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Britain’s Green ‘Chernobyl’

by Ben Pile
13 February 2025 7:00 AM

The 1986 nuclear power station disaster in the former Soviet Republic of Ukraine is widely credited with boosting the somewhat nascent green movement in its opposition to atomic energy. The Chernobyl accident, which contaminated nearly 1,000 square miles of the surrounding land, made the UK’s nuclear power programme a much harder sell to an increasingly sceptical media, driven wild by green claims, which it dutifully transmitted to the public. And even in France, a champion of the technology, development of new reactors slowed. But the real lesson of Chernobyl has long been avoided in favour of false debates about risk – a fickle concept, that can be easily misled by ideology.

In the decades since, debate has raged about the final death count caused by one of history’s most notorious industrial accidents. Researchers aligned to anti-nuclear campaign claim that as many as 60,000 deaths were caused across Europe. But according to a 2008 UN agency analysis, just 30 people were killed by exposure to high levels of radiation during the immediate aftermath. (For a sober review of the contested figures, see this decent summary.) Arrival at an accurate figure is confounded by the passions summoned by debates about nuclear energy, not unlike the climate debate, which has thrown up extremely ideologically-prone statistical methodology used to estimate mortality and risk, which are routinely confused for scientific fact.


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10navigator
10navigator
2 months ago

Good article. In summary, if you let morons formulate policy which they are then allowed to enact, don’t be surprised at the almighty cluster**** that inevitably ensues.

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Art Simtotic
Art Simtotic
2 months ago

Excellent article. Progress reflects human resolve and ingenuity prevailing over risks to life and limb.

Health, wellbeing and life expectancy correlate with sanitation, running water, mains electricity, supplies of gas and nuclear power, the Haber-Bosch process and overall economic prosperity. Likewise the clean environment green zealots bang on about ad nauseam.
 
The Politburo doesn’t get the basics of how hundreds of years of social, technical and industrial progress lifted the developed world out of the squalor and tyranny of feudalism. Reliable, affordable and unbounded energy supply was, and still is, fundamental to progress.

The Student Union Government is instead fixated on the ramblings of those ne’er do wells, Marx and Engels, that may have had some 19th century relevance, but are now ancient doctrine gone rancid and sour.

Predicated on climate claptrap and energy folly, a Great Leap Backwards beckons. Witness Western European economic mass insanity.

The Kommissars Must Fall. 

Last edited 2 months ago by Art Simtotic
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sskinner
sskinner
2 months ago
Reply to  Art Simtotic

All true, but…
“The Politburo doesn’t get the basics of how hundreds of years of social, technical and industrial progress lifted the developed world out of the squalor…”
The lions share of human advances took place in just the last 200 years. Please see Buckminster Fullers chronology of the Industrial Revolution below using the Periodic Table as a key reference. Notice also the number of inventions. The abolition of slavery was in 1830 around the same time as the Factory Act 1832. Notice also the change in transportation across the top. My Father was born 12 years after the Wright Brothers first flight and before he retired Humans had been to the Moon.

Fuller-Profile-of-Indstrial-Revolution
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Art Simtotic
Art Simtotic
2 months ago
Reply to  sskinner

Agreed, progress really took off in the last two hundred years. With a bit of imagination. I can just about relate to the world of 1854 (year of one of my great grandmothers’ birth), but not to the world of a century earlier than that. Great Grandma’s life likely began in the era of wells and middens, and ended in 1937 in a house with mains electricity.

I’d argue, however, that the seeds of the 1830s onwards were set by the advances in scientific thinking of Boyle, Hooke, Newton et al, that began around the 1660s. Foundational era of the empirical scientific method. Let there be Light, let there be Enlightenment.

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sskinner
sskinner
2 months ago
Reply to  Art Simtotic

True. We should also include Magna Carta, the Lollards, the English Bible, the Reformation and I think the pivotal English Civil War. The change from an Autocratic monarchy as well as the affects on working practices caused by the plague took the brakes off. Cromwell had already started the agricultural revolution with the draining of the Fens. When King Charles II was restored to the thrown he tried to restore the authority of the Monarch and get us back into Europe, or rather the Roman Catholic Church, and failed on both counts. He tried to shut down the coffee houses in London where all could meet, talk and trade without regard to status, or even gender and he failed on that too. Monarchy and to a large extent the aristocracy became irrelevant. The first commercial steam engine was in 1710, a mere 50 years after the Restoration, and 17 BEFORE the last women was burned as a witch. All nations up to this point were powered by men, horses, and sail. The steam engine was a multiplier and it is significant that engine power is still measured in horses.

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Epi
Epi
2 months ago
Reply to  Art Simtotic

“The Kommissars Must Fall” oh they will just a matter of when and how much devastation they cause in the meantime.

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Dinger64
Dinger64
2 months ago

Purely using common sense it would seem the lower end of the variables more likely when it comes to deaths caused
The amount of land effected and its effects on humans living on it afterwards is almost impossible to calculate
I would say nuclear is nowhere near as dangerous as is proposed by the green blob and I would certainly prefer it to acres of wind turbines and solar panels
Nuclear waste, which is partly recyclable, is another conversation that needs being opened up to public debate instead of being instantly used as a big stick by the blob
We really do need grown ups in power at the moment, like never before!

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Epi
Epi
2 months ago
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Unfortunately the grownups are sadly lacking or swiftly put to the sword – metaphorically speaking.

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varmint
varmint
2 months ago

The world needs energy. We always hear of the risks of using certain fuels but NEVER about the risks of NOT USING THEM—–Without coal gas oil or Nuclear we are back in the middle ages and going to work on a horse, dying young of preventable disease and of injuries caused by back breaking labour. —–There are forces to day trying to control energy use, and infact almost everything else human beings do as well. —-GREEN = RED.

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Epi
Epi
2 months ago
Reply to  varmint

Presumably judging by your last comment you have read James Delingpole’s Watermelons (or perhaps you ARE James Delingpole 😂).

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JohnK
JohnK
2 months ago

There has been no shortage of anti-nuclear output about the Chernobyl disaster, but it appears that the design of the particular type of reactor had a built in risk, and they fell foul of it during it’s operation, or maintenance thereof. Not all of the stations in the ex-USSR are the same.

Historically, the old USSR was quite keen on the use of electric traction on it’s railways. Back in 1996, I travelled from Beijing via Mongolia then into Russia and all the way as far as London by train, and once we were on the Siberian route after the Mongolia/Russia border, it was all overhead electric (via Moscow, Warsaw, Berlin, Köln, Brussels). You can travel all the way from the Pacific across the continent that way. You can’t do that across the pond!

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Epi
Epi
2 months ago
Reply to  JohnK

That sounds fantastic – a trip of a lifetime!

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stewart
stewart
2 months ago

Central planning is lethal.

45 million people died as a result of Mao Zedong’s Great Leap Forward – perhaps the greatest number of deaths attributable to the folly of a single man (or small group of people.) To be clear, those were unintended, accidental deaths.

For comparison, 36 million died in WWII and 13 million in WWI.

Allowing a few people to exert immense power and influence over many others is just really dangerous and should not be allowed. It almost always goes wrong at some point. That is the single most compelling argument for small government, in my opinion.

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
2 months ago
Reply to  stewart

Central Planning is fab, or so i heard on the BBC the other day. People don’t want EVs, so sales are only 21K monthly as opposed to the 28K mandate. Manufacturers can’t manufacture them profitably, and have thrown over £4bn trying to shift the ones they can’t sell.

So, said the man on the news, if the motor manufacturers can’t make them affordable, “the government will have to step up to the plate.” Meaning, of course, that because the public can’t afford them, they’ll have to pay for them anyway through taxation.

So if we are to lead the way to saving the planet, central planning is the sine qua non.

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Keencook
Keencook
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

In passing, I heard a story via a friend of someone trying to buy a normal white diesel van for his business (still going). The dealer couldn’t let him have one until he had managed to sell a quota of Electric vans – so over a year he was able to ‘release/sell’ only 3 ‘normal’ vans as EVs don’t sell very well. How on earth have we managed to achieve this?

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Epi
Epi
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

Everyone seems very keen on Latin today.

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
2 months ago
Reply to  Epi

It’s yer actual classical education innit? Courtesy of J. Caesar you get to learn how to make accurate measurements with a water-clock without a Lithium battery in sight. Noli illegitimi carborundum.

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beejammer
beejammer
2 months ago
Reply to  stewart

On the upside he’s also the greatest drug reformer in history. Prior to his coming to power there were millions of opium addicts in China. By executing dealers AND those caught using it there were very few opium users left by the time he died.

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RTSC
RTSC
2 months ago

Yesterday’s Reform Press Conference on the subject of “renewable energy” and the Net Zero scam is worth watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxTrWTWBoM4

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
2 months ago
Reply to  RTSC

Thanks. I will try to work my way through it, though so far disappointed that they are using the term “renewable” without qualification as I think it’s misleading. But perhaps they cover that later.

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sskinner
sskinner
2 months ago

In the surrounding forests around Chernobyl there are no 2 headed wolves or five legged dear or deformed trees, or any deformed life. This also means It is also not a desolate wasteland devoid of life.

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sskinner
sskinner
2 months ago
Reply to  sskinner

Not far above Las Vegas is Area 51, and a couple of valleys to the West is one of the United State’s nuclear test ground. I’ve attached below a Google Earth screen grab of this area. Each crater is from a nuclear test. It is possible for people to visit.

Nevada-Testing-Ground
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Epi
Epi
2 months ago
Reply to  sskinner

Didn’t Clarkson visit Chernobyl on one of his Top Gear tours? They all seemed to have survived.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 months ago

Absolutely first class. So much information packed in to this article. It’s like a Roman banquet.

Thank you.

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
2 months ago

We owe the “linear, no threshold” model to Hermann Muller, who knew it was false as he collected his Nobel Prize from research by his own team members. It has somehow become an axiom in many sciences, even though in fact it has never been demonstrated scientifically because it is, indeed, false.

It’s not only irrational fear of radioactivity that has been fostered by this (in that case, directly by Muller’s advice to the US government). Muller used it first to make the case that, since heavy radiation causes genetic mutations (hence the Incredible Hulk!), Darwinian evolution would easily work by stray radiation causing tiny, selectable, mutations.

That forms the basic assumption of modern evolutionary theory, but is as untrue as the death estimates from nuclear accidents.

But consider also PM2.5 particles in diesel and other air pollution – ALL the supposed deaths are based on linear no threshold.

On the other side, how do you think proponents of fossil fuels in developing countries estimate the deaths caused by cooking over open fires? Do they count respiratory illnesses or bodies? No, more estimates of toxicity based on linear no threshold.

Likewise when the EU and other regulators ban fertilizers or other chemicals… same reasoning.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 months ago

I remain convinced that one of the central aims of Nut Zero is depopulation.

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Howard Arnaud
Howard Arnaud
2 months ago

‘there is no such thing as a safe dose of radiation’.

The curse of safetyism writ large for the purposes of control.

According to Wikipedia:

40K is the radioisotope with the largest abundance in the human body. In healthy animals and people, 40K represents the largest source of radioactivity, greater even than 14C. In a human body of 70 kg, about 4,400 nuclei of 40K decay per second.

Oh dear, even living isn’t ‘safe’.

Maybe that’s why the eugenicists want to kill us all.

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beejammer
beejammer
2 months ago

Excellent article – the only point I would take (minor) issue with is “And that’s before we’ve even considered the further consequences of rising energy prices, such as unemployment, living in a cold home, reduced levels of public services and so on.” Doesn’t the previously quoted £238 per year income/month of life expectancy ratio already explain/account for that?

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JXB
JXB
2 months ago

“Greens get very worried about the risk of nuclear accidents. But have they considered that the economic devastation of Net Zero will cause far more deaths than were ever suffered by Ukraine after Chernobyl, asks Ben Pile.”

And I ask Ben Pile have you considered economic devastation and many deaths is exactly what Greens want?

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Coracoid
Coracoid
2 months ago

Ben Pile is a constant voice of reason. I do hope that his lucid, referenced pieces resonate far more widely than merely in the (inevitable) echo chamber of this forum.

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Jackthegripper
Jackthegripper
2 months ago

A good read, thank you.

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Charles Exley
Charles Exley
2 months ago

Excellent article and a very useful statistic to counter the “you can’t put a value on granny’s life” covid claptrap from the so called conservatives. Arguably you confuse annual and capital spending but it’s a great point nevertheless!

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marebobowl
marebobowl
2 months ago

The photo in this article says it all. This part of the world is dead.

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Darren Gee
Darren Gee
2 months ago

I’m all for nuclear, but the article really cannot make its claims without looking at the history of nuclear accidents in Britain (and their coverups), particularly the Windscale event.

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Skepticus
Skepticus
2 months ago

I keep writing to the RSPB about the carnage being brought to bird life in name of Green energy and all i get back are “party line” replies, and now they are saying that solar farms will actually enhance birdlife..! So why not glass over the whole country and see how that goes!. Please can folks here write to the RSPB in hope that its not just me saying this to them, as they probably regard me as some sort of annoying crank.

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