There’s little doubt that Omicron is causing milder disease in the U.K., as well as in South Africa, Denmark, and many other places.
However, what’s going on in Australia? ICU admissions have shot up as Omicron has taken hold (see above), as have deaths (see below). Bear in mind 77% of the population are double-vaccinated and it’s the middle of summer there.
Now, it could be just that there are so many more Omicron infections in the formerly ‘Zero Covid’ country than there were of previous variants, and that despite being milder sheer numbers are causing the spike. Indeed, Delta positivity peaked at 1.3% whereas Omicron positivity is at 22.5% and still rising (see below). With an infection rate up to 20 times higher, the fact that ICU patients are still below the Delta peak (for now) suggests it is milder and there’s just a lot of it.
However, it’s one to watch to see what happens next, as Australia lacks the natural immunity from widespread previous infection that other countries benefit from. If Omicron does turn out to be more virulent there, it may tell us something about the role natural immunity is playing in reducing the severity of the virus.
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Who cares about ICU admissions..most are stratified by age and metabolic health in Australia.Deaths are 70 times less than the UK (which has approx 3 times the population)…transmittable viral and bacterial infections are killing 4 times covid is..should we panic about that as well here?
Couldn’t be anything to do with jabs, could it? We’re told that in the UK there are a lot more young people in hospital with ‘It’ who are so-called ‘unvaccinated’. But we know that UnVax means within two weeks of getting jabbed. It all fits, doesn’t it?
Have we not seen that the antipodean authorities are capable of fabricating this kind of data? They’ve done a great deal of other dodgy shit… That was my initial thought. Isolation has caused this? Comparisons with native Amercans? Come off it – nobody’s isolated in the modern world. This isn’t 17th-century America! If it’s not plain old disinformation, I’m a koala bear!
jab shedding and lowered immunity due to jabs – Australians had (past tense) great t cell immunity due to high level of corona viruses – why their virus infection was so low – they should have left it alone but mass multiple jabbing = low immunity and high viral loads = many more infections… also try and get this – the virus is not one thing but a mongrel of bacterial pneumonia, some virus etc. All treatable.
Ps when people talk about isolation etc. Also get that the very high Chinese population travel a lot between there and China and would have guaranteed the ‘virus’ was present from day 1 – forget that bullshit – this virus was there but people had natural immunity.
Finland has many similarities with SA.Very low transmission earlier now enormous Omikron outbreak.Spared the original Wuhan transmission. Many NPI implemented. Covidpass. High vaccination coverage. But not overwhelmed ICU. Posting a thing from yesterday BTL which highlights this.
“Finland.The total madness.Today they have today 23000 “cases”. see the graph below which just shows up till yesterday. According to World Data they had earlier 46000 cases discharged and 1656 deaths.At the moment they have 281000 “active cases” that is 6 times more cases presently than ever in the pandemic. Of these cases 100% is mild as the 60 cases in ICU is almost nothing and even that figure could include incidental or false pos etc and could be even lower. It doesn’t seem that masks, test and trace, isolation, covid pass, all been in place for a long time has been a success as all these “cases” in the last few weeks still got infected. One country must start saying.Enough.Stop the madness. Stop spending billions in stopping a common cold.”
So they have obsessive testing too, do they?
The behavioural psychopaths must be rubbing their hands in glee at the success of all this manipulation.
With these graphs, like many many others, you have to read the vertical axis. Twelve people per million in ICU is only about 270 in the whole country, up from about 160. Normal death rate is 120 per million per week, so a rise of 2 is hardly significant. Really in the noise I suspect, or below statistical significance. Twice danm-all is still damn-all. Together with the fact that they may be counting death with Covid rather than from, and normalised for age and vaccine status and co-morbidity, and I think you have a non-story. G’day..
If science can’t be questioned it’s not science anymore. It’s propaganda. They want to rip on people for taking Ivermectin. I researched and saw the evidence on the internet. Research papers are on the internet for those who wants to see. Top respected world doctors are being under defamation by MSM and vaccine manufacturers. I won’t back down recommeding IVM. You can get yours by visiting https://ivmpharmacy.com
Perhaps the pharmaceutical version of “Swiss Cheese” would be appropriate?
3 vaccine doses, vitamin D, weight loss (if appropriate) and ivermectin in case those aren’t enough.
‘skyrocketed’ from two to four per million? It’s just noise. And since we are still dealing with health authorities that are very cagey about the terms ‘from’ and ‘with’, it’s meaningless noise.
the numbers are so small that it is just noise. There would be more people admitted to hospital for tripping over.
This may have been noted already but my take on this is that Omicron isn’t “mild” at all. There is no such thing as a “mild” virus, only people who are well or seriously unwell, young or very old, sick or healthy.
The no-worse-than-Omicron Delta and other variants have already carried off the weakest and sickest. The remaining population, relatively strong and healthy, bats off the latest variant like water off the proverbial duck’s back.
Australians will now have to face their own age and ill-health: the vax won’t do it for them, as won’t isolation and keeping tennis stars out of their country.
What might do it for them on the other hand, is following said tennis star’s diet and exercise regime and they too could be globe trotting and leading happy lives.
Mind you, Jesus was crucified so just because you are right doesn’t mean people want to hear what you have to say.
A very important point. In the 1980s, people with AIDS used to die of pneumonias they got from the common cold and all kinds of other everyday diseases. Virus don’t stop replicating on their own for as long as there are still cells left they can infect. Either the immune system stops them or the host body is going to die.
Because the population does not have any sort of immunity. We managed to build a modicum of immunity in between lockdowns. They have had no such opportunity. What we’re seeing is a typical Californian forest fire: They prevent fires for years and years, the dead wood piles up, and when they fail to prevent one fire, it destroys everything.
“Fake testing-” next question!
OH NO! It’s the Aztecs, the Conquistadors and smallpox reanimated…
But seriously folk’s, zero to very little natural immunity, leaky “vaccines” that have negative efficacy and ADE, it’s a pandemic of the vaxxed!
You can stick that in ya didgerridoo and smoke it!
Oh ffs!!!!!
Sense of proportion! A dozen people per million in ICU.
This number-blindness disguised by graphs is at the root of our problems,.
Vax injuries and comorbidities suppressed by 2 years of neglect.
Ask me another …
Yawn, if everyone has it, so do people in the ICU and have died, it doesn’t mean that’s what killed them. I thought we put this one to bed.
For years they tried to isolate coronavirus’ and eventually gave up, is this all a mass funding exercise for pharma groups?
From 6 days ago in the Heil:
“Majority of Aussies in ICU with Covid have Delta – NOT Omicron”
An interesting question is how many people in all countries have omicron and NOT delta. Because whatever symptoms they may have, THEY are the group you need to know about to BEGIN to have some information about what symptoms omicron MAY cause.
How many ICU beds does Convict Island have per capita compared to the UK? Because my understanding is that ICUs tend towards being full all the time – hospitals offer the best care that they can.
Are coofs patients just displacing other patients?
“hospitals offer the best care that they can“
LOL.
Maybe that’s true about King Edward VII’s private hospital in the Harley Street district, where the queen and the royal family go.
You write as if medics don’t
If they do keep ICUs at near capacity, it will be so that state figures can justify the budget (and continue to get bribes) for spending money on equipment. That’s how the NHS works. It’s AS CORRUPT AS F*CK, just like the rest of the state.
I do know that one factor that explains why NZ went for Zero Covid back in March 2020 was the fact that they have the second-worst per-capita level of ICU provision in the OECD.
What happens next?🤔 Probably even more draconian measures…because if you keep doing the same thing over and over, you must surely get a different result at some point!
Mind worth considering that the Oz level of ICU admissions is only reflecting transmission in the community (back to olde with and for etc.) and no more relevant than that. So to reverse Will’s comment on the virulence of Omicron – Omicron could be reflecting that the original virus was not particularly virulent in the first place. Head scratchers unite.
There is a need to check that a comparison is being made of like for like.
Maybe the Australian and NZ practice of classifying patients as ICU patients or putting them in wards classified as IC wards is currently less strict than in other countries for propaganda reasons, which is to say, for financial reasons?
As for Novak Djokovic, I suspect that whoever advertises muck at tennis matches had a quiet word with a senior civil servant, the judge, or even a government minister johnny. But it will be great if Djokovic makes THIS gesture at a press conference, the international anti-spiking gesture known as the “Barricade”:
“If that ruling [clearing Djokovich to play] is overturned, what is the difference between Australia and a banana republic”? (Nigel Farage on GB News just now).
The only court now for Djokovich should be the tennis court. If the Australian government overturn this now, frankly Australia should not have such tournaments until they rejoin the civilised world.
It would be like a prorogation, which Nigel Farage also opposed.
The correct term, though, is banana monarchy.
England should never have gone on the Ashes tour.
It’s a pity that countries aren’t fully boycotting the Winter Olympics.
plus dry tinder built up
Original Antigenic Sin in action.
It seems to prove that herd immunity is not such a bad thing after all. And also that people are best off if governments just fuck off and leave them alone.
Amen.
I wrote to my ‘esteemed’ MP back in July 2020 that the ‘Government’ ignored natural acquired immunity at its peril? This plebeian could not possibly be right surely? The definition of pleb comes from the Roman for free Roman citizens who were not patricians as determined by census. So commoners in effect, ergo common sense. Says it all really.
Easy. Immunity comes from prior exposure/infection, not from artificially produced jabs.
Although, skyrocketing? Really? 12 per million is skyrocketing?
I thought this is the sort of alarmist, headline grabbing phrases that got us into this mess back in March 2020.
How about ADE?
How about the clot shots with no underlying natural immunity to protect you?
I suspect it’s because in the UK (and other western nations) there is a large proportion with natural immunity, which Australia doesn’t have due to its Government’s policy of making it the largest prison in the world.
And the jabs, which were designed for the original infection, aren’t very effective against Omicron.
There is evidence from a number of separate studies that the vaccination increases infection rates from Omicron, so the Aussies have inadvertantly primed their populaton to be receptive to it.
One can only hope. Mankind’s stupidity needs to have consequences.
Indeed – I’m rather hoping the consequences are terrible. Just as Dresden wasn’t necessary militarily but was completely necessary as warning to a population to never again embrace tyranny, a massive wave of ADE deaths in Oz would be everything they deserve and a notice as to what happens when dogma replaces reason.
Well, looks like it took the Germans a mere 75 years to forget the lesson.
That’s a bit hard on the brave Aussies who have been turning out for protests in the face of appalling thuggery by their police force.