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How Far Should We Take Civil Disobedience to the Public Health Police State?

by Toby Young
2 June 2021 7:16 PM

We’re publishing another original essay today by Donald S. Siegel and Robert M. Sauer, two professors of social science, about what ordinary people can do to push back against what they call “the public health police state”. They believe a good role model is Artur Pawlowsky, the Polish-Canadian minister who saw off the police when they tried to shut down his Calgary church on Good Friday. Here is an extract:

Unfortunately, resistance to the Branch Covidians has been too passive. We are reminded of the famous scene from the Godfather, involving Johnny Fontane and Don Vito Corleone. Johnny Fontane was the godson of Don Vito Corleone and a famous singer.

In the scene, the whimpering Fontane is complaining to the Godfather about the studio head who will not give him a movie part that is ideally suited to him and will launch his film career. He whines to Don Corleone, stating: “Oh, Godfather, I don’t know what to do.” The exasperated Godfather takes him by the neck and screams the following: “You can act like a man!”

An example of such a real man is Artur Pawlowski, a Polish-Canadian minister based in Calgary, who has bravely defied the Government’s COVID-19 public health orders. In Calgary, as in other parts of Canada, the severity of coronavirus restrictions is matched only by the paucity of the virus. Artur became a YouTube sensation when he openly defied the police and the public health inspector when they interrupted his religious service on Good Friday, referring to them as “Nazis” and “Gestapo” and belligerently demanded that they leave the church. He was ultimately arrested by the authorities.

In our view, Pastor Pawlowski is the modern-day equivalent of Cardinal József Mindszenty, leader of the Catholic Church in Hungary, who came to represent uncompromising opposition to fascism and communism in Hungary. After WWII, Cardinal Mindszenty was jailed and tortured by the Communists and given a life sentence in a 1949 show trial that was widely condemned in the West. Midszenty was ultimately freed and remains a potent symbol of opposition to Communism and a great example of resistance to the totalitarian repression of religious freedom. We need more religious leaders like Pawlowski and Midszenty to stand up to the public health police state. We also deeply admire the courage of the ultra-orthodox Jewish leadership in the U.S. and Israel for their enlightened opposition and vigorous civil disobedience.

Worth reading in full.

Tags: Civil DisobedienceResistanceThe Godfather

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago

How do I read it in full?

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Quernus
Quernus
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

https://dailysceptic.org/exit-voice-and-loyalty-the-godfather-and-dr-faucis-book-tour/

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago
Reply to  Quernus

Thank you

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  Quernus

Think it’s been canceled.

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jsampson45
jsampson45
3 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Available at 12.09 am, 3/6/2021. Has it come back?

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  jsampson45

not yet – 12.44

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I am Spartacas
I am Spartacas
3 years ago

Reninded me of this …

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

Excellent. Where can I get those stickers?

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Matty P
Matty P
3 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

That looks like one of the White Rose group’s stickers. You can find them on Telegram.

https://t.me/jointhewhiterose

Last edited 3 years ago by Matty P
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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  Matty P

Thank you

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago

The Churches in this country have become, much like Doctors / the NHS, and teachers lamentable parodies of the institutions they represent.

Bozo and Nut Nut were allowed a Catholic wedding in a Catholic church. She’s a scamp with at best a racy past and he’s a twice married, dirty dicked, philandering slut.

My wife and I were refused even a church blessing twenty years ago despite being from generations of catholics, Catholic school educated and church goers. Our sin? My wife to be had divorced her serially philandering tosser of a husband.

The Catholic Church has all but killed itself in this country with their Bozo love-in.

Bozo is a satanic genocidalist and the antithesis of true Catholicism…oh hang on – correction “marriage made in heaven” (pun intended) given the current Pope’s support for the NWO and Great Reset.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I’m not a god botherer in any sense at all.

But I feel for those who have invested in religion and are betrayed by their hierarchy in a totally egregious way.

As a neutral observer, I wondered idly why Welby was appointed A. of C. He seemed to have nothing to recommend him at all. You could respect Rowan Williams’s integrity and intellect, despite profound disagreements.

Having caught some of Welby’s recent pronouncements, I realise why. Given that the role is essentially one for the establishment, they really have their man in charge now.

Another stitch-up.

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

“He seemed to have nothing to recommend him at all.” There’s your answer, which you arrived at without me. 🤗

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Betrayed by their hierarchy?! Surely there has only ever been one man at the top, since the beginning of time, the big cheese, top dog.

I believe that the Pope claims to have the direct ear of God and is basically his representative on earth?

So if you actually believe that God is in charge of all this then there’s really only one “person” to blame isn’t there? A benevolent being would not allow so much innocent human suffering.

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lorrinet
lorrinet
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

It’s likely that he’s a Common Purpose graduate, as many in the Church are. I see little sign that he’s a man of God, anyway

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

God bless you, Huxleypiggles!

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Thank you Susan.

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago

Freedoms are not given they have to be taken, so what ever is required. A Ceausecu moment is required, with a similar outcome.

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QuickDrawMcGraw
QuickDrawMcGraw
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

I fully agree!

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JYC
JYC
3 years ago

I was on a work Skype call last week listening to some of the senior folk in the company talking about getting people back into the office. They were very pleased with all that had been done to get everything ready – one way system clearly marked, hand sanitiser available everywhere and a booking system for desks so that we have the right number of people in at one time. It’s all so reassuring. And you think to yourself – is no-one able to step back and see how utterly ridiculous is the way of life we are now prepared to accept and expect everyone else to do likewise?
And as well as all the restrictions on normal humanity, we have experimental vaccines being forced on us.
How on earth have we come to this? How is it that people I previously thought to be sane, rational men and women have accepted all of this without any questioning?
I think we need to set up a new, separate country somewhere in the world where we can live as normal human beings and let the rest continue with the madness they seem so comfortable with.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  JYC

I have said it before and I will say it again: this has not just happened in the last 15 months. We have spent 30+ years accepting a steady erosion of freedom – all supposedly to keep us safe. Just take a look at cops strutting around with assault rifles and baseball caps instead of truncheons (always hidden) and custodian helmets for a stark symbol of what has happened to us. Then consider the deluge of new laws and manipulations (sorry “nudges”) and the splendid initiatives like Community Speed Watch designed to cause conflict and division.

I could go on, and on…

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Corky Ringspot
Corky Ringspot
3 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

On the whole I agree with you – but Speed Watch? Part of a programme of deliberate social division? Come off it. We’ve had the Speed Watch people for years in my village and surrounding villages, and they succeed (at least while they’re there) in slowing down the traffic – and I have to say, without causing any local infighting! There’s something slightly sad about them – but agents of social unrest? Can’t see it.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  Corky Ringspot

The point is that they are dobbing in their neighbours. It stinks. It has set the precedent for doing the same thing in the pandemic. We have enough cops and enough cameras as it is without the cops recruiting useful idiots to do their jobs for them.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago

There was a time when religious leaders would protect their flocks and stand up for what they knew to be right even if it upset the powers that be. The most famous modern example is Martin Luther King: he paid with his life but inspired people to stand up for themselves.

If priests and ministers won’t stand up to to be counted, who will?

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
3 years ago

I find it interesting that standing up to the police state and committing acts of civil disobedience is equated with manliness. More and more now it is the women I see out and about who are better at doing this? Perhaps our bravery comes from the sex bias that we are less likely to be physically attacked for this? I do seem to see unmasked men in the media painted as thugs who just wanted to start a fight, and women as crazy and unhinged who must’ve temporarily taken leave of their senses and forgotten they’re supposed to constantly care for everyone else over themselves.

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iane
iane
3 years ago
Reply to  SweetBabyCheeses

Well, many men have now been to a significant extent feminised by the wokerati, so there is a vacuum to be filled by masculinised women.

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
3 years ago

I notice there were some Nuns supporting the massive rally in London on the 29th of May. When you see this it makes you think, and that it really is time to stand up to this globalist tyranny, plain and simple.

The Judaeo-Christian West is under attack, spiritually, psychologically and physically. Resistance is not futile and it is now necessary, literally for our children’s sake.

Last edited 3 years ago by BJs Brain is Missing
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Stephanos
Stephanos
3 years ago

Some months ago on here, I proposed the following:
On June 27 the first Sunday after June 21 ALL Christians must attend their local church and do the following:

  1. NOT wear a mask
  2. NOT use the hand-sanitiser
  3. NOT engage in ‘Social Distancing’
  4. DO sing out loud
  5. DO hug, kiss, shake hands, or whatever you NORMALLY do during the ‘peace’.

This attracted a lot of favourable comment; one lady wrote to me privately and said she would be trying to implement this in churches in her area. I felt at the time (I didn’t believe Johnson’s ‘promise’ by the way, and still don’t) that this was a non-violent, but obvious form of civil disobedience and IF it were done on a mass scale, even the MSM could not ignore it.

I proposed this to my Greek and Latin church groups, but the response I received would be charitably described as ‘cool’. In other words, they were NOT prepared to engage in this. Note, incidentally, that these are people studying the scriptures in the original language; they are not dim.

I heard recently that Welby (for whom I have nothing but contempt) regretted closing the churches and he said that he regretted it LAST MAY. Did he say anything then? No, not the merest squeak.

Two or three months ago a group of two clergymen called the ‘Irreverends’ composed an open letter to Johnson opposing the deeply divisive and evil so-called ‘Vaccine Passports’. They invited ‘church leaders’ to come forward and sign it. Quite a few clergymen and women did so; 1260 was the last count I saw. There were however, NO diocesan Bishops; I found two Rt. Revs (I searched the signatories in various ways) but I do not think they were Diocesan Bishops. Where were Welby and Cottrell? Not there. There were a lot of signatories at what I might call the lower levels of leadership; one signed herself ‘House Group Leader’, another was a ‘Youth Group Worker’, another was a ‘Trustee’. As I pointed out at the time, it is idle for the Bishops to pretend that they did not know about this letter; their Dioceses are packed with people whose job it is to review the news, so they have no excuse.

Rev David Ackerman wrote an open letter to Welby demanding his resignation. This was published in the blog called ‘Conservative Woman’ – the letter is here: https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/resign-archbishop-welby-you-should-be-ashamed/

It is customary to divide a polity into four estates: Government, Church, the People and the Press. In Britain today three of these (Government, Church and the Press) are deeply corrupt and desperately need reform.
Some people I know are of the view that the Church of England is irredeemable; I have resisted that view but I am coming, reluctantly, to the conclusion that it is correct. It is worthwhile to remember that there are 7,000 who have not bent the knee to Baal. Recently, following the wonderful march on 29th May in London, I voiced this view to the members of my groups. I received one reply which simply reiterated Government propaganda and accused me of ‘sounding off’. My first reaction was to leave the CofE there and then, but I was not sure that was a right response; I am not sure it was a wrong response, either.

Many people I know have prayed for God to raise up a prophet to speak to this generation. I do not think HE will; this is a generation that will hear but not understand, who will see but not perceive.

There will be a reckoning, and the longer that this nonsense persists, the more savage and brutal that reckoning will be.

There will be an end to all of this, but I do not think I will see it in my lifetime.

If you have managed this to the end, thank you.

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Mike Durrans
Mike Durrans
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

I fail to see how a figment of your imagination can do any of the things you expect- there is no god man, try a bit of intelligence as you are being lied to!

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

An excellent piece of writing.

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Stephanos
Stephanos
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Thank you huxleypiggles and thanks to the others for their warm remarks. Much appreciated.

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Mike Yeadon
Mike Yeadon
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

I was not brought up in any faith, though I spent much time with quiet Christians & quiet Jews during my late teens. I secretly admired their certainty.
I have recently been giving as many interviews interviews to people with large audiences. These have mostly been in the US. The striking thing is the receptiveness of those of strong Christian faith. I asked why & the straight answer is that many see our current situation as Revelations. Having thought a little, who am I to disagree?

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Epi
Epi
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

Well said God Bless. Take no notice of M Durans below we all have our beliefs, it’s what life’s all about.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago

Brits were the people who had and have it easiest to demonstrate their opposition.
The media is more objective/less socialist than elsewhere and critical information is widely available, masks could have been ditched by everyone and dissenters aren’t diffamated blanketly as Nazis as in Germany.

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jsampson45
jsampson45
3 years ago

The article suggests “reining in qualified immunity” but does not explain how to do it.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
3 years ago

Minecraft the lot of them

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Ken Garoo
Ken Garoo
3 years ago

We don’t need symbols against communism. We need symbols against the fascist (fusion of corporations and government) war mongering state. Ah but we have those – Assange, Snowden, Manning.

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