Vaccine passports do little to stop coronavirus transmission at festivals, but should still be considered anyway to increase vaccine uptake in young people, scientists advising the Government have said. It’s the first time advisers have admitted the vaccines do not prevent transmission but have argued the illiberal policy should be adopted purely to coerce people to do something for their own benefit. The Telegraph has the story.
A newly released paper by the Environmental Modelling Group (EMG) shows that researchers admit that vaccine passes have a “limited impact” on the spread of the virus because even vaccinated people can have breakthrough infections, and immunity wanes over time.
However, they argue that they could be used as a “policy lever” to improve the number of young people being vaccinated.
The paper, which was submitted to the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) said: “Although vaccinated individuals are less likely than others to be infectious, it is important to recognise that, whilst protection against severe disease is very high, protection against infection is incomplete and that breakthrough infections can still lead to onward transmission.
“Emerging evidence shows that protection against infection wanes over time, the longer the duration since attendee’s last Covid vaccination, the less indicative vaccination status could be of protection against infection.
“For these reasons vaccine certification, per se, is likely to have a limited impact on reducing transmission at festivals. However, it should be noted that the introduction of vaccine certification has been linked to increased vaccine uptake.
“Given higher vaccine complacency in certain groups, such as youth who perceive lower risks of infection, this intervention could be an additional policy lever to increase vaccine uptake and population level immunity.”
Critics of vaccine passports have long argued that even fully vaccinated people are capable of catching and transmitting the virus and so certification should not be used to stop people from attending events or travelling.
But it is the first time that Government scientists have admitted that they could be used primarily for forcing people to be vaccinated, rather than to stop the spread of the virus.
The Telegraph article notes the new report suggests the Government is again considering vaccine passports for mass events such as summer festivals. Let’s hope this is just an aberration from the modellers rather than something the Government would be foolish and wicked enough to implement. When is the Government going to let the emergency – including all vaccine-related requirements – end?
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IF there’s not room for VIP lanes for deals it won’t happen.
These Hobgoblin scares are there purely to let the political classes enrich themselves at taxpayer expense and put us in our place.
Do they follow the rules they set for us when the MSM tell them they’ve stopped filming? Nope!
What has disgusted me from the moment his farce began back in March 2020 is the total failure of bodies like NICE, who are meant to implement health economics in the UK, to speak out on this. The irrational and immoral privileging of a few months of a nonagenarian life, over the well being of children, is not only universally ethically rotten, it goes against NICE’s basic role. And they said nothing at all.
Everyone we pay to look after our health failed. And it’s worsening – our health bureaucracy is now solidly behind literally sacrificing children’s lives, for the greater good.
‘for the greater good’ of pharma and the politicians that they bribe.
Boris will be getting millions in back handers in due course.
There is enough evidence out there now to show that there were no benefits to anything they did regarding Covid. None of it has made any difference to the outcome. At least for the majority
Yes. But they won’t countenance it. They are so deeply embedded in the International Groupthink that they will never accept the evidence.
“None of it has made any difference to the outcome.” not quite true – I think a few more elderly died sooner than expected in the care homes.
The more I read about covid and related matters the more I realise that the narrative provided by SAGE people doesn’t stack up whereas that provided by scientific experts in the relevant fields does.
‘SAGE COVID-19 register of participants’ interests is very interesting, ie how many Honorary and connections to the Pharma industry
I twigged when I looked at the actual numbers from the Diamond Princess cruise ship back in early April 2020.
The raw data showed all of the serious cases among the elderly passengers and non among the working age crew was a clear indicator that Covid is dangerous for the infirm but not for healthy adults.
That combined with a cruise ship being the ideal place for a virus to spread proved that cv-19 was a minor issue right from the start, even for the oldies.
No sh#t sherlock
more studies of the bleedingly obvious.
No one ever got poor by pointing out the bleeding obvious.
There are considerable benefits to certain people and organisations from lockdowns; the virus is just a convenient vehicle for the sociopaths to carry through their agenda. The Untermensch matter not in the slightest in their calculations.
The crippling, unaffordable cost is one of the points. You can’t Build Back Better until you’ve destroyed the Old Normal.
Try recategorising lockdowns as an economic instrument, then decide if they are effective. I don’t think they’re about stopping anything other than economic activity.
Deliberate wrecking of the economy? Seems feasible. Glancing through some old papers given me for the chickens (they are keen readers), I see
a Nov 29 Times piece headlined “Third of manufacturers close to tipping point” due to lockdown debt, staff shortages, inflation and supply problems. I can’t imagine constantly being threatened with more pingde ic and lockdowns-by-other-names is helping these guys.
Pushed into bankruptcy by parasites that have never done a days honest work in their lives..
and still they claim “deaths prevented” as a benefit when we can be sure there were no deaths prevented except in Professor Pantsdown’s fantasy world.
Good work being done into death research here by Denis Rancourt
Jerm Warfare With Denis Rancourt – No Evidence Of A Pandemic
https://www.bitchute.com/video/fQmwzC3JiFQY/
When something is built on lies.. only further lies can maintain its existence..
For your disbelieving friends show them this chart from the BMJ.. it say’s it all..
There never was a pandemic.. EVER!!!!
“just think how bad it would have been without the lockdowns/masks/hysteria” they’ll say.
they do say
Yes they do – repeatedly!
Along with “lives saved” numbers based on Imperial fantasy modelling.
But it wasn’t, Belarus has proved this.
My boss has told me to prepare for a Christmas lockdown. The Guardianistas apparently think the scheduled 18th Dec press conference will be when it is announced.
Help me, I honestly don’t know if I can take this bullshit today.
I don’t think they will lockdown Christmas, possibly January. That said I’m not sure the treasury will go along with it any more. The economy will literally collapse if we do this again.
Await more useless measures like rule of 6.
A collapse is the end goal.. its just that the perpetrators don’t want to be seen implicated with its cause..
Here’s one who’ll be taking no notice whatsoever of what comes out of the puppetry..
We’re nowhere near the situation of last year, especially wrt hospitalizations and deaths. All which is happening at the moment is winter with an endemic virus and a mass testing machinery not fit for any purpose save generating fake COVID case stats doing just that. Also, Boris latest masking decree essentially fell through: Yes, use of masks has regrown to frightening proportions but no, it’s not being enforced anywhere, not even to the point of asking people if they’re excempt.
There’s some ground for cautious optimism.
except Salford!
Vaccines for 5-11 year-olds and recommended home-working are among the new rules.
Twenty-five cases of the Omicron variant have now been identified in France
This is France.. right next door.. taking full advantage of OMACRON.
Read this below and weep. If anybody thinks this will not be tried in UK they’re smoking hopium..
https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/France-announces-six-new-Covid-measures-in-bid-to-combat-fifth-wave
Of course they won’t have factored in all the future deaths and illness that will come about as the jabs do their work.
This Xmas, can you give your body to big pharma? They need you now, more than ever.
Sorry. Can’t hear you (because I have put my fingers in my ears). Just sticking to the narrative and wearing both my masks. Na na na na na.
Hope you are wearing a plastic visor as well as two masks. You can’t be too careful!
Incidentally, I saw someone walking around the local town centre yesterday wearing blue plastic gloves as well as a mask – don’y see them very often now as they seem to no longer be part of the recommended Covidian ritual garb.
Honestly its time to take the science into our own hands, and seize power and control for ourselves.