In a last-ditch effort to persuade the Government not to lift all Covid restrictions in the coming weeks, SAGE has raised the alarm about the prospect of a new mutant strain emerging. MailOnline has more.
Documents released today from the panel’s last meeting, just a day after the PM revealed he intended to scrap all the leftover curbs in England, warned that any sudden change to the rules carries the potential to accelerate the pandemic and trigger a “rapid” rise in cases.
One paper discussed by SAGE, which delved into potential scenarios that could emerge over the next few years, dismissed the milder nature of Omicron as being a “chance” event and argued that it’s a “common misconception” that viruses evolve to become weaker.
It warned of a “realistic possibility” that a variant could spawn that is just as lethal as other coronaviruses known to strike humans, such as MERS, which has a 35 per cent case fatality rate. Mutations are more likely while circulation of the virus is high, the panel said.
Referencing the document in its minutes, SAGE warned that the scenario – which they’ve already floated before – remained a “valid” possibility. But the report also admitted that it was equally realistic that the virus will mutate to become less lethal over time.
Experts told MailOnline the estimate is an attempt to maintain the “project fear campaign” despite SAGE having “no way of estimating the likelihood of a deadly new strain appearing that is vaccine resistant”.
It comes as Britain’s Omicron wave continues to fizzle out, with official figures showing the outbreak shrunk on all three fronts again today. The U.K. logged another 47,685 cases, 158 deaths and 1,280 admissions linked to the virus.
Three new papers from the influential group’s last meeting on February 10th were put into the public domain today while three others were published last Friday, including one warning dropping the remaining restrictions would “increase anxiety”.
The PM’s announcement last week was widely seen as a desperate ploy to appease hardline anti-lockdown Tory backbenchers and fend off a flurry of no-confidence letters following a spate of allegations about illegal lockdown parties in Downing Street.
Mr Johnson’s blueprint will be checked over by ministers this weekend before being announced on Monday when Parliament returns from recess.
He has already faced vocal opposition to his plans, with senior NHS leaders calling on No10 to park plans to ditch free testing and the legal requirement for the infected to self-isolate.
Matthew Taylor, chief executive of NHS Confederation – which represents health boards, said “now is not the time to take risks”, saying the Government should not “wave a magic wand” and pretend the virus has disappeared.
Let’s hope Boris holds his nerve. You’d hope so, given how many times his scientific advisors have cried wolf in the last 12 months.
The contrast with Denmark is telling. There, restrictions were lifted at the start of the month based on modelling from its Government scientific advisers and with the support of all political parties. Who your Government scientists are and what they say can make all the difference. The fact that we’ve been lumbered with the lockdown fanatics and incorrigible (and perennially wrong) doom-mongers on SAGE goes a long way to explain why extricating ourselves from the over-the-top pandemic measures has been such an uphill struggle.
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As Howard Johnson said in Blazing Saddles ‘prairie shit’
German Health minister Lauterbach thinks that pandemic could last 10 years.Time to apply for a job in the SAGE team?
https://zeitung.faz.net/faz/politik/2022-02-19/83dc815095cdc900572e611a63e713b4/?GEPC=s3
It would be honest (no chance) if the data SAGE based its scare stories on was accurate. As far as I know they are still using all deaths of people positive tested for Covid irrespective of the main cause as Covid deaths. They are also not publicly accepting as a committee that infection from having Covid and recovering gives far better immunity than any of the current vaccines.
Of course there is a chance of anew strain being more lethal or an entirely new virus arriving which is also more dangerous in the same way that the number of deaths many times more than actually occured that Professor nutcase lockdown Ferguson predicted in his wildly inaccurate model predictions, but what may be remotely possible is not and should not be the basis for nation-wide restrictions. If these evens occur I’m sure parliament and the general population would be in favour of correctly assessed action which could be enacted quite quickly. In the meatime lets properly analyse the bias and motives of all members of the SAGE committee and remove those who fail that analysis and get on with our lives.
These are fantasists not scientists, their positions depend entirely on restrictions being in place.
I have just been told by a Florist that they are very, very busy – apparently they are overwhelmed with flower display orders for funerals….well I never!
What could possibly be the reason for the surge ?
The protests in Canada have achieved one of their goals, to restrict money going where they don’t want it to go, to get the banks to stop private money going to unapproved sources. This is a goal which if they get their one bank will have massive repercussions for everyone, where they decide to distribute your money and what will they stop you buying
If releasing us could cause anxiety, then let the SAGE-terrified keep themselves in perpetual lockdown forever. It will save them the cost of masks. Anyone worried about catching the coof in pubs and restaurants, should also stay home.
I am sick of people wearing masks outside and sat in their own cars alone.
Public sector want their lockdowns to stay as they are. What is the point of a GP from now on, if we cannot see them? They should be paid for seeing patients IRL and not for having them registered.
12 months? I make it two years and counting. These planks haven’t called anything correctly during this whole merde-show.
Actually John, for the past 20 years thay have been consistently and spectacularly wrong in ALL their modelling and predictions. . Yet they’re still employed.
Unhinged lunatics with no credibility remaining. My respect for the scientific method may remain but my respect for scientists has gone forever.
Why does anyone listen to what these liars have to say about anything?
SAGE know that if all the restriction are lifted Johnson will never be allowed to impose them again without Parliamentary approval which he won’t get from Conservative MPs.
They’ve resorted to scaremongering again because IT’S ALL THEY HAVE.
”We’ve been lumbered with…..”
And who lumbered us with them? Johnson could get rid of them at a stroke if he had the will to do so. At least – that’s how it SHOULD be. Unless they’re in someone else’s gang.
Of course they have to warn of pending pandemic issues.
New warnings and codewords have been issued
Do you have to show us his face?
Is that Dr Bill Gates?like Our Mr Gove, own wife don’t trust him…
What puzzles me is why the Governnent has not sought to broaden the representation on SAGE?. Presumably any UK signatories of the GBD are automatically disbarred? What are the term limits of SAGE members? Are they allowed to serve in perpetuity? Common sense is beginning to break out in some countries but only in the UK do scientific advisers appear to be hooked on this lockdown psuedo science. It begs the question how expert are these experts really? Perhaps the drivers can be explained by a disproportionate number of nudgers, wonky modellers, NHS lobbyists and researchers funded by the Gates foundation in their ranks or am I being unfair?
It’s an interesting question, the extent to which the government were played by SAGE or whether SAGE was serving a useful purpose for the government. I tend to think more the latter – advisors who say things governments don’t want to hear usually get sacked – though I suppose it’s possible the government created a monster they couldn’t control and feared the political consequences of looking like they were suppressing “the science” having previously lauded it.
Medical science and climate change science is what they are hoping in the UK, will become our new ‘Industry’, we have nothing else.
That is what Reiner Fuellmich is looking into in the Court of Public Opinion.
Sage up to their old lying tricks again? Why is Boris listening to these idiots? They have done their jobs now – and cause more harm than good and now they should stay out of politics. Too bad if the big-pharma shares of some of them is going to fall..
Get some proper scientists in! There must be thousands of them who have been silenced that would put Whitty and co to shame. Come on Whitty and co, let them have a full public debate with you – why not? Too afraid of losing? Too cowardly. Let the many doctors who have had far better results with non-vaccination demonstrate how they did this – even though it would probably risk the continued existence of the unproved jabs that have been handed out. Why not let proper debate come fully out into public scrutiny? Why won’t Sage even contemplate it? The tyranny is still there and needs to be weakened even further. For God’s sake Boris, don’t be swayed.. You must know full well about the silenced research. Grow a pair!
Perhaps he can’t. Perhaps he’s just another useful idiot.
Surely that bunch should be called ‘SAG’ now – redundant ‘E’.
For the same reason he won’t close down the BBC. They come in useful as a control mechanism for propaganda.
He would’ve done everything they asked, even lockdown after Christmas if it wasn’t for some good old school back benchers.
SAGE aren’t.
Any clinicians who provides false information which affects an individual’s medical outcome be it taking or not taking a vaccine is failing in Professional Duty, can be reported to GMC. If they are considered as acting politically not medically they are protected
Just as the vaccine manufacturers were given immunity from the damage they cause so are these clinicians and scientists. The majority of politicians and media are ill equipped educationally to understand the data. SAGE etc is littered with individuals who are prepared to experiment on society with guesswork. They see their predictions and know how they are used. There is no excuse and the excess deaths need to be explained and if this group caused them they should be held to account.
The GMC are in on the Covid scam. No-one is going to hold themselves to account.
Exactly! Same all over the world – Gates has been working hard!
When even the ‘elf sekitairy’ is scientifically illiterate, there’s not a lot of hope.
They simply just don’t care any longer, they have control of all the Regulatory Bodies! Just look at the behaviour of MHRA. and the GMC
The Long March has meant a clean sweep of integrity from all our Institutions – we are defenceless – they can do i as they please!
The “new” SAGE scenario has always been a possibility, with any infection. It is, however, an extremely remote possibility of the same order of magnitude as a strike by a large piece of space rock.
Get your reinforced umbrellas here!
The sad thing though is that the sheep graze on this sort of idiocy.
“Could”, “possible”, and “maybe” must – or maybe lol, the most overused and inappropriate of words ever utilised in recent history.
In the end we all die – and there ain’t no maybe about that one.
That said, our brilliant geneticists are working on mrna therapies against ageing.- even as I speak they are looking at ways to prevent telomeres from shortening. Immortality beckons…..for the chosen.
Not for me, thanks. But I daresay a certain Mr Swab might appreciate it – he must be increasingly aware of time’s winged chariot hurrying near.
Might be a bit sooner than he thinks, and for a few others. I’m very surprised that none of these people have been assassinated, considering what happens to a lot of leaders. I’m pretty sure after last year you won’t see Whitty in the street again…..
“Swab “…. I never noticed the clue to his agenda hidden in his name before!
The mere fact that these idiots haven’t been sacked en masse, for gross incompetency having been wrong in their doom laden forecasts, shows that the government are still listening to them. What a complete bunch of total morons we have governing us, from all quarters.
Not morons – have a look at their bank statements. And then have a look at your next electricity, water and gas bills.
Exactly. And not ”incompetent” either. Just cleverly manipulative.
I often wonder though, why a few more of them don’t break ranks… The bigger the group, surely the more the chance of dissent.
Money and power are the motivators for compliance which is why we now have so many weak leaders in the West.
All in it together to share the winnings!
We would be better off under the Sicilian Mafia – at least they had “Family Loyalty”.
The convenient shopping trolley, keeping everyone in confusion. What they did to holiday makers, even the compliant, changing the rules so people have to rush back to avoid the detention centres is outrageous.
Exactly – we are the “morons” for still believing a single word any poltician, bought MS journalist or minion has to say on anything.
The term is useful idiots. They are in the Frontline for a purpose being used by governments as cover for what the government really wants to bring about. The government is itself a front for the unelected Puppet Masters who couldn’t be elected democratically. We are now entering the crush all rebellion stage as can be witnessed with our colonial cousins. All regimes fall eventually. We haven’t had to endure real hardship yet, but we will.
Sacked by whom? Those who wrote their terms and the scope of SAGE’s ‘advice’?
SAGE delivered exactly what was asked of them by politicians.
It is the polticians and the Deep State we need to challenge! Remember Javid and the Doctor’s well informed but ‘wrong advice’.
Deutsche Banker Javid ( see Reiner Fuellmich) lost all credibility at a stroke! (no pun intended)
Boris needs to get these people in a room and tell he’s running the country and to shut the hell up. Beyond me why he doesn’t.
That’s whats Wilson did in 1968, he didn’t want the populace scared so told them to keep quite.
“Beyond me why he doesn’t.”
Because he doesn’t want to? He just wants to be ‘Prime Minister’ and bathe in the ‘important person’ light. And then retire with a handsome pension, cushy ‘consultant job’ on some board which will provide more money, and he’ll have a couple of Policeman stood outside his door in case any plebs happen to turn up to give him grief.
What is beyond me is why people think that ‘Boris’ is going to be some ‘saviour’ – he’s in on the scam up to his neck. As we have seen over and over again – no face masks in the midst of a ‘pandemic’. Ask the journalist whom Boris helped to arrange to have beaten up what kind of a person Boris is.
I think you have it!
Yup, one of the young global leaders.
Well sage may be right, because dr.Geert Vanden Bossche has been warning it is a mistake to vaxx during a pandemic, which is exactly what sage did. By doing so it is driving the virus to mutate to exist, sometimes becoming more virulent.
oh well sage has done a horrible job so far. no doubt their continued bad advice will prevail and more people will die. The majority right now with covid and in hospital all triple jabbed. Thanks for all the help sage.
SAGE have done exactly what they meant to do – frighten the population and see their bank accounts get fatter.
The deeper the hole the harder it is to get out….
…..and meet their obligations to their friends in GAVI ,the WHO, the WEF and the UN.
It is also common knowledge that Gates has all the world’s Health Agencies in his pocket… as well as the MS Media of course.
I’d have to make the observation that since the beginning of the covid-19 outbreak, the record of SAGE (the UK Govt.’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies) has been: Not good.
The record, overall, has been so utterly and categorically abysmal, that it makes me wonder how well a similarly constituted group, consisting of a wide range of highly respected experts in their respective fields, would potentially deal with an actual emergency.
SAGE is an example of scientific groupthink gone wild.
Isn’t it more an example of greed, lust for power and attention? Unless you think they actually believe in the rubbish they come out with? I suppose they might, but it seems unlikely to me.
True story:
In the late 1930s, Government military, scientific and public health experts advised UK Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain that German Luftwaffe bombing of London and other cities could potentially kill 300,000 people in the first month of a war. The UK Government stockpiled millions of death certificates and made arrangement for the digging of mass graves in London’s parks.
I will note that, at the time this advisory was made, no German plane in service had the range to make a round-trip flight to the UK from the closest Luftwaffe airbase. And that, in practice, German bombing of the UK through five years of war, including the use of rockets, resulted in the deaths of 70,000 civilians.
Government experts were off by several orders of magnitude in their predictions in 1938. And this over-estimate led, in no small part, to Chamberlain’s decision to concede large parts of Czechoslovakia to Hitler at the Munich Conference.
I’m sure the 1938 experts thought they were doing the right thing. Just as the 2020 experts were.
History hasn’t been kind to Chamberlain for caving in to Hitler in 1938. I doubt that history will be any kinder to the politicians… Read more »
Very good points, well put.
Interesting – thanks for that info. I was not aware of it. I think it’s quite plausible SAGE believed a disaster was imminent in early 2020, less convinced that they have much faith in their latest nonsense.
I expect they still believe they did the right thing in early 2020, and they probably use doublethink to believe calling for continued restrictions is the right thing even though intellectually they probably know it’s all lies
They probably DO know it, but never mind, eh? It inflated the bank balances nicely. Never let a good emergency go to waste.
The story of how the British Government let “experts” and then “public opinion” drive its response to the threat of the Luftwaffe actually gets worse, if you can believe it. And, I think, these failures eerily foreshadow the catastrophe we have been living through the past two years.
Immediately on the outbreak of war in September 1939, the UK instituted a nationwide night-time blackout. Householders were expected to cover their windows with thick curtains, air raid wardens roamed the streets handing out fines and berating those deemed to have broken regulations. People were prosecuted for lighting a cigarette outdoors.
Blackout regulations included severely limiting car headlights, as well as the extinguishing of all street lights. With the result that collisions, deaths and injuries among pedestrians and the occupants of cars skyrocketed. From September 1939 until the start of the Blitz a year later, British Government policy was killing an average of 300 people a month, without the Luftwaffe having to go to the bother of actually sending planes over.
Once the night-time bombing of London and other cities did begin in earnest in late 1940, the British Government felt compelled to act. Lacking effective night-fighters, or sufficient long-range anti-aircraft artillery,… Read more »
Again, thanks for the info. Interesting.
I did read something once about people getting flattened by cars with no lights during WW2.
I wholeheartedly agree.
Surely SAGE were in on the Global Covid Scam from day one?
They would surely have been tipped off by the Gates run WHO?
Ferguson does modelling for one of the Gates organisations.
The politicians and ‘experts’ know exactly what they’re doing with ‘Covid’. They have made no mistakes.
They have imprisoned the population and got them to do silly dog tricks such as wear masks and ‘shields’ and go and queue up at the jabbing stations, and rub their hands together with ‘sanitiser’.
‘Covid’ is all about people control and making money out of it.
Sadly, I think you’re right. Those of us who kept an eye on things right from the beginning could see how this was evolving. Yet still people think it can be solved eventually by ”voting them out”, ”prosecuting them”, ”holding them to account” – as it was in the past. I don’t think most see how much things have changed – and that there hasn’t been any ”incompetence”, but quite the reverse, in fact.
The swift retribution taking place in Canada right now should ring warning bells. But I don’t suppose it will.
I don’t believe these pseudo scientists are doing the right thing. They are doing this to get accreditation for vaccines that would otherwise take over a decade. They are doing this for pharma money and for ego, thinking they will go down in history as next Alexander Fleming. Maybe it started off as doing right thing in part but there is no way you can justify it in the face of the evidence. Now they have to continue or lose in their eyes the credibility they think they still have. Like Johnson they will find out they are despised, that’s ironies of life.
Except the group of experts didn’t include immunologists but did include behavioural psychologists. Perhaps they didn’t realise that the problem was a virus and thought it was a bad thought? In essence, if SAGE was the answer then someone asked the wrong question
Unless they’re doing exactly what they were formed to do, of course. In which case, they’re right on track. It’s surprising that people even here think that this began with good intent, and don’t even consider the alternative, which may or may not be ‘conspiracy’ stuff.
Check out this 6 minute video about a 1995 Illuminati Card Game that predicted 9/11 and the COVID-19 plandemic. This game was created by Occultist Steve Jackson.
If you look at the cards that this game is played with, you’ll see that in 1995 they clearly made eerie predictions about what the Western world has experienced since at least 2001. It’s as if the creator copied the format for this game from a script that was in the process of being implemented on populations across the West.
The most noted predictions made by these cards were the 9/11 attacks on the Twin Towers and Pentagon in 2001. There are also predictions about epidemics and serums.
In case anyone thinks these Illuminati Card Game predictions are based on supernatural stuff like Nostradamus or clairvoyance, or that I’ve been reading tea leaves, they are not.
The Cabal likes to boast about what it intends doing and is also very big into symbolism. Putting out blatant hints about what they intend doing can be construed as the Cabal asking permission to interfere in our lives. It is very much like the myth of vampires being unable to enter a victim’s home unless first… Read more »
I remember playing this game back in 1997. I killed off my opponent’s Princess Diana card with a Hit and Run assassination card that featured the illustration of a speeding car. Exactly a week later, the real Diana died in that car crash. It was a rather unnerving coincidence.
Have you read Mark Devlin’s Musical Truths? It”s right up your street. Clairvoyance isn’t supernatural by the way. My wife and her mum use it daily, with accuracy – to the extent that to us it’s become, through familiarity, mundane. I’ve moved from being sceptical to seeing it as a yet undiscovered-by-science facet of humanity.
Revelation Of The Method
Steve Jackson? Didn’t he write those “fighting fantasy” books with the green spines? My son loved those. You know…”If you fight the goblin with an axe, turn to page 64. If you use the cloak of invisibility, turn to page 17″. Rather clever.
This at the same time the MSM continue to demonise Djokovic on a daily basis. There was a Daily Mail article the other day ripping into the Serbian president, calling him a tyrant, corrupt and a suppressor of free press.
Of course this being a response to him supporting the world number one tennis player whom happens to be Serbian.
The irony of these accusations seem to just ping off the corrupt skulls of those writing this BS.
You actually read the Mail garbage?
Doesn’t Dan Wotton write for the Mail….He seems to be a good egg, remember him criticising Lockdowns right from the start. Along with Hitchens and a few others, a lone voice.
And what will the next cyberattack accomplish?
Will we all log on to our bank accounts, only to find all the money has mysteriously disappeared?
Until the Canada crisis, I would have put such a possibility firmly under Science Fiction.
Now I’m not so sure.
Reality is way more stupid than Monty Python now.
Oh for pity’s sake. These people must be frightened of their own shadows.
No, they just want us to be!
They know this is all nonsense, that’s why they don’t follow the rules themselves.
They will not call it off until their Globalist Billionaire sponsors stand them down.
We are under unrelenting assault from politically motivate individuals working to an unending psy-op plan, endorsed by our Government, backed by the MSM to wear us into the ground.
How long before Canada Aus and NZ horrors happen here?
I thought the same had already happened in the UK – with the ‘unvaccinated’ not allowed to travel unless they pay for PCR tests, face masks everywhere, and millions already injected three times…
Can anyone hazard a guess at what’s coming next? My best guess is no real changes, just a 4th ‘vaccine’ coming for those who wish to keep their Vaxx Passes valid. I have a feeling that this time next year, February 2023, people will still be wearing face masks in the UK.
SAGE and Boris & pals can introduce a ‘new variant’ anytime they fancy to scare people all over again. Will they buy it? Err… yes.
Masks in England have been optional since July last year other than brief interlude around Christmas, same with all other restrictions other than the travel business and self isolation. Very bad indeed, yes, but much better than Canada, NZ and Aus. Am I happy about this? No. Am I glad I live in England and not most other countries in the world? Yes. Am I deluded that our leaders wish us well? No. Am I glad Trudeau is not in charge here? Yes.
Yes they will buy it – the ignorance out there is stupifying!
I find it hard to decide whether Johnson is just playing for time and will fall into line with the Fascistic excesses we see elsewhere – when he gets his orders from Bill
Currently his easing up is obviously just a pause tactic to stand down the opposition ( worked well on NHS workers who were gaining momentum).
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Our worry must be the devil buried in the ‘On Line Harms Bill’, the ‘Bill of Rights’ power grab over our ‘bodily integrity” and the dystopian vision for the NHS as a “Medical Tyranny Digital Control Hub” – all of it in the pipe line to be nodded through by a Craven One Party Parliament.
Currently Johnson is fully occupied by his “Top Poodle to the US” role over the cooked-up Ukraine nonsense.
I don’t think I have heard such utter hysterical and laughable garbage spoken by so many UK and US diplomats and politicians as in defence of their “Ukraine Russian Invasion BS Scam”.
( Johnson currently spouting the most absurd “Russia Hate” BS ever heard from a PM ( (including Blair) on the ‘Russia Threat’)
Thumbs down if you have a tiny penis.
Hahahahaha.
The same guy who downvotes everything?
I think you have proved that the downticker can’t read. And probably still has a tiny penis.