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Labour’s New National Curriculum Will Mean Even More Children are Taught to Hate Our Country

by Joe Baron
31 December 2024 5:00 PM

Children are already being brainwashed in many of Britain’s schools. They are taught to despise their country and hold it responsible for every global injustice and societal ill in existence. Labour’s changes to the national curriculum will simply add rocket fuel to this already widespread development.

Bridget Phillipson, the Education Secretary, plans to overhaul the school curriculum to better reflect the “diversities of society”. As part of the review preceding the changes, scientific institutions such as The Royal Society of Biology have proposed the teaching of “non-Western” discoveries, a “decolonised” curriculum and an approach that jettisons an emphasis on Western scientific heroes. They are also proposing that an explanation be given for the West’s disproportionate contribution to scientific discoveries and the disadvantages suffered by the Orient. One can only imagine the reasons teachers will be expected to give. Colonialism, perhaps?

According to The Association of School and College Leaders, these proposals and the project that inspired them are a rejection of the current curriculum that “prioritises a somewhat monocultural worldview”. They are indeed specifically designed to deny the achievements of the nation and weave a narrative of the shameful expropriation of once flourishing civilisations.

This is nothing new, despite the erroneous claim that the current curriculum is “monocultural”. But it is an extension and formalisation of an existing anti-British agenda.

Some years ago, I had an indicative experience in a predominantly Muslim school. I overheard three colleagues discussing the evils of the British Empire. “I despise it,” one snarled. “Me too! Look at Amritsar, what we did to the Native American Indians and our involvement in the Middle East,” another opined, shaking his head in disapproval. “I really can’t think of anything positive to say about it,” the third lamented.

I worked in an academy at the time, as I said, with a large Muslim population. To be more precise, over 80% of the school’s children were Islamic, some, of course, more devout than others, all from varying traditions.

Now, one might be forgiven for thinking that this very demographic is the one most susceptible to radicalisation. That doesn’t mean they’re all potential terrorists. Of course not. But let’s be honest: they are more at risk of being radicalised than pupils in, say, a Church of England school.

So surely, as teachers, we should be aware of this fact and act accordingly through the promotion of British values and the delivery of a positive narrative that encourages integration?

But in my school at the time, as demonstrated, many of my colleagues – particularly in the history department – were actively encouraging children most susceptible to radicalisation to hate their own country.

They were discussing a unit provocatively titled, ‘Should we be proud of the British empire?’ And as you can probably gauge from their rather one-sided conversation – and the simplistic, reductive scheme of work that supported it – it was a loaded question with only one answer in mind: No! We should be ashamed of it.

They irresponsibly and outrageously sacrificed neutrality, historical accuracy and objectivity on the high altar of unthinking subjectivism and banal sentimentalism driven by feelings of post-colonial guilt.

How on earth can these dangerous individuals, so willing to do ISIL’s work for them, be allowed to teach our children?

That is not to say that we shouldn’t make our pupils aware of the misdeeds committed by ‘Perfidious Albion’ in its colonial endeavours. But we should also be encouraging the children to explore the benign gifts bestowed upon the world by Britain’s two-hundred-year hegemony.

The spread of capitalism, the world’s first and only lingua franca, parliamentary democracy and the rule of law; the propagation of ideas, literature, technological and medical advances; the abolition of the slave trade and its global enforcement by British naval power during the period known as Pax Britannica; and finally, its assault upon the forces of fascism and militarism during the Second World War.

Now, how can my colleagues not think of any positive consequences of Britain’s imperial domination? They are either grossly ignorant, blinded by their own bias or being deliberately deceitful.

Even the concept of empire – a concept that we rightly reject today – should be contextualised. From the Umayyad dynasty to the Ottomans, the Romans to the great seaborne empires of France and Britain, until recently, imperialism and colonialism were staple features of global geopolitics, as was slavery. You cannot therefore properly analyse and evaluate the British empire without placing it within this contextual framework.

In fact, bearing this in mind, the question of whether it was a force for good is far too simplistic. But that’s another story.

I am not calling for a sanitised account of Britain’s imperial past, just a balanced one, firmly rooted in reality.

However, I witnessed predominantly Muslim children being force-fed a diet of anti-British propaganda – a diet both inaccurate and, more importantly, one which plays into the hands of those who wish to do us harm.

It’s important to recognise, as well, that this is no exception. The school I teach at now is very similar. We urge our children to demand that museums hand back “plundered” artefacts, even though said museums may have acquired them legally and in complex circumstances that, in the case of the Benin bronzes for example, make repatriation inordinately difficult, if not impossible.

Labour’s decision to “diversify” the curriculum, which, ironically, will tolerate no dissent, will simply make an already widespread practice ubiquitous in Britain’s schools. Given the threat posed to Britain by Islamist terrorists, this should give us pause for thought.

Joe Baron is the pseudonym of a history teacher at a London secondary school.

Tags: Association of School and College LeadersBridget PhillipsonDecolonisationEducationNational Curriculum

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago

It has been going on for generations but now it has taken over the culture completely – manipulation not medicine

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3099/rr-5

This is the most disgusting thing: writing to 5 year-olds pretending that vaccination is a fancy dress party. This must stop

https://twitter.com/CensoredJourno/status/1509312218109820928

Last edited 3 years ago by PhantomOfLiberty
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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

How do we stop it in a burgeoning and Propaganda Media driven Police State controlled by a tyrant operating under “Emergency Regulations” taking his orders from Globalists beyond these shores and where our elected MPs are now completely powerless and worthless?

Forcing a potentially gene altering vaccination onto 5 year olds? Pure unchallenged Evil is abroad!

Last edited 3 years ago by David Beaton
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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

We are doing what we can simply by reading and posting here. Others are doing what they can by taking legal action. Others by protests, others by non compliance, others by writing articles, others by speaking out and risking their job and profession.

There are 1,001 different, small ways we can make a difference.

The most important is optimism. Nothing man has ever achieved has been without optimism that it will succeed.

So we move ahead doing what we can in the belief that we can succeed.

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Absolutely – well said!

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Great post RedhotScot – you have made me more determined to be more optimistic!

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

“Pure unchallenged Evil is abroad!”

Covid vaccines to rule them all,
Test & Trace to find them,
NHS to jab them all
and in the darkness bind them.

Last edited 3 years ago by Emerald Fox
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mda
mda
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

…In The Land of Davos Where The Shadows Lie!

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mda
mda
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

In The Land Of Davos Where The Shadows Lie!

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

This is the most disgusting thing: writing to 5 year-olds pretending that vaccination is a fancy dress party. This must stop.

They can’t see that this kind of messaging is extremely dangerous to children?!

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

These scum ARE a danger to children.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

Yes. If they don’t realise what dangerous messaging they are using, they must not be permitted to be with children without serious supervision.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

If they do understand, they should be charged with criminal offences.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

They understand, I think we can be sure of that.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

They must never be allowed near children, including their own.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

They don’t care – they just want them jabbed however they go about it. How on earth they can sleep at night is beyond me.

In days of yore when I had a cat, if I ever accidentally trod on his paw it bothered me for days. These people???

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

They don’t have a conscience.

That’s why there must be external punishment. It probably won’t give them the necessary sense of social responsibility, but it might make them think twice about their future actions and deter others.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

My god, that’s a new low.

That’s not far off of “Puppies, ice cream, and a windowless white van with a tearstained mattress.”

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Vallance’ll Fix it!

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

windowless white van with a tearstained mattress.

Vaccine buses in deprived areas luring people in with offers of free sex and sweets:

Heres HMGs new CONVID JABS ARE GOOD FOR KIDS – SAVE A LIFE – GET YOUR KID JABBED ads and van they use to spread the good word of true evil

JAB HAPPY
How can I get free Krispy Kreme donuts EVERY DAY after Covid vaccine?
https://www.the-sun.com/lifestyle/consumer/2560012/krispy-kreme-free-donut-every-day-covid-vaccination-card/

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Here are the directors of South Downs Health & Care Ltd:

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/10075871/officers

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

The modern medical system, of which contracts for chemicals form a principal pillar, was set up about 100 years ago when the Rockefellers diversified after the breakup of Standard Oil.

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

The entity in the name of which this filthy approach to five-year-olds was sent is called South Downs Health and Care Ltd. This is their board:

Mark Cannon – Chief Executive Officer

Nick Harvey * – Chair

Raj Chandarana * – Clinical Director

Antonio Serrano * – Clinical Governance Lead

Others on their “team” are:

Andrea Fear – Head of Corporate Services

Iulia Moraru – Business Development Lead

Lee Brown – Head of Business Intelligence

Kirstie Ingram – Chief Pharmacist

Karen Yates – nurse consultant, clinical lead at their Primary Care Hub.

The company is registered with company number 10075871. It’s a private limited company and going by Companies House information its current officers are Cannon, Chandarana, and Harvey.

For Cannon I found no other officerships at English-registered companies.

Chandarana is a director of a company called Parvani Ltd, which has the same registered office address as South Downs Health and Care Ltd. (5 Cornfield Terrace, Eastbourne, United Kingdom, BN21 4NN.) Parvani Ltd was previously called Dynamic Healthcare Management Ltd.

Harvey is a director of another company too: Digitalis Technology Ltd (registered office Thames House, 2nd Floor, 3 Wellington Street, London, SE18 6NY; other directors Sayed Shahzad Hussain and Ajay Neil Kemwal). Digitalis (which is the Latin name for foxglove) has a website here.
These are the kind of personages the mindless fools who “clap for the NHS” are really clapping for.

Note

(*) – These three characters use the absence of legal protection over the term “doctor” to call themselves “doctors” although unless anybody can show otherwise there is no reason to believe that any of them hold a doctorate in anything.

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

An important point: doctors have ethical obligations, these people can do anything thy want. Erlking Services? And they have your contact details btw…

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

But some of them it seems are doctors

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

Here you can see some of their faces:

http://www.sdhc.org.uk/our-team/

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

You can write to us at:
SDHC Ltd, GP Federation
Devonshire Suite (3rd Floor)
Greencoat House
32 St Leonard’s Road
Eastbourne
East Sussex
BN21 3UT

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/10075871/officers

Here’s a review (sick bucket at the ready!):

https://www.nhs.uk/services/independent-provider/south-downs-health-and-care-ltd/X133953/ratings-and-reviews

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

I don’t swear often, and tend to reserve it for really offensive situations LIKE THIS ONE!!!

Who, the fcuk are the “superheroes and princesses” (disgusting disneyification) they refer to in the invitation they are issuing to 5 year olds? Are the superheroes and princesses the people doing the jabbing? Is this how they see themselves now?

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

And someone should send this twitter post to the team bringing the case on behalf of the children against the jabbing so that they can submit it in their evidence as the tactics being used to lure and beguile the children into getting jabbed.

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago

“It comes as the health board has issued a “black alert”, urging people to only visit hospital if absolutely necessary.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-60921583

will we ever learn? Don’t go to A&E, its probably just indigestion

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

You can never build enough supply to meet the demand for free stuff, especially when you’re making that offer to the entire world.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Well using that subsidy to be able to hire staff cheaper.

Wonder who benefits from cheap labour subsidised by middle class taxes??

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

This stuff is (was?) “free” at the point of collection, but it isn’t useful to the consumer. Hence more than market economics needs to be taken into account when criticising it.

WTF does it matter whether a person is omicron-positive or not? It doesn’t.

If they have a cold, they’ll know they have one because their nose will run and they’ll probably have a headache too. If they don’t feel up to being out and about, they should go and have a lie down.

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

“If they don’t feel up to being out and about, they should go and have a lie down.”

Otherwise known as self imposed lockdown.

Entirely natural and sensible.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

But only until they feel better – not for an arbitrary number of days afterwards (which varies widely depending on the country / attitudes at the time / which way the wind is blowing).

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Just the way you would do if you had the flu. In the olden days.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Pure flu you don’t need a test to know you got it, and many can’t get out of bed so no worries about transmission.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

The inference being that they think most people are time wasters

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Welcome to the NHS.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

I suspect many are.

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John
John
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

This is not an A&E problem alone. Unlike England there are no urgent care centres in Wales, they are dependent on out of hours GP services or A&E. It is difficult to triage a patient remotely, you need to know the right questions (see link below for what happened in the Shrewsbury area when this was inadequate).
Most 111 services follow a flow chart and in most cases this results in the person being advised to attend A&E. Chest pain A&E; shortness of breath A&E etc.
I will relate one story from my days working in A&E, an ambulance brought in a young man after receiving a 999 call from him. It was winter and there was ice on the country roads. The call was from an address in the city but the ambulance was 20 miles away. The problem was reported as a haemorrhage, so blues and twos across country in the ice. When they got there, the haemorrhage was a tiny spot on his face. He said he wanted to go to A&E, which he did but was given short shrift by the nurse in charge.
https://www.nmc.org.uk/globalassets/sitedocuments/ftpoutcomes/2022/march-2022/reasons-roberts-ftpcsh-68176-20220310.pdf

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Meanwhile, running radio and TV adverts imploring people not to ignore chest pain. It may be the sign of a heart attack.

I don’t recall hearing those adverts before ‘vaccinations’ were imposed on the country.

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John
John
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Those adverts did appear prior to 2021.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

And adverts telling people if they feel something is wrong in their body that it might be cancer and they should book an appointment to see their GP.

Not bloody likely where I live. My GP surgery won’t let “people” (AKA patients) in through the front door.

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Javy
Javy
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Last year I had an op for bowel cancer. It was only discovered after a blood test showed very low iron levels. Two days ago I rang my GP’s surgery to ask if I could come in for a simple blood test just to make sure my iron levels were OK. The receptionist told me I needed a consultation with one of the doctors first and she offered me a telephone call two weeks hence. The reason for the delay was that a lot of staff were off with COVID……

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

That’s all the climate change.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

Wait five years for a knee operation
Make 100+ phone calls to a GP surgery only to be told by a rude ignorant receptionist that the doctor might ring you back
A doctor in the pub boasts he hasn’t met a patient face to face in 2 years
Fobbed off and lied to

If we are not to get a health service lets go the whole hog and give us our money back

Last edited 3 years ago by Cecil B
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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Now just a standard NHS experience for most of us!

Last edited 3 years ago by David Beaton
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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

I’ve had very little contact with the NHS for the last 45 years, but one thing I keep hearing from those who deal with it is that the GP receptionists that they speak to are getting ruder and ruder, really vilely rude in some cases.

It seems that if they are only moderately passive aggressive, that counts as a reasonably good experience nowdays. The general attitude seems to be that patients are a bunch of scroungers and malingerers, and that they should do what they’re damned well told – which is usually shut up and wait indefinitely – and not complain about it.

It would be great if the reputation of the medical “profession” could fall as fast as the reputation of banks did in 2008. Before 2008, very few in Britain dared criticise banks. Tell them a high street bank was a bunch of cheating lying criminals, and their jaws would drop for about half a second before they forgot what you just said. But that changed.

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

I have had my fair share of sullen, overbearing and sarcastic receptionists however, there are means by which to deal with them. They are not doctors so have no right to even inquire as to your illness. They are not triage trained so can’t make a decision on the pecking order of who is seen when.

There is usually a Surgery Manager. If you want to go above the receptionist’s head, ask for them, not a doctor, and make your feelings known. They cannot argue with how you feel. In my experience they trip over themselves to be accommodating.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Good advice. Thank you. Might give it a go.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Depends on the GP practice.
The receptionists at my GP practice are trained to ask questions to ascertain whether a GP or nurse practitioner or nurse appointment is required so they do ask questions regarding the reason for calling.
Thankfully the only dragons in the reception team are like Idris from Ivor the Engine 🙂

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Javy
Javy
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Might be worth contacting the Quality Care Commission. They offer a feedback service for both good and bad experiences in health care settings.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

Dunno that they are getting ruder – there have always been plenty of obnoxious ones.

I used to think it must take a lot of training and practice to perfect that overt disdain for patients, but an experience last year indicated that it’s an innate skill.I had to make one of my (fortunately rare) visits to the GP. Young receptionist, no more than early 20s, but she had the sterotypical approach perfected already. Ignored me for a few minutes and continued typing, then looked disdainfully at me (from behind a plastic screen, naturally) and said ‘Can you wear a mask’ (phrased as an order). I said that no, I’m afraid I can’t and I have an appointment with Dr xyz. She pointed me to the waiting area with a contemptuous sniff and went back to her typing…

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

They don’t like it when it’s time to go home and they find some sod has let the air out of their tyres! Fire with fire.

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Fingal
Fingal
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

If you could spend a day in a doctor’s telephone centre, you would understand just how massively the wrong way round you have this.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  Fingal

If you are suggesrting that a doctor’s telephone centre is a bad place to be, perhaps you might consider how much better it would be if the lazy ruddy GPs actually did what they are paid upwardfs of £100K a year to do – SEE PATIENTS

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Fingal
Fingal
3 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

A spectacularly ignorant comment – and offensive if any doctor had the time or inclination to join this website and read it

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

we’d have been better off without the whole thing for the last 2 years

they stopped treatment for anything but covid and they didn’t do much for covid (bed rest and shit food) – you are better off treating yourself at home – at least you won’t die of starvation or thirst

we’d have got through the pandemic without it and would have been left our taxes to pay for what we need elsewhere

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Imagine if the many trougheries in the Palace of Westminster started serving up NHS-grade near-food products.

If it’s good enough for patients, it’s good enough for MPs, right?

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

To be fair to NHS staff (as opposed to the institution) I was booked in for a hip replacement in Feb. 2020. It was delayed until September because of covid, but I can’t praise (most of) the medical and nursing staff highly enough.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

The NHS was probably a very nice idea when it started out, providing basic healthcare to a pretty self reliant population that didn’t expect too much. It was also a younger population that as a whole didn’t live to far beyond their retirement age.

Fast foward to 2022. Expectations have ballooned, because the demand for healthcare is limitless and people these days are just more entitled. The population is much older and the proportion of retired people is huge. In addition, the service has expanded into a gigantic, inefficient bureaucratic behemoth.

So expectations are too high, demands are too high and the system is unmanageable.

I have no doubt that those who are in charge know this perfectly well but have literally no clue what to do about it and are way too fearful of the population’s reaction if they try to actually solve the problem. Hell, they don’t even dare voice the problem because it involves telling the population some hard truths and we know politicians don’t do that.

It is the problem of our times – out of control social welfare that has become unsustainable and a society that is incapable of reacting to the problem.

There is only one way this goes: degradation and eventual collapse.

Personally I can’t wait. Yes, let the service go and let us decide how we spend our healthcare money. Unfortunately, I doubt it will happen soon enough.

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Fingal
Fingal
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Our per capita spending is far below Germany and France and a fraction of the US. Given what we spend, the value and productivity of the NHS is outstanding.

That doesn’t mean it can’t be improved, but it does a better job than the US.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  Fingal

Wrong metrics Fingal, as always chosen by NHS supporters. The only metrics that count in a health service are the clinical outcomes and on these the UK fails miserably

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Stewart I am afraid I have news for you – if you can’t or don’t want to access the “service” the NHS provides you shouldn’t think you will be getting your money back or won’t have to pay for it any longer. You will.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Coercion always works best for the coercer.

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago

how come the envy of the world hasn’t been copied by any other countries?

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disgruntled246
disgruntled246
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

That’s the *boom* question isn’t it. The one which the NHS enthusiasts are unable to answer. And they always point to the US system as the only alternative, as if there’s nothing in between.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  disgruntled246

The obvious one is to have public health insurance and private doctors and hospitals.

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disgruntled246
disgruntled246
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

But it’s always ‘so you want us to be like America then?’ because saying ‘so you want us to be like Belgium/Germany/France then?’ would elicit the answer YES PLEASE.

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Fingal
Fingal
3 years ago
Reply to  disgruntled246

Germany & France spend much more per capita on health than we do. And the US is off the scale.

The NHS is an amazing performer considering the funding.

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Star
Star
3 years ago

Maybe the retired dentist can tell us how he feels about all the lies he has told, presumably for decades, and about how he has manipulated people without their knowing – or being able to say even if they did know – and how he money-grabbed every hour of the working day for decades, if he wants anybody to take him seriously on social issues.

Pharmaceutical companies, huh? Like GlaxoSmithKline, owners of Sensodyne? Who HAVEN’T they got on the board of the British Dental Association?

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

Its played out as doctors and nurses too scared to speak out, one almost feels sorry for them

I suspect nearer the truth is that they didn’t give a toss about the patients and lied through their teeth to them

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

I actually believe the main reason probably is that they are too scared to speak out. I just don’t think it’s an acceptable excuse.

Some times life is hard and puts you in tough spots. Tough shit, deal with it. Nobody said doing the right thing had to be easy. Generally it isn’t.

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago

Britain has has a two plus two equals five culture which dominates all the corrupted, Common Purpose contaminated institutions. They are clearly brainwashed, the vasy majority of people who work for them. They believe in the criminals and they are all in with their beliefs that the government is legit. Its not, its a massive organised crime, terrorism and brainwashing network whose ethos and vision and modus operando is based entirely on deceiving and manipulating the people who fund it to satisfy the depraved wishes of the pedo network (Jeffrey Epstein and Jimmy Saville both intimately involved with government and Royalty – this is what is really controlling the world – those who have the power to run these operations for decades and bypass proseution and enquiry even though they are committing the most henious crimes) who control it, and not a lot else.

This is the world that has been created, and until people call it out, reject and rebel en masse, it will continue to get worse.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

I’d add picture of a massive 2.5 tonne electric car (perhaps a Tesla Model X) with the label “SAVING THE PLANET” , or “GREEN”

Last edited 3 years ago by Marcus Aurelius knew
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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

And a landfill full of lateral flow tests with the words “Less-plastic”.

Or a photo of Boris’ private jet – a Union Jack painted Airbus A321neo, with the word “Efficient”.

Or a photo of the wind turbine that recently snapped in half in the wind and the word “sustainable”.

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Hopeless - "TN,BN"
Hopeless - "TN,BN"
3 years ago

The day that this Government, the Opposition (sic) or anyone concerned in the Covid Management Catastrophe hold their hands up with honesty, sincerity and a determination to never let it happen again, Hell will have frozen over.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless - "TN,BN"

The wrong kind of Hell. But, nevertheless!

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loopDloop
loopDloop
3 years ago

Again, so much clutter around a problem whose root cause is simple to identify: the doctor’s God complex. The profession of doctor is a weird one in what it does to the ego of the person. Trained from medical school to believe they are superior, that they have ‘special powers’, that they are the ones who actually perform the healing, they are warped right out of the gate. It’s the same problem that affected/affects the priesthood, the delusion that joining the profession confers a godlike status.

I remember as a child listening to Professor Julius Sumner Miller on tv in Australia. One day I read an interview with him. He was asked, if you were appointed Minister for Education, what is the first thing you would do. He answered: close all the schools. And I was there, yes.

So there’s my solution for the problem with the NHS. Close the hospitals. Sack all the doctors. Throw out all the pharmaceuticals. You think things would be worse? How could they be? We don’t have a health system, we have a god-complex problem.

And just like the tribe in New Guinea who woke up one day, realised what the problem was and hung the shaman from a tree, so we too need to wake up from this delusion. The body heals itself. Start there.

Oh yeah, sure, broken legs, whatever. So we build a new medicine. I have no idea how, all I know is how to destroy the old system. So don’t put me in charge. But otherwise, yeah, there it is.

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Doom Slayer
Doom Slayer
3 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

I live with one and i 100% agree. Egos are a massive problem. There is a huge amount of politics that go on in the nhs, especially between cock waving consultants (but the women are just as bad in many ways). And its all to the detriment of patient care. I think fundamentally they care about patients, but only on their terms. There are problems between the various ethnic groups because a lot really dont get on. But its ok unless whites are involved. And the worst of the lot is unsurprisingly the management. Spineless useless clowns apart from the odd one. Will do everything to not have to make decisions and pass the buck.

Not once has the other half done any waiting list initiative work. They dont want to pay for the saturday lists. The consultants arent interested because they are whacked with tax, fees and pension costs so it ends up not being worth it. And they cant catch up during the week because they dont have the space to do more. Its a crock of shit in general and nobody has the balls to sort it. The mrs gets it both barrels from me and generally agrees. And dont get me started on the complete ignorance about the ‘vaccines’ with the staff she works with. Heads in the sand. She has tried to inform them and is now on the sceptic side of the argument, but they dont want to know and dont care. No wonder we are in such a mess when the people you expect to be knowledgable about medical interventions are clueless.

Last edited 3 years ago by Doom Slayer
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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Doom Slayer

Great insight. Thanks for sharing.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

The body is constantly in a search for ways in which to heal itself. Trust your instincts – those are your body’s way of telling you what it wants and needs.

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Francis64
Francis64
3 years ago

The word ‘sorry’ came up in such a detached and cold manner that it almost seemed as if he was trying to make the public feel sorry for him having to deal with the hospital concerned.

I’m always very wary of individuals who cannot say or who have trouble saying the word sorry and if they do say sorry its done in such a cold manner and without any real sincerity behind that its usually just a means of getting them off the hook. In my opinion people who can never be truly sorry for their mistakes are usually incredibly f*cked-up individuals not worth the time of day.

I often wonder if this is why we find ourselves in the dire situation we’re in – people who cannot issue a sincere apology for their blunders are incredibly poor leaders – they are the complete opposite of what strong leadership is all about – the inability to say the word sorry just makes them look vulnerable, insecure and full of self doubt despite their confident outward appearance – they’re usually just full of bullsh*t.

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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago
Reply to  Francis64

To apologise is to admit error, if they admit error it will damage their future election chances so it doesn’t happen.

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

Their characters make them resist uttering words of genuine apology to those whom they consider to be untermensch. They feel it as a huge indignity and concession, like eating a turd sandwich.

Probably if Sajid Javid knocks into his wife by accident and causes her to drop something, he can apologise genuinely the same way as most people can. (Although that’s not certain. Some politicians are c***s to everyone, including in their private lives, apart from to those they’re crawling to or conniving with – they’ve got “C*** C*** C***” written on every cell in their bodies. It’s possible Javid is of that type. He certainly came across like a gangster when he told someone on Twitter to “show some respect”. Priti Patel is probably of that type.)

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

He is also Asian. They have a real problem with losing face. A very strong cultural taboo. We tend to associate it with the far east, but it is commonplace in many Asian cultures.

Naturally this is verboten to mention. But someone has to point out the effects of culturally distinct people assuming positions of authority in our country to which they are unsuited.

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
3 years ago

Treating people as undeserving supplicants rather than customers with a right to make their own minds up seems to be a symptom that the NHS is much more prone to than other healthcare systems.

Im not aware of Germany Holland or Switzerland etc managing to come up with all these myriad ways of institutionalising assisted patient mortality from the Liverpool Care Path onwards.

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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

The Liverpool care pathway was government policy, they wanted to kill the oldies to save on pensions and future medical bills.
In muchthe same way the government murdered lots of the silver tops in care homes with DNR orders imposed on them and with lashings and lashings of midazolam.

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Bobby Lobster
Bobby Lobster
3 years ago

The NHS does not listen to government, it listens to Unions. It does beg for more money on a regular basis.

The Public Sector works for itself, not the people whom it is supposed to serve, and who pay for it’s wages and more wastefully, it’s pensions.

Even Bliar could do nothing with the NHS.

De-fund the NHS, diverse or otherwise.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Bobby Lobster

plough its lands with salt.

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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago

The 21st century Doctor’s credo is ‘First do no harm – to you bank balance’.
These people will do whatever they are told to do in exchange for wads of cash, they do not give a ferk about safety, all they care about is how much extra bonus pay they can get for punting out jabs.

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago

NHS, It’s National, don’t bother drawing any other conclusions from this acronym, it’s an oxymoron.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

nOtional

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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago

A GP gets their fee for having you on their list.
They have no incentive to actually provide a service to you as they get paid whether they see you or not.
Now the GP likes patients that can be stuffed full of pharma products for which they get paid a bonus, similarly they like compliant patients who will attend the surgery and take their covid injections as commanded because the Doctor gets his bonus pay for doing this.

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JXB
JXB
3 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

The GP is a private supplier whose contract is with the NHS, not the patient. They have no contractual obligation to provide anyone with medical care.

The same is true of hospitals where the contract is between one Government department and another. There is no contractual relationship between hospitals and consumers of their services. This is why they can stick you on a waiting list until you rot and you can’t do a thing about it.

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Paul B
Paul B
3 years ago

Welcome to my world – I’ve been telling anyone who would listen how utterly incompetent and useless the NHS are for 25 years. The last 2 years have cemented this stance, I expect, for life.

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JXB
JXB
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

I worked in it in the early 1970s. It was no better then, except perhaps doctors and nurses did wash their hands.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago

France has generally behaved appallingly, lockdowns with limits on who/how anyone could go out, forms to fill in if you moved more than 1km from your house, which most in the country ignored of course. Then there was/is the prison status of its border controls. The imposition of mRNA only boosters etc etc.
But one thing its done reasonably well was continuing to provide ongoing medical support to its populace. Most doctors still see patients face to face, no real change to the process. Clinics and Hospitals have generally continued as before. There were lengthening waits for certain procedures before covid in common with just about every country’s health service, these generally have not gone up because of covid specifically.
Of course France has its fair share of controversies regarding treatments etc, but so far at least the gradual trend to lowering standards does not seem to appreciably accelerated. And the mentality of conforming to central diktats was already in place, so no change there.
The Big difference now between it and the NHS is that US Insurance companies and health practices are not allowed to operate in France, whereas the UK has opened the door which will advance a two tier system depending on ability to pay.

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JXB
JXB
3 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

‘Most doctors still see patients face to face, no real change to the process. Clinics and Hospitals have generally continued as before. ‘

And…

‘that US Insurance companies and health practices are not allowed to operate in France..’

You don’t know what you are talking about.

It may have eased of late but routine appointments with GPs, dentists, ophthalmologists, etc were not allowed. Also when personal visits resumes the number of patients was restricted because only so many were allowed in the waiting room at a time, so appointments were strung out, waiting times long. Hospitals ditto did not operate business as usual.

Over 50% of provision of health care in France is private providers at all levels. L’Assurance Maladie – the State insurance scheme – pays by reimbursement only 80% of in-patient costs, up to 70% of other costs… GP, physio, lab tests, radiology, ambulance, community nursing, dental, etc. Most French people therefore buy private Assurance Complémentaire santé to pay the difference and get enhanced benefits.

As a consequence waiting times are short, health care very good, largely because providers only get money per patient per treatment and people have choices.

i know because I was resident there for 20 years until recently.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  JXB

No JXB I don’t know what I am talking about, especially as I live in France.
50% of health providers are not employed by hospitals directly, they have a special ‘self-employed’ statue, but they are all without exception controlled by the State through support mechanisms and payment via CPAM and the complimentary insurances which themselves have to confrm to strict criteria laid down by the State.
I can only report what my wife and myself have found, living between Toulouse and Albi. Here in Tarn there has never been a time when face to face Doctor consultations were not available and we found no difference in delays, ie none. We have both had need to use specialist services in Toulouse and more locally in health clinics. Again there has been no appreciable delay over and above the ordinary and face to face consultations etc were the norm.
Perhaps we are lucky living in the South West.
Oh and it is of course possible to be admitted to a ‘private hospital’ but the service and costs are identical to those offered by the State. There is no such thing as ‘private health’ in France. That doesn’t mean that foreigners cannot use international insurance cover , but they do because they are not members of the State insurance scheme.
But as you say I don’t know what I am talking about…..

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refusenick
refusenick
3 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Fwiw, my wife is a doc here in the US and has seen her patients face to face throughout the entire Covid sh*tshow.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  refusenick

My guess is that it depends on which State you are in?

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JXB
JXB
3 years ago

When will everyone understand, reform – yet another to add to the dozens over the years – of the NHS will not work. It is structurally unsound as all large State-run collectives are.

Time for people to clean the clarts out of their eyes and face up to fact the only solution is to take away the State monopoly in medical care to allow a competitive, private market alternative to develop. People can then chose.

As for people who yap on about everyone has ‘free’ access to medical care – no they don’t, what everyone has is ‘free’ access to a very long waiting list and substandard care.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  JXB

You are free to pay for private health treatment in the UK. It sounds like you take advantage of that because you can afford it. That is fine, but without constraints it can quickly develop into something akin to the US system. Which is excellent for emergency care and ‘extensive’ treatment. Unfortunately dealing with something simple like a stich in your finger can set you back $1000 unless your well insured, but it will be dealt with quickly, as will the payment follow up.
And just because I also lived in the States ( as well as France) doesn’t mean I don’t know what I am talking about….

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acle
acle
3 years ago

I had an unavoidable appointment at the GP during the height of the booster rollout during which I had to reveal I was unvaccinated. After being stared at for what seemed like an age the (very experienced) nurse said:
’I think you’re right actually. We’re not meant to say that but I do.’

Obviously an edict has gone out with regards to vaccine harms, but I don’t know how experienced healthcare professionals are squaring their consciences with the ongoing vaccine rollout. That nurse had obviously seen and heard of damages that could only have been caused by the vaccines. Yet says nothing.

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  acle

A few days ago I had an unavoidable visit to a hospital A&E and was there for a couple of hours. The treatment received was good, and quite quick. Lots of people there for various reasons. While a couple of staff were grumpy about me not wearing a nappy, the assistant and the doctor who did the real work did not. No mention of Covid-19 at all from them.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago

“A pensioner’s family are furious after he was left lying on the pavement in excruciating pain for more than 10 hours while waiting for an ambulance. 
Emlyn Roberts, 69, had tripped and broken his hip and back while walking in the town centre of Colwyn Bay, North Wales, at approximately 12.30pm on March 29. 
Members of the public, who found Mr Roberts ‘moaning in agony’ and complaining of pain in his hip, immediately phoned for an ambulance but were told to expect delays.”

“One woman who phoned for an ambulance after her 86-year-old neighbour collapsed claims she was told her ambulance could take 20 hours.
Another woman who found herself lying on her bathroom floor in a pool of blood claims she was told she would have to wait 12 hours.
NHS England told MailOnline today that the service is struggling to cope after the number of staff off sick due to Covid has doubled in the past three weeks – while there are a ‘high number’ of patients in hospital.”

Not struggling to produce Look Her/Him In Their Eyes posters, though!
Not struggling to arrange tests and vaccines for a pandemic that never was.
And plenty of time to bounce about making TikTok dance videos.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10672569/Pensioner-69-left-moaning-agony-10-HOUR-wait-ambulance-tripping-pavement.html

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simonwebb30
simonwebb30
3 years ago

Another example is Grenfell, the root cause being the Blair government privatising building approvals. The inquiry is only now getting to their role. They are masters at covering up their own incompetence. Set up a public inquiry, design it to run for years and only expose the cause when everyone has moved on. Watch this space with the Covid one.

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ttenl
ttenl
3 years ago
Reply to  simonwebb30

Government only building control has exactly the same problem as government only NHS and other public sector bodies. A monopoly with no obligation to provide a good service or even any service at all. No incentive to drive down prices. Bit like planners are now. Private building control is one of the best things to happen in the construction industry. No way the public sector could even cope with the demand never mind provide an a decent service.

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  simonwebb30

No doubt the fact that the inquiry about Grenfell has been suspended for a couple of years so far, on account of the current troubles, is useful to some. However, not for those who are stuck in places that are impossible to sell at present.

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Dave
Dave
3 years ago

One other factor which doesn’t get a mention in Shaw’s article is the role of the unions and politicians in preventing effective reform of the NHS.
What is needed is for all stakeholders and yes, that includes industry and us poor buggers who are expected to pay for it, to sit down with a blank sheet of paper and work out what 21st century healthcare delivery looks like. However, any proposal to this effect is met with shrieks of “They’re privatising OUR NHS!” and it becomes career suicide for any politician endorsing the approach.
The NHS will never be effectively reformed until all options are on the table

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marebobowl
marebobowl
3 years ago

I worked for the nhs for a few years in Exeter, Devon. When I blew the whistle on the doctor who bullied our entire staff, I became public enemy #1 and was then coerced to follow procedures no one else was expected to follow, like frequent, once a month one on one meetings with my manager. My work was carefully monitored, hoping I would make a mistake etc etc. the nhs is a sick culture/environment for both employees and patients. Not getting any better.

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johnbuk
johnbuk
3 years ago

Same issue as with Climate Change. No dissenting opinion allowed, any scientists doing so are got rid of, called “deniers”. The “science is settled”. Funding goes to those toeing the line, media goes along with it also getting extra funding for “environmental” reporting. In the meantime the tax payer gets screwed
The main political parties are looking like each other day by day, personally I think the time has come to think about looking at the alternatives like Reform etc.
Vote the same, expect the same.

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