An Israeli study has looked at how much difference a fourth Covid vaccine dose makes compared with a third dose.
The study was restricted to triple-jabbed healthcare workers, and more specifically to those whose antibody levels were in the bottom 40% of the antibody levels in the cohort (a group comprising around 29% of the cohort). Of the 1,050 eligible healthcare workers, 154 were given a Pfizer fourth dose and 120 Moderna. The rest formed a triple-jabbed control group.
Measuring antibody levels, the researchers found an increase by around 10-fold following the fourth dose, restoring antibodies to the peak levels they hit following the third dose, though no higher.
The study was originally intended just to measure antibody levels and other indicators of immunogenicity. However, the Omicron surge in the country was so large that despite being a small study, enough infections occurred within the study groups to allow an estimate of vaccine effectiveness. The participants were PCR tested each week. The researchers reported that ‘breakthrough’ infections were common and, though mild, had high viral loads. During the study period, 25% of the control groups (triple-dosed) tested positive compared with 18-20% of the four-dose groups. This gave a fourth-dose versus three-dose vaccine effectiveness against PCR-positive infection of just 11-30% – though the small population size led to wide confidence intervals ranging from minus-43% to 55%.
Among the four-dose groups, there were 52 ‘breakthrough’ infections, of which 39 (75%) were classed as symptomatic. The vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic disease was estimated at 31-43%, though again with wide confidence intervals.
The symptoms of all PCR-positive infections were typically “negligible”, the researchers report, and in many cases the infections “would not have been tested or reported, without the active surveillance”. Yet they had relatively high viral loads (Ct around 25), so were presumably infectious. Thus, with a quarter of triple-vaccinated and a fifth of quadruple-vaccinated healthcare workers becoming infected and apparently infectious during the wave, the researchers conclude the vaccine programme is a failure as it is not preventing the spread of Covid: “The major objective for vaccinating [healthcare workers] was not achieved.” However, the apparent efficacy against severe disease and death means older and vulnerable people may benefit from a fourth vaccine dose, they say.
The study also looked at safety. It found that 80% of Pfizer recipients and 40% of Moderna recipients reported some kind of adverse reaction, though none were classed as serious. The adverse reactions are summarised in the chart below.
Larger studies on the efficacy and safety of the fourth dose, which has now been rolled out (having gone ahead without waiting for studies such as this one), are forthcoming, the researchers note.
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It is odd that some of the best COVID data (or most convincing studies) seem to have come out of Israel, which has been the most pro-active government in mandating ineffective COVID mitigation measures.
It seems to me that Israel has some of the most non-sensical (and harmful) COVID policies, but at least they allow some data that proves this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60465983 over 75 and vulnerable over 12’s will be offered another injection in the spring.
Headstone.
Please Pluuse! Mr Toby, could we have an article (any article) without some nerd sticking a bloody needle in some poor sheep?
It may not be common knowledge, but there are real humans with a needle phobia.
I would be as well watching the lying beeb with their needle propagandsa.
Thanking you.
So…jabs that everyone knows do not prevent infections or transmission, appear to have failed to stop the spread of Covid.
Now can we have a study to test whether colanders hold water or not.
To prove a negative
It is virtually impossible other than through ‘scientific’ means to prove a negative. In my opinion it is this more than anything else that drove the actions of the regimes
If the regimes had taken no action over covid then it would have been impossible for them to prove and therefore deny that deaths after that point were not attributable to their inaction
The safer option was to impose restrictions and then claim they had saved lives. This shifts the burden of proof onto the sceptics. How can the sceptics prove that the regimes actions did not save lives….. impossible
There was never going to be a ‘control’ group who were not subjected to the restrictions/interventions that could be compared with the group that was experimented on
None of the past two years has any basis in science
The past two years have been predicated on opinion, hope, fear, emotion, profit, politics, propaganda and hysteria
Even through scientific means it’s often difficult or impossible. Hence the norm has always been for someone proposing some new theory / practice / explanation to be expected to prove that what they say is correct, not for doubters to prove that it it’s wrong.
This has all been turned on its head over the past two eyars – e.g. the normal response from Maskivists is that “you can’t prove they don’t work”.
Real-world evidence is also ignored when inconvenient – in the case of the face nappies, the fact that countries mandating them don’t have fewer cases than those which do not mandate them, and that introduction and remove of muzzle mandates has no impact on infection graph trajectories, is rejected by the True Believers.
And what is happening is an increase in pollution: https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articles/2022/02/who-is-tackling-the-pandemic-of-waste/ Ironic if the those that recommend their use are in the same club as the “climate change” activists!
I think the game is up, at least for Moderna’s mnr covid jab.
Apparently their share price is now down to pre panic levels.
The actuaries/analysts/medical experts employed by the big boys are much more likely to be correct than the dimwit idiots deliberately used by governments and fawned over by the MSM-and that’s you the BBC.
I remember Michael Levitt ( Nobel Laureate ) calling this out two years ago.
He’s not employed by huge finance/investment companies for nothing.
Obviously this is only a temporary state of affairs.
A new highly transmissible HIV will/has been detected. Absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the jabs trash the immune system.
https://www.authorea.com/users/455597/articles/552937-innate-immune-suppression-by-sars-cov-2-mrna-vaccinations-the-role-of-g-quadruplexes-exosomes-and-micrornas
Not quite
Romanian MEP Cristian Terheș lambasts Justin Trudeau’s dictatorial measures in Canada.
https://t.me/wideawakemedia/969
“He’s exactly like a tyrant, like a dictator. He’s like Nicolae Ceaușescu in Romania.”
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funny, I’ve always thought it was called clovid. But its actually covid.
the most important thing that happened to me in the last 2 years
It’s taken 14 months for this evil covid contrivance too begin it’s collapse. The critical thought cohort’s who called this out from the start, are on the cusp of victory in revealing the bastardised science used to coerce billions into accepting a potential death sentence in the guise of a “vaccine”.
But as many know, it was never about a fictitious plandemic, the real fight is about to commence. As the US and UK deep state try to ignite a war with Russia to divert your attention, the laws that government put in place that removed our freedoms remain in place.
The infrastructure that was used for track and trace and vax passports remains in place and is being modified as we speak so that it can be used in the inevitable introduction of the PROGRAMMABLE TOTALITARIAN CBDC AND SOCIAL CREDIT SYSTEM BASED ON THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY MODEL! The fight for our freedoms, and our children’s freedoms is imminent. Will you die on your feet or live on your knees? The lives of future generations will depend on our bravery…or lack of it!
“Sadly, the virus itself – particularly the variant Omicron – is a type of vaccine. That is, it creates both B cell and T cell immunity. And it’s done a better job of getting out to the world population than we have with vaccines.” – Bill Gates
Sadly?
no money in it
‘… ‘breakthrough’ infections were common and, though mild…’
Yes amazing! A virus that produces symptoms so mild the infection often goes unnoticed, is producing…. mild ‘breakthrough’ infections. We are meant to infer this is all due to the pseudo-vaccines.
However, the apparent efficacy against severe disease and death means older and vulnerable people may benefit from a fourth vaccine dose, they say.
Apparently? Apparent from what? The trial did not include ‘older and vulnerable people’. Older and vulnerable people get the disease seriously or die because they are older and have existing life-threatening disease. No matter how many doses of the pseudo-vaccines they get it won’t make them younger or cure their existing diseases. Another dose will however make them more susceptible to infection in the following 14 to 21 days, more likely to get the disease seriously and die.
The narrative is so deeply entrenched that even when the data consistently shows these pseudo-vaccines are as much use as injecting sterile water, and that they are attempting to vaccinate against a virus that is harmless to 99% of the population, these witting dupes and useful idiots still won’t say what is obvious, they are just chasing their… Read more »
Slightly off topic but if you can bring yourselves to read the Guardian re a main article about “lifting restrictions”.
What an eye opener the comments are, then again, it’s the Guardian so maybe not…
Unfortunately I was banned from commenting about 18 months ago but please make a sensible comment on there if you can.
Guaranteed to be a case of lighting the blue touch paper.
I was banned too, even though I was a paying reader, so speech isn’t free on the Guardian even if you pay for it. But then I expect that Billy Goates is/was paying a lot more than the subscription readers.
Amazing how the brainwashed think that if they go into work they could infect the ‘vulnerable’, the nudge unit have had 100% success with Guardian readers
Welcomed their fellow socialists to these shores and informed on opposition.
grauniad is ground zero for soaking mattresses
dunno what they ‘d have done in June 1940 with Nazi invasion on the horizon. gone to Canada I imagine
And meanwhile, they have this article too:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/feb/21/england-second-pandemic-mental-health-issues-nhs-covid
Has anyone explained the concept of ’cause and effect’ to the Guardian and its readers? Has it not occurred to them that the longer retstrictions go on, the worse the negative impacts will become?
And anyone who is expecting “help” from the bunch of charlatans which constitutes the mental health profession is either deluded or deceived.
It’ll be remembered as the Great Jabython, that’s all, with scientists still saying ‘don’t stop now we’ve nearly cracked it’
Well,the obvious solution is a fifth dose. That will do the trick…
I could’ve told you that…
So after 1, 2, 3, 4 jabs they have finally accepted that the vaccines have failed completely to prevent the spread of covid … but now all those who had the jab will have to live with the very real possibility of mid-long term health issues caused by these untested jabs and in some cases maybe even fatal consequences – some are now practically ticking time bombs just waiting to go off with sudden heart seizures because of the jab.
Keep your voice down, anything can set them off!
Exactly. That’s why you will need 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10…. ££££££££ jabs.
Another day, another young public figure dies with a long biography and not even a hint at the cause of death.
This is becoming an every day occurrence. BBC seem to now have a template for how they report these sudden deaths.
Pre-scamdemic they would at least say that the ’cause of death is yet to be announced’ but they don’t say this now, most likely because it means they’ll need to report it.
And a sudden ‘inexplicable’ death of a DUP Northern Ireland politician of similar age, leaving a wife and four young children.
Yes I saw that report too. Bill Gates was recently quoted saying he expects another pandemic soon. Can’t help but wonder if he’s referring to an expected wave of deaths from the ‘vaccine’.
Please stop saying vaccines they are not vaccines
The headline should read
‘What Some People describe as Vaccines Have Failed to Prevent the Spread of Covid, Israeli Study Concludes’
It’s not difficult
’Vaccine’ is a much abused term which when assigned to a drug carries a lot of protection from questioning on grounds of efficacy and harm.
We should probably just call them ‘experimental mRNA gene therapy intramuscular injections’ to distinguish them from e.g. ‘approved weakened whole virus intramuscular injections’
Agreed. Last year, in the pamphlet that encouraged me to use it, they said: “We do not yet know whether it will stop you from catching and passing on the virus”, and between the lines they admitted that it is, in effect, a mitigation drug, if you end up being infected. They would have had awful difficulty to get it approved with a suitable name that described it’s function though, compared with calling it a “vaccine” under Emergency Use Authorisation.
Vaccine: produces immunity to a specific disease. mRNA – it us now admitted does not provide immunity just makes CoVid Less Serious™️ when you get it. Therefore it us not a vaccine.
For nearly everyone unvaccinated, natural immune response makes CoVid ‘less serious’, in fact nit serious or noticeable in 99%.
‘ just makes CoVid Less Serious™️’
This last lie about the ‘vaccines’ is about to fall. The trials were a fraud
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PD is the Question Time audience
PD is a TV Licence Holder
PD wears a mask when alone in a car
PD is an informant and collaborator
PD is the person, who can’t see a sick relative in hospital.
PD gave up downticking a while ago – just after a particularly good John Dee post.
At the moment, only two more have appeared – and they might well be the result of independent thought.
Perhaps PD has seen the light!
A Damascene conversion seems improbable for a covid bedwetter.
Yep – I read that wrong. We’ve both been punished.
PD is a bedwetter.
In dogs it is known as scent marking when they cock their legs on everything.
Gone too soon
Steve Black: Newcastle United and Falcons lead tributes as mentor and coach dies aged 64 – BBC Sport
I would be worried about this. The fact that the quadruple jabee’s had a high viral load should be investigated. Omicron is mild but if a new strain was more serious then these kind of infections in combination with them being more infectious would cause big problems.
You mean like Marek’s disease? It does seem to be a risk. They have rolled a die on this so-called vaccine. There are several horrific trajectories going forward.
The way evolution works is that any organism that acquires characteristics by mutation making it better adapted to its environment will be more successful at reproducing, will dominate and replace existing versions of the organism. Evolution is competitive. The serious characteristic of a new strain would make it far less adapted, less successful at reproducing and would probably disappear without being noticed.
The reason why other SARS virus quickly disappeared is because they were serious, made people quickly and obviously sick and thus immobile/easily isolated.
Gone too soon
Jamal Edwards, music entrepreneur and Youtube star, dies aged 31 – BBC News
Nothing on cause of death.
A short/sudden illness apparently.
Looks like he got in with a bad crowd which will have been promoting the evil juice to the young on behalf of their corporate masters:
After starting on the right pathway doing great things:
The son of a Loose Women presenter who we must pray for as her life wil never be the same again. We need to establish whether he had the injections but its almost guaranteed he did because when you become influenced by the agencies of Satan, like the Royals and the Brits, and you give yourself to corporate culture, you are no longer following the pathway of God, you are entering a world which promotes greed and evil and Satanic murderous injections to children. This is the story of the world we live in.
Gone too soon
Christopher Stalford: Stormont to pay tribute to DUP politician – BBC News
Nothing on cause of death.
Her Maj getting Covid must make an awful lot of people think that the shots that she will have had must be pretty useless.
They’ll think the jabs will have saved her.
Unless she croaks, and then we’ll have a brief revival of COVID hysteria.
The rule is, if you’re in your 80s or 90s and die of COVID, they make a big deal out of the cause of death. If you’re young and suddenly die, then the cause of death is of no interest and not mentioned at all.
If the Queen were to die, the BBC would have a dozen different experts on every 5 minutes insisting she died WITH CoVid not FROM CoVid, because being triple jabbed and masked whither she went, made it impossible for her to die FROM CoVid unlike car crash victims with fractured skulls who definitely died FROM CoVid because they had not been vaccinated but had tested PCR positive two weeks earlier. QED.
Oh, I think they’ll shift straight to “This is why we absolutely need 4 doses, just like hugely successful Israel”.
The gaslighting is roaring at the moment.
I suppose there is no harm in chipping away at the vaccine narrative with this sort of study.
I doubt it will be as convincing to the politicians and technocrats as a proper truckers protest, though.
For all their talk about science, what the policy makers really understand and respect is a good show of force and power.
Sadly that makes them self-satisfied solipsists, no?
You might have to give that to me in plain English.. 🙂
” OK, so the ‘vaccines’ haven’t stopped the spread of ‘Covid’, we all knew that, but what they have done is to have prevented millions from dying of ‘Covid’ or, at least, made the symptoms of those who got ‘Covid’ much less worse than what they COULD have been. ”
Well, that’s what all the sheep are saying!
“Better have some more ‘vaccinations’ just to make sure we are safe from the nasty virus.”
This is approximately the same efficacy as for the TB vaccine, which was eventually withdrawn as a vaccination given to all 14 year olds to only being administered to vulnerable groups.
Why are sceptics still discussing ‘covid’ data as if it has any meaning?
Agree with you entirely. It’s a bit like being in a prison cell and having a discussion about what paint the used for the walls and whether it might harm you if you lick it.
Very little of the ‘Covid’ data/numbers/statistics can be proved nor disproved.
To me, what the really important issue is, is that we are being mercilessly controlled by our governments – travel restrictions, forced brainwashing, coercion to get the ‘vaccines’ they are flogging; none of this is likely to stop until those running the show are hunted down and dealt with… and, as we have seen, that’s just not going to happen.
So it’s another ‘protest’ in London next Saturday – which is really just a few hours meeting friends and mooching about, then going for coffee and cake, and catching the 5pm train home.
Apart from the illusion of “it’s all over” with fewer people wearing face masks, the agenda remains firmly in place with Boris and pals treating the public with the derision they deserve. My best guess as to what will happen is that a 4th ‘vaccine’ is on the cards for the UK (and the rest of Europe), the Vaxx Pass will… Read more »
Yawn
As always alot of negativity but absolutely no ideas about how we would be more effective in fighting back.
In the absence of any positive suggestions why don’t you stop whingeing about people attending ‘protests’
Mr Fox, you deliberately leave out the possibility of using the ‘kebab stick’ to get round vax requirements for travel in much of the EU. Although the US has both as requirements I agree. Maybe the quickest route to more ‘freedom’ is to find ways of lobbying governments not to renew the EU travel pass for a further 12 months. Its still a ‘proposal’ at the moment, there will I hope be several countries not too keen on its renewal now.
Disastrous looking poll data for the Dems leading up to mid terms might , just might, persuade the US to tone down their Fed border travel restrictions.
If these outcomes were favourable, most other countries would remove their requirements in a flash.
“Apart from the illusion of “it’s all over””
We know very well it’s not “all over”. We’re not stupid.
Tell us about the effective approach you’ve taken to pushing back against covid measures, apart from tasteless mocking of people going to protests.
Does anyone know the level of reported ‘vax’ injuries in Israel? Is it comparable to the US and the UK?
And now the official story will change, they were never meant to prevent the spread but make the virus harmless if infected. That story will change too in time.
Were they ever, pfizer only tested healthy, non-elderly people who weren’t taking any other medicines, pregnant etc, for prevention against death and serious illness iirc.
The study was set up to make failure impossible, and even considering that they had people die and had to fudge the data/un-blind the study, choose who they tested and included in the data, etc, to get it through.
And even then they were shown to have an Absolute Risk Reduction of disease of only 0.84%… a rounding error. There is still no falsifiable data on prevention of hospitalisation or death. Since vaccinated people end up in hospital and some die, claims of reduced hospitalisations admissions and deaths cannot be supported. It just takes one death, one hospital case to falsify the claims.
Correct. The clot-shot manufacturers never made any claim except for protection against serious disease and death, and even then they had to fiddle the figures.
It was The Science (i.e. Fauci, Witless, Pantsdown et all) who then started telling us that the clot-shots protected against infection and transmission, based on absolutely nothing.
Even then all cause mortality was lower for the placebo group (which they tried to cover up)
This should’ve been enough to prevent a mass rollout of the jab.