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And Finally…

by Toby Young
30 November 2021 11:31 PM

In this week’s episode of London Calling, James Delingpole and I discuss shooting, hunting – but not fishing; the latest raft of Covid restrictions; whether David Icke is a “visionary genius” (™James Delingpole); the new Beatles movie, and Belfast, Kenneth Branagh’s autobiographical film about being brought up in Northern Ireland which is howlingly bad!

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Mark
3 years ago

Must admit that New Zealand story was a bit of a shocker. If you want to have the cultural downfall of the west confirmed beyond question, listen to Young’s description of events in New Zealand from 33m20s, with the NZ Royal Society, of all things, backing a woke mobbing of its own members who objected (entirely reasonably) to the idea that Maori traditional knowledge should be treated as science. As they pointed out, it falls far short of what should properly be considered science (“in the discovery of empirical, universal truths, it falls far short of what we can define as science itself“).

This seems to be yet another triumph of touchy-feely, right on hippy-ness over reality, in formerly western culture and society.

As a bit of background, when Europeans contacted the Maoris in NZ in the 18th century, they were technologically primitive compared to the Europeans in part precisely because they had not devised the scientific method that had led to such dramatic advances in Europe. The Maori had no advanced technology and were notable mainly for their expertise at violence, which they promptly displayed after the arrival of European technology by initiating the “Musket Wars”.

Famously, a Maori offshoot group isolated on the Chatham Islands had, in the safety of their remote location, become pacifists. Unfortunately for them, when the mainland Maoris found out about them they acted appropriately, by their own cultural lights, and used European sailing and weapons technology to sail to the Chatham Islands and kill or enslave all of the pacifists. Thus providing a lesson many modern westerners would do well to heed.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago

What an Utter load of bollocks you two are waffling about blood “sports”.

  1. Delingblob claiming he’s the underdog in a class war, OH FFS, fuck RIGHT off.
  2. Toby Young’s Total nonsense about declawing cats & animal cruelty really lowered my estimation of his intellect.
  3. The issue for most people regarding bloodsports is the needless cruelty! Most of these jollies are not done out of necessity but for pleasure.
  4. Causing pain, stress & fear for no apparent reason other than your pleasure is psychopathic (fox hunting especially) can’t you terrorize the countryside on horse back without killing something?.
  5. That brings me too, horses, As a true libertarian I disagree with keeping anything in slavery, so it can carry you around for fun, you evolved legs for a reason. Eat your horse.
  6. The main concern with shooting game birds is the harm to biodiversity by land management practices for said interests.

I’ve no issue with hunting for food & necessity, in many respects it’s preferable to modern agriculture, though not available for most. Killing for fun is psychopathic! There are sound scientific explanations for cats playing with prey, its function is survival. Personally, I’m all for the abolition of civilisation, but you can’t have it both ways, so be careful what you wish for.

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Mark
3 years ago
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“As a true libertarian I disagree with keeping anything in slavery,”

It’s a good job humans historically didn’t share the confusion of human with animal, that is at the root of this profound error. The use of animals as chattels was key to the development of any human society above the tribal.

In my experience (granted getting pretty ancient now, but quite extensive) of libertarian and in particular ancap thinking, they would have been almost universally appalled at this confusion, which strikes at the very heart of the rationality of libertarianism.

It’s fine to have a concern for animals and their welfare, but to confuse them with entities to which rights apply is unsustainable and ultimately destroys the very concept of rights. You’re (most people are, anyway) going to eat them, for goodness sake! Rating slavery as worse than murder is rather bizarre.

“Causing pain, stress & fear for no apparent reason other than your pleasure is psychopathic (fox hunting especially) can’t you terrorize the countryside on horse back without killing something?.”

Hunting is usually justified either by eating the results, or pest control.

Your criticism here would be appropriately directed at badger baiting or dog-fighting, but not at hunting.

[For the avoidance of doubt, I didn’t down-vote your comment.]

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
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Development?

You’re talking shite again, so I didn’t read past that drivel.

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Mark
3 years ago
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Your prerogative, obviously. My (unsolicited and doubtless unwanted) advice is that you need to give some very careful thought to your conception of rights, what it is based in and precisely how it applies. If you do not do this, your position will likely fall apart under pressure.

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Alkanet
Alkanet
3 years ago

Topics of no interest to DS readers who are interested in truth and freedom vis-a-vis covid. Yes I know DS is obliged to cover other topics, yada yada yada, but please get a grip.

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Crlmc
Crlmc
3 years ago

It is not about health it’s about the impostion of a global tyranny on the back of a manufactured medical emergency .. it’s about global Chinafication

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLTuS6tke4344WQD-vbvUTg

Please share far and wide this video needs to go viral

NO to digital medical passes .. Do NOT Consent .. Do NOT comply

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