“Oh, the stool, the stool. My dear Pepys, the persistent excellence of the stool has been one of this disease’s most tedious features. When will you get it into your head, one can produce a copious, regular and exquisitely-turned evacuation every day and still be a stranger to reason?” says Dr. Warren to Samuel Pepys in an iconic scene from the Madness of King George.
One is reminded of this dialogue whenever India comes down on the side of authoritarianism to serve its own geopolitical ends with utter disregard for democracy – all the while calling itself the world’s most populous democracy, a democratic beacon and its elections a ‘carnival of democracy’. Many in the West also buy into this idea as they look for a more amenable country to counter the heft of economically and politically powerful, but dictatorial, China. One is tempted to respond, “Oh, the democracy, the democracy. When will you get it into your head, one can follow democracy within one’s borders, however tenuous that democracy may be becoming, and still scorn it abroad when it serves one’s purpose?”
India’s reaction to the recent Bangladesh crisis illustrates not only its plain indifference to what it claims to champion at home, but also the shameful parochialism of its vision and downright hypocrisy. Bangladeshi Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina, who decided to flee the country in the face of formidable protests on August 5th, won a third consecutive term in power this January. She had been ruling since 2009, improving the country’s economy, but later on suppressing dissent and hounding the opposition. The opposition boycotted the January elections, questioning their fairness, and Hasina retained her premiership undisturbed. Protests against a specific job quota bill in July snowballed into more widespread agitations against her rule. She put in a shoot-to-kill order and deployed the army to the streets. Around 500 civilians were shot dead
Throughout the escalation, India did what it usually does when something it doesn’t like happens – pretend it didn’t happen and pray that it goes away. Hasina maintained a close relationship with New Delhi, going back to the times when she took refuge there when her father, the founding father of Bangladesh, was killed in a coup. India tolerated her excesses so as to have at least one trustworthy friend in the region as China competes for influence (with much success) with all of its other neighbours. Ergo, no condemnation of the rigged January elections or the authorities’ brutal suppression of protests emerged from the ‘democratic beacon’. Instead, Prime Minister Narendra Modi received Hasina as the first foreign guest after he won his own third term in power in June.
As protests strengthened, the army decided it wouldn’t kill more people. Hasina decided to leave the country as enraged protesters planned to storm her palace. She took a helicopter to Delhi and India’s worst nightmare came to pass overnight. It was stripped of its most trusted ally in the neighbourhood. A day after she landed, India made its first official statement on Bangladesh, which reeked of its apathy for the plight of the killed Bangladeshis and its bitterness at losing a valuable friend in power.
Speaking in Parliament, the Indian Foreign Minister S. Jaishankar talked as though the protesters didn’t have any genuine concerns at all and depicted them as violent troublemakers. “This underlying foundation aggravated a student agitation that started in June this year. There was growing violence, including attacks on public buildings and infrastructure, as well as traffic and rail obstructions,” Jaishankar said, apparently more concerned about interruptions to traffic in Dhaka than about the subsequent killings that followed. He did not mention the high-handed police response or the shoot-to-kill order a single time.
But that was not the most shameful bit. After addressing its evacuation of Indian students from Bangladesh, Jaishankar lamented that minorities and their “temples” had come under attack by crowds that managed to expel Hasina. This was a veiled reference to Bangladesh’s 13.1 million Hindu minority. Videos spread across the venom-filled Indian social media about supposedly Hindu villages being attacked by rabid crowds in their neighbouring country. The notoriously high-decibel yet sycophantic media picked up this issue and decried a “genocide of the Hindus”. The fact that India propped up an undemocratic leader that killed innocent people received almost no mention in the country’s public discussion. The media turned it into a routine domestic issue of Hindu victimisation against Muslim villainy.
Prime Minister Modi, in a greeting post on X to the new interim leader Muhammad Yunus, went the whole hog and said, “We hope for an early return to normalcy, ensuring the safety and protection of Hindus and all other minority communities.” There is nothing wrong in saying that per se. To be clear, Hindus were harassed in some parts of Bangladesh as they were seen as allies of Hasina and her Awami League party. But violence was also directed at others, including the police and Muslim members of the Awami League. To single out the threat to Hindus posed by rampaging crowds to the exclusion of all else including the breakdown of law and order across the country following the overthrow of a despot suggests something sinister.
That sinister thing is Hindutva or Hindu nationalism, the belief that Modi’s Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) is wedded to. It views India as a fundamentally Hindu nation and Hindus as the rightful inhabitants of the land. People of other faiths are regarded as under the sufferance of the Hindus at best or as illegitimate encroachers at worst. Abroad, this ideology promotes India as a Hindu guardian, rather than as a secular country as its founding fathers fashioned it. Viewed from this lens, the fact that civilians were killed in cold blood by an Indian puppet mattered little compared to the danger faced by fellow Hindu kinsmen.
This pernicious ideology has pervaded Indian civil discourse so widely that even parties that don’t normally endorse Hindu nationalism end up mimicking the BJP line. The Communist Party of India (Marxist) said its “polit bureau expresses its serious concern at the reports of several attacks on Hindu places of worship and the minority community in Bangladesh”. No mention of the state’s violence, of course. This culture of flaunting concern for beleaguered Hindus extends beyond political parties. Yesteryear Bollywood diva Preity Zinta was not alone in feeling “devastated and heartbroken” over the violence against minorities.
“There’s outrage against the atrocities being committed against our mothers, sisters and daughters,” Modi said in his independence day speech in reference to attacks on Bangladeshi Hindus. No opportunity to gain domestic political mileage and burnish its pro-Hindu credentials from a real crisis abroad will be spared. It is worth recalling that while the BJP can’t resist caring about Hindus in Bangladesh, Amit Shah, Home Minister and Modi’s right-hand man, compared Muslim Bangladeshi immigrants in India to termites. Modi is not doing India any favours by disrespecting the Bengalis’ opposition to Hasina’s excesses and turning attention away to the plight of the Hindus. Many already view New Delhi as a wicked player that bolstered Hasina’s regime. Further narrow-minded, Hindutva-driven messaging will only weaken India’s image.
New Delhi played the same ‘Hindu guardian’ act when Hindu-Muslim riots took place in Leicester in the U.K. in 2022. As members of the two communities clashed, both sides assailed each other’s places of worship. The Indian high commission put out a statement denouncing the attacks on Hindu places of worship, shamefully disregarding the fact that mosques were also vandalised by Hindu reprobates. In fact, many Muslims in Leicester are of Indian background and not Pakistani and the high commission totally washed its hands of a significant proportion of its population. The diplomatic mission of a secular India, neglected the attack on one of its communities’ sacred places and attached greater importance to those of another. The reaction to Bangladesh is merely another episode of this reprehensible streak of Hindutva-driven posturing abroad.
India’s lecturing of Bangladesh to take adequate care of its minorities also smacks of hypocrisy. As author Kapil Komireddi wrote in the Times recently, “Its pleas for the safety of Bangladesh’s minorities are bereft of credibility, given the treatment of its own minorities over the past decade.” India’s Muslim-majority Kashmir remains heavily occupied by the military, and there isn’t a single Muslim minister in the Modi Government. Before the general elections in June, Modi ramped up anti-Muslim rhetoric calling Muslims “invaders”. India, therefore, has no moral high ground to lecture any country about protecting minorities.
Its appeal to protect Bangladeshi Hindus is also hypocritical because of the country’s aversion to having its flaws pointed out by foreigners. Any time someone from abroad calls attention to its dirty side, India’s first impulse is to bristle. For instance, when the BBC released a documentary about the Modi Government’s inaction during the 2002 anti-Muslim riots in Gujarat state, India accused the broadcaster of “colonial mindset” and banned it in India. Jaishankar snapped at reporters when EU officials griped about India’s purchase of cheap Russian oil. India behaves petulantly when foreigners point to its failures in protecting human rights or supporting territorial sovereignty, but dispenses free lectures to other countries on protecting minorities.
As Perry Anderson wrote in his coruscating book Indian Ideology, “Moral indignation is too precious an export to be wasted at home.”
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I posted below about getting my two jabs 4 months ago (but not about NHS Vaccine Central Central still urging me to do so a full month later) in case it became a requirement for being a hospital patient/transport user which I knew I would be doing a great deal of.
I duly downloaded my Covid Pass from NHS app (not the same as Covid app).
But it has to be renewed each month (quite easily) so come 27th September my pass confirming that I have had both jabs will be invalid until I renew it.
I presume that this is in case I decline a booster jab, or whatever else comes next. I can go to the pub, supermarket, cinema or church as a compliant vaxxee today but not tomorrow. How very clever of them.
I am fully aware of the medical uselessness of the ‘vaccines’; as I pointed out during a rare lunchtime coffee with an old friend last week, if vaccines are effective how come there have been so many more Cases* this year than last when nobody was vaccinated? I knew him to be mildly sceptic and he nodded in agreement before the conversation moved on.
*Cases, not illnesses, hospitalisations or deaths.
No way? Really? So it’s true that the definition of “fully vaccinated” will keep shifting?
It’s a common feature of any authentication software that the ‘token’ you are issued will expire at some time. Your app would fetch another token once the current one expires, wether it will give you a valid one back is another question entirely.
Seems that way.
My advice to everyone is to ignore all of the comings and goings of government announcements on coronavirus policy. The constant changes are clearly a psychological tactic (the government machine is full of behavioural psychologists after all) to demoralise us all, to wear us down until we submit.
Just ignore it. Set your mind and heart on resisting any measures which they do introduce, and on not complying with them. Focus on this with steely determination.
Nothing the government announces is worth reading in full. Ignore it. Ignore them.
Yup, I’ve stopped expending energy trying to predict the future or read the tea leaves. Just trying to live well.
And of course, this latest bit of mixed messaging is cockup, not conspiracy
I’m perfectly willing to accept that some of the implementation is being cocked up due to incompetence, but the underlying agenda is very clear and consistent in every Western country.
Actually – reading the runes has been piss-easy, and if we get through Christmas and New Year unscathed by Covid idiocy, it’ll be the first time I’ve been wrong as a Mystic Mog.
Well, I thought “Freedom day” was going to be postponed again, but it wasn’t. It’s a safe bet track and trace and the vaxx rollout will continue, and the testing. Pretty safe bet that international travel restrictions will continue in some form. Indefinitely. Beyond that, I really don’t know and I am not sure I want to think about it much any more. These bastards don’t deserve the space in my head required.
agreed
The government would make the shittest Robocop ever..
You have 20 seconds to comply
You have 2 weeks to comply
Okay now we’re not even going to tell you how long you’ve got to comply
Hear, hear!
Super good advice!
What is the point of vaccinating most of the population if we have less freedom`s than this time last year..
At this rate many of us will be like illegal migrants in our own country. Disgrace to happen under a so called Conservative administration. Build back better, my ar…
However, unlike illegal migrants we will have to fund everything ourselves.
The point of vaccinating everyone is exactly to have ever less freedoms.
Each and every year henceforth.
Fewer freedoms, less freedom, and fewer people!
Unless something happens. Like the dictatorship decides on it.
Government says ‘if something happens, we’ll do something.’
‘Something’ is one of the tools, in the tool box, but will only be used if ‘something’ happens.
Nice to have such clarity, isn’t it?!
My 88yr old father was living with us November to April.
He summed and arghed over getting jabbed – even as a sceptic, I insisted that it was a choice only he could make. In late-January, he duly took a jab, and after 24hrs was fine.
For his second jab, I did suggest that because he was so fit and healthy for his age, one jab was probably enough to guarantee that he didn’t expire with it.
Nevertheless, in late-April, he went and had it…….and boy did he regret it. For more than eight weeks, he was lost in a hazy world of headaches, fatigue and inability to think clearly. He then began passing blood in his urine. He was cleared of kidney, bladder and prostate issues……..the GP said it was probably jab-related excretion of blood-clots.
He ain’t touching the third – or any other – jab with a barge-pole; saying, he felt so bad in May and June that he wanted to die anyway.
I expect there are many such untold stories like this.
My elderly parents had both the jabs without incident and I expect they’ll take the 3rd (and 4th, 5th, 6th!!!) without question.
if it remains not mandatory we can count numbers of 1st, 2nd ,booster_1, booster_n
numbers could be expected to fall be people’s own experience and experiences of others
Ah, maybe the third, unlikely the fourth, and definitely not the 5th.
This problem can be solved by shoving the entire government up Kim Jong Johnson’s great fat fraudulent communist arse.
This includes Sajid Javid as well.
What utter shite.
‘Communist’ – nah. Spoiled Bullingdon Tory boy. Always was. Still is. Wake up!
I think they inhabit that space already….
Let’s face facts. The Nazi’s don’t want the Unter Mensch drinking in pubs and eating in restaurants.
They are going to do this at some point in the not so distant future when they think they can get away with it.
Heir Hitler played the long game. Team Davos is going to do the same.
The Health Secretary says vaccine passport checks could be imposed on pubs if “something happens that means that we have to take further measures”
the something that happens will be the government will make a decision to continue with their agenda and ‘take further measure’ – whilst blaming it on the unvaxxed
‘cases’ following ‘predictions’ – lol!
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
That’s Numberwang!
Ministers believe that as a last resort vaccine passports are preferable to lockdown…
yes, very clever – sell passports with ‘well it was that or lockdown’
And not at all predictable, of course.Now why does it sound familiar? Ah yes, last year it was ‘second lockdown or we will ‘have’ to cancel Christmas’. Then they cancelled Christmas anyway.
If the government gives an either/or scenario and both options are shit, you can be fairly confident that they will implement both when it comes to it.
False dichotomy, one of their favorite tricks, right after blaming the victim. “Do you want me to punch you in the face or would you rather prefer to be kicked in the groin?”
Like last year when they created the ‘if you want us to open the schools we will have to close/severely restrict the pubs again’ argument.
It’s why they opened the pubs up first.
well and truly out of ideas.
Javid told the radio station LBC that he didn’t think the country would need vaccine passports to go to the pub
Did he say this with a straight face?
Which means the passports are definitely on the way.
Simple rule of thumb – if it comes from an official invert their message and you arrive at what they are really saying.
First you hit someone in the face then explain to them how much wearing a helmet could have helped them to avoid injury. And recommend that from now on they never leave without the helmet or else you might punch them harder again.
“Ministers believe that as a last resort vaccine passports are preferable to lockdown measures”
both are impossible in a free society. But we no longer live in a free society (and not sure we ever did)
Vaccine passports will eradicate any resemblance of a free society. It’s hard to explain here but the final nail in the coffin is the CBDC (Central Bank Digital Currency). More and more convinced that the desperacy to get everyone jabbed is for this. Imagine a central bank that currently prints money by issuing debt – that debt is backed by the “full faith and credit” of the sovereign state (taxes etc). CBs want to bypass this and make not the sovereign the collateral backing the money, but rather the individual, their data and their assets directly. Digital Passports are essential for this
I didn’t get a vax, got mild covid, now I’m still not getting a vax
If they hadn’t pushed so hard I may have considered it at some point (after testing)
Now its a point of principle
Of course it’s anecdotal, but I’ve increasingly been hearing a lot of this sort of thing – the unvaxxed only getting it mildly, but the vaxxed getting it badly. In the past week I’ve come across four people who have had it recently. Three double-spiked, and one has refused the vaccine. Of those four, three were ill in bed for several days, and one just felt a bit crap. No prizes for guessing which of the four was the unvaxxed one…
the 30 somethings I work with all got it badly (ie a week in bed, sense of smell hasnt come back). all vaxxed
I’m 51 and unvaxxed. 2 days sore throat, lost sense of smell for a week
maybe they are just snowflakes
Maybe the “vaccines” are working exactly as intended.
Spot on. I always said to myself I would wait until the Autumn/Winter to see how things panned out as the data was clear that 1) there was very little chance of actually catching COVID during the spring/summer months and 2) it was already quite apparent that the effects of the vaccine (if any) would not last forever and so it would surely be better to wait until around this time of year to have it anyway (to ensure max “protection” over the winter months – I mean who takes a flu jab in the summer, right?).
But now with all this pushing, lying and coercion I am very much in the camp of “F U” out of principle. That and I still believe its not really necessary and wont provide much of a benefit. I know, as many of you here do as well, lots of double jabbed who have come down with COVID symptoms this summer. They cant fathom why they are getting ill in such numbers having never had a respiratory illness over the summer months before.
I wonder if ‘covid deaths’ will jump up just after boosters roll out – purely coincidental – and will be the something that happens which pushes the government to plan B and
mission accomplishedpassportsIn Israel, you are designated as unvaccinated up to 14 days after the booster jab. If we adopt the same standard we’ll see many ‘unvaccinated’ dying this winter. The Daily Mail will love running with those stories.
Really handy classification that as it will hide any deaths from immediate adverse reaction. That will be a coincidence though, obviously…
As far as I know they already do that here
This is distinct possibility. That and post first dose outbreaks amongst the kids.
or a new variant will emerge as a result of the booster shot
Government says ‘if something happens we’ll do something.’
They know ‘something’s going to happen.’
ADE is what’s going to happen and it will provide the perfect cover for their murderous plans.
IMO the evidence for increased risk of infection in the double-vaccinated seen in the most recent vaccine surveillance reports suggests that enhancement of disease is already occurring. The question is only how long it will take before this is reflected in hospitalisations/deaths (I’d say it’ll take a couple of months from here).
The latest vaccine surveillance report now suggests that the vaccinated aged 40-80 are about 40% more likely to catch covid. This is up from about 30% more likely in last week’s report.
Note that the relationship between ‘relative likelihood of infection’ and case numbers is an exponential function, not a linear function; if the vaccinated are 40% more likely to catch covid and pass it on, then if the whole population was vaccinated you’d expect about 5x the case numbers compared with if no-one was vaccinated (all other things being equal).
Of course, we might have more hospitalisations/deaths if no-one was vaccinated — but the majority of hospitalisations/deaths are in the vulnerable — there will be a ‘sweet spot’ of vaccination level where hospitalisations/deaths would be suppressed but the case numbers weren’t significantly higher… but we’ve almost certainly vaccinated way beyond that point now.
Anyway, the most-recent data now suggests that if they want to control covid they should restrict the movements of the vaccinated, not the unvaccinated.
we must face the fact that it might still make the difference between keeping business open at full capacity or not,
If you think a year ago, where we were last September, can you imagine if we’d had then . . . if we’d had Covid certification?
“We would have been able, with that tool, to keep open businesses that had been forced to close and were going through an absolutely wretched time. They would’ve been a game changer, a lifesaver, last year. So I think they’re an important part of our repertoire.”
here’s my prediction, Gates’ vaccine passports, that everyone in government claims to not want – will be mandatory for everything except food by Christmas
as Javid said ‘its a fact…’ we wouldn’t have needed to lockdown if we had vax passports last year… its a proven scientific fact
Buffoons. How could we have had vaccine passports last year when there were no vaccines??? (Of course there still aren’t real vaccines).
It’s almost like they are trying everything possible to destroy an already fragile sector.
We’ve been trying to buy a freehold pub for the last 3 years. Finding one that is in anyway profitable is hard, finding a bank to lend even 40% of the price is almost impossible.
Government loans, furlough etc meant barely any came to the market in 2020. Since July this year a few have trickled on at reduced prices, along with a lot of nightclubs and wedding venues. If another Christmas is taken from them now the safety nets have gone I think we’ll be seeing a lot more for sale. And unless the banks start lending that’s exact where a lot of them will stay.
Taking on a pub (or any other hospitality business) at the moment would be a brave decision! Given the likelihood of repeated kickings from the government jackboot over this winter and quite probably beyond.
we should push for a ‘previous evidence of covid infection pass’ which allows you to access all of society’s amenities
you can self-certify a previous infection
proof will not be via a paper or app based certification but will be an oral declaration
to prevent people knowing your medical history access will be granted as follows
‘would you like to come in’
‘yes please’
That just encourages them. What we should be pushing for is no certification under any circumstances.
i doubt they are reading my shitpostings – it was just a joke
That is still complying. To get us to agree with Digital IDs they don’t care if we comply with Vaccine Passports, or pretend to, it achieves the same end.
Off topic but:
“The real flu season in the hospital was always more serious than COVID has been,” Snider said. “Flu season in a hospital is very challenging, and even the tamest flu season in years past was still worse than COVID has been so far. The people who have been suffering and sadly dying are clearly people who are hundreds of pounds overweight, and people with multiple other comorbidities like stage 4 cancer. I’m not a Doctor, but the response and panic to this virus is clearly wildly disproportionate to reality.”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/new-missouri-covid-whistleblower-hospitals-lying-public-covid-can-prove/
Microsoft announced today that they want to make entering passwords history – because they are so hard to remember.
Instead they will gladly accept your biometric data (unlike a password, once stolen, you are fucked for life), or a special one-time token issued through their Authenticator mobile app.
The main innovation is (as with the whole Software as a Service concept) that neither you – nor the software you own – are the one who decides whether or not you can log in – rather, it’s Microsoft. These schemes will also be supported by hardware chips known as Trusted Computing Platform, built in all new motherboards, and without which Windows 11 will presumably not work.
Just to add another piece to the bigger trend of “from now on, we control your permissions, not you”.
Trusted Platform Module (TPM) – they’ve been around for years and are used by various security processes. Microsoft’s hard drive encryption system has used them for a long time, going back several versions of Windows.
With SaaS you don’t own the software – that is the point – you are merely paying a monthly fee and if Microsoft (or whoever the supplier is) does something which fucks up your processes, that’s just tough shit. Unfortunately the dominant software players are pushing everyone in this direction though. And the whole ‘working from home’ thing over the past 18 months has been a massive boon to them in being able to push this change much harder.
Yep, the point of TPM is to allow a sort of digital rights management which cannot be circumvented by software or end user.
One example is allowing you to open a file in an encrypted format with only a particular software that comes from Microsoft (or another so-called “trusted vendor”) and which has not been altered in any way.
Basically, your computer/software on it is no longer yours, it’s just a “platform” for executing someone else’s code, subject to their rules and permissions, subject to change at their whim. Kind of like a computer in a public library, except that you bought it and “own” it (but only theoretically, as you can see – what you really “own” is a temporary use permission controlled by a third party – technically very similar to the time-limited vaxx passport).
And correct, SaaS is the less covert version of the very same concept – becoming entirely dependent on a big external vendor, who can cut your access or give you the boot any time they please (e.g. see what happened to the Parler social media platform). The horrifying thing is that it is not only done to end users, it is sold to companies all around the world, even those who (pretend to) be running IT infrastructure for other customers, by taking advantage of bribes, incompetence and laziness. (I happen to work for one such company – they have many of their core services running at mercy of Microsoft right now.)
“Basically, your computer/software on it is no longer yours …”
This has been emerging for a long time. Some implementations are just inconvenient, but others are legalized fraud. I bought a complete !:50000 OS map package a few years ago, with the possibility of buying in other scales of map on request . Completely satisfactory, and much used.
However, now they have a new subscription system (sold on the basis of totally unnecessary constant ‘updating’). The original facility has consequently been downgraded in terms of access – as if someone had come along and binned you paid-for paper maps.
In my experience this sort of scam is used more and more to undermine ‘ownership’ with a constant revenue flow. It’s a form of ‘ransom ware’, quite different from paying for updates.
The businesses weren’t forced to close because of the virus – they were forced to close because of government policy. Not the same thing at all. What would have happened if they’d been allowed to stay open, in terms of infection numbers? probably pretty much what happened with them closed – as proven by stats from around the world showing a complete lack of correlation between government bullying measures and case numbers.
And the same of course applies to the Vaxxports. They know perfectly well that the spiked can still spread it, but hospitality venuies are not a major source of transmission anyway, so imposing restrictions on them will make no difference – other than possibly pushing a few more into banruptcy.
He said that contingency plans “may well include vaccine passports as a reserve measure”. He cited a new variant that was more infectious or vaccine resistant, saying “in that situation, we have to be ready to take further action”. …
Yes, vaccine passports make perfect sense as a measure against a vaccine resistant variant!
If SAGE or PHE says it will happen, then it’s done. The government, in the loosest sense of the word, simply implements the health body directive. Our politicians and PM are so shit that I don’t think for one minute they have the mental capacity and intelligence to do this independently. They’re being led, whether they like it or not
I know that Tory boys (and they’re mainly boys) are not of the brightest – by definition. But I can’t believe that they are just unwitting victims.
I honestly believe they’re so inept, they can be led anywhere, especially when the intellect of those leading them is infinitely higher, despite their shit reasoning and motives with SAGE and PHE
More coercive controlling psych ops. Stay resolute, stay strong, stay unvaccinated!!!
SO, initially I brushed this off given I don’t follow any celebrities nor what they say on platforms such as twitter and instagram. But has anyone realized what repercussions this whole Nikki Minaj thing is going to have? She has 157M followers. I was just shown a live recording from her describing the situation in Trinidad
Pants firmly ablaze there, Sajid…how very Gove of you.
Of course if anybody asks me if I’ve been “vaccinated” I say “no and neither have you”.
There has been a lot of discussion on the stupidity/’cock-up’ or conspiracy origins of the shit-show.
What, however is certain is that any member of the electorate now falling for this particular part of the scam is irremediably stupid. No excuses now.
Lots of new TV adverts promoting cremation services. Do they know something we don’t? A bad winter ahead perhaps?!
Time for four division apartheid. Which one are you?
Div 1. 2 jabs + booster
Div 2. 2 jabs
Div 3. 1 jab
Div 4. No jab
I will continue to languish in division four.
I think ‘No jab’ will probably count as ‘non-league’!
“No jab” is more like the proposed euro super league… everyone calling the members a bunch of selfish arseholes but long term everyone is going to want to be in it.
So will I. Except that I am not ‘languishing’ in it; I rejoice in it.
You forgot the elite group:
Div 0. Two jabs + booster (all saline).
What a bunch of snivelling liars.
Javid claims that if a new vaccine resistant strain comes along they may need to implement vaccine passes. Huh? So if a strain breaks through to vaccinated people then we need vaccine passports so, what, we know who is prone to being infected?
Then Boris with the insane logic that if we had had vaccine passports last year (when there was no fake vaccine, then we could have kept businesses open that HIS government closed?
The fucking mad hatter and the mad queen all rolled into one terrifying governing class.
They need to be locked up.
I was under the impression that the Delta variant was vaccine resistant.
When does it become ok to execute them?
They will 100% bring it in as a way to avoid another lockdown. The price for not having a lockdown will be accepting passports on a temporary basis. They’ll spin it so that vaccine passports are in essence about keeping the unvaccinated safe and away from infection. They may use spot checks to enforce this rather than checking everyones details. This will be enough to deter the unvaccinated from going out.
Whitty stated the other day that the right to personal choice is an important part of medical ethics. So its obvious passports are unethical.
Not sure that they’ll spin it this way, as that would imply that they are pretending to care about the unvaccinated. They generally try to make it clear that they regard us as scum, so the spinning is more likely to be along the lines of them protecting the vaxxed by keeping us filthy unvaxxed away from them. The media will of course not ask the very obvious question of ‘if the vaccines work, why is that needed’.
Ministers believe that as a last resort vaccine passports are preferable to lockdown measures
The only correlation between the two is that they are both doing nothing positive medically.
When a country has ministers who believe and spout such a fact free statement, it is in deep trouble.
When it has ministers who don’t believe them but spout them and lie about it regardless, it is in arguably even more trouble.
Our friends in the NHS?
Human beings have no friends in the NHS.
If a new variant was vaccine resistant what in the name of all that is holy would be the fucking point of a vaccine passport?
The Delta variant is vaccine resistant.
What’s more, I bet that the mitigating effects claimed for the quacksines (if they exist at all) are actually due to the Delta variant being intrinsically less ‘deadly’.
I think they would reply that more unvaxed are being hospitalised etc. My question is whether their vaccination status means they are more likely to be hospitalised and, once hospitalised, treated with the death sentence of intubation.
And even that is questionable, following the recent PHE stats that show a higher rate of hospitalisation in the vaxxed than unvaxxed for most age groups. There’s some uncertainty in those numbers because they are relying on NHS registers to calculate the total number of unvaxxed (calculated as total population minus vaxxed) and the ONS estimates of the UK population are lower, which would increase the rate of hospitalisation for the unvaxxed. On the other hand it’s likely that there are UK residents who are not registered with the NHS, which would push the numbers the other way.
Let me see. 69.7% of “Covid” deaths in August to September among the “double-vaccinated”. Less than 80% of the (known) adult population (average) “double-vaccinate” over this period. Plus questions about how they measure it (eg people counted as “unvaccinated” within 14 days of having the “vaccine”).
I think you could be on to something…
I actually caught a bad case of covid a few weeks ago (confirmed via PCR test). It wasn’t a pleasant experience, and it’s not one I’d wish to repeat, and lasted two weeks. But I survived it – no thanks to the NHS whose total advice consisted of ‘drink water, and take paracetamol’, despite some horrendous symtoms including fever and cold sweats.
The thing is, I survived, despite not being vaccinated (I’m in my fifties), and now I must have antibodies. I have no need now to get a vaccine, but the government takes no account of natural immunity from covid exposure, which is many times more effective than vaccine induced immunity.
This is another reason why vaccine passports make no sense, as only those ‘jabbed’ are considered safe, discounting all those with natural immunity.
Natural immunity which is 27 times more reliable than the jab!!!!
But natural immunity doesn’t exist, and that’s official. Not true ‘but official.
From the Graun:
THE VACCINE DOESN’T DO SHIT!
It does do shit – it increases infection. This is pretty much indisputable now – go to data for any country that has had a high level of vaccine rollouts – particularly those where it wasn’t already endemic – and track the vaccine taken up against infections. Correlation time and time and time again. The vaccine is worse than useless – it is a medical disaster.
Yes, I wholeheartedly agree, and stand corrected. It’s clear that the vaccine is driving this ‘pandemic’ now, as evidenced by the multitude of countries with low vaccination rates vs those with high. Why no one seems to be able to see this is absolutely beyond me. As with the lockdowns, it’s just another sunk cost fallacy writ large.
It seems to me that, Johnson was very clear about what he said last week about scrapping restrictions from the Coronavirus Act and Javid made a very clear statement that vaccine passports would not be introduced. Entrance stage left, Witless and Unbalanced, and, once again, Johnson caves into them. We are at the end of all this as Robert Dingwall said, Johnson should have called time on the ‘pandemic’ some time ago. We were going in a positive direction then these two put their heavy handed oar in. They seem to be desperate to subjugate the British people and ensure they live thoroughly miserable lives as a result of their corrupt science. Let’s not forget the pair bounced us into Lockdown 1 with falsified, crass, ‘modelling’ the figures of which never even came close to materialising. They bounced us into Lockdown 2 on the basis of clearly falsified statistics which were found to be so within the hour of their publishing them. They bounced us into Lockdown 3 with equally falsified modelling and statistics, again, proven to be so. The only things MPs can do now is to vote out the Coronovirus Bill which is this week I think. I thought all of this was going to a vote in Parliament soon in any event? Is there anybody in the Cabinet that is capable of telling even a smidgeon of the truth? We all know the NHS cannot organise a piss up in a Brewery. Year on year they always have winter pressures, year on year they never have a contingency plan except ‘give us more money’. We know they seem to record any death as Covid and that, according to the Government’s own figures, 45% of those deaths were wrongly recorded as Covid. All of the deaths have serious comorbidities. By my calculation, everyone in this country has been tested loads of time, the majority, if figures from last year are taken, seem to have tested positive at one point. We allegedly have 80% of the population vaccinated. Isn’t that enough? Where’s a Military General in the UK that can take over the Government and introduce a rational alternative – even if it is a military Government. Johnson cannot stand up to Witless and Unbalanced. I notice Pantsdown is also making a resurgence! What a veritable shitshow.
Since they’re following “the science” I hope someone reminded him about the necessity of eating eating a Scotch Egg ….. to ward off the virus particles?
I guess that must be somewhere on their list of “effective measures.” Somewhere before crawling on the floor to avoid the virus particles in the air.
Digital ID + digital currency = THE TRAP! Use cash, refuse ID.
‘Here you are, no you can’t have it, here you….’ up-the-garden-path tease (from Mar 20 to Mar 22) and ‘project fear’ are tricks of the immature.
The more attention you give them, the worse they get. I don’t squander my attention on the badly behaved. I reserve it for the well behaved; they earn it. Time is not only money, it’s life.
There’ve been no real pubs open since Mar 20, only pseudo. If no one went, they’d have to stop kow-towing to ‘nanny’ and we’d get our real pubs back, but too few have hung onto their self-respect. ‘Nanny’ et al are guilty of being a public heath menace. Not us. We are innocent.
Silkie Carlo and her team at Big Brother Watch UK warn that passes are linked to facial recognition, to police, to agencies beyond UK shores where data is under different laws
There’s a lot of ‘mights’ and ‘mays’ in what Javid says, which means that ‘probably not’ is by far the more likely. Why can’t they understand that?
Exemption from having a Covid Pass
https://www.nhsx.nhs.uk/covid-19-response/using-the-nhs-covid-pass/#exemptions
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