Spotify Backs Joe Rogan and Removes Neil Young’s Music After Young Said it Must Choose Between Them Over Rogan’s ‘Vaccine Misinformation’

Wrinkly rocker Neil Young told Spotify to choose between him and Joe Rogan over alleged Covid misinformation – and the streaming service has chosen Rogan, saying it has a responsibility to balance safety and freedom.

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Wrinkly rocker Neil Young told Spotify to choose between him and hit podcast host Joe Rogan over alleged Covid misinformation – and the streaming service has chosen Rogan, saying it has a responsibility to balance safety and freedom. The Guardian has more.

The music streaming platform Spotify is in the process of removing Neil Young’s music after the company refused to take down Joe Rogan’s podcast amid the musician’s objections that it spread vaccine misinformation.

Rogan has been described by the New York Times as “one of the most consumed media products on the planet”. His podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience, is Spotify’s most popular. In 2020, Rogan signed a $100m deal that gave the streaming company exclusive rights to the show.

But this week, Young posted an open letter to his manager and record label that was later taken down in which he said: “With an estimated 11 million listeners per episode, [The Joe Rogan Experience], which is hosted exclusively on Spotify, is the world’s largest podcast and has tremendous influence. Spotify has a responsibility to mitigate the spread of misinformation on its platform, though the company presently has no misinformation policy.”

The musician added: “I want you to let Spotify know immediately TODAY that I want all my music off their platform … They can have Rogan or Young. Not both.”

A Spotify spokesperson confirmed to the Hollywood Reporter on Wednesday that the platform was taking down Young’s music.

“We want all the world’s music and audio content to be available to Spotify users. With that comes great responsibility in balancing both safety for listeners and freedom for creators. We have detailed content policies in place and we’ve removed over 20,000 podcast episodes related to Covid since the start of the pandemic. We regret Neil’s decision to remove his music from Spotify, but hope to welcome him back soon,” the spokesperson said.

Since the pandemic, Rogan, who has legions of devoted followers, has repeatedly spread misleading and false claims. This month, 270 doctors, scientists, healthcare professionals and professors wrote an open letter to Spotify, expressing concern about medical misinformation on Rogan’s podcast.

The letter highlighted a highly controversial episode from December that features Robert Malone, a virologist who was involved in the mRNA vaccine technology that led to some of the leading COVID-19 vaccines but has since been criticised for spreading vaccine misinformation.

“This is not only a scientific or medical concern; it is a sociological issue of devastating proportions and Spotify is responsible for allowing this activity to thrive on its platform,” the letter read.

In the wake of the catalogue deletion announcement, Young posted a new message on his website further castigating Spotify as “the home of life-threatening Covid misinformation. Selling lies for money.”

He said he made the decision because of worries that young Spotify users were “impressionable and easy to swing to the wrong side of the truth. These people believe Spotify would never present grossly unfactual information. They unfortunately are wrong. I knew I had to try to point that out.”

Young said the decision – which is supported by his Warner Bros-owned record label, which controls his music – would cost him 60% of his worldwide streaming income.

All that in order to get a fellow entertainer sacked over disagreeing with some of his guests’ views.

The specific allegations against Rogan are somewhat obscure. The only one mentioned in the Guardian article above is that he hosted Dr. Robert Malone in December – an eminent scientist with a background in mRNA technology who happens to be sceptical about these particular vaccines, not least because he himself almost died of a reaction to his second jab. What a truly odd thing to take a costly stand over.

The Guardian‘s unqualified statement that Rogan “has repeatedly spread misleading and false claims” would also seem libellous. If you follow the link supposedly backing up this smear it takes you to a December 2020 Guardian article which cites as its first example that “one of Rogan’s guests suggested the virus may have been ‘enhanced’ and escaped from a lab”. Fancy that. That example didn’t age well. The only other piece of pandemic-related ‘misinformation’ cited is Elon Musk’s claim on Rogan’s show in May 2020 that hospitals were over-counting Covid hospital patients and deaths and had a financial incentive to do so. Given this issue is now widely recognised it’s hard to see it as ‘misinformation’ worth going to the stake over. Why take such drastic action on such a flimsy charge sheet?

Refreshing to see a corporation resisting pressure to cancel someone regarded as out of step with the mainstream. Let’s hope the boycott fizzles out now and doesn’t escalate and make life difficult for Spotify.

In related news, the left-wing rag the Washington Post is trying to make trouble for Substack for hosting people the newspaper labels “anti-vaxxers”. Substack CEO Chris Best, apparently responding, wrote in a blog post a defence of the importance of free speech and tolerance that Neil Young and others reaching for the cancel button would do well to heed:

While we have content guidelines that allow us to protect the platform at the extremes, we will always view censorship as a last resort, because we believe open discourse is better for writers and better for society. 

This position has some uncomfortable consequences. It means we allow writers to publish what they want and readers to decide for themselves what to read, even when that content is wrong or offensive, and even when it means putting up with the presence of writers with whom we strongly disagree. But we believe this approach is a necessary precondition for building trust in the information ecosystem as a whole. The more that powerful institutions attempt to control what can and cannot be said in public, the more people there will be who are ready to create alternative narratives about what’s ‘true’, spurred by a belief that there’s a conspiracy to suppress important information. When you look at the data, it is clear that these effects are already in full force in society. 

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Bellacovidonia
Bellacovidonia
4 years ago

Neil Young and Joni Mitchell. ‘ in respect of Spotify revenues, you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone”😩

SomersetHoops
SomersetHoops
4 years ago

It seems to me that Spotify has researched the information given by Rogan and found it to be quite likely true. The research that Neil Young has failed to undertake before trying ti instigate cancel culture. It seems to me that performers should concentrate on their performances rather than their opinions. If Neil Young wants to validate his opinions I think he has left it too late in life to take up a new career as a virologist or scientist to enable them to have any credibility.

hurleyp
hurleyp
4 years ago

Found on the interwebs

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JayBee
JayBee
4 years ago

https://amgreatness.com/2022/01/27/the-needle-and-the-damage-done/
“The entire conflict between Young and Rogan is a metaphor for broader differences between Boomers and Generation X. 

In contrast to their opponents, Rogan and other COVID vaccine skeptics have not tried to ban, shame, or impoverish the vaccinated. They have not wished them ill or sought to deprive them of medical care. The venom and will to control is an entirely one-sided affair. They—we—simply want to be allowed to make our own decisions regarding a new medical treatment with unknown long-term consequences in the face of what is, for almost everyone, and particularly the young, a highly survivable health threat.  
….
The Baby Boomer generation exemplified their characteristic disregard for restraint and proportion in their collective response to the COVID crisis. The implicit assumption of the entire public health establishment, with their lockdowns, vaccine mandates, mass firings, and draconian mask rules imposed on children, is that the young must be sacrificed for the old. The generation that never wanted to get old does not know how to handle their impending and inevitable mortality with grace and magnanimity.   
Thus, Neil Young is a perfect exemplar of the Baby Boomers: He made some great music, but his politics and self-absorption are a… Read more »

lorrinet
lorrinet
4 years ago

I’ve been a life-long fan of Neil Young. Sadly, very creative people have a strong tendency to be on the left politically. I’m afraid this stance by Young is going to influence my enjoyment of his music, as it has with Springsteen and others. I just cannot in the end separate the man from the music. Shame.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  lorrinet

Creative people who are not on the political left have a strong chance for getting stonewalled by it.

Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago

Oh no, I won’t be able to listen to his music! Ummm, who is he again?
Good on Spotify not to give into childish blackmail.

Smudger
Smudger
4 years ago

Well done Spotify.

RTSC
RTSC
4 years ago

Someone once wrote a song called “The needle and the damage done.” Shame he forgot it.

Lowe
Lowe
4 years ago

Babylon Bee has a nice story about this: Strong Spike In Google Searches For ‘Who Is Neil Young’

godders
godders
4 years ago

Well done, Spotify, for refusing to bow to blackmail by a dinosaur rocker who should be ashamed himself for joining the censors.
Let’s hope Substack stands as firm against the egregious campaign, led by the rabid pro-Establishment mouthpiece Centre for Countering Digital Hate, to silence all criticism of the official pandemic/vaccines narrative.
Without free speech there can be no freedom.

dopamineboy
dopamineboy
4 years ago

Sen. Rand Paul on Young – “Bye Bye, Hey Hey Neil Young is gone today It’s better to boycott Than to just obey Bye Bye, Hey Hey.” “Even though Ohio is one of the greatest protest songs of all time, free speech is kinda important also.”

Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Old man take a look at my life

I’m a lot like you

I need someone to love me

the whole day through

Ah, one look in my eyes

and you can tell that’s true.

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago

Oh, oh, the damage done. What has happened to baby boomers. These people that lived this (compared to now) unimaginably free existence and had all this great music with a belief in freedom and a better world and calling out “the man”, all (but a tiny minority) reduced to a bunch of government loving brainwashed Convid fanatics. Theyve only had Vietnam, Iraq wars – babies being thrown out of incubators and WMDs, 911, 77, Kennedy, Moon Landings…… they have had more than enough compelling proof fly through their television driven existence that the world is controlled by lying criminals and that trusting these people when they come out with a new scam is the action of a fool. But the TV says otherwise. All rise – the Boomer God of television still rules these people and will do for the rest of their lives. Tragic

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago

The king is gone but hes not forgotten, this is the story of Johnny Rotten:

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LonePatriot
LonePatriot
4 years ago

Joe Rogan said his doctor, Pierre Kory, is part of a group that has used Ivermectin to quietly treat 200 Members of U.S. Congress for COVID19. Dr Simone Gold, from America’s Frontline Doctors, told that she has prescribed treatments for Congress. She still believes in her oath, but she is vocal saying she has been contacted by many in DC. Can you believe these demons? Healing for them are OK but not for us. Get your Ivermectin while you still can! https://ivmpharmacy.com

eon
eon
4 years ago

Rogan should sue them. I suspect it’s the Maya Yang person and not the other author, who’s article history is about music only.

https://www.theguardian.com/profile/maya-yang

I wonder if a GoFundMe setup by the small army of lockdown sceptics etc. refuting this bollocks might make the newspapers think twice about publishing rubbish?

Didn’t that use to be a thing in the UK? You couldn’t just make a sweeping casual statement without fear of being sued.

Gregoryno6
Gregoryno6
4 years ago

How’d that work out for ya, Neil?

kate
kate
4 years ago

27/01/2022, 20.15 hours.
From Philip Hyland, Lois Bayliss and Mark Sexton.
Today 200 further statements were submitted to CID at Hammersmith Police.
Whistleblowers statements including from GP’s, vax damaged victims, NHS staff citing coercion and Blackmail.
Also, significant evidence of the Manslaughter/Murder of victims involved in the Hydroxychloroquine trials, where excessive doses were given to discredit the drug in order to bring in the emergency powers.
A video showing the Duty Inspector at Hammersmith Police Station confirming a live investigation, the crime number 6029679/21 is attached and evidence has been and continues to be submitted to Hammersmith CID.
https://t.me/s/robinmg

abraham onana
abraham onana
4 years ago

Keep on Rockin in The Free World….

Simon Platt
Simon Platt
4 years ago

Rogan should sue… oh, what would be the point?

George L
George L
4 years ago

Oh the irony..

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MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago

Wrinkly old twot.
I’m glad spotify told him to feck off without so much as a blink of an eye.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Sforzesca
Sforzesca
4 years ago

I never realised Neil Young was an expert immunologist/virologist/ vaccinologist/epidemiologist.
I thought he was just a has been pop star.

paul smith
paul smith
4 years ago

Old hippies never die.
…they just sell out (to ‘The Man’, of course, and usually for considerable pecuniary reward) and embarrass themselves.

RW
RW
4 years ago

If Young wants to challenge anything Rogan Josh publishes, he should do so, either on the show itself or in some other suitable format. That would be the honourable and honest thing to do. Trying to exert backroom pressure in order to get him forcibly silenced is sneaky and dishonourable. The extremely patronizing attitude towards young people speaking their minds who are getting so much resistance from behind is also extremely disgusting, considering Young’s personal history.

But I guess, this all looks very much different once you’re the person on the other side of the fence who thinks their rightfully earned, quiet lives are being endangered, doesn’t it?

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

Should have been Joe Rogan obviously. The pickup artist (IIRC) crept in there by accident. 🙂

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

In comparison to the mainstream population, Neil Young is a nut. All the best artists, whether they are actors or musicians, are on the nutty side.
 
Among the artist demographic you’ll find a much greater percentage of paedophiles and drug users than among a mainstream demographic. Likewise with personality disorders along the narcissistic line.
 
There’s an actual phenomenon where democratic leaders that remain in power for more than ten years develop a belief that they are actually special. They actually come to believe that they have been singled out and appointed to their leadership position by some supernatural deity.
 
This gets dangerous because this leader can then pursue insane and damaging policies and not see the wrong in what he or she is doing. Because their deranged belief that they are in the service of some god or other means that this god is running the show, and therefore any notion the leader gets in their head simply can’t be wrong.
 
Mediaeval monarchs in the UK even had underlings on hand to wipe their derrieres after they used the toilet. And it was a much sought-after job, because the wiper had the king’s or queen’s ear,… Read more »

SteveHoffmanUK
SteveHoffmanUK
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Fireweasel – small point, but it wasn’t America’s Founding Fathers who limited the presidential term to two x four years. The 22nd Amendment did that in 1951. Until Franklin Roosevelt, two terms was only a custom, which FDR broke by running for a third term in 1940.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  SteveHoffmanUK

Thanks for that info.
 
I’ve listened to it being discussed in documentaries and such like a few times. And these claimed it went right back to the Founding Fathers. MSM documentaries, which I used to partake in before I realised they were full-on Marxists. Anyway, now I know their bad research and fake news extends even to documentaries and goes way back before the plandemic.
 
Talking about not doing research. Liz Truss had a go at the Russians the other day by whining about how the Ukrainians suffered lots of invasions. In one period, she pointed out, they were invaded twice, once by the Mongols and then the Tatars.
 
A Russian politician ridiculed her for this. It turned out that the Mongol invasion and the Tatar invasion were one and the same. In Russia these invaders were known as Tatars, and in other parts of Europe they were known as Mongols.
 
Elizabeth Truss is positioning herself to be the next Prime Minister. You think things are bad, and then it all gets much worse.

psychedelia smith
psychedelia smith
4 years ago

“young Spotify users were “impressionable and easy to swing to the wrong side of the truth.”

Young Spotify users will end up with life long heart defects if they listen to multi-millionaire imbeciles like Neil Young. Mind you who listens to Neil Young..?

BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

Meanwhile real men in Canada are having a bit of a drive to Ottawa…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hjRuCTXIB0

A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago

hahahahahahahahahahhahaha

LordFauntelroy
LordFauntelroy
4 years ago

Well done Spotify.
I love Neil Young’s music but the man is an autistic arsehole.
And I thought he sold all the right to his music?

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago
Reply to  LordFauntelroy

Erm, if in your opinion he is a arsehole, that’s one thing. But I don’t get the ‘autistic arsehole’ thing.

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago

Erm, if in your opinion he is a arsehole, that’s one thing. But I don’t get the ‘autistic arsehole’ thing.

Typo … an arsehole, obviously.

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