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Obese People Who Lost Bodyweight Got Less Severe Covid

by Noah Carl
2 February 2022 3:00 PM

Aside from older age and male gender, obesity is one of the most important risk factors for severe Covid. Compared to those with a healthy BMI, the obese (those with a BMI greater than 30) are about twice as likely to end up in the ICU, and are about 20% more likely to die.

Which raises the question: is obesity a modifiable risk factor? Can obese people reduce their risk of severe Covid by losing a large amount of bodyweight? While the answer might seem obvious, it isn’t necessarily ‘yes’.

Rather than obesity per se, it might be some factor strongly correlated with obesity that predisposes you to severe Covid. Or perhaps obesity leads to permanent changes in the body, so that even once you lose the extra bodyweight, you’re still at higher risk than someone who was never obese to begin with.

It’s certainly possible. Yet a new study suggests that obesity is a modifiable risk factor. Ali Aminian and colleagues examined a cohort of obese people who’d had gastric bypass surgery at particular hospital in Cleveland between 2004 and 2017.

Members of this cohort were matched to similar individuals who’d never had gastric bypass surgery. Matching was based on age, sex, race, BMI at the time of surgery and an index of comorbidities.

The researchers therefore compared two groups: obese people who’d lost weight thanks to gastric bypass surgery; and obese people who’d never had gastric bypass surgery. Note: most members of the surgery group were still obese by the time of the pandemic. Their average BMI was 38, compared to 46 in the control group.

The groups were compared with respect to their Covid outcomes during the first year of the pandemic. What did the researchers find? Their main results are shown in the figure below.

The two groups had almost identical infection rates, as shown in the top-left chart. However, the incidence of severe Covid was much higher in the control group, as shown in the other three charts. This provides relatively strong evidence that losing weight does reduce the risk of severe Covid. 

So far, governments have made very little effort to encourage weight loss during the pandemic. (One exception is a recent campaign by the tech-savvy government of El Salvador.) In fact, the net effect of Britain’s lockdowns has been to increase the rate of obesity.

But if Aminian and colleagues’ findings hold up, more emphasis on weight loss is clearly warranted – especially since obesity is risk factor for various medical conditions, not just Covid.

Of course, the main obstacle to promoting weight loss in the current year is not lack of evidence, but concerns around ‘fat-shaming’. To reduce stigma around obesity, you’re supposed to affirm that people can be ‘healthy at any size’. Unfortunately for the activists, this simply isn’t true.

Reducing obesity isn’t a silver bullet in the fight against Covid. But it would certainly help.

Tags: Fat ShamingHospitalisationsObesity

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Mogwai
Mogwai
2 years ago

The problem with Fauci is that the little weasel doesn’t think or plan long-term. These statements have not aged well on him and reveal what a lying, psychopathic toad he is;

https://odysee.com/@RestoreOurRepublic:c/flashback-to-fauci—the-best-vaccination-is-to-get-infected-yourself–:0

https://odysee.com/@DidYaKnow:0/Fauci-Highly-Effective:0

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TheBasicMind
TheBasicMind
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I agree and disagree. Unfortunately Fauci is a very clever man and does think long term. Indeed that is his strength. It’s just that his intelligence has been dedicated to achieving success in a political arena and personal aggrandisement and has not been dedicated to science as he pretends.

On the political stage he runs rings round his opponents and utilises his science domain knowledge to crush any politician who isn’t as imbued in the details of scientific research as he is, and uses his political deftness to crush any scientists who naively think they can take him on with scientific facts. There are plenty of instances of politicians raising the kind of data we know well on this website, that he has totally embarrassed by asking them just one or two deft science questions that make them look like complete ignorant idiots. He has done it for years and has in the process become one of the most powerful and malign political forces imaginable – on the scale of Machiavelli. The only politician who has got close to touching him has been Rand Paul, who is also a scientist by training but even Rand Paul with facts and right on his side has been frustratingly unable to pin him down. It has been like watching a wrestling match where Rand Paul is on top and doing all the moves, but can never hold Fauci’s shoulders to the mat for the required three seconds.

What many don’t quite get is just how hyper aware Fauci is of the game he is playing. So we might think as the truth outs, we will be able to pin him down, but actually he always encouraged others to say the propagandist untruths and rarely if ever says them himself. There will be statements he has made that he has subsequently contradicted, but they are (as far as I am aware) all in the domain of the legally inconsequential. He will be aware of that. So his inconsistencies on masks and messaging on natural immunity come into that category. He knows he can weather those hits with no real problem and IMO will see those inconsistencies as being part of the cost of playing the game he plays.

But he allowed the “impression” the vaccines stopped transmission to result in wholly untruthful and inaccurate statements to be made by politicians and news anchors, never once correcting the misstatements. You won’t find him saying that. Similarly all the guff about lipid nano particles and mRNA and spike proteins staying at the injection site. He will never have said that they do, because he is actually very clever and knew the truth. But he will have (IMO) encouraged such statements. Similarly with the emails relating to the lab leak. He was always careful not to say the Lab leak theory was without merit. He just downplayed it and again encouraged his underlings to go out and spread the message, write papers discrediting the truth etc.

This recent publication is pure Fauci. Having been very careful in what he said, now he knows very bad things are happening, he is shifting the frame, leaving the politicians high and dry and is already playing the “I never said that and if that’s how they interpreted things, that’s their problem” card, when in reality he was always the puppet master.

he will be far harder to bring down than most people realise.

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True Spirit of America Party
True Spirit of America Party
2 years ago
Reply to  TheBasicMind

He always has a way of keeping everyone guessing, it seems. Will the real Fauci stand up?

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True Spirit of America Party
True Spirit of America Party
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

So true. He is a reckless narcissist at best, if not a total cold-blooded psychopath.

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Roy Everett
Roy Everett
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

The long-term plan was published in the 2016 film comedy Grimsby: a philanthropist and the WHO collude ostensibly to make the world a better place by eradicating disease, but in reality they are part of the elite 10% trying to eliminate the 90% of scum by globally unleashing a deadly virus. Spoiler alert: the scum win thanks to a combination of natural immunity (conferred by elephant semen) and community spirit.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
2 years ago

It doesn’t make much sense to me. How can he say the “vaccines” saved lives and they say they basically don’t work?

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JXB
JXB
2 years ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

That’s because you are not a ‘scientist’ and therefore do not understand The Science™️, so you cannot and may not have an opinion.

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True Spirit of America Party
True Spirit of America Party
2 years ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Basically, it’s a very leaky “vaccine”. It does not stop infection or transmission, but in THEORY it can make the disease less bad, leading to fewer hospitalizations and deaths. In theory. In practice, not so much once the “honeymoon” period of a few months has passed and/or a new variant that is poorly matched arises. In fact, the leaky jabs select for exactly such variants, which are drawn to the jabbed like a magnet. And let’s not forget herd antigenic fixation (OAS writ very, very large) which prevented true herd immunity from occurring. And VAIDS. And IgG4 tolerance as well, where the immune system is tricked into standing down faster than NORAD on 9/11.

Net result: more harm than good in the long run, and a prolonged pandemic followed by high endemicity for the foreseeable future.

Otherwise, look at Bulgaria, India, China, South Africa, and in fact most of Africa to see what would have happened by now without high use of the gene therapy jabs. It’s basically over.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  True Spirit of America Party

I know what they claimed, but that doesn’t really seem to be what he’s saying. If the supposed benefits only last a short while (few months) then logically don’t people need to get injected in perpetuity to prevent certain death from covid?

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Corky Ringspot
Corky Ringspot
2 years ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Because in the (very) short term, they did save lives. But now the jig is up. As Fauci says and others here are underlining, the long-term effects are entirely negative. Two final points:

One: Fauci says nothing about the dreadful harms that come with that initial life-saving bit. No point dwelling, eh?

Two: The vast majority of those saved lives he refers to were of the very old. The overwhelming majority of younger people were never in any danger and have never needed a vaccine – especially not this one.

Be in no doubt: this is a piece of vermin wriggling on a hook; a confirmed premeditative murderer (read RF Kennedy’s ‘The Real Anthony Fauci’ for heaven’s sake) who’s never known good from evil, propped up by the wealthy and influential for whom he’s made so much money. The lesson, as explained here by the devil himself, is straightforward: by all means give the very elderly this wretched vaccine – it’ll possibly keep them alive for a while (the hard but realistic point being that a while is all they’ve got anyway). Also give it to the immuno-compromised, who’ve got to try something. But FFS don’t give it to anyone else. And for crying out loud don’t keep giving them more of it! People like Fauci have known this and been reminded of it for quite some time now – but the lure of the lucre has been too strong. I hope he rots in hell.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
2 years ago

Retard logic.

1-The quacksines kill and injure
2-Ergo they save people.

Like that moron Drumpf. 100 million saved. Well stupid the IFR was 0.3% – so pull out your calculator and see how many may have died if nothing was done.

The survival rate from Rona is higher than driving your car in some locations.

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Dinger64
Dinger64
2 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Exactly, take africa as an example, they did nothing and came out of it better than any western vaccy obsessed continent!

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
2 years ago

And then there’s studies like this coming out showing how absolutely brilliant they are https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(23)00015-2/fulltext. Conflicts of interesting not exactly a glowing endorsement of accuracy and independence. It seems fairly clear to me that the lies and manipulation of data will not end until all complicit are brought to justice. But they seem to also own the majority of the justice system. I cannot see how this can be dealt with without mass civil unrest and blood being spilt.

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Roy Everett
Roy Everett
2 years ago

No quantity is “innumerable”. One just need a the right system of units. For respiratory and vaccine deaths this is the Imperial System (IS).

The unit is the Ferguson (Fg) which is the number of modelled deaths needed to fill Hyde Park.

1000 Fg = 1 Fauci (Fi)
1000 Fi = 1 Gates (Gs)

There was a proposal for the Nightingale (Ng) which was equal to one thousandth of a Ferguson but this was too small to be of use, and the milliferguson (mFg) can be used instead.

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Lancer
Lancer
2 years ago
Reply to  Roy Everett

Haha, I’m liking this game. Particularly if we start utilising the Boris (Bs) as a measure of lies.

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JXB
JXB
2 years ago
Reply to  Roy Everett

Don’t forget the Cymru (Cy) that is the size/number of anything needed to fill Wales… or Luxembourg if metric.

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
2 years ago

Whether the covid jabs worked or not is wholly beside the point.
The real problems with mRNA “vaccines” are set out in this paper from Robert W. Malone MD,MS(an inventor of some of the aspects of mRNA) –

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/when-is-mrna-not-really-mrna

Despite the fact that mRNA trashes the immune system, and CV events are just the start, the plan is already in motion for ALL vaccines to be mRNA based.
Make no mistake about this. Hundreds of billions are being spent on ensuring their success.
But what a brilliant business model. The product causes a variety of autoimmune disease – then just take more gene based therapies to manage the problems which they caused in the first place.
Pure genius.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
2 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

The biggest obstacle they’re going to run into though is lack of compliance. Especially when word gets out ( because it’s highly doubtful these facts will be broadcast on the BBC or any MSM outlet ) that future vaccines will be converted to the mRNA technology. If people didn’t get their kids vaxxed with the Covid jabs then they aren’t exactly going to be willing to offer up their kids for other mRNA crud. Even if mandates are brought in ( particularly in countries such as the US, where kids can’t attend day care or education establishments in some states unless they’re up to date with vaccines ), and TPTB take the ”stick” approach and threaten people, I think enough is known now about the dangers and lack of efficacy of this particular novel platform that people will just not play ball. I know plenty adults who took the jabs themselves but drew the line with their kids. This is going to be the straw that breaks the camel’s back, for sure.

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damask-rose
damask-rose
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Hopefully the trend to homeschool will increase & escalate- as it has been doing.
along with the new independent ‘alternative’ medical care…the wellness company etc.

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ELH
ELH
2 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

This is indeed the great concern – if all our vaccines and all animal vaccines are going to be mRNA then we will be systemically poisoned and so will our food supply.

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JohnK
JohnK
2 years ago

Well, there’s a strong whiff of opportunism in certain branches of your trade. That said, the note about our tolerance of various infections, rather than over reacting to them seems reasonable. Although you haven’t mentioned allergy to various things, it occurred to me that it is kind of similar, when we become allergic to certain (relatively harmless) things like grass pollen. Of course, a cynic might note that there is a market for products that deal with that (which I do buy annually). Incidentally, someone who appeared to be a professional on the allergy issue suggested that suffering from something like pollen allergy could reduce the risk of being infected by certain viruses, on account of the total number of cells available for the viruses to attack (with many of them reacting to harmless junk, and thus not capable of a virus attack at the same time).

At the end of the day, I’m glad I said: ‘no thanks, wait and see’ – in effect. We might never know if the product under discussion did any real good – but there is a fair bit of evidence that it really has injured quite a few.

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
2 years ago

One statement that the author makes I find odd. He asks ‘Maybe in a pandemic it is necessary to accept vaccines that “elicit incomplete and short-lived protection against evolving virus variants that escape population immunity”? Perhaps one could argue something is better than nothing,…’. But the choice isn’t ‘vaccine’ or ‘nothing’; as the author also states “Finally, the authors discuss the numerous pieces of scientific evidence showing that generating a local immune response is the best way of protecting oneself from respiratory infection and that this response can be driven through T-cell immunity.”.

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10navigator
10navigator
2 years ago

Doesn’t he just look the part? A smug devious little gnome!

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RTSC
RTSC
2 years ago

So now more of the Chief Authoritarian b*stards who have wrecked millions of lives and killed tens of thousands with their “deficient vaccines” are taking small steps back from their policies ….. and hoping they’ll be forgiven.

I for one, never will. I’d like to see them dangling from the end of a rope.

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damask-rose
damask-rose
2 years ago
Reply to  RTSC

Something needs to be done, legally, hopefully, to stop this scenario ever being repeated.
To me, this is why it is essential that the truth comes out about them now.

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TJN
TJN
2 years ago

So, repeated exposure to some viral pathogens may actually be important in maintaining immunity to them and preventing them causing severe disease. This would be consistent with the observations discussed above about the limited form of immunity such exposure gives and speaks to the concept that “a challenged immune system, is a healthy immune system”. 

Yep, as sussed out in the TJN household by late April 2020, when we were trying to work out why covid was if anything a bit worse in lockdown countries. By being frequently exposed to small amounts of the virus it seemed obvious that one would gradually pick up part immunity which would eventually protect against severe disease. On here and elsewhere I used the term ‘incremental immunity’.

Thing is, we had come from the standing start of early March knowing nothing about respiratory virus infections. But if we could work this out in such a short time how come so many of the experts were apparently unaware of it?

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RTSC
RTSC
2 years ago

I wonder when the Government will stop parroting “safe and effective” and switch to “risky and ineffective” …. because that’s what the evidence shows and even Fauci is basically admitting it.

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varmint
varmint
2 years ago

But people were more or less coerced into having something that might save their life, but also might kill them. “Official Science” took over, just as it does with the phony climate crisis. Your not allowed to disagree or there must be something wrong with you.

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JayBee
JayBee
2 years ago

Early on, I read a good, sober and mildly critical article by Paul Cullen, a professor at Uni Muenster in Germany (who was of course smeared viciously later on when he stayed critical).
In it, he explained that there were 4 generally accepted criteria for a successful vaccine candidate. I don’t remember them exactly and the article was apparently so dangerous that it got erased, but they were basic things like transmission reduction, proper immunity and no animal reservoir.
The Covid ‘vaccines’ fulfilled none of them. They were the very opposite in every regard and criteria, whether mRNA or traditional.

I find this current obsession with ‘vaccines’, which the author also seems to share, as the one and only solution to everything, instead of focussing on treatments and a healthy lifestyle and supplements, medically totally crazy and morally totally unethical, driven solely by greed and the longstanding difficulties of the pharma industry to come up with useful stuff the traditional way.
Count me out taking any of them.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
2 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

And remember all of those millions of mink in Denmark that were slaughtered? And the zoo animals that had Covid jabs? It’s not until you look back at these ridiculous, cruel and unnecessary actions they took that it is confirmed to you that it never was about a virus, public health or following any scientific evidence whatsoever. And that’s obv independent of the sheer farce that was lockdowns, masking etc. Literally zero evidence-base behind any of it, and these clot shots are exactly the same in my view. Zero benefits, only risks. Now I hold that view for all vaccines too. I’m willing to bet the insatiable greed of Big Pharma and lust for power of the globalist criminals will be their downfall.

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
2 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

me too,i got the impression the article is promoting vaccines, i haven’t had any since age 5 or so and then only about 5 of them.i might have considered a yellow fever or whichever it is that was required for travel to africa , but now will never get any vaccine.
thanks to the last 3 years

and yes nothing about early treatment and healthy lifestyle.is how i knew not to get the’ vaccines’ because already knew about GMOS[ seems like like mnra is same kind of thing] thanks to the organic consumers association in the usa .
and i read the ‘new’ GMOS are going to be unlabeled in europe just as GMOS have always been unlabeled in the usa .

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Monro
Monro
2 years ago

It is the ignorance of the medical profession which is, to say the least, extremely disappointing:

‘….as variant SARS-CoV-2 strains have emerged, deficiencies in these vaccines reminiscent of influenza vaccines have become apparent.’

We have known that vaccines have deficiencies in protecting against a common cold coronavirus for years:

‘“Of course it is the failure to find a cure which has hit most strongly upon the public consciousness”, Tyrrell wrote in his memoir Cold Wars with co-author Michael Fielder in 2002. “Why, will people ask, in this age of advanced science, do we appear to have got nowhere in combating this age-old affliction? The truth is that we have made enormous progress, although it has needed detailed research in many centres. Knowing its causes, the mechanics of how it is caught and its variety of forms is a very significant advance. But it is this variety which is at the heart of the problem.”

David Tyrell, Common Cold Unit 1957-90

‘One of his favourite poems, by A P Herbert, spoke of physicians’ knowledge of the common cold: “And I will eat my only hat; if they know anything of that!”

https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140673605667220.pdf

Last edited 2 years ago by Monro
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JXB
JXB
2 years ago

’Innumerable’ = unable to be counted. Therefore impossible to produce any evidence to support the claim, therefore the exact number saved = zero until evidence can be produced to the contrary.

But we can produce abundant falsifiable evidence of the many thousands killed and injured by the experimental mRNA products, and over the coming years the death and injury toll will mount.

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RTSC
RTSC
2 years ago

Told of yet another sudden heart attack today; colleague’s mother …. aged 71. In hospital awaiting surgery.

That makes around 20 people I know (or know of) over the past 18 months who have had strokes, heart attacks and terminal cancers (some now dead). Plus the usual litany of acquaintances who have had “one bug after another” … one of whom ended up in hospital with pneumonia at Christmas.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
2 years ago

That reptile continues to spout the lie that they are safe and effective when he knows this is not the case. Apparently the covid jab has now been added to the list of childhood vaccinations in America.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago

“I would certainly agree that there needs to be more effective vaccinations”

So the author has not learned much from the last three years.

Erm, no there certainly is NO requirement for “more effective vaccinations.” The article makes clear that the attempt to vaccinate against RSV’s is wholly self defeating and actually undermines the body’s innate defences.

Strange that the author seems unaware that the C1984 “vaccines” were authorised before they were produced.

The whole argument in favour of vaccination is now holed well below the water line and modern medicine requires a total rethink and without any interference from big pharma. Nevertheless an interesting article.

Last edited 2 years ago by huxleypiggles
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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Indeed. Attempting to eradicate infectious diseases may have catastrophic consequences. They are playing with fire.

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waterbear
waterbear
2 years ago

Fauci learned a long time ago that he could say whatever contradictory statement he wants to different audiences and no one cares. He’s a politician, not a doctor.

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True Spirit of America Party
True Spirit of America Party
2 years ago

Those who fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.

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Covid-1984
Covid-1984
2 years ago

It was seasonal flu and always was. Fauci will never get over the shame and all the finger pointing to come.

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Ndege
Ndege
2 years ago

The “Pandemic” was created to permit the EUA of experimental insufficiently tested experimental vaccines and prohibit the use of all other measures.

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