Green levies helping to support supposed cheap wind and solar power have soared in Labour’s Budget and will quickly add many hundreds of pounds to household electricity bills. This shock news is to be found in the details released by the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR). Needless to say, no mention was made of the sudden subsidy spike in the Chancellor’s Budget Statement to Parliament. But the detailed figures reveal that the levies are set to confiscate £16 billion a year from consumers from next year. This is equivalent to nearly £600 a household, but the situation is only likely to get much worse with the Mad Miliband committed to a 95% renewable grid within six years.
The problems don’t stop there. A renewable grid based on breezes and sun beams needs back-up when Mother Nature fails to co-operate. Earlier this week, the wind stopped blowing for a couple of days and minimal power was obtained from this source. The pretence that there is any realistic back up other than a secondary gas-based system is fading fast. Fintan Slye, the head of the operation controlling electricity supply into the grid, recently noted: “There will continue to be a significant amount of power plants in reserve for the cold, dull, windless weeks of winter, but they will run for limited periods.” To date we have yet to have sight of an official estimate of what all this might cost.
In the meantime, and it seems just for starters, British consumers have £16 billion to find every year, as the graph below compiled by Andrew Montford from Net Zero Watch shows.
Montford shows that the estimated cost of green levies (mostly renewables) has shot up in the last 18 months with estimates rising between 20% and 120%. In its report, the OBR blames the jump on the Contracts for Difference (CfD) scheme that compensates suppliers for low electricity prices but claws back money when rates rise above a certain level. Loosely-worded contracts seem to mean that money only flows one way into the pockets of the subsidy-hunting turbine owners. Montford notes that the OBR is “no longer pretending” that CfD contracts will be paying back to consumers “in the foreseeable future”.
The figures involved are staggering. Montford explains that 18 months ago the OBR was predicting that CfDs would save consumers nearly £10 billion between 2023-24 and 2028-29. However, six months ago, “they decided it would actually ‘cost’ us £9 billion. And today they have announced that it will cost us £12 billion”, he added. Faced with these figures, the general public may recall that one of the first actions of the incoming Labour Government was to abolish an annual winter fuel allowance for older people, saving just £1.5 billion. Some might observe that such a sum is little more than a rounding error in the fantasy world of green economics and subsidies.
The environmental levies cover a variety of green rackets from paying suppliers to produce uneconomic and environmentally unfriendly energy, to persuading consumers to buy inferior technologies. The investigative journalist Paul Homewood has been digging into the subsidy figures for years amid promises from politicians that “rapidly falling” wind power costs would bring bills tumbling down. “Now we know that was always a lie,” observed Homewood last year.
In fact, Homewood suggests, an even greater burden is being placed on U.K. electricity consumers. The feed-in tariff scheme that pays consumers for electricity generated from solar panels has been excluded by the OBR. Although the scheme is no longer open to new applicants, it is yet another subsidy and still costs almost £2 billion a year. The renewable heat incentive is another £1 billion plus boondoggle ignored by the OBR, while the climate change levy, added to business costs, chips in another £2 billion.
All in all, Homewood estimated last year that Net Zero taxes and levies were set to cost the British consumers almost £100 billion over the next six years. The Labour Budget just put that up by at least £25 billion. The Net Zero black hole gets bigger by the day.
Chris Morrison is the Daily Sceptic’s Environmental Editor.
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China
The triumph of China’s Covid spin offers a terrifying glimpse of the West’s future
Our singular failure to come up with an alternative to draconian lockdowns will have world-transforming consequences
SHERELLE JACOBS
DAILY TELEGRAPH COLUMNIST
22 October 2020 • 6:00am
Sherelle Jacobs
If the prospect of a winter lockdown is nourishing your inner nihilist, I recommend bingeing on the latest Chinese blockbusters. Watching the films that have led Chinese studios to eclipse Hollywood sales for the first time in history is like staring into the Western abyss. Take The Wandering Earth – a sci-fi trending on Netflix about a mission to move our planet to a new galaxy after a spike in Jupiter’s gravity. It is Star Wars scrubbed of its limitless human progress and frontier spirit. In the peculiarly cyclical story – about protecting and reviving humanity on Earth rather than exploring the universe – the European linear conception of time is obsolete. (Unsurprising? Mandarin has neither a past or future tense, nor China a creation myth.)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/10/22/triumph-chinas-covid-spin-offers-terrifying-glimpse-wests-future/#comment
I think China is creepy. Like an alien world. Taiwan and Hong Kong seem much more normal. God help us if China becomes the world’s superpower. This can never be allowed to happen.
“This can never be allowed to happen”
Oops, too late!
It will be short lived. China lacks a consistent population surplus, something every global superpower needs.
Well, I suppose that just leaves some African country as the next superpower then.
Seems implausible…..
“China lacks a consistent population surplus.”
What does that mean? I don’t understand your point.
Chinese are liars
They are not alone.
And there’s still pockets of extreme poverty in China. They’re actually a tinder box waiting to explode.
It’s going to happen. Trump is the stopgap. The UK seems to be fully signed up, Huawei notwithstanding,as is Australia and Canada. This is just the beginning..
If we finally rid ourselves of the LibLabConSNP liars we can take back our country from the criminals in Parliament NHS the Banksters etc
Let’s get on with it.
No mention of China, so you are not from 77 Brigade.
If 77 brigade was pure PR it would still operate effectively as divisive doubt and suspicion.
I have noticed more trolling so I expect there are ongoing experiments of different tacks against different profiles – for the machine seeks above all else to neutralise the designated threat’ or potential threat or potential infection vector for future threat.
China is already a world superpower. However, it isn’t China that is causing financial armageddon, destroying health services and bringing martial law to a place near you.
It may be said that extremely disproportionate wealth operates as leverage in many ways that run beneath the surface as black economy, and as networks of influence that operate through proxies or fronts, or front of fronts of fronts. the ability to set a false front and hide the trail is part of Corporate survival strategy. It is also one with Military and Intelligence operations. In fact none of the borders and lines of the surface world mean a lot to the correspondences and communications running beneath.
Brilliant Speech – everything you would want to say
“Herd stupidity!” Desmond Swayne calls out coronavirus fearmongering
Conservative MP Desmond Swayne gives a passionate speech in the House of Commons on fearmongering around the coronavirus pandemic and subsequent lockdowns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl3d8DZwQlo&list=WL&index=68
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Restaurant owner punished for opening door on a hot day speaks out on ‘Tucker’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paqGbcVtYIk
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Melbourne’s ‘Dan Andrews apologist’ Lord Mayor must be voted out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIgQuHG9zq0
Sky News host Alan Jones says Victorians have a chance to vote out Melbourne’s Lord Mayor Sally Capp, a “Dan Andrews apologist” who pretends to be independent.
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Interesting about that restaurant, because we’re exhorted to open as many doors and windows as possible at work, since apparently ‘maintaining air circulation’ will make sure the wind blows the evil spirits out of the room.
I agree. Next time you go shopping ( I avoid unless essential) try and find as many items as you can that dont say made in china..good luck with that.even eg clothes apparently from another country check the label and its origin. Its shocking. I have pointed this out to several people and their answer ” I never noticed”.I have noticed it creeping in for years. Start your notice yourself. I try to buy British when I can .can british industry even provide goods anymore?the government now seem hellbent on msking sure they never can again..
meanwhile 9 Koreans died from the flu jab this week
https://strangesounds.org/2020/10/vaccine-death-south-korea-video.html
and the poor Brazilian doctor volnteer died in the vaccine trial. They clai he was part of the placebo but surely that information cannot be released while the trial is ongoing. Anyway the control group received the meningitis jab. Maybe he died form that?
and one last query on the ONS paying people to get repeat tests. £50 for the first test and £25 for each subsequent test. The tests are every week for 4 weeks then every month for 11 months which shows how long this will go on for. My question is if someone tests positive the first week and then the 2nd, do they count as one positive case or two?? Does anyone know?
2nd
Baa
Now, now, no sheeple allowed here!
Hang in there guys
Everyone I know is ignoring the lockdown now
I certainly am today. Off to England, breaking out of Gulag Cymru.
I’m breaking out this afternoon, and again tomorrow.
And I am breaking in!
Let’s high five as we cross the border.
Might be useful to post if you get any intel on what eyes are watching what roads (if any).
Just remember, don’t answer if anybody says ‘good luck!’
Oh how I wish I could say the same, I feel like a lone voice among my friends.
You aren’t alone here!
But virtually all the pro-mask crowd now ignore any form of (anti)social distancing…
Wish I could say the same.
Add one more. Yours truly.
How many of us have lost friends from this? I know I have. I have found the way to build those friendships back up…when talking to people look for common ground. The common ground that every person in this country has at the moment is that we all think the government is useless.
Try it, it works. My neighbour is now talking to me again!
Havent lost any friends but there is one which I am avoiding contact with because she is pro-lockdown and her sister is a nurse who fuels this. We get close to arguments in messages. Funny thing is she has double standards by breaking the ‘rules’ to suit herself. Saddened that my Mother in law is also sucked in by all this and is afraid to have us visit her, yet on the other hand worries about her grandchildren forgetting who she is! I have no patience for that!
Nurses and doctors in favour of lockdowns are like teachers not wanting to go back to the classroom.
They need to shut up and go and do their jobs. And if they don’t want to, they can quit. But enough of wanting the salary for no work.
When your friend’s sister signed up for being a nurse, presumably she was aware that she may need to come into contact with people who have infectious diseases?
A nurse I know is the worst of the lot. In an utter panic about it all, constantly shouting about evil people who don’t wear masks and have the nerve to go to the pub – in a pandemic! She even puts a mask on her 3 yo when walking outdoors in the middle of nowhere… Needless to say he is now petrified of leaving the house in case he gets ill.
She needs locked up for masking a 3 year old!!!
You should take a look at this from the Monkey World web site:
Face Coverings. It is mandatory for all visitors aged 3 years old and over to wear a face mask / covering/ visor when visiting Monkey World, at all times apart from when seated in designated catering seating / picnic areas. Please see our Face Covering Policy for more information and what to do if you’re medically exempt.
If you go to the face covering rules page on their web site there is all the information about which people are exempt and what to do if it applies to you.
Thought children under 11 were exempt?
Not at Monkey World.
It’s called Monkey World for a reason!
Lol.
The monkeys no doubt have more intelligence than the management of the place!
Monkeys indeed.
It’s easy, don’t ever go to Monkey World.
Maskholes want to cause brain damage to children:
https://www.sott.net/article/442455-German-Neurologist-Warns-Against-Wearing-Facemasks-Oxygen-Deprivation-Causes-Permanent-Neurological-Damage
Is she actually a nurse?
My Aunt is a nurse (in her 60’s), and she is thankfully sane. Thinks it’s all a lot of nonsense!
Which doesn’t say a lot about the education level of nurses.
A 3 yo is not going to develop a fully functioning immune system by putting a mask on him and protecting him from every virus.
It’s the use of antibiotics on small children and overcleanliness that’s led to so many with allergies.
“Which doesn’t say a lot about the education level of nurses.”
I take exception to that statement fellah….
Mr brother in law’s sister is a cardiologist. (That’s a specialist heart nurse). She has several medical qualifications.
“Mr brother in law’s sister is a cardiologist. (That’s a specialist heart nurse).”
A cardiologist is a physician who specialises in diseases of the heart. Bloody hell, it’s getting more like Twitter around here these days……
With nurses like her, who would want to use the NHS, even if you could.
I’ve concluded that anyone in favour of lockdown is cruel and heartless with scant regard or life and well being.
Or just monumentally selfish.
Which nurses do you know that aren’t at work? How is it like the teaching profession? We’ve been at work for the duration. Stop talking out your arse you ignorant tit.
Now now. I know for a fact that large parts of Wythenshawe Hospital were closed for weeks and staff sent home. There was a bit of an uproar because management asked staff to use some of their leave in lieu of the time they were off work…..
Happened to the wife’s cousin’s daughter (is that 2nd cousin? cousin twice removed?) who is a nurse in a big hospital.
She’s been told over the past 7 months to take a 4 grade pay cut or be sent home on zero pay with her hours cut to zero leading to being laid off, was told that the hospital would not sign the furlough letter so she could claim under that scheme (would look bad on the hospital), sat at home for weeks as no work for them to do and management could not justify the staffing levels, had her hours cut to only a few shifts a week, been told her holiday entitlement was being used up when she was sitting at home and has been told not to speak to anyone about this treatment under veiled threats – but it slips out when they all sit having a family afternoon tea and gossip.
Is there any way she could be persuaded to speak out, anonymously of course, the way that ‘Jessica’ did on here a week or so ago?
Asked her, no chance.
Totally shit scared of reprisals.
A four grade pay cut? I assume she is a registered nurse? So she was a Band 8 was she? A Matron? Being asked to be paid as a band 5 or a staff nurse? I think you’re talking nonsense. If any of what you’re saying is accurate then the ‘nurse’ you’re talking about is bank staff or agency not a permanent member of staff on a substantive contract. So it follows that there was no work for her during lockdown, this is the price paid for not commiting to a permanent post,working ad hoc. So your statement is exaggerated for effect. No substantive employee has been laid off or furloughed or made to take leave. This is not possible, sitting around maybe but not that. Plenty of middle aged fatties removed to offices away from patients too but not at home unless living with an immunosuppressed family member, and they had to go off unpaid.
But the NHS was being over run wasn’t it?
All staff exhausted?
All reserves called in?
Armageddon?
NHS on the brink?
Everyone working 24 hrs a day 7 days week?
All beds full?
Patients dropping dead in the corridors?
And do one etc etc etc
So if it was this bad why were the non-substantive staff and contractors not working flat out?
What I have said about the wife’s relative was actually reported in the local newspaper as happening in Bristol and the nationwide mSM buried it.
So please – no more “we were being over run” stories if only core staff were required to keep it all going.
Who said ‘we were being over run’? Did I? Personally my colleagues and I have been working normally hard throughout and in full PPE. Those in OP departments were redeployed to the wards, some to ITU and to covid wards etc. I think they worked pretty hard out of their usual specialism. This is why no bank staff were needed or overpaid agency nurses. I personally have worked flat out as I always do, full time, plus my second job.
And yes, there will be patients on corridors and in store cupboards and old folk waiting six hours in an ambulance being used as a ‘bed’ before they even get reviewed and temporary wards being opened up overnight because there always is, every year. But you will continue to sit comfortably on your keyboard warrior bottom telling me how it is because your cousins, uncles, niece told you so.
I’ve a friend in the USA who is a nurse and she told me how bad it was in the spring. She usually teaches students but was needed to nurse patients then. Things returned to normal in summer.
And we don’t care about bank staff losing work in the middle of this crisis?
Interesting that you admitted that the ones left are ‘sitting around’. What does that mean for other life-threatening conditions? The all cause excess death data may begin to answer that question.
Not blaming you as nurses but it is wrong for the rest of the NHS to shut down for one, unexceptional, pathogen.
I say there’s a whole bunch of NHS technicians that need to go to jail.
Building the “coronahoax” charge sheet: reckoning culpability for the deliberate inflation of Covid-19 death
The application of double standards is quite eye-watering sometimes. The “holier-than-thou” attitude based solely (as far as I can see) on regurgitating whatever they’ve just heard on the news, usually followed with a complete disregard for any rule that doesn’t suit at that particular time. It’s the mindlessness of it that gets to me – I used to call it lazy thinking, but I can’t see any evidence of any thinking at all…
I can never understand the ‘if it saves just one life mentality’. Why, in these peoples log jammed minds, do ‘covid deaths’ trump every other death given that cancer kills 400+ every day in the UK?…..
These people think that they own the moral high ground with this absurd view when in fact they infest a cerebral wasteland of ill informed stupidity
‘they infest … stupidity’
Marvellous expression, T. Prince!
“Funny thing is she has double standards by breaking the ‘rules’ to suit herself.”
I noticed this early on. My sister-in-law was perfectly happy to have me expose myself to the virus to come and get her at a crowded airport after two transfers to two other crowded airports—in order to spare her son and his young children from “danger.” So, how does that work again? I am 73 . . . I am the one in a vulnerable group. I stated this a couple of times but she ignored it.
I see this over and over again People twisting themselves into knots to “shield” the **least vulnerable** while not giving a shite about exposing the actual vulnerable—if the latter is more convenient to someone or the person jsut refuses to “get” that kiddies are not in danger.
This is of course within the context that the whole freakout about transmission of the virus is hugely exaggerated.
I’ve had to change subjects with conversations with certain friends, as it’s started getting heated. I tend to avoid lengthy conversations with them now. It infuriates me that they won’t even consider they’re is an alternative to all of the restrictions. They think I’m some conspiracy theorist who ignores the “facts” they’ve heard on the BBC. They’re surprised I don’t agree to “following the science” as I’ve got a PhD in physics. There isn’t a real scientist I know who agrees to the government’s “the science”. We tend to agree that SAGE have done more damage to science then the Catholic church.
Remember it’s a cult. They will go to their graves believing
As with all cults friends and families try to save them, but it never works
Sad to say but don’t waste any more of your time, leave them to their fate
I really don’t think all non-sceptics are in a cult. Some are just going along with it for a quiet life, or somewhat unquestioning or gullible. They will come over to our side.
I think of it as being like the wars of religion. A handful of people had very strong convictions in favour of protestantism or catholicism and sometimes ended up dying for them, but the vast majority of people were happy to pretend to subscribe to whichever side they needed in order to avoid being burned at the stake. It’s not so much unthinking as cynical, and it does go some way to explaining the studies which have shown a large disjunct between what people claim to believe about the Government’s diktats and what they actually do in practice.
Bit harsh on the Catholic Church, which invented the university and has a great history of supporting astronomy. Copernicus, Mendel and Lemaitre were all in holy orders, so I would suggest that its track record is head and shoulders above SAGE.
Also has the biggest astronomy library in the world amd continues to be a leader in it.
They are experts in Saturn.
No, it is spelt ‘Satan’.
Satan is an expert on lockdowns, that’s for sure.
Definitely harsh on the Catholic church.
Didn’t they invent the lockdown with Galileo?
True story. When I was at university in Manchester in the 1980s (studlying chemistry) the second placed physics student in his year of around 150 students was, like me, a Roman Catholic.
The Church doesn’t seem to have hurt him, but I wouldn’t accuse you of religious prejudice Mr Grubster.
My wife basically has to keep me away from any social interaction. I have stopped holding my mouth shut about this a while ago and although I do it a calm, fact based respectful manner people look at me like I just told them that the Earth is flat. I guess I just don’t have any more patience with idiots, people who are awake to this madness have mostly been there either from the beginning or at least couple of months, for the other there is no hope.
I’m with you!
Ditto
It bothers me that so few will reply to information I send. That applies to ordinary people, to FRSs and former University Professors.
Same here. A part of me hopes Christmas is “cancelled” so I don’t have to endure the ridiculous Covid chat from the in-laws!
A good approach.
There are some people I’ve cut ties with whom I cannot forgive as they have been so complicit in this – especially educated, “intelligent”, politically aware people who have refused to engage with arguments or shown themselves to be self interested or both. Some have blanked me as soon as I have expressed sceptic views, without engaging. Them I cannot forgive either. That’s just rude.
Others I have tried not to burn bridges as I regard them more as victims.
My mum was a Boris fan just two or so months ago. She totally bought into the covid lie. She now entertains the idea of the great reset and she knows regardless something is very wrong i.e. that the case and death figures do not match the tactics. I have a couple of friends like this also. Cutting ties with friends and family is something I try not to do because there is always time for them to change their minds.. plus a few months ago it would have meant no friends or family, no real contact with human beings at all.
Anyone who admires Bozo Johnson needs psychiatric care and are similar to those who thought that Hitler was misinterpreted take Blair for example a narcissist
I sort of lost a friend when I wrote on FB that flu/pneumonia deaths exceeded covid for around 14 weeks. My friend wrote I was the reason he hated FB. I countered with “Facts?”. He came back with a link to a factchecker called Fullfact.org. I then consulted with a few folk on here who gave me enough ammunition to go back with a suitable reply. Soon after my friend deactivated his FB account. Foolfuckt?
Well, I am not surprised.
The people who think you should be remorselessly obeying government, as useless as it is, won’t have your back in a spot. Find people who will. Let the dead bury the dead.
Action to end the interminable unlawful lockdown
Modern diagnostics
NHS technicians can’t find their own anus with both hands, so this cartoon is relatively positive.
Covid-19 is not flu
The picture is not of Nero. It is of Xerxes’ soldiers whipping the Hellespont.
Well spotted. No Roman soldier worth his salarium would be seen dressed as a Persian.
Plus would not have worn a soft cap and a curly beard. My history buff inside was screaming but I’m glad there are other geeks here besides me
Wasn’t it Caligula who got his army to fight Neptune, not Nero?
Yes – first thing I noticed. We had it in Herodotus in the original Greek at school. I was crap at Greek but that story stuck in my mind.
The great lockdown of Wales is to arrive on Friday
I have a cunning plan to win back our freedom and save the economy
South Wales Police are currently issuing one 30 quid covid fixed penalty ticket a month
The population of South Wales is 299,229
That is .00000334192% of a ticket per person per day
If they crowd fund to pay the fine(s) at current rates it will cost each of them 0.0001002576 pence per day
Although I don’t agree with paying, it is a small price price to pay for a get out of jail free card
Yes 0.0001002576 pence per day to have your freedom back and save the economy
Just think of it as a covid tax
All we need now is a volunteer
I’ll pay monthly by direct debit
Don’t pay: they will never collect.
Don’t give the manic obsessive lunatics running the Government (asylum) any more idea’s, ” covid tax “, they will bloody do it ! . The better idea would be do NOT pay any fine’s, mass non payment would screw that up.
This covid19 is Johnson’s polltax moment
Check out:
https://www.rebelnews.com/fight_the_fines_uk
Fight The Fines UK
Every day, ordinary Brits being fined, arrested and even assaulted by police for increasingly bizarre and unreasonable pandemic lockdown rules. We’re hiring a lawyer to fight back!
They even take PayPal.
I’ve just set up a monthly direct debit with the Fight the Fines UK organisers.
I hope those 4 Notts lads who got £10,000 each for hosting a party manage to get help from them.
Oooh!! 10k. Don’t pay, they will never enforce that
The Fight the Fines organisation is to support people to access legal help to avoid the fines. Fines will be fought, not paid.
When this is over We need political reform to guarantee our rights sovereignty and importantly to control our government and stop overeach
I have no words, otherwise I would be too unkind, but the strongest objection obviously has to be indicated.
Action to end the interminable unlawful lockdown
This link was posted yesterday, but it is worth repeating here:
https://www.rebelnews.com/fight_the_fines_uk
Spread the word! Fight the fines!
All of Stacey Rudin’s articles are terrific.
You can find them at medium or AIER.
Day whatever. Is the pig dictator still stalking the land?
Yes and haven’t you heard? Each family must now hand over 50% of their corn yield to feed NHS workers and on reaching 16 your first born son will be taken away to work in the vaccine factories.
An offer of a job, fantastic, I’ll get him out of school now
Is he going to demand a shag with every maiden before her wedding day? How the fuck is he leader?
Ius primi porci.
19th October looks high for the same reason that the 12th and 5th October look high. It’s a Monday.
Interesting article from the 2018/19 about problems with Facebook “fact-checking” on BBC referring to article in the Guardian. This was 2 years before coronamania when these 2 media became prolockdown propaganda outlets.
-https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47098021
-https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/dec/13/they-dont-care-facebook-fact-checking-in-disarray-as-journalists-push-to-cut-ties
We are choosing economic destruction and loss of liberty in order to increase our chances of remaining alive this year from 99.95% to 99.96%.
To quote Lord Sumption, ‘People are not obeying the rules, and why on earth should they’.
Many on here are disobeying. So far I’m still within the law but it won’t take much. Judging by the visitors my neighbours in tier 2 are getting, they are disobeying frequently. More power to them.
The trouble is how do we regain the social contract and trust in government, is it broken forever?
The government of the UK requires the consent of the governed under UK Common Law. If that is declining then the government is losing its legitimacy and the only route to recovery, as far as I can see, is the renewal of that consent through some sort of democratic process. I am not a constitutional lawyer so disclaimers apply. Perhaps someone can help us out?
As I have mentioned before ,the correspondent from the Netherlands on UK Column is absolutely brilliant on Common Law go to UK column for his links on this.
Alex Thompson on UKColumn recommended those interested in Common Law to visit WE-THE-PEOPLE.co.uk
All of our institutions have been compromised by taking part in the charade.
It is very likely there will be a reset of some sort – but a financial one, not that the WEF wants – and that most of our current structures will fall with the end of the current debt-based financial paradigm.
The post-1945 world is finished.
I agree. If collapse of the current financial system is not the aim of the current policies, it will definitely be a side effect.
Trust in the current crop of MPs has gone and cannot really be restored. It would take public self-immolation by all of them to convince me of their contrition.
Is it broken forever ? I’d say yes it is! Their actions during this man made scamdemic have shown what shallow arrogant conmen they really are.
I didn’t follow the rules in the beginning so I’m certainly not now!.
Sorry I don’t really understand all those numbers but clearly you don’t care enough about grannies and should be ashamed.
Ah, I think you have found the Achilles heel. (OK, OK, I’m going).
My Granny was given Vioxx for arthritis and promptly developed heart failure. ( I was given Vioxx for Lyme disease about the same time but as it had no benefit I didn’t take it for more than a few days)
Merck pharmaceuticals, who released Vioxx about 20 years ago, was sued for releasing a drug they knew knocked down even young people with heart failure.
I thought HCQ was good for Lyme disease.
Unfortunately, HCQ is cheap …..
You only need to read the comments on the Western Mail site to realise that some Pembrokeshire people would kill your granny, and probably their oen, if they thought it would help save their sordid, gutless, nauseating little selves from this almost entirely imaginary threat.
Sorry, should read Western Telegraph. The Mail is for zombies Wales-wide, the Telegraph just for the local coven.
Can I just confirm your article “Breathing is Dangerous”, oxygen is a highly corrosive element and damages the lungs with every breath. Therefore oxygen along with carbon dioxide should be removed from the atmosphere.
I had the misfortune to catch a little of some BBC program, it got global warming and the killer disease in. Pathetic.
Don’t forget the incredibly hazardous dihydrogen monoxide.
Kills hundreds of thousands every year it does!
About 600 people a year in Britain alone.
Eye-watering, ain’t it!
Will covid-19 vaccines save lives? Current trials aren’t designed to tell usBMJ 2020; 371 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.m4037 (Published 21 October 2020)
Cite this as: BMJ 2020;371:m4037
Linked EditorialCovid-19 vaccine trial protocols released
Read our latest coverage of the coronavirus outbreak
I don’t think governments care whether they will save lives
It’s purely about controlling us. They don’t give a damn about our lives or our health.
No, I don’t either but an academic publication in a major journal should be valuable.
It doesn’t need to. The lockdown cultists just need to believe it will. They don’t do facts.
Wear Your Mask
Submit To Control
Obey Big Brother
Dump Your Mask
Take Back Control
Regain Your Freedom
WE-THE-PEOPLE.CO.UK
We need a written constitution and no more of the Royalty bs also consign the 18th class system to the bin of history where it belongs
BMJ Rapid Response: Dr Noel Thomas challenges barrister Daniel Sokol over informed vaccine consent:-
Re: New guidance from the GMC: what constitutes meaningful dialogue?Re: New guidance from the GMC: what constitutes meaningful dialogue? Daniel Sokol. 371:doi 10.1136/bmj.m3933
Dear Editor,
Daniel Sokol writes, “As far as I know, there is no legal authority for the proposition that doctors should disclose a risk that is negligible and immaterial, even if serious harm could result if it eventuates.”
Will Sokol please explain how one can asses that a risk is negligible and immaterial, if it can also cause serious harm?
Legal precedent exists for a surgeon being judged culpable because he did not discuss, pre operatively, a risk accepted as serious, albeit in only about one in a thousand instances.
Damages of £4.4 million were awarded in that case. (1)
It is no secret that we have a dysfunctional system of informed consent to vaccination in the UK. No one has dissented, when this has been pointed out many times in recent years. (2)
One example is the warning in the Bexsero vaccine Patient Information Leaflet that Kawasaki disease may follow the vaccine, in “ up to one in a thousand people .” (3)
In the first year of a child’s life this implies a cumulative risk of one in three hundred and thirty three. (4)
Anecdotal accounts suggest that this information is not usually discussed with parents, before their child is vaccinated. Nor, anecdotally, do the parents of children with Kawasaki disease always have this association discussed with them, if hospital admission is necessary.
These are not rare and unusual problems that provide the material of footnotes and small print.
They are everyday areas of clinical practice, where honest discussion and communication of risk is a frequent duty for most doctors.
Further clarification of the GMC advice, and its relevance to vaccination, is surely necessary?
1. https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2018/164.html
2. https://www.bmj.com/content/367/bmj.l6926/rr-7
3. https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/files/pil.5168.pdf
4. https://www.bmj.com/content/367/bmj.l6447/rr-2
I wrote to the GMC about mandatory vaccinations and this is what I got back. Somewhat equivocal:
Dear Mr XXXXXX
Thank you for your email about mandatory vaccinations for coronavirus.
I thought it might help to start by clarifying that we are able to advise on our expectations of doctors in relation to our guidance, but not on government policy. Whilst we can’t tell doctors what to do in a particular situation, we can advise on the principles in our guidance which might be relevant in helping them decide how to proceed.
Our guidance
In our core guidance, Good medical practice we are clear that patients must be able to trust doctors with their lives and their health and respect patient’s rights to reach decisions with doctors about their care and their treatment (see Good medical practice, duties of a doctor).
In our Consent guidance, in our paragraphs under the subheading, ‘Ensuring that decisions are voluntary’, we say that patients must not be put under pressure by employers, relatives or others to accept a particular investigation or treatment (paragraph 41).
We also say that doctors must respect a patient’s decision to refuse an investigation or treatment even if they think it is wrong or irrational. If the doctor is concerned about the consequences of the patient’s decision, they should explain and clearly outline this to the patient. However, we are also clear that the doctor should not put any pressure on the patient to accept the advice (paragraph 43).
I hope this is helpful in setting out our expectations of doctors in this area.
Kind regards
XXXXXXXX
Policy Officer
General Medical Council
I no longer trust our NHS or my GP with my health. That trust has long dissipated.
Stimulated by Victoria and others here, I asked for the hazard sheet or package insert for my shingles vaccination (Zostavax) this week (only on offer to the over 70’s,’ because it’s expensive’ according to nurse. I’ve actually had wild virus chickenpox as a child but didn’t think it mattered). Produced a copy for me without difficulty, although nurse told me only had one copy per box of 30. So then I asked for same for flu vaccine received previous week, again produced one without difficulty. Nurse commented that nobody usually asked, although for children’s meningitis vaccinations they get supplied with enough copies per box to hand out one per dose. I’ve never been offered one for 2 previous flu jabs. They’re both the usual sort of medicines leaflet, similar to a surveyor’s report on a house, you’d never buy it if you were totally risk averse. Flu lists the 2 Type A, one Type B strains included this year. As I’ve never had flu in my life and never knew anyone who did in 1957-8 or 1968-9, nor had any reaction to vaccination other than transient upper arm soreness, I’m not that bothered if I have it or don’t. Decided to do it this year in case of Covid, although recently seems as if you get that in preference to flu and pneumonia? Anyway, the flu leaflet does specifically say that ‘The vaccine will not protect you against the common cold, even though some of the symptoms are similar to flu.’ Similarly, exposure to corona viruses doesn’t protect you against flu viruses.
So my question is – why are hospital admissions for flu (and pneumonia) right down, and CV19 prevails over them? And if CV19 is only one of many viruses that can give rise to pneumonia (congestion of lungs with fluid), is there a body of knowledge about the annual incidence of prevailing viruses causing pneumonia in previous years? Just as WHO obviously knows which are prevalent flu viruses in each hemisphere annually? Are all patients admitted with respiratory illness tested for all the prevalent viruses, flu and corona, before diagnosing CV19 as the cause of their breathing problems? Not sure if it matters, really, as presumably there’s always prevalent strains of flu and CV and HRV etc in any one winter – but is the treatment the same for all respiratory conditions, more or less? So many questions, I realise I could go to Google Scholar, but not being a medic, it’s hard to know where to begin looking.
The GP whom I saw on Tuesday did exactly as advised in Good Medical Practice; while treating a small benign skin lesion, he asked if I would like to have the flu vaccine as well, to save time.
After a brief discussion I declined and he was entirely in agreement,emphasising that it is entirely voluntary and he knew of many valid reasons why some people refuse.
My bare face was accepted too; no hostility at all.
This looks pretty much OK – correct advice but is it the practice? Obviously not often enough.
It looks OK but what they DIDN’T say was that, given this is their policy, it meant that they would NOT support mandatory vaccination. So they have left themselves wiggle room.
Anyway, now the law has changed they can get more or less anyone to give vaccinations so even if doctors refuse they can get someone else to do it
That is an important point (though I guess mostly vaccines were delivered by nurses). However, the government should still be bound I should imagine by the Montgomery ruling.
I think perhaps the GMC is not in a position to give an undertaking on mandates – but I think Hancock and Simon Stevens who would love mandates will not get them for reasons of greater government liability for injury.
All sounds nice, but I do not trust doctors or the NHS to be concerned about my well being. I intend to do my best to have my current location disappear from their records.
Van Morrison (for tis he) tweeted that the Northern Ireland executive has published its scientific evidence for lockdown. This government document, produced by ‘experts’ includes the word ‘anectodoatal’. Boy, are they clever…
https://twitter.com/vanmorrison/status/1318906142987255810
Amazing how much of it says “low impact”.
Looking at their references all they refer to is UK Government links – no science, no independent research, nothing.
It’s all bollocks.
“It’s. All. Bollocks.” You are the government’s mystery three word slogan writer, and I claim my five pounds!
“This government document, produced by ‘experts’ includes the word ‘anectodoatal’.”
That is probably Ulster Scots
Nah – Aztec – rhymes with Quetzalcoatl
You could have finished with “I’ll get my coatl then”.
Congrats to Toby and crew. The updates are getting stronger by the day, great work!
Theme tune suggestion.The late, great Richie Havens cover of Motherless Child at Woodstock. Freedom! Worth staying in for the last verse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwXtYEtngpA
The fact that there can be so much discussion of the epidemiological minutiae shows this whole situation up for what it is.
If there were really some awful disease going around which would justify the extreme measures taken, then there would be no such discussion. It would be bleeding obvious what was going on.
Furthermore, the very fact that these measures – distancing, lockdowns, masking – are being mandated by government is very telling. People want to live, we have honed our survival instincts over millions of years. If there really were a dangerous panic, then people wouldn’t need to be told what to do.
It’s all one big charade.
Exactly my thought when the plebs say “You’re not a medical expert…”
My response to this sort of objection is:
“I’m not an aeronautical engineer either, but I know a jumbo jet when I see one”.
Don’t need to be a farmer to recognise bullshit
It’s a “kill the messenger” gambit. But it’s not about me, it’s about the facts.
Weathermen … Morituri … Takes me back.
Thanks Johnson.
This was the best ever comment on LS :
“if there was a real pandemic, the government and the media would do everything to calm us down”
Excellent point.
Yes. One of the old apocalyptic writers, John Wyndham I think, wrote something like ‘the time to be worried is when the newspapers print only GOOD news.’
All these measures…what we used to refer to as “rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic”
Excellent points!
I genuinely think anyone of average intelligence can be an epidemiologist and make predictions as good (or as bad) as the average epidemiologist about future Covid case numbers, hospitalisations and deaths. Spend an hour or two perusing some graphs and reading up on the disease from credible sources (ignore Imperial College papers) and you’ll be in the ball park.
My dad had the answer to that.
Get some anhydrous copper sulphate. Put in dish.
Put dish outside.
If the copper sulphate turns blue, then it’s raining
“If there really were a dangerous panic, then people wouldn’t need to be told what to do.”
Well, there’s certainly been a dangerous panic.
Did you mean “dangerous virus”?
I was a bit surprised when I saw the opening sentence of today’s edition :
“Yesterday saw the biggest daily rise yet in positive tests reported: 26,688.”
As if this was a significant fact, rather than the main plank of the current scam.
We here know that PCR tests are as reliable as a plasticene ruler as indicator of infection and disease – especially when raw figures are used. The sources of error in the testing are numerous in terms of locating significant viral matter, as was stated clearly be Kary Mullis :
“if you can amplify one simple molecule up to something that you can really measure, which PCR can do, then there’s just very few molecules that you don’t have at least one single one of them in your body. ”
I know that the article rightly goes on to question the lack of other indicators – but first sentences are important, but the concept that PCR testing should be used as the prime diagnostic needs to be constantly knocked on the head. It’s an unscientific fraud.
Yes – if we accept the PCR nonsense, then we make the task of truth significantly harder.
It is a flawed premise, and therefore everything built on it is wrong.
Even the term “PCR test” is grossly misleading in my opinion… PCR is an amplification procedure that was never intended to be used as a first-line diagnostic tool.
Another way of looking at it, is maybe as a gateway headline. If people visit for the first time, they’re seeing something that’s familiar from the MSM sites and might be more likely to lure them in?
Possibly – but I’m dubious. Starting off with what is subliminally a confirmation of the major myth is not a good idea.
Even in those terms, there is an immediate refutation that could be presented – in the form of the CEBM graph, which shows an essentially flat trajectory :
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/tracking-uk-covid-19-cases/
A pity the last five-year average was not included in the diagram.
Not if your an MP with shares in a testing company it isn’t
Tulip bulbs anyone?
In fairness, Will did use “positive tests” rather than “cases”.
Actually used “cases” in quotes, in the headline.
Agreed
Ah but there is money to be made and that’s the real motivation!
They are not cases until they are admitted to hospital. They are people testing positive to the PCR test which has a high rate of false positives. Indeed these people should be subject to a different test a few days later to check the reliability. We also learn today that people who are tested twice count as two so called cases….fraudulent to say the very least
I think it was on LS that someone posted the following about defining a case of an infectious disease which is ‘notifiable’ like this one.
1) experience symptoms from infection
2) be ill enough to seek medical care or advice.
The physician then suspects correct diagnosis and most often sends a sample to the lab. Tests must come back positive and the case must be reported. What we have instead of a case is a ‘positive test’ – and even on the test packet it states that a positive test is not necessarily a sign of infection as it needs to be taken in context of the diagnosis, IMO Toby should not use the word CASE
Why not just use a more reliable test or let people who are feeling sick get tests?
Because the “pandemic ” would disappear overnight without the pillar 2 tests.
No wonder they’re called pillars – they’re propping up the whole scam.
Lockdowns ‘kill more Britons than they save’: Leading economists warn that Government’s coronavirus strategy is coming with a heavy price
Decent coverage, but who is this Tony Yates buffoon and where does he get his ideas from?
“Tony Yates, of think-tank the Resolution Foundation, was cautious of relaxing restrictions too speedily but said the first lockdown should probably have ended sooner.
…
Mr Yates pointed out that global data simply did not apply to the UK, where Covid-19 seems to have caused proportionally many more deaths.
…
He said: ‘To me there is no alternative except for stumbling through these lockdown measures, hoping that test and trace improves, hoping that a vaccine comes. The only alternative is a regular harvest of about 0.6 per cent of the population.‘”
So somehow he believes that this disease will “harvest” a percentage of people greater than the known ifr, or at best comparable to it if you assume we have a particularly vulnerable elderly population rather than making the more plausible assumption to explain higher UK death rates which is that the UK government killed vulnerable people by prioritising “protecting the NHS”, basically forever? Is he an idiot?
This goes beyond just the usual taking of worst case scenarios and assuming they will definitely happen if we don’t panic respond.
Video of the Committee meeting is here:
https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/1553ddbf-9b39-4866-80ea-44fd6a505153
More about Tony Yates here:
https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/about-us/team/tony-yates/
Says it all – Tony Yates – Macroeconomic Policy Unit Research Associate.
Part of the problem …
Looks like an intelligent chap. How does he end up being so profoundly stupid on the disease front? In fairness, I haven’t watched the coverage you also linked, so perhaps the Mail misrepresented his views.
Mr Yates possibly has the backing of a billionaire or pharmaceutical company.
At least Mr. Yates recognises that all we are doing is “stumbling” along and “hoping” for something to turn up.
Is he an idiot?
Obviously. ‘A regular harvest of 0.6% of the population’. The dodgy PHE/ONS figures don’t even back that up.
Are hospitals/GPs using early-stage interventions such as well-documented, safe, effective and cheap HCQ treatments?
https://hcqlost.com
Do the rolling numbers refer to the UK, the US, the world??
I know this isn’t a particularly good historical parallel – but I keep thinking on it.
In 410 (or there abouts) Rome told the Romanised citizenry of Britain they could help them no longer to keep out the marauding Picts, Irish and Saxons and to look to their own defences. Will there yet be a 410 moment with this government?
No, I think it’s a pretty good historical comparison.
Empires, governments, never voluntarily draw back. They retreat when they run out of resources – ie money.
The West now is in a very similar position to the later Western Roman Empire.
I recommend you look at the financial position of the UK government.
This is before the tsunami of boomer retirements really gets going, with pension, health services and care obligations which are unfunded and clearly unfundable.
Something has to give.
There is one difference, the old Empires had money made from metals, our new Empires can produce endless digital currency (and they certainly have this year!).
They are obviously not going to miss this opportunity to reset government debts and strengthen their hold over the population with a trackable digital currency – this could be perpetual enslavement if people don’t wake up.
Spot on! This is definitely where this is all heading – digital currency, trackable health status, probably universal basic income and exclusion for those whom the state cannot monitor. Why let a good pandemic go to waste?
Yes, I think it will be the financial costs that will cause a retreat not the madness of it. (Though I note what Darryl says below – is money real an more?)
I think that Biker might save the day with a Pictish army, as he tells us frequently that he’s a proud Pict.
With a band of Pict men.
How many of the 650 MP’s are in the know of the Great Reset and how many are just dense jolly hockey sticks types?
The enormous majority of them are as thick as two short planks.
They are making loads of money they don’t give a shit
In addition to their salaries and proceeds of crime (sorry expenses) they will have been given the inside track on what companies to buy shares in etc
In advance they will know the date of government announcements and how that will effect this or that share price
Expensive consultancies and jobs on boards.
They do not want this to end it’s a goldmine
WOW.
It’s heartening to see all these comments. It works like a release valve. I feel that there are many others who think and talk like me, who have the capacity for rational thought and don’t believe in the madness that has taken over a vast majority of people since March.
i know it feels like swimming against the tide with both hands behind you back, but please keep Telling your stories and comments, even if just for my sanity!
And mine
Nobody here has any intention of letting up until this country is free.
Indeed. The refusal of one brave man (Nick Whitcombe) to close his gym, has resulted in all gyms being allowed to stay open in all tiers. The government presumably wanted to avoid the bad publicity of a prosecution and imprisonment. It shows change CAN happen if ordinary people fight back.
Agreed! I fight back depression with this terrible situation. When I come to this site, I am lifted up. Thanks to all of you!
Is anyone else terrified of what they are going to implement when the standard winter respiratory hospitalisation rates start going up. Victoria here we come.
Fear is failure. Think of it as an opportunity to learn new stuff – subversion, guerrilla tactics, sarcasm, alternative means of communication, etc.
I consider this country to be now under hostile government, similar to that of an occupying army. So I will definitely be brushing up on my subversion tactics.
Yep, has to be done.
Real or gone into hiding?:
https://www.health-ni.gov.uk/news/health-minister-robin-swann-self-isolating-after-receiving-exposure-alert-0
HAHAHAHA
the way things going the makers of Lemsip are going to need a government bail out
Good news folks! My first recruit: waiting in chemist to collect prescription, young man, bare faced standing nearby.
I greeted him and acknowledged his lack of mask.
He can’t stand them;won’t wear one,and has been thrown out of a couple of shops.
Luckily I had a spare badge which I gave him with a few tips.
Off he went, one happy customer: every little helps!
I’d despaired of gaining any converts but hopefully, he’ll spread the word now.
“the last really bad flu season before this one, when a greater proportion of the UK population died – hospitals would leave people dying in waiting rooms“
“We’ve safely aborted connection on cdn.livetrafficfeed.com because it was infected with URL:Blacklist”
InProportion being given the suppression treatment?
Link to NI’s evidence page:
https://www.health-ni.gov.uk/covid-19-scientific-evidence
Enjoyable reading in places.
These might interest Richard Pinch in particular:
https://www.health-ni.gov.uk/R-Number
They have a chart in each paper showing testes per 1000 population which clearly shows the testing ramp up.
Reading through the latest one this caught my eye:
“The value of R differs somewhat when other inputs are used”
No shit batman!
And from the last week of July to the first week of October testing per 1000 population increased from 4 to 34 so about a 700% increase if my maths is correct.
No wonder there are more cases is it?
Because there is lag between the inputs. e.g. cases and hospital admissions.
So which is correct?
I know – the scariest to justify whatever the next piece of idiocy is.
It’s all a load of testes…
‘testes’
The paper about flu and Covid-19 together has just over 20,000 patients out of roughtly 78,000 admitted with probable Covid-19 (doesn’t seem to be tested)
96% of people with respiratory issues of this 20000 were not tested for flu. Only roughly 800 were.
Not “issues” but problems. Can we re-instate the proper use of the word “issue”?
Hear, bloody hear! The word ‘issue’ has many meanings, but ‘problem’ is not one of them.
You probably already know this, AG, but this is just the document/evidence that SAGE used to suggest a ‘circuit breaker’ to Johnson & Co. after the SAGE meeting on 21st September.
The summary that goes with it is here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/925854/S0769_Summary_of_effectiveness_and_harms_of_NPIs.pdf
NI Gov are pushing it a bit calling it evidence.
There is no evidence supplied by them.
I shall try to make this my last comment today. Too much stress. But The Great Reset isn’t going to work is it? How can it? What will really happen over the next few days, weeks and months? Surely this madness will be stopped?
Very gradually some columnists are asking the right questions and finally doing some research. They cannot keep this Plandemic going, there will be a breaking point soon.
Well, I certainly hope so!
I lost interest in the Great Reset when I realised that my credit card debts were not going to be written off
Trip to the dental hygienist first thing. It was my second trip to the dentist since masks became compulsory and my first since we moved to tier 2. The dentist is private, I understand that many NHS are still not providing much or any service.
On the first trip where I had a proper drilling and filling treatment I was required to call from the car park and then ushered in, temperature check, goop and “have you got a mask? Said I was exempt and there was a nervous giggle and a lack of knowledge what to do but they didn’t push it. When I was waiting mid appointment for the cap to be milled, I chose to return to my car and was brought back in by the nurse. Throughout my dentist and nurse were friendly and professional.
Today, even though we are in tier 2, no mention was made of my mask-less status and the whole appointment proceeded without any issues at all. Usual temp check and goop but I put up with those on such occasions. I was the only person, including receptionists behind a screen, who was mask-less. Well done them for causing me no embarrassment.
I have to say my depression gets worse and I nearly burst into tears in the hygienist’s chair. She did nothing wrong but the whole dystopian game is really too much.
Excellent work to venture into the lion’s den and uphold your principles. It may not feel like it, but you have made a difference today.
You did it! And you will be able to do it again, and maybe tell someone else they can do it. Richard O is absolutely right, well done.
Went to private dentist on Monday; have to wait outside – challenged by dental nurse for not wearing a mask. Said ‘exempt’ – asked ‘Is this for a medical reason?’ Answer ‘Yes’ followed by awkward pause but nothing more said!
Well done, my dentist hasn’t insisted on masks for patients only for his staff and him. Mind you I do wonder if he’s a bit of a sceptic at heart.
Good for you! I’ve just called my practice to arrange for regular scale and polish;still not available on the NHS.
The practice answer phone message is batty: NHS procedures are limited to dental emergencies, but a limited number of privately funded procedures is available. This is immediately followed up by:’ We are currently accepting new NHS patients, so please speak to a member of our team to arrange an appointment’.
Good luck with that!
Even standard NHS checks are still verboten.
And,to add to the fun, charges for scale and polish have risen sharply since my last appointment on August 31st.
This ,apparently, is to compensate the practice for loss of income; a direct result of Holyrood’s clamp down on routine NHS procedures and the increased costs incurred : plastic, plastic, more plastic,cleaning, surgeries emptied for 60 minutes between procedures.
So,Professor Leitch, wherever you are, have a long hard think about the damage being done to the dental profession and its NHS patients.
This farce has dragged on since March,with no end in sight.
Update from Sydney. My child is going public primary school 4th grade, no masks, no social distancing. Parents aren’t allowed on school grounds. This started in May, the middle of winter and no issues.
There was a huge tv production crew in Ultimo (Sydney) filming an American pharmaceutical commercial for an Asthma medicine. Everyone not being filmed was wearing a mask. The woman I spoke with said they are filming in Australia since they can’t film in America.
Clampdown by Bruce Springsteen?! Er Toby, ever heard of The Clash?
2yo came home early yesterday from preschool with a temperature, kept him off today as he’s all phlegmy with a temp from time to time. Hopefully he’ll be back tomorrow. They didn’t mention a test, he wouldn’t be having one anyway. They’re non-hysterical there, stayed open throughout for ‘key workers’ such as myself. Perhaps they see it like me, if they force a poorly kid to get tested as a condition of return and it comes back (fake) positive then the whole place has got to isolate. What’s in it for them?
Both my young kids have chesty phlegmy coughs, but no temp. One of the new Covid policies in their creche is if they have a new, continuous cough they need testing before they can return (if negative, otherwise isolate at home). They have had their coughs for over a week now and nothing has been said to us and we have kept our mouths shut, carrying on as normal. You can hear other kids coughing when dropping off/collecting them. I reckon they dont want such young kids to go through the test. Mine are 2.5 and 1.5.
If they asked us to get them tested I would just keep them at home for a couple of weeks, I am not putting my kids through a test, no effing way.
Off topic I know but where was the water coming in as I have leak in the boot too?!
It’s not a Mark 3 Focus by any chance, is it?
No it is a Ford but a Mondeo.
(Apologies to everyone for this discussion, normal government hating service will be resumed shortly, just after some free car advice)
That’s the trouble with the Welsh! (lol)
Achilles/KH1485, there is tons of stuff on Youtube, complete how to’s. Mine involved removing the back bumper, removing vents and siliconing them. Took me most of the day, going slowly and carefully, but I reckon I could do it again in about 2 or 3 hours. Money saved *and* you know it’s been done properly.
Can’t recommend Youtube enough, there was a full step by step for my problem.
KH, if it’s a Focus, have a look at the ‘bungs’ mentioned in this vid, one minute in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJpgZorpULM
It’s really easy, you just take a plug out and then put it back. No tools. If water comes out (NB will run down your arm), you may well have the problem I had, and fixing the light cluster seals may not fully get the problem. At least ask your garage if they know about the vents problem.
Also check for wetness in passenger footwells. Had to dry one of mine with a wet vac.
A brave man has scaled the scaffolding at Big Ben and unfurled an anti-lockdown banner. Met too busy checking face masks and photo ID to intervene. https://www.rt.com/uk/504215-big-ben-activist-anti-lockdown-banner/
It looks like regional divisiveness might end up being our path out of this mess.
Blm and extinction part of the job arguing for more lockdown cash. Cannot read the banners in the photos a present but see no reasin that’s not an establishment managed opposition.
Yep, surely any activist worth his/her salt would come up with a catchier more visible effort ?
They were too busy checking the basement for fireworks probably.
Professor Leitch, erstwhile dentist turned specialist in public health, has announced that the idea of having big family gatherings this Xmas is a “fiction”.
Leith, whose schooling included attending Airdrie Acadmey for 6 years, where he played a role in the school’s performance of HMS Pinafore, says we need to prepare for a digital Christmas. Another term found in our “new normal”.
Presumably this means cheering festively over Zoom and only seeing those in your “support bubble”, as long as it’s not more than 2 households and doesn’t contain more than 6 people.
It would be unkind to question Leitch’s credentials as National Clinical Director, yet unhelpfully his Wikipedia entry contains no verifiable citations on his “professorship” or how he went from being a specialist in root canals to a specialist in leading a country’s response to a respiratory viral outbreak. However, he is an honourary consultant in Oral Surgery.
Hence, he’s the man with the information and guidance that shapes the plan.
And the plan is, according to our Professor Leitch, that it’s an unthinkable option to gather with our families this festive season.
Stick to your bubble. The rule of six applies. Save granny, by not having her round for Xmas dinner.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54643340
I think we need to consider locking up these lockdown luvvies or else we’ll never have a life!
If I had my way he’d be struck off and confined to a Lubyanka look alike. perhaps we could export him yo the real Lubyanka?
Now dentists all, whoever you may be,
If you want to rise to the top of the tree,
If your soul isn’t fettered to a dental stool,
Be careful to be guided by this golden rule.
Stick close to your teeth and never see disease,
And you all may be rulers of the Viral Wheeze!
Professor gifted to him by Dundee University.
There is a noticanle absence of click throught’s on his wikipedia. Particukarly relevant to his CBE – for service to health. Leaves us unaware of what giant feat earned him a royal recognition.
They have some very interesting articles here:
https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/uk-column-news-21st-october-2020
The lesser of two evils?
Research indicates that between 80-90% of adult males in the UK regularly consume sexual pornography. The figure for females is 60-70 %. I find this utterly unbelievable which either confirms me as truly naive or unashamedly and childishly innocent. The other explanation for these gross and exaggerated figures is that Professor Neil Ferguson has been moonlighting and has applied his twenty year record of getting things spectacularly wrong to this most personal aspect of human behaviour.
Sexual pornography, whilst carrying a high degree of mental health risk for those who view it, and physical risk for those who indulge in it, doesn’t hold a candle to the sheer destructive power of that other pornography that is thrust down our throats, day and night, by mainstream TV channels and newspapers. I refer of course to the constant brain sapping, mind destroying, full on bombardment of Covid Pornography.
Here are bona fide examples of how educated, relatively wealthy, and former pillars of society that are within my sphere of acquaintance are now, and have been, behaving—direct results of Covid porn addiction.
* Leaves food in car for 3-4 days before bringing in house to make sure ‘Covid’ dies.
* Cancer sufferer (brain tumour) and wife clapping the NHS when treatments cancelled shortening his life.
* Couple never leaving their house for seven months (although they can be seen in their garden from time to time).
* Person with undiagnosed serious illness given pain killers and anti inflammatories via the telephone. Another enthusiastic pot banger for the NHS.
* Couple who walk around in circles constantly talking into their mobile phones.
* Social distancing not 2 meters but 4-5 meters (which explains why I can hear conversations when in my kitchen from people outside).
* Haven’t seen families for entire duration of pandemic—-don’t want them near. Families don’t want to come.
* Business owner who has had to permanently close his business but says ‘Boris is doing his best’.
* A complete and utter shut down of any kind of questioning of the lock down narrative.
* A complete adherence to masks.
* Complete rejection of any other view that doesn’t fit with…..’unless we do as we are told we are all doomed’.
* A house so bulging with toilet rolls that the roof has risen six inches and the building is in imminent danger of collapse.
Actually, I made that last one up….but I swear the previous examples are all true.
I know these people. I know that a common theme between them is the mainstream TV news and in many cases a fondness for the ‘Guardian’ newspaper. I long to tell them about the American journalist who asked a member of the Amish community why they had no cases of Covid and was told ‘because we don’t watch television’. But I fear it would fall on stony ground.
Something else I’ve thought about (but would never dare mention because my acquaintances are too straight laced—although statistically some of them must indulge anyway) is to suggest a change of viewing habits. Seeing as they are spending virtually their entire lives indoors and are consuming vast amounts of Covid porn—- they might just change tack ,if only occasionally, to the sexual sort. If nothing else it would get their minds off death, destruction and unadulterated fear and on to exploitation, titillation and iniquitous practices. The latter is never a recipe for a decent life and peace of mind but when compared to the destruction of the soul it seems to me to be the lesser of two evils.
The figure for men does not surprise me. A survey of my younger self reveals that there is a 100% probability that it is indeed true.
I’ll give Devi Does Davos a miss
Not sure about “Hancock’s Half Hour Up The Stranger’s Gallery” either.
You’re not naive, Harry. Most people know most research stats are made up; look at SAGE’s modelling, for instance (as you said, Ferguson).
Research: get massive grant, fuck about doing nothing for ages, produce ridiculous statement about whatever you were asked to research.
This from public health Wales:
https://public.tableau.com/profile/public.health.wales.health.protection#!/vizhome/RapidCOVID-19virology-Public/Headlinesummary
If it goes to the main page look at the GP Consultation tab.
The graphs as you scroll down are interesting specially the ramping up of these starting beginning Sept and a big rise Mid-Sept of:
exaceberated severe asthma
lower respiratory tract infections
upper respiratory tract infections
acute respiratory tract infeccions
All up at the same time.
About the right timing (6 or so weeks) for the effects of mask wearing to start kicking in?
I cant remember where I saw it, but watched a clip about a month ago of a respiratory nurse in the US saying they had noted increases of pleurisy due to lengthy mask wearing in otherwise healthy individuals.
The triumph of China’s Covid spin offers a terrifying glimpse of the West’s future
Our singular failure to come up with an alternative to draconian lockdowns will have world-transforming consequences
SHERELLE JACOBS
DAILY TELEGRAPH COLUMNIST
22 October 2020 • 6:00am
Sherelle Jacobs
If the prospect of a winter lockdown is nourishing your inner nihilist, I recommend bingeing on the latest Chinese blockbusters. Watching the films that have led Chinese studios to eclipse Hollywood sales for the first time in history is like staring into the Western abyss. Take The Wandering Earth – a sci-fi trending on Netflix about a mission to move our planet to a new galaxy after a spike in Jupiter’s gravity. It is Star Wars scrubbed of its limitless human progress and frontier spirit. In the peculiarly cyclical story – about protecting and reviving humanity on Earth rather than exploring the universe – the European linear conception of time is obsolete. (Unsurprising? Mandarin has neither a past or future tense, nor China a creation myth.)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/10/22/triumph-chinas-covid-spin-offers-terrifying-glimpse-wests-future/#comment
Too many people spend far too much time worrying about China.
Travelling around China quite a bit in the last few years I am struck by how few children there are.
China is going the demographic way of South Korea.
The future belongs to those who have children.
Someone please make it stop! Another down day today!
Yes, get away from the screen for some nature therapy, good fresh air!
Even now the thundering herd of pro-Vaxxers line up to volunteer for their life-affirming trial Covid shots, life-ending though the side effects might be.
Greater love hath no man than this, that he lay down his life for his country.
Greater naivete hath no man than this, that he risk his life for the earnings per share ratio (taking into account: interest, taxes and depreciation) of the pharmaceutical industry.
Can we abandon the terminology of ‘pro-Vaxxer’ and ‘anti-Vaxxer’? In both cases it’s simplistic propaganda bullshit that – like all such terminology – just works to confuse the actual issues.
Life ending regardless of whether you get the placebo or Dr. Gates’ cocktail of delights.
But are they? I am the sole sceptic amongst a family of zealots. When the issue of a vaccine came up, every single one of my family said they wouldn’t take a vaccine when first released but would wait until it had been in use for a while.
To which I duly responded that it was very civic minded of them (not!) to allow other people to be the guinea pigs for their “safety”. Cue silence.
There needs to be a shift away from swab tests and a move to carrying out many more blood tests. Not only are swab tests unreliable, they allow the government and the media to fake the number of ‘cases’, ramp up the fear-mongering and continue the supression of our freedom.
How long does it take to train a phelbotomist? 4 days? 5 days?
Blood tests tell us if we’ve had CV-19. If we’ve had it then we can get back to doing stuff – the old normal, if you will. Every day we’d have good news (if the media were forced to publish it) telling the nation(s) how many more people were above and beyond any need to ‘stay safe’. We could wear a lanyard or wristband (given free with each T-cell positive test result). Students would be encouraged to catch it and get over it (which, in itself, might help reduce the number of snowflakes).
Oh, for fuck’s sake, lets just get on with our lives.
Has anyone seen this from NHS England:
Critical Care Bed Capacity and Urgent Operations Cancelled
Due to the coronavirus illness (COVID-19) and the need to release capacity across the NHS to support the response, we are pausing the collection and publication of these and some of our official statistics.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/critical-care-capacity/
This is precisely when some of us would love to see data on how Covid is affecting critical care bed capacity & cancelled ops. Do you think there is something they don’t want us to know?
Best case, gross negligence. Worst case, mass murder
And people still think the NHS is great….
Scots told to prepare for ‘digital Christmas’https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54643340
Who the hell does he think he is, trying to dictate family life like this? I can only hope that there is substantial resistance and that the public will give the middle finger to people like him.
He’s an arsehole.
Hope this does not give the fat clown and his men from glaxo any ideas.
They are measuring Scottish public reception in order to prepate their method for telling the entire country Christmas will be a lonely sad day for millions.
The weeks to flatten the curve.
Fire break. Circuit break.
Amazing isn’t it?
Told to do this, told to do that.
By our nominal employees.
A fucking dentist telling me what to do. Fuck off
But the important celebration in Scotland is not Christmas, but Hogmanay. He didn’t dare mention the ‘H’ word!
Because of the nanny state. People are used to being told what to do for their own good. Politicians are used to telling people what to do for their own benefit. So everyone is very willing to simply play along.
It’s also the maternal instinct. A father would seek to toughen up their child, to expose, support, and push. A mother always seeks to protect, envelop, guard. This is why a child needs both parents. Our society is becoming more and more maternal. We lost our balance.
This may be true in metropolitan areas, but there are still outposts of biological normality in the rural areas. Hence the sustained attack on rural communities and organic agriculture that has been going on for at least a century.
Agreed!
““Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
G. Michael Hopf
I think the good times are at an end.
Weak men who meekly obey authority when told not to comfort their grieving mother.
Hard times create strong men…unless they get the Covid vaccine, in which case they will not even be human.
No. That’s just an axe-grinding generalisation.
It’s actually much, much simpler : the inculcation of Fear – an explicit intention of the Goebbels Brigade (SPI-B).
The use of Fear with manipulation of associated emotions is classic psy-ops.
Rick, I agree, but I also think that this psyop has fallen on particularly fertile ground, as Cristi. Neagu suggests.
It is still possible to be a proponent of the welfare state, as I believe you are and there’s nothing wrong with that, and still acknowledge that it has made a large number of people less self-reliant and more dependent on the authorities.
I think there ae a lot of other factors at work also, soI wouldn’t want to emphasize this one too much.
Agreed. I like women – I am one. We need more women in business, and more men in schools.
My son’s primary school, whilst very good, has only one male teacher, very young, looks like Daniel Radcliffe circa Goblet of fire. Has polka dot clothes days for Children in Need. Ever tried finding polka dot clothes for a boy? Good luck with that. Last year had a sparkle day! WTF!
I ended up taking him to Tae Kwondo lessons to put a decent male role model in front of him who he wasnt related to.
Why are people surrendering their liberty? partly because we are all consumer subjects in this society not citizen subjects. ‘The good life’ has not equipped us for recognising or fighting tyranny ( that happens in other unfortunate countries doesn’t it?
Years ago at the end of the lunchtime news on R4 I could hit the radio off switch faster than a striking cobra, just at the first bars of “The Archers” music. The same effect happens when I hear “I wash my”.
I have leaped sofas and hurdled banisters in the same cause banishing any trace of The Archers from my world.
Do they have ‘The virus’ in Ambridge I wonder?
Last time I heard it, they were certainly suffering the ill effects of lockdown on their mental health: they were all talking to themselves!
as are most of the BBC
initially they did but now they are broadcasting episodes recorded pre lockdown so there is a disclaimer before the broadcast to explain the apparent lack of social distancing, masks etc
Just a shout-out for those who may have missed it in ‘Round-Up’ – the InProportion dashboard. It’s a welcome assemblage of some key indicators to help get a grip on reality (as opposed to propaganda). :
http://inproportion2.talkigy.com/dashboard/
Hmmm. Better pray for a Trump election victory.
It doesn’t matter who wins. The UK will keep digging itself a bigger hole
Disagree. If Trump wins and most of the US reopens, it will put pressure on other nations to do the same.
They won’t. Democratic governors will keep doing what they want and will reopen when they are bored of their dictatorial powers.
The courts have been overruling them already.
They are very reliant on federal unemployment support and stimulus though.
It’s interesting that the very people who had been shouting that we didn’t want US interests taking over the NHS, have effectively spent the last 7 months sanctioning just that? At least, that’s how I see it will end, whovever wins the election.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/6187826/coronavirus-scotland-leitch-digital-christmas/
Scottish Government’s national clinical director warns Scots to prepare for a “digital Christmas” with large family gatherings “a fiction”
He says, “people should get their digital Christmas ready”.
The fastest look into the background of this man shows he has strong involvement with the Christian Church. On the very day of lockdown he was communicating to the Scottish Christian community how ‘at Church’ is not, nor ever has been, about being at church. At Church is everywhere, so zoom the fuck up and for God’s sake lock the church doors. He was in the game from the very beginning. He has links to israel, to Havard and his Professor status gifted to him by Dundee Universoty. He is involved in evangelical work in India and is a CBE.
What a total twat.
A good point, well made.
I say fuck off and stick your digital Christmas up your arse, and if you don’t do it I will
It is hard to grasp the scale of the irrationality that has gripped our public guardians. I’m not just considering whether we think the disease is uniquely dangerous or not. I am thinking of the response, even if it is.
On what possible grounds could we spend £300 billion per year, twice the annual cost of the NHS, and largely shut the NHS at the same time, to prevent a problem that was already solved by building additional capacity?
On what possible grounds would we do this to extend, by perhaps a few months at most, the lives of people with dementia and Alzheimer’s, chronic heart and lung disease and all the usual causes of death?
How on earth did we enter a lockdown with a model that clearly showed there was no way out of it?
We have now been captured by public health guardians and behavioural specialist, who have no incentive to stop digging. The best thing we could do is to stop testing. Either people are being hospitalised because of a respiratory infection, or they are not. It doesn’t matter what caused it. There is no difference in treatment either way.
The public guardians are being perfectly rational – saving their jobs and reputations
It’s the public who are being irrational which allows them to do this
The public fell for the fear porn
I tried explaining the pointlessness of the measures to a lockdown lunatic friend the other day, explaining we are basically putting sops out to placate fools like him while whilst the virus is doing what it would be doing anyway. The example of a useful measure he gave me was school bubbles (he’s a head teacher).
I pointed out we have 2 kids, a son and a step daughter. they go to different schools and are in different bubbles. 60% of the kids in each of their bubbles have siblings – in another bubble. Stepdaughter goes back and forth between our household and her mother’s. Her mother has a daughter with her new partner – another school, another bubble. This daughter also goes to after school care, where she is in ANOTHER bubble – with kids from different schools all in different school bubbles.
Also in stepdaughter’s mothers household – a step brother from her mother’s new partner. He is in different bubble again, and goes back and forth between HIS mother’s household and theirs.His mother has 2 subsequent children, who go to different schools with different bubbles, and to after school care – another bubble.
So how are kids separated to stop infections crossing households, exactly.
His answer – the bubbles of course.
Some people are beyond help.
The psychology is really interesting.
People do not usually behave in a way to reduce harm to others, unless it is in their own interests. I think the root of lockdown and mask wearing is people thinking deep down that they are protecting themselves.
It helps if they do not suffer any financial consequence.
Carrot and stick.
He suffers no financial penalty or threat to livelihood from lockdown measures and pointless bubbling – but the local authorities have also pushed hard to put risk assessments down to schools and make head teachers liable.
He needs to believe the measures will “protect” the students – even though they wont and they dont need protecting anyway.
Exactly – plus perceived higher social status through demonstration of apparent altruism – eg mask.wearing.
Mask wearing might induce a sense of higher social status but it’s a clear indication of lower intellectual capacity.
When they are wearing masks on empty streets or alone in cars, it is clear they think it is a gas mask that protects them.
This prick should be confined to an asylum where he can blow bubbles out of his ass all day long to his heart’s content.
Instead, our sick, twisted society promotes such an inept individual to the role of head teacher. Literally the caretaker of our future.
I must admit, whilst he is a likeable individual on the whole, the thought of him in charge of a large primary school gave me pause, even before corona.
It’s a cult, like the Branch Davidians, the Kool Aid drinkers etc, it is pointless trying to explain or reason with them
I get lunatics knocking on the door. These nut jobs tell me that if I’m not in their gang on judgement day I’m fucked. They really believe it
If we could dig up a Kool Aid drinker and spark them back to life, the first thing they would ask for is another sip
Don’t waste your time
That’s a big bathtub full of bubbles.
Remember , bubbles burst and then there is just air.
You’ll all be sadden to hear that the arch skeptic and wonderful magician James Randi has passed away.
From old age
One of the greats, sad news.
One should not speak ill of the dead. So …
Randi was like one of two flies in the same bowl of soup saying to the other: “A recipe? Well show me the recipe and I’ll give you a million dollars”.
But a great entertainer.
Sunak is explaining the money he is going to give away to stop people rioting.
Brilliant idea, just make the unsustainable mountain of debt even bigger.
The future is so, so, so dark.
It’s perfectly sustainable because it’s not debt, Gilts are somebody’s risk free savings.
Since when has saving been unsustainable or undesirable?
The debt argument is as much of a control myth as the effectiveness of face masks.
Sure. The government giving away money to people in exchange for not producing anything is perfectly sustainable.
They are giving people money to buy things, so that production will continue – as an offset for those people who have decided not to spend all they earn and are thereby denying the very same people an income.
Stuff only gets made if there is somebody to buy it. Otherwise they close down – as we are seeing daily.
As I said, it is the savings that is the problem – which government has to offset if we’re not to get a collapse.
But why in the current climate would you invest in a new pub or restaurant, a new minicab firm, a new art gallery, a film, a theatre production, a new block of city centre flats, a new range of beers? Even if people’s wages were fully subsidised they can’t or have no need to spend money in these parts of the economy in a locked down world.
Let’s see how long the UK government continues to sell debt at low interest rates.
If rates remain near zero, then you’re right, it can just all go on for ever.
But they won’t and it won’t.
Loans are never forever, so even with near zero interest rates, that puts a cap on how much you can borrow and remain solvent. As individuals we know it is impossible to borrow 100% of our annual income every year to finance everyday expenditure of x2 our income.
At zero interest rate you can borrow as much as you like for as long as you like. It literally has no cost.
You have to pay back the principal. So while interest rates may be 0% now, in ten years’ time if they are 5% pa you have a problem when it comes to borrowing that amount again in order to pay back the principal. If you have been reckless and borrowed 200% of your GDP you will likely be unable to service the interest on your debt and will default on payments.
And as far as I know gilts still have interest on them.
Explain how that interacts with the balance of payments and the GBP exchange rate.
Declaration of interest – I am an accountant working in treasury. I (unfortunately) know a bit more about exchange rates than is healthy.
Depends who buys the debt.
Just putting this down as a marker, while I fetch some popcorn.
I can sort of see this to the extent that provision of services like haircuts and transport remains within the sterling area so there’s an argument for ‘giving’ people here the money to keep the wheels turning.
But a lot of physical ‘stuff’ comes from Europe in euros, China in whatever funny money they use for external trade, and so on. And not all economies are going down the chute at the same rate, so there will be devaluations/revaluations one against another. And who are the lenders with the capital to oil the wheels for all that, and will they want to? And at what rates?
Not so!
The best way to think of it is not in monetary terms but in physical terms.
Taking on more debt = Consumption greater than production – of physical goods and services.
Consumption can only be greater than production by drawing down savings or by plundering a third party.
Again that is incorrect. There isn’t a fixed amount of stuff. Nor is there an excess of consumption over production. The problem is that production doesn’t happen unless there is some consumption. People without money can’t consume so production drops.
You have the problem backwards. The “debt” comes at the end of the process as people decide not to spend and to save – which then denies somebody downstream from that an income. Then you get a cascade collapse due to a lack of spending.
You’re missing the increase in net saving – which government is offsetting.
You are forgetting about investment for which savings are necessary.
A lion must catch an antelope beore he can eat. Production must come before consumption, and in the moment in which production is realized consumption becomes possible. Money is merely the intermediary of all this.
In the aggregate an economy produces. Most of that production – food, furniture, cars etc is consumed, but some is invested – captll goods used to sustain consumtiion into the future. Without investment, at least in maintenance, the productive capacity of an economy must necessarily degrade and therefore consumtion will fall.
In the present situation the lockdowns etc have necessarily reduced the production of goods and services. Since the good citizens are loathe to consume less and since the government wishes to keep them onside, Sunak is attempting to subsidise living standards.
The bottom line is that UK consumption of goods and services has not fallen by as far as UK production of goods and services, because the public sector through debt has subsidised consumption.
Add.
“The “debt” comes at the end of the process as people decide not to spend and to save – which then denies somebody downstream from that an income”
That saving, channelled into investment, also creates income as it is spent on research and development, production of capital goods, maintenance of equipment etc.
All, assuming a market economy of course.
Ah… the caveat. But when the government closes businesses by force and in their place gives away money, that’s not a market economy. That is central planning of the worst possible kind – one that doesn’t even pretend to lead to production.
If we were like Japan and were borrowing from our own citizens that would be one thing but we owe money to people outside the UK and that (borrowing more and more of oter peoples money)is not sustainable – that’s how countries go broke. It’s happened lots of times – then no one will lend you any money.
Personally I think if would be better for the Treasury to create the money at the push of a button. This would normally be a dangerous strategy but I think it could work.
Worked a treat in Zimbabwe.
A. Zimbabwe was deliberately destroying its most productive ecomomic sector and allowed non productive corruption to flourish.
B. Harare was not a world financial centre handling trillions of business.
C. There wasn’t a global pandemic.
As long as we released ourselves from the Lockdown tyranny and got the economy moving again, I think a limited button pushing exercise to pay off Covid related debt could be acceptable to the markets.
So like Britain today.
Big if. Or to be more precise, will have to happen, but only when a system is in place for the government to implement health surveillance on all the population, and everyone has been duly vaccinated.
We are prisoners, being charged daily for our stay in prison and the terms of our release will include giving up a number of freedoms we all had before we were locked up. Until we accept these terms, our prison fees continues to accumulate.
Gordon Brown all over again. But cheer up, nothing is as bleak as it seems.
A thought I had:
Our elite really think the plebs live in Coronation Street Eastenders style pubs drinking flaggons of ale. Maids with cleavages and men in clogs dance to fiddles like in the Titanic or sing along to someone playing ‘we’ll meet again’ on the piano. Dangerous Guy Fawkes types in the corner.. with flaggons flowing, the whispers growing, dissenting views and ready ears.. protests and plots..
Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.
Socially distanced with bars and clubs closed or under curfew.. mask rules.. we hear no dissent and facts, see no real facts and dissent, muffled in your mask. No piano. No flaggons. No discussions with Guy Fawkes. No gunpowder. The real reason pubs and such were closed or under curfews is because that is where plebs plot.
It’s why any constitution worth its name places big emphasis on free assembly.
Where did Johnson really go, the man who Hated Big Government, or was that a lie too.
Can I nominate an obscure Hawkwind instrumental for tune of the day. It’s called “World of Tiers” I’m not making any claims to its greatness, but its a danged appropriate title.
Interesting email from Head Office today. They are located in a suburb of Hamburg. The local authorities have deemed it necessary to wear masks in the street. So colleagues are in strange situation where they don’t have to wear one in the office but they do when outside. Our other offices in Munich and Dortmund aren’t affected. Makes sense to me. Not.
I have visited Hamburg on several occasions. A city that prides itself on freedom of speech and all things anti-establishment (it was the only major German city in which Hitler never gave a speech) has been brought to its knees by the Covid Cult. Disgusting.
Sadly St. Pauli must have gone from being anti-establishment to pro Biden and Black Lives Matter – both very much anti freedom and part of the deep state / big tech / big pharma movement to enslave the world.
The wearing of masks in the street is I believe only certain ones in the town center during busy times.
The crazy thing is that my parents have to wear a face covering whilst shopping on the outdoor market. As well you are not allowed to pick your fruit and veg, hand it to the trader to be weighed.
Sadly, the towns people seem to be very sleepy, and the large Hamburg antifa is very active disturbing Querdenken demos. The antifa of course love that they are now legally allowed, even mandated, to cover their faces.
Hamburg is still one of the few countries where hotels must refuse people from high infection areas to stay unless they have a negative test 72h before arrival.
Which in itself is stupid, as in theory people could get infected in the 72 hours and then spread any virus.
Oh, such fun.
Here’s verbatim David.
We can probably guess what will happen come beginning of November!
Reposting from yesterday’s edition late as interesting of the futility in zero covid and passenger screening airports
“If someone in NZ really did get infected after just 3 mins contact then looks like we’re going to need to be isolating all casual contacts as well as close, or redefining what we mean by close.”
Life is getting more complicated for the Kiwis and the zero policy.All protocols define close contact 15 min,which is of course an arbitrary time.3 min makes highly likely an aerosol transmission. There will be an awful lot of persons to be isolated in their corona camps if they implement the above ie casual contacts. NZ also reported that they had information that the airport screening pre departure from Moscow(the fishing crew flown into NZ) was completely adequate and that screening does not pick up incubating diseases. 11 now infected of the crew.A devastating blow to airport screening.
And independent SAGE,Blair,Hague,Hunt want a zero policy!
I can’t help shake the feeling, that the NZ stats are too good to be true
Don’t know if this has been linked to before, but useful if you want to know how full the NHS hospitals actually are with covid patients.
It looks like, with the exeption of Liverpool Leeds and Doncaster most hospitals with covid patients are seeing a decrease in numbers this week. Of course the majority of hospitals have no covid patients whatsoever.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/
Check out this cool new set of Emojis for the Masked Generation – courtesy of theblogmire.com
Brilliant. Off now to share with a certain demograph. Thank you.
I don’t like seeing the evil things but that is actually quite funny.
Very funny but horribly serious when you think a two year old child will have been surrounded by people in masks for a quarter of their life. The idea this won’t have serious negative effects on child development is fantasy. Think of that every time one if these arrogant smug epidemiologists like Edmunds, Ferguson, Michie of whoever comes on our screen.
I think it is a great way of getting at the serious nature of what masks rob us of. Some people simply do not listen read or have attention span to think. The image is a rapid communication of the expressionless reality of masks. Suitable for certain friends.
Indeed. It’s under the radar stuff.
I completely agree with you though I didn’t find it remotely funny – just deeply sad for the reasons you describe.
i mentioned this weeks ago, but relevant again. couple of weeks ago in supermarket – everyone masked including lady in front at checkout. me unmasked as always. she had toddler (around18months) in trolley, who was fascinated to see a face. we had a pleasurable couple of minutes smiling and interacting.
Same here – not keen on my own kids let alone someone else but being free-faced I’ve noticed that kids will look at you and react positively when they see you.
I give my “ugh, kids grimace” which now they take as a smile when before they would probably scream and run away.
Might start going round with a pocketful of lollipop to hand out to the little plague ridden rugrats like I did to the roughnecks and roustabouts at work as an attaboy reward.
Apologies if posted.
School meals during half term is off. Parliament voted against. One Tory resigned immediately after the result.
Dining out in London last night. Clearly many people at tables, not from one household or bubble. Quite rightly restaurants ignoring.
Gather many are emailing customers asking if they would like to book business lunch/dinner. Also noticed outside restaurant Alastair Campbell with 5 others, all clearly not from same household. Clearly the law only applies to plebs or was he having a business meeting?
Everything is business for Campbell (but no, rules don’t apply to the annointed)
Money Saving Expert!!!!
Now I have every respect for Martin Lewis, but I have never seen anything more patronising than that particular suggestion on the readers email from their MP.
My God – these people need stringing up. We need people governing who have some sort of grasp of reality!
You can make a packet of pasta and a few tins of tomatoes feed a family of four for up to a week you know.
a few tins??? luxury!!!
He’s only interested in saving granny so that he can sell her
Where as we want to murder her
Anyone want to become an MP?
https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/job-profiles/mp
£82k starting salary.
Why don’t we all start a political party which actually stands up for the people?
& we could kick Matt Wankcock in the plums (like physically).
Or is this just a pipe dream?
Also, on a different note, I just want to say a massive thank you to everyone who commented on my post yesterday & offered good advice (every one of you all), you all managed to make me see thing’s in perspective. I appreciate it.
I am currently starting to sort my things out,
Keep up the fight people.
If we all lived in the same constituency, perhaps.
Can we not all just lie about where we stay?
The government clearly do as we all know, so why not us?
The SDP looks good.
The link to the Manchester Evening News doesn’t work in the first article try this: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/secrecy-spin-surrounding-greater-manchesters-19131905
On a cheerful note, just visited our little local town here in the Forest of Dean. Went into the Pet Shop, proprietor wearing mask ‘because i have to’ but happy to chat to me maskless for several minutes.
Then went to florists to pick up some flowers, 2 girls behind what looked like a home-made polythene screen, neither with masks. No comment about my lack of mask and we also had a nice chat about flowers and happy things.
A few people in the street with masks but the majority not. Mind you i have never had a comment when i go into Tesco maskless so maybe we’re a good non-conformist population here. the Forest has always been a bit of dissenting area!
Quick simple maths that even PPE graduates can do.
https://www.nao.org.uk/covid-19/cost-tracker/
How much spent so far on the cold, sorry covid. £280,000,000,000
How many deaths of (or with covid or false positives) = 44,000 rounded up.
280B/44k = £6.4M per life. More than 6 million for each life, most of which were on their last legs.
Yeah, but by their logic, you have to divide the amount spent by the number of people saved – so 68 million give or take. So just over four grand each. Bargain!
Not with a survival rate of more than 99%!
No, but they’ve saved everyone who has not died
You then have to add in all the sundry costs to lives and livelihoods and general cost to society. Then factor in that it is costing some people far more than others.
When birdbrains try to tell you it’s life vs. the economy, ask them how many cancer or heart disease or suicide deaths could have been saved with that money, which is more than twice the annual NHS England budget
Nero’s soldiers attacking the sea?
They look like Assyrians……..
A general point: the mainstream media here and in the USA .just lie all the time. A week or two ago they were gleefully reporting that Biden had mammoth poll leads of 13, 14 and 16 points (the latter was a CNN poll of course) and indicating those polls reflected the reality of the race. There was no critical analysis of these polls from our legion of overpaid stateside reporters.
Those leads were never remotely credible. They were the product of absurd statiatical assumptions deliberately chosen to favour Biden. The polls were being used as political weapons. If true, they would have meant senile incoherent Bunker-dwelling Biden was more popular than Bill Clinton or FDR at the height of their popularity!!
Now, as I predicted, the polls are narrowing as they have to as we get closer to the reality of polling day. All are now givkng Biden leads in single figures and they include 2 and 3 point leads. Hillary Clinton lost the electoral college on a 2 point popular vote win.
So, however the result turns out it is going to be a lot closer than the propaganda polls predicted.
Also note how the MSM and social media giants have been censoring the revelations about Biden’s corruption.
There is a strong parallel here with the way absurd predictions of Covid deaths, bogus claims about ICU being overwhelmed and censorship of incovenient facts are used to control the Covid conversation in the media.
Trump had it in the bag before the smear campaign against him for his reasonable covid response. People are now seeing through the smears about him now and I think people will be in for a nasty shock in November.
Indeed, I expect Trump to defy the polls again.
Trump is realistically a long way ahead. People with common sense are even suggesting he could possibly win California. Biden doesn’t have any supporter base, other than the people who will just vote democrat regardless of candidate or policy. The polls are very wrong because Trump supporters either don’t participate in them or they lie to the pollsters. If you want a good gauge of just how far ahead Trump is, watch a democrat leaning news channel like MSNBC in the US and see how miserable and grumpy all the presenters look at the moment. Trump is packing enthusiastic crowds night after night. Biden isn’t even anywhere to be found and when he is, it’s to rooms of 20 or so people who are probably all staffers.
Not sure he’s a long way ahead but he’s not a long way behind!
If he does, then after due celebrations I will doff my cap to LS commenter AidanR, who had the confidence to put money on Trump to win – again.
I quite agree, pollsters are so far up their own arses they really believe they influence normal people with their lies and then get all surprised and hurt when we don’t.
Yes Covid has been politicised as a weapon against Trump. Our useless biased reporters blame Trump entirely for all shortcomings whereas in reality he has quite limited powers on how individual states respond to a public health issue and is dependent on Congress for much of the funding required to deal with the crisis .
Unfortunately Trump has also been politicised as a weapon against Covid dissent… basic common sense and objectivity is now automatically construed as support for a political agenda. Worst of all, hardly anyone seems to object.
What a joke
Joe Biden reads from a teleprompter at a near empty Detroit parking lot
https://ussanews.com/News1/2020/10/17/watch-joe-biden-reads-from-a-teleprompter-at-a-near-empty-detroit-parking-lot/
Sturgeon pulpit. I have not seen this for weeks. I notice now she has developed a manner of looking into the camera, this is very unpleasant.
It creates a strangge situation of having the hacks disembodied voiced questions placed inside the viewers head, while sturgeon and the morbidly obese health/nurse chief talk at them. Repellant.
She must be so fucking bored of her voice and her ever wafting kermit arms.
Psychopath and all other relevant names
Sturgeon wore purple to announce five tier system. The same shade as woke gobbledegook starmer tge kneeler above. Nothing more to add. Just noted.
Tier 5 everyone stay in bed 24-7
Tier 6 crack the cyanide capsules
Common Purpose!
Tiers from the Gates of Hell
Genuine typo or Freudian slip?
Maybe on purpose. A cafe bar near us has blackboards outside with specials on, and some jokes. Yesterday’s offering? (we’d just gone tier 3)
Next week’s rules
You can come in with a family member if you both have an a or an r in your name and sit back to back.
You can have alcohol if you are over 75 and have a note from your mum OR your gran.
You can’t kiss your family or your pets, but you can kiss the postie or the man from Amazon (but only on fridays).
We will be open.
It gave me a welcome laugh either way!
I would certainly go there if it was local
it is local … just not to you !!!!
sounds like a local cafe for local people……
They have had the realisation that as long as everyone has a menu in front of them, they are clearly “just about to order a substantial meal”
Last time I was in there I shunned the QR code, they brought me pencil and paper, didnt come back for it, I didnt fill it in, used it as a coaster for my wine glass, and I’m pretty sure it got filed under b for bin.
Most of the staff sport a mask exemption lanyard, are smiling, pleasant, and not very interested in what your household arrangements are.
It’s where I go with my laptop and a coffee whenever 7 months of working from my kitchen threatens to drive me off a cliff of boredom.
They do enforce rule of 6 – by accident cos none of their tables are that big
I love this so much, it gives me hope that we will win.
God bless them, they’ve just posted on social media
Permission to go out for a drink. Our substantial meal deal. 1 menu item + 6 drinks.
They are great!
I feel like there’s an ‘idle hands’ joke in there somewhere…
Did Sir Humphrey write that?
Open letter from the World Doctors Alliance to the citizens of the world:
Extract:
“So-called asymptomatic cases have never in the history of respiratory disease been the driver for spread of infection. Rather it is symptomatic people who spread respiratory infections – not asymptomatic people.(2)
It is also abundantly clear that the ‘pandemic’ is basically over and has been since June 2020. (3)
We have very highly likely reached herd immunity and therefore have no need for a vaccine.
We have safe and very effective treatments and preventative treatments for covid, we therefore call for an immediate end to all lockdown measures, social distancing, mask wearing, testing of healthy individuals, track and trace, immunity passports, the vaccination program and so on.
https://truthcomestolight.com/2020/10/18/world-doctors-alliance-open-letter-to-the-uk-government-governments-of-the-world-and-the-citizens-of-the-world/
Notice how there has been wall-to-wall coverage of the MP who quit over free school meals but no coverage of the MP who quit over the government’s lockdown strategy?
Possible foreknowledge of ‘Covid-19’
https://truthcomestolight.com/2020/10/18/james-corbett-more-plandemic-foreknowledge/
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/tom-bower-pulls-his-punches-with-his-life-of-boris-johnson
Thus Boris… is a loner, who is secretive… He has no close male friends and can only confide his deepest feelings to his wives or girlfriends. For 25 years his rock and anchor was his wife Marina, but he could never be faithful. When she found out about his affair with Petronella Wyatt she threatened to leave him and he promised he would never see Petronella again — but of course he did, and other mistresses.
And lying to his wife made it easy to lie to other people)…
Car Insurer is offering refund for low milage. Direct line offer a 2% refund against insured miles bought and miles driven.
Admiral deposited some money into my bank account for no reason at all a few months ago, my car usage didn’t change much during ‘phase 1’ of the lockdown, and I didn’t ask for a refund!
You can’t catch an Agenda. That’s what this is, not a virus
In case anyone not seen it .Ivor Cummins way on triggernometry last night .Check it out on youtube at the triggernometry site .It’s really good .
It was really good – although I was a bit concerned about his despair at not knowing what more he can do to make them listen.
https://twitter.com/Covid19Crusher/status/1319196144572956672
“The seasonality of SARS-COV-2 is quite something. Like the apparent absence of benefit of social distancing.”Italy
Apparent?
What he is saying is that this virus is now seasonal and connected with the weather depending on latitude in a way similar with Hope Simpson description of flu epidemics/pandemics.In April everybody hoped that this new virus would disappear like SARS virus before. If that had happened even the lockdown promoters would have said how successful their approach was. Unfortunately, the virus survived everywhere and it is now seasonal. Look at the European situation. All countries start tyhe seasonal wave at the same time in almost all countries whether being in LD,half LD or no lock down. No SD,masks, nothing can be done against this virus. Our whole approach is falling like a house of cards.If we had followed all guidelines from 2019 we should stop all mass testing, quarantaine, SD,masks and just increase hospital capacity, stay home if sick and pay full sick leave and just go back to normal life
https://twitter.com/henrik_ullum/status/1319157496720785410
From one of the co-authors of Danish mask study
“As one of the co-authors I can inform you that we are very unhappy about the delay of our study. We never anticipated this delay. The peer review process is important to secure correct scientific conclusions for this sensitive research question.”
Pal review is a Groupthink shocker.
This obsession with peer review, which has clearly been co-opted as a belief management system in so many fields, is very disturbing. It hasn’t worked as it was originally intended for years, and is obsolete in the Internet era.
The gold standard is now replication, not it’s been read by my mates.
Scottish scientific advisors call a family xmas this year “a fiction” and to get ready for a “digital celebration”.
Quite apart from the casual way that is delivered, this as usual displays all the bedside manner and awareness of mental health issues as Lord Voldemort.
When are they gonna appreciate the emotional damage this is all doing to close families?
Well said.
They don’t care what damage they are doing. I am starting to believe that they are actually automatons, as it is hard to believe that people could be this callous. Well, the last part of my sentence isn’t strictly true I suppose as man has committed atrocities against man since time began. These lockdowns however will be shown to be inhumane and deadly, it is just a matter of how much damage will be inflicted before they end.
Psychopath’s in government are not unusual
Pretty sure by Xmas the whole thing will be ignored, their stupid laws brought into disrepute, the Police not getting involved and the Covid marshals gone AWOL.
It will happen if enough people get angry enough. We have enough anger here already to blow Scotland apart.
“Scottish scientific advisors call a family xmas this year “a fiction””
fiction -> Christmas
Novel -> Coronavirus
Mask hypocrite scumbags around the world
2. America’s Gary Lineker, Chris Cuomo
Tucker Carlson: The curious case of Chris Cuomo, mask hypocrite
Cuomo told the world that he had the coronavirus and that he was self-isolating. He was seen out and was challenged. He threatened to beat up the old man who had challenged him. He subsequently came out of his pretend self-isolation on television.
Funny how these lefty media celebs get to keep their jobs no matter how low they sink, whereas actual intellectual achievers like Starkey get sacked from everything they’ve actually earned and deserved over their lifetime, for a minor triviality of political incorrectness.
Hi all.
One of my housemates attempted suicide last night. They are OK now but it was incredibly distressing to witness. I am sure it is not the only problem but they said the last few months and lockdown had been extremely difficult.
I was not following the rules anyway, but I am now not even bothering to care. Boris and co have completely ruined my generation and should be given the harshest punishments possible. I really hope they’re happy about this.
So sorry to hear this, NCG. I had the same experience 20+ years ago and it still pops into my head often. I am so glad your housemate did not succeed in their attempt but I know how viscerally shocking something like this is for everyone around the person. Sending you all my empathy. I share your righteous anger and disgust with what is being done to our generation of young adults and I will never forgive or forget it
Thank you.
I’m an oldie and I’m going to catch fire soon! The suffering inflicted on young people like you is despicable and I would never,ever,ask for, or demand, anything which would deprive a younger person of a fair chance.
I do sincerely hope that your buddy will recover and that he or she will be given appropriate treatment and attention.
Many years ago, in the depths of despair and anguish, I tried it and received no support ; instead I went back to work the following day and hid the wounds for many years.
Young people are our future and they’re being cruelly and unjustifiably misused, misled and criminally mistreated.
I’m ashamed
Hope your buddy get’s through this. The anger everywhere is now at fever pitch.
I’m in my 60s with co-morbidities so supposedly vulnerable but I never wished any of this crap for you or your generation.
Fortunately you will have a long time to punish those bringing this upon you. Never forget. If you are not familiar with the Nuremberg Trials look them up; “I was only following the science” is not a good enough excuse.
Yes, this is one of the things keeping me optimistic. I’m young with my whole life ahead of me – that’s a lot of time to see these evil bastards brought to justice.
I’m getting old, but I am confident that I too will see justice done while I’m still agile enough to dance on the bastards’ graves.
that is worrying .. i know it can be difficult for those first years in
prisonhalls but i thought those now in shared houses were in a better place. But it happens. My elder daughter had a similar thing with a friend at uni a few years ago… students do have problems and lockdown wont helpSo sorry to hear this but very glad they’re OK. Have they got any parents/family who could possibly come and pick them up? Not that restrictions matter anyway especially in this dreadful case but if the family are worried about being snitched on/fined, picking up the student would be legal as it would be to avoid risk of injury or harm.
It really is awful. I keep hearing more and more anecdotal reports of suicide but because they’re anecdotal, they’re just not reported in the news as a numerical figure like the Covid ‘deaths’ are.
The people running us truly are the sickest and most twisted fucks to think that the total destruction of the young generation is an acceptable price to pay for stopping what is now a seasonal endemic disease with a 99.9% survival rate that almost exclusively picks off the elderly and weak.
I’m glad to see that they’re okay now. Our day will come, I’m sure of it.
Nemesis is a patient goddess, but she is inexorable. The guilty will be punished.
All sympathy to you and your housemate.
Anger. Anger has kicked in again.
Next door neighbour went in hospital for another operation following recurring attacks from thyroid cancer. This time it is inoperable, main tumour is attached to the trachea.
Her daughter lives across the street. We are tier 3. They are
1) not allowed in each other’s houses
2) not even allowed to meet in a garden
3) cant have a meal together
4) can meet in a park but better not hug.
Oh and you can live out what may be remaining of your life under this idiot induced shitstorm. No holidays, no social life, no fun. No visits from friends, only person allowed to comfort you is your husband.
And according to the Home Secretary, I’M the one who is supposed to police this shit.
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
I’m back in needing new swear words territory.
Try the Italian ‘basta’: means everything from ‘enough already!’ to ‘shut the f*ck up & f*ck off’
Can’t do any of that in the minuscule off chance they might have Covid and might in the even more minuscule possibility have symptoms and even less likely event that they happen to pass it on. What a shit show. Sorry to read that sorry. Best wishes to them
It’s disgusting. Could his daughter not either say she’s his cleaner or visit him as a vulnerable person needing care?
Would that the daughter tell those that ask to mind their own fucking business and dare the Covid Stasi to take her to court.
It’s very simple. She needs to go in to the house with a ‘black lives matter’ t-shirt on at all times.
The only thing I can suggest is the obvious one – just do what comes naturally and makes sense and f. the ‘rules’.
But I appreciate that this does require a willingness and ability to dispense with the programmed shackles that have been imposed by the propaganda storm.
Oh, I’m pretty sure they wont comply, and I certainly wont be reporting anybody. But some people adhere to this shit – and they know this when they make these fucking stupid rules.
Conversation on some snowflake board I occasionally troll on, about walking the dog whilst in self isolation. A few thought it would be OK to take the mutt for a short comfort walk in t(e middle of the night when no-one was around. The resident nurse comes on and says “what if you fell and broke your ankle, or had a heart attack, someone would have to come to your aid and risk catching Covid”. But one could fall down the steps at home, or have a heart attack at home and lie dying on the kitchen floor, surely? Well according to the nurse (nurse!), that would be preferable to falling ill outside because you couldn’t pass on Covid. I gave up.
We’re past the point of winning the argument – that will come. There must be justice and, ugly word as it is, there must be revenge.
The people who supported lockdowns – in government and the public – must be told and told again about the harm they did. They must be pilloried and shamed. When it is over and the truth is out, they need to be made to pay.
The horse?
” I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.”
Revelation 6:8:
The company we keep.
Evening Standard reports a man in Spiderman costume climbing scaffolding near Parliament with a large banner.
Top of his concerns is Tier 3 Lockdown
alongside BLM XR and LGBGQ&etc.
Well we are a big tent st LS.
I don’t know. That banner clearly says “all lives matter”, and all the Good People tell us that’s the sure sign of a White Supremacist Racist Bigot.
I mean, yes he wrote “black +” before it, but isn’t that just trying to cover up? Clearly he’s a Crypto-White Supremacist Racist Bigot.
Hope Spider-man falls off
@Toby – has anyone thought about starting a petition on the Gov website to force the NHS (a public sector organisation funded by the taxpayer) to release data in the interest of public transparency/accountability? (I’m no longer a UK resident managed to get out during lockdown and sadly watch my homeland crumble in the hands of inept doomsdayers and unelected scientific advisors)
I hope this 30 secclip does some good:
Patrick Henningsen @21WIRE
Chairman Dan @DanielAndrewsMP
is in trouble now. The totalitarian firewall in Melbourne has been breached, Australia’s COVID NewNormal Lockdown regime in jeopardy after Victoria Police announced protesting is a human right
https://twitter.com/21WIRE/status/1319228119514042368?s=20
I get “something went wrong , try again”. This isn’t the first time that a link to twitter has done this -has the tweet been censored?
Me too, keep getting that
Still there!
I am getting that a lot now accessing Simon Dolan and Patrick Henningsen. There are long winded work arounds via other tweets posted on other accounts.
I believe it is a form of intended censorship. This is not a login in to twitter matter. Simply viewing tweets is being prevented.
Reload the page, rather than hitting try again
Works for me…wonderful news. Sick of seeing Andrews smug face
Good glad to hear.
Happens for pretty much every Twitter link I click on but refreshing the page fixes it for me
Another day in the glorious National Socialist Federation of Britain.
The Ministry of truth informs me that our exalted leader,surrounded by his team of provincial governors and intelligent,truthful and caring professors and scientists,is still working 26 hours a day,9 days a week to save us from the deadly foreign invader virus.
I have heard that specially chosen citizens from my town are to be taken,by train,to a new better life working on farms in the ‘east’.They have been told not to take anything with them as they will be provided with everything they need on arrival,their homes and possessions will be carefully looked after by the state.What’s even better is the new vaccine they will be given at the end of the journey,it will stop them from getting ill,from anything,forever.
I must go,the transport to my 18 hour shift in the Uranium mine will soon be here,I don’t want to be late again and lose my milk and salt ration.If I work really hard for the next 10 years I might be promoted to work in the underground rocket factory.
Make sure to write a good book about it and get expelled to America on your release.
Eurasia has always been at war with Covidia.
Reminds me of Philip K Dick’s novel the Penultimate Truth.
“The story is set in a future where the bulk of humanity is kept in large underground shelters. The people are told that World War III is being fought above them, when in reality the war ended years ago.”
Had a good weekend. At church we sang “Happy Birthday” to a member who was 80 the next day and stayed behind for individually wrapped cakes. (We are still banned from singing hymns, but I do quietly).
I “celebrated” the new restrictions by inviting a friend round. We had a nice walk. The neighbours spotted us but no problems. People behaved normally while we were out and my friend stopped to talk to various folk with dogs. No sign of any masks in the great outdoors.
My new cleaning lady hasn’t fled unlike the previous one. She says she puts a mask on just to come in in case anyone spots her. She told me someone she knows is ill in hospital through mask wearing.
Is singing banned??
I believe all public singing is banned
They are SO frightened of this song …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOHV6-E9eeA
I feel like standing outside Broadcasting House and singing Land of Hope and Glory
To misquote the rugby song “Why were they born so beautiful,why were they born at all, they’re no f××king use to anyone, they’re no f××king use at all”
would be more appropriate.
I went to a holiday camp at the weekend and they had live music, which I was surprised about. Some of the acts had not played publicly since before lockdown.
Correct.
I still sing.
It’s not as simple as that. One singer in the north ok, two singers bad. 6 singers in the south okay. Those details refer to indoor ‘laws’ from about three weeks ago.
As previously added to comments, one funeral I know of the congregation chanted hymns. They were told off afterwards by the funeral wokers. Chanting is not singing.
It is advised not to sing, but as far as I am aware, it is not (yet) against the law. If like-minded groups of people wanted to get together to sing, they could and they should!
We are allowed to have a couple of people at the front singing the hymns with masks on, the congregation is supposed to just listen or read the words.
That is in response to the guidance.
The law is as Ruth has said.
My church is singing albeit quietly and at fewer points in the service.
I’m glad you had a good weekend. I no longer attend church, as my main pleasure was singing in the choir for choral Evensong, which is now banned; I also refuse to attend any public gathering where masks are mandated. Church nowadays must look like a Quaker meeting held in an operating theatre.
Rather, it looks like a deleted rush from The Mummy.
And so the nursing home disaster begins again in Ireland:
Majority of residents and most staff at Galway nursing home have Covid
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1022/1173211-nursing-home-coronavirus/
“….. One resident at the home has died. Two others are being admitted to hospital today after their conditions deteriorated.
By 10pm on Tuesday night, when the results for all tests came back, 25 out of 27 residents were found to be Covid-19 positive.
The virus has also severely impacted on staff at the facility, with in the region of ten care staff and seven nurses infected.
All have gone into isolation to reduce the further spread of the virus. As a result, the nursing home is operating with a massively reduced number of staff today. At present, just one nurse and one health care worker are on duty, along with some ancillary staff at the premises.”
Emergency support has ben requested and is awaited..
The evidence that this was and is, an enormous elderly care problem, is overwhelming.
But how many have the flu? Or pneumonia? Are they testing for that when people come in with Covid-19? That wasn’t done in the UK.
Eight months to get care homes sorted out and this is what they’ve achieved. No doubt any deaths caused by their inhuman indifference will be used to justify the completely unnecessary shut down of the country and to scare the sheep. Worked a treat the first time. They are vermin.
When you get those kind of results you really need to be screening for infectious individuals. Cycle thresholds need to be set lower. These people need cared for andd isolating so many just creates an unsustainable situation
Everybody in a nursing home should be a prophylactic course of HCQ.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/martin-bashir-coronavirus-bbc-journalist-covid-princess-diana-b1219812.html
Expect the BBC to go into extreme fear porn peddling mode now one of their own is seriously ill with “coronavirus complications”
would it be in bad taste to snigger quietly?
No…but you need to wear a mask when doing so..& you must be doing a hand stand also. (Government rules..)
I’d like to think that even the BBC couldn’t be so tasteless as to exploit this story but we all know that isn’t true. I do note that he has lived with a brain tumour for 10 years that causes occasional health issues so that may be related.
we have seen how GMB have exploited that Garraway woman and her husband. BBC will have been jealous that they did not have a similar “special feature”
“How is John Humphreys looking today” “unfortunately very healthy”
Sad for the guy. But the independent never published anything about my work colleague who was 52 and died with Covid. They never said fuck all about that. I guess that’s because security officer does not count ? Or that a celebrity’s demise means the narrative continues
Calling Laurence Fox ! – there is most definitely a need for a “third way” in British politics..
I think he needs to dig into his £5M war chest and launch a campaign for truth to counter the propaganda
A new free newspaper (truthpaper!) has just launched – well worth supporting. You can download their first issue for free, or subscribe to receive their paper for £5 a month.
http://thelightpaper.co.uk/index.htm#
I can see the paper version of that catching on with the oldies, if they see it in their local newsagent, but sadly I suspect the mainstream papers will try to ban it in some way.
Masks:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/lP0oW4HYGufR/
The nonsensei s put to bed.
Video first published July 15th 2020 online (and studies there in many years prior). Seems the nonsense is not quite put to bed come October 22nd 2020. I’m sure the Danish RCT study will not put it to bed either.
As a matter of science ‘put to bed’
Getting the message out there is of course sonething else.
Long discussion on Talk Radio about children’s school meals.
It turns out children in this country are in danger of going hungry.
Maybe we should join the poor nations of the world in asking for international aid.
Perhaps we could launch an awareness campaign showing young British children with bloated tummies, playing despondently in the dirt. It might pull some heartstrings and motivate donations. Perhaps from people in China, who want to chip in to save the starving British children.
Or else lift all the restrictions. It is those that threaten to tip us into 3rd world status
We need international aid – send us a Swedish PM and set of public health officials and advisors who are acutally interested in, er, the health of the public…
I started out quite negative about the government feeding children, that poverty is usually associated with single parenthood, etc, i.e. agreeing with the host.
But then that woman with two young children came on, and she said that the government has taken people’s jobs away, it’s preventing them from working. She has a point. The level of poverty and destitution in this country is going to be at Dickensian levels.
Probably worse than Dickensian. Much much much bigger population now.
How many thousands of old people die each winter as it is from fuel poverty ?
Well it looks like Scotlands Health Advisor is making a bid to be the ghost of Christmas future so you might be right.
“The widespread use of cloth masks by healthcare workers may actually put them at increased risk of respiratory illness and viral infections and their global use should be discouraged, according to a UNSW study.
The results of the first randomized clinical trial (RCT) to study the efficacy of cloth masks were published in the journal BMJ Open.”
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150422121724.htm
But but but….masks = good. Face coverings = good. Boris = good. The world is flat.
off topic question .. is it possible to PM someone here via the site?
Via the forum if both registered.
cheers – hadnt noticed the icon
Alex Belfied YouTube is saying test and trace contractors are using non-medical trained staff to administer tests.
Yep. And I try time and again to point out that it isn’t the government that is driving all this, it’s actually the brain-dead, complacent idiots you’ve described that are the real danger to us all.
As far as I’m concerned those people are the enemy. Truly. They have no interest in listening to any other point of view, of actually engaging their minds with the problem at hand. They are flaccid, useless, dead weight.
One particular sinister aspect of this coup is the silencing of dissent by Silicon Valley tech companies. The censorship has now moved beyond the usual suspects YouTube, Facebook and Twitter to payment processors such as Paypal and bulk mailing applications such as MailChimp.
Tech startups which once supported free speech and freedom now seem to be at the forefront of the techno fascism taking hold worldwide. These people have really sold their souls to the devil.
Some alternative media providers have had their livings destroyed over a few months for upsetting the ministry of truth. https://www.bitchute.com/video/IqpNqcXEjidX/
They see regulation coming their way
Another reason why Trump is hated, because he is forcing social media platforms to decide whether they are publishing companies (and thus liable to the laws of libel, defamation etc) or merely ‘platforms’ (and thus prevented constitutionally from deplatforming people whose opinions they do not like).
This, unfortunately, isn’t new. It’s been growing since 2016 when the various big tech leaders swore to prevent Trump being elected again.
There have been several Senate hearings about big tech censorship but nothing concrete has been done to prevent it.
Merkel got the ball really rolling when she asked Zuckerberg to stop “misinformation” over the migrant crisis. Lots of other governments, including ours, then joined in. We’ve been headed towards a China-style censorship ever since. Now it’s overt and blatant. Let’s see if the Republican-majority Senate do anything more than a bit of scolding.
It’s also highlighted that the covid “crisis” is now political, not medical.
We all really should try to use and support the alternative platforms such as Bitchute, Brand New Tube and LBRY etc. Unfortunately, none are available as apps on TV’s making them harder to watch (I can see why Google etc paid to be on them now, all about creating a monopoly).
Governments consider any information embarrassing to them as ‘misinformation’ so we should be very worried. I hate to think what is going uncovered by the controlled media at the moment – they are willing to turn a blind eye to anything if it supports their agenda.
MailChimp has been on this trajectory for years. Some people lost all their newsletter subscriber details just because M’s need to censor the information – it was natural health, information on how to keep yourself healthy by using vitamin D etc
Barrack Obama, one of the great modern public speakers, is now stealing kids toys..
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ButThePolls?src=hashtag_click
Particularly bad this morning in Ludlow; Lockdown lackeys very much in the majority.
I take extreme pleasure when a “sheep” swerves away from me, I walk even closer, good fun.
PS: have fellow sceptics noticed that more and more ordinary shops have the NHS T&T app notice now?
Ludlow town council never did reply to my e-mail, not surprise there then.
I was born in Shropshire but lived most of my life in the black country where “on the whole” people are far more friendly.
My husband has done a counter-swerve – does make him feel better – and a little bit naughty!
Yes, I have done that a few times as well.
Isn’t Ludlow full of posh restaurants?
All dead and gone now?
Scottish hospitality going for the legal challenge too. Bring it on…
https://twitter.com/BenPhilip_/status/1319255265796116482
Excellent news. Combined with yesterday’s US court ruling of lockdowns as unconstitutional, it feels like we’re finally making some progress.
‘Lay hold on life, and it shall be/Thy joy and crown eternally’.
Link to that ruling?
Ask them to write to their MP and get an assurance that the vaccine won’t be mandatory.
I wrote to mine, and she refused to give me any such assurance.
I hope they are forced to be vaccinated and suffer the worst possible side effects. It is what they deserve.
As did I
*Sorry if this has been posted before:
Hysteria-Driven Non-Epidemics Have Near-Horizontal Trajectory.
Ivor Cummins—brilliant as usual— nails it entirely:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRu6Mgb49Uk
Glaring when he puts it like that
Apparently MacFishface has announced this lunchtime that Scotland will be in lockdown indefinitely and Scottish people should prepare for a digital Christmas. To any other sceptics in Scotland, how much does it take to rile the Scottish people into some sort of action against this dictatorship?
It’s a shared nonsense : we have a daughter in Scotland, and we are in this totally barmy Yorkshire lock-up.
… and I don’t know an answer to your question of what it takes to jolt people out of their quiescent acceptance into a realization that they are being taken for a ride.
Our daughter is in Yorkshire – managed to see her briefly over the summer.
As for the rest – I know there are more sceptics now, where I live, which is encouraging.
I’m actually wondering, if it is a bit like the referendum, ie the silent majority, but because of the nastiness of the SNP, people just kept their heads down.
Unfortunately, this time, I don’t see how we can not avoid making a fuss if anything is to change.
Here’s a good way to vox pop people’s thoughts. Dating sites.
Sign up. Mention lockups covids whatever. Won’t get you an unneeded and impossible anyway date but it will tell you all you need to know. People are not believing a word of their lies any longer. There remains legacy confusions about what is the best thing to do. Part of the ‘thawing’ process I should say.
Well, at least Scotland are paying for it. Oops! Forgot!
We are living in an SNPolice state, with no escape route in sight.
She’s still hypnotising the masses, unfortunately, although many restaurateurs are now up in arms, as their businesses collapse.
People. You get what you vote for.
A digital Christmas. How middle class does this woman think her country is ?
What a wanker.
So how long till Boris follows suit?
Meanwhile here in Sweden they are lifting the limit on gatherings at seated events to 300 from Nov. 1st – in spite of case numbers going up…
My guess is Boris will, with great magnanimity, announce that on Christmas Day, Corona regulations will be lifted to allow groups of up to perhaps 12 to meet indoors. By then we will probably all be under Tier 3 repression, and the average person will be humbly grateful to Boris for ‘saving Christmas’.
My family want me to book a flight to visit at Christmas – but I fear it could be wasted money…
I see wee Krankpot has allowed Santa to be classed as an essential worker
I live in Scotland with family in England. My dad is late 70s and Christmas is his favourite time of year. How things have ‘crept’ so far is terrifying. If they’d announced ‘Christmas is cancelled’ in March there would have been rioting. Truly worrying times.
I fail to see how they can police it though? Unless they intend to bring in the army to drag illegal family members away from the dinner table in front of the children..?? I wouldn’t put it past them.
If you’ve read The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe you will remember the scene where the Witch comes across a party enjoying a Christmas feast, and turns the lot of them to stone with one swipe of her wand.
Interesting. Their support for lockdown is based on their belief that it will achieve other things they would like to achieve, unrelated to covid. In other words, they actually endorse the basis of some of the ‘conspiracy theories’.
I haven’t come across anyone like this in person yet, thankfully. I think people seriously frightened of covid are actually preferable to people like this, at least genuine coronaphobes are honest in what they are trying to achieve, albeit misguided.
actually, it is quite clear and explains exactly how the count is made …
And given the fact that everything else they tell us is unclear, ambiguous and meaningless, i wish more of the procedure was explained in this way.
These views are very common. They are used by people who have struggled to reconcile the covid horror show with what they “kind of” believe in. They have struggled to justify the insanity and these talking points are the best thing they can come up with. It’s lazy thinking. The easiest route to cognitive equilibrium.
Two of my “OLD” mates are like this. Incredible hearing them come out with this kind of crap. I never thought they were that “stupid”.
I think my old mates are just that now. You lot are more my mates than any of them. Turns put i never had anything in common with them after all those years.
Don’t be too rash.. give them time. The way I look at it is, if I had cut everyone (family neighbours etc) out of my life who was a covid scam believer, I would have been even more isolated.. some of them are cominbg round.
Just found out today that one of my university modules actually requires me to attend my hellhole campus at least once for a group presentation. So my soul will not only be crushed a entire flock of muzzled sheep but also have to work with some. Fucking hell, I want to see as LITTLE of this world as possible thank you, but no, won’t it be hilarous trying to make me engage with it. Thanks for depressing me even further guys.
Try and make it a positive. It will be an opportunity for you to sway a few over from the dark side.
Update us on here as the day goes on. You’ll find only encouraging people and words to spur you on
just been in my local Sainsburys, strepsils, lemsip and even nurofen on discount. No reductions on Vitamin D
Will they make Vitamin D precription-only?
Nothing would surprise me – literally nothing.
It’s gonna be a controlled substance, 17 years for intent to supply.
I believe they have restricted access to supplements in some countries due to Codex Alimentarius.
That has been going on to some extent for years..
I think it may depend on the extent to which they manage to force vaccines on people…
It is available on prescription, in a maxium dose of 400IU I think due to over-exaggerated concerns regarding overdose. I’ve gone as high as 50,000IU per day for weeks with no ill-effect. You make maybe 20,000IU in an hour on a sunny day with exposed skin. In Iran when they imposed full coverings for women MS incidents rose amongst the women. Google ‘Iran women 1960’s’ to see how free Iranian women were before the revolution. D3 is best consumed with K2. I learned recently that you can get a suntan behind glass but not make vitamin D3. UVA passes through glass.. UVB (needed for D3) does not….
Great question.
Vitamin D2 is on prescription. It is synthetic and not very well absorbed by the body. Vitamin D3 (well absorbed) able to buy in shops.
Please Don’t buy supplements from supermarkets, they are full of unnecessary fillers and very low dose. You might think it is cheap compared to other brands but when you calculate per dose (RDA), it is actually very expensive. Look for a good online health shop or your local health shop.
Example: the RDA (Recommended Daily Allowance) for vitamin C is around 40mg per day, that is just enough to prevent scurvy (this dose also recommended by NHS). For good health supplement at least 1,000mg of vitamin C per day.
Many people eat processed foods that are devoid of nutrients and as such you might need to supplement higher doses. Many prescribed drugs are also known to rob the body of nutrients.
See Book for lots more information: Drug Muggers by Suzy Cohen
Best stuff is in Holland and Barrett and they have quite a few sales on at short notice – buy one, get one half price or even buy one, get one for penny.
Their Vit C 1000 mg and rosehips big 500 tablet jars is good.
Delivery has been really good from their website as well.
I buy my sups online. My preferred brands are bulk powders, phoenix nutrition, redwells, peak supps, pure source and Lindens.
Bulk powder Vit C powder is greta for making a quick isotonic drink.
My protein got some good stuff on as well.
The H&B timed release vitamin C is good!
Thanks for the advice-Boots selection was pretty poor
The Delingpod October 22, 2020
Dr Mike Yeadon
https://delingpole.podbean.com/
https://thecritic.co.uk/a-timely-warning-from-history/
Another timely offering from The Critis
Hi,
Please could Dr Mike Yeadon respond to this rebuttal to his Covid Marie Celestes article.
Doesn’t do credibility any favours true.
https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/18808008.coronavirus-conspiracy-claims-nevill-hall-untrue/?fbclid=IwAR3ZiBA1vT94LxzEyt8M3hEFMgPhpic1YJ1qTuEn5JdL76mzdXXX2UKWmLM
Thanks
They used the word “utilised” a bit too often
I totally said that aloud a la John Cleese…
Whilst i`m no fan of Donald Trump – i struggle to understand how Biden and Harris can possibly be in the running to win the US Election when literally there are only a handful of people (staffers ?!) turn up and attend their “meet n greets”.. It looks like a Spinal Tap in-store record signing session !
It’s being fixed and stolen – only explanation.
Will be interesting to see how tonight’s ‘debate’ goes – especially in the light of today’s NY post with more corroborating evidence regarding the laptop.. Also Ghislaine Maxwell documents being released..
Hopefully Andrew will be on FBI’s most wanted.
Manipulated polls herd opinion and voting habits. Thus if they say Biden to win, some Trump voters might not vote thinking it is fruitless. If they say remain will win, brexiteers are encouraged to stay at home or even vote remain. Also some responders tend to give what they think are the most acceptable answers when polled e.g. shy tories.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-09-20-timeline-of-events-sep-20-to-jan-20.html
US – Likely TIMELINE of events to take place from Sep. 20 to Jan. 21, covering vaccines, SCOTUS, Election Day, markets, terrorism and insurrection
https://twitter.com/cjtruth/status/1315379710831009792
See here where no one turned up at a Biden/Harris rally..
Trump will win landslide election and build back the soon tanked US & world economy. People will believe the world is a better place as restrictions will ease.
Government control will gain and freedoms will continue to be lost. Same shit different day.
Hope so – he would seem to be the only one standing between us and China’s total world domination… with all that that would mean..
Although he seems to be the better of two evils, I believe it will end up the same way. The system knows Trump is a better front man to stimulate the economy after the fall.
If you live in Scotland and are angry about having Xmas cancelled, then don’t worry because your Government cares about you.
Just had a poke about on https://clearyourhead.scot/ which contains helpful tips on how to look after each other. I cherry picked a few puke-inducing bits:
“We still need to keep a safe distance from people. But even the smallest of friendly gestures can make a difference to how we feel. Simply smiling or saying ‘hello’ from the other side of the street could help lift both your spirits.”
“If you’re feeling arty, you could make face coverings to safely share with neighbours or friends.”
“If your friends or family are happy to meet up, why not meet for a picnic in the park or a coffee outside – hopefully in the sun!”
“Maybe move gradually towards meeting up if you can, perhaps sharing a walk together in open spaces. And don’t worry, it’s ok to take your time to feel comfortable before meeting up with more people.”
Remember, Nippy loves you all!
What about flashing your tits or doing a moony?
Great suggestion – send to the PR agency clearyourhead@leith.co.uk
If you’re feeling arty, you could make face coverings to safely share with neighbours or friends.”
Or
If you are a totally deluded prat you can make an unsanitary face covering which is of no use whatsoever and give that your your neighbours and friends, for no reason other than to virtue signal and get an uptick on your social media profiles.
“Remember to test it for efficacy first by wearing yourself for a few hours before gifting it to your friend – sharing is caring!”
And hang it on your rear view mirror as you take it to your friend’s house.
And this will allow you to remain part of the in group, not having to think for yourself or take ownership of your relationships. You can be a true follower.
Your a brave person venturing on that site!
Patronisingly creepy SNP horseshit!
As for a picnic in the sun: it’s the Scottish autumn, so my advice to the composers of this crap would be to stick it where the sun doesn’t shine.
Imagine: made redundant, mounting debts, holiday cancelled with no refund, unable to see dentist or doctor, children not doing well at school, family tensions, dreading years of unemployment and alienation, fighting off anger and despair, but a smiley greeting from a safe distance will lift your spirits.
The scottish police were out in spring with mrgaphones telling scottish people not to sit in parks as “this is not a holiday”. I have the memory and the photograph.
Heard on the radio in the car this morning (supposed to have been the automatic traffic announcement): Male health official from Scotland confirming that Christmas will not be normal, Christmas will be digital.
Wonder what is meant by digital?
No family gatherings is likely what is meant..
Will Covid wombles be out checking? Or will they be spending Christmas with their families?
Means give ’em two fingers.
Who the hell can write in such a faux caring whisper voice, creepy stuff indeed.
“If your friends or family are happy to meet up, why not meet for a picnic in the park or a coffee outside – hopefully in the sun!”
The Sun? In Scotland? In winter?
Are they having a fucking laugh?
In Gulag Wales, from tomorrow evening we can’t meet out of doors.
At all.
Up to then, 30 of us can meet out of doors, because the risk of outdoor transmission is ‘negligible’.
Follow the science folks!
PS. I am going to weave some arty hemp nooses to hang Dripfeed and his henchmen in. You are welcome to share.
Regarding “reply this week from their MP, Kelly Tolhurst”
can you spell “comma splice”?
She’s taken the official response and spliced in some fluffy shite.
Serious question.. are they intending to kill some of us off as part of their great reset?
I am wondering this too. Maybe its far fetched but do you think the constant mask wearing compliance could lead eventually to deaths?
The suicides, delayed cancer diagnosis before its too late to treat, e.t.c. the list goes on.
Poverty is the biggest killer by far!!
+ poverty = modern day slavery.
I definitely think they want to kill as many as possible, by neglect as well as design..
See those giant stones in the US (think they are called something like ‘guidestones’?) where they say how many (or rather few) people the world population should comprise..
The Georgia Guidestones.
https://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-the-georgia-guidestones/
A war of attrition.
I don’t much believe in the Great Reset as an explicit objective of the UK government, but our government has certainly killed plenty off already.
I don’t believe it either and yet there are things happening around us which certainly support that narrative.
Billy Gates great Eugenics project.
If so, likely will be HCG (anti-fertility) in the vaccines as found elsewhere. That way no mass murder but only a generation away from massive population reduction.
Exactly… Have read that it will be 7 years before people realise what has been done to their children…
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9083611/
What is the point of linking to a 23 year old study of ‘Phase I safety trials in 47 women with elective tubal ligation; Phase II efficacy studies in 148 proven fertile women (2 children), sexually active, desirous of family planning’? Women have always sought reliable, reversible methods of contraception?
Yep, look at Georgia Guidestones, Agenda 21/2030 and with these read what it means, not the nicely flowery lovey dovey what is says.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgP0Khlh6rs
A video about the guidestones – start watching at 1.57 in, where it says ‘human depopulation’..
Also check our “Report from Iron Mountain”, and Codex Alimentarius
Forgot the Codex, that is pretty scary.
No. We all die. We will die when it’s time. We won’t be murdered. Just will live with broken hearts and a longing of better. That’s our punishment. Even if a “great reset” is not immediately the aim.
Yes. Look at the blurb on the back of Stanly Johnson’s book about population, where it mentions killing people if they cannot stop the number of people being born..
I’m convinced the virus was engineered to be more dangerous to the elderly, and Gates has form when it comes to adding sterilising agents to vaccines. Note that they want to vaccinate elderly and children first…
The Virus is a distraction from the “new age” of technology, the threat level can be adjusted and the population controlled. The world is looking at serious reform or revolt. Interesting times.
But why you would you target the elderly if your long-term goal is population reduction? Surely it would make more sense to target people of breeding age?
Financial – fewer pensions to pay. Can invest the money saved in other things. Also the elderly tend not to be so into AI/tech, which is supposed to be ‘the future’… A lot of older people own their homes, and the new agenda does not want people to own any property…
The vaccines with sterilising agents will reduce the numbers being born.
But aged 80 ish.. especially in a care home.. those owned homes have either already been stolen by the state or given to children?
Obviously yes. But not all elderly live in care homes and those who do will be getting a pension.
Lots of older people dying at home due to not wanting to go to hospital (dying of other things than Covid). Mask-wearing will likely endanger a lot of elderly who are more likely to comply with the rules out of fear.
Pensioners anf the immuno-compromised sre effectively creditors of the current unviable socialsystems.
THey are very expensive, getting ever more expensive, and evr more numerous as the boomers retire.
A die-off amongst the old and vulnearble would clearly help the system survive a little longer.
Everybody’s been looking at death rates. It will be interesting to see what happens to birth rates.
The last of the pre-Covid conceptions will be morn mid-December. fter that it will become clear.
All I know is I’ve got 3 new grandchildren coming in November, December and January ,like London buses been waiting for years then 3 come along at once !
Excellent.
But if you wanted to control population surely you would focus on China, India and Africa? Africa’s population has trebled from some 500M at the time of LiveAid to almost 1.5B today.
Bill Gates has been busy in Africa.India seems to be fully signed up to the Corona scam and China’s population is set to fall massively due to the one child policy
Bill Gate and his cohorts have been – research Kenya and the infertility in females who had his vaccine.
I think it’s not so much kill people directly but maybe reduce the population by making it difficult to form and maintain relationships. Denying young people the chance to socialise and meet potential partners. Creating such a dystopian world people become increasingly isolated and even those in relationships don’t want to bring children into the world. When I was in my 20s I didn’t know any one of my contemporaries who had serious mental health problems but I know so many of my son’s contemporaries and the children of friends (age range 18-30) who are being treated for anxiety/depression. Pleasant kids in their 20s, desperately lonely yet never been in a relationship. Something is going terribly wrong we have reared a generation with very little resilience.
I do think this is an extremely good reason to hang around and piss them off, just in case. Wouldn’t want to risk them getting the upper hand!
Highlight of my day – phoned a colleague to ask a work related question and we got chatting about the current corona crap, turns out they are a fellow sceptic, we were finishing one another sentences and stats and they have also signed the GBD! Reckons if this continues much longer there will be proper angry protests in the streets, people are beginning to get really fed up now. Would have chatted longer but had work to get on with. I never got to ask him about this site but hello if you are here :-).
Anyway hurrah for another likeminded NORMAL human being!
I suspect most of my colleagues are on the other side. I know some are for sure, and others on our side. It’s awkward to explore sometimes, especially now that we’re all at home. Harder to drop in casual remarks. I don’t like talking politics at work because it leads to tears before bedtime, but I would at least like to know which other sceptics there are so we can keep in touch.
Yes it’s awkward to approach the subject not knowing what viewpoint the other person has!
Yes I find myself skirting around the subject until I can work out which “side” they’re on. The thing is the lockdown zealots usually blurt out their beliefs as if they are facts and assume you agree with them!
Just ask what fabric his/her mask is.
LOL good one
Just point out unless its N95 mask its worse than useless and poses a serious health risk to them, hypoxia, impetigo, mask mouth, permenant irreversable brain damage
Even a n95 is not as effective as people think, especially versus viruses.
Granted, its only useless, but do the mask wearing zombies really care?
How can we convince them they also need to wear swimming goggles, to protect thier eyes and stay safe! Interested to see just how many would actually do it!
Had a new boiler fitted this week. The plumber and his apprentice: normal people, no masks. The electrician woc cam the next day to complete the wiring: arrived wearing masks, was happy when I told him he didn’t need to. The ‘registered engineer’ who came today to sign it off: mask. gloves, kept them on the whole time despite my telling him no need.
Finally watched the Unherd interview with Piers Morgan. He was insufferable as ever.
By his own admission Piers Morgan knew about illegal voicemail hacking years before it became a public scandal – and he did nothing about it. Though he was a national newspaper editor at the time he did not expose it. Nor did he alert the police, Nor did he take any steps to ensure it didn’t happen at his paper. He just turned a blind eye.
He deserves no public platform whatsoever.
Being on the opposite side of an argument to Piers Moron is one of my life affirming certainties. The man should be in prison.
Lord Haw Haw springs to mind
Morgan is a paradox and shows the worst case of cognitive dissonance I have seen. He has been on Radio stations plugging his book about the WOKE agenda. His is basically saying that the WOKE agenda is trying to take away our free speech, free thought and democracy. Yip, Piers, with you 100% there, these people should be stopped at all costs. However, here comes the cognitive dissonance, he is 100% percent behind lockdowns, calls people who have challenged the government narrative dangerous and named them conspiracy theorists. Called out demonstrators who have demonstrated in London who are fighting for democracy idiots.
Piers wants the end of the woke culture that is stopping free speech etc, However, he has been one of the worst in the media, demanding more lockdowns and more invasions on our democracy. Words fail me, a paradox indeed.
Freddie Sayers must have the patience of a saint to stay so polite with him.
As someone both old and with health issues (cancer amongst them) I am beginning to despair. I want to enjoy what is left of my life but this year I’ve had more stress thrust upon me than even cancer caused me. I can’t sleep and can’t manage to even eat a meal. Fear of Covid-19? Nope. I’ve lived through flu outbreaks just as virulent without even being aware of them. Apparently, over 40k died in 2017/8 (I think) although the figures have miraculously changed to 26k. Where did the extra 14k go? Over 50k died in 1976/7 although I was having too good a time to remember! I isolated in March and April as it seemed the correct course but now I know we’ve been played. I ignore it as much as I can by not wearing a muzzle although I hate myself for wearing an ‘exempt’ lanyard. So that people don’t attack me and try to ‘shame’ me the current Mr C does wear a mask. I refuse to enter tearooms etc with these idiotic rules, we can’t do weekend breaks etc so our lives are at a standstill. What are we waiting for? Police state? Enforced vaccination? They’d have to drag me out screaming! Medical care has ceased and I cannot even get a hip replacement privately as the wonderful NHS (I worked for them and would never applaud them knowing what I do) have commandeered the private sector facilities even though they’re not being used. I read of illegally awarded contracts making millions for some people. I read with horror that Dido Harding is married to John Penrose. Penrose sits on the advisory board of the think tank ‘1828’, which calls for the NHS to be replaced by an insurance system and for Public Health England to be scrapped. Surely this is a conflict of interest? I would rather know if this really is something sinister which means the end of our liberty as these lies are causing more lives to be lost by the deliberate culling of the old and the sick. Is this the plan? I am full of utter contempt that the public honestly believe the ‘protect the NHS’ (the very people supposed to protect us) and ‘protect the elderly’ mantra when we are, in fact, being left to suffer and die. It’s deliberate culling.
I hope Jolyon Maugham knows that info about Dido Harding’s husband? Never been a fan of Jolyon, but he is at least taking the government to court for not putting contracts out to tender and just giving them to their mates…
All I can say is please try to have hope – there have been a lot of encouraging signs recently. Just today I have heard of several – the Liverpool civil disobedience campaign has been successful, with all gyms in the UK allowed to remain open. The police in Australia have declared anti-lockdown protests to be lawful. A judge in Pennsylvania has ruled lockdown to be unconstitutional. Hoteliers in Scotland are sueing the Scottish ‘government’ in a major class action. Please don’t despair, as I do think the tide is beginning to turn.
That is great news. All the best to them
Indeed.
Before the bollox started, we were contemplating spending Christmas at a wonderful hotel in Kintyre. I hope they are in on this action and will be ready for us in 2021.
As much as I am pleased that the police in Victoria are saying that, the job of the police is to enforce the law not decide it.
Since when have we relied on the police to decide what is legal?
And since when has the police had the authority to enforce the unreasonable ? Police by consent infers a need to find common ground. If the measure being enforced is unreasonable then by default it must not be enforced.
Good point. In some ways, it just reinforces the idea of a police state if the police think they can pronounce what can and can’t be done. But in my experience, sadly, most people in common-law states don’t understand that, as Sir Robert Peel put it, ‘the police are the people and the people are the police’. They think they are some sort of uniformed, armed branch of the government.
“As someone both old and with health issues (cancer amongst them) ….I want to enjoy what is left of my life but this year I’ve had more stress thrust upon me than even cancer caused me.”
Snap.
… and if I hear any more about ‘the vulnerable’ ‘being protected’, somebody might get a mask stuffed where the sun don’t shine. We don’t take f.ing sugar (nor shit), nor do we need ‘protecting’ from a gone virus. We will assess our own risks – and take them as appropriate, rather than relish the imprisonment of the young whilst being deprived of an important part of their lives,. or the even younger being subjected to child abuse by the enforcement of mask wearing.
Stop using us as a f.ing excuse for a power grab.
… and remember that many of us have been around far too long to be taken in by Scary Fairy stories – and a lot have also had decades of experience looking at and analysing numbers, such that we know a con when we see one.
We’re also old enough to be ashamed at what is going on, having been in touch with those previous generations who faced much worse odds – so don’t go sticking a red poppy underneath your mask. It’s an insult to real suffering.
… and don’t tell me what the ‘rules’ are. I really don’t give a stuff, and resent every minute of this new Stasiland dictatorship.
Thanks for your spirited words. I feel exactly the same but there seems to be no end in sight I can feel the spirit draining fro me day by day. I live in a smallish town where we are called Covidiots by the Stasi and the vast majority seem to believe the bullshit. I posted on a local forum and was told by some charmer that he ‘wouldn’t give me the steam off his piss’ and I even had a couple of vile pm’s telling me to ‘hurry up and die’. Not sure this is a world I want to live in. I am also certain that BLM and the ‘Woke’ (for want of a better term) have taken advantage or is it all part of the same plan? I ignore as much as I can but it’s hard when your once friendly neighbour now ignores you and your best friend of over 40 years blocks you. Division seems to be part of it all but I would love to know what ‘it’ is!
It’s just that a lot of people are zombie arseholes. Always were, but the current bollox has flushed them out. And I mean flushed.
Jettison them.It’s liberating.
AND KEEP OFF SOCIAL MEDIA.THAT’S LESSON ONE.
Post of the day. Thank you.
I think it all happened so quickly that people didnt have time to realise what was going on. It does seem to be changing now. I understand you,feel the same, won’t even enter premises where they mention face masks, closes a lot off to us, but so be it, I just won;t be part of the scam.
Having worked hard all our lives we are unable to enjoy what’s left of our retirement or even spend the money we worked hard to save for this purpose. I am now terrified that our bank accounts will be plundered or our freedom restricted even further. To have your life on hold and be in perpetual fear is no way to live. I am certain the stress will kill many of us. Those who are elderly and living alone must feel one accident or illness away from the culling homes – whoops- I mean ‘care homes’. We cannot elect for euthanasia, but they can put us in isolation, refuse us any medical care and then cull us. All in the name of ‘protection’.
Am i being very pedantic when wondering precisely what the BBC mean when they say Martin Bashir is ‘seriously unwell’? How does that differ from being seriously ill?
Isn’t it just ‘unwell’ said with a frowny face?
[Anti BBC cynic mode set to 11]
Have they actually found someone?
I don’t care. I am sorry for him and his family. But frankly put people get ill, People die. Just because he is Bashir means what exactly ?
I didn’t see the BBC saying anything about my uncle who passed away at 44 for no obvious reason. Or my grandad at 46 or my aunt at 39….or any of the millions of children who die each year or the…….
Bollocks to the BBC. Illness and death is a part of life, and their reporting is making it a central part of life and that’s ridiculous.
Used to mean ‘has a hangover’, didn’t it?
I read the piece by the Oxford University student and it restored – a little, since it is but one person – my faith in our students and their ability to think critically. It is, as one would hope form an Oxford undergrad, wonderfully written and expressive. I was struck by one prescient observation about secondary schooling. Students are asked to think critically, observes our author, but this is just covering verbiage. Students are in reality encouraged to do what they are told in schools, to obey authority, to adhere to the current norms of “acceptable” thought and speech, and to put “safety’ before risk. It is an odd and ever widening gap, between a meaningless injunction (“think critically”) and the actuality. Thank-you for reminding us, sage of Oxford!
Great post.
A comment about the isolated press conferences by the untrustables. In part a reflection on reading some snp bull**** about how one snp had a meeting with another over the telephone – a ‘telephone call’ to all non shysters.
It has now been created as a norm that ‘journalists’ are now ‘present’ at press conferences remotely. This is done for health reasons we are told. But who does this new senario benefit? The untrustables.
It is obviously true that the hermetically sealed of politicians being viewed from a single webcam viewpoint whilst making speeches and answering questions is not advantageous to openess, truth, honesty, etc.
Notes, directions and corrections will all be being placed outside of camera view. Aides writing on black boards, researchers googling facts – it can all be happening out of shot. Perhaps ear pieces can now be used since no in-the-room scrutinty is offered.
Why not two or so socially distanced ‘journalists? Or, alternatively, why has it not become the norm to offer the speakers view looking back onto the webcam and the virtual audience? A small inset screen in a top corner could verify if this is Jackboot Johnson’s thoughts or those of his handlers.
The established practice as it is now is wide open to corruption.
Wouldn’t a politician have sent out a social media picture of their view of this press conference ritual by now? We’ve had unwanted selfie pictures from hair salons forced into the public sphere as proof of we all suffer together.
This webcam procedure has developed unnoticed and is blatantly opaque.
Long Covid – The new scam
Minister of Death was on about this just yesterday..
Will be interesting to see in a few years time how accepting the benefits system is of claims for disability because of long covid? Somehow I suspect the government may come to rue their promotion of this.
Not helped by the number of muppets claiming they have had covid.
Yeah. I hate that. I remember first Monday a few days after lockdown we had a Skype meeting and someone reported (20 something Brixton loving upper middle class twat) Rebecca has caught Covid and she was “really ill” Three days later another Skype call. Who crops up fully recovered and bright as a daisy ? Yep…….
World is full of people who want the attention. Hero’s who beat the bug.
Long lockdown and masking is much worse and much more destructive.
What they call “Long Covid” is in no way a unique side effect of a viral infection. People are affected in different ways, we have different physiologies, its normal and for those affected its unpleasant and debilitating.
It took me six weeks of aches, pains and exhaustion to get over the flu.
I didn’t realise what an epic I was living through.
Should be no surprise to our media hacks that if Covid makes you unwell and you end up in hospital, it’s going to take a long while to recover. Covid is not “just” a virus of the lungs. It affects by binding to ACE2 receptors and they can be found on most (all ?) major organs.
So the media worthy surprise is, why are you surprised ? Ultimately, 86% of people are not significantly affected and won’t get “long Covid” fact. Move on. Go Ask why 30,000 old people die of the cold each winter and why, generally no one gives a fuck.
For those who missed it.. Sir Kier Obama Starmer is on the trilateral commission (Rockerfeller). His jousting with Boris is theatre.
It’s so obvious, he’s not even a good actor.
Son’s primary school has just confirmed, no nativity or carol service this year. Father Christmas will not be coming to distribute presents as normal but they will hold some Christmas- like activities in the last week.
Christmas cards must be handed in during the first week of December for isolation over the weekend, they will then be sorted by staff and placed in plastic envelopes before being given out to children once all risk has passed.
I feel that once again children are being robbed of all that makes childhood so special.
Tragic and also, pathetic.
Its really sad…..first no trick or treating on Halloween (although I am hoping the kids round my way still do it, but I would say parents are afraid of neighbours snitching) and now this, My son is 2.5 and first year of really knowing the magic of Christmas but it wont be the same. Hoping we can still get some magic of it for him.
Barking.
Subvert the rules. What are they going to do? Suspend a tiny child for handing a Christmas card directly to their best friend? They only get away with it because people go along with it. If you aren’t prepared to subvert it then don’t participate at all.
Schools seem to be revelling in all this shit. I hope the children survive it.
What the heck is a ‘Christmas-like’ activity?
And who decides when ‘all risk has passed’ and that cards can be given out? Will that be *after* Christmas?
Seriously, do they think people quarantine their post at home for days before opening it?
I’m guessing singing any carols is out of the question…?
Totally out of the question, think of the risk!. They can’t even sing happy birthday, it has to be spoken. It used to be lovely to hear the singing coming from the school, almost every lesson, certainly in the infants, would involve a song, that is how children learn.
What is going on in schools has to be experienced to be believed. I have a child in secondary and that is even worse.
Seriously do the kids say the words to the Happy Birthday song now??
Yes, singing is banned. But my son asked today if they could hum Happy birthday to their friend as he didn’t think just saying it was enough and that was allowed. Obviously he knows it is all madness but i worry for the children who don’t get deprogrammed at home, what is it doing to them…
Evidence of transmission of virus by singing in a school setting ? None.
Evidence of harm from not being able to sing in school – not sure, but suspect it’s more than none.
Therefore their risk reduction measure has created greater risk. Point this out and point out the legal ramifications of implementing measures that cause harm.
Ask for the risk assessment that identified Christmas cards as a transmission risk.
Good suggestion for Foxglove (the OP) to do!
You are right to feel robbed. Childhood is limited. And a whole years of life experience has been unreasonably extracted from your memories. Please write to your MP, make your sense of discord obvious on social media and NEVER EVER FORGET. they are robbing your family of living life itself.
Also, do not feel you are unable to tell the school some home truths such as; Transmission via paper is unheard of. You can do a nativity fine and either broadcast it or film it and pass the DVD to kids parents. And Santa does not actually need to breach social distancing, it’s fine to turn up at least and show some joy in life.
Oh and ask the school for a copy of their risk assessment or task risk assessment and where it says that the immediate danger is x y or z and their measure reduces the risk, point out that their risk reduction method has to benefit without harm……trap them by logic.
Frankly, your school is run by absolutely pathetic see you next Tuesday people.
Sorry you have to deal with this. Be strong.
Thanks for that, actually i think i will challenge them on the nativity. They are terrified of the singing that is what is driving this.They haven’t even considered how they might adjust and adapt. The head teacher is very very risk averse and very difficult to reason with.
My MP is sick of hearing from me.
Why do they need to be placed in plastic envelopes if “all risk has passed”?
And this deadly contagion won’t be spread by the person filling the plastic envelope?
I assume they will wear gloves and a mask. Seriously though i think the teachers are really pleased with themselves for devising this system.
My sons school field is over my back fence. They had the reception class out on the field doing daily mile when I was hanging out the washing. Nearly climbed the fence when I heard the TA telling 2 five year Olds they weren’t allowed to touch each other.
Fortunately the Barnsley five year Olds gave her a look somewhat equivalent to I don’t give a sod, and took no notice.
Private Criminal Prosecution for every MP who voted for the coronavirus act. You may see mass resignations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9pm3Z6nFnk&feature=youtu.be
… or not, as the more likely case may be.
Let’s see..
Its a shame all our police forces choose to turn a blind eye to the biggest crimes in the nations history.
They are active collaborators.
Reminds me of the awful accounts of Reichskristallnacht. When the police are on the side of the thugs.
Great link thanks. I have also posted above with a short summary
Thanks, really helps.
Bit of a mixed morning.
8th dystopian dental appointment – hopefully the last now for 6 months.
Afterwards needed to get some glasses fixed. Standing outside the opticians – as we unwashed arent allowed in without eye appointment – someone I hadn’t seen for a very long time walked by with his daughter, and said hello and was I ok and coping.
After yesterday’s awful news of the 4 babies in Oz (which I cannot get out of my head), the fact that my youngest says (again) last night that she doesn’t want to be here any more, and the whole silliness of not being able to walk into the optician when I needed to, unfortunately this was quite bad timing unbeknownst to him, and I’m afraid I broke down in the street. Just couldn’t control it. It felt sort of like seeing someone for the first time when you are grieving.
So it all came out.
However, good news is that he is completely in agreement – although not read all the things that we are reading on here. He had looked at a lot of data and not worked out why the panic, and he has seen the Kary Mullis vid 2 days ago. I am hoping to be able to open his world up to a whole lot more, but it really helped to have 1 more person that I know I can talk to.
Also i have now hugged 5 people I shouldn’t have done in less than a week.
Hugs are a good thing!!!!
Sending virtual hugs your way! I love hugs. I hope your youngest feels brighter soon.
Nothing beats a good hug,especially these days,keep at it !.
The Stone Roses singer Ian Brown is back on form and is most definitely a full blooded raging sceptic judging by his latest tweets.
He’s spot on. Wide awake.
Lyrics on his latest tune https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOHn6KurHE0
Yes. No fear from him.
About time for another Dominic Frisby song now I feel..
Dont mess with Barnsley. Local outlet social media post.
“Permission to come out for a drink. Our substantial meal deal. 1 menu item + 6 drinks for £35. You’re welcome!!”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1q82twrdr0U
Helpful to at least give some idea of what the link is when posting, to save people clicking on stuff they have already seen
Sorry – it’s Do you hear the people sing?’ From Les Mis. Cheesy I know but captures the spirit and the refrain of ‘ voices of angry men’ that ‘we shall not be slaves again’ is uplifting . Sent it to my daughter as she can leave her self isolation room at Uni at midnight tonight!
If the West End ever comes back Les Mis will be first on my list to see again. Just thinking about that music sends a shiver down my spine.
I sang a medley of songs from the show in a ships choir on Britannia a couple of years ago on a cruise we were on – highlight of my trip!!!
Just been out and about in Central London. A lot of business lunches seem to be taking place…lol
UK Parliament: Public Vote of No Confidence in the current Tory Government – Sign the Petition
This government has failed the people.
It has failed to protect lives during the COVID pandemic: the highest death toll in Europe; encouraging easing lockdown with the highest daily deaths; using care homes as death camps for the elderly
And if this is not enough they also heap injury upon injury by failing to protect the economy and jobs, with an insistence on leaving the EU with or without a deal at the end of this year.
Money is pouring out of the Exchequer into the businesses and coffers of their cronies;they penalise disadvantaged pupils with their GCE, and possibly also their GCSE grading algorithm; and all the while stay away on holidays when they should be in Parliament dealing with the shambles they have created.
Now they are prepared to break international law, and give themselves power to override domestic laws.
This is a rogue government working against its own people – incompetent and highly dangerous.
It needs to go.
https://www.change.org/p/uk-parliament-public-vote-of-no-confidence-in-the-current-tory-government?recruiter=26281600&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_term=psf_combo_share_initial&recruited_by_id=1a483630-c954-012f-9eb0-40401fa5e37a
Just for clarity, is this petition suggesing lockdowns were eased too early, and should have been maintained? Is it actually pro-lockdown?
I hate this government as much as anyone, and regret I voted for them, certainly the blond pig, but I would vote against them because of their over-reaction to the Covid threat and their move to authoritarianism, not because they didn’t go far enough or because I want to see Brexit cancelled.
This is cognitive dissonance. People find it hard to believe what they know and hold true is all wrong. When I first started to realise about the seedy underbelly of our “elite” I found it hard to believe too. But after a while when you see evidence and corroborate that what you hoped wasn’t true is true, you come round.
Mr A thinks I’m off track, he doesn’t get it yet either so I keep my own counsel. I see my place as someone who keeps the truth who will be there to comfort and explain to people I know what the real position is when they can’t deny it any more. Patience.
For some you just can’t make them see it, it has to hit them square in the face. It’s defence because they don’t want to believe it, it’s too uncomfortable to contemplate.
This is getting silly now.
Mentioning people wearing a Gimp-Gag has got me a twitter ban.
Where will it end..
They wouldn’t do it if they weren’t afraid.
They know that by banning and shadow banning twitter becomes a toxic brand, adding to its demise. There has been an increase of social media censorship, they calculate there is a problem to their social engineering goals.
A multinational feels afraid of two words and a hyphen.
Not that I ever used it but isn’t clear now that Twitter has reached it’s natural conclusion and needs to be wound up.
Yes!
Twitter is a sort of bum hole where thoughts go to die. I’ve never really seen the appeal to be honest.
Twitter is a sewer.
Do they allow muzzle or is that banned too?. I see that free speech is alive and well then!.
Have you been in Waterstones recently? Apart from not taking cash, and being told about the policy as you walk through the door, they WILL NOT touch anything you’ve touched! Take a book to the checkout – “could you turn it over so that I can scan the barcode, please”. Okay. Present Waterstones card. “Could you just flip it over so that I can scan it”. I walked out, leaving the book I was about to purchase for them to deal with. I assume they put on rubber gloves before placing it back on the shelf.
As we know, most bat flu precautions go far too far, but with Waterstones you’re in a different league. I wonder which tosspot, or committee of management tosspots, came up with this theatre.
Honestly, companies like Watestones deserve to die. Caffe Nero also refuse cash so have lost customers and are on the brink !! good riddance
Absolutely agree. Always striking how poor the range off books has been at waterstones over the years at times you can all most feel a censor in opperation. Support local independents – books are an adventure not what waterstones presents.
Unfortunately round here – Teesside – it’s either Waterstones, WHS or nothing.
Yes, and paper cups. I was in there yesterday. An oldish chap came in, followed a couple of minutes later by a mate of his. When the operative realised they knew each other she said “sorry but you can’t sit together if you’re not from the same household, you’ll have to sit in the conservatory”. They seemed to ignore her and sat at the same table anyway. I sat in the window watching the dreary street scene; at least 40% of people muzzled outside. I then called the fake number I’d given them for T&T. Bugger me! Someone answered. I’ll have to sort out some other number.
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-telecoms-and-internet/information-for-industry/numbering/numbers-for-drama
alternatively I have a lot of sim cards that came with a phone that I have never used because I just put the old sim in. Legit numer issued but never used.
We are living in a country which has completely lost the plot. I went to buy some perfume and didn’t realise that you can’t pick up and try a tester yourself, you have to get the assistant to do it!. What the hell is that about?. We can go into a supermarket and pick up and put down what we like, most of us are still alive, although I do have to pinch myself now and again to make sure I haven’t died and gone to hell.
I buy all my my books from abebooks and Amazon. Any qualms about Amazon’s tax dodging are long gone. I won’t go to a shop to be treated literally like dirt.
Can we have this guy for PM please?
https://www.desmondswaynemp.com/ds-blog/ask-a-silly-question/
Maybe not PM. But certainly his belief in liberty to warming the cockles.
It is not for the scientists to weigh-up those costs, their expertise is confined to the question that they were asked -how to stop the spread.
Rather, it is for the Government to make the assessment as to whether the cost and damage is worth the candle.
So, those politicians who are now insisting that we should just do what the scientists are telling us, including the Leader of the Opposition, have fundamentally misunderstood the nature of the advice and their own proper role in weighing it up.
Furthermore, they equally fail to appreciate that there is a growing body of scientists and clinicians who believe that the strategy is the wrong one. The great Barrington Declaration, which gives voice to this growing dissent, has -as I write- been signed by 26,000 clinicians and 10,000 medical and public health scientists.
The resistance is growing in Parliament too: 88 MPs voted against the 10 o’clock hospitality curfew this week.
Most dissent comes however, from within the governing party itself. This is because the coronavirus strategy has been particularly difficult for Conservatives like myself, for whom the belief that individuals make better decisions for themselves, their families and their communities than the state can make for them, is a core value.
As Winston Churchill summed it up ‘trust the people’.
Desmond Swayne MP Con
Entirely agree.
It is indeed for the politicians to decide. That’s where the buck stops.
?But …
“It is not for the scientists to weigh-up those costs”
Yes it is. Cost/Benefit analysis is part of assessing any measures, whether in medicine or wider areas of policy. You may require a different set of skills to do this – but that’s fine in the wider context, where a mixture of specialist expertise can be applied
Part of the political role is to ensure that it is done.
The belief in individual autonomy wherever possible is not, by the way, a particularly ‘conservative’ idea.
There’s a bit more at the beginning that gives extra context.
The blog post is called Ask A Silly Question and comes after criticism of SAGE saying their advice was ignored. Desmond’s take – it wasnt ignored. It was rejected as too costly.
Please share and let’s try and connect the students to legal assistance
Simon Dolan #KBF
@simondolan
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If anyone knows this kids please ask them to get in touch with me.
Four STUDENTS are fined £10,000 EACH after hosting house party
https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1319226502072946688?s=20
Daily Telegraph has lots of articles praising Rishi Sunak with headlines such as ‘Rishi Sunak opens his chequebook for a more generous job support scheme’ . Don’t journalist realise the government is just getting the Bank of England to print a few more billion to keep the slaves happy? No doubt it will buy many people off for another 6 months – freedom is easily sacrificed.
It is our tax money
Where did the money come in the first place to pay the tax?
It appears that the money will only run out when the ink does.
There’s no ink. It’s just numbers on the Bank of England balance sheet, which is all that money is.
Therefore it can’t run out.
Rishi Sunak actually has that guy from The Inbetweeners trapped in side his body. The one who narrates. It’s the same voice and the same sense.
He’s being set up as the first ethnic PM. The puppeteers want that first. Still.. at least he isn’t married to a trans like Barry. Not that I mind.. just despise dishonesty.
Sorry.. what I meant to say was it doesn’t matter who you vote for, someone like Goldman Sachs always gets in.
Globalist puppet.
Exactly – an ex banker too.
No thanks!
What with him and Khan you would also think the UK was a majority ethnic country…
NHS: another 152 deaths in hospitals (doesn’t say if they died OF Covid-19).
Looks like flu season is here; if this year’s flu season is bad, this country is completely fucked.
It shouldn’t be – the southern hemisphere didnt get it bad and that usually gives us a heads up
There are some trains of thought that the flu has just been replaced by Covid in a lot of countries.
Not arguing with you, by the way.
Re-brand – Re-package-Re-market
Well yes – that too this year. Maybe I missed the point – wouldnt be the first time!
Looking at it optimistically, anyone who is carried off with Covid would probably have succumbed to the flu anyway in previous years, so might not make much difference in the end.
It will make a difference to how long the government gets away with this crap. They need “covid deaths” desperately.
Can’t disagree with that. Ivor Cummins video showed that to be true; not a bad flu season in 19/20, Covid just slurped up all the ‘dry tinder’.
Even Ferguson told the Health Committee that a lot of the Covid victims in the ‘first wave’ were people who would have died in a matter of months, anyway.
Flu, at the very least, is competing with Covid for the dry tinder and has led to a 97% collapse globally.
Many theories as to why that has happened but we can say it’s got bugger all to do with masks.
I suspect hospitalisations of flu and pnuemonia are also being labelled covid. Either on entry or shortly afterwards when they have been infected on the wards. If they die they are then labelled covid deaths whether or not that pushed them over. Flu gets pushed out of the stats.
In the NI data the flu and Covid paper showed that 96% of people being labelled as Covid coming in weren’t then tested for flu. So Covid was presumed rather than falsified.
So true!
My Labour MP has finally responded to my multiple emails. It contains this remarkable statement:
I am concerned at what many perceive to be an overall strategic approach taken by the Government in response to the pandemic that is about “flattening the curve” by suppressing the pandemic instead of pursuing a “Zero Covid” strategy to entirely eliminate transmission of the virus nationwide. There is evidence that many of the countries which are now seeing comparably low levels of community transmission of the virus, and consequently have been able to limit the economic damage of the pandemic, pursued this strategy of elimination and rapidly responded to localised outbreaks through an effective Test, Track & Trace system.
What a birdbrain
Can he explain to you how this works?
It doesn’t even work in NZ where they have very few cases
In the UK where there are thousands it is a dangerous fantasy, not even recommended by the WHO pandemic playbook
He/she is a cretin.
A clear example of someone who thinks they understand it but hasn’t got the faintest clue.
Your average member of parliament. Partly explains why we are in this mess. IMO.
Word salad!
Check out the Faroe Islands. They test more people per head than anyone else in the world.
Zero Covid is an election strapline.
With a population of 50,000 (therabouts) that’s do-able
This fake-PCR test freakademic has miles to go before it croaks.
Whatever happened to that “Eat out to help spread the virus and kill granny” scheme?
It killed all the grannies, going by the daily death figure..
Oh wait..it was underlying health issues that killed them, not the virus or eat out to kill your granny scheme
The US is in free fall. This was occurring long before Covid Mania was engineered but now it is moving with great velocity.
The collapse started in 2008 and attempts to salvage this Leviathan have been failures only delaying the inevitable. Fast forward to 2019 and the crisis began to unravel again. There was a dramatic decrease in industrial production and then showed up in the banking crisis of August of 2019- the so-called Repo crisis when suddenly banks started to refuse US sovereign debt instruments as collateral of overnight loans forcing the Federal Reserve to step in and basically print money to cover this massive shortage.
So by the time the “Corona virus” appeared the economy of the United States and many other Western countries were in full blown collapse.
The “Corona virus” has proven to be very useful (showed up just in time) by political leaders to mask (metaphor and reality) what was going on. The economic destruction that it is being blamed for is absolutely extraordinary.
Apologies if this has been covered already.
Will covid-19 vaccines save lives? Current trials aren’t designed to tell us
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037 – also covered here https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1022/1173108-covid-19-vaccine-effectiveness/
Key extracts (my emphasis):
Writing in the BMJ medical journal, associate editor Peter Doshi warned that not even the phase three trials under way in the race for a vaccine can prove their product will prevent people contracting Covid-19.
He said those hoping for a breakthrough to end the pandemic would be disappointed, with some vaccines likely to reduce the risk of Covid-19 infection by only 30%.
“None of the trials currently under way are designed to detect a reduction in any serious outcome such as hospital admissions, use of intensive care, or deaths,” he said.
“Nor are the vaccines being studied to determine whether they can interrupt transmission of the virus.”
Few if any current trials are designed to find out whether there is a benefit among the elderly, a key at-risk constituency.
Without enrolling frail and elderly volunteers in trials in sufficient numbers, Mr Doshi said “there can be little basis for assuming any benefit against hospitalisation or mortality“.
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SO, it looks increasingly like the promised vaccine isn’t going to be the exit from this. Therefore, are all Governments who are spinning out their COVID restrictions going to back-track and find another way out of all this? Or is it really going to be permanent?
Yes the emergency approvals are being tested on the basis of less than 100 people in both vaccinated and control groups per pharma. They all have a success target of 70% showing positive relief from headaches, coughs and mild nausea. More or less the same as paracetamol and cough medicine. This will then be rushed out by governments as the panacea of all things covid, and form the basis of travel/health passports etc.
Besides the positive effects being minimal ( if they pass this ridiculously low threshold) neither pharmas, governments or us will have any knowledge of side effects, thise won’t start to being seen until the phase 3 and phase 4 tests are over, 2-5 years.
Yes I get that. But if the vaccine is so ineffective how can it be used as a health passport – or am I missing something?
The “health passport” is the digital ID required for full government control of the population.
Sounds like they want the elderly to sign up for the trials ‘Without enrolling frail and elderly volunteers in trials in sufficient numbers’…
No thanks!
Serco head Rupert Soames seems a little bit rubbish at interviews. He comes across and you’re average man rattled, not a man in supreme control of all he surveys, and that is pretty much what he shoukd be.
https://twitter.com/StefSimanowitz/status/1319065914772422656?s=20
“Rupert Soames, CEO of #Serco insists itS “NHS test-&-trace”
In reality, its executive committee has just 1 public health expert & it is run by 2 private companies
Serco is one of them & this week its shares surged by 18%
Soames suggests mentioning this makes you an anti-vaxxer”
The link includes an angry little clip of an angry little man. Warning: Peston in view.
I’ve met a few CEOs in my time.
Mostly they are idiots, have no higher thinking capability and are in the position because of there connections and who they went to university with and so on.
Someone else actually runs the company. Once I got down a step to 2 the negotiations went well as they actually knew things.
Saw that Serco idiots interview, he’s only angry as he’s been found out how shit his company really is (and so is he) at actually running anything.
Quote about Shell from a while back – “it’s not Shell’s fault they make money” which sums it up really.
My Scottish blood kicked in today even though I’ve stay out of the place for 25 years except for when I had to for work and been ostracised by that side of the family who are druggies and professional unemployed and sent an e-mail to the political editor of the Scotsman newspaper Scott MacNab.
I sent him the questions that local councils and the NI Assembly say they have no evidence as an answer plus the BMA quote on masks and the idiocy of the way PCR tests are being used and ended with this:
“So it will be very interesting, if you decide to ask any of these questions and actually be an independent journalist and not a propaganda spouting mouthpiece, exactly what their science is to justify their actions in further imprisonment of the population and the on-going destruction of the Scottish economy.”
I know Rabbie Burns is a crap poet (the few years I had in Scotland they tried to get me to memorise the timid cowering beastie poem) and Braveheart was a crock of shit but someone has to try and help Biker to free the country or at least the Kingdom of Fife.
Where is he by the way? Not seen any rants from him today.
‘timid cowering beastie’
Burns foresaw the swervers, mask-wearers and curtain-twitchers,
but also that the plan will go awry.
“But, Mousie, thou art no thy-lane,
In proving foresight may be vain;
The best-laid schemes o’ mice an’ men
Gang aft agley,”
Wee sleekit, cowerin’, timorous zombie…
“Nicola Sturgeon’s public health adviser, Jason Leitch, warned that Scottish people to get their ‘digital Christmas ready’.”
Ho,ho feckin ho
I seen that earlier. How does some unelected mandarin get to tell enfranchised Scottish adults what we are ‘allowed’ to do at Christmas with our families?? Lol!! Someone is overplaying their hand and the mob will get angry when they realise who is to blame!
On the contrary, I think we should all look forward to a jolly day of festive fun where we can truly come together as a nation again – by donning our blue face paint and tartan Santa hats, and then proceeding to George Square on Christmas Day morn to burn Krankie and her wokescrotes in a giant Wickerman – sorry, yulelog – to cheer wirselves all up! It seems like a good way to rid Scotland of the devil’s curse, or whatever the technical medical name for it is these days. Medieval science will have medieval solutions.
The old ways are the best ways
And digital Hogmanay?
Picked up my daughter from school. Very upset as 2 boys had called her a granny killer -she is exempt from mask wearing. I seem to recall that harassment by the public has been endorsed as a policing strategy for the Covid restrictions. And this is the strategy in action. Old school bullying.
Get her to point them out to you tomorrow and give them both barrels, and there parents and her teachers for not keeping her safe.
Bully’s need to be afraid.
If you live in Central News area tell this woman:
liz.hannam@itv.com
They might even do a story on the harassment us unmuzzled face daily.
Well if is any help to her tell her this old Grandad also does not wear a mask and thinks that it is mask wearing and lockdowns that are killing Granny and Grandad. They are killing off the free world which we spent our lives cherishing and believing to be the birthright and joy of living in the UK. This used to be a land of proper science, imagination and inspiration and if those principles were applied school children would not have to wear snotty disease ridden rags on their faces and whole swathes of the country would not need to be locked down. Before they were locked down in tier 2 we used to go and stay with our twin 18 month old Grandsons in London, before we went both ourselves and they took care checked out health and all went fine, Granny and Grandad were not killed. If we felt we were particularly vulnerable we would take extra care which is what this country should do, use skill, innovation and imagination to protect the vulnerable and let the rest go free.
It is a respiratory disease with a penchant for melodrama but it is not the end of the world.
From Granny and Grandad – still living and doing fine.
Why don’t they ever ASK granny?
Want a few of us to come round and back you up when you give the school and the idiot parents shit?
More chance the masked kids spread more disease than your daughter
Official complaint time including letter to the MP. If you know a friendly solicitor fire off a legal letter as well. Even if your MP is a CU next Tuesday, once you have written to them they are legally bound to respond. I would go absolutely ballistic if that happened to my child.
Agree on a letter to the MP – this persecution is happening in his constituency and as a direct result of politicians making it acceptable to demonise non mask wearers. Why allow exemptions if you’re not going to defend those who use this protection. And when are our MOs going to have the courage to admit this mandate has no basis in good science. All in all a disgrace. And add to others my 80 year old mum absolutely hates masks – to the pint that it stops her venturing out – it’s the resultant loneliness that’s killing her. She would be the first to beat those boys with her walking stick!
I would email Toby as well, he might be able to put you in contact with helpful people.
Despicable but think where she’ll be in 10 years compared with these brainless gits. Really, the school should be setting an example by explaining that discriminating against those exempt from wearing masks is crass bullying – plain and simple. Rather than name call they should be encouraged to research the guidance.
Endorsed by the foul bitch Cressida Dick, the beloved of Brazilians everywhere.
Oi, Co op! How about you educate your ‘colleagues’ by showing them the clear, simple government guidance that applies to us ‘all together’?
Then fuck off a bit.
https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1319284242040254469
Yes, bloody Co-op. I despite these hectoring notices all over the place: “No mask, No service”. Okay, “No service, no business”. That one from the Co-op is particularly egregious. Boycott them and brief against them on social media.
Looking at the replies, that hasn’t gone down well.
We need to get these put up in shops: https://twitter.com/FiWassell/status/1319284625684885506/photo/1
Sign
In my village Co-op, only about half the staff wear masks and I haven’t been challenged yet.
They do owe the government a lot for letting their coke sniffing ervy Chairman off for all the Co-Op banks misdeeds. I dont shop at the Co-op if i can help it they are way to expensive compared to local supermarkets butt when I have too they never bother me aboutht his shit. The main problem aat the co-op re Covid is of their own maikng their are never enough staff on the chekc out so there are always loads of unhealthy wheezing drug addicts and cigarette smokers on walking sticks in the queue, I went today for milk the queue was a mile long so I went to mr singhs news and booze and got what i needed in 10 seconds
Just thinking of a name for pro-lockdown politicians if Bedwetter is off the menu. What about Cnuts – in reference to King Cnut and his efforts at tide turning?
currently listening to the PM briefing taking questions from the public. I’d love to see how Boris would react if they announced “we have question from Toby in Acton”
Or from many of us on here. God, I’d love just 5 minutes on live TV with Boris and/or Cock, or the gruesome twosome Unbalanced and Witless. So many questions
I’d just give them a basic maths fractions, percentages and probability test live. See how they get on.
We know Hancock has no idea what false positives mean. He should get Diane Abbott to explain it to him! I’d pay good money to see that!
At times I think a boxing ring would be a preferred venue for a meeting with Boris, Cockup and the Undynamic Duo.
My fists have a few searching questions to ask.
Ivor in Ireland:
“Why are you doing this”?
Sunetra from Oxford has a follow up
Does he realise he is now hated more than May?
Caught 30 seconds by a accident -boris waffling and did not string 2 words together before I could turn it over.
Now watching The Professionals and having beer – I wish I had my old 2.8 GL mark 2 Granada still. Brilliant car.
From a bunch of amateurs to a bunch of professionals, well done! Sweeney on next?
Yep – Sky channel 120.
Another Mark 2 Granada dose.
Wonderful.
Minder still on? I avoid tv nowadays – the good ones with Dennis waterman, although TBF he can’t act his way out of a paper bag.
That’s on in the afternoon’s I think.
Forces TV has some really old stuff on – no wonder they all go to the NAAFI to get drunk.
Weekend sit’s CHiPs, weekdays is Randall and Hopkirk Deceased.
Talking Pictures channel on freeview 81 has loads of old b and w films, some war films with good old dunkirk spirit! Also the old Robin Hood, William Tell and even Catweazle. series Nostalgias not what it used to be.
my old man had a Granada Mk 1 Ghia Coupe and then a Mk2 ghia . Just when i started driving – cracking car to borrow when you’re 17 !!!!!
Anybody here from Warrington? Uncle Matt is lining up a present for you.
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1319275124428656641
Not long until “We’re all in this together”.
See my comment above re cancer of the arsehole
Good comments.
The Asch conformity experiment.
Our mission is to puncture unanimity. Video- 4 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIh4MkcfJA
Interesting!
Yes, the post-war decades were full of this kind of research – usually sponsored by the military-intelligence organizations or marketing/advertsing departments of major corporates.
3:04 “When that unanimity is punctured, the group’s power is greatly reduced.”
Clip of Mary Fowler, 104.
https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1319274809767956480?s=20
“104-year-old care home resident begs to see her family again
Mary Fowler, a resident at a care home in Glenrothes, Fife, is pleading to be allowed to see her family again, with the 104-year-old saying the lack of contact is “cutting me to bits”.”
She also adds it is her right. Which it is.
I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again I truly hope there is a reckoning and all those complicit in this conspiracy get cancer of the arsehole
I agree, we must work through the current opression and continue on to see to it this cannot happen again.
Our older generation have long been silenced from public life – see bbc average presenter age etc*. It is a priviledge to have the opinions from other generations, I hope we hear more – they are most welcome and needed.
*come to that -also see Dayna McAlpine, 27, food and drink critic oddly writing all manner of establishment line covid19 reports for Edinburghlive. Writing with no perception of the oppressions – just glad to have a job and stability after a year of bitty employment.
Oral cancer for arse-mouthed Wanksock
They ARE arseholes, so the cancer will be pretty pervasive.
I wonder if some lawyer could take whoever’s is responsible to court for a breach of human rights. Prisoners can do that, why not imprisoned elderly?
‘Human rights’ lawyers appear like flies round jam whenever the government tries to deport some murderer or terrorist, why hasn’t one of them started a mass civil action against HMG over lockdown in care homes?
fuck her let her die on her own if it keeps me safe
i was trying out being a lockdown zealot here but it’s not very nice, think i’ll go see if i can break her out and take her for a fish tea
Don’t forget the spare lid for her.
I’ve just had very frustrating hour trying to get sense out of Sky tv’s call centre.I had an engineer visit today to change a satellite dish,he wouldn’t do it because it is on the chimney stack,of a bungalow !,’too high up,special team needed’.ffs!,I told him well bloody Sky put it there in the first place,without a ‘special team’.
Anyway,sorry,to get to my point !,the utter covid bollocks I have had to listen to and verbally agree to has really pissed me off.
Before the engineers will enter our house we must;
Clean the area,open all doors and windows,remove household items (wtf does that mean ?),remove pets and remain in a different room until they leave.The engineers will clean all areas they have worked in.
If these conditions cannot be met your work will not be undertaken.
Well I don’t bloody well think so,it is our house and your engineers are guests so who the bloody hell do you think you are telling us what to do.
I know a lot of companies say things like this but when their staff are at your house they act normally,Sky are different a lot of the engineers do stick to the ‘rules’.
Totally Mental. Cancel your sky sub, there is nothing on it that isn’t evil toxic crap anyway.
Change Estate Agents and explain why, or insist they only walk backwards in your presence.
I really don’t understand why anyone pays for BBC, Sky etc.
Seeing out the end of my contract,might aswell get the best picture fro a little while longer !.
We had a plumber in a few weeks ago,he turned up muzzled and I said he didn’t have to wear it on our behalf but he said ‘you can’t be too careful’.After a few minutes next to the hot water tank he asked if it was alright if he took it off !.He came back the next day and kept it on all of the time,so I thought please yourself,I couldn’t make out most of what he said though.
Too high on a bungalow!!, does he only do Wendy houses??
Yes,too high he said.They are now going to send a three man special access team in two weeks,I assume one to hold the ladder,one back-up ladder holder and one to do the job.
Crazoo, who’s going to change the lightbulb?
Are they saying you should go to a different room and leave the workmen alone?
Yes,apparently apart from letting them in and our I’m not supposed to have contact !.
Whose sodding house is it?
I had Sky come one day, their ladder wasn’t long enough to reach the dish.
I have a nice aluminium ladder, long enough, still almost new, told him he could use it.
He said he would love to but could not as it was not an approved Sky ladder – he explains that one of the other fitters did this and was promptly sacked from Sky (or as they are self-employed banned from doing any work for them) as he broke HSE rules.
As I know the working at height legislation etc etc told him this was crap and he agreed but as it is written into the contract that Sky approved ladders only to be used his hands were tied.
Idiocy with companies blaming HSE when it is nothing to do with that.
He did say he would give me the dish and I could swap them over,I said that I’ve got no problem going on the roof,I’ve done often enough to do repairs but i wasn’t going to do his job for him.
Removing ornaments and pets is quite sensible even in non Covid times. You don’t want Fluffy climbing their ladder or Fartybum chewing their toolbox ( our resident Fartybum always tries that). Other than that, it’s nonsense.
We had BT come to remove old telephone lines from our house. Refused to go on the scaffolding that had been professionally erected for other building work because he ‘had not been trained to walk on scaffolding boards with safety rails around it’. In the end, Mr TT went up to cut them down himself and the engineer then kindly agreed to take down at the pole they were attached to in the street, using a free-standing ladder to access!
Yep. Had this with BT during an aborted attempt to switch to their broadband 7 years ago. The OpenReach subbie firm they sent refused to do the necessary cabling as it entailed walking on the flat roof extension to our living room – they were not “flat roof trained”. We had 3 subsequent visits – each one ending the same way. In the end we cancelled and stayed with Virgin.
We had this in the summer – SkyQ box and new dish. Engineer said he couldn’t place his ladders safely – despite the fact previous dish was fitted by Sky in 1997! H&S regs on “working at height” have taken the precautionary principle so far that even the most basic tasks now have to be signed off. After a stand-off with him lasting 30 minutes and several phone calls he was approved to do it. I basically ignored all the other Covid shite – as it was one of the hottest days of the year we were out in the garden the whole time and every window in the house was open anyway. But I did make a point of telling him the his face nappy was going to cause him long term health problems and he seemed happy to follow my advice to remove it.
I bet engineers will not care about it.
I had commercial window cleaners who refused to clean the tall terrace doors by hand as they would have had to use a ladder. Changed window cleaner to a bloke and his brother immediately. It was a building on the High street, so we just went out one morning and talked to the guys doing High street windows.
Excellent result.
H&S paranoia and Wuhan lab flu paranoia have a lot in common.
Hundreds set to attend protest over Edinburgh University’s ‘mistreatment of students’ this weekend
Over 260 people are set to attend the demonstration in Bristo Square after students feel they have been ‘misled’.
Source is the usual LR EL.
Fuck the students, what about the mistreatment of the population?
Oh wait…they vast majority of the population have swallowed the government’s lies & fear mongering.
I live in that beautiful Yorkshire valley known as ‘Windy Wharfedale’. Out and about today I had reason to cross the bridge spanning the river. Boy was it windy. The wind got me thinking. When you consider all the ridiculous rules and mandates that the government have put in place, then retracted and then re introduced to the extent whereby most people are beginning to say ‘sod it’, I’m surprised that wind speed has never been taken into account.
On the basis that the ‘virus’ is airborne, flowing freely and at random infecting all and sundry, I would have thought that wind speed would be a factor. After all, if I am walking two meters behind someone with no wind how does two meters work out with a thirty mile an hour following wind? And believe me that’s not unusual for where I live. When it’s windy I would have thought that this cunning little virus would think all its birthdays had come at once as its spread would be enabled even more with no extra effort from the little blighter himself!
I propose that the government introduce an early warning system based on an audible siren triggered to go of at say fifteen miles an hour. This would give us all time to seek shelter and to stay at home until we an an audible ‘all clear’. Now where have we had a system like that before I ask myself?
But that’s sheer stupidity I here you say. In reply I would answer: is it any more ridiculous than the six person rule, the three tier system, the masks which are harmful to the wearers, bubbles, closing times at ten o’clock, retracting health care for those in desperate need, shops with screens, visors and access limits, and my personal favourite, the edict that you have to wear a mask to your table, where you can take it off, only to put it back on when you leave or visit the toilet.
If the ‘virus’ is airborne and air moves at different speeds, surely it would be only sensible to take this into account. After the last eight months of living through this unbelievable time in our history nothing comes as a surprise to me any more. Stand by for a Neil Ferguson warning about ‘high wind infection’ and don’t forget you read it here first.
Don’t give them ideas.
If I hear that siren it will be on your shoulders! I beg you to remove this post ASAP!!!!
Please please do not give them ideas! No it’s not any more ridiculous! I have loved everyone of your posts but this idea of yours scares me!!! Boris will love the idea of air raid sirens!
Sirens will sound whenever a positive case is identified in your area. When you hear the siren, you and your family must take cover in a covid-safe environment, and must not come out until a police constable or approved Covid Warden has directed you.
Is that return home or the nearest certified safe area?
Oh- nearest Covid Safe environment! ‘The new stay safe and eat scheme!’
This is a good idea but there is a need to allow for gusting. Suggestion is that all citizens will be issued with a hand held wind meter. This could then be linked to the test and trap app to allow more granular detection of infectious beings.
Or we could all war Deely-Boppers on our heads outside. When they start bouncing around too much, we go indoors.
This idea is developing fast! Would this not be worn on your head?
Farts will be illegal, obvs.
Does this mean that all legumes, sprouts, broccoli, cabbage etc. will be banned from shops and restaurants?
Gusting can be countered by disgusting. Zombies are good at that.
Get your Gucci hazmat suit, for those blustery autumn walks. Available from all designer outlets now
Harry from the responses there is good money to be made!
Steeve….Crikey! this idea really is gaining traction. Wondering now if it was a good idea to post this—-with this lot of shysters in power nothing is beyond them!
Ferguson IS a high wind infection.
Dear Sir Patrick Vallance
Regarding your chart ‘Time series of estimated R range for UK’ that you are rather fond of presenting, could you please answer the following:
Why does the X axis start at the rather unusual date of 17 April?
Why, if the R value was below 1 between 17 April and 21 August, did the initial national lockdown not end after three weeks, as was the original plan?
Yours, a Great Barrington supporter
Because of this:
CMO Chris Whitty on the 21st July 2020:
“If you look at the R, and the behaviours, quite a lot of the change that led to the R going below one occurred well before, or to some extent before, the 23rd (March), when the full lockdown started.”
You surely are not suggesting that the chart has been manipulated deliberately to portray a particular narrative?
Who me? Be that cynical and jaded?
As if?
Would they do that?
Heaven forbid.
I think it is a case that they have all got their heads well and truly stuck up their R’s rate. The R rate seems about as scientific as the Philosopher’s stone and depends to a significant extent on the input of opinion. Now that it seems that this disease spreads by ‘superspreaders you wonder if the R rate really counts for very much? It seems that for every 10 people who get this virus 9 hardly spread it at all while 1 spreads it to a huge extent and so it is down to whether that 1 super-spreader gets the opportunity to do that amount of infecting?
I posted on the previous update on the similarity between the R number and the Drake Equation
Criticism related to the Drake equation focuses not on the equation itself, but on the fact that the estimated values for several of its factors are highly conjectural, the combined multiplicative effect being that the uncertainty associated with any derived value is so large that the equation cannot be used to draw firm conclusions.
https://www.remove-the-tory-government.org
What’s the point, the opposition is at least as bad. SDP is the only anti-lockdown party and they are currently too small to be heard.
Agreed! Summed up beautifully here:
https://twitter.com/bobscartoons/status/1317525396393545730
Lockdown
Firebreak
Circuitbreakers
Superspreaders
Long Covid
Contagious
Asymptomatic
Isolation
Compliance
Infectious
Face masks
Cases Cases Cases….
So sick of these utter bollocks words!
You forgot bubble(s)
You also forgot Boris, Wankcock & El Presidente Sturgeon.
Covidiot is another irritation of mine a insult to those who can think for themselves it was dreamt up the compliant Lame stream media
……Social DISTANCING, The New Normal , Our amazing NHS, Hands, face, space….
Sick of it all.
Until this year, I thought ‘Pay and Display’ , ‘For your comfort and safety ‘ and ‘Rail Replacement Bus Service ‘ the most depressing phrases in the language.
How wrong was I!
New normal
Yes this and social distance, guidance and advice given on stupid conjured up oxymorons
Reset
“Stay safe”
Exponential
“Our” NHS
sorry Joe, not enough cases
& Furlough.
Had never heard of that until this bollocks started.
American word
‘Stay safe.’
I reach for my gun.
Unprecedented. You forgot unprecedented! Everything is fucking unprecedented!
Social Distancing’ is surely one of the most contradictory exasperating, erm slogans ever manufactured by cynical fuckers.
Defenceless women are beaten to the ground with long batons, then beaten again as they lie on the floor
Child victims of cancer are told to fuck off and die
Mass detention without trial
The economy trashed
People who have contact with their children and grandchildren face arrest
People sacked en masse with no means of support
Students fined 10k each for having a party
Phycological war and perverted science are deployed against the population
A ban on the freedom of movement
Suicides
The elderly are imprisoned, tortured and left to die
Bankruptcy
Homelessness and poverty
Nurses who should be caring for the sick spend the day dancing
All forms of enjoyment made illegal
Systematic child abuse
Democracy abolished
Then they call us selfish
North Korea is a bad bad place.
Thought that was in Victoria, Australia?
Or my geography failing me?
So I used to think before …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbMJoJ6i39k
New Delingpole – Yeadon
Listening to now – it’s excellent.
Effects of social isolation
https://www.sciencealert.com/isolation-has-profound-effects-on-the-human-body-and-brain-here-s-what-happens
Snippet:
“People who are lonely are also more susceptible to illness. Researchers found that a lonely person’s immune system responds differently to fighting viruses, making them more likely to develop an illness.”
Almost 2/3 of the country now under lockdown…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8868389/Stoke-Trent-Coventry-Slough-Tier-2-Saturday.html
National lockdown postcode by postcode.
A two week affair has crept into indefinite. In Rugby is the tevhnique called a Ruck or a Maul? Swamp confusion around the ball but keep it moving forward all the while.
I notice less use of the word incompetence than a month ago.
The gather all word, in rugby, for tackle/ ruck/ maul is the breakdown which sort of seems apposite…
Ruck- A pile on of bodies but where the ball is grounded.
Maul- A pile on of bodies but where the ball is held by a player moving forward(allowing for judderijg as the backs are sucked under the feet of the mighty forwards.
Scrum- an Organised pile on of bodies where the ball is fed into the mouth by the ….
Anyways, just remember the rugby is played by men with funny shaped balls
I therefore intended maul. Thanks for clarity!
Yes – this degree of uncorrected ‘incompetence’ stretches credulity beyond the possible.
It was never really incompetence, it was cowardice. They knew what the right thing to do was, but chickened out because it would have entailed having to defend their position and some degree of risk if too many people died
It was always the aim to lock down the whole country – they are only doing it by region (so supposedly more ‘proportional’ to the level of ‘threat’) to try and strengthen their case when Simon Dolan meets them in court…
That makes sense. How are things in Sweden, btw? Did they increase gatherings to 500 on the 16th after all?
It is increasing to 300 on the 1st November, for stuff with an audience or people seated where 1 metre distancing between groups is possible, but place like nightclubs will still be limited
But from what I understand there are no limits on private gatherings
Also they have removed their “guidance” to over-70s and the vulnerable and now give them the same advice as everyone else
Or with a view to having a death sentence commuted
Regional lockdowns also serve to deflect responsibility from central government to regional nonentities who can later be thrown to the wolves. They also make it harder for national civil disobedience movements to emerge, because nobody is quite sure what is going on in other parts of the country. (Divide and conquer).
Doing it bit by bit means not having Parliament debate a national lockdown, like they told the Tory rebels would happen. It’s not a national lockdown; it’s just the whole country shutdown but on a regional basis.
There was a cartoon predicting this (Bob Moran?) some while ago
I believe he did, J. His cartoons are fantastic! This killed me:
https://twitter.com/bobscartoons/status/1317525396393545730
Jesting about grave matters… fantastic!
My anxiety is so bad I am shaking. I’m using venlafaxine together with acetyl carnitine, inositol and glycine etc. But I am really struggling. With no end date in sight to this madness…
These are very hard times. Can you get out to see the autumn colours? I found that good for my mental health last weekend.Evil surrounds us but nature endures and is still beautiful.
That’s good advice. Also: walk a dog, ride a horse, watch a bird, hug a cat … feed a hedgehog…? Animals have more sense than zombies these days.
I should have added “Hug a cat” i’m doing that now.
I know it’s hard, but chin up and think of the old Yorkshire lady who’s calling it as it is. If all was lost, their non stop propaganda wouldn’t be necessary.
Marvellous Maureen
Now that’s something to hold on to – what a good point! And to CheshireCatSlave, we’ve just been out in the lovely High Peak, enjoying the stunning autumnal colours. We agree, it does help.
Also, it almost makes up for the near-100% slavish obedience to and compliance with muzzle-wearing in Morrisons. A few were taking the piss (muzzle round chin, barely-there scarf etc.) and there was a fellow bare-face in the toilets at the same time as me and another one leaving the store (lanyard) when we arrived.
And the genius virus is still at it: ‘Several teenage girls were wrapped round each other in the cafe, staring at each other’s phones and, of course, not a muzzle between them. MW
The Peak District is beautiful, some of my family came from there. I do my shopping online. Have done for years as I’m disabled but now it sounds a nightmare.
Try some CBD? It’s supposed to be good for anxiety.
We can all do little bits here and there to speed the end of this madness, even if it’s just making a few apposite comments on social media or writing to our MPs. If you go to pieces, you can’t do that kind of thing. It’s important to take a break from the lunacy though, so make sure you switch off your computer and spend some time doing other things.
I make and use thc tinctures and a drop under the tongue can ease the worries for me.
Just a suggestion, but EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques) could be helpful. It’s worth a try.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/06/11/coping-with-covid-19-related-stress.aspx
So sorry to hear this. Stay strong – we need you here and the truth will emerge eventually and freedom restored!
Has the pig dictator been on the TV?
What’s the point of moving from Tier 2 to Tier 3 in Manchester if infections aren’t rising?
Public: “Why do you want to keep doing this?”
Tories: “Money, power, control and money!”
Public: “You said ‘money’ twice!”
Tories: “We like money!”
With apologies to Blazing Saddles
Starmer : “And I’ll have a piece of that, too”
They do it because they can…
What’s the point in moving norther cities into higher levels of restrictions if positive tests aren’t going up?
got to do it quick before people notice
As for London – no rational point at all. Graphs even more absurd – merely illustrating the bollocks that comes from using PCR as a diagnostic test.
Is there a rational point to lockdowns anywhere or did I miss something?
(It’s OK, Rick, I know your views are similar to ours i.e. it’s not about a virus at all.) MW
What’s the point in putting London into Tier 2 if positive tests aren’t increasing?
I’ve been hammering on about this for a few weeks now, Nick. My post from yesterday:
London should never have been moved to Tier 2
What’s the point even if they are increasing? The absurdity of the graphs speak louder than words.
… but, of course, we know the answer – this isn’t about a gone virus at all.
Haven’t posted for a few days as have been spending some time in London – early half term start so thought we would see the museums whilst quiet. Have spent time in the City and reported back this is my postcard from Camden !! Firstly travelling anywhere now by car / Uber / black cab is a nightmare – roads closed off and new cycle lanes everywhere – and changing every day – it’s chaos and that’s with massively reduced traffic – as it’s currently configured there is just no way even 50% of the daily traffic that was there in February could move through. Closed businesses everywhere and even those that are open must be gasping for air to survive – Hamley’s yesterday there were more staff than customers. Italian restaurant by Natural History museum – Only two families in whole place and looked like owners now doing the waiting jobs – you sense the desperation. Forlorn looking cafe owners peering out from behind counters looking for customers. I have lived and worked here since 1996 it is as if the souls of the place has been sucked out. I just can’t see how it comes back anywhere near what it was before this in any reasonable time frame. We are leaving tomorrow a couple of days early – it’s just too depressing an environment to be in. It was far from perfect before but energy and vigour of the place always carried it through – it’s like 9am on a Sunday all day every day now. Johnson and Khan between them have destroyed it.
All the great cities appear to be succumbing to the insanity and having the life sucked out of them by the governments of the world. We are hours away from completing a deal (fingers crossed) on the sale of our condo in downtown Toronto (at a loss). Since I was there last, the gyms and indoor dining have been shut down again. I can barely stand to be there and watch my city being destroyed. Neither can I live there with masking everywhere. Toronto has also added bike lanes and had taken car lanes on many downtown streets to allow for restaurants to expand their outdoor dining, which was a great idea. Now it’s getting too cold for outdoor dining and there’s a huge shortage of patio/outdoor heaters, which means that even restaurants that might have attempted to extend their outdoor capacity are unable to. We decided to make our escape before being unable to sell at any price. Our dream to live in the heart of the city has turned into a nightmare. I feel for all the city dwellers who are living through this economic and social devastation.
I have been in Toronto on holiday and it is sad to see what is happening to the city.
As a matter of interest were you in Toronto during the SARS outbreak in 2003. If you were did you see the same draconian restrictions and hysteria we see today.
I was actually, and in truth I barely remember it. Sort of like when you ask older people (not that I’m young!) about the Hong Kong Flu or the Asian Flu — they remember that they read a bit about it but don’t have anything more than vague recollections of it being “out there.” The only way in which it affected my family is that my FIL was in the hospital for a short stay and my husband was not allowed to visit him there. There were ZERO restrictions on daily life, which is why I have no real recollection of having lived through a “pandemic.”
It is interesting reading about the lack of restrictions considering SARS was far more dangerous than Covid.
I think that’s a smart trade – sadly the other issues of crime etc are coming here too there are a lot more visable homeless and people begging at traffic lights. The place we are staying had parking but our car wouldn’t fit so had to find somewhere safe to leave it – some of the local car parks were just in disgusting state. It’s beyond the point now where it can be an accident.
We escaped to our country home in May and have barely been back to Toronto since, and each time I’m back for a day or two it’s worse and I can’t wait to leave. While I never envisioned living up here permanently, I now can’t imagine living anywhere else. We’ve got 60 acres and I can go days without seeing anyone in a mask, which is my new idea of heaven.
look up ‘wurzels,combine harvester’;- your 60 acres reminds me of the lyric! Best wishes, Sok, Bournemouth, England
When you could have wacky, daft music, Adge Cutler, ah, the good old days.
What really disturbing is do the politicians like Gove and Raab want London like that for their children?
If people were as unselfish as they’re claiming to be, they’d do what most parents do and make some sacrifices to ensure their children have a better future. In what universe are we asking younger generations to sacrifice for older generations? It’s anti-evolution and anti-human. From the outset, I’ve been more than willing to take the tiny risk and live like a normal human being for the sake of my children. But somehow I’m the selfish one for not wearing a mask.
My child’s school has just announced it is mandating muzzles. My child won’t care (“whatever”) but I am apoplectic.
I would write and ask them for a written medical risk assessment behind the decision to mandate mask-wearing by children. You need also to ask who is responsible for any ill-health suffered by your child as a result of wearing a mask all day in school. MW
And include the BMA quote on masks:
“We appreciate that this is an area in which there is little high-quality empirical evidence. There is, for example, a lack of randomised control trials showing that mask wearing is effective (either indoors or outdoors).”
That is a useful quote, thanks I am just putting together my complaint to my child’s school. They have now extended their mask mandate to include all outside areas. My daughter doesn’t wear one but she doesn’t want to see all her friends muzzled up, very distressing situation.
Now – this sort of thing does need a court case. I’m not a lawyer, but I reckon there has to be grounds from several angles of attack.
I’m in the same situation, mandated everywhere now except the classroom.I will be highlighting the fact that a child, year 8, was having an asthma attack on the bus but was too scared to take her mask off and use her inhaler. I don’t know whether she was scared of catching the virus or scared of being told off. Thankfully the other children on the bus made her take her mask off and use her inhaler. The teachers don’t seem to realise that there are consequences to their relentless focus on covid as the only threat to life.
We need to stop repeating the expression “The New …”
Every repetition solidifies it in an NLP kind of way.
It is the spell of our enemies – don’t use it, don’t say it, don’t think it.
Private Criminal Prosecution of MPs | Mark Devlin Talks To MOB On The Good Vibrations Podcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9pm3Z6nFnk&feature=youtu.be
Interesting points made in podcast:
REALLY WORTH A LISTEN
Thank you for posting this Victoria. Thanks for capatalising your recommendation 2 6. Listening now.
Sorry – but it’s pie in the sky in terms of a practical approach.
There is no legal recourse against the legislature, unless you can command a majority in the legislature. Then you can pass a bill of attainder naming whomever you wish, including former (or even current) MPs. Do you command a majority in Parliament? Wake me up when you do.
Much as I would like TPTB to be held to account for their actions it won’t happen this way. I don’t think magistrates – whose job it is to issue the necessary summonses – will do so as I don’t think prima facie criminal acts have been shown to have been committed. Even if I am wrong about that the DPP can take over and discontinue a private prosecution and would do so here on various grounds.
I read somewhere online that the part of the original Brexit law made Parliament sovereign, which contained the clause that they may now use if the EU does not play ball, essentially deposed the Queen…?
Thanks for posting Victoria
VERY IMPORTANT
Must watch
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8868865/Coronavirus-90-000-people-catching-Covid-19-day-Sir-Patrick-Vallance-claims.html
Can we expect headlines of “New Cases less than two days ago and deaths fall for second day running”
It was supposed to be over 50000 a week ago according to him.
“He’s making it up as he goes along!” John Cleese, Life of Brian
“He’s saying the birds are scrounging.”
Good. 90,000 and doubling what was ? Every 20 Minutes ?
One week 630,000 minimum. Allowing for the doubling every x amount of days and the millions who have already has this. It should be done and dusted by December. Happy Days. Cheers Patrick.
In the UK the NHS has become a Covid only service and basically shut down. Does anyone know if other countries have followed the same policy.
Somebody needs to ask these fuckers: “Exactly whose lives are you saving?”
Hospital Outpatient appointments: April 2019 – August 2019: 51,773,518
Hospital Outpatient appointments: April 2020 – August 2020: 36,060,465
What about those poor bastards who may be dead because just one of those appointments was cancelled?
What exactly did we ‘protect the NHS’ from? Looks to me like it was seeing patients!
That’s a huge drop in numbers. As already said, the NHS is supposed to protect us, not the other way around
Like all nationalised industries it’s run for the benefit of those who work in it. Patients only screw the smooth running up.
Guardian so anticipate limited hangout.
“It has been a trauma’: nurses on ‘shambolic’ 111 Covid-19 clinical service
Nurses came out of retirement to work for NHS service but say it was unsafe for the public”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/22/it-has-been-a-trauma-nurses-on-shambolic-111-covid-19-clinical-service
“Ten nurses who worked for the NHS 111 Covid-19 Clinical Assessment Service have come forward to blow the whistle on their unit’s organisation, describing it as shambolic, and lacking in adequate training and safeguards.”
[…]
“The nurses, who had retired or left the NHS after many years’ experience, were recruited to the CCAS, a new national division of NHS 111, after the health secretary, Matt Hancock, urged doctors and nurses to return and work on the response to the pandemic.
“The role required them to call patients who had been identified by the 111 service to have coronavirus symptoms, and to make clinical assessments about how ill they were and whether they needed medical attention.
“Nurses don’t have training in diagnosis and clinical decision-making, so I thought there would be a lot of training for the CCAS, but there wasn’t,” one of the nurses said. “I’m NHS through and through, but some basics of NHS organisation went by the wayside; they put people into critical roles without proper training. Once I understood the structure, I didn’t think it was safe.”
[..]
“I had no interview,” another of the nurses said. “I did the four hours training – you couldn’t actually do it in four hours, but we were only paid for four – then went on to make calls to people. They had been triaged as having Covid, but it could be anything.”
For those who check the figures note that from the 15 th the figure for ‘ cases’ includes those who have previously tested positive unless the earlier positive test is within the same week. This will inflate the figures by about 10 per cent on the basis of the adjustment made earlier in the year. A negative test on a person who has tested positive in the same week does not cancel the positive test.
Are we still chalking it up to incompetence???
I’d love to be a fly on the wall to see them sitting around the cauldron when they concoct this shit – Hubble bubble, eye of newt, ‘right bring out the virgin, no, not you Hancock’….
How absolutely ridiculous. We know that tiny viral particles can remain in the body for weeks and cause positive tests. I know if at least one person who had 6 positive results so if the tests were weekly they would be classed as 6 cases? The desperation to chalk up extra cases just reached a new low.
I’ve got to take a break from here (and other media, and people in masks – as far as possible) for a bit, losing my sanity and not good for my OH. Ignorance is bliss, for a while.
Go for it and enjoy yourselves but send us a postcard on return!
Had a similar request from my OH last week. Wise to take a break. Get some exercise. Stay offline
Delingpole pod cast Mike Yeadon-youtube, must listen.
Michael Yeadon talks sense.
He was brilliant.
Astonishingly brilliant, and prepared to back it up!..
He even challenged Vallance to sue him as he called him (Vallance) a liar!
The question that is on everyone’s lips, finally answered…
“Does Vaping spread Covid?”
“It is not a good idea for anyone to be exhaling big clouds of vape or singing loudly in a crowded area and sharing their exhaled breath with other people,” she said. “Of course, we would not want to discourage people from vaping if they have successfully managed to quit smoking.”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/oct/22/why-is-a-covid-vaccine-taking-so-long-experts-answer-your-questions
Someone once told me that they hated music. I replied with “you have no soul” (and I’m not even religious)
Vaping shows how ridiculous the covid fear is. Vape smoke shows how far your breath goes. A long long way. Hangs about for ages. Viruses I would imagine more so.
I just like the way they sneakily associate singing with doing something “foul and disgusting” like smoking (via vaping)
As we all know, all smokers (and loud singers) are inconsiderate, selfish pricks.
And we need to have mild infections to prep the immune system.
“Taking so long?” Before all this, an ebola vaccine developed in 4 years was considered quick.
Work faster!!
From home!!
More doom and gloom from the Grim Gauleiter of Govan.
First there was a roadmap, then a 16 day lockdown, then a 23 day lockdown, then some new tiers. Now Christmas is cancelled. Glad my late father moved us all to England in the 60’s. It’s not perfect but the face of independence is Honecker’s DDR.
How on earth Scots put up with, let alone approve of this Dour, cheerless harpy is beyond me
Scots like dour, cheerless harpies and dour, cheerless warlocks. Goes back to John Knox.
It’s what happens. The sensible Scots are leaving in droves.
An independent Scotland under the SNP will be unbearable. I’m seriously looking at moving abroad. I like the idea of Zanzibar.
This whole corona scamdemic keeps making me think of Philip K Dick..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LDv8fm_R7g
Isaac Asimoc The Naked Sun’
“The book focuses on the unusual traditions, customs, and culture of Solarian society. The planet has a rigidly controlled population of 20,000, and all work is done by robots, which outnumber humans ten thousand to one. People are taught from birth to avoid personal contact, and live on huge estates, either alone or with their spouse only. Face-to-face interaction (referred to in the book as “seeing”), and especially impregnating a woman, when replacement of a descendent is necessary, was seen as a dirty chore. (Other science fiction novels examine the extra-uterine care of fetuses, but this is not Asimov’s concern here.) Communication takes place through technology unknown of off their world: holography, 3-D television. At the time, 2-D (ordinary) color television was a novelty, with very limited programming and not many of the expensive receivers. Asimov was a scientist with a wide range of interests, and was familiar with the principles of electron microscopes then being developed, and from which holography descends.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Naked_Sun
Just finished reading that (again) a couple of weeks back; now on the fourth of the series.
Solaria actually gets worse; by the end of the Foundation series, there are only 5,000 Solarians. Their aim is eventually to have only one Solarian to a planet.
Second mention of the great man today.
Sir Desmond Swayne “on fire” again in the Commons:
https://twitter.com/DesmondSwayne/status/1319298302538645504
Excellent!
Only wish there were 400 more Desmonds in the house.
647 more…
He has gone full-on sceptic – 2 mins 15 second summary of the main case for stopping the nonsense now, delivered with vigour bordering on contempt (“our actions defy rational explanation”) and eloquence. I don’t know why he doesn’t resign the whip now really – he pretty much rubbished the whole government line and accused them of deliberately distorting figures to justify their policies.
He should. For as long as he takes the whip, he is supporting the government in fact whatever he says.
Except maybe he’s hoping to be part of the move to oust Johnson, so maybe we’re best off with him on the inside
Thanks for the link, John. I think Sir Desmond ‘gets it’.
That’s a great summary, said with conviction
He’s on point! Well done than man!
Great!! But all other countries are doing the same….. that is herd stupidity. Also questions the PCR tests, etc
Yes – BOOM!
“Italy Did Everything Right to Stop a Second Wave of the Coronavirus. So What Went Wrong?
What’s particularly troubling about the return of COVID in Italy is that the country has done everything experts like Dr. Anthony Fauci have been advising. Face masks in public places have been compulsory for months, social distancing is strongly enforced, nightclubs have never reopened, and sporting arenas are at less than a third of capacity. Children who are back at school are regularly tested and strictly social-distanced, and yet, the second wave seems completely unstoppable.“
https://www.thedailybeast.com/italy-did-everything-right-to-stop-a-second-wave-of-the-coronavirus-so-what-went-wrong
Suggests that what they claim as being right is in fact wrong?
virus gonna do what viruses do.
How many times do we have to repeat this obvious fact?
What’s key is the use of the word “right”. What they actually did was follow a strict lockdown policy correctly. As it turns out it’s the lockdown policy that is wrong.
That’s the first thing I spotted there. Who says these things are the right thing to do? They’re clearly not!
Almost as if lockdowns don’t really help.
But no, that conclusion can’t be right, as it’s obvious one.
To steal a phrase from someone else, “Occam’s butterknife”.
Yes, there is a genuine belief among certain rather influential people that the simplest explanation is vulgar, and much greater sophistication of mind is shown by multiplying entities and denying the obvious.
Amazing isn’t it, how people overlook the obvious and repeat the same mistake over and over again.
“It’s all the fault of the people who just won’t follow the rules!”
It’s another testdemic.
So might it conceivably occur to them that their whole approach was wrong?
Oh God. Hit your head against the wall to cure a headache, and if that doesn’t work, hit it again harder.
I expected a lot of illness this autumn. Locking people up, and stressing them damages the immune system.
I expect people weren’t following the rules. Better make them tighter.
Oh my god I am literally shouting at the twat on TalkRadio!!!!
Benjamin Butler- what a fckg arsehole.
Who the hell is Benjamin Butler?
Benjamin, Olivia.. presumably another fucking jolly hockey stick career politician with a posh voice making them appear intelligent.. like Jenrick Nice but Dim…
Don’t forget Tristram.
nope, a woke gay lefty journo.. he writes for the guardian sometimes.
Actually Dan Wootton does have commentators on from both sides and it is often provocative – deliberately – so it makes good radio and Dan does give them some stick
Benjamin Butterworth?
No idea but I really dont like him!!!
Sanctimonious prick saying the students are spoiled brats and selfish and how dangerously they are behaving.
How dare they want to enjoy thw best days of their lives.
I hope they do it all again tonight and tomorrow and the night after.
Rebel!!!!!!!!!!
Party on,dudes!
From a 71 year old.
Another thing, if they catch covid at uni, they won’t be “killing Granny” and will help with herd immunity. I always got a bad cold the first week back at college and I wasn’t partying!
We need a good clear out of the Augean Stable.
But they had another student on to counter that and she gave a good account of herself . Which was great and goes to show not all students support lockdown .
Butterworth – sorry
Is he worth butter?
He’s not worth ‘i cant believe it’s not butter’!!!!
‘i cant believe it’s not axle grease’
https://en.everybodywiki.com/Benjamin_Butterworth_(journalist) often on JHB on Talkradio. Very much promask.
No really? – you do surprise me!
(I didn’t really want to uptick but rude to downtick)
The Guardian: Is Wizz Air flying in the face of the Equality Act over face masks?.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2020/oct/22/is-wizz-air-flying-in-the-face-of-the-equality-act-over-face-masks
The comments are full of eejits.
People honestly think that masks work and that they aren’t putting them at more risk
Just got an email from LNER.
We wanted to let you know that everyone who travels this year must have a seat reservation, meaning there will be far fewer tickets available to ensure you have a socially distanced seat.
We hope that things will be better this Christmas and we’ll be able to get together with the ones we love. We know it’s early to be thinking about it but we don’t want you to miss out on the Christmas magic
Fuck off.
LNER soon to be going out of business. They will not be alone.
Probably not,LNER is for all intents and purposes nationalised,there again under the emergency measures all the other franchise are too.
Really?
They will end up bankrupt like the Transport for Wales franchsie. Many frontline staff in Wales have been blaming the managerial work from home brigade for making unenforceable rules which discourage travel..
All buses in our area are now going around empty.
Rail franchises have been a joke for years anyway.
Whatisname’s only legacy to the nation as PM.
Yeh, think I know who you mean. Um….
always – the whole rail privatisation was a cock up.. it was done at a time when BR was actually getting sorted out despite underinvestment from all governments and a bit of money (and far less than privatisation has needed in subsidies) could have made it a decent service . I am not generally pro nationalisation but this was a mistake
Yes,in the late 80s and early 90s Intercity was returning a profit and it was much better than anything on offer today.
You’d have to be nuts to advance book a ticket for travel at Christmas the way things are going.
From the Grauniad “Rules on the wearing of face masks in hospitality and sports have been toughened in Spain’s southern Andalucía region, according to local reports.
The junta announced on Thursday that under the new guidelines anyone practising individual sports – including running, cycling and skating – must now wear a mask if in a densely populated area. The rules for group sports remain unchanged.
In hospitality settings including bars and restaurants, customers must now wear a face mask unless they are eating or drinking, which suggests the mask must not be removed between courses while seated.” Oh to be in Spain
I’d sooner visit the devil in hell.
If he’s at home, that is, and not in Melbourne.Or No. 10.
Or Andalucia, apparently.
The spirit of Franco lives on…
The European hysteria capital, even with much competition.
Another ‘test’ video. This guy doesn’t swab anything, just opens it, puts it in tube and sends back. Any guesses what the result is?
https://www.facebook.com/734705245/videos/10164242481825246/
NB: No FB account required to watch
I’ve received an invitation to take part in random PCR testing. I was going to throw away the letter, but then realised it was a chance to do this same sort of experiment, as I’ve heard of this happening far too often. I’m doing a video diary of the process, I’ve registered for the test and I should receive the test kit in the next few days. Will keep you posted.
I can’t help feeling that if we marshalled all these incidents, they would be very hard to ignore…
C’mon. Is it a marrow or an apple?
see this video . this was posted a week or two back. the same sort of thing as you are planning … so choose something different
I remember watching that and hoping that this would get through to more young people, who seem, by and large, totalling accepting of the government’s propaganda. But rather than try anything fancy, I’m just going to do what the chap in the FB video did, and just put the swab, unused, in the test tube (which I understand has some sort of liquid in it), and return it as it is. I’ve got a good friend on standby to record me doing it. Will report back.
Trouble is, if “you” test positive, the bounders tell T&T and the police may then be round your house.
I’ve thought about that, and that’s why I’m carefully documenting it by video, to prove that I haven’t taken the test. I’m happy to have take that argument as far as I need to if I’m ever challenged. But if it’s a positive result, I want to make it as public as possible, because of course I’ll be adding to the stats that are holding us all captive.
No way!!! That is insane. Give that man a medal, & get this properly reported, to show the brainwashed masses that the testing process is utterly flawed.
I am going to order one, maybe swab my cats turds or the tyres of my car, send it away & see what results I get back.
I’m taking bets now, 4/1 it’s a positive, 2/1 it’s a negative.
What utter shit.
Great idea, but don’t give up the day job to become an oddsmaker.
I could bet on both outcomes and still make a tidy profit!
I currently don’t have a job..lol.
Seen rumours that many Chinese-produced kits are impregnated with the virus..
Great – please can someone send this to Simon Dolan?
Middle daughter and I gad a run in with the Covid nazi on the door at B&Q today. She insisted I wear an exemption lanyard as “we are under new rules now” Realising it was pointless discussing it any further just said “I’ve had enough of this” and walked into the shop with her shouting after me to follow the arrows and socially distance! Learning points for Daughter. Know your rights and don’t be bullied by someone who’s been given a tiny bit of power.
Thumbs up
You really can’t make this up….
What utter utter shit. Had to get the covid part in eh?
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/family-kids/parents-reveal-how-many-times-22890010
This is how Krankie is getting away with her crap; people are stupid!
Minimum of twice weekly? No wonder I don’t have a problem social distancing!
Everyone please fill out the survey that comes with the article (it appeared for me – not sure if it always appears).
As Ireland goes into it’s Level 5 non-lockdown lockdown, Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly said “today is day one of flattening the curve for a second time” and this is a “pre-emptive strike”. blah blah blah
Well I flattened it for him. Sorry this is a bit juvenile but there’s only so much serious stuff I can deal with in one day.
“Pre-emptive strike” Disturbing amount of aggressive military type talk being carelessly flung around.
So let me get this straight. The last lockdown failed to flatten the curve or, at least, only managed to flatten it for as long as the weight of the lockdown was flattening it. So if the last lockdown failed to flatten the curve it was mean to flatten, why does anybody think that another lockdown to flatten the curve will, in fact, succeed in flattening the curve it is intended to flatten?
H/T “Yes, Minister”.
Because they can’t think of a new slogan so they just used the one that worked last time.
Superb comment. I find it hard to judge the mood of the population at large but it’s hard to imagine that any thinking person would believe this shit any longer. TD Michael McNamara on fire today in debate about rolling forward emergency powers until June – very well worth watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90flUTYfPMk
I wrote a letter to Sainsbury’s pointing out the liability in distrubuting a face covering. I also asked for a copy of the risk assessment they have carried out on the face coverings they handing out to customers. I haven’t received a formal reply but tonight their doors were unmanned, no face coverings baskets and a brand new poster. A simple poster which highlights the law including the exemption bit! Hurray! It’s the little things.
It’s people like you taking the trouble to write. Well done.
Thank you.
I wrote to Asda too. They have replied formally and tomorrow as a birthday treat I will reply to them. I explored the medical device route but the government (MHRA) has already said that face coverings don’t count as fake devices. However, handing out face coverings shift personal responsibility to corporate. Fingers crossed.
They’re not medical devices but they ARE a NPI – Non Pharmaceutical Intervention. I’ll try and post the WHO table.
Article 6 of the UN Bioethics Committee specifically states:
Article 6 – Consent
1. Any preventive, diagnostic and therapeutic
medical intervention is only to be carried out with the prior, free and
informed consent of the person concerned, based on adequate information. The
consent should, where appropriate, be express and may be withdrawn by the
person concerned at any time and for any reason without disadvantage or
prejudice.
3. In no case should a collective community
agreement or the consent of a community leader or other authority substitute
for an individual’s informed consent.
http://portal.unesco.org/en/ev.php-URL_ID=31058&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html
Well done! Any chance of seeing the poster? Would be good ammunition for a similar fight I’m about to embark on with my local Sainsburys!
I wrote to Sainsbury’s Monday afternoon, so quite a fast response. I’ll try attach a photo.
That’s great! And thank you
I’m planning to write to all local businesses to point out the relevant legislation about not discriminating against non-mask wearers, and point out that they could play a huge rule in encouraging civility amongst their shoppers by modelling tolerance. I will also point out that they will not have my cold hard cash until they change the tone of their signage and announcements.
I think I touched a nerve in requesting a copy of the risk assessment they have duty to carry out as the government hasn’t.
No doubt! The government has been diabolically clever by pawning off the duty to enforce the guidance to private companies – puts businesses between a rock and a hard place, and I do feel sorry for them. But if they turned round en masse and refused to do what the government is asking of them, that would go a long way to bringing this fiasco to an end.
Print of some NO MASK WE WON’T ASK posters of the internet and enclose in your letters so they have something to put in their windows .There are many different versions out there .Good luck .
Photo.
Brilliant, thanks for this! Into battle I go!
As i said above a good idea is the NO MASK WE DON’T ASK posters .Ever shop we get one in is a small victory . Different designs on the net to print off.
Fabulous news! Unfortunately the local Sainsbury mega market for me has taken up queuing again even though it’s empty inside. So many poor elderly having to wait Outside in the rain for no reason
This utterly evil government has yet again failed to support the 3 million excluded from financial support during the pandemic. People left with no money through no fault of their own. I cannot describe how angry I feel, when I know people who got large amounts of money they did not need through the various schemes, and their businesses were barely affected, they have wasted money on the useless track and trace scheme etc etc, and yet cant find money to support the people left behind/being left destitute.
I am in a close contact job and if I cant work am entitled to 0 after being a net contributor and never having claimed a penny from the state. Thank god I am currently working and able to save up for now, but I am lucky, many are really screwed.
So George Floyd died of fentanyl, methamphetamine and more importantly was positive for Covid-19 (from autopsy)
So Covid killed him – queue BLM marches against Covid
That autopsy was published ages ago but got suppressed. Did not see anything about Covid being mentioned in it then – has it been added?
The bodycam from one of the Police shows clearly what went on and unsurprisingly the MSM story of him being killed does not appear to be true..
Desmond Swayne at it again today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10yDeKNsTz8&t=0s
What a bloody hero.
Just sent him an email – what a gent!!!
I have too! Worthy of support for holding the government to account, more voices needed.
Excellent speech. The fact that he wears a detachable collar should show you that he holds no truck with fashionable modern trends.
The sideburns are a bonus.
I have just sent this to him:
Dear Sir Desmond,
I have just watched your speech in the House of Commons today (I was directed to it from http://www.lockdownsceptics.org).
Absolutely brilliant!! All of the points I try to make but you have done it so much better.
Well done! Please keep it up.
This anti-social distancing (I refuse to use the other term which is Orwellian newspeak) is KILLING businesses left right and centre; their business model, which was perfectly sensible and reasonable has been destroyed, not by new technology but by government fiat. Anti-social distancing is even more pernicious than these disgusting face-nappies.
I note from your biography that you studied Theology at the University of St. Andrews; you may be interested to learn that I run three New Testament Greek Groups and a Latin Group.
Welby could learn a lot from you.
Thanks again.
Steve
Agreed – good man!
What do people make of Steve Baker smirking behind him in the clip? I am somehow not reading his expression as being one of support…
I assume that he is supportive and cannot understand why anyone would think otherwise given that Steve Baker seems to have been one of the more sceptical MPs throughout .
Not a ‘hero’ (a much overused word). An MP doing hos job well.
I am going to deposit some valuables at my GP surgery tomorrow. All relevant security seems in place. My only reservation is their mask policy!
‘STAY HOME’
What a brainless and vapid message. And people are tired of the propaganda.
Not even good English. Should be “stay AT home”
Sadly my family are still suckered in.
Keep at it. It’ll sink in eventually.
Some excerpts from an article by Dr Rancourt in Off Guardian:
“Medicine most everywhere has been modelled into a state religion, which creates an unhealthy dependence, and a debilitating perception of one’s own body and place in the world.”
“…the influence of Big Pharma is devastating, with prescription-drug addictions, and population-scale use of chemotherapeutic, psychotropic and palliative drugs. Most published research validating marginal benefits from these drugs is false. It is no accident that the third-leading cause of death in the West is medical “error”, not counting error-free “treatment”.”
“In addition, vaccines are generally a global industry of harmful exploitation, enabled by the captured WHO and CDC. It is a trillion-dollar industry, which supports the USA dollar as a global currency.”
“The jurisdictions that are somewhat independent of the USA are not immune to the institutions captured by Big Pharma, nor to the global propaganda about the pandemic, because these jurisdictions know that fear can lead to war, and vaccines can create vaccine borders against trade and cooperation. “
“Transmissible pathogens are a powerful pretext for total isolation and vilification of nations. Thus, except for Belarus that proves the rule, China and Russia must at least appear to take the West’s pandemic seriously, and they must develop their own vaccines.”
https://off-guardian.org/2020/10/22/great-viral-debate-round-2-dr-rancourts-second-response/
He’s one of our Canadian heroes during this debacle!
Is Sweden’s vaccine/chip friendly population a more plausible explanation of why it has been allowed to escape the lockdown stranglehold applied elsewhere in Europe?
COVID and the coming Reset is a global play and prominent global players like the UK have been chosen to show the rest how it should be done…
Good question.
I have thought about this but it doesn’t explain other outliers around the world like Tanzania, Belarus, Brazil, Nicaragua, Japan, Pakistan, parts of Switzerland and some states in America.
Different countries, different reasons perhaps.
It could be. I think it’s clear that there are various groups at work trying to take advantage of the situation, just not sure that it’s coordinated and premeditated in response to this.
That said, we should definitely seek to stop purveyors of ‘resets’ and ‘new normal’ from advancing their damaging agendas.
Just caught the decade of health add on the telly, priming us for a decade of this shit. Sponsored by the bill and Melinda foundation and London school of tropical medicine, unicef and others. This is a long game plan.
I agree with this. Not everybody with an agenda is a shadowy supra-national Blofeld, overpaid do-gooder Gates, or certifiable lunatic Schwab. Not that I think any of them are competent enough to push their agendas too hard. Yes, politicians enjoy the Davos piss up and steal buzz phrases, but Gates keeps on getting kicked out of this country or that over some fuck up or other, and that pesky Bond fellow always seems to sort out Blofeld.
But there are a lot of more mundane groups, such as XR and BLM who sniff a vacuum where there is no clear leadership. Such as from the present government of the UK.
XR and BLM are funded by the same globalist crowd
I think there are two mentalities particularly resistant to this madness. The first is the classic Peter Hitchens type traditional conservative, religious, patient, sturdy, self reliant, suspicious of authoritarian do-gooders. The second is more leftist, awkward, rebellious, genuinely compassionate and distrustful of authority in general and rich bullies in particular. A smaller group are the intellectually curious who instinctively check the small print and are just very hard to fool. Nicaragua and Pakistan are in the first group, Belarus in the second and Sweden in the third
Pakistan tried lockdown and realised the human cost was too much.Belarus is ruled by a maverick authoritarian and now faces a colour revolution for going against the lockdown tide.Sweden is a small country in which health and politics are seperate.
The one country that doesn’t fit into the conspiracy narrative is Japan.Any answers?
I believe Japan has post-WW2 constitutional limitations on state authority, which would not permit lockdown edicts.
In Belarus, Lukashenko refused the IMF / World Bank bribe of $940m. Which is why his political opposition are now being courted by Western European leaders, and the media including the BBC depict the anti-Lukashenko protesters as latter day saints.
https://youtu.be/Lh6VnB7JvW0?t=1004
(At this timepoint)
In the US, the divide between different States is along obvious party lines.
Switzerland is home to much of the Banking cabal, and a resort / playground for many of the elite.
Serbian citizens said ‘No!’.
Interesting theory. I think it’s more likely that Sweden’s tradition of neutrality has made it less eager to jump into bed with whatever villains are running this show.
I live in Sweden and know NO ONE with a chip – nor anyone who thinks it is a good idea..
Since a large number of people took up the offer (not compulsory) of the swine flu vaccine and Sweden then had the highest number of cases of narcolepsy-damaged individuals, people are not that keen to sign up for a rushed vaccine – at least not among the people I know anyway.
More likely explanation is that Sweden already holds quite a lot of data on its citizens, albeit not easily accessible to snoopers as things stand, but it would be fairly easy to ‘mesh’ the databases together and exert more control if someone/some authority were so inclined in the future….
One plausible explanation is a soundly written and respected constitution and institutions and a separation of powers between political and public health, combined with the courage and good sense of a few individuals (Tegnell, Giesecke, the PM, others).
Just because lots of countries panicked and did the wrong thing doesn’t mean they all have to. South Dakota didn’t. Plenty of others.
What’s more surprising and hard to explain is how many countries did panic and continue to do so.
Yes, and a more rational explanation too.
A panic scenario is believable in which globalist intrests rushed into the breach after seeing the opportunity that lockdowns afforded.
Health is separate from politics in Sweden so they was not able to use the same trick there.That being said they are too small to matter and will be made to toe the line later
Find it quite refreshing that Outlook spellcheck still does not recognise ‘Covid’ as a word. I am not going to add it to the dictionary either.
Love those small wins!
My mask is my face.
Lockdown is freedom.
+ve PCR tests are cases.
All deaths are Covid deaths.
So we shut the Nightingales because we were worried about NHS capacity.
MSM is truth.
We are always at war with Covid.
“The shocking thing about the above quote is that using their own methods, the virologists found that solutions containing SARS-CoV-2 — even in high amounts — were NOT, I repeat NOT, infective to any of the three human tissue cultures they tested”
https://www.sott.net/article/443103-Only-poisoned-monkey-kidney-cells-grew-the-SARS-CoV-2-virus
References this CDC study
http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0516_article
Makes me think that a) more evidence that they claim to isolate SARS-CoV-2 but that’s not correct and b) these human trials where they intentionally infect humans, is there a chance they may struggle to?
I did hear they were struggling to infect the human guinea pigs for the vaccine trials.
Really? As in, they were exposing them to the virus but they weren’t testing positive or displaying symptoms (not surprising since such a large proportion of people are supposedly asymptomatic).
It’s what I heard a couple of months ago. Hearsay I know.
I had read a story about they had been doing trials on humans for the Spanish flu back in the 1918s olden days and struggled to infect people. Even by getting them to do very close contact to try and infect them.
Ah, here it is
https://medium.com/microbial-instincts/spread-of-spanish-flu-was-never-experimentally-confirmed-9f91b37c4dd8
First result in DuckDuckGo. Does not appear on Google as it goes. Quelle suprise
“They isolated microbial mixtures from the throat and noses of carefully selected influenza cases from an outbreak location. The researchers then administered these to 10 young U.S. navy volunteers without prior exposure to influenza. None fell sick.
They drew blood from influenza patients and transferred it to the navy volunteers. None fell sick.
They collected influenza patients’ mucous membranes with swabs and filtered them to exclude larger microbes like bacteria. They then injected the filtrate into the navy volunteers. None fell sick.
They brought the navy volunteers to meet influenza patients. They shook hands and conversed. The patients also exhaled (as hard as possible) onto the volunteers’ face for five times. Then the patients cough directly onto the volunteers. None fell sick.”
Anyone here with any interest in Ireland please watch this. TD Michael McNamara on fire today in debate about rolling forward emergency powers until June – very well worth watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90flUTYfPMk
Strong words passionately delivered. Ireland seems to have gone full scale nuts over this which is surprising given that Leo is actually a qualified Doctor. Unfortunately for us in Northern Ireland, what happens down South still has an influencing impact on our devolved policy makers. So monkey see, monkey do.
My God, that is good. Fire in his belly and all kudos for that. But he is right. If this isn’t debated in the Dail, it’ll be debated outside.
Yes – I think that was his main message – a clear warning that violence on the streets will result from Gov failures. Notice that Donnelly didn’t look up at any time during his impassioned speech.
He got longer than fifty seconds…
Great passionate speech. How dare they attempt to stop priests celebrating the memorial of our redemption.
Not religious myself, but I’m surprised that an openly Catholic country such as the Republic of Ireland can have a government failing to understand that Mass is a sacrament. It’s important to believers.
I am surprised that the closure of churches and pubs did not lead to riots here in Ireland (as a teetotal atheist, neither affects me directly but I consider the closure of both to be wrong).
Went to Specsavers today who, I have to say, to a person were so helpful and nice and I wasn’t wearing a mask. Then, waiting for my appointment, a woman who must have been in her late eighties complained to a member of staff that I wasn’t masked up, even though she was at least twenty feet away from me. Late eighties or not, these people are collaborators: in respect of doing the enemy’s work for them. I felt really ill disposed towards her (and that’s being polite.)
Just concentrate on the other old lady in her eighties in Yorkshire who isn’t scared at all and her video is reaching tens of thousands of people .
What happened about her complaint?
A member of staff checked to see if I was exempt and told her so. But ffs there are approx 25 staff in that opticians, all masked, aproned and gloved up. Didn’t it occur to her that someone might have asked already? Reckon she was a professional snitch.
They think they are going to live forever.
Staying apart keeps us together
https://www.newrrg.vic.gov.au/2020/07/09/staying-apart-keeps-us-together/
Victoria Auz. Straight out of 1984 doublethink
I can’t say exactly when, but I think that at some point in the last two days, the tide turned.
You cannot ignore an 83 year old great-grandma from south yorkshire:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/10/22/should-not-surrender-warns-grandmother-became-overnight-celebrity/
“The future of the young is in your hands Boris. And for God’s sake, get some people around you who know what needs to be done,” she said.
“I would sack the lot of them, especially Matt Hancock. Get people who will tell you to open everything up and shield the vulnerable.”
That Granny is the best thing to happen in ages .I know people who are talking about it who have never been lockdown sceptics .It puts to death the lie everyone is scared and that old people all just want to be protected and don’t have a life to live .I urge everyone who has not done it yet to get this video as much attention as you can because it will further our cause no end .
There was also a great write up on the daily mail about her as well . She also said that her and her husband had covid and survived it so it’s nothing to worry about.
It was shown on Jeremy Vine this morning. Guest host was Anne Diamond and Storm Huntley (doing the background stuff in the foreground) seems to have chosen it. That show, including with Vine as host, is a lot more lockdown sceptic than it used to be.
There seems to have been a sudden rush of good news, eg:
The Liverpool gyms is the turn. Proves that if you stand up to the bastards, they cave in. They cave in because they know they’re in the wrong.
Hero of the week for me.
The yorkshire granny video goes viral , Desmond swayne speech in parliament, young students arguing it out on talk radio Dan Wotton . Ivor Cummins got a new video out on triggernometry . There’s lots to be thankful about just keep away from videos telling you we’re all doomed and you will keep yourself mentally fit for the fight .Chin up Mumkin .
What about the new lockdowns in Scotland, Ireland and Wales? And Tier 3 creeping ever onwards across England?
I think that’s actually more evidence that the tide has turned. The dictators are getting more desperate and tougher with the measures because they know people are beginning to see through the BS.
What about them ? For the obedience of fools, as always.
The Councils get money to do the lockdowns. Got nothing to do with the virus. On the other hand it decimates businesses and makes people poorer.
Sorry if this has already been posted – not had much chance to look at the comments section today. Public vote of no confidence in the government. What do people think? I support the end goal of course (although I’m not sure about the alternative!), but it looks to me like it’s on the side of Starmer, implying that the government failed us by not locking down soon or hard enough.
https://tinyurl.com/yy2a72a8
Looks lockdown fanatic to me.
Sounds terrible. I posted it here a few days ago!
Fight it to the end – and take one with you.
Best to take a break from all media for a while when things get like that, I find. And remember that less than 40 years ago, Britons like the late Sir Roger Scruton risked imprisonment and torture to oppose totalitarianism in Europe. If he could do that, we can hold out against our current shower in Parliament, for as long as it takes.
Very well said!
Take a break. Day or two with no tv, internet, or phone. Nature food books sleep exercise.
I’ve heard this has been debunked. Don’t worry about it until you know its credible.
Yes I’ve read it’s not credible
I’m in Canada — it’s been debunked. While our government is completely untrustworthy, this is not real.
Yes; it’s entirely credible to me at least.
My worry is that everyone else will consign it as a crazy conspiracy theory.
Which will allow stealth preparations in that direction to continue.
There is other indicative evidence of a second virus, most damningly out of BG’s own mouth.
If it’s been debunked the question becomes who wrote it & put it out, and why?
SPI-B ? Because they’re bastards.
Exactly what they want. Resist it. The worst that can happen is you die. And since that applies to all of us why be terrified? Don’t give them the satisfaction.
I wasn’t implying anything negative but trying to encourage you. Sometimes we only have two choices. Resist or surrender x
https://twitter.com/KenGibs1/status/1319176156839632896
The system has changed – double counting of positive tests is now explicitly allowed for.
Outrageous!
Check out the new Desmond Swayne speech on youtube .Just type in Desmond Swayne Herd stupidity .He’s putting the message out .
I’ve just heard of someone who was asked to take the PCR test. After being made to wait for over two hours she decided to leave without taking the test. She later received a letter telling her she had tested positive. How often is this happening I wonder?
Just caught the decade of health add on the squalk box, I am lost for expletives. And the first line of sponsors is bloody bill and Melinda foundation, and the London school od tropical medicine. This sh1t makes my blood boil.
Are hospitals/GPs using early-stage interventions such as well-documented, safe, effective and cheap HCQ treatments?
https://hcqlost.com
It is available on the interweb. Not sure if it’s on Amazon Prime though.
c4 news just announcing that police are investigating care home deaths in scotland .
interesting ………
ps – here is more info . Operation Koper
Bloody good. But it is Political police Scotland so no breath held.
They probably suspect that some of the people who died had transphobic views that they didn’t recant before they died. I suspect that care homes are liable for that in Scotland.
Coventry, Slough & Stoke has just been announced as new Tier 2 areas.
Looking at the positive tests in the areas do they really think bankrupting the few pubs that remain is going to save them….. assuming they need saving!
My guess is all of England will be under Tier 3 by mid December, in time for Boris to ‘save Christmas’ by graciously allowing us to meet with relations on Christmas Day only.
He will expect gratitude.
I don’t think he’d want to open my Christmas present for him if he knew what was in it.
Just extend to him the truth in which self-illusion cannot abide.
Or you make a version of him (out of your mind) and attack it (your mind).
He can stick his tiers, its all ridiculous
If people were not allowed to gather for his death and resurrection, why would they be allowed to gather to celebrate his birth. Now I know that few do, but I would not be surprised if Christmas gets cancelled so that a new festivity can replace it. The Christian spirit may be very weak in a largely lost ‘flock’ but is bedrock to the notion of love as the individual expression of true willingness for life and the conditions that support life.
The new world order works to usurp and invert Order as a world in which
“Everything is BACKWARDS; everything is upside down! Doctors destroy health, Lawyers destroy justice, Universities destroy knowledge, Governments destroy freedom, Major media destroys information, And religions destroy spirituality”. (~Michael Ellner).
The Christ Spirit never was, is or shall be proprietary to any human organisation for it is the nature of any and every real relationship – evidenced as the recognition of another as our self. This recognition is in the heart. It is the heart, given honour and welcome. It is also the context and basis of an honest and honouring communication and the way out of hell.
Your basic point is sound though. The usurper grants limited and conditional privileges as token ‘freedoms’ or ‘little concessions’ to engineer compliance.
Frankly Crassmass is a gross and hollow ritual that I choose not to mask in.
But there is a quality in Silence from which a renewing of faith and friendship naturally overflow and gratefully so.
Another name to know. Yanner Bar-Yan. A short look at his wiki entry will give you a flavour.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaneer_Bar-Yam
You only need to look at this twitter exchange to grasp his place.
Conversation
Prof. Devi Sridhar
@devisridhar
My view: going to be a rough 4 months (until March) trying to minimise death & minimise restrictions. Then, governments have another chance (Crossed fingerswith vaccine & rapid testing) to form a strategy based on latest data & to use the summer months to form a gameplan with this virus.
Yaneer Bar-Yam
@yaneerbaryam
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Replying to
@devisridhar
Devi, many are locking down now. North Ireland, Wales, Ireland.
Push for getting to zero before opening up.
Prof. Devi Sridhar
@devisridhar
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That requires strong leadership & vision with a clear plan, deliverable objectives & bringing the public along…
Yaneer Bar-Yam
@yaneerbaryam
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Now is the time to make it clear that this is the way out
Yaneer Bar-Yam
@yaneerbaryam
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If it is done well we will be out of this in weeks.
Yaneer Bar-Yam
@yaneerbaryam
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Your writing is outstanding. Explaining this well will matter
https://twitter.com/devisridhar/status/1319309475082309632?s=20
This is a an American telling another American to push for entire lock down to covid zero of Great Britain. In public.
If you read Yanner’s wiki the title Activism seems to relate soley to Covid19 matters. Curious. I bet a lockdown sceptic or two might know more about this guy.
Also to mention Leech was at Harvard in recent years (2012?) Getting an MSc/MA in public health or similar. Yanner has a position at Harvard.
Scrote is a word that springs to mind.
I ventured into the epicentre of the plague today. Liverpool. Fear Level Three. Except it didn’t have the feel of a city in the grip of death. I wandered along the great Mersey. Grey clouds, the first bite of winter, a spit of rain. But there was still life at the docklands. Couples taking a walk arm in arm, youngsters whizzing about on electric scooters, dogwalkers and pram-pushing grandmas. Cyclists and joggers, young and old. It was just so normal. Fishermen huddled together grinning and joking – is that allowed? They didn’t care. If it wasn’t for the covid propaganda every few yards and the odd person braving the bracing air in a mask, I’d have thought all was well with the world.
Nice to hear of low outdoor maskage even with all the hysteria there.
I go shoulders, knees and toes, bit think i prefer yours
Apologies if already posted, but Great Barrington now has a comprehensive rebuttal to the many ‘let it rip’ slurs:
https://gbdeclaration.org/frequently-asked-questions/
They don’t seem to be listening to anyone but what they want to hear, they’ve been compromised
Who is “they” and how have “they” been compromised?
This puts the truth in a nutshell:
“Do you believe in herd immunity?
Yes. Herd immunity is a scientifically proven phenomenon. To ask an epidemiologist if they believe in herd immunity is like asking a physicist if they believe in gravity. Those who deny herd immunity may also wish to join the flat-earth society.”
Presumably the entire cabinet, the entire Labour Party, the entire Welsh and Scottish pseudogovernments, and all Imperial College pseudoscientists are fully paid-up members of the Flat Earth Society.
A long-run review of death rates in Belarus (graph) including the Wuhan-Corona pandemic of 2020 puts this one severe flu wave in context, against what serious economic and social dislocations can do to people, which is to say why Lockdown-ism is crazy and wrongheaded. (In this case, the Soviet-bloc collapse.)
https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2020/10/22/against-the-corona-panic-part-xviii-lessons-from-no-lockdown-belarus-on-the-wuhan-corona-flu-wave-the-total-mortality-impact-is-in-line-with-previous-peak-flu-waves-and-dwarfed-by-effects-of-soviet/
Notice the long-excess of the post-Soviet disruption is as a mountain against the Wuhan-Corona molehill. Major social-economic disruption in principle could of course do the same in the fanatic-lockdown regimes.
“Major social and economic disruptions kill. Lockdowns cause social-economic disruptions. Ergo, Lockdowns kill.”
Interesting stuff. thanks.
You refer to Neil Ferguson as Niall in fourth para below “The Two Lessons of Belarus” sub-heading. That’s a very different Ferguson!
Also, interested that you refer to this covid as “flu” throughout. It would be more accurate to refer to it as a “common cold” virus, since it is not the same kind of virus as influenza. Is this just using the term as a generic for seasonal respiratories, or do you have another reason for this usage?
Very interesting.Thanks.Belarus has also an increase of cases again in the seasonal wave but much lower than neighbouring lockdown masked Poland and partially lockdowned halfmasked neighbouring Russia which have much worse figures. The final figures of these three countries,the same latitude would give us the answer if Belarus non SD non lockdown will have a better outcome than lockdown response.
Italy. Best example of that it is impossible to stop this virus. Lockdown won’t work, SD impossible in the end to stop a respiratory virus. The only thing is to increase hospital capacity, tell sick people to stay home and stop mass testing which is useless when the level of 1% of population infected. Very likely people get infected standing in line for test. Curfews etc meaningless and most likely increase transmission to elderly from young people confined to their homes.
“Terrifying. Sobering. Italy did everything “right” to stop a second wave. It came anyway. Health ministry data shows that 80.3 percent of the new infections “occur at home” while only 4.2 percent come from recreational activities and schools.”
https://twitter.com/NoahShachtman/status/1319260004768153600
https://www.thedailybeast.com/italy-did-everything-right-to-stop-a-second-wave-of-the-coronavirus-so-what-went-wrong
Time to ban being at home I think. Everyone to live on the streets.
But of the 16000 cases today 80% are asymptomatic.The table clearly shows this is a disease for the elderly just as in the spring peak.
Just saying my expressed negative outlook is not intended to demoralise. I have absolutely
nothing against the optimists on here, and in fact encourage them to prove me wrong.
In fact I want to believe them. But all of us have our own experiences and mine is mainly
one of a still sucked in, compliant majority, unquestioning of all the theatrics that makes me very despondent when I see it. Hence why I’m now reclusive and am very uncomfortable about having to actually attend my university hellhole campus. This isn’t to say I don’t welcome good news but it’s still so difficult to reconcile that with what I see on the ground.
KBO. Keep up with your course. Look after yourself.
Sorry for sounding like your mother.
Funny – your posts are quite encouraging but I can’t quite work out why!
The situation in universities makes me very cross, for personal reasons. I hope it gets better.
I know it’s easier said than done, but try to find some fellow sceptics at Uni with whom you can spend time.
I am fairly reclusive at the moment and in some ways happy to be so because non-sceptics are not good for me and it would end in tears, but close family and some friends are with me and that support is crucial.
DRW, I’m one of those ‘optimists’. Probably not the right word, as I’m deeply concerned for your generation as a mother of a 20 year-old university student and an 18 year-old on a gap year. The tide is turning, and I’m always guided by a quote from Chaucer’s Nun’s Priest’s Tale – ‘murder will out’ (it was the last time for many years I studied anything other than maths, chemistry, biology or combinations of those three!). This will end very quickly, brutally and unexpectedly, much like the fall of the Berlin wall and Nicolae Ceausescu. Please try to engage with your fellow students as I am sure there are many who feel the same way as you do. Stay strong.
I so hope you are right!
We keep saying that the tide is turning. I trust that it us, but by God, we need patience – and eventually, not so much a tide as a tsunami, to sweep these foul people away for ever.
DRW,
I count myself as one of the optimists.
The measures are only followed as they are because they have the force of law, because they are backed with huge fines and possible imprisonment, because the government is spewing money to buy consent and because a massive censorship and propaganda campaign holds the narrative in place for much of the population.
Don’t think that just because the hordes are running around in masks that they are on board with everything. They are going along to get along.That will continue untilit doesn’t.
The narrative is fraying by the day. The financial situation is clearly unsustainable.Eventually, all they will have left will be force.
In my opinion the really explosive events in this story are still to come, to be generated by the economy and the financial situation.
Multiple social, political and economic factors are unsustainable,
I am also one of these optimists. I was actually thinking about your comments today, and how I would respond to you. I know it seems like everyone is obeying these measures, but trust me when I say that people are beginning to see through the BS. I’ve spoken to many people within and without my circle and they all think it’s ludicrous. You may see people scuttling around with masks on, but I have the feeling that the vast majority of people are just going along with it because they’re worried about getting slapped with a huge fine, or suffering social ostracism if seen without a mask etc. It takes a lot of balls to go maskless when everyone else is covered up. Most people just want a quiet life.
My bf also monitors the BBC comments section because he sees it as a ‘litmus test’ of the nation’s mood and it used to be very pro-lockdown back in April/May, but it’s been very sceptical of late which is good to see.
I think a lot of people are very fed up and want this to end but aren’t really sure what they can do and are still just waiting for the government to end it all for them. I think the government will end it eventually due to unpopularity, they probably only have the political capital to try one more lockdown this winter (as unpopular as it will be) and then that’ll be it once we move into the lighter days of spring. Then it will have been a whole year in lockdown and we will have done all the seasons etc. Once we’ve got through a winter with Covid (which I don’t think will be very difficult) then they won’t have a leg to stand on. The money can’t go on forever either.
Well said, Poppy.
There will come a time when everybody except the terminal zombies will look around and realise that everybody is still alive and there is no pandemic and never was,
I keep deluding myself that the tide is turning, but I’m starting to resign myself to the fact that the rare good news stories are only gaining any currency or airtime because they are exactly that – rare – and therefore “news”.
Staying optimistic is really hard. But we have this site; and what optimism I still have mostly derives from the knowledge that there are others who feel this way, and that I’m not completely alone.
Another name for a conspiracy to harm is war by stealth, guile and deceit.
All the while we parley in the frame of carefully laid deceits of feigned incompetence, the further the tightening of regulatory structures grows around whatever freedom we still have but do not recognise because we seek reasonable response from those who are ‘playing us ‘ at every turn.
The cancel culture is rooted far deeper as an embodiment of the very thing it hates and seeks to destroy; namely systemic corruption in the human mind, identity, and learned or conditioned psychology,
The denial of God effects the denial of the Individual human being, by masking in rationalisations of a material system that is then leveraged, captured and controlled as the personification of control set over life.
The means to effect this is technologism which in terms of things is the marketisation and weaponisation of science, and in terms of fellow human beings is the intent to capture, manipulate and use people to gain the power of the system by which to then tool them to the controller’s will or design, which includes engaging the means to set them against their own good and against each other so as to allow the culling and cowing of those who remain without the means to support themselves without necessary services or contest their state.
The key to deceit is it induces us to use our mind to act against our true good.
As those already invested in self illusion are set to cling on and fight or flight (hide) rather than re-evaluate in a true light, the attempt to reach them is merely ‘babel’ and the madness feeds upon itself like a forest fire given air.
Where does the deceit find a basis of allegiance and support – ie a back door in your own thinking by which to use you as a proxy for its ‘revolution?
Perhaps in part from the unwillingness to look upon the evil of our own consequence, result or condition. I do NOT see evil as a basis from which to make an identity or validate a lack of substance by setting against it. But nor do I see its denial or masking over as actually addressing and undoing its effect in our minds, relationships and world.
Truly addressing something, is uncovering the causes where they are, rather than engaging in diversionary tactic that flags or assigns it to where it is not. The mind is a master of displacement, and we have generated a worldview of psychic displacements that can be warred on forever as a means to KEEP the problem, protect it from healing or resolution and use it as a basis for power over life while claiming moral authority.
Captured opposition doesn’t have to know it is effectively a proxy to serve the function, But the answers are always hidden behind that which we judge and identify against and so effectively exclude. This is never about persons, but principles, and the intent and ability to wall out no-go areas of thought, reveals where priority is being given.
The Canary Islands, Mykonos and the Maldives have just come off the government’s banned list. I’m not sure what the restrictions are from their own governments. But if there were a conspiracy to kill off international air travel for ordinary people, then it would seem an odd move.
It makes little difference when the threat of changes is still on the cards. All my clients desperate to travel, few with with masks and threat of quarantine. Also additional cost is tests required barrier to travel.
On the plus side, 2 bookings made today.
Excellent!
The problem is that the situation is so uncertain and subject to erratic government interference. It requires a lot of pre planning for an airline to commence regular flights to a location. Ground handling, maintenance, customer service and airport arrangements have to be put in place. The continuous chopping and changing makes this very difficult.
Suspect some senior MPs and government advisers have their holidays booked there for half term – cameras at the ready anyone!
The Canaries have managed to dodge the worst of the virus at all stages despite their heavily urban population and tourists. Lots of sunshine and everyone loves the beach, so maybe it’s the Vitamin D?
I love travel but am going nowhere under these conditions.
What’s the point.
Going ‘on holiday’ from one part of a prison to another.
Exactly. I’m not going anywhere where they have mandatory muzzles anywhere, which pretty much rules out everywhere apart from Sweden.
Anyone on here who does want to go for it though, and doesn’t already have their own friendly sceptic travel agent needing support, could use Sarigan (or any others on this page in the travel game?).
They have already done the damage.People won’t be able to afford a holiday next year
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-54648194 -this is just cruel -but what can anyone one do to stop it?
So alcohol is essential- to quiet the masses.
So apparently the justification for stopping supermarkets from selling ‘non-essentials’ is because it’s unfair on small businesses selling non-essentials who will be forced to close. But people will just turn to online shopping for non-essentials, so those small businesses will suffer anyway. Imagine policing what people buy and then causing more damage in the process. Total clowns.
In March they sucked the joy out of living. Now they’ve removed the hope.
This get more ludicrous every day. It’s bad enough making people wear masks and queue to get into the shops but now they’re dictating what we can buy. When are the masked masses going to start kicking back??
Can this be right? The Welsh Government (which primarily means the English taxpayer) is subsidising funerals of Covid fatalities from low income families. Maybe an incentive to ask the doctor to stick covid on the death certificate?https://gov.wales/advice-bereaved-coronavirus-covid-19#section-43605Financial assistance
During the pandemic, families may need extra financial support, particularly people who are not in receipt of income-related benefits, to help meet the cost of funeral expenses.
The Department for Work and Pension’s funeral expenses payments are available for people on a low income and claiming certain benefits or tax credits who need help to pay for a funeral they are arranging. It can help pay the burial fees for a particular plot; cremation fees, including the cost of the doctor’s certificate, the death certificate, travel to arrange or go to the funeral and the costs of moving the body within the UK if it is being moved more than 50 miles. In addition, financial assistance of up to £1,000 is available for other funeral expenses, such as the funeral director’s fees, flowers and coffin.
The UK Government also offers bereavement support payments, which are a one-off tax-free payment provided to the spouse or civil partner of someone who has died. This is a way to help with funeral costs, even for those not in receipt of benefits. The one-off payment is £2,500 or £3,500 if someone is in receipt of Child Benefit, followed by 18 monthly payments of £100 (£350 for those in receipt of Child Benefit).
Additional financial support might also be available to help from UK Government Budgeting Loans or Universal Credit Budgeting Advances.
Bereavement support?
It used to mean people coming to the funeral. And behaving towards you like human beings.
There is also this court case going ahead.
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/care-home-deaths/?utm_source=backer_social&utm_campaign=care-home-deaths&utm_reference=09409022acf2fb3425c7f9fa3f8495c3&utm_medium=email&utm_content=post_pledge_page
She’s makes a very strong case there
I’ve been out & about in the countryside today so I won’t have time to read the 1100+ comments. Good to see so much activity on the site.
A couple of decades or more ago, if I went for a long walk I tried to be self-sufficient, carrying enough food & drink to see me through the day. In more recent years I’ve succumbed to the temptations of pubs & cafés and often included one or two such refreshment stops along the way. Now I’m returning to my earlier habits, saving a few pounds which would otherwise go to these businesses, because:
1. Can’t be bothered with all the track & trace garbage, even if a manual version is available. Assuming I do it honestly (not a certainty):
(a) Objection in principle to my whereabouts being monitored.
(b) Concern about illegal retention and misuse of my data for marketing purposes etc.
(c) Concern about the chance of being told to self-isolate on probably dubious grounds or outright errors in the system.
2. Can’t be bothered with possibly having to argue about mask exemption. I don’t shy away from confrontation if it’s necessary but I don’t actively seek it.
Does anybody go into a pub or café and think “This is great! They’re very strict with the track & trace and the mask wearing! I really enjoy putting it on/taking it off when I stand up/sit down! These waitresses/waiters have such attractive eyes! (can’t see the rest of their faces) I feel very safe in here and I’m really enjoying the experience!”
More likely, anyone who would think like that will be too scared to go there at all.
For the record, today I had a pork pie, cheese roll, KitKat, apple and a bottle of water.
You are right. Interrogation on entry, sit where you are told. Don’t talk to or look at other customers.
Edward, totally feel the same when I am at the beach, seems the only place with peace.
Absolutely. Walk in in a good mood. Walk out in a foul temper. What’s the point if you can avoid it?
We never go near a pub, café or restaurant these days. Can’t take the s..t. Formerly, we ate out at least once a week, and dropped in for coffee somewhere mid-morning.
And now all Welsh eateries are being closed anyway. A lot of good their servile obedience has done them so far.
I spoke to a colleague today whose husband is Indian. I asked her what the situation is like there.
She said they didn’t have many deaths as young population, sunshine and they use ayurvedic medicine.
But the economy is suffering.
Very few care homes – ie concentrated vulnerable population.
Also – apart from the wealthy and Kerala – access to healthcare is poor and so very, very sick old people tend to die before they get to the state they do in the west.
More people are dying in the west because we keep people hanging on far longer than is natural
I suspect the rushed lockdown in India did far more harm than the virus ever could. Pakistan virtually abandoned their lockdown early on and they are doing fine.
That is because Imran has courage..
There’s an embryonic fb group too.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/726590428188548
The more I think about this the more I really find I agree with myself…..
They really thought that technology would save the day if this ever happened. They were so “smart” that prep was not necessary. We lived in the global age where a vaccine would be quick and easy and how could the smart ape not be smart enough to cope. SARS and MERS were obvious examples of how bad it is, have a cigar and relax world.
And when it looked like they had bollocked up their response and they were not in control and this could actually be worse than anything ever, global leaderships panic set in and try to show control…..
And everything else follows. Lack of prep and panic = absolute shit show.
I agree with yourself, more or less. I think the fact that the most powerful person in global medicine, is actually a tech salesman says a lot more on how we have a mistaken belief in technology, being the cure for every problem. Add to that a clash of cultures and ideologies, organisations that are embedded with corruption/incompetence and you have a perfect storm.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1319350579907313665.html
The best twitter thread with all relevant publications showing no effect of masks in excellent links
“Previously, the CDC described a close contact as someone who spent 15 minutes or more within six feet of someone who was infectious. Now, the agency says it’s someone who spent a cumulative 15 minutes or more within six feet of someone who was infectious over 24 hours, even if the time isn’t consecutive, according to an agency spokesperson.”
Double down.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/21/cumulative-time-covid-19-spread/
Either they cough over you or they don’t. Time has nothing to do with it. It’s just drivel.
You might just as well say 15 minutes within six feet, or 30 minutes within twelve feet, or one month within three miles for that matter. It would make as much sense.
Just talking can spread the virus.
https://www.pnas.org/content/117/22/11875
The airborne lifetime of small speech droplets and their potential importance in SARS-CoV-2 transmission “These observations confirm that there is a substantial probability that normal speaking causes airborne virus transmission in confined environments.“.
Breathing does.
Correct.But in talking and breathing aerosol particles rather close to the person,therefore distancing can help a bit.But sometimes aerosol spread over longer distances especially loud talk,singing much depending upon ventilation.
I can statistically say that if I am over 60 miles and 1670 hours away from my work colleagues I am 93% likely to be negative from a PCR test (7% false posits rate)
I can also say that in the height of a global pandemic with my office in a public building being in a public area with lifts, touch points, cafe, exhibition space, corridors and hundreds of different people every day that I found my self 100% immune to Covid.
….And I travelled on a train for 45 minutes and a tube for 30 minutes twice every single fucking day during the height of it. And I have pre existing significant health conditions !! Which have seen me take zero ZERO sick leave days in over 5 years….
Where is my bubble ? Where is my panic. Where is my victim card ? It’s nowhere because I am 100% not stupid, am in control of my life and my environment and understand life is for living not hiding.
In NZ they have a confirmed transmission with only 3 min contact in its latest cluster.They now are considering that even such contacts with only 3 min (which was earlier called casual contacts) might have to be isolating 2 weeks. This is aerosol transmission which no masks can stop and with SD very difficult to avoid.(Was it 3 m from all persons the only way to protect yourself for common cold virus in the Salisbury experiment 50 years ago?)
This is the original report
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6943e1.htm?s_cid=mm6943e1_w
An absolute read.Devastating for all maskfantics,eyegoggles Fauci!
One prison worker dressed in gown,goggles,mask,plastic gloves had about 1-2 minute contact with 6 asymptomatic prisoners with mask. That was consecutve 17 min over a 24 hour period and obviusly the prisonworker got the disease.This is aerosol transmission and masks don’t stop it.It is almost laughable that CDC now publish study after study where you can read in detail that masks are useless but they don’t say it yet!
Both Oxford and RBWM applied for Tier 2 restrictions and have been denied, it seems (RBWM later clarified they were asking for a ‘review’ to check they were in the best tier to avoid Tier 3; but originally they stated they were requesting that national government consider moving RBWM to tier 2). Are they just after some cash?! The eagerness of some officials for lockdown is disappointing.
Stoke volunteered and were accepted which just shows you should never volunteer
Stoke’s “The North”, you see.
Read about Oxfordshire earlier. Outrageous.
Many councils have lost huge amounts of cash eg from car parking and rents and are desperately trying to raise funds to stop having to place staff on furlough etc. There’s a lot of self interest
For anyone in stoke it may irk you somewhat to learn that Edinburgh council owns and/or runs the car parks on festival park. Look it up Edinburgh council.
This may sound silly but could I recommend that from now onwards we always spell covid in lowercase? I noticed recently it is nearly always written as Covid or even COVID. This use of the uppercase serves to highlight the word and I have no doubt this has been deliberate by those who seek to continually highlight it. The same goes for sars-cov-2. After all we don’t usually say ‘Billy Bignose has a Cold or Flu or Influenza’.
“SARS” is an acronym though, hence its capitalisation (and the “CoV” sort of is, being a contraction).
covid (if Brian prefers) stands for coronavirus disease, hence capitals in acronym too.
Haha (or haha) – it’s just seeing all the psychological manipulation they’ve thrown at us and this appears (to me) to be part of it. Maybe (probably) I’m just overthinking these things.
Snafu (perfectly describes this bollocks) is also an acronym and most generally don’t capitalise that
Yes – psychological manipulation. Like making sure everyone parrots their Newspeak words: Shield, Safe, Self-isolation, Social-distancing – as well as the worst one ”CASES”. (They probably couldn’t think of an ‘S’ word there.)
Fair point on the SARS bit.
Apologies, my phone always corrects covid to COVID!
Mines does that also. Despite not typing the word in capitals.
Kung flu or bat sniffles
Bats are the only mammal that flies. Such is the energy use for a mammal to fly with those funny leathery wings.. scientists think this is why the animal has an immune system that just accomodates viruses rather than waste energy like other mammals fighting viruses… hgence why scientists like to study bats.. they coexist with lots of viruses.. yet don’t get sick.
Very good point. Thank you.
One of those decisions I think I’ll make myself, thank you.:-)
It’s not silly. I’ve been very consciously de-capitalising words of late.
covid
government
minister
lockdown
law
great reset
parliament
new normal
police
None them deserve any emphasis as far as I’m concerned.
Autocorrect wants it capitalised and I can’t often be bothered to correct the autocorrect
Same with blm
Please listen to Mike Yeadon on the Delingpod on youtube .It’s one of the best yet ,so listen and get all your friends to do too.
There a link for that please?
https://delingpole.podbean.com/ or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbMJoJ6i39k
ta muchly
I’m half hour in and have already mailed it out.
Great .If this man is right then sage and the government are finished .
https://twitter.com/MacaesBruno/status/1318574993278668801/photo/1
In the middle of July Dr Fauci said that the Europe’s lockdowns had been successful. He said that opening up in the US at that time and the surge in the summer cases in the Southern states showed the dangers of opening up.Look at the death chart. Now Europe is quickly going up again. The lockdowns were useless. And Fauci spectacular wrong again.
But how do we escape
Borg,
As always, and right from the start, you are the MAN!
of course, should you identify with any other of the many available genderi, you are still up there.
Cheers
‘Long Covid’ makes me think of ‘Long pig’ and zombie coronanist cannibals.
They are devouring us, or rather, our lives, to ‘protect’ their vile little selves.
As I’ve got older I suffer from Long Hangovers
I’m suffering from Long Being Alive…
Reading that petition that’s being launched re ”protecting” the over 65s – am I the only one thinking that this person must be ”aving a larf”?
Or has it never occurred to him that most people would rather make their own decisions (regardless of age or state of health) or does he REALLY believe it’s up to the government to tell us how to live our lives at ANY age?
Totally agree. In a free society people should be allowed to make that decision for themselves. That is what his/her petition should be calling for, as if a petition were actually needed for such a thing.
‘In a free society people should be allowed …’
this SHOULD read:
‘In a free society people are entitled …’
The word ‘allow’ signifies permission which invites the question ‘from whom?’.
Exactly. In a free society people are not “allowed to ..”. nor are they granted privileges; “a driving licence (or passport) is a privilege, not a right”. Bullshit, big time!! We are entitled to things (with responsibilities in some cases), and the only privilege current in our country is the privilege we, the people, grant to government, to govern in our name for a period not exceeding five years.
And another thing – “government money”. Bullshit! No such thing. Governments don’t have any money. It’s tax payers’ money.
Absolutely correct! My error; poor choice of words on my part.
That pass was sold, rather, with the seatbelt laws, wasn’t it?
And last year the Government was upping the pension age as people were living longer and were fit to work at 66 years old. Now we want to protect the 65 year olds. Christ !
Email reply to Tesco update on how they are helping me to stay safe (grrrrrrrr) –
“We will not be visiting any of your stores (and therefore making any of the impulse purchases we normally would) until the ridiculous masks and t&t games are over.
The virus is NOT anything like as dangerous as the criminally manipulated figures would suggest. Please just look at the official data properly instead of the selected bits the government decides to show on the weekly fear-porn show.
We have been doing a click and collect shop with you, but if we receive even one more of these propaganda emails we will click and collect elsewhere.
Please remove us from the mailing list for these sickening emails. If I wanted your protection I would have asked for it.
If you and other retailers want to keep our custom, you should be standing against our tyrannical government, not propping them up. They are killing your customers – not a good long term strategy for you really I wouldn’t think.
Regards
Well said indeed. I don’t go into any premises that have one-way arrows or demand personal details just to give them my money. I walk out if they start playing the same silly, pointless, patronising words over their tannoy telling me to ”Shop Safe” (at least they could use correct grammar) or how I must keep two metres away from people in a four-foot wide aisle. As you say, if we want their ”protection” we’ll ask for it. Which brings me back to that ridiculous petition, as I mention below.
Incidentally, I NEVER wear a muzzle. A light piece of breathable, see-through silk serves, IF I get close to someone who looks terrified.
I have no choice I work at the bloody place, like walking around a dystopian science fiction movie :(.
Are you (Tesco) now haranguing customers into this Test and Trace crap?
Not me, ever!. The constant we have have introduced some social distancing measures blah blah baa over the tannoy make want to puke.
Of course the real culprits are Bozo and Handjob, but Tesco like others, should be doing only the absolute minimum necessary and they all need to stop harassing their customers, which is the height of madness.
Like CGL, I now only buy on line and then only the bare essentials needed to fend off starvation. I wrote to Jason Plonker the Tesco CEO some weeks ago when his tirade against unmasked customers appeared in my in box, but needless to say he hasn’t replied.
They are a corporate monster who have taken a massive rates relief package to bring in these bullshit measures (worth £585 Million, most of which they paid to their shareholders). What more can I say.
Shops (controllers of premises) are legally required to undertake evidence-based health and safety risk assessments.
If there is no evidence of a significant danger, no mitigation is required. Therefore, legally speaking it’s reasonable to assume that no NO restrictive measure is required in a retail setting. If one way systems, Gimp masks and hair gel are all in place it’s there only because someone daft has assumed they needed it all.
As for the overarching “law” well. Sorry the law is an ass. You can’t introduce non evidence based measures, not consider the risks they offer and get away with it. It’s only a matter of time till someone with money takes them to court. And wins.
Probably in the cafe. unfortunately where I work hardly any staff questioning anything. I feel very alone.
I just smile nicely at those people.
Tell them!
I’m doing my damndest to
Yep!
Rattle their cage a bit more! The Government has not done a Risk Assessment but it continues to be the business’s responsibility! The government has effectively thrown them under the bus…lets remind them! Dear Tesco, could you, please, provide me with a copy of the Risk assessment for…? ( I asked Asda and Sainsbury’s for the risk assessment on the face coverings they were “distributing” )
Bang on. Ask. And when it comes back, if it does. Remind them. . If there is no evidence of a significant danger, no mitigation is required. Risk Assessments need to be evidence based.
At the moment retail especially might as well do a Risk Assessment for a potential alien invasion. On the off chance it could happen.
How about all the training in PPE they have not provided to staff, something they can certainly be held resposible for.
When did people start getting flu jabs to protect others? priming people ready for the Kung Flu jab eh?
Actually it is how the flu jab works. In essence it promotes that wicked word ” herd immnunity. It reduces the number of people susceptable to infection. Of course people still get flu and some die because it is only 50-75 % effective.
Des will explain it ;
https://twitter.com/DesmondSwayne/status/1319298302538645504
I understand that, but in my life I’ve never ever heard anyone say they’re getting their flu jab not to protect themselves but to protect the public
Yes it is vaccine creep. SEPI mission statement to ensure strong markets for vaccines. Social shaming/guilt is an important marketing tool. Coercion by ones peers, or peer pressure with the public relatiins propaganda stripped away.
There is no sense in trying to understand the reasoning.
The word vaccine is being phased out. Jab/Spray etc. Less malign. Watch out for it. It’s intentional
50-75 pct effective???? Do you work for a vaccine maker. More like 10-60 pct.
Yes. Last year it was 17% effective.
If they were 100% effective we should be really worried – because vaccines don’t make old lungs healthy and young again. Old people’s lungs are still the perfect playground for pathogens. If you remove flu and Covid other novel pathogens will take up residence. That should ring alarm bells. Something truly deadly to young as well as old – something like Spanish Flu – might take up this environmental niche left vacant by vaccines.
When lockdowns and muzzling was successfully marketed under the “protect others” shit it was inevitable it would eventually done for vaccination. That’s just a warm up for the next big round of propaganda.
“I get my flu inoculation to protect my mates” . Needle, arm, injection
Imperial College.
Vomitworthy!!
Big carroty chunks.
Er… but only elderly/vulnerable and kids get it free and even then they run out most years don’t they? So why encourage healthy people to have it?
Err protecting others … that when put on a reduced heat to simmer for 30 minutes comes out as herd immunity. Yes it does. That is the principle at work when you are given a vaccine to protect the person next to you.
FUBAR.
Not for us Anglo-Saxons then?
Supermarkets told sell only essentials in Wales lockdown
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-54648194
WTAF!
The Welsh suicide mission is gathering pace. No doubt Bozo and Handjob will be looking to extend the madness into England if the Welsh just roll over again. Tyranny is all around us.
When will the Welsh grow a pair and fight back.
We have, but our opponent has unlimited power, and unlimited resources with no checks or balances on how they use them.
Only this morning, the barrister on Talk Radio thought that Drakeford doesn’t have the legal power to close the border with England. But he’s done it, and the police are enforcing it.
What the Welsh Assembly (not capable of being a government) is doing to us is inhuman. They are in a race to the bottom with sturgeon to see who can impose the greatest amount of suffering in order to score points from Borris.
When will anyone grow a pair and fight back?
Was interesting to see Desmond Swayne acknowledge the extra mail from constituents; he also pointed out all MPs were receiving extra mail. We’re trying/doing our bit.
An exercise for the collapse of global supply chains as a result of monetary crisis?
Sponsored by Amazon?
Back in March, supermarkets (mainly indoors) could sell plants etc while garden centres (mainly outdoors) could not trade. It seemed unfair so the theory is that if your local underwear shop can’t open then it is fair that supermarkets can’t sell underwear. But of course all you do, as has been mentioned, is go online so that instead of a local business getting the trade, someone miles away gets it. I’ll put an idea into Drakeford’s head -ban delivery of all non essential goods and make people even more miserable.
I think we need a strong lock-down for at least a year in order to get on top of the problem :
Lock up Drakeford, Wee Krankie, Mr Toad et al, for the duration – with no means of communication.
… and if the key gets lost …. well … that’s just a bonus.
It won’t hold. Supermarkets will sell everything they just like they did the first time. The idiot civil servants won’t put forward a list of essential items for retailers to follow. This will be a gesture to the small shops to pretend the big shops don’t have an advantage, but of course they really do.
I’d love to see the lobbying that the giant supermarkets have put forward to keep killing small retail and forcing the masses to the big stores. I’m certain that good old profit warning Tesco made it clear to Bo Jo that they need other retail shut.
Including booze, off-licences essential outlets too. They know that banning home drinking at this stage is too soon but it will come.
Fuck you Davos.. and your fake man-made climate change bullshite reset.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWqUCyHWDQk
Well, well what do you know! It is 332Km from Birchesgarten to Davos by car.
Charles Hugh Smith wasn’t specifically writing about the ”pandemic’, but he could have been:
“he only hope of a return to the real world is the collapse of the entire fake, staged status quo, the collapse of every institution, every media outlet, every social-media platform, every single manifestation of marketing, cons, scams, pitches, gamed statistics, and all the frantic assurances that fake is real and real is fake because your belief in the fraud is the key to closing the sale.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/everything-staged
25 dead and counting from south korean flu vaccination programme
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-southkorea-flushot-idUSKBN277058
Wow!
SK has been lauded for its low C-19 rate but they are seeing a slight increase now and with the cold dry winter coming perfect C-19 conditions. Everybody has said its test and tracking has been a success. But why don’t we hear more about what is happening? Any serological studies like in Tokyo? You got the impression that the cases were mainly in Seul and Daegu and not much in the rest of the country and most testing around specific clusters which seem to be a never-ending story since spring. The puzzling thing, they are not doing many tests per million.126 on a world scale after Dominican Republic. Are they doing any mass testing outside the clusters? What about cases in other parts of SK? How was the flu season this spring in SK? Considering that flu has disappeared in the Southern Hemisphere during their “winter” bad luck to start a massive flu vaccination campaign
They have dealt with outbreaks like this before, of course; they know how to deal with them. It could be they look out for areas with an increase in ‘unexpected’ deaths and concentrate testing there. Possible?
If I recall correctly before our own lockdown S. Korea had a worryingly high death rate until they randomly tested some tens of thousands.
This surprised them by discovering that a high proportion of the population proved to be have had the Covid already without noticing especially among the young.
Sound familiar ?
Repeat. This was before UK lockdown in March.
I have tried to list all the phrases describing what they are going to do to this virus;
Beat the virus
Suppress the virus
Defeat the virus
control the virus
whack-a-mole the virus
stop the spread of this virus
against our common enemy: coronavirus.
our fight against #coronavirus
winning the war on covid.
Then we can fight back against this virus
Crush and Contain the Coronavirus
We are making the tough decisions to get this virus down.
Beat back the virus
Push back the virus
Contain the virus
Bearing down on the virus
Get on top of this virus
curb the virus
Despite this extended lexicon of phrases I still do not have a clue what they are trying to achieve with all these lock-downs? I suspect that much of the public still think we are going for zero covid and that we will eradicate this virus although most of the powers that be do now seem to grudgingly acknowledge that elimination is not possible. But what do they think is the end game with all this? hard not to start to think that his is about more then just the virus.
The elephant in the room:
LEARN TO LIVE WITH THE VIRUS, BECAUSE THERE IS NO FUCKING ALTERNATIVE.
Shout it out!
Am doing!
If you substitute plebs for virus it makes total sense.
Sod the virus.
Too many vested interests that don’t want the Pandemic to be declared over anytime soon.
A rational discussion from the SCP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYmNN1J3cyY&feature=youtu.be
The only political party to oppose the shitfest. I’m backing them.
Become a member. They are as close to the money as any party I’ve seen.
I read Stacey Rudin’s piece for the AIER and I thought it was very perceptive, definitely worth reading. Then I read Kelly Tolhurst’s (MP) response to a constituent’s letter, reproduced above, and I wanted to weep. How is it that this country has an elected representative that is willing to put her name to that?
It was a car crash of a letter, hopefully it will haunt her for ever
Or, until the Tumbril Cart calls…
My MP writes total bollix, spewing the government line, but at least she does it in English.
On a rolling 5 year average basis the death rate in Wales is the lowest in years. Last graph at the bottom of this page:
https://euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/
Should absolutely devastate the narrative, but it’s still panic stations everywhere
Because there’s always ‘in two weeks’. The sheep go along with it because they allow the thinking box to decide their reality.
Those charts are astonishing. That looks nothing like a pandemic bad enough to destroy our lives.
I’ve been telling this to people I meet for weeks now, but they give me this strange ‘cannot compute’ look.
This is no time for complacency..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFrdqQZ8FFc
Yes – indeed the whole aburd panoply of distancing and other rules is straight out of Monty Python.
Monty Python looks sane in comparison.
Summary: They are double counting positive tests.
“He (Jason Leitch) said: “I’m hopeful costs now may get us a more family Christmas. But Christmas is not going to be normal, there’s absolutely no question about that.
“We are not going to be in large family groupings, with multiple families coming round – that is fiction for this year.”
Bugger. Off.
Unelected dentist won’t dictate family life!
Not in my house!
What’s the betting: are they going to ‘give’ us Christmas, at the risk of looking weak and of bursting their own narrative (as Christmas minglin will not lead to megadeath, suggesting that the lockdowns have been pointless); or will they cancel Christmas with threats of massive fines, oodles of fear porn, and lots of burley enforcers tramping the streets on Christmas morning? If they go for the latter, they do risk mass disobedience and making an inconveniently large number of martyrs. But so far, there has been precious little disobedience, so perhaps our rulers have nothing to worry about on that score.
They’ll allow Rule of Six, thus ensuring most families still can’t meet, then blame us for the “surge” (third wave) in the new year. Then back into lockdown until the summer.
You say ‘can’t.’ What if families do meet anyway?
If the regime turns a blind eye its authority is shot; if it enforces in the teeth of large scale defiance, the regime’s legitimacy is shot. Fun times.
If they cancel Christmas, and the people let them, it’s over.
It’s never over. Just keep doing what you want to do.
I certainly hope not. I just think that if the public let them away with this, the powers that be will know they can get away with just about anything.
Yes. If people go along with that, society as we have known it is dead.
Mass non compliance is inevitable.They haven’t got the resources to police such a law and the police fining granny on Christmas Day is something they would never recover from.
There is already a lot of non observance of restrictions in Tier 2 London from normally law abiding middle class types.
Catching up on some of the insane detail about Christmas in krankie & leech land. This below from perhaps the most well known pub in Inverness:
“Don Lawson, owner of the Inverness bar Johnny Foxes, told the Press and Journal that the Government should ban alcohol sales in supermarkets and off-licences to save pubs.
“He said: ‘Pubs are facing an unprecedented crisis and the jobs and livelihoods of hundreds of thousands of people are in jeopardy.
‘Many of our beloved pubs are at real risk, with significantly reduced trade and increased costs as a result of questionable restrictions.”
This is biblical scale stupidity by Mr Lawson. He needs a sharp cup off coffee. He went on:
“I feel the answer to the hospitality conundrum is as follows, that the Scottish Government bans all alcohol sales in supermarkets and off-licenses, including off-sales in pubs and restaurants.
“‘Allow the sale of alcohol to be restricted to pubs and restaurants – this will boost local economies and safeguard thousands of jobs.’
“Reacting to the proposal, Stuart McPhee, the director of Siberia Aberdeen and spokesman for the Aberdeen Hospitality Group, said: ‘I’m all for trialling anything. It’s as radical an idea as any.
“‘I’ve certainly advocated a few ideas such as shutting down premises who are not following the rules.
‘We need to be working as an industry alongside the Scottish Government to find a solution, given that we’re the third-biggest employer in the country.’”
And that is how bad industry has failed in Scotland. An absolute joke. These business owners and umbrella groups have not yet grasped their risk assessments are not complete or sound. Yet they can spout thorough insane nonsense in the press as though they are impressive big shots. You men are wrong and leading the way to the ruining of your own livelihoods and that of countless thousands of others.
Source:
https://broread.com/2020/10/22/santa-is-a-key-worker-nicola-sturgeon-forced-to-make-bizarre-tv-address-to-scottish-children/
‘Santa is a key worker’: Nicola Sturgeon forced to make bizarre TV address to Scottish children
Yes that is a lie Sturgeon told today from pulpit.
They are so conflicted that any solutions put forward are in a trap. They think that if they just stick to the rules and cry for a bailout, things will be OK. Take this pathetic attempt by business leaders in Northern Ireland to save us from Coronavirus. Punished yesterday.
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus/revealed-plan-to-rescue-economy-and-halt-covid-39644408.html
Their solution boils down to hand sanitiser stations in city centres. Better comms from government and Covid Marshalls
Absolutely pathetic stuff.
Taps-on for a top up as Edinburgh gets five new public refill stations
A Scotland-wide network of public water refill taps that allow people to top up their refillable bottles while on the move is being further expanded – with Edinburgh set to get five more.
Wednesday, 21st October 2020, 12:30 pm
Edinburgh news local rag for more.
~absolutely pathetic stuff~
Don’t begin to think about viral fear and communal drinking fountains.
When Krankie is thrown over a very high cliff, all the taps will run with whiskey.
Also, speakers in the city to play soothing music – i feel like saying Telford for that information but not certain. It is a genuine thing being done somewhere, intended to us all. To improve the atmosphere the news article said.
They do that in totalitarian countries, in between broadcasting. government propaganda.
Couldn’t happen here.
Oops.
Yeah, their main aim is to ‘ensure compliance’. A fully functioning slave state.
I knew once they had knackered the licenced trade they would go for the home drinkers but did not expect calls to come from that direction.
Nick Cave appears to be pretty sceptical about lockdowns too…
https://www.theredhandfiles.com/pet-theory-your-creativity-flourish/
When you hear Mike Yeadon call Patrick Vallance a liar live on the Delingpod and then tell him to sue him you know it’s a good day .
He did this weeks ago on twitter.
My MP is one of the five Tories who voted to keep the school meals going!
https://votes.parliament.uk/Votes/Commons/Division/896
He really does seem to care and to do his best for his constituents.
Unfortunately, he also believes we’re in the middle of a deadly pandemic and that YouGov is a reliable source of info.
Can’t win em all!
Honestly, I don’t understand why school meals should be provided during half term.
There are children who only ever eat a real meal at school.
Lazy ignorant parents, selfish spending
Well, that’s an unpleasant over-generalisation.
How cone they didn’t all starve to death while schools were. closed?
And how do you know that some didn’t starve, even if not “to death”? Using the word “all” is hyperbolic. As a former “poor child”, we rarely had enough to eat. I can’t imagine how some parents are managing to keep their kids fed now.
You clearly don’t understand the extent of the poverty that 10 years of “austerity” created in this country.
Why do you think food banks were unheard of before?
You can feed a family of four on a chicken that costs a couple of quid at the super market.
If someone gave out free money on street corners does that mean the people taking it are “poor”. Most people using food banks are not starving, they are effectively topping up their incomes.
That said I do support nutritious free school meals on the basis that we allow so many drug addicts and others to bring up children, and they simply won’t or can’t care for their children properly.
“Most” people using food banks, etc, etc…. An over-generalisation unless you actually work at a food bank and are privy to information about their clients.
Feeding a family of four on one chicken? Well, not if you do not have a proper kitchen to cook that chicken in. If you do not have money to pay for a refrigerator or the electricity to power it.
In my current living situation, I have a microwave and a one-ring hot plate. I guess I could make chicken soup or stew, but I don’t have enough space to store the result for any length of time so it would be breakfast, lunch and dinner. And I consider myself better off than a lot of people these days.
Can we stop with the over-generalisations, please?
Well said. someone I know who cares for her severely disabled daughter and her grandson had to use the food bank as she was late posting her daughter’s PIP forms due to waiting for a letter from a consultant and lost all her benefits. There must be many more people in such situations.
Lazy parents
Lazy post.
Tim Worstall is very good on this
Can you give a link, please?
https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/the-glorious-1000-rise-in-the-number-of-food-banks
https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/the-glorious-1000-rise-in-the-number-of-food-banks
Just listening to Julia Hartley Brewer interviewing, in turn, Spephen Timms, Andrew Bridgen and Bernard Jenkin.
…. and this is the quality witlessness in the HoC???? Totally devoid of basic numeracy, basic knowledge and basic honesty. ???
Even total wankers have some end in sight.
Jenkin by far the most sinister, you can tell he knows.
Anything else your crystal ball can tell you?
Well I’m pleased that the fact that most MPs are not very bright (or at least not scientifically literate) is beginning to get through!
Sometimes smells carry quite far in a house between rooms even though the air is seemingly still. I was curious so I did a search on “how fast do air particles move” and this is the first thing that came up:
Think about that for a moment. Air (gas) quickly spreads to fill a space. The particles are bouncing off each other at great speed and knocking each other all over the place.
Now think about what might happen to virus particles that are small and light enough not to be overly influenced by gravity.
Which is fairly close to the speed of sound at sea level. Acoustics is not my specialist area but it can’t be a coincidence.
I’d be cautious about making these sorts of inferences unless you have a genuine grasp of the science in these matters.
Nobody (I think I can be confident in asserting this) really knows how viruses move in air.
And viruses are very complex entities a great deal larger than individual molecules of air.
“Now think about what might happen to virus particles that are small and light enough not to be overly influenced by gravity.”
Are there any? I don’t know.
Exactly right. Over-simplistic thinking is what got us into this mess. Our brains are not suited to visualize the effects of air pressure, this is a valid job for computer modellers.
Mike Yeadon says that virons have “bugger all” mass.
Adapnation podcast.
Think what happens to virus particles that are exposed to oxygen and uv light!
Air. Oxygen 2 atoms. Nitrogen 1 atom. Carbon dioxide 3 atoms.
Virus. Protein coat many molecules. Rna core many molecules. Spread in water droplets.
Ie virus much larger. And heavier. And in the water droplets.
Thus virus is not likely to be knocked about by air.
I think.
Virus not airborne per se, limited range, thus close prolonged exposure required for transmission.
Some studies have shown that virus particules can “hang” in the air for hours. It is highly unlikely they would be fixed to a single spot as if in stasis.
Quite. In strong sunlight you see many thousands of motes – dust etc – floating on the air. Viruses being much smaller are going to be in there too, I’m sure.
“Air. Oxygen 2 atoms. Nitrogen 1 atom. Carbon dioxide 3 atoms”
What? You seriously think there’s less nitrogen than oxygen and carbon dioxide?.
I’m pretty sure Maccynic isn’t referring to the proportion of elements in air (about 80% nitrogen if I recall), but how they occur as individual molecules: O2, N CO2.
Brownian motion.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownian_motion
We can calculate the speed of a molecule or virus from a relatively simple relationship between kinetic energy and Kelvin temperature (degrees Celsius plus 273), since the kinetic energy is proportional to temperature. Kinetic energy is proportion to the speed squared of the particle and also to its mass. If all particles in the room are at thermal equilibrium they will have the same kinetic energy . The speed of the nitrogen molecules will be around 600 m/s at room temperature and, as pointed out, virus particles will be much slower because of their much higher mass.
Donald Trump speaking at a campaign rally in North Carolina on October 21st:
“That pandemic is rounding the corner. They hate it when I say it. You turn onto this MSDNC and fake news CNN, all you hear is, “COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID.” That’s all they put on, because they want to scare the hell out of everyone. The more testing you have, the more cases. They say, “Cases are up.” Yeah, testing is up. We have more testing than India, China, and almost every other country put together. You could say it’s ridiculous. At the same time, we did a good job, but it shows a lot of cases. And thank you. He said, “Great job.” We did do a great job. Normal life will fully resume, and next year will be the greatest economic year in the history of our country. That’s where we’re headed.”
Amazing to hear something positive from a politician.
Imagine Johnson saying:
“You turn on fake news BBC, all you hear is, “COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID.” That’s all they put on, because they want to scare the hell out of everyone.”
and:
“Normal life will fully resume”
That I should live to applaud Trump!
I know right!
Aye. Strange times
James Delingpole has interviewed Dr Mike Yeadon at length. It’s definitely worth listening to, but it is very long, so give yourself some time to listen.
What Yeadon says does echo what I had been thinking, but unlike myself (a chemistry graduate) Yeadon has the specialist qualifications to give what he says some real clout:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbMJoJ6i39k
It’s rather sobering at times. It’s essentially over, but is being kept going by the absurd testing regime which is picking up large numbers of false positives.
I’m only half way through, but it really is very good. He explains things very clearly and concisely without veering off course. It really needs to be spread far and wide. I can’t believe I didn’t know he worked in same lab as unbalanced!
“I can’t believe I didn’t know he worked in same lab as unbalanced”
He has actually called out Vallance on twitter for the corrupt shill he is
It’s a great interview. 3/4 of the way through, fascinating stuff.
I’ve just finished listening to it – brilliant.
Can’t recommend it highly enough.
Terrific – well done to interviewer and interviewee.
Excellent, listened all the way through.
‘The Pandemic isn’t over because SAGE say it isn’t over’.
Great to have such a succinct heavyweight on board but I think everything Mike said has been covered by one or other of our expert and knowledgeable readers despite LS now being so busy I don’t have time to read all the contributions every day.
Yes, a very good and essential listen and I believe he is correct when he says that his peers all know he is right and they all know it is over and there is no mythical second wave.
It is a bit chilling when an academic can’t fathom out why we are being treated as we are and even more chilling when his opinion is ‘it is over when SAGE decides it’s over’.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54648684
It would be comical if it wasn’t so tragic – but here is the BBC telling us why the virus is so deadly, despite all the evidence that it is not. Please someone defund the BBC….
It’s not deadly if you’re aged under 25 and live in Scotland; 0 deaths in that group.
We’re on here because we’re beyond needing to be convinced the cure is much much worse than the illness (though it’s difficult to convince many sheeple who’ve had the bjesus scared out of them by Project Virus Fear) but my question is why?
Wow. Just wow. That may just be the biggest load of bollocks I have read in months. And a month is a long time right now!
More than BS it’s actually deceitful propaganda that most of the population unfortunately take as gospel truth (‘It’s the BBC, why would they lie? They get their news from the Government ‘). If it’s so lethal, why aren’t 300k+ dead?
They pinched that from the Daily Mash
I no longer need evidence of the pointlessness of the lockdown and the ridiculous government/MSM fear mongering of the virus (99.9% survivable). Please please someone tell me to ignore my rising sense of doom and foreboding to what is going on.
I absolutely don’t want to buy into the conspiracy theories, but otherwise WHY? What is going on? At what point does a conspiracy theory become the bleeping obvious? (Given the unbelievability of where we are now)
I’m not into conspiracy theories myself but the only other ideas I can muster are some sort of contagious mass hysteria (think of those mass fainting incidents in schools) or that aliens are holding our leaders’ families hostage.
Bleeps are way too polite!! Tourette’s is the new pandemic.
Political cowardice and vanity, and evil really I think now because they know it is nonsense, enabled by mass hysteria/mental block (people in rich countries have rediscovered death) with the addition of interest groups pushing agendas
Yes. They’re on a tightrope, with political oblivion – or frankly, even criminal charges – as the result of overbalancing. They can’t admit they can’t control the virus, can’t admit they shouldn’t have tried in the first place, can’t admit they should have stopped trying in June and can’t admit that everything they’ve done has been pointlessly destructive.
It’s the result of vanity, ambition and extreme selfishness. It will crumble once the political mood shifts – and very quickly at that.
I agree with everything up to the last sentence. The situation is being very carefully curated to prevent the political mood from shifting. Institutionally it’s sufficiently locked in to survive majority opposition from the public. Just carry on with pravda polling and rely on a lack of real choice when (if) there is finally an election.
This will not crumble. It has to be crumbled. And we have no institutional backing to make that happen.
We’ve seen in the last few months how easily the public mood can be manipulated, certainly. But you can’t do it forever. Not just in comments online, but more generally, you can sense the shift in opinion. Yes, some people are still completely committed to the narrative, but there are fewer and fewer of them. We don’t need an institution- we’re getting closer to the point where even the mainstream media is going to be making more room for sceptical voices, because they’re ultimately led by public opinion, even though they like to think they shape it.
Admittedly, it’s taking months longer than I thought it would, but it is coming.
I think the Government fear losing face as they have invested so heavily in their crazy policies. Also there is so much money invested in testing, vaccines and so on.
Icke spelled it out back in March and his 13 year old youtube channel with tens of millions of views was deleted as a result. Don’t expect the phony freespeechunion to have his back though.
I want to say “thank you” to everyone who posts &/or comments on here & also on the forum…by sharing your knowledge, experiences, opinions & so on you have genuinely assisted me in holding on to the few remaining threads of my shredded sanity – respect to you all. Peace x
Hear, hear! I completely agree with this sentiment. Additionally, I’d like to point to the open atmosphere that welcomes all political stripes, spots, stars, lozenges, etc.
Coronavirus in Scotland: Traces of covid19 found in waste water of almost every Scottish area
Scientists have found fragments of coronavirus’s ribonucleic acid (RNA) in waste water samples from the majority of Scotland’s health board areas, according to an environmental body.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-scotland-traces-covid19-found-waste-water-almost-every-scottish-area-3012612
Possibly because the primary method of transfer may be the same as Norovirus or Polio ( foecal contamination) Airborne aerosols is 2ndary.
This is a theory that more closely fits observed infection patterns and why strict handwashing brings it to an alnost complete stop.
Of course it means all the anti social stuff, masks etc is a complete waste of time.
https://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=239747&page=1
As an acknowledged coronavirus expert located in China at the time of the outbreak so informed us 06 Feb:
‘With Sars once it was discovered that the virus was spread through the fecal oral route there was much less emphasis on the masks and far more emphasis on disinfection and washing hands. HK has far more cleanliness (than China) and they are very aware of social hygiene. And other countries will be more aware of the social hygiene (than China). So in those countries you should see less outbreaks and spreading. A couple days ago the fecal-oral route of transmission was confirmed in Shenzhen. In China, most of the latrines are open- there’s more chance of phermites being spread. But in other countries the sanitations systems tends to closed. My personal view is that this will be a bad cold and it will all be over by May.’
Prof John Nicholls, coronavirus expert, Univ. of Hong Kong 06 Feb
Well he wasn’t wrong 》”all be over by May”
If you’re right, then it means that the nappies and all the face touching that goes with them is actually accelerating the spread not preventing it. I do hope someone points that out to our great leader.
Karl Denniger has posted extensively on this, there are too many sandcastles constructed on masks for the establishment to admit it though.
I have said this before but the RNA debris is EVERYWHERE, in the surface water, in the groundwater, and in the air hence the PCR positivity rate is increasing due to cross contamination with no associated increase in people getting sick or dropping dead..
We must shut down the sewage system immediately to keep everybody safe.
Better make it illegal to drink water, too, since most of it will end up down the loo.
Transmission of SARS Covid 1 was proven to be possible from human waste, so this is no surprise. I think it’s likely a primary transmission pathway rather than a secondary.
This also demonstrates the absurdity of the PCR testing of the community. Using the exact same PCR test used on individuals to declare them positive, you can still detect the virus in water that has been diluted, passed down pipes, aerated and mixed with other chemicals, eg toilet fresheners, detergents and chlorine.
Exactly right! They’ve determined that it was apparently in waste water back in November of last year.
I’ve mentioned a couple of times that they’ve been mass testing the sewers for weeks and it is this that determines lockdown locations rather than cases (of so I’m told by a DofE lab worker).
As light relief you must incorporate a daily section for the most ridiculous articles from around the world.
I was inspired by an article of such stunning naivete and stupidity in the NYT this evening, that it is recommended for light amusement for anyone struggling with the ‘looking glass’ world we live in:
The Coronavirus Has Claimed 2.5 Million Years of Potential Life in the U.S., Study Finds
Struggling here not to be deeply depressed and disheartened by what’s going on – that initially made me angry from way back at the beginning in March. Now, beyond sceptical, I’m full of pure fear, not of the virus but of what’s being done in the name of the virus.
I do agree with you. This is a disgusting sick situation made all the worse by the fact that it’s totally unnecessary. Young people in particular have had their lives ruined for no reason. But sometimes, as well as being thoroughly disgusted by how supposedly clever people can say the stupidest things, a bit of dark humour comes through. Look at Simon Wood from Edinburgh university for a comparison of how many life years are lost to lockdown.
And how many years of life lost through lockdowns? Those of us still alive have had months of our lives ruined through not being given a free choice how and if we wanted to try and protect ourselves.
This is why it’s so deadly https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54648684
Our immune system cannot cope with this new virus when we’ve managed for the last 2 million years!
More propagnda for the brainwashing. As we know it’s not harmful for most and then only for those with a very weakened immune system.
If such deadly worldwide Pandemics come around every ten years or so we are the genetic Survivors of 200,000 such attacks.
Thanks, think I’m going to put that on my C.V
In the grander scheme of things, we are the genetic survivors of several million years of human co existence with everything from wild animals to bacteria and viruses. Which formerly acted to weed out the infirm and prevent their reproduction; no longer.
I notice e that no comments are allowed on this garbage.
James Gallagher is a sinister piece of work. Fearmeister numero uno.
Then underneath a link to an article on how to work out if you’ve the deadly plague or a cold or flu!
If it hasn’t already been said, the reason the BBC broadcast that wonderful 83 year old woman from Barnsley is that they are so far up their own arses that they assumed she would become a target of ridicule* and derision.
Instead of which she is lauded throughout the land as a normal person talking Common Sense.
*cf Alf Garnett
Yes, that has been my experience. They are not as clever as they think they are – they are so sold on themselves as unfailingly wise they can’t believe anyone would doubt them
She was also put on first in the sequence, followed by a number of coronanists. I think this is a tactic used by the BBC when they want to create an impression of ‘balance’. Deal with the tricky thing first – it even looks as though you’re eagerly and bravely tackling a contentious issue without ducking it. But then introduce ‘But some scientists say that this approach is flawed because…” and then carry on to the end of the piece demolishing the original claim without any ‘right of reply’ for the original claim. Job done.
Except that it is only the clip of her that has been uploaded all over the place and featured in the Daily Mail.
the mindset of the BBC producer belongs to another world. I remember an anecdote about Only fools and horses where a senior executive attended a recording. After, he took the writer aside and asked “why do the audience laugh when Delboy says he lives in Nelson Mandela House?”
although I won’t be too harsh on the Beeb. The background to the Susan Michie/ Sunetra Gupta feature recently was hilarious.
I listened with interest to Peter Hitchens interview on Talk Radio
He describe how the seemingly immovable regimes of the Eastern Bloc were swept away in the blink of an eye
He then went on to say he would never do anything illegal to bring down this regime
Interesting point. Many of the acts undertaken by the freedom fighters of the Eastern Bloc were illegal at the time according to the regime’s under which they lived
I don’ remember those who shot Mr and Mrs C the tormentors of Romania getting prosecuted
At what point does it become acceptable to throw off your oppressors whatever the law may be?
When, first, you can’t stand it any longer, and, second, you have a leader.
PH has to be careful otherwise he’ll lose his platform – the MoS would fire him in an instant if he advocated lawbreaking openly
As far as I know he goes maskless and believes he is exempt under the severe distress clause – a sort of civil disobedience
He has said he doesn’t regard rules brought in under the SIs as proper law, the implicatiob being they can be ignored
Sumption said we’re under no moral obligation to obey unjust laws and that they should be given “secondary importance” behind doing what we feel is right
They’ve both been excellent advocates for the core sceptical position that the response is disproportionate – both actually quite radical actually. If I rememver correctly Hitchens thought it was disproportionate even when Ferguson’s prediction was still not completely discredited
Interesting on Sumption – do you have a reference for that? Not nit-picking, just intrigued to find out more about his views on legitimate law breaking.
He said in an online interview with Joshua Rozenberg that he had himself broken one of the Coronavirus rules when it was absurd. There were subseqent interviews (LBC with Tom Swarbrick, Planet Normal podcast with Allison Pearson) where he expanded on this. He has been writing in the Speccie on Covid since May (and lately in the Sun and the Mail). I search almost daily for what he is saying – has a new one in Speccie today that I am about to read. I hope he is giving input into Dolan’s team in the background.
Thanks – didn’t know he had a new Speccie one – I’ll check that now.
First define what is legal. Unjust laws are not legal – we now have a situation where rules conjured up by civil servants are passed as diktats and assumed as laws, which they are not in the real sense of law, as we have understood it for the past few centuries. How many thousands of lawyers are in this country, where are they in confirming the power of English common law and how it cannot be superseded by Willy nilly diktats, just like the recent assumption of the Met to demand ID.
Its reported below that the Police are manning the non-existent Ango-Welsh border (to deny entry or exit ?)
No sign of them yesterday. And the volume of traffic at rush hour across the border between chester and wrexham, a major commuter route, seemed normal. Drakeford’s plan is unworkable.
First define legal. Simples. There is statute law, including Statutory Instruments which are drafted by lawyers not conjured up by civil servants, and there is case law, precedents created by decisions in settled cases. No idea what you have in mind re Met police and ID. But their actions are ultimately governed by either statute or case law, in UK.
I’m no philosopher but the idea that it is just for citizens to overthrow a repressive regime has been around for a very long time.
Indeed one complaint about the Good Germans during WW2 is why they didn’t.
There were several attempts.
In the case of communism, there was a prosperous, free, outside world that the people could aspire to join. But in our case (Covid) there is no outside world, because all governments have decided to commit economic suicide and become de facto communist at the same time. I think our situation is set to be worse than the Eastern Bloc
Very very good question Cecil
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9pm3Z6nFnk&feature=youtu.be
Anybody else love Jane Austen?
I’ve been sorting her characters into Bedwetters, Covid Marshals and Sceptics, and it’s remarkably easy.
Bedwetters: Mrs Bennet (Kitty’s ill-timed coughs,,, horror!), Mary Musgrove, Mr Woodhouse (would have Emma locked in her room 24/7 to keep her safe), Mr Collins, Mrs Price, Mrs Musgrove, Harriet, Miss Bates, Isabella Knightley
Covid marshals: Aunt Norris, Lady Catherine de Burgh (daily snooping visits to every household on the estate), John and Fanny Dashwood, Elizabeth Elliot, Lucy Steele, Augusta Elton, Mrs Ferrars
Sceptics: Jane and Elizabeth Bennet, Mr Bennet, Mr Darcy, Fanny Price, Edward Bertram, Mrs Jennings (flappy on the surface, but fundamentally sound), Charlotte Lucas, Elinor Dashwood, Edward Ferrars, Admiral and Mrs Croft, Ann Elliot, Captain Wentworth, Henry and Mary Crawford, Emma Woodhouse, Mr Knightley, Mr John Knightley
Plus:
too drunk to care: Mr Price
perpetually ransacking Bath for the most fashionable face mask: Sir Walter Elliot
in lifelong voluntary lockdown anyway: Lady Bertram
out with a large party shooting grouse: Charles Musgrove
Unable to get a word in edgewise: Jane Fairfax
Can I do one for Simpsons?
Chief Wigham= The dictator
Ralphy= Handy Cock
Mr Burns = Bill Gates
Dr Hibbert = any government scientific advisor
Ralph = Bojo.
Lisa = our Ann, the voice of reason
And that case only came to an end when there was no money left.
Yeah.
They found the missing will in the Old Curiosity Shop
Victory was theirs, justice was achieved, only to go back to court to find all the money had been spaffed on lawyers
In the opening chapter Dickens writes that there should be a warning sign above the entrance to the court ‘ Suffer any indignity known to man rather than enter this place’
You have been warned Mr Dolan (summer holiday x 12 anyone)
Quilp=Witless Witty.
Great stuff. Love Jane Austen and Persuasion is one of my favourite novels.
What about Emma Woodhouse? Where would she be?
Spot on about Mr Woodhouse. He would be one of those who hasn’t left the house since the beginning of the year.
Oh I agree with you about everyone except Fanny Price. She’s a zealot, one of the few zealots in Austen. When practically everyone else in the novel gets symbolically smited at the end, it’s the force of her pseudo-submissive rage and will to power that is being channelled at last. She’d wear a mask indoors – whenever she left her own room – and would avoid sitting near guests in the drawing room who had not masked up. She’d be round all the local cottages on dawn visits of ‘support,’ distributing masks to toddlers and leaving simple sewing patterns so the women could make more.
I might distinguish also between lockdown sceptics and Lockdown Sceptics. Jane and Elizabeth Bennett: sceptics. Henry and Mary Crawford: Sceptics. Mary, for example, reads LS every morning over breakfast, cherishing the contributions of, eg, Cecil B and your own good self, Annie; Henry is a big fan of Toby’s and of swedenborg, and can usually quote the most recent devastating statistics on seroprevalence or the IFR.
This has really cheered me up. The comment about Sir Walter made me snort in a most unladylike manner!
You are very clever and funny Ann. How about a whole reworking of Pride and Prejudice covid style to keep us all amused!!
Oh, Mr Darcy, I couldn’t possibly dance with you unless………
I love it, spot on!
Repeat testing means the same individual can be counted multiple times
https://twitter.com/2still_learning/status/1319263206465044480
Double plus good
Words do not equal action. Also, a very different set of circumstances in N. Ireland compared to the rest of the country.
I’m sure everyone knows what I’m alluding to.
No I don’t
They push their bollox too much there and the armalites won’t be long in reappearing…
I’m sure you knew that anyway, chief
The news item on Italy is interesting;
https://twitter.com/NoahShachtman/status/1319260004768153600
It begs a range of questions as to how this virus operates?
Although as lock-down sceptics the glaring point is that the observations from Italy indicate that lock-downs are pointless.
It seems to me that this virus is roaming about in the same ubiquitous random fashion as the common cold and our chances of controlling it are about as likely as controlling the common cold which we have never achieved.
My take on the observations from Italy are;
lockdown isn’t about a virus anymore. it’s about a great reset aka a great depression with the pretence it is helping the environment…..
That much is obvious.The recent lockdowns should convince anyone that this is no longer incompetence,knowing they were planned for a few months in advance
Here’s some advice from your digitally distanced careers advisor.
You know your trouble, Mr Martindale?
You got a brain.
I hope you’re not considering a career in politics, local government, public health, university administration or teaching, ’cause having a brain is just a no-no.
Go remove every sign of intelligence from your CV, then press ‘Reset’.
And don’t join the police either. It ain’t about catching the bad guys. Having a brain would restrict your career to the lowest ranks where you would go slowly insane
And don’t forget the “Funny handshake”
Whisper it.
Covid-19 behaves like the common cold because it IS the common cold!
^^^yep.
And we have no vaccine for the common cold because, ultimately it’s never been necessary to thrown billions of pounds at it because in the massive majority of cases people are just fine.
With respect Steve perpetuating the virus myth is not so helpful.
Criminal means by which the myth is being upheld
Worldwide facist coup nothing whatsoever to do with a virus
focus on the submicroscopic to hide the monstrous
THE oldest population in Europe.
See report from 2015 in italian:
A mass murder or mere statistical data? The 2015 surplus of deaths
When on 11 December 2015 the newspaper Avvenire published the article by the demographer Blangiardo entitled “Beware of the dead”, many of us, used in analyzing mortality data, were stunned. We immediately thought that we were faced with a registration error: 45,000 more deaths in just eight months had never been observed and someone even compared them to the dead of the First World War, thus evoking an event that perhaps – as we will see later – is the explanation, but less evident than one might think.
https://www.safetylit.org/citations/index.php?fuseaction=citations.viewdetails&citationIds%5B%5D=citjournalarticle_514085_37
It must be because people are not wearing the masks indoor when they visit relatives (rule introduced a couple of weeks back).
Have been warning my relatives in Italy since before the 1st lockdown went from Lombardy to country wide.
The mask is a religion in its own right over there.
Italians are beginning to wake. Scroll to watch a few clips of rebellion. Avvocato Marco Mori https://twitter.com/MoriMrc.
My money is on a revised daily allowance for Vitamin D and pushed in the same way that Vitamin C was for the common cold
Twitter link not working for me. I just get the message “Sorry something went wrong” and a try again icon which I have tried multiple times. Have they shadow banned it?
Try a full page refresh. I get the same error and that works for me
I don’t like the words ‘must adapt’ … permanent masks, unsocial distancing, vaccines … I would gave preferred, we just get on with life.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157713862608202&id=502738201&sfnsn=scwspmo
and
http://Www.Danjgregory.com/pandemic
There is a petition on going regarding a public vote of no confidence in the government. Almost signed it, as it was on Simon Dolan’s Twitter page; however I suggest you read the content of the petition, which opens stating we have the largest deaths in Europe and seems to oppose the easing of lockdowns. The only thing I agreed with was their reference to care home deaths. I imagine many people have signed it not checking the content – as it is at 65000 signatures, this will potentially give the government more ammunition for further restrictions.
Good morning fellow sceptics.
Its only today I’ve read this update – again loads of great articles and this is proof even more that the tide is turning.
A friend also directed me to Sir Desmond Swaye’s speech and he’s very spot on. But it also shows how the political class regardless of party are all guilty of getting us into this mess.
Yesterday Mr Bart and I went to Windsor, out first day out of London since this insanity started. Trains not so much busy, I wasn’t the only one muzzled as there were other passengers and even staff who weren’t (staff wearing lanyards issued by the company which said “Face Coverings Exempt” all throughout which is a good idea).
Arriving at Windsor, we went to our regular pub – great service, wasn’t harassed for not wearing a muzzle and surprise, surprise – they had actual menus!!!
Windsor is always busy due to the Castle and easy proximity to London but yesterday, it was dead – no queues going to the Castle, shops mostly empty and some have even shut down for good. You know its really bad when even the high street of an affluent town is becoming a ghost town.
Anyway, we went to Great Park – lovely autumn colours, did a bracing 5-6 mile walk and more or less normal spoiled by the sight of two Asian women wearing muzzles in the open air.
Jesus wept.
I hope the deer weren’t muzzled (or the ‘moose’ as my Estonian friend used to call them). In used to live near the Great Park. Wonderful place, though I never managed to encounter the location of Herne’s Oak.
No thankfully and neither were the horses and dogs.
This is where it hits people. The normal everyday pleasure is what is being stripped away from life .What will move the majority in the end is that amongst all the death and tragedy the longing to return to the normal everyday pleasures we once knew will be so emotionally powerful that it will become unstoppable .You see it in the faces everywhere ,the missed shopping trip ,the missed time in the pub with your mates ,the overwhelming longing for everything to be the same again . These gigantic yearnings are our strongest weapons to overcome this governments madness. Because even in the heart of the most ardent lockdower those suppressed longings are there under the surface and eating away as we speak. So keep fighting my friends because we are turning the tide and the little things we once took for granted will never be taken for granted again .
They all think that if everyone was muzzled and we all locked ourselves away for 2 weeks, that everything will go back to normal.
E.g. “Try the same thing over and over again and expect different results”
When it doesn’t work the second or third time, they’ll want to see anyone who isn’t masked dragged out into the street and shot. They’ll get more and more extreme.
If some sort of miracle occurs and this makes the number of cases go down to zero (which it can’t because the test is inaccurate – unless everyone stops taking the test), then they’ll claim victory (e.g. the government was right all along)
They’ll then move on to more bizarre things like “if we can defeat coronavirus, why don’t we try and wipe out ‘normal’ colds and flu? This will save even more lives”
But it is never meant to be wiped out (and can’t be because the tests are inaccurate, so even if it really does disappear from reality, you will still get positive test results) so everything I just said is a load of bollocks.
A vaccine is the only thing they will accept, and everyone has GOT to have it.
The psychological attack has worked a treat on these people…
1600
Maureen from Barnsley:Our heroine.
Into the annals of history, alongside Robin of Locksley, John of Wick, and Lawrence of Arabia
Yup. I hope I’m as feisty as she is when I’m 83!
Voice of common sense who can think (like us) for herself.
She is cutting through to a demographic, and that is very helpful, with hopefully the Great Barrington gaining traction with another demographic. This might be quite an important weekend in terms of the public mood – clocks going back, start of half term for many?
She reminds me of our next door neighbour, now 95 and sadly terminally ill with lung cancer (smoked all her life until a couple of years ago). She is about 5 ft tall, from the North West and takes no prisoners. She had a spat with the senior medic neighbour on the other side who she ‘ordered’ to sort out her hedge. Her stock response to misbehaving kids – ‘a good slap’!
Bet she doesn’t watch BBC!!
Saw a woman dogwalker picking up after her dog, plastic bag in hand, visor and mask on.
On the dog?
Oh, I love ‘I saw a woman’ stories. Here’s mine:
I saw a woman in a department store yesterday, mask hanging from one ear, whilst she used a lip gloss TESTER to smear goop all over her mouth.
Actually, I did see a woman walking her dog yesterday wearing a hideous black mask.
My comment, shouldn’t the dog be wearing a muzzle.
To be fair, it is one of the least pleasant aspects of owning a dog
My dog is a Jack Russell, it’s a bugger trying to get a mask on her for her morning walkies out in the countryside. I might have to settle for a visor thingy!
Are you sure you are putting it on the right end? Well, no matter, at least it won’t get washed into the sewage to be tested down the track!!!!! Win, win all round.
You should try getting one on to a hamster…
Adulterer liar Boris’ shitty plan.
Roll out a vaccine. Any vaccine. Doesn’t matter if it doesn’t work. Then roll back testing. Voila. Casedemic over. That’s how dishonest the oaf is. With digital ID and half-baked green twattery to follow..
All about the ID, by The man in the shadows, Blair,
Nope, the sh*t is about to hit the fan, more later. gtg
Are you offering hope? If so please do tell.
Radio 2 & 4 news telling of testing sewage which can identify areas of infection where the population is asymptomatic.
Supposed to be new but they have been doing it for months.
Why announce it now ?
Because with few deaths, hospital admissions and even cases going down they can misuse the sewage data to lockdown places where there aren’t even any cases.
Plymouth was specifically mentioned
Sky News had a piece on it. The last sentence:
“Traces of coronavirus in sewage water are not infectious, according to the World Health Organisation”.
We have a big motor race in Bathurst each year. It was last weekend. Numbers very reduced, but still 1,000 attendees I think. Lo and behold the powers that be have found traces of covid in sewage. Bit of a call out on the news blah, blah, blah. Get tested etc. It does make sense to me that it is not infectious. I don’t know why the authorities are so worried by what is or isn’t in our excrement.
I’ve been idly wondering for a while whether that to save face people will simply be given a saline solution placebo “vaccine”.
The nightmare Groundhog day continues. Moron politicians with posh voices but low IQ’s make the same points defending the policies week in, month outm month after month on talkradio and elsewhere… please make it stop. Please.
Just had Mel Stride on. JHB virtually apoplectic. It cut no ice. “We need to control the virus …”
JHB very nicely explained why Don’t Panic!. But Mel is too much of a Covidian to realise.
They will only change their tune once they’re affected. Sadly its “I’m alright Jack” with this lot.
Not to mention family members who voice DANIEL ANDREWS HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB, (insert relevant politician’s, health official’s, whatever name) etc. Me, but more than 700 people have died, he is a raving lunatic, her, well it’s not his fault!!!
It’s the v-i-r-u-s!!!!!!
Yes. Selfish.
Yup: modern-day Myth of Sisyphus!
I don’t think they do have low IQs, just low morals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG1PKHR_5DY Desmond Swayne in parliament yesterday.
Only good egg in parliament; we need more like him. Brilliant
Herd stupidity! YES.
Word for word what I say / think – does that mean I am involved in Group Think too
Fantastic man for speaking out.
Brilliant interview with Maureen Eames and her husband on GMB. Both expressed eloquently the anti lockdown case, better than anything seen to date on MSM. Clever but down-to-earth people. Spoilt by the alternative case being put by the disgustingly patronising Dr Sarah Jarvis, The presenters seemed embarrassed by the views of Mr and Mrs Eames. Definitely worth watching on You Tube once it’s up.
Mr Bart predicts that loads of doctors and nurses will be struck off for medical malpractice once this shit show is over. Sarah Jarvis should be one of them.
No. Lessons will be learnt, though
Well, I counter that loads of doctors and nurses SHOULD be ……
Think they are covered by the Coronavirus Act
There is no recourse without power.
So much for the rule of law.
Yes
Here it is
https://youtu.be/aEC1YOJSyng
I suspect the bould Arlene has become more sceptical since the south of the island locked down…..
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/chris-whitty-describes-how-mild-the-covid-19-virus-really-is_zZrVOIRmp1I26rZ.html
Chris Whitty on how MILD the virus is.
……..So let’s ruin everyone’s life.
WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS ?
They are in thrall to numerous vested interests.
Big business
The greens
Alcohol Concern
Power crazed local government Officers
Self important advisers and experts
Stare and private sector working from home
And many many more
Fact Checkers behind the scenes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmKPbYbAnKE&feature=emb_logo
Briliant! Thanks.
Repeat of my response to Steph below.
For some months the DofE has been testing sewage for signs of covid contamination. This has been done at regional public health labs at the expense of normal water testing.
Today it was revealed on Radio 2 & 4 that sewage tests are going to be used to identify areas where covid is present but the population is asymptomatic.
With falling cases, hospital admissions and mortality they will misuse the sewage data to lockdown places with no covid and who will be able to refute it.
(Fuck me I’ve just listened to 30 minutes of various knobs telling how terrible the virus is and how many more are falling ill and dying, liars.)
So it really is a load of shit
Plymouth was singled out as a city with few cases but with ‘symptomatic’ sewage.
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/plymouth-sunniest-city-in-britain-2034093
I think this article might explain the lack of cases if we are to pay attention to Vitamin D.
It is interesting how different people can read thing so differently, they find SARS-Cov2 in the sewage and think they must take action and still believe they can stop the tide and control the virus. In contrast I hear they are finding virus in the sewage and think ‘its too late for that now’ this virus is everywhere, like the common cold, control attempts are futile
Also, if Plymouth has the virus but no symptoms then to my mind that means the good Citizens of Plymouth are immune to this virus, it must be down to West Country, Cream, Sun & Cider. If they are immune then no need for any action.
This virus is just laughing at us, we just need to take mitigating measures, take vitamins, develop treatments and help the vulnerable to take extra precautions.
Amazingly few cases down here in the SW – in the spring or now. Why??
Sunlight maybe, also good air quality. Or maybe because many of us had symptoms suspiciously like covid back in December/January, and thus it had already mainly gone through here by the spring.
I am sure I picked up covid at the beginning of December in Exeter.
The whole TJN had a suspiciously like covid bug in late December. Given our movements, the most likely place we got it was Exeter services a few days before Christmas. The again, loads of people around us got the same bug at the same time or just after. If we’d had it in March/April, given the symptoms without a test it would certainly have been assumed to be covid.
I’m amazed no one has wanted to look seriously into this -people have been saying about it online since the spring.
Of course, it may not have been ‘the’ rona, just ‘a’ rona. But that doesn’t matter if, in this case, ‘a’ confers immunity to ‘the.’ Almost like a vaccine.
But surely not, as Nadine has told us herd immunity does not exist.
I doubt the virus is laughing.
However, I’ve absolutely no doubt that dePiffle, Poppycock and their “chums” are finding it all hilarious.
Talking to a friend today who had visited a relative in a nursing home. She was told to take her mask off when she went into the home. Why was that, I asked. Because, they spread germs, was the reply. Oh happy day!!! Have emailed her the link to the article on here the other day. Is common sense starting to prevail?
Wow – where are you down under?
Northern beaches, Sydney CGL, I nearly fell off my chair when she told me. Rumour also a MP may have attended a funeral without a mask!
I would love to know what evidence the home had for that. This needs to be spread, unlike the virus.
Don’t know, t.a.t. Didn’t want to press, relative is dying (not from covid). Maybe it is as simple as the director of the nursing home is better read than the health minister.
Doesn’t need evidence. Just common sense!
Has anyone seen Volvo’s new seatbelt advert? So obviously about lockdowns…
That would be the same Volvo who used Nazi research on the effects of rapid deceleration on the human body (concentration camp inmates) to develop seat belts in the first place???
Event 201 had a representative from Hilton Hotels on the board.
Oh yes, a MEGA SCAM.
covid = Certificate Of Vaccine ID?
Great from the young who have worked out that this is a load of bollocks
However look at the comments, almost exclusively from members of the cult
“Should be tracked down and sent to prison’ etc
Yep for singing in the street
Won’t be long before they will be asking the police and army to open fire on them
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/crowd-gathers-sing-together-outside-19151408?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar
Are they trolls are are there really so many utterly horrible people about?
How come I’ve managed to avoid them thoughout my almost 70 decades?
listening to talk radio this morning with a doctor/boffin talking about vaccines and the need for younger people to take them. Quite disturbing the methodology being used…young people who he admits are at low risk from the virus should get the vaccine to protect old people who based on his own words would have already had the vaccine anyway.
Can anyone work out that logic for me? He didn’t say the young should have the vaccine to protect those that can’t…it was definitely to protect the elderly who had already had the vaccine.
So that sound remarkably like the concept of ‘herd’ immunity which seems to have been thrown out as a method for natural immunity but will be effective for a vaccine. Its absolutely bonkers…
And if old people have had the vaccine why would they need protecting?
Anyway, I think you can see another way that masks are being used to drive this narrative…’I’m not wearing it to protect myself, I’m wearing it to protect you’…Morons!
Most, if not all, young people have already had it. My elder son had it in March – caught in his university halls – and younger son almost certainly had it after his school ski trip in December last year. All freshers and kids in school by now will have it.
I am pretty sure my 84 year old Aunty and all her Scottish mates got “IT” in December when they met up at Xmas. She had a hacking cough for two or three weeks. She also had a rash on her face that the doctors thought was shingles for a few weeks after she got better too.
Anyway Aunty is OK and so are all her 80+yr old mates.
I think you are right 2-6. Got a UK friend who thought she had it at end of Novemer after interracting with some ‘flown in’ Chinese offsiders. Very very sick for quite a while.
Just propaganda to get more people to take the vaccine – any vaccine. Play on their emotions such as if you don’t wear a mask that you are a granny killer.
Pity he is clueless about IMMUNITY; that is the thing that mad us survive over thousands of years
The thing that really keeps on getting me mad is that no one, not even the more sceptical in the mainstream media seems to pick up on the double standards. Desmond swayne yesterday is the first person in the public eye that I have heard express any comparison between vaccine immunity and natural immunity. It need hammer home to the sheep that you can’t have one and not the other!
So, the plan is to encourage/coerce/force young people to take a vaccine, which could well be riskier to them than the virus it vaccinates against, in order to protect *other people*? Has anyone even thought for a microsecond about the ethics of this?
And are they even testing to see if the vaccine reduces transmission anyway? Last I heard the only metric that was being evaluated was whether or not it alleviated symptoms.
Mild symptoms at that!
I heard that too. He was talking bollocks IMO. Just another paid off “expert”. If a vaccine doesn’t protect you against an illness what is it for? If you believe that vaccines work, didn’t he just trash that premise of all vaccination? Or why is anyone bothering to get their jabs for “at risk” countries e.g. typhoid?
And didn’t the interviewer ask the obvious questions?
!!!
One thing which strikes me in the MSM is how poor the scientific editors are. There is constant referral to malaria being caused by a virus. To me it seems less of an oversight but rather strategic to scare the unscientific populace about viruses, particularly sars-cov2
But it shows where Wankock gets “The Science” from.
Democracy suspended in UK in preparation for mass vaccination
….
https://www.anhinternational.org/news/democracy-suspended-in-uk-in-preparation-for-mass-vaccination
4.Anybody can become a vaccinator as long as they’re supervised by an “experienced vaccinator”
Wow, just had a disturbing image of that little girl in The Killing Fields.
Vitamin D – what governments are and aren’t telling us
See video or read video transcript
doses recommended by Governments are not enough
https://www.anhinternational.org/news/vitamin-d-what-governments-are-and-arent-telling-us
“ informed of how to use the vitamin optimally.”
Miracles usually aren’t (relatively few of those expensive ‘supplements’ on chemists’ shelves have credibility)- but it does seem that Vitamin D is indeed a useful supplement (along with Zinc).
Bur one caution – it can be related to kidney stones if the individual has a propensity for them.
Hence the K2.
Always take high dose vitamin D3 with Magnesium and vitamin K2 as it helps to get the calcium from the blood into the bones and teeth (not in the cells).
https://vitamindwiki.com/Overview+Kidney+Stones+and+vitamin+D
And take your K2 at a different time from the D3.
Video banned by YouTube but now on BrandNewTube and others
The Great Reset of Great Divide? (Intro then Rob start talking at 2.46m)
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/the-great-reset-or-great-divide_eShB3dwecfWtEkK.html
Yesterday MPs passed a law by 333 to 1 to let police use reasonable force to detain and lock up people for not isolating.
https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1319539229249146880
How are they allowed to march on with this? I can hear the jackboots. It is terrifying.
Already in place from the 1984 Health Act and the Coronavirus Act.
Absolutely disgusting that all the ayes were Tory b’stards and all the Labour b’stards abstained.
So much for being our representatives!
We should have been watching Australia more closely…What Chairman Dan has been doing over there is what we will get once nature starts its annual winter cull of the elderly and infirm.
I hope everyone is watching for the switch back from ‘cases’ to ‘deaths’ in the media….I’m guessing end of November-Early December.
They WILL do this. Back to the daily covid body count soon.
There is a big footy final this weekend. Whilst he has relaxed the rules for households there will be no mixing. Drones and police helicopters out to catch miscreants. I kid you not.
I am sorry to say the Isle of Man has been doing this for months, with nary a peep from anyone here.
Sir Charles Walker MP was the 1
Oh no.
The dictatorship tells the population that a large group in the population are trying to kill them
These people are not to be trusted, they are selfish and will kill their children and grannies if they get the chance
Herein lies the route to genocide
This is like pre genocide Rwanda
This dictator is sowing the seeds of genocide and he knows exactly what he is doing
It’s always just two or three steps away…
David Kurten –
Say no to testing.
Refuse track and trace.
Meet your friends.
Go where you want.
Use cash.
Support small businesses.
Be flu & Covid vax-free.
Boost your immune system with vitamins.
Show your face.
Smile!
#FightBackBetter
https://twitter.com/davidkurten/status/1319289596950114311?s=20
I have a lot of respect for David Kurtan
And I would add, deny the system wealth, legitimacy, and access.
Action to end the interminable unlawful lockdown
BTW Basics Did you know that David K has joined the Extra Parliamentary International Corona Inquiry ACU 2020.org…Good man!
Astonishing that there is such belief in and energetic discussion of the casedemic when “Covid-19” was hospital population left to die all at the same time, dressed up to look like one disease. If they can do that and get away with it, they can invent case numbers.
Covid-19 in a nutshell
All those folks on here always writing to their MPs – how’s that going for you?
Action to end the interminable unlawful lockdown
We are trying – and i copy all mine to Sir Des now
I’ve just been using WriteToThem to send my MP (the thickest woman in parliament) historical facts about what happened at the Nuremberg trials.
I don’t expect a reply because I’m not sure she can read.
If you “write” to Nadine again, use pictures.
I send mine graphs – with accompanying awkward questions.
It’s going great, thanks. She knows she is being scrutinised.
Mine too. He turned up trumps yesterday when he was one of the five decent Tories who voted for school dinners.
…. in the North East and Yorkshire almost one in 10, 1,531, patients were in hospital with the virus.
Are they trying to say that there are only 15,310 hospital beds in the whole of Yorkshire and the North East?
Or does it mean those are the only available beds in that enormous region?
Or am I missing something?
Whichever, the DT Live has backslid disgracefully with this scaremongering article that’s worthy of the Grad and the Beeb!
Proves the Truth was getting through the cracks this week. This is war and we need to push back with the Truth.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-covid-uk-lockdown-tier-3-cases-deaths-vaccine/
The “absolutely terrifying” impact of coronavirus admissions on Northern hospitals has been revealed, after leaked NHS data reportedly shows more than 6,000 patients are being treated across England.
As of Thursday, almost 6,100 patients were in hospital with Covid-19 across the country, 4,670 were receiving oxygen and 563 were on ventilators, according to the data.
But the impact on hospitals in the North was even more stark, with more than a quarter of Liverpool University Hospital Trust beds occupied by Covid-19 patients.
In Lancashire and South Cumbria, one in seven hospital beds were occupied by people suffering from coronavirus, and in the North East and Yorkshire almost one in 10, 1,531, patients were in hospital with the virus.
The NHS data was obtained through an investigation by the Health Service Journal and The Independent.
Across Manchester hospitals, the data showed 11 per cent of the region’s beds are occupied with Covid-19 patients.
One of the region’s intensive care doctors told The Independent the figures were “absolutely terrifying”.
An NHS England spokesperson said: “Coronavirus cases and hospital admissions are rising and so it is vital everyone does what they can to control the virus, particularly by following government guidelines.
“Social distancing is the first line of defence, followed by the test and trace programme, but if infection still then spreads, the NHS has no choice but to activate local and regional escalation plans.”
They also appear to have missed out the crucial data on whether these are normal figures for respiratory admissions for this time of year. Funny that.
Anything to stoke up the fear. Was speaking to a friend on the phone yesterday, he is one of the ones in compulsory self isolation earlier in the year due to health issues. When I pointed out that flu and pneumonia deaths have been strangely very low this year he said: ‘Of course many of us have been very careful this year which may explain why there has not been much flu’. Seriously couldn’t see that all those flu sufferers have been painted with the Covid brush.
Also, why do people think “being careful” has eliminated flu, but covid is still (supposedly) spreading like wildfire?
So sad.
They’re still not telling us if these test positive patients are actually symptomatic and being treated for covid, or are in hospital for something else entirely.
“4,670 were receiving oxygen”
Patients receive oxygen as a matter of course in a number of situations – not least following an operation.
Doh!
I love my local service station.
Seeing me enter unmasked to pay for petrol, the guy who runs it apologised when I couldn’t hear what he was saying, ripped his own mask off, and we proceeded to chat about how useless masks were and how we were living in a clown world – in front of the other customers…
I’ve taken to walking around Tesco with my daughter in one of those front-facing baby carrier things with no mask (her head is not far from mine – and as I’m caring for someone who is mask exempt, I can legally do this).
Because talking to your baby is good for their development, I keep telling her things like “It’s OK darling, all of these masked zombies will come to their senses and realise they’ve been conned sooner or later – yes they will! They will won’t they darling?!” – that sort of thing.
People are much less confrontational if you have a cute baby strapped to you. You can get away with way more subversive insults
I also make sure to take her to the checkout of the only brave checkout girl in the shop who is maskless. “Look darling, that girl has a beautiful smile” – you get the idea.
I despaired yesterday, whilst catching up with Talk Radio interviews, at the utter ill-informed garbage being spouted by MPs on both sides of the HoC. The only thing that was impressive was their ignorance, given that their role is to be informed participants in the complexities thrown up by the legislative process.
When someone talks about the ‘success’ of lock-ups, you know there are in the same class of intelligence as a dog turd on the pavement, given all that has been learned since April I’d rather not encounter either – but at least the dog turd serves a natural function, even if in the wrong place.
But what struck me is that the argument (if you can call it that) focuses on whether lock-ups ‘work’ in that narrow sense.
What seems still to receive too little attention in discussion, it seems to me, is that key factor of the associated costs – the health and social penalties that we are all facing. These disastrous consequences need to be brought to the fore much more often in stating the ‘anti-‘ case, pinning responsibility for all the death and destruction that is being wrought by the manic focus on the virus. Just that one figure of 350,000 unexamined potential cancer diagnoses is actually staggering – and that’s just the start.
Those who have promoted the Scary Fairy story and the resulting destruction need to be faced with the result much more often and more clearly and snappily.
I agree. We’ve done the data to disprove the narrative and it makes no difference so I think the only way to change minds is to constantly reiterate the human costs of lockdown. We have to fight the emotion of fear with other emotions, data isn’t working.
That’s right, Achilles. There’s a need to fight fire with fire. The Goebbels Brigade of SPI-B have deliberately ramped up fear of a moderate viral episode as an explicit psy-ops tool. The counter is to turn that around by ramping up the realistic balancing fear about the effects of these measures, from your greater chances of dying of cancer, developing mental health problems, dying from an undiagnosed heart attack etc. – as well as the linked social and economic consequences of having no job to support yourself – and the child abuse perpetrated by mask wearing.
It needs thinking through in a coherent, focused way, soi that the Fear factor turns arouind and bites the originator.
But don’t say it … we have the massive disadvantage of not having the subservient media at out beck and call.
As an adjunct to this, I think that it’s important to lay off various ‘theories’ and other partisan views that will just dilute the message with a stable full of hobby-horses. Forget the Great Reset, Climate Change, Wokeness etc. – leave all that for another day and another setting. Just concentrate on the data and the real death and destruction.
Focus
Speaker intervenes in Simon Dolan’s legal fight against lockdown (22/10/20)
https://bdaily.co.uk/articles/2020/10/22/speaker-intervenes-in-simon-dolans-legal-fight-against-lockdown
Hoyle has stated that, if that happened, it would “amount to an attack on the ability of each House of Parliament to determine when and how to exercise its functions in scrutinising legislation, subject to the time limits imposed by statutory provisions.”
The hypocrisy in that statement is astounding!
The cult is owned. Billionaires have very deep pockets.
Basically – an attack on the rule of law, which should act as a counterweight to parliament acting unreasonably and/or ultra vires.
Of course, executives hate checks and balances – but we now have the legislative assembly conspiring with the executive in this tawdry game.
The consequences are dire, since the media (the third ‘pillar’) no longer functions critically, but has been captured by the establishment. If the judiciary concedes the game – then we explicitly have constitutional totalitarianism without any pretense at balance. This is even more frightening when even the opposition within the HoC has already been captured by the same establishment interests.
John Bercow has been criticized here – but, whatever else, he wasn’t a shill of the executive.
Dark days.
What f’ing scrutiny- isn’t that the point?
He’s concerned about something enshrined in Article 9 of the Bill of Rights 1689, while ignoring the Magna Carta…..nice one Lyndsay, prick.
Very relevant then
I had high hopes of Mr Hoyle but he is now acting against someone trying to help Parliament reassert its authority.
Probably been got at or bought.
The Offy on the High Street in Whitstable is a fabulously mask free zone. It actually has a statement about exemptions on the counter. I congratulated the unmasked owner on his policy. Elsewhere, Whitstable is every bit as dreadful as I expected it to be but then it always is.
Said a woman who just locked down Northern Ireland
Here a little game for you – peruse the 200+ comments on this article from Wales Online, and see if you can spot a single comment that’s not derogatory of Drakeford and his commie mutant traitor cabal.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/supermarkets-wales-only-able-sell-19150886#comments-section
Prize for most comments in favour of Commissar Cherepakha = supermarket sweep in Lidl, Rhyl – essential items only.
I’ve so far only counted two.
Wow. Breathtakingly bonkers reasoning. They really are on a different planet!
I’ve also had the pleasure of discovering among the comments a great new nickname for Drakeford: Uncle Dickfraud
Some favourites please, I can’t access comments at local newspaper sites from Android.
I’ll give you a random sample of three (I’m supposed to be working…)
The assembly needs to be disbanded. Project fear is destroying our country and these people are letting it happen. Healthy people under house arrest is abhorrent given the number that died fighting for out freedom in the last two world wars.
Drakeford would rather invest in a chocolate tea pot company than essential infrastructure. In his own mind he must genuinely believe he is good for wales and everyone in his bubble feel the same the welsh government is very insular it’s just the culture and unlikely to change I’m not sure if another welsh speaker from west wales representing Conservative party will Change the culture of the welsh government
this is illegal! this is going far and beyond just lockdown to control a virus, this is taking away civil liberties, i didn’t realise when I woke up this morning I had been moved to North Korea!! It is bad enough that Dopey Drakeford and his left wing terrorists are taking away our human rights by shutting us down considering our R number is well below that of England and Scotland. This is the real problem with politics today, not one politician cares about the public, they care about themselves. Its about Power! Power=money! Drakeford is looking for votes for next years election to keep him in power, in reality he is just a puppet and UK government look down their noses at us because of the imbeciles in charge. Boris, Sturgeon, they both the same out for votes to keep them in power. Now is the time to fight back! viva la revolution!!
Many, many more of the same.
Viva la revolution indeed…
Thank you Mr Dee
Hahaha! Didn’t spot that North Korea one. Brill!
These same types of comments are appearing in articles around the world. The tide turned months back and is now rushing in. The biggest concern now is how many of the lunatics in charge, will cause even more damage trying to save their own skin as they go down?
Creating lockdown by misusing data from testing sewage to prolong the life of their foul little scam
But the Facebook page of Walesonline says the opposite – widespread disapproval. It’s like US media ignoring Hunter Biden’s laptop from hell and Creepy Joe’s billion dollars from China.
Must be censorbots.
Anyway, 6pm tonight I’m going to buy myself a t-shirt from Sainsburies in Wrexham.
Drakeford is a communist. He’s waited his whole 66 years for his wet dream to come true.
There’s a song for this situation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBwf2r1SQkU
I cancelled my Telegraph sub a couple of weeks ago.
A moderator actually admitted to me that rather than deleting my post for a naughty (but coded) word I’d used they had set the likes to zero. I thought it was strange because I was making a good point and I usually get good votes.
I put it to him/her that if word got around that they have the ability to adjust votes to their liking they’d lose a lot of subscribers overnight.
That awful rag the ‘Guardian’ have been doing that for years.
I’ve seen that happen often. Glad you pointed out the backlash effect!
The moderators don’t just fiddle with the ratings they also fiddle with the names of posters.
One article with comments was from a link that I had followed from here and the moderation was utterly bizarre: The initiator of a fairly large thread has posted as, say, “John Smith”. Replies were @John. Nothing strange there, but when I went back 24 hours later to see what other comments had been posted, I noticed that “John Smith” had become “Paul Jones” but replies still said @John. But along with that moderators had deleted mid-thread replies rather then deleting the whole sub-thread so much so that the entire section o longer made any sense.
77th swapping shifts?
Just received a letter from ONS “Play your part in shaping the future of the UK” / “On Her Majesty’s Service” – seems to be addressed to “The Resident”
I will cross out the address and add “Does not live at this address, return to sender” then post it back to them I suppose
This houshold received those invites one or two months ago – which were ignored. If UK Government is conducting continuous analysis of the public mood, best that it’s left guessing.
Ok, well just in case they’re reading, this is the current mood I’m in expressed in a you tube video…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSJcXPCxlzI
Ha, I got one from Sky addressed to “The TV Lover”, did the same
I dared to look at the C dashboard yday.
ONS testing has jumped from 1000 tests to 14.000.
Either they were super successful recruiting, or they have accumulated tests from several months.
“Unsolicited junk mail”
Alarming rise in stillbirths during coronavirus pandemic emerges as new figures suggest the number has QUADRUPLED at just one London hospital (16/7/20)
https://twitter.com/LeahButlerSmith/status/1319395365670576128
Their granny’s are OK though are they?
Not now they’re not grannies they’re not . God – the sick bastards.
Thanks for the link Victoria. This has really pissed me off even more than I was already. It appears that neo natal death also went up during the period. It’s something this country has a terrible record in.
Radio 4 turned itself into a seedy Soho porn shop specializing in coronophilia.
Main news and Today lying about how many more people are getting horribly ill and dying.
Desert Island Disks had to bring up and Womans Hour is all about Long Covid For Women.
Thank goodness Pop Quiz is on in a minute.
popmaster is the only thing i listen to on BBC now ..
I was gonna post something about WOman’s hour today and their Long Covid journey of discovery. Utter Utter Bollocks.
Try Radio Three – a covid-free zone and fabulous music to nourish the soul. Go on, you might like it!
Not quite covid-free, but by far the best of the BBC bunch.
You’re right on both counts. News bulletins still intrude, and requests sometimes mention the need for quality sonic distraction.
absolute radio
Dear Drakeford.
Is lettuce essential?
Thank you.
For rabbits yes
I’m hoping he’ll go into hibernation soon.
His cognitive facilities already have.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/22/coronavirus-second-wave-europe-is-affected-differently-heres-why.html
JP Morgan thinks it knows why Germany and Italy seem to be fairing better than other countries. Of course, it’s all down to mask wearing and track and trace! They could not be more wrong. Idiots!
Does anyone know what happened to the Danish muzzle research? I really hope that get released and set these lunatics straight.
Italy fairing better? In what way?
I have yet to see anyone explain to me in Ladybird book terms how Track & Trace can “work”
It cannot work once a virus is endemic in the population.It only has a brief time that it could feasibly work at the start of a epidemic.Other than that a colossal waste of time and money
It’s very useful, as it stokes up panic and hysteria, especially among those poor demented souls who thought it was a good idea to download the control app.
Regarding the Danish mask study: There’s a controversy brewing over academic journals including the Lancet having refused to publish the results … whatever they are. The authors have started to speak up. I’ll try to find a link.
EDIT: here you go
https://twitter.com/henrik_ullum/status/1319157496720785410
Off-topic but why would Kamala Harris say this:
http://82.221.129.208/220milliondied.mp4
220 million Americans dead in the past 7 months? What planet she on?
Or has she been reading the Deagel Report again as this, by another of those massing coincidences, is what they claim is going to happen before 2025.
I have no idea who she is, but clearly not inhabiting the same reality as the rest of us.
She will, most likely, be the US President within the next few years.
That sort of “mistake” is criminal.
I have absolutely no idea, but just that short clip isn’t saying very much. The population of the United States is about 330 million, so that figure is 2/3.
She might be “covering” for Biden who is often alleged to be suffering from dementia and often comes out with absurd figures.
But that is the United States anyway. I live in the United Kingdom. Different country.
What is the Deagel report? More conspiracy bullshit?
I would recommend listening to Dr Mike Yeadon who has recently been interviewed at length by James Delingpole. I put a link to it here last night. It would be a far better use of your time.
You say “What is the Deagel report? More conspiracy bullshit?”
Possibly, maybe, quite possibly.
But it’s been around for years starting as something to do with arms and military stuff then they started doing population estimates about 10 or so years ago for 2025 if I remember rightly.
This lot say it’s for real:
https://prepareforchange.net/2020/03/31/the-new-world-order-plans-for-depopulation-murder-rates-in-the-forthcoming-planned-global-genocide-2018-2025/
Others disagree and say it’s bullshit so make your own mind up.
My question was why did she say this not about conspiracy theories or otherwise?
Does she really believe 220 million dead in the USA in the past 7 months?
If so she’s madder than Biden and Trump put together.
If you aren’t becoming a conspiracy theorist by now, then you just haven’t been paying attention and Dr Mike Yeadon, clever as he is, is not going to cut it. Nice try though.
Even if she added a zero by mistake, or a 2, they are still numbers that only a person who has no grasp of numbers at all can mention.
Isn’t it more like 220,000?
You prefer Trump or Biden?
I have a feeling Joe expressed that number as well. Not quite yet biting the hand that feeds her (political ambition).
Devi Sridhar has deleted all her twitter posts prior to August.
1. It shows us what fibre she is made from.
2. Don’t be afraid to capture comments that strike you as criminal or professionally unbalanced. In time those comments may be needed.
Any idea why? Is she changing her tune?
I suspect she is afraid they may be used as evidence against her.
That would seem a likely attempt to cover something up. Shame that nothing is ever really gone……
Non that I know of. It has been pleasing to see her connections and contrary arguments to hers being directly put to her. She is fragile for one who has a say in the control of nations. Blocks and does not answer any questions.
I would expect the other reasonable suggestions by LS commentors are near the mark. Something to hide or too much vulnerability exposed.
Yes. People on the hedgehog-helper forum have a sad tendency to get excited about hoggy masks!
Brilliant!
“Low quality politicians love to ramp up the hysteria of a crisis. The drama gives their lives meaning: they are here to save us all, and lead the people to safety. They exploit fear to boost their squalid egos.” – Luke Johnson
Regarding Layla Moran, MP for Oxford and lockdown enthusiast, Luke has this to say:
“It is astonishing that a city with so many brilliant residents has elected such a low calibre MP. The quality of public servants in Britain has surely never been lower.”
I’ve always loathed Luke Johnson since he appeared on ‘Back to the Floor’, a fly on the wall where he was supposed to be improving his business from the shop floor but demonstrated nothing but contempt for the staff. I’m slowly warming to him now. Times are way more than Strange.
Clicked and collected after buying my lunch inside (no problems apart from zombies).
Nice young girl brought my shopping out. Relieved that she could take her mask off, she hates them and the staff have to wear them in the staff room!
Told her her health more important and it’s a scam, she agreed although maybe out politeness, did say zero staff been off with ‘it’.
Not aware of risk assessment, told her employer has responsibility to ensure her safety. Urged her to speak to manager, she will.
Told her to keep safe and healthy, nice to see a smiley face.
Fucking zombies everywhere.
Why Were Democratic Citizens So Willing to Surrender Their Liberty? It seems to me that its very much like classic Pavlovian conditioning of the masses. As practised by many communist dictatorships. Create confusion in the populace until they will accept any solution offered. Check out Yuri Bezmenov on subverting a nation.
A lot of people can be conditioned to push someone they’ve never met off of a tall building.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doFpACkiZ2Q
New page up.
Political Science Examination Autumn 2020.
Q1] Herd Immunity is not possible therefore we must vaccinate everyone.
Discuss.
10 Marks(but only if you come up with the same answer as us).
Arrived back finally to the Channel Island of Guernsey, all normal here with no nonsense like UK. Seems it’s going to go south over there again any time soon. Beyond ridiculous now with more testing not surprisingly resulting in more ‘cases’. I thought the media switch from daily death totals to daily cases was sketchy off the bat. Something sinister going on and it isn’t C-19 that’s for sure.