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Nick Dixon and Toby Young Talk About the Huw Edwards BBC Sex Scandal, Miss Netherlands Being a Bloke and Ask Whether Harry and Meghan are Getting Divorced

by Will Jones
12 July 2023 10:06 PM

Welcome to episode 45 of the Weekly Sceptic!

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  • ‘Miss Netherlands’ is now a bloke

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EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
5 months ago

I do not see much difference between the two versions of deep state which James Alexander gives us. Times and places were different but the methods and objectives are much more similar than he allows. The Turkish version may have been heavy on the assassination method whereas in the UK and USA it is done by regulation and leaks but the outcome is the same: the perpetrators control the show.

The objectives in Turkey may have been no more than cash (but I suspect they were) whereas we like to think in the UK it is only political outcomes the deep state seeks to impose. But is it? They wallow in high salaries, low work demand, zero responsibbility,m lifetime security and handsome pensions followed by a near-monopoly of public honours. Their sort of people are also protected by their system in quangoes, approved media and charities. They ensure funds go to te people they approve of and it is taken by force of the law from those they don’t much care about (the producers of wealth and income in the private sector).

I do not know whether Cummings has changed his mind on Covid but anyone is allowed to make a mistake. Indeed, to really succeed with a serious agenda of reform we need multiple Cummings including some switched on politicians able to challenge and then decide.

I thought the praise for Fukuyama particularly destructive for his case. That was the man who told us there was to be peace on earth and never ending prosperity as a result of fixed but progressively irrelevant borders, social democracy, and the consummate skills of the deep state in managing the economy. Sadly the elites half believed that and the other half welcomed it as a way of justifying their globalist anti-democratic narrative.

In all, a useful article which I shall lilely read again but I feel it is too dismissive of change. We cannot go on like this with an ever increasing state showing ever increasing intolerance, authoritarianism and incompetence. If political appointees for the top (say) three levels of all state funded organisations then so be it.

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DiscoveredJoys
DiscoveredJoys
5 months ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

You could argue that there is a continuum… from ‘Rotten Boroughs’ to Cities run by a political machine, to a ‘deep state’…. and eventually a Global Deep State which already exists in parts (like the EU perhaps?).

I’d also argue that this is (mostly) not planned, just a murmuration of individuals in positions of power (but on fame) flocking together. The way to undo it is to devolve authority to the lowest level and break up the higher level machine. At least that way democracy has a possibility of working, including voting with your feet.

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Insurrectionist
Insurrectionist
5 months ago
Reply to  DiscoveredJoys

Well done, you’ve just conjured up a great excuse..

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EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
5 months ago
Reply to  DiscoveredJoys

However it began to evolve they have continued it because it suits them.

I do not believe devolution has helped or could do so. Handing large parts of government back to the voters would be a substantial help.

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Insurrectionist
Insurrectionist
5 months ago

“The problem with Cummings is that he a political rationalist. You may recall that he was, and remains, a Covid-maximalist: that is, he is one of the people who made COVID-19 into something.”
Errrr.. You’ve missed the point entirely…. He was under strict orders as were all of them…

The Deep State run the UK… What is it exactly that you don’t understand….

And is Cummings right??? Yes, anyone who can think outside the box knew this well before Cummings opened his mouth

Are people oblivious to the facts… Who bankrolled Starmers campaign…. Who bankrolled Trumps campaign.
Who has paid all the cabinet members 10s of 1000s of pounds.
Where did Labour mps fly to for meetings before Labour even won the election..

I wish people would wake up

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MadWolf303
MadWolf303
5 months ago
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I think you’ll find that Trump and his crew are anything but Deep State…..check out Steve Bannon.

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Insurrectionist
Insurrectionist
5 months ago
Reply to  MadWolf303

Hilarious….you’ve been had
Why did they fund his election campaign then ???
Who are his funders …..
Do you really think Trump and his crew are powerful enough to dislodge the Deep State 🙄

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MadWolf303
MadWolf303
5 months ago
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Well so have over 70 million US voters.

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Insurrectionist
Insurrectionist
5 months ago
Reply to  MadWolf303

Yep… Not surprised are you that politicians never keep their pre election word..

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Pilla
Pilla
5 months ago
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At last someone asking the right questions!

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
5 months ago

Who can really know what people truly think but my impression was that “Covid” presented Cummings with an almost unique opportunity to make a further mark after Brexit, to use what he thinks are his tremendous skills to do a super exciting project with a huge budget.

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RW
RW
5 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

I prefer a much simpler explanation: Cummings likes complicated computer stuff because this enables him to appear much smarter than he actually is by talking about things which sound seriously important despite nobody – especially not Cummings himself – really understands them.

But this doesn’t really matter: Cummings is the guy who’ll run when told that some kind of danger might soon actually manifest itself. And political leaders such people make not.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
5 months ago
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Yes I think that’s quite plausible and IMO not incompatible with my take on it

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RW
RW
5 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

I don’t think he really took or planned to take advantage of it. It’s just that COVID with it’s blizzard of deadly serious numbers generated by seriously complicated computer programs and muscular disregard for anything established was the perfect Cummings-trap and caught him just like a venus flytrap catches flies. It also sort-of consumed him as it ended his political career to substantiate itself for some more time.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
5 months ago
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And yet both him and Ferguson saw that ‘Covid’ was not dangerous enough to cancel family (or banging) matters. And what an excuse, “I drove 150 miles to a Castle to test my eyes”.

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RW
RW
5 months ago

Let’s not forget that Cummings fled panically out of No.10 (he was filmed doing this) after some politicians he was in daily contact with had tested positive “for COVID”, bundled his wife and his children into the car and drove like a madman through half of England to hide with his parents(!) from the storm of plague and riots in London he certainly believed to be coming (while the country was in lockdown and travel was strictly prohibited). Whether gullibility or cowardice are the dominating factors of his character could make an interesting academic discussion for psychologists. But he has certainly more than enough of either of both (on top of also being a natural born liar — eyesight!) and hence “Enough of this guy!”

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FerdIII
FerdIII
5 months ago
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Agree. Cummings is just another Rona fascist clown. An enabler of the deep state. I wonder how much he made for his role in the Rona totalitarianism. As percipient as Doris the Feuhrer.

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MadWolf303
MadWolf303
5 months ago

The authors definition of the Deep State may well be correct, but he assumes they remain static, the modern Deep State has certainly not remained static……over time it has morphed from a mere bureaucracy, into a controlling elite, that enjoys uncontrolled power across continents.

So much so it ran the US for the last 4 years, with no visible head , even running wars…..it controls the UK, picking governments before the electorate have seen the choice and even dumping them when the ‘ wrong’ one takes power/wins an election……see Austria and Roumania.

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Insurrectionist
Insurrectionist
5 months ago
Reply to  MadWolf303

I quote Eric Weinstein..
“There are people and organizations whom you can’t find on a Google search ”

You are correct ,we don’t even know the names of individuals running the show ..
But don’t be mislead in to thinking Trump and his crew will challenge the Deep State …he’s just another puppet …sorry to disappoint..

He wouldn’t have won the election otherwise……

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MadWolf303
MadWolf303
5 months ago
Reply to  Insurrectionist

Anyone who thinks a Google search, is worth spit, has not being paying attention.

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Insurrectionist
Insurrectionist
5 months ago
Reply to  MadWolf303

Yep… And whys that do you think??
I’m interested as why you think that is so?

Cause I know why….

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Insurrectionist
Insurrectionist
5 months ago
Reply to  MadWolf303

“Anyone who thinks a Google search, is worth spit,”

You said it…

Why?

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Pilla
Pilla
5 months ago
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Absolutely

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NickR
NickR
5 months ago

The tragedy of Cummings is that he sees himself as an original thinker, remember when he went out recruiting for ‘weirdos & misfits’, it was big news at the time, early 2019. He came up with the Warner brothers & a couple of other ‘big-data’ analysts. And what did they do? The next, known to all but them, charlatan who came through the door with a bridge to sell, one Neil Ferguson esq, convinced them that the sky was falling in.
They went from heterodox to orthodox in an afternoon.

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Steve Hatch
Steve Hatch
5 months ago

Deep state suggests some sort of underlying organisation. I prefer “The Blob”.

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soundofreason
soundofreason
5 months ago

Cummings wants government to be efficient? God preserve us!

No – I want government to be completely inefficient until it is minimalist.

Minimum interference in people’s lives done as simply as possible. Sack most of the civil service. We should never be more than a layer or two down from addressing the decision makers in government.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
5 months ago

Andrew Bridgen also mentioned in an interview, when discussing the welfare of his constituents to David Cameron and George Osborne, they just replied with something along the lines of….”It’s just a game”.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
5 months ago

“And he says Gove only achieved anything at the Department of Education by “purging” the officials.”

Well he obviously didn’t purge them enough!

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
5 months ago

Nobody is right about the ‘deep state’ because the term was coined by Peter Dale Scott, and he was referring to a very specific operation within government that might have to assert itself in the even of a decapitation strike. It does a great disservice to him to just throw this around and making it mean thatever you want it to mean. Of course there is a permanent self-serving bureaucracy. If you are using the term ‘deep state’ casually then you are simply falling into clumsiness. The Anglo-Americans don’t make that much effort to hide their crimes. They will kill a president in broad daylight. Carl Jung said upon meeting Allen Dulles, that in that moment he learned that the opposite of love isn’t hate but power.

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allanplaskett
allanplaskett
5 months ago

‘Yet Cummings, despite his colossal mistake over COVID-19, is a voice worth pondering.’

Anyone capable of getting it wrong on the scale Cummings got covid wrong should never be credited again. In September 2020 when Cummings was howling for Lockdown 2, we knew from the Diamond Princess that cvd9 affected one person in three, and was lethal only to the extreme age-frail, moribund and diabetic obese.

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