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(@splattt)
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"Looking after the immune system" is just a nonsense statement.

If you're not vitamin or mineral deficient (and most people are not) the immune system has taken care of itself.  You can't boost it.

What you CAN do is improve physical/metabolic fitness which is the UKs main problem - everyone is overweight and inactive.

 

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Posted by: @splattt

"Looking after the immune system" is just a nonsense statement.

 

One way to look after your imunune system is to take the vaccine.

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(@splattt)
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@ewloe 

Or just catch covid.  Which long term is (i) going to happen anyway and (ii) will give you more robust and longer lasting protection.

 

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@splattt 

2 questions..

Is a vaccinated person who catches covid worse off than an unvaccinated person?

Does this vaccinated person acquire additional immunity through infection?

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@ewloe 

Or just catch covid.  Which long term is (i) going to happen anyway and (ii) will give you more robust and longer lasting protection.

 

If you are unvaccinated and catch covid, try not to get very ill or worse.

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@thinksaboutit 

Who are you addressing that to? Most people at risk of the outcomes you describe have been jabbed. Many, and increasing by the day, three times. 
 
Everyone else knows by now there is a very very slender risk of developing serious symptoms from SarsCov2 which then leads to Covid-19 let alond death. The.chances decrease massively in younger groups. 
 
The older (triple jabbed) will still die because: (a) they are old and (b) it'll be the winter death season shortly.
 
Intersting to see how the govt labels those deaths. Presumably, they'll want to label them covid deaths using the loosesr definition they can get away with, in order to prolong the "pandemic" and "emergency" control measures.
 
But by doing so they will be undermining the effectiveness of the jabs.
 
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If I was going to build a case for high vaccination rates just now I might look at US state-level data. States with high vaccination rates seem to be having a milder experience of delta both in terms of positive tests and deaths-with-COVID. Likewise the low-vax countries in Eastern Europe seem to be having a bad time just now relative to the rest of Europe. Which is not to say that a vax campaign focussed on risk groups, or heaven forbid, some early treatment, would not have been equally effective. Asia and sub-Saharan Africa might have been better off without vaccines.

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@partytime You have to be very careful of the US state *rates* though.

Articles showing this but basically they dont really have any idea of the actual populations in those areas and people move.

Florida for example had a lot of out of state people hiding during winter who got vax'd - result is FL figures artificially high, their home state figures artificially low.

Add that to population estimates are miles off - some areas of Miami Dade are at 120% of population vaccinated in some age groups too.

Same issue in the UK using ONS and Nmims figures.

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Posted by: @splattt

@partytime You have to be very careful of the US state *rates* though.

Articles showing this but basically they dont really have any idea of the actual populations in those areas and people move.

Florida for example had a lot of out of state people hiding during winter who got vax'd - result is FL figures artificially high, their home state figures artificially low.

Add that to population estimates are miles off - some areas of Miami Dade are at 120% of population vaccinated in some age groups too.

Same issue in the UK using ONS and Nmims figures.

So do you agree or disagree that higher levels of vaccination is beneficial to a community?

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