellcome trust and of course his source of finances. The man is up to his eyeballs in the Big Pharma money industry, he needs to keep the fear, the injection in every arm for every possible thing going. What this man needs is to be exposed, disgraced and put on trial with the rest of the power crazed eugenecists.

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bowlsman
bowlsman
3 years ago

This man (I am allowed to say man aren’t I?) is without credibility or morality and should be totally ashamed of himself.
Boris needs to get a grip of him.

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iane
iane
3 years ago
Reply to  bowlsman

And vice versa of course!

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RTSC
RTSC
3 years ago

This dangerous, obsessive man needs to be cancelled.

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wantok87
wantok87
3 years ago

A scientific advisor who understands that his policies have killed more than they have saved and sacrificed the health and well being of our children would be optimal. He ,Whitty and SAGE should be held to account – bring back a STAR chamber?

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iane
iane
3 years ago
Reply to  wantok87

Well, I am quite sure Vallance understands all this – he just doesn’t care as the $ signs rack up!

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  wantok87

“I had to take a disabled chap to the Royal Sussex A&E last night, I was for warned that the Hospital is jam packed with humanity and they will probably transfer him to Worthing Hospital. Got their about 9 pm and guess what ? A&E is almost empty . When I asked questions , where are all the Covid Patients I was met with silence or evasive action.
I stopped believing Valance & Shitty months ago and what I experienced last night has only reinforced my belief that this whole thing is not a conspiracy but incompetence on an epic scale.”

https://is-a-cunt.com/2020/12/sir-patrick-vallance/

Old, but still a chuckle or two to be had!

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mojo
mojo
3 years ago

Does anyone listen to these rogues anymore. I believe everyone should ignore the Government and their establishment

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Grumman
Grumman
3 years ago
Reply to  mojo

9 out of 10 people are rolling up for 4th jab. I know meant that have already had it. Vaillance is just a drug salesman.

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marebobowl
marebobowl
3 years ago

”ramp things up again”? By “things” does he mean people? Because it sure feels that way. Didn’t he retire yet? If not maybe it is time.

yes with the repeat cycle of experimental biologicals…..this thing will never end. Everyone had their third, fourth jab yet? Good luck.

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lawtons
lawtons
3 years ago

He’s not going away but now heading up the 100 day response project… The obsession with new viral threats continues its malignant course.

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conocido en valenciana
conocido en valenciana
3 years ago

Whose side is Vallance on? He’s still talking about a role for vaccines; if he means mRNA vaxxs he MUST KNOW that these are unsafe, potentially fatal. If he does mean these (mRNA), then he is either (a) entirely incompetent (but since he really does know about these effects, we can in fact rule out this possibility) or (b) part of the criminal conspiracy. It’s one or the other. Logic and reason suggest the second.

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Jules
Jules
3 years ago

Does anyone know whether Vallance’s comments were being spoken simultaneously at the comments made at  Pandemic Recovery APPG,

Parallel universes in plain sight. Incredible!!

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Human Resource 19510203
Human Resource 19510203
3 years ago

There are no lamp-posts high enough.

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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago

As a Chief Scientific Officer, he clearly doesn’t know much about science, or about humanity. All he sees is risk aversion, damned be everything else.

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lizzie46
lizzie46
3 years ago

With a close family member who suffered the effects of Thalidomide – we do need to question the mindset of someone who continued to peddle harm throughout his career ….

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Grumman
Grumman
3 years ago

The U.K. response changed the day this man had his telecon with Fauci. I believe they decided to use the situation ( which Fauci caused with his illegal gain of function research) as a means to get the clinically untested mRNA style vaccines through the regulatory bodies, for the benefit of their egos and Pfizer profit. The man is a charlatan, in the 17th century he would have been a witchfinder. Science, medicine and ethics thrown out of the window.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
3 years ago

I would love to punch his lights out!

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TheBigman
TheBigman
3 years ago

THIS WAS ALWAYS THE PLAN.

STOP THINKING THIS IS SOMETHING RATIONAL.

OUTRIGHT REFUSAL AND FIGHTING BACK IS THE ONLY HOPE OF REGAINING ANY SEMBLANCE OF FREEDOM!!!

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Peter W
Peter W
3 years ago

Vallance is also peddling dodgy climate data and showing Johnson 11 slides that are tweaked to look bad and without proper context. Of course the prime minister is too lazy to look at data himself or employ someone more honest to inform him.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Peter W

Never mind what was on the 11 slides, dodgy or not, the fact that such a massive, all encompassing government policy should be liable to change on the basis of 11 slides of a presentation from one person is very very worrying in terms of the way government policy is made.

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago

”Evolving rapidly”. These people really do think they are the only ones who can read or understand the meaning of the words relating to mutating viruses.

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Graff Frankenheim
Graff Frankenheim
3 years ago

Covid and other emergency legislation should be constitutionally prohibited or at least subject to a referendum requiring a 75%+ majority. Also: anyone remotely associated with government, WHO, academia and the health services should be barred from taking or influencing any and all decisions due to gross incompetence and criminal negligence shown during this crisis.

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Newman20
Newman20
3 years ago

Just tell him to f**k off.

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