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The Myth of the Hong Kong Covid Disaster

by Will Jones
17 March 2022 7:00 AM

Covid alarmists are reporting on the situation in Hong Kong, claiming it proves them right in the measures they have backed over the past two years.

The latest reports are of overflowing morgues and a shortage of coffins. Here’s the report from MailOnline.

Morgues in Hong Kong are overflowing with bodies after a deadly Covid wave has forced workers in hazmat suits to dump corpses in shipping containers. 

Workers in full PPE gear were seen moving bodies covered in black tarpaulin from a truck into rows of shipping containers outside Fu Shan Public Mortuary on Wednesday.  

Hong Kong has recorded nearly a million infections and more than 4,600 deaths less than three months after the highly transmissible Omicron variant broke through. 

The bulk of the deaths has been from the city’s unvaccinated elderly population.  

A funeral industry representative told local media the soaring death toll had seen a crunch in the city’s coffins supply, with only 300 remaining and expected to be gone by the weekend.

Leader Carrie Lam acknowledged the supply issues during a press conference Wednesday, and said two more shipments of coffins will arrive in Hong Kong from the mainland soon.

The shocking images come just five days after bodies were seen lying abandoned on stretchers next to living patients in a Hong Kong hospital.   

A medic working at the hospital told Hong Kong Free Press the photo was taken inside the Accident & Emergency ward of Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Hong Kong and circulated on Friday.

The photo, reportedly taken in early March, showed six body bags lying on stretchers as bed-bound patients struggled to prop themselves up. 

Here are the pictures of shipping containers being used for bodies and bodies stored in bags on wards – presumably largely a consequence of strict Covid protocols that require those infected with Covid and the bodies of those who die with it to be kept separate from others.

The response to the situation from Covid alarmists has been both predictable and wrong.

Dr. Julian Tang, Honorary Associate Professor and Clinical Virologist at the University of Leicester, says it’s because not enough people were vaccinated with a good enough vaccine. Criticising the CoronaVac (Sinovac) vaccine for producing “no detectable neutralisation of Omicron”, he says: “Ideally, Hong Kong needs to boost or vaccinate all their citizens with the mRNA vaccines to better control the spread of Omicron.” Has Dr. Tang failed to notice that highly vaccinated countries like Israel and the U.K. have suffered at least as many Omicron infections as elsewhere? It’s incredible that scientists are still peddling the myth that the vaccines prevent or control the spread of COVID-19.

Dr. Adam Kucharski, an epidemiologist and modeller at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, took to Twitter to claim that the situation proved him right: “Given current situation in Hong Kong, it’s astonishing that there’s anyone still out there who thinks that not taking Covid seriously in 2020-21 would have worked out fine. [Hong Kong] is a reminder of what happens when there’s a large epidemic in a still susceptible population – so large epidemics in countries pre-vaccination wouldn’t have ended well.”

Given current situation in Hong Kong, it's astonishing that there's anyone still out there who thinks that not taking COVID seriously in 2020-21 would have worked out fine… 1/ https://t.co/lT1zJjUmAv

— Adam Kucharski (@adamjkucharski) March 14, 2022

The reality, though, is that Hong Kong’s Omicron wave has been dropping fast for 10 days now, and deaths will likely follow shortly. Note that unlike cities in China, Hong Kong has not been locked down, and a ban on gatherings of more than two is only being brought in now (why do politicians bring in extreme measures when infections are dropping?), meaning lockdown can’t be credited with putting the outbreak into reverse.

Deaths in the city have admittedly been very high for the region, as the comparison to South Korea shows. However, the death count per million is still a long way short of the U.K.’s. The chart below also shows that the trajectory has been similar to the U.K.’s winter 2020-21 wave, albeit smaller and shorter. We don’t have excess mortality data for Hong Kong so don’t know the impact on the overall level of deaths.

If the city’s morgue’s are overwhelmed and coffin supplies depleted then there may be an in-built capacity problem, as the U.K., along with many European countries, had a proportionally larger wave in winter 2020-21 without suffering similar logistical problems.

Why is Hong Kong suffering a wave of deaths worse than its neighbours? The main suggestion is that it’s because only 30% of the city’s over-80s were double vaccinated ahead of the Omicron wave, plus the poor efficacy (particularly against Omicron) of the CoronaVac (Sinovac) vaccine. The data show that 70% of deaths have been in the over-80s (around 60% in care homes) and 90% of deaths were not double vaccinated (though that means 10% of deaths were double vaccinated, quite high given just 30% of the over-80s are double vaccinated).

The vaccine explanation is plausible. However, the most important factor is surely the presence of a susceptible elderly population, plus Hong Kong being one of the world’s most densely populated places. The city has also been vaccinating during the outbreak, which evidence indicates contributes to driving the spread. Despite this, the death toll is, as noted, smaller than the U.K. winter 2020-21 wave. The fact that infections are dropping now shows once again that lockdowns are not necessary for this to happen. Vaccinating the elderly population with a more effective vaccine may well have prevented many of the recent deaths, but that doesn’t mean lockdowns were justified or there is value in vaccinating the low-risk population. Hong Kong is not the disaster the Covid alarmists are making it out to be, and it certainly does not vindicate the extreme measures of the past two years.

Tags: Covid deathsHong KongOmicron VariantReported infectionsSouth KoreaVaccine efficacyVaccines

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
3 years ago

Strictly speaking the wearing of face-masks is “Unquestionable” if you want to get your paper published in Nature. However, it makes no difference to the outcome if the authors are paying lip-service or believe what they say: another scientific myth is perpetuated.

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Dodgy Geezer
Dodgy Geezer
3 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

It’s not only if you want to get published. We are now in a world where many things are unquestionable – if you want to keep your job, your house and your freedom….

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pjar
pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer

“ if you want to keep your job, your house and your freedom….”

Or, in Canada it seems, your dog and your children…

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brachiopod
brachiopod
3 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

So many ersatz medical scientists advising governments, so few real scientists like Richard Feynman – quote “it isn’t the questions that cannot be answered that bother me, it is the answers that cannot be questioned”.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

“Nature” is now a discredited magazine, under pressure from outside sources to follow preferred narratives -not objective science..

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

Especially when you use ‘unquestionable’ to mean ‘mustn’t be questioned’

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dante
dante
3 years ago

The importance of wearing face masks against COVID-19 is unquestionable.

Even when breathing in carcinogenic toxins.
🤡🌍

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  dante

Nothing is “unquestionable” in science, other than the basic axioms in mathematics and logic. Newton’s laws are pretty good and for hundreds of years most people thought they were 100% true in all circumstances but it turns out they were not.

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pjar
pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Sadly, what they mean is that they themselves are ‘unquestioning’… not a good look for a scientist, really.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  dante

Remember in our new communitarian society it’s not about you anymore but the the greater good! So what if it harms you. As long you’re not spreading the deadly coof….🙄

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TheApesOfWrath
TheApesOfWrath
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

“If it saves JUST ONE LIFE!!!!!”

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Paul B
Paul B
3 years ago
Reply to  TheApesOfWrath

Chopping up 1 healthy person for parts can save many lives!

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  TheApesOfWrath

No other comments required: this pronouncement trumps all others.

I have used it mockingly before (though it’s just water off a duck’s back, as with any counter argument).

Still, I think the slogan is valuable to us because of its stupendous absurdity. I will definitely cherish it.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  TheApesOfWrath

That’s MY go-to line, too!😉

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Mike Durrans
Mike Durrans
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Balls to that theory! I’m my own man and to-hell with communism

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  dante

Why is no one asking the questions:

  1. Why on earth would you have any need whatsoever to impregnate face masks with carcinogenic toxins? are they somehow antiviral or something? AND
  2. Having impregnated the masks with the toxic carcinogenic chemicals why then would you mandate the wearing of them??

Unless, of course, this was a deliberate strategy to further harm people (if you can’t vaxx them to oblivion then mask them to death?)

The content of the article has been doing the rounds for some time now but was always rubbished.

Nothing would surprise me now – absolutely nothing. I am not seeing “incompetence” or “mistakes” or “stupidity” – every where I look I see evil all around me. The only word for it. Evil.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Those energy saving light bulbs had mercury in them too, bad if you broke them and bad if you made them. Whether there was evil intent I don’t know.

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Samurai Jack
Samurai Jack
3 years ago

As I said to my employer and colleagues, much to their dismay..

Excess mortality peaked by the 3rd week of April 2020

Deaths returned to normal levels by the first week of June

Mask mandate towards the end of July – so cause and effect is completely out of sync

You do realise that none of you are following clinical guidelines for using, washing of hands etc, lack of incorrect protocols evident

Can I stop finding them all over the floor, you’re preaching sustainable development here, but issuing throw away masks like there going out of fashion.

Can you provide me with a RCT in community settings that proves beyond all reasonable doubt that masks do what u say they do..

No.. Thought not – I’ve exempted myself, cheers 🍻

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caipirinha17
caipirinha17
3 years ago
Reply to  Samurai Jack

I like to add in a little reminder that nail biting is a terrible habit from an infection control perspective and so many maskies are still doing that!

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SJR
SJR
3 years ago

if this were any other product used regularly by millions of people then there would be an immediate recall, and the product banned until it was safe to sell.

This happens regularly over the tiniests of risks to consumers, but it’s not happening in this case for some reason.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  SJR

Because it was never about health but political lobbying. The government couldn’t even be bothered to carry out a medical health risk assessment on mask wearing by the general public, before mandating their use. If it had been done it wouldn’t have passed muster, and they WANTED the public napped up! Hence the exemptions – they didn’t want to be held responsible for any harms they caused!

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caipirinha17
caipirinha17
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

And of course they suggested the public could make their own from old t shirts, knickers and whatnot, so they had a choice to make something safer than they could buy off ebay…

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

How about a face mask made from Sajid Javid’s old underpants?

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Nah….you’re alright!😫

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago

Avoid covid, get cancer, stay saaaafe.

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Eric Olthwaite
Eric Olthwaite
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

lol Your comment reminded of the mask-wearers I would see who would pull down the mask under their chin and then smoke a cigarette and then pull it up again once they had finished – don’t want to catch covid but lung disease is fine!

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Olthwaite

And the nappy wearers in the freakin’ storm on Friday, staying saaafe!

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Mike Durrans
Mike Durrans
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

That would be a good like in a song !
to the tune of Ghost Riders in the Sky

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Eric Olthwaite
Eric Olthwaite
3 years ago

Never wore a mask – sister is a care worker, one day she brought with her a brand new box of those common blue mask that everyone seems to wear – asked me if I wanted a new mask but I declined the offer – I opened the box for her and examined one – the small fibres etc that the masks were made of and then I smelled the box and I immediately detected the strong whiff of chemicals – I thought, god is this is what people were placing over their nose and mouths for most of the day and breathing in god-knows-what chemicals and micro-fibres into their lungs? I know of people working in shop stores who had to wear one for up to eight hours day — this can’t be good for you surely? Glad I never wore one – horrid things.

Off subject – but I can’t help notice that there seems to be quite a few TV and radio notices lately regarding the early warnings of an impending heart attack and being aware of the signs … I dunno? Perhaps I’m becoming a bit paranoid what with blood clots being linked to the covid jab – but once again, thank god I never had one of those things too.

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maggie may
maggie may
3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Olthwaite

I’ve seen the ads and notices re heart attacks too, and plenty of screenshots of headlines shown on this and other sites recently. The BHF one is the one that really annoys me. They are obviously trying to make out that heart attacks can happen quite easily and at any time and that’s quite normal. Sadly it will be accepted by a lot of the sheep. I was rash enough to change my duvet cover a couple of days ago which a recent article suggested could lead to a heart attack but i have survived, must be because i had the jab – except i didn’t…

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Olthwaite

They are “normalising” heart attacks even in children by showing this propaganda, by saying anybody can have a heart attack (which is true) but it’s very rare in children. But by showing kids collapsing makes people think this can affect children.and an everyday occurrence.

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albert hall
albert hall
3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Olthwaite

I’d recommend a look at Hugo Talks site. He has around a dozen clips in his “young hearts” series detailing many many deaths and injuries from taking the clotshot.

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Username1
Username1
3 years ago

Seeing children and even babies with masks on in the supermarket was bad enough…now you know there’s a strong possibility they will suffer from elevated incidence of cancer in later life. To protect octogenarians, allegedly.

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Eric Olthwaite
Eric Olthwaite
3 years ago
Reply to  Username1

I saw a family of mask wearers last week – mother, father and their two toddlers who couldn’t have been no older than 5/6 years of age – all wearing masks and before they went into a store they would all sanitize their hands.

Incredible.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Olthwaite

I’ve a good mind to spit when I see mask wearers just to emphasise that it’s a filthy habit but the point would probably be lost on them.

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mayeco6112
mayeco6112
3 years ago

Strictly speaking the wearing of face-masks is “Unquestionable” if you want to get your paper published in Nature. However, it makes no difference to the outcome if the authors are paying lip-service or believe what they say: another scientific myth is perpetuated.

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crazypaving17
crazypaving17
3 years ago

How on earth is wearing them unquestionable? Everything is open to challenge. I notice Nat Geo also used this word in an article saying kids suffer no negatives of masks and actually benefit from them.

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caipirinha17
caipirinha17
3 years ago
Reply to  crazypaving17

It’s programming, if enough official looking sources say the same then it must be reliable. Then they’ll use it for climate change propaganda and people won’t even realise they had a choice not to believe it.

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crazypaving17
crazypaving17
3 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

Yep, climate change is also undeniable according to the media. I’m still waiting for the acid rain I was warned about in the 80’s and the floods we were promised by 2020.

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Sceptical Steve
Sceptical Steve
3 years ago
Reply to  crazypaving17

As someone with a long involvement in the fertiliser industry, I can state with some certainty that the general response to the “acid rain scare” in the 1980s has reduced substantially the quantities of Sulphur Dioxide released into the air by industry and power stations.

Obviously, this came at a considerable cost to all those involved, and led to increased quarrying for Lime which was a key material in the desulphurisation process. Much of this Lime has had to be taken from our National Parks, particularly the Peak District and Yorkshire Dales, so the tree-huggers would much prefer to see the polluting installations closed.

Ironically, in the UK, one unfortunate impact of this was to deplete our soils of the elemental Sulphur that is required for many of our key crops, such as Oil Seed Rape. The farmers now have to apply that Sulphur themselves as part of their fertiliser regime.

As much of the Sulphur used in fertilisers comes from Oil Refining or Metal Refining, the environmentalists really need to explain how we can expect to feed the world’s growing population if we let these industries decline.

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Tillysmum
Tillysmum
3 years ago
Reply to  crazypaving17

And in the 60’s I distinctly remember being told we were heading for another ice age.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

This makes me glad I’ve never worn one.

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HobbyGobbyGold
HobbyGobbyGold
3 years ago

Will – no… just no.

If mask wearing is deemed to be “unquestionable”, then it is not worth “reading in full” – sorry.

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Arum
Arum
3 years ago
Reply to  HobbyGobbyGold

Perhaps ‘unquestionable’ is a very clever choice of words?

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Bolloxed Britannia
Bolloxed Britannia
3 years ago

Are there any “conspiracy facts” left? Try this one….Covid was a pre planned crisis, instigated and facilitated by a globalist, totalitarian, Eugenicist technocracy. The fundamentals of that plan being to rid the planet of billions of people, and subjugate the remainder by means of NPIs, mutagenic carcinogenic gene manipulating cytotoxins in the guise of “vaccines” and the implementation of a bio-security hell on Earth! How’s it going in Canada btw? It’s all about a public health emergency don’tcha know…

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Bolloxed Britannia

Carol McGiffin used the word “biosecurity state” in Dan Wooton’s Thursday night show when he asked her where she thought all this was headed. I almost fell off my sofa to think that I had heard someone say those words on a national TV show.

Last night, in his show Neil Oliver was discussing the Canada situation, pointing out that if it could happen there it could happen here and saying that it isn’t an issue of Left or Right or Authoritarian or Libertarian politics – there is right and there is wrong, and what is being done in Canada is just wrong. So incredibly powerful, as was his opening monologue.

GB News really starting to call it now. Keep going GB NEWS – keep up the good work, but go further, start asking the big questions now.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

They had the great Maajid Nawaz on there last night too. He called it a global Palace Coupe. I wondered what ‘palace’, apparently that is from Star Wars. Not seen that since being a kid so that one was lost on me.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago

Two years gone by and the discussion of whether face masks are good for you or not continues. There will never be any valid conclusion one way or t’other. All that really matters is that when the Government order you to wear a face mask, will you comply? The answer is mostly ‘yes’. There will be those who say ‘no’ but the majority of them will have a mask in a pocket “just in case”.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

No, that’s not all that really matters. It’s important to get through people’s thick skulls that the evidence that masks work is weak and that medical interventions must be led by evidence not politics or speculation, and that it’s not a zero-cost intervention. That way, next time more people might resist.

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Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

“There will never be any valid conclusion one way or t’other.”

I beg to differ having read the Danish mask study, an RCT, last year. The results of that study demonstrated that there was no statistically significant difference in the transmission of SARS CoV 2 between mask wearers and those not given to modern superstition behaviour.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

And I do recall they had to change them regularly and if they touched them, they’d have to change them.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Depressingly true.

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Tillysmum
Tillysmum
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Nothing is mandatory unless both parties agree.

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Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago

“The importance of wearing face masks against COVID-19 is unquestionable.”

I’m questioning that claim.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

They do nor work and they do harm – there is no question involved!

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Gregoryno6
Gregoryno6
3 years ago

Life can be awfully unkind.

Masks are unsafe.jpg
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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

Yes, but, unless you are visiting a site of this nature, and let’s face it how many people are?? you won’t have a clue that that face mask you have been wearing for almost 2 years now has been impregnated with nasty toxic carcinogens.

Masks have been reduced to “strong guidance” where I live. And yet people are still walking around wearing them. I was in a convenience shop the other day and all were masked – I was the only bare face. I thought “one of us is wrong here and I am sure it isn’t me”.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

“Discovers masks are unsafe.”…and useless….but wears one anyway.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

Some continued to wear flares long after they stopped being fashionable, the same with masks.

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paul parmenter
paul parmenter
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Except flares have never been shown to cause cancer.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

Edward Dowd

‘The criminals have been caught. The criminals know they have been caught. It’s just that the public don’t yet know that the criminals have been caught’

He predicts that once financial analysts understand the extent of the death and fraud the Pfizer share price will tank

The MSM will not be able to ignore the share price crash bringing the whole edifice down

My opinion: This makes sense of pushing the jab on the 5 to 11 year olds, it is to shore up the share price.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Don’t any investors have children?

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paul parmenter
paul parmenter
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Do you think their children will be jabbed?

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iane
iane
3 years ago
Reply to  paul parmenter

Sadly, yes to both: investors, at least the small to medium ones, are just as likely to be sheeple as any man [no sex or gender implied!] in the street.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Jon Rappaport’s open letter to Edward Dowd asks a lot of very pertinent questions:

Open Letter to Edward Dowd: the financial collapse – Nexus Newsfeed

I’m taking your remarks quite seriously, because you’re a financial insider.
You appear to be saying government debt has finally, after decades, reached an end point. Governments can no longer handle the interest payments. COVID will be their cover story. They will say, “Because of the extraordinary outlays of money to support companies and individuals during the pandemic crisis and the necessary lockdowns, we’ve gone into a very deep hole. Therefore, we have to rework the whole financial system.”
Correct?

But this con will not be played out smoothly. People’s savings and investments will be wiped out. Once the news is leaked confirming governments are broke, all trading markets will crash. Government pension funds—gone.
Is this the scenario you envision?

What about individual bank accounts? Will they survive? If not, why not?

Up to now, governments have invented money out of thin air. Why can’t they keep printing it and further rig the system by declaring (with their creditors) that interest payments on government debt will be lowered and extended further into the future?

I fully understand the points you’re making about Pfizer and Moderna possibly going down, as Enron did. They committed, in collusion with the FDA, massive fraud vis-à-vis their vaccine clinical trials. Their safety data were lies.
I also can see, as you predict, a war between insurance companies and vaccine manufacturers, based on huge upswings in deaths as a result of the vaccines. The insurance companies have to pay out all those unexpected death claims.

But I want to form a clearer picture of your predictions about the financial collapse. I agree that The Great Reset is real. The powers-that-be fully intend to make it happen. A currency reset is one of their main objectives.
You seem to be saying that 2022 or 2023 is the year for the financial reset; and there will be much chaos and many riots. “Turbulence” would be a vast understatement.

So I’d like to see, in writing, the details on how you think this is going to play out.

For example, do you believe new sweeping lockdowns—blamed on “COVID”—will actually keep people in their homes and off the streets rioting—as they discover their savings and investments have been wiped out?
A new state of emergency amounting to martial law will be declared?
Government leaders will actually admit, publicly, that their debt is insupportable, and a new system must be put in place, NOW?

It would be valuable to read your fleshed-out scenario of the reset. Then we could SEE what might be in store for all of us.
The difference between an overall plan to wage war against the people and the battle strategy itself is enormous.
Looking at the strategy tends to wake people up.
“You mean they’re going to do THAT? And if we respond with THIS, they’ll do THAT…?”
Your position within the system gives you an important perspective. I hope to hear from you.

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mwhite
mwhite
3 years ago

Claim?

https://rumble.com/vv5z3t-more-radiation-burn-victims-from-microwave-energy-weapon-used-on-canberra-f.html

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Bellacovidonia
Bellacovidonia
3 years ago

The science defying term “unquestionable” is like many other pieces of Covid aligning research purely performative. In essence it’s reification as the brilliant Eugyppius demonstrates on sub stack. ‘Unquestionable” is not a scientific term it’s a code word signalling compliance and alignment with the master narrative. This alignment is underpinned by the brutal reality of withheld funding and blocked promotions etc, while going along frees up both. Science has to all intents and purposes been thoroughly corrupted.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago

‘The importance of wearing face masks against COVID-19 is unquestionable’

Balderdash. What sort of scientist claims something like this is ‘unquestionable’?

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

A Fake ‘scientist’?

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

It’s “unquestionable” because it’s zero, a cynic might observe! The belief that they do any good is for the birds.

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paul parmenter
paul parmenter
3 years ago

We are constantly bombarded with the orthodoxy that scientific knowledge and technology should make all our decisions for us, and that any natural instincts we may have are dubious at best, and in most cases simply dead wrong. Most particularly when they go against The Science.

And yet I am sure that I was never alone in instinctively sensing that walking around all day with a random piece of artificial material – and since there has never been any official technical guidance on the subject, it has always been any random piece of artificial material – across your mouth and nose, cannot be right or healthy. And natural instincts actually have a pretty strong track record of keeping us alive and safe, since long before any infallible scientists and equally infallible politicians came along to tell us how wrong we are about everything and how they can and will improve on nature at every turn.

You might say that if God had intended us to filter the air we breathe, we would have been born with natural filters and endowed with the means of destroying just about anything in the air that was harmful to us.

Oh wait a minute, we all have been…

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  paul parmenter

Interestingly, Kaufmans hypothesis on what our intermittent coughs and colds are for is that when our filters become clogged, they need to be changed, so the body is renewing these filters and thats why we cough up all the crap and get tickly feelings etc. There could be other detoxififcation happening as well. Its the body going through something like a snake shedding its skin. Ive just been through this and one thing I have noticed is that my singing is clearer and voice stronger. I feel i have had an upgrade of sorts. He said it in the interview with Corona Committee

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Mike Durrans
Mike Durrans
3 years ago

Anybody daft enough to wear a bought face nappy deserve all they get, I am surprised at the continuing numbers of submissive idiots STILL wearing their moronic badge

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HicManemus
HicManemus
3 years ago

Look out for E171 as a food additive – due to be banned by EU in 2022 – this is Titanium dioxide.

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago

Everything these pieces of filth have recommended to keep people safe is an inversion and it all causes harm. The masks. The jabs. The tests. The lockdowns. Its all deliberately geared towards poor physical and mental health outcomes (interchangeable and linked) and many people who have obediently trusted institutions with no morals will pay a very high price for their ignorance. But I have tried very hard to warn these people in person and very few actually engage without becoming pig headed and moronic. They are brainwashed, but they are also bigoted and unwilling to listen

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

The ventilators. The remdesevir. Everything they have touted as a cure or a measure to combat Convid is a weapon.

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Draper233
Draper233
3 years ago

Surely mask-wearers won’t have a problem with any of this.

Because, after all, they were only ever wearing the mask “to protect others” no?

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago

Very important clip from Brendon O Connell showing how TPTB manage and control peoples reality:

How To Control The Mob: Adam Curtis, “Hypernormalization”, Extract
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti32Fzf63aQ

Last edited 3 years ago by ComeTheRevolution
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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago

Saw a good one today whilst driving to the indoor bowls club. In the middle of the countryside in the pouring rain was a middle aged man on a push bike, his own in the Somerset levels wearing a mask. The thing must of been soaked through, oh well it takes a special kind of stupid.

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brachiopod
brachiopod
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

Probably just Ill informed– think of the boiling of the frog.
The real point here is that a significant number of us now no longer have a childlike trust in those we should be able to trust; government, doctors, reporters, newspapers (feel free to add others who have lost our trust).
Of course, this ‘trust me’ meme is as old as the Bible where we are given the example of Doubting Thomas as someone not to imitate

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TheGreenAcres
TheGreenAcres
3 years ago

It’s one thing to mandate vaccines that have been around for decades, such as those against polio and tetanus.

No sorry, it really isn’t. I might think someone is stupid for not having a particular treatment or medical procedure, but either we are autonomous human beings, or the alternative is that our bodies belong to the State. There is no middle ground.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

“The greater good” and “the public interest” in the proposed new “Bill of Rights” will ensure our bodies belong to the state – unless we stop it..

Last edited 3 years ago by David Beaton
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Catee
Catee
3 years ago

“The importance of wearing face masks against COVID-19 is unquestionable.”

I can’t believe I’ve just read that, Where’s the evidence Will?

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brachiopod
brachiopod
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

He is just quoting the report. But the point is that unless you pay lip-service to this establishment falsehood you won’t get published.
There are numerous examples, I am told. One I have seen even went so far as hiding the finding that those in the BMI classification of ‘overweight’ had the lowest mortality, by putting it in the Results section.

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mishmash
mishmash
3 years ago

More cancer.

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brachiopod
brachiopod
3 years ago

Oh great ….. not.

But on the plus side there is no protection from prosecution for the VIP track procurers of this toxic rubbish we were all required to breathe in.

If there is a legal action requiring funding please let me know.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  brachiopod

Hate to break it to you but there is a thing in a civil lawsuit for damages called the chain of causation. If you develop cancer you will have to be able to PROVE that it was wearing a mask that did it to you – as those chemicals occur in so many other items and substances you will have no way of proving that it was X’s mask that caused your cancer.

If it wasn’t so evil I’d have to give them marks for ingenuity.

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brachiopod
brachiopod
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

You are right, of course, but hopefully it will wake people up to the risks they are exposing themselves to at the behest of those we are entitled to think have our best interests at heart.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

And some even warn on the packet not to be warn for long periods of time.

Last edited 3 years ago by Ron Smith
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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

And they often warn on the packets, in small text, that they are not medical masks at all.

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brachiopod
brachiopod
3 years ago

Probably just ill informed or uninformed, it is very easy to not realise that you are being manipulated – think of the boiling of the frog.
The real point here is that a significant number of us now no longer have a childlike trust in those we should be able to trust; government, doctors, reporters, newspapers (feel free to add others who have lost our trust).
Of course, this ‘trust me’ meme is as old as the Bible where we are given the example of Doubting Thomas as someone not to imitate.

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RW
RW
3 years ago

Nothing which asserts that buying loads of Chinese throwaway products is unquestionably important for anyone but the manufacturers is worth reading. Sars-CoV2 is not special. It’s just another virus causing usually harmless cold-like symptoms and money would be better spent on treating the non-harmless cases than on tokenistic mummery in imitation of culturally backwards Asian nations.

In all likeliness, that’s just another case of The best science money can buy, namely, the money of the people who want to sell these garbage products.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

Hard to cope with all the anti-plastic climate emergency lectures on the one hand when on the other hand the same sanctimonius gits are exhorting us all to test [plastic kits] and mask wear [yet more plastic] until the cows come home.

Perhaps they can’t see it and need it explained to them.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago

Ha ha!

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago

“The importance of wearing face masks against COVID-19 is unquestionable”. ….come again!

Last edited 3 years ago by Ron Smith
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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

Unbelievable! And the politicians, fake doctors working for Pharma ,Billionaires and pseudo-scientists forced these on children with the help of bullies.

What a dark time we now live in!

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

As I’ve said before, masking is a filthy habit, and I am not surprised by stories like this.

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Early Doubter
Early Doubter
3 years ago

CoronaV19 is just not dangerous enough for almost everyone. So it doesn’t really matter if this or that “works” or if this or that is “effective”, the virus is not dangerous enough to bother.
Stop the debate before it begins on all of these topics (lockdown, distancing, masking, sanitising, hugging, handshakes, track-n-trace, etc) by reminding your opponent that it is just not that dangerous enough to bother.

What matters now is the damage caused by the governments’ policies including the impact of the jabs.

Last edited 3 years ago by Early Doubter
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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago

Spot the opportunists. Images attached, from the March issue of the IET Magazine.

Plastic face waste - 1.jpg
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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  JohnK

And the other one.

Plastic face waste - 2.jpg
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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago

We must keep asking the muzzled – if these bits of Chinese paper/plastic were so effective, why aren’t there hazardous waste bins everywhere for their disposal?

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