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Fears of ‘Civil War’ as French Nationalist Groups Clash with Migrants After Village Party Knife Attack

by Robert Kogon
1 December 2023 11:00 AM

Last Saturday, in the aftermath of the village-ball attack in the south of France which took the life of 16 year-old Thomas Perrotto, dozens of protesters, chanting “Justice for Thomas” but also “Islam out of Europe”, attempted to march on the Arab migrant neighbourhood from which many of the assailants are reported to have come, leading to clashes with both French security forces and locals. The protestors, described as “ultra-Right” by French officials and the French media, reportedly came armed with “iron bars, sticks and fireworks”, but clearly got the worse of it.

One protestor is known to have been abducted by local residents, stripped naked and beaten, being left in critical condition.

The clashes took place in Romans-sur-Isère, some 10 miles from the village of Crépol where the village-ball attack occurred. The protestors were attempting to reach the La Monnaie housing projects. Many of the assailants involved in the Crépol attack are reportedly residents of La Monnaie.  

A tweet by the prefecture of the Drôme region put the total number of protestors at 80, describing them as having tried to “invade” [envahir] La Monnaie, and announcing a large police mobilisation and 20 arrests.

The use of the term “invade” sparked numerous bewildered and outraged replies, such as the following from X-user ‘VeryBadMoFo’:

They invaded a neighbourhood? Is this a joke? Can you explain to us why these young people did not have the right to enter this neighbourhood? Is it supposed be a foreign territory governed by its own laws? Is that why your cops never go in there?

La Monnaie is reputed to be one of France’s many ‘no-go zones’, which are largely controlled by local drug traffickers and gangs and which the police are reluctant to enter.

Remarkably, within just two days of the events, on Monday, six of the ultimately 24 “ultra-Right” protestors arrested would already be sentenced to prison terms of from six to 10 months! It should be noted that none of the suspects arrested in connection with the Crépol attack have yet to be charged.

Moreover, no arrests have even been announced in connection with the abduction and assault of the 20-year-old protestor who, per the local newspaper the Dauphiné libéré, was “beaten with a golf club, stabbed in the hand and burned with cigarettes by some fifteen individuals in the La Monnaie neighbourhood”, before reportedly being found naked and unconscious by other residents.

According to the Dauphiné libéré, the six convicted “ultra-Right” protestors include a philosophy student at the prestigious Sorbonne in Paris, as well as a soldier, an intern in mechanical engineering and a software developer.

Numerous video clips and still images documenting the events in Romans have been circulating on social media, both on accounts sympathetic to the protestors and accounts hostile to them. Most of the imagery appears to have originally emerged on the latter.

Video of the protestors carrying a banner reading “Justice for Thomas – Neither Forget, Nor Forgive” while chanting “Islam Out of Europe!” can be viewed here.

🚨ALERTE INFO🚨

🔴 « L’islam hors d’Europe » scandent des dizaines de manifestants ce soir près de la cité de la Monnaie à Romans-sur-Isere.🇫🇷

🔴Ce rassemblement fait écho à l’assassinat de Thomas à #Crepol.#Macron #Paris #France #Islam #Lyon #Lille pic.twitter.com/f2PjLV5cdy

— Politique & Guerre (@RN49490561) November 25, 2023

Video available here appears to show the protestors being pursued by a unit of France’s CRS special forces.

émeutes à romans-sur-isère après la mort de thomas pic.twitter.com/gdb0K2semH

— pelinczz (@garde_laa_peche) November 25, 2023

Cellphone video which appears to show the 20 year-old protestor who was abducted can be viewed here. The commentator remarks: “This is how the fachos [fascists] end up. Stripped naked.”

The below two images appear to show the same young man. The first caption reads: “Islam out of Europe big SOB you want to come lay a finger on our brothers with your gang of pigs lie down don’t move SOB”.

The second caption reads: “Abandoned by his pals who came to ‘kill some Arab’.”

Video which appears to show the young man immediately after his ‘capture’ is available here. One of his abductors can be seen brandishing a golf club.

While the designation “ultra-Right” is not very informative – why is ‘far’ not enough? – there is little question that the protests drew support from France’s so-called ‘identitarian’ movement, which attempts to affirm a native French or native European identity and is openly hostile to Islam.

There have long been fears of civil-war-like conditions emerging in France, pitting ‘identitarian’ nationalists against Islamist forces. Several works of recent French fiction depict such a scenario: most famously, Michel Houellebecq’s Submission, but also the pseudonymous Franck Poupart’s untranslated Demain Les Barbares (Tomorrow, the Barbarians).

In the aftermath of the events in Romans, French Minister of the Interior Gérald Darmanin proudly declared that France had avoided a “small civil war”. But in the meantime there have already been two copycat protests in Rennes and Lyon, with protestors again chanting “Justice for Thomas” and “Islam out of Europe”, as well as singing the French national anthem, ‘The Marseillaise’.

Numerous commentators, even in relatively mainstream French media, have expressed their concern that if the French Government does not act more vigorously, not just against the “ultra-Right”, but against the criminality, violence and hate emanating from no-go zones like La Monnaie, a larger civil war is still on the horizon.

Robert Kogon is the pen name of a widely-published journalist covering European affairs. Subscribe to his Substack and follow him on X.

Tags: Civil warFar RightFranceIslamist Extremists

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    psychedelia smith
    psychedelia smith
    1 year ago

    “While the designation “ultra-Right” is not very informative – why is ‘far’ not enough?”

    Because the ‘progressive left’ know that unless they keep rebranding their bullshit, people will smell it and the game’s up. Even though the people are already enveloped in a noxious brown cloud of it the size of the Helix Nebula.

    Yesterday I noticed the BBC no longer thinks “the climate emergency” adequately describes the seriousness of 1C of mild historically unremarkable global warming over 150 years, so they’ve rebranded it “the climate collapse”.

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    Jon Garvey
    Jon Garvey
    1 year ago
    Reply to  psychedelia smith

    They’re right – I just looked out the window, and the climate had completely gone! Vanished! Then I looked closer, and it seems to be lying in a thin layer on the ground. If only I’d switched the boiler off earlier…

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    Ron Smith
    Ron Smith
    1 year ago
    Reply to  psychedelia smith

    But if they use the word ‘collapse’ that implies there is nothing to be done, therefore the control grid under threat.

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    RTSC
    RTSC
    1 year ago

    The situation across Europe has been deliberately engineered. The Globalists want a civil war and the excuse to impose draconian laws … which will only be used against the native populations.

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    porgycorgy
    porgycorgy
    1 year ago

    Thank you for this balanced report. It’s of interest and importance. The mis-use of terms like ‘far right’ and ‘ultra right’ needs to be handled firmly by all conservative / classical liberal commentators. I’m not even fully sure of what ‘far right’ means any more. It has been heartening to see a slight loosening of the ridiculous stranglehold by the media on Stephen Yaxley-Lennon recently – far too much hatred directed towards a man who frightens the PTB so much with his calling out of islamism that they persecute him and demonise him relentlessly. You’d think he was Satan, if you listened to Piers Morgan, wouldn’t you?

    Last edited 1 year ago by Hardliner
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    RW
    RW
    1 year ago
    Reply to  porgycorgy

    Far right means very much to the right. That’s a sort-of meaningful term. However, ultra right isn’t as it means right beyond right which is an impossible situtation as there’s only right to the right. This leads to a more general warning: Beware of people using meaningless terms for political propanda. Climate collapse or global boiling would immediately come to mind here. Or safe and effective vaccine. Unsurprisingly, all of these come from the same blob.

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    Mogwai
    Mogwai
    1 year ago

    Just a case of ”same sh*t, different day”, as far as France is concerned. Ditto for most other European countries you care to read about. The mayor of the above town is getting death threats for speaking out;

    ”The mayor of a French town at the center of a racially motivated murder earlier this month has received several death threats for speaking out about a section of her town’s population that refuses to integrate into French society.
    Marie-Hélène Thoraval is the mayor of Romans-sur-Isère which was home to the youth gang, many of whom were of a migration background, that traveled to the nearby village of Crépol on Nov. 19 and vowed to “stab White people”.

    They gatecrashed a winter ball in the village hall and wounded nine people, including 16-year-old Thomas who was stabbed to death.
    Speaking to the Europe 1 radio station earlier this week, Thoraval lamented the fact that some within her community “refuse any form of citizenship and integration”.
    She has since revealed that she received a flurry of death threats for her remarks.
    In an interview with BFMTV on Thursday, the French mayor spoke to two anonymous calls made to the town hall switchboard on Wednesday morning “with a message that was more like intimidation, asking me if I had a Kalashnikov at home and if I had security guards”.

    “It went up a notch in the afternoon when I received a private message on Instagram specifying that I was to be decapitated, that my skull would be juggled, and that all that would be done within a month,” she added.
    “These are real death threats,” Thoraval told the broadcaster, revealing she had filed police complaints due to the nature of the messages.
    “In these messages, I am described as a fascist. I imagine where that comes from,” she added.”

    https://rmx.news/france/french-mayor-threatened-with-decapitation-for-speaking-out-about-sections-of-her-community-who-refuse-to-integrate/

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    RW
    RW
    1 year ago

    It’s perhaps noteworthy that ultra is Latin for beyond. The beyond-right is an obviously meaningless term. If the outcome of this chain of events was that another French guy was tortured and left unconscious in the street by the roughly the same people responsible for the Crépol attack thanks to the violent intervention of the French police, France obviously didn’t avoid a civil war, the police just ensured that the already existing civil war had the desired outcome.

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    Nearhorburian
    Nearhorburian
    1 year ago

    Half of French Army ration packs are “sans porc”.

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    huxleypiggles
    huxleypiggles
    1 year ago

    The possibility of civil war is I believe a deliberate attempt to disguise what is really going on. If French people rise up against the muslims who have been forced upon them this can hardly be civil war.

    The French people are coming to accept that the muslims mean them harm. They have no affiliations with France or its people and do not seek integration but rather top dog status. So this is certainly NOT a civil war but a war between two diametrically opposed civilisations. Foreign invaders seeking to subdue and ultimately eradicate the indigenous people. A war of attrition.

    If indigenous European populations can accept that they are being invaded the rhetoric will alter. Comforting platitudes which seek to pass off the invaders as ‘poor, illegal immigrants fleeing war, persecution and strife’ will more readily be challenged for the lies that they are.

    As with the Scamdemic anger will grow once realisation dawns that our nominal leaders have betrayed us. The problem for the people of Europe is whether the awakening will be big enough or soon enough to allow us to evict the would-be conquerors.

    We are not on the brink of civil wars by any means but simply old fashioned wars where the protagonists are good versus evil.

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    Mogwai
    Mogwai
    1 year ago
    Reply to  huxleypiggles

    Also of interest is the fact that French churches are under frequent attack. Two per day get vandalized on average, apparently;

    ”In July 2023, for instance, Muslims attacked and desecrated several churches in France, by breaking the doors and windows of one church and spray-painting anti-Jesus and pro-Muhammad graffiti on its walls. The men also torched at least two historic churches — a 16th century church in Drosnay, and the 12th century Saint-Georges De La Haye-Descartes church — after general riots prompted by the June 27 police shooting of Nahel Merzouk, a Muslim criminal.

    Not only did French authorities pretend that these two heritage churches simply “caught fire” — “probably due to a storm” — but they insisted that it was the police killing that prompted otherwise peaceful Muslims to riot at all.
    If this was the case, what does one make of the fact that Muslims have been attacking churches in France for decades? Below is a recent sampling of attacks that occurred before the June 27 shooting of Merzouk:”

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/20171/jihad-on-churches-france

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    huxleypiggles
    huxleypiggles
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Mogwai

    Thanks for the additional info Mogs 👍

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    The Real Engineer
    The Real Engineer
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Mogwai

    There is a question to be asked here, is this violence (not taking sides) about being “not white” or religion? The Koran contains considerable hate, and in my view should be proscribed simply on this ground, any other book saying that the infidel (who ever that is) must be killed, is incitement to actual violence at the least. Christianity preaches love, Islam preaches hate. For some reason the Left think that the hate people are better than the lovers. This is very, very curious. I think it is really about white or not, the Left hate white people, although they are often white. Of course what they really want is violent revolution, but this is a good proxy to try to start it.

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    D J
    D J
    1 year ago
    Reply to  The Real Engineer

    I disagree. The Koran should be taught. It is important to understand the malice in it and most importantly to understand that,unlike nearly all other religions and philosophies,it has no Golden Rule.
    Perhaps a lawyer with a theological bent could tot up how many years Mohammed would serve if his crimes were tried by a modern court.

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    Smudger
    Smudger
    1 year ago
    Reply to  D J

    And the Talmud too? There is some pretty nasty anti-goyim stuff to be found there.

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    Ron Smith
    Ron Smith
    1 year ago

    “big SOB you want to come lay a finger on our brothers with your gang of pigs lie down don’t move SOB”

    Hopefully these scumbags haven’t multiplied and replaced the French population yet, and might just get overrun and wiped out!

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    The Real Engineer
    The Real Engineer
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Ron Smith

    If this carries on for much longer it is likely that some will get consequences. They will then claim that the result is due to hatrid of certain skin tones, and be released as “not guilty” entirely on the basis of ethnicity, but the indigenous French will be jailed forever. Of course this is the lawlessness we see in Africa as a whole, just remember the expulsion of white farmers from Zimbabwe, and the same in South Africa. Both Countries are corrupt, broke hell holes. The effect of melanin on people seems to be much worse than too much sun!

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    HicManemus
    HicManemus
    1 year ago

    It’s always us, the indigenous folk, who seem to be the problem.

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    Grim Ace
    Grim Ace
    1 year ago

    It starts. Charles Martel and Holge Danske are stirring from their slumber

    You can only insult us for so long.

    It was not part of their blood,
    It came to them very late,
    With long arrears to make good,
    When the Saxon began to hate.

    They were not easily moved,
    They were icy — willing to wait
    Till every count should be proved,
    Ere the Saxon began to hate.

    Their voices were even and low.
    Their eyes were level and straight.
    There was neither sign nor show
    When the Saxon began to hate.

    It was not preached to the crowd.
    It was not taught by the state.
    No man spoke it aloud
    When the Saxon began to hate.

    It was not suddently bred.
    It will not swiftly abate.
    Through the chilled years ahead,
    When Time shall count from the date
    That the Saxon began to hate.

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    Less government
    Less government
    1 year ago

    This is not a Civil War. It is the indigenous people of France trying to protect themselves against an attack and invasion of foreign
    people.

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    Shirespeed
    Shirespeed
    1 year ago

    “Remarkably, within just two days of the events, on Monday, six of the ultimately 24 “ultra-Right” protestors arrested would already be sentenced to prison terms of from six to 10 months! It should be noted that none of the suspects arrested in connection with the Crépol attack have yet to be charged.”

    Well obviously. Who is going to kick off in large numbers if some of their ilk are swiftly imprisoned, and who, being largely law abiding is going to be easily cowed into submission?

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    GMO
    GMO
    1 year ago

    The newer immigrants are neo-colonialists.

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