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Why Are University Students So Oddly Passive and Disengaged?

by Busqueros
2 July 2023 11:00 AM

Yesterday, one of my students came to see me. She had failed her exam, and wanted some ‘feedback’ on how she could improve. I of course agreed, and we sat down together to look at her paper, for which she had received a mark of 13 out of 100 (the requirement to pass being 40).

What was immediately evident was that she simply had not displayed any real knowledge about the subject she had been studying ostensibly for a year. One could have put the exam questions to somebody down at the local pub and received broadly the same kind of common sense (and wrong) responses. I put it to her that in order to pass a subject at university, it is necessary to know something about it – and that the reason she had failed was because she evidently did not in this case really know anything about the area which the exam concerned.

Strangely (I was expecting her to insist that she had studied hard for the exam or come up with some kind of ‘my hamster died’ excuse for her performance) she readily conceded my point. In fact, she displayed a blithe indifference to the idea that there might be anything shameful in not knowing anything about a subject she had been studying for many months, at a cost of almost £10,000 in tuition fees alone. “I didn’t really revise,” she said. “And I only really came to the first couple of lectures.”

“How about I give you some feedback when you put in some effort?” is what I wanted to say, but didn’t. I of course was a bit more polite than that. But I did tell her that the only ‘feedback’ I could give was that she might think about studying properly and actually reading things – and then try to display an understanding of what she had read. She took this as one would take a recommendation from a doctor that one ought to go on a diet: with a wincing acknowledgement that I was probably right, conveyed in such a way as to imply that she would probably go on stuffing her face with black forest gateau.

What is one to make of this attitude? The university I work for is by no means at the lower end of the scale and we ostensibly recruit students with decent ‘A’ levels or at least lots of UCAS points (not necessarily the same thing). But this oddly passive, disengaged stance is becoming increasingly common – I’d indeed say it characterises the majority of the student body in my department. My students almost seem to take the suggestion that they might have to study to get a degree as an affront. And they display, if not contempt, then a profound indifference to the educational experience. It is as though they exist at a level of psychic distance from their learning: it is something that is just supposed to happen, somehow, without them ever really having to do anything about it.

Older people of course have always complained that younger people don’t know anything and are feckless, and it has always been the case that university students don’t study hard enough, especially in their first year. But this level of disengagement is genuinely new. When I first started teaching at university, taking a class was often like traffic control: all of the students would attend, would have prepared by doing the required reading, and would be intellectually engaged – even if they were wrong, they would merrily voice their opinions and offer answers to questions. Fast forward ten years and attendance is abysmal (it isn’t unusual for literally only one or two students out of a class list of ten or twelve to show up to tutorials), students almost never adequately prepare, and the atmosphere in classes is often one of stony silence – like delivering a seminar to a class full of cats, or trees, or a wall on which paint is drying.

It is too easy to say that the lockdowns caused this, although they undoubtedly accelerated a trend – one can’t spend 18 months telling young people that in-person education is basically optional and doesn’t really matter and expect it to have no effect on how much they value the endeavour. It is also much too easy to blame the introduction of tuition fees – you would expect people to work harder for a qualification if they are paying a lot of money for it, and in any case students were paying fees back when I started in 2012 and were perfectly well motivated then. All academics have their own pet theories as to where the problem lies. My own view is not exactly that social media is to blame but rather the fact that, thanks to the development of streaming, young people are now reared by screens to an extent that was never previously possible, and develop a stunted, passive outlook as a consequence (why do anything if you can just turn on Netflix or YouTube and be mindlessly entertained?).

Whatever the cause, it is terrifying to witness first hand just how shallow the lives of so many young people now are, how disengaged they seem not just from learning but from the world around them, and how deep is their apparent lack of personal agency. The idea that it is within their grasp to improve their lives through effort seems to have been squeezed out of them (if they ever knew it to begin with) as though by a vice. This makes me fearful not just about the future of our politics but about the future of our economy and our culture: what happens to a society when its young adults are so disconnected from the exercise of living and so apparently uninterested in being good at things or learning anything of value? It won’t be pretty, that’s for sure.

Conservative commentators and politicians have gravitated towards a vision of universities being ‘in crisis’ due to capture by the Left or the woke. That too is a serious matter but of an order of magnitude less consequence than the vapidity and sloth, and contempt for the pursuit of excellence, which is so starkly in evidence among the student body. This is what we need to begin to grapple with, but I don’t think there is a politician in the land who is capable of even beginning to acknowledge the problem.

Busqueros is a pseudonym.

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Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
3 years ago

I wouldn’t say we are almost back to normal. We’ve made strides but there’s still a lot of ‘keeping safe’ nonsense going on out there.

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Crissylis
Crissylis
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Angel Eco Warrior

If there’s one thing I can’t STAND, it’s being thoughtfully told to “Stay safe!” “Alright!” I want to shout, “I’ll stay safe. I’ll avoid using the car, I won’t cross the road, I’ll never change a plug again. I’ll keep out of the garden, and wear leather gauntlets when I chop onions. I’ll seal myself in the house and never answer the door. That’ll keep me safe!”

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
3 years ago
Reply to  Crissylis

The reply to that is “Stay Sane”

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

Our then 5 year old grandson would reply, with originality: “Stay stupid!”

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JXB
JXB
3 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

I think ‘get sane’ is more appropriate.

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Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Crissylis

Leather gauntlets? I think you’re being a bit reckless there, if you really want to stay safe mail gauntlets are de rigueur.

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Epi
Epi
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

😂😂😂

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  Crissylis

That’s how I feel too. I want to screech back “Ok, I’ll give up jumping out of aeroplanes then!”….or similar.

Safe. A small, unassuming word, but after the past 2 years, I’ve come to hate it with a passion.

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marebobowl
marebobowl
3 years ago
Reply to  Crissylis

😂😂😂😂😂

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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago
Reply to  Crissylis

On sealing the house; we first get the ecomentalists saying we *must* seal our houses to achieve high thermal performance to stop heated air escaping, then we get the govt saying we *must* keep windows wide open in winter to allow fresh air circulation to allow the ‘virus’ (carries by air) to escape! You really can’t make this rubbish up, it takes a certain grade of stupidity to achieve it, which we somehow elected!

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  SimCS

Makes you pine for sash windows…..now who was the bright spark who decided they were not “eco”…..and replaced with products which some of which give off toxic cyanide gas when immolated….

And let’s not forget the schtick to isolate – away from contact with “others” – indoors and only go out for an hour a day “exercise” – all that during a winter period with seasonal viruses proliferating amongst people herded together for hours at a time……and then allowed to congregate in supermarkets…..

The sight of Whitty spouting about “public health advice” this week, mandating his advice for mask wearing to continue ( flashback to 2020 when he, and other Govt advisers, said the exact opposite ) – and still NO mention of the benefits of adequate vits and minerals as prophylactics to boost one’s immune system.

He and his colleagues are far far beyond the point where resignation is going to save the self induced trashing of their alleged professional reputations?

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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago
Reply to  Crissylis

Why not just wear a hazmat suit 24*7 and have done with it.

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Epi
Epi
3 years ago
Reply to  SimCS

Nah stay indoors for the rest of your life and poop yourself whenever the letterbox rattles.

Last edited 3 years ago by Epi
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Annie
Annie
3 years ago

SODDING UK IS NOT ‘FREE’. ENGLAND IS ‘FREE’. THE COVVILUNATIC FRINGES ARE ENSLAVED AND MUZZLED. WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET THIS FACT OVER TO YOU?

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lordsnooty
lordsnooty
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

In Wales that is largely due to tribal Labour voters in “the valleys”. It can only be a while before north Wales unchains itself from the dirt poor regions of south Wales and rejoins the north West of England.

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JXB
JXB
3 years ago
Reply to  lordsnooty

The long, close association with sheep – learned characteristics from example.

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Aleajactaest
Aleajactaest
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Stop shouting Annie, we can hear you….

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PoshPanic
PoshPanic
3 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

To be fair, 2 years of this shit, a bit of shouting is to be excused

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marebobowl
marebobowl
3 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

😂😂

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

Yes, you can, but not the dolts I’m addressing!

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Thank you Annie, for making today another, ‘every day is a school day’.

I had to look up the definition of ‘dolt’.

50-odd years on this planet and I have never heard that expression before.

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  Aletheia of Oceania

Really? Common insult round these parts!

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lorrinet
lorrinet
3 years ago
Reply to  annicx

And around everywhere I’ve lived in Britain!

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

“Dolt” is orientated towards a certain comically militaristic cadre beloved of my youth….goes together with “schweinhund”…..HAHA

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stevie119
stevie119
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

The article above does use “Britain” throughout….

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  stevie119

Worse still. ‘Britain’ includes tbe whole of Ireland.

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Epi
Epi
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I always thought Ireland was part of “The British Isles”? England, Scotland and Wales are Great Britain.

Still I’m sure I’ll be corrected by more knowledgeable people if wrong.

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JXB
JXB
3 years ago
Reply to  Epi

Physical map v Political map. On the former, Ireland is part of the British Isles; on the latter it is un Département d’Outre-mer de France.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Annie, we have to accept the annoying little things the DS has, just like we have to endure the annoying little habits of our partners.

They call the jabs vaccines, positive test results cases, consider all sorts of test and jab requirements at the border ‘back to normal’.

And clearly, for all intents and purposes, England is the UK / Britain and whatever strange little rules they have in regional backwaters like Wales and Scotland aren’t really consequential.

My guess is that they apply certain linguistic economies to make headlines and articles more readable.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

True, a bit like the roadsign “WEAK BRIDGE”: it isn’t weak, it just wasn’t designed to carry 18 wheel Eddie Stobarts. But the sign gets the message across with just two short words.

But it is very important to recognise that Scotland and Wales and NI are in quite a different situation from England, in many important regards. Our Union (such as it ever was) is not a union.

Last edited 3 years ago by Marcus Aurelius knew
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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Not since Blair destroyed it.

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Can’t things be different in different parts of a union? What is the current British political regime if it’s not a union? Do you think it’s a federation? I understand it’s a dog’s breakfast, but not why you hold that it’s not a union. It can be both.

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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

We are a Union, yes, but the people in them are essentially the same, so either a govt response measure works in all or none, and with our close proximity, at the same time. The reality is of course, is that NONE of these governments’ response measures have had any beneficial effect but instead huge negative outcomes across every aspect of society. If each of the Union leaders took personal responsibility for these actions, as they should, they’d all be in jail by now, for life.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Where’s your ‘postcard from abroad’? Have I missed it?

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Much clearer than the sign on the road from Leatherhead to Dorking – “Deceptive Bends”. Any number of motorists went off the road while their poor brains tried to understand wht that meant exactly!!

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

“And clearly, for all intents and purposes, England is the UK / Britain and whatever strange little rules they have in regional backwaters like Wales and Scotland aren’t really consequential.

They chuffing well are for the half a million English living in Nipoleonland.

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Much use of “the UK” to denote Britain is recent in origin and its purpose is to promote the monarchy. The usage is extremely ignorant and if somebody keeps doing it I either ask them why they’ve mentioned the monarchy 10 times in two minutes (cue an open mouth) or I say something like “France – or the Fifth Republic or FR as you’d call it”. On the positive side, it works well as a Moron Self-Identification Device.

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

Er, Great Britain does not include Ireland North or South, UK of Great Britain & N Ireland is what the UK covers. British Isles includes all of Ireland.

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

They’re open mouthed because you’ve revealed your utter ignorance.

The UK is an abbreviation of the name of our state.

Great Britain is the name of the largest island in our archipelago.

Last edited 3 years ago by Nearhorburian
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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

We have family that moved to Aus about 20 years ago and within 12 months we were referred to as ‘the UK’, (‘Back in the UK’, that sort of thing), we kept telling them they were from Sheffield- in ENGLAND- not ‘the UK’ and to stop trying to sound so cosmopolitan. They really didn’t like it.

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JXB
JXB
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

Promote the monarchy? It’s been a monarchy for about 1300 years.

Recent? It goes back to 1603 when James IV of Scotland became James I of England & Ireland when the two kingdoms were joined to be one, but governed separately, the united (small ‘u’) Kingdom of Great Britain, and the Scottish Saltire and St George Cross flags were superimposed to become James’s standard.

in 1707, when the English and Scottish Parliaments were abolished and replaced by the Westminster Parliament, it became the United Kingdom of Great Britain, a single market customs union, monetary union and unitary State with James’s standard adopted as the flag of the new State.

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ChristineJ58
ChristineJ58
3 years ago
Reply to  JXB

It was James VI (not IV, as you’ve claimed) of Scotland who in 1603 became James I of England, actually…

Last edited 3 years ago by ChristineJ58
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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Why have you done about it?

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

ANNIE, SHOUT A LOT LOUDER, THEY CANNOT HEAR YOU YET!!!

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lordsnooty
lordsnooty
3 years ago

Almost back to normal apart from the hoards of mentally ill cancer victims and 5 year NHS queues. yeah, really normal!

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  lordsnooty

I’m going to jump out in defence of the article for a second here.

I agree things are not back to normal by any stretch of the imagination. However the overall point that the script has flipped and the clever ones back in March 2020 are now stuck in a hole and we aren’t is pretty much true.

Yes, we should be 100% back to normal, but heck am I loving the fact that China is now stuck in zero-covid hell and is a constant reminder of the futility of all the mindless measures we copied. The longer it suffers from it’s dogmatic zero-covid approach, the less likely it becomes that we will repeat the mistakes. And that is not a bad thing.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

But is China actually doing that generally, or is it just more theatre performed only when the western media is around? A bit like the videos of people collapsing in the street in 2020.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  lordsnooty

Clock the GBP 28 million worth of Covid 19 “marquees” erected across the ….UK….for CV19 patients who have done what all these worthless people do with medical appointments – they bloody well have not turned up.

Not reported ANYWHERE on the MSM that I can find, but one local to me is being very quietly removed from the Hospital car park (cost 3/4million GBP)….very few folks know about this.. who decided they should be built – the new regime at what was PHE/NHS…?

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Star
Star
3 years ago

“about how Britain has muddled through the past two years and come out the other side more or less unchanged”

Next time, someone should give the guy a true thesis to argue for.
Even better, show him how to go about distinguishing between true ones and false ones.
They could also advise him to check in private how he’s getting on with building up his thinking skills before he considers whether he wants to air his arguments in public.

No mercy for those who take obviously false statements and try to argue in favour of them.

Last edited 3 years ago by Star
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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

Apart from the benighted state of Victoria, in considerable parts of Australia things looked “more or less unchanged” for much of 2020, even considerable parts of 2021. But something terrible was happening, with effects we are going to have to deal with for a long time.

For almost two years, I have been reading in these pages of the damage caused in Britain by government policies. I’ve been reading about mental health effects, lost schooling (not every child can be well educated at home), the enormous numbers of missed medical appointments, the looming cancer cases (genuine, real “cases”).
And that hasn’t changed the lives of countless people?

Maybe some have had a relatively comfortable war. Lucky them. And sneering at “less happier lands” is always entertaining, I suppose.
But this seems delusional.
Who could possibly imagine that there will be no legacy for Britain?
Who, precisely, is being patted on the back and told how well they’ve done?

But never mind, mustn’t grumble? No harm done?

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

Not unchanged for me- still plenty of pathetic, masked hand wringers everywhere I look and there’s not a chance in hell that my attitude to those who basically called me an uncaring Granny killer who should be locked way will return to ‘normal’- I won’t be forgetting or forgiving that any time soon…

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago

My view is, “wait and see.”

I don’t and will not ever again believe a word issuing from an official or government mouthpiece. Until the Coronavirus Act is disposed of in its entirety our “freedom” is conditional and further despotism but one announcement away.

The Online Harms Bill and a new Bill of Rights – neither required nor needed – threaten further loss of freedoms and God forbid the loss of free speech.

My view is still that this is a lull period and a calm before the storm. The whole world has been in Lockstep, Canada, a sister country is under martial law and yet we are to believe we have come through this and ‘relatively unscathed.’

Two years misery, thousands poisoned, no end to the propoganda and we should be thanking the leadership?

We are being softened up for Round 2.

The article is sycophantic BS.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Most are now vaxxed and are likely dead men, women and children who are still walking, if only for a while. Round 2 may not be needed.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Well we know what to do if they start censoring LS don’t we? They won’t be able to hide that. Especially while Toby is appearing on platforms like GB News.

Last edited 3 years ago by Hugh
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Dale
Dale
3 years ago

UK and US Red States among the ‘least bad’ places in the world.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  Dale

The cull has only just started and no one is safe.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Dale

South Dakota never had a lockdown or mask mandate, at least not at state level. Of course most of them are vaxxed, which is a shame.

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago
Reply to  Dale

UK red states ?

Interesting terminology.

Perhaps you’re referring to Quackfordland, (Wales), definitely red, and Nipoleonland, (Scotland), which was last using a yellow moniker, but should really be a rainbow.

Who in their right minds appoints a transgender they/them/their as head of the Scottish rape crisis centre ?

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago

“come out the other side more or less unchanged”

Lol. The Big Lie is intact, mass vaxxing is still going on with terrible results, and I still can’t re-enter my own bloody country without showing my covid status.

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Sentient Seaweed
Sentient Seaweed
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Absolutely spot on, Julian

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Agreed, Julian.

But a bit of an anecdote, on Saturday evening we re-entered England (Bournemouth airport) after 4 nights in Lisbon. The only thing UK Border Force was checking was passports. Didn’t ask about stupid PLF, stupid negative tests, nothing.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

I understand from others than airlines check them before you board, at least sometimes. Arriving back to the UK and telling the border force to get stuffed is one thing (they can’t legally stop you entering your own country) but the airline could easily refuse to let you board, then you’re stuffed. So you still need to fill in the PLF and book a test, even if you don’t take it, unless you want to risk it.

But glad you got to Lisbon and back, hope it was a good trip!

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Waiting for the details…

Last edited 3 years ago by Emerald Fox
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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

But you had to buy PCR tests before your return to the UK? And pre-purchase PCR tests to be taken within 2 days of arrival. You seem to have forgotten the details about those… from which companies, how much did they cost, etc.

(edit – see you are going to provide us with full details later, look forward to reading all about it)

Last edited 3 years ago by Emerald Fox
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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago

“Compared with all of this madness, Britain can be said have arrived at a rather sensible position – and, indeed, to have been surprisingly wisely governed.”

I think we have been terribly governed – but actually compared to others, I agree we have done well.

I wont forget or forgive any lockdowns or mask waring – or the rest of the nonsense – but we never pursued these aberrations with as much vigour as others and for that I am slightly grateful.

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The old bat
The old bat
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Was this article penned by Boris in an idle moment on the loo?

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

It’s a bit like being glad you only lost one million pounds instead of ten- not as bad, but still bloody awful!

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago

As I was reading this piece I started to hear the song ‘follow, follow, follow, follow, follow the yellow brick road’, in my head, very odd?

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago

Well blow me…Toby and Laura Dodworth’s complaint to Ofcom has been rejected on the highly unscientific grounds that “the science” around AGW is “settled.”

I think this confirms my earlier post here very neatly.

Bullshit Dr McGrogan.

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

So much for free speech and science, sorry- ‘The Science’. I complained years ago about my kids being subjected to the ridiculous Al Gore slide show uncritically- how is that teaching them to think I asked, I was told that as it was ‘settled’ they needed to move on to what needed to be done, so absolutely no debate about what was happening or how. I wonder if how we came to be hoodwinked by this hysteria will be taught in future history lessons?

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago

True in parts, I suppose. But British leadership was also a failure: no leader had the guts not to panic or cease coercing.

Things have ended randomly, by illogical arbitrary fiat, not because the leaders got it right. In fact there is no reason why we’re not still being brainwashed or forced to take more jabs. They simply decided to end it for their own convenience. For now.

Last edited 3 years ago by BS665
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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago

It is just a pause, and the screws on freedom will continue to turn.

Last edited 3 years ago by PhantomOfLiberty
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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

That’s what concerns me, what next? I wouldn’t be surprised if Bunter and co say we need Covid Passports as the rest of the world has them and we need to align ourselves with them.

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

Indeed

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

What next are the the On-line Harms Bill and the Bill of Rights

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

Should read, ‘In-line Harms Bill and the Bill of Withdrawn Rights.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

Someone needs to remind them that we already have one from 1689

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

THAT is the big question going forward.

How much of the madness is going to come screaming back the moment the narcissistic NHS starts sounding the alarm.

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Exactly. We should remember that this whole sh*tshow came about to protect, not people, but that chaotic and dysfunctional organisation called “OurNHS”

We were a second thought.

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago

“As of this week, we are, essentially, free – the real free, the old free.”

DS, where do you find these idiots ? And a ‘Dr.’ and Associate Professor at that ???

The ‘old free’ has disappeared forever.

Has Dr. David McGrogan not seen the Draconian legislation that has been brought in during this manufactured emergency ?

Is he not aware that the MSM has been hijacked, and bought ?

That civil liberties are being eroded at a horrifying rate ?

That the whole scamdemic was just that…a scam ?

Tests that aren’t diagnostic tools, asymptomatic transmission, average age of covid death higher than average age of UK mortality, mandatory experimental jabs, indemnity for big pharma, and, the really telling stat that they cannot hide…no excess mortality spikes in either 2020, nor 2021.

How many more chuffing red flags does one need to see the truth ???

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Aletheia of Oceania

👍 👍

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  Aletheia of Oceania

Is he not aware that the MSM has been hijacked, and bought ?

Is that a change from 2020 or have the scales dropped from our eyes and we are finally seeing the media and the rest of our treasured institutions as the putrid, corrupt entities they have always been?

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Bingo- been like this for as long as I can remember. I haven’t bought or read a paper in over 20 years other than the odd glance at the sports results. As for voting- for what? We’ve voted against the left in general 5 times since 2010- and you could argue that the last time we voted for a truly left wing government was 1974, yet we are being ruled by them on a microscopic level.

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ChristineJ58
ChristineJ58
3 years ago
Reply to  annicx

Yes, I’ve not bought a newspaper in 35+ years, and haven’t watched the MSM for 35+ years, either. Cancelled TV licence last year, as hardly ever watched the thing.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  Aletheia of Oceania

Yup all mentioned in the Court of Public Opinion that will hopefully be used one day. They are just gathering evidence right now for the record.

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Aleajactaest
Aleajactaest
3 years ago

Almost, but not quite.

Just travelling back from a trip to and from Oslo.

Outbound, idiot-proof and pre Mar 20.

Return…well, LHR was its usual clusterfuck and still needed some additional things that weren’t just UK passports but could be “manufactured”

Muzzloids everywhere but a good % of uncovered.

Norway was like nothing had happened.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

There were still plenty of panzers in Germany in 1945, but many lacked fuel. We’re watching the absurdity slowly implode like a souffle.

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Aleajactaest
Aleajactaest
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

The Norwegians don’t like Ze Germans, I learned that quickly and painfully my first trip here.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

No sane person likes Nazis. But I can live happily enough with ordinary Germans.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

What is the “ordinary German” these days?

Come to think of it, what is the “ordinary Brit”?

The last two years have taught me beyond all doubt that “ordinary” is but skin deep. Aliens lie beneath.

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Lizard aliens ?

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Rishi Sunak is British.
“Rishi Sunak was born on 12 May 1980 in Southampton, Hampshire”

Sajid Javid is also British – born in Rochdale.

Just ‘ordinary Brits’.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

We were going to visit Norway last week, but changed plan the day before. We just fancied warmth and light, so flew instead to Lisbon.

“Postcard from Lisbon” will be submitted to DS shortly!

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Innocent bystander
Innocent bystander
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

28 degrees in Lisbon today and du Soleil

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

I went to Norway as a kid in the 80s….Home of Black Metal and church burning.

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PoshPanic
PoshPanic
3 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

Must’ve been tempting to stay a little longer

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Aleajactaest
Aleajactaest
3 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

not at £15 pint

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

Should have done what all Norwegians who are not members of the Temperance League do – drive to Sweden and stock up – ( and that from a Norwegian national I spoke with pre CV19 living in the Hardanger area of Norway, Winter 2017/18, middle of beautiful boondocks) – and a fair old trek even in Summer…..

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A Sceptic
A Sceptic
3 years ago

While I agree that this country is not the worst, I profoundly disagree on “almost back to normal”. Examples are:

  • Please wear a mask signs on shop doors
  • Pensioners so terrified they will not leave the house and if they do they scurry along in masks
  • Hand sanitiser everywhere
  • Masks and “measures” still very much in evidence in local government, NGOs and health
  • Although the self isolation rules have gone, government guidance to business has not changed at all
  • No change in access to health care or similar services

That’s a long way from almost back to normal.

This evening I got something from the environment agency publicising a “drop in” event for residents (we’re in a flood area) but you can’t drop in at all, you have to book a 20 min slot online and then turn up at the appointed time.

Mental.

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The old bat
The old bat
3 years ago
Reply to  A Sceptic

Re health care – tried to make a face to face appointment at our surgery yesterday. Face to face is essential to me for examination purposes. Nothing doing! I cannot make an appointment, in that, I am not allowed to. If I phone next week they might consider my request. Really! Would you Adam and Eve it!
I have now made an appointment with a private gp instead. £95 for 30 minutes. Shall I send the bill to my local health authority?

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

Why not try it?
And send a copy to your MP.

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The old bat
The old bat
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

That’s a good idea. I will do. I like stirring the sh1t!

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Or ask for a rebate of NI.

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pjar
pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

Please tell us that the ‘Private’ GP is the same one you normally see… too frightened to see you without the safety net of money.

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John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

Yes, send the bill to them.
Enforce in the county court if unpaid within 30 days (or 14 days if you choose)!

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

I honestly think they just fob us off in the hope we’ll either; 1- go away, get fed up of trying and look it up on the internet, 2- get better by accident, 3- drop dead before they have to see us, thus saving a lot of time and money. A win-win-win really.

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

Good luck with that. I sent bills for my urgent but not available private treatment to the UK PM, whose minion wrote back denying responsibility for “unfortunately a regional assembly matter”. The first minister of the regional assembly delegated their head of cancer strategy to respond, and in a letter littered with mistakes (28, which I also sent them an invoice for counting) including getting my postal address wrong, the respondent also told me that the NHS couldn’t possibly fund my treatment. But they helpfully included a load of links to more government propaganda. The head of my NHS Trust (that word always makes me laugh when used unironically) wrote back at the second time of asking using largely the same transparently insincere word salad and links as the civil servant had, although with no mistakes, claiming to have investigated my case, when all she did was regurgitate the facts that I had already provided, twice. I had to write to them again last week as they now keep sending me appointments for the consultation that I needed last year. I’m considering taking out a case under the small claims court, but that will cost more money. The punishment for dissenting is the process.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

What do people expect? Still, keep on ‘writing’ to your MPs if it makes you feel like you have ‘done something’.
They really care not a jot for you.
It’s all howling at the Moon.

By now the Government knows there is no real resistance to their scheming, and they can do whatever they fancy. Until the supply of face masks, hand sanitiser and LF and PCR tests is thoroughly smashed, the show will go on.. and on.. and on.

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

What do people expect? They expect to get their required treatment that they have paid for in advance with a lifetime of general taxation and national insurance, when they need it, where they need it. What’s your point?

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  A Sceptic

I profoundly disagree on “almost back to normal”. 

Ditto for me.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago

Email just received from ‘Reclaim the Net’

World Economic Forum pushes digital ID system that will determine access to services.

Including:

online behaviour, purchase history, network usage, credit history, biometrics, names, national identity numbers, medical history, travel history, social accounts, e-government accounts, bank accounts, energy usage, health stats, education and more.

In other words a slave society.

McGrogan, you are an idiot and a fool.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

An educated idiot and fool.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Aren’t you supposed to be composing that ‘postcard from Portugal’?

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ElSabio
ElSabio
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

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primesinister
primesinister
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Thanks for that I’ve just been to RtN plenty good reads.

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
3 years ago

Not a prayer that we’re anything like “normal”. Enduring legacies :-

  1. The bastard Coronavirus Act 2020. Brought in because of the “medical emergency”. Basically means a few ministers can do whatever, whenever they want. They’ve smelt the power, they ain’t going to let go easily.
  2. MSM being nothing more than a propaganda machine.
  3. The nudge unit, 77th Brigade.
  4. The likely further dominance of medicine by bigpharma – look forward to a plethora of new and miraculous cures for every “disease” they wish for/invent and, to those of us who think, having to live with the threat of compulsory jabs.
  5. A good chunk of the populace continuing to live in fear, courtesy of 2 and 3 above.
  6. By virtue of 5, distrust, hatred, disdain will be heaped upon the refuseniks.
  7. Green Passports/ digital ID.

So, yeah, back to normal it is then.

I prophesy that autoimmune diseases will rocket, entirely due to mrna jabs. – and bigpharma will escape proper scrutiny as before.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

True, but didn’t covidianism reveal that propaganda and coercion have never ceased in the UK since World War Two, rather than that covidianism established a new pattern for the future?

Pre-2020, we were on ‘soft’ propaganda – all but invisible to many (cf. anti-Terror discourse, spy and investigator TV series, etc.) In 2020-2021 it was blatant. But in the future – possibly a hybrid, possibly back to ‘normal’, or episodes of overt manipulation again.

The point is, we’ve seen that Reality ain’t what they say it is.

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PoshPanic
PoshPanic
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

The Ministry of Propaganda have returned from the war years and have issued another update on Living with Covid

https://youtu.be/QTRCqnBn3LQ

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Personally, I think that our institutions have always been dodgy as. What has changed is that whereas once our society expected the state to stay out of our lives it now seems happy, even demands that it regulates every aspect of our lives – for our own benefit and safety.

We just seem to be happy with a more totalitarian state. And of course the state is only too happy to comply.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

The change to a digital society ultimately means de facto rise in totalitarian tendencies. The Borg may not be too far off. It’s the materialist and sciencist fallacy, with plain evil and greed thrown in as guiding lights.

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I would welcome Seven of Nine into my life any day of the week !

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago
Reply to  Aletheia of Oceania

Cyborgs have their uses 😉😂

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Because the alternative is personal responsibility – and that truly terrifies most people.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

“I prophesy that autoimmune diseases will rocket, entirely due to mrna jabs. – and bigpharma will escape proper scrutiny as before.”

Read Robert Kennedy Jnr – for just one example – in the “Real…..” – he demonstrates that this has already happened since the “Era of Vaccines” started post WWII…

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
3 years ago
Reply to  186NO

True, I should have qualified by saying to rocket even more.
I have Kennedy’s book.
For further proof of vaccine damage I would recommend

http://vaccinepapers.org/

All evidence based research.

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Deborah T
Deborah T
3 years ago

It’s a very optimistic article…it’s certainly the case that, at present, England would seem to be one of the ‘least worse’ places to live. But I can’t get too gung-ho about our position. As…I think those behind this will try it again. And soon. I do think this brief respite must be something to do with Tory MPs, and the (small) kickback from Telegraph, Spectator etc. I dread to think what would happen if Starmer got in. And France, Italy, Austria, Canada.. all make me feel nervous. Jury’s out for me.

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Sentient Seaweed
Sentient Seaweed
3 years ago
Reply to  Deborah T

Optimistic? It’s outright panglossian.

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago
Reply to  Deborah T

“Jury’s out for me.”

You’ll be lucky if juries still exist by 2030 – remember Nipoleon tried banning them at the beginning of the scamdemic ?

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Amtrup
Amtrup
3 years ago
Reply to  Aletheia of Oceania

I remember reading that they suspended the process of trial by jury ( somewhere in the UK, all of it, or just part of it? ) at some point during the first lockdown, and referred everything to magistrates/judges etc. Has normal jury service been resumed again?

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RTSC
RTSC
3 years ago

“The continuing presence of sceptical voices in our governing party has largely meant we’ve felt no need to take our campaign to the streets.”

The writer obviously missed the monthly mass demonstrations in central London – with anything up to 100,000 attending – as well as the other ones around the country.

This country will NEVER “go back to normal.” For a start, we now know that the Government can and will remove our Civil Liberties for anything up to two years whenever it feels it can get away with it.

We also know that the Nuremberg Convention means nothing to either the Government or most of the medical professions.

And we also know that the Government believes it is both legal and appropriate to use an evil PsyOps campaign against its own people – deliberately damaging the mental health of millions.

Normal …..my ar$e.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  RTSC

Many more than 100,000. The march at the end of April 2021 in London was definitely over 500,000.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Who was counting, and how?
Anyway – what was the result? Javid and SAGE are still firmly in control. I think it was more a matter of everybody just having a day out in London, meeting friends, going for coffee and cake, and catching the 5pm train home.

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  RTSC

Which sceptical voices were they then? I must’ve blinked and missed that. I know a few were against it, but what did they really do? Most of them think we need more protection form such harms as ‘differing opinions’, (i.e. misinformation).

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loopDloop
loopDloop
3 years ago

Oh, Associate Professor is it. Very impressive. It’s the intellectual class who have been the biggest let down by far in this insanity. So Ass.Prof. Doofus rolls up now, what is it February 2022, and delivers this kind of wobbly half-baked nonsense. ‘Surprisingly wisely governed’, my ass. They can’t see the wood for their own egos the Associate Professors. Of course China has turned into a bio-security nightmare state. That was the plan. And it’s the same plan for us, just with a little local variation thrown in to account for cultural differences. Let me help you, Associate Professor. Here are the young adults my daughter goes to university with, the cream of the intelligent youth, supposedly. They are obsessed with wearing masks and getting tests and believing completely ridiculous things about the so-called virus. And these are the bright ones. Supposedly. People’s minds have been turned to mush through fear and propaganda. People have been rolling up their sleeves by the million to take an untested gene therapy with no idea what is in it, no idea of their risk profile, no idea of why they are even doing it except to ‘protect others’ in some insane way. A rather sensible position? This is sensible now? Nothing’s changed? Everything has changed. This is not how it used to be. Anyway, thanks for the brainy pontification associate professor, brilliant stuff. You think in ten years we will look back fondly? Be sure to check back in in 2032 and let us know how that turned out.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago

I enjoyed this article, it was positive and don’t want to give Dr McGrogan a hard time. What he says is to some extent true; We have not had to suffer the extremes of, for instance, blue states, Australia or most of Western Europe despite adopting the same nonsense orthodoxies and destructive policies of Covid-19. This writer feels that this is down to ‘national character’ but I’m not so sure. I’ve spent the last six months trying to work out why the UK seemed to diverge from the road to all out tyranny. At times I’ve wondered whether this is simply because individual countries did what was necessary in their own context to achieve compliance and vaccine uptake and in the UK, only a nudge was required to get us in line. I still believe this is first and foremost an economic crisis. And I’m increasingly inclined to believe Prof Denis Rancourt’s assertion that Covid-19 is a war measure, intended to train populations to follow orders and ensure societal compliance ahead of an economic (and possibly biological) war with China (and Russia). I know the US and Eurozone are completely bankrupt; maybe the effects of what’s to come will be harsher in those areas? Perhaps the UK establishment, in leaving Europe, believe they can forge an independent path through the crisis that won’t be as disastrous as in other places? With this pivot to fake war and all attendant economic chaos, I think we’re about to find out…

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Let’s be fair. We didn’t have gas chambers and …. ???????

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Britain was the first country to introduce concentration camps during the Second Boer War.

https://twitter.com/DerekLambe/status/1238368643467161600

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Sentient Seaweed
Sentient Seaweed
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Exactly. Every government employed whichever techniques were appropriate to the culture of the people of the country to achieve compliance.

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

It’s all been a test, national tests, or proving grounds, if you like.

Testing the temperature of the water, or how far individual populations can be coerced and pushed.

And whilst all of this has been ongoing, the infrastructure for digital IDs has been implemented, (that’s where the £30+ billion Test & Trace budget went), civil liberties have been eroded, and legislation has been put in place to allow governments to proclaim their own ’emergencies’, at a whim, and curtail mass public demonstrations.

This bit of legislation seems to have gone unnoticed by most people – Covert Human Intelligence Sources (Criminal Conduct) Bill;
“The Bill would amend Part II of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act and allow public bodies to authorise covert human intelligence sources (“CHIS”) to engage in criminal activities – including rape, murder and torture – with impunity.”

No person, agency, nor government body should be above the law.

So, Professor, Dr., or whatever your title is, you are profoundly wrong in your assertion that, “As of this week, we are, essentially, free – the real free, the old free.”

In fact, it’s the complete opposite.

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  Aletheia of Oceania

“No person, agency, nor any government body should be above the law”. Maybe, but if you review the proposed Human Rights Act Reform, you will see that Parliamentarians consider that they are higher up the pecking order than anything else in the law. In effect, they want to be at the top of the tree.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Debt is the straw “weight” that will bring down the House of Cards when the market “herd” mentality reaches the point where the “dare” of continuing to “participate” aka buy and sell becomes too scary – who is going to blink first, who will “cash out” first? The post apocalyptic crash will then be explained by “experts” pointing out all the very obvious factors that made the “market” unsustainable – which are ignored until……repeat.

Where would you put your “assets” right now?

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Stephanos
Stephanos
3 years ago

It is not true to say ‘we are almost back to normal’. There are millions, literally millions of people who are totally deluded and still think that there was a ‘national emergency’.
This crisis was entirely cooked up by Politicians and Civil Servants for their own ends and will be re-imposed as soon as they dare. And those millions will lap it up. Our Church leaders and the Fourth Estate are deeply complicit in this.
All of the institutions in this country, Government, Education, Universities, the Church and the Press are deeply corrupt and need a complete cleansing. At the moment I see no possibility of that at all.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

One additional problem is that their delusions are very hard to break down. They refuse to talk openly about these matters in reasonable terms and with mutual respect.

I have just resigned from my job after being treated oppressively for my views, despite the fact that the ‘case’ against me was all based on hearsay evidence (brought against me by anonymous ‘monitoring’ (spying, essentially)’. I was labelled as ‘Autistic’ and gaslighted, despite having a PhD in History and being very careful about what I said.

Society will be permanently scarred by covidianism’s legacies.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I’m sorry to learn that.
The labelling has neve been more absurd and vicious.
Find the right label and people lose jobs or reputations (or both) – and any semblance of justice flies out the window.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Are you not “free” now….?

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago

What bollocks. Two wasted years that we’ll never get back! Official child abuse? Continuing lies and obfuscation? Vaccine apartheid? The studied demolition of essential ethical norms and democracy?

Talk about a low bar.

I smell a political apologia.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Smelly and putrid cop out by the bastard political and other elites…

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The old bat
The old bat
3 years ago

Is the author living in a different country? We are not free and people are wearing masks everywhere. Some businesses are determined to try and make us wear them, and I can’t travel abroad with masking up and jumping through government covid regulation hoops (so I no longer travel abroad). This is not normality. This is not freedom. If you think it is, you have been sucessfully brainwashed. Congratulations.

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misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

I nearly gave up reading it. What alternative universe is he living in? Many of you could have written better

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  misslawbore

Yes, an alternate reality 🙁

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

Yes, I know 2 vet’s practices that are still demanding masks, and still making people wait outside before admitting them, as they don’t allow people to use the waiting room anymore. Thank goodness I don’t have a pet, but I have gone past the practices, so this is how I know.
Also dentists who make people wait outside, and wear a mask….unless they are looking at their teeth, presumably.

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misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

My dentist made us stand outside the locked entrance in the street in all weathers. Until recently, you had to knock on the window to get admitted (when permitted). Now the same door is left open for ventilation. That’s progress I guess

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

In May 2020, our beloved dog Mia, suffering from liver faiure, was euthanized on the back seat of our car in the service yard of our local vet, due to ‘covid restrictions’.

Both the vet and assistant were in full haz-chem outfits.

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  Aletheia of Oceania

That’s terrible.

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  X - In Search of Space

Yes, it is. How unkind and uncaring. What is wrong with these people?

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

That’s the case with our vet. I tried ‘humour’, pointing out that my dog refused to wear a mask and I didn’t need an examination so didn’t see why I needed one, but I’m sure you can imagine the reaction.

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Some might, but the dentist I use has more or less stopped doing that for a while – not even the staff on reception, and none of the other patients in the waiting room wore any nappies either, a few weeks ago.

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

Agreed.

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Backlash
Backlash
3 years ago

I despise China and the Chinese, absolutely everything about them. Totalitarian, communist, lying, plagiarising, sneaky, thieving, evil scumbags

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

But at least they’re not Canada, and don’t forget, according to that pillar of wisdom Diane Abbott, Mao did ‘more good then harm’. Mind you, if your plan is to kill millions and subjugate everyone else then I suppose he did.

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

Who down voted this, btw? What is not correct in this post?

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

How many products do you have in your home which have been Made in China? Have you been supporting their regime?

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

EXPOSED: ‘The Great Narrative’ names CAPITALISTS as enemies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCJov5GLuHY

Klaus Schwab, head of the World Economic Forum, has a new addition to his Great Reset series. This one, called ‘The Great Narrative,’ is every bit as terrifying as Schwab’s previous writings. In this clip, Glenn reads from reporter Jordan Schachtel’s break down of what’s inside The Great Narrative — like, for example, how supporters of the free market are deemed ‘enemies’ to Schwab’s ultimate goals. Philosophies like Schwab’s are sweeping the globe, Glenn says, and Canada’s Prime Minister Trudeau just proved global elite can squash YOUR freedoms in the blink of an eye.  Glenn Beck

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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago

But one has to acknowledge that our social fabric has largely remained intact…

If you ignore the non-covid deaths, the wholesale deaths in care homes due to stupid decisions, the suicides, the unvisited dying, the job losses, the bust companies, the national debt that has been racked up, the ridiculous compliance with what should have been laughed off by everyone (masks) and those folk that still haven’t emerged from behind the couch. And that’s not mentioning any consideration of long-term effects of rushed-through vaccines.
‘Intact’ is a strange word to use. It looks pretty tattered to me.

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Yup. In shreds.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Unassailable logic, JD..

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago

I’m still curious to know how blood transfusions and organ donations will be effected by these ‘vaccines’. Hands up if anyone has an answer.

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misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

It’ll be Russian roulette with the odds stacked against the unvaxed

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  misslawbore

Thinking about it further. Blood transfusions and organ donations should interest the (decided to stop at two shots) part vaccinated as well as the unvaccinated. On top of that, anecdotal accounts suggest that the immune systems of the vaccinated may have been degraded, how will a transfusion of unvaccinated blood effect them? I don’t suppose for one minute that any studies have been carried out. Could it be, based on a worst case scenario, that the entire human population on earth now and in the future, may have compromised immune systems? I’m stopping there.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

I will let you know in March …

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TheGreenAcres
TheGreenAcres
3 years ago

Personally I think we would have had a winter lockdown again this year had No.10 not tried to get Owen Patterson off the hook. It was that second by-election in December that changed things. The devastating loss the Tories suffered roused enough backbenchers to make it almost impossible for Boris to impose a Christmas lockdown.

It was the correct decision made for the wrong reasons, but it broke the spell of the SAGE Svengali’s that had been holding him hostage.

And all because Labour refused to let the Tories fudge the OP suspension, huzzah for the law of unintended consequences!

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A Sceptic
A Sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

I agree, Boris would have bottled it again as he has no brain and no spine.

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago

Almost normal, eh?
I think not.
In 2019 we could:-

Travel where we wanted, when we wanted,
Travel without having a “test” or a medical procedure posing as a “vaccine”,
Go shopping without a piece of paper or cloth stuck across our face,
Go in and out of shops without being barked at to sanitise our hands or wear a mask,
Go to the pub when we liked with whom we liked,
Exercise our own discretion about what medical treatments we received, and, crucially, were not discriminated against or harassed for our choices,
See a GP in person – ok, there was often a wait of weeks, but we could see one eventually.

That’s just a few things we had back in 2019. If anyone thinks what we have now is a result of being “wisely governed, I pity them…..but can I interest them in a special online investment scheme?

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ElSabio
ElSabio
3 years ago

…Britain has muddled through the past two years and come out the other side more or less unchanged.

Stopped reading there…

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

Yes, that is a pretty bizarre statement to say the least.

Nice tweet.

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Mr10Percent
Mr10Percent
3 years ago

Note to Editor/Moderator.

It is imperative that the Daily Sceptic start to influence the Public of the UN WHOs intention to formulate a world treaty for the management of pandemic/plandemic response. This would effectively remove the UK governments role (and accountability) in all future responses that will frankly make Sturgeon, Starmer et als “quicker, longer, harder, more” bleats look like kindergarten babble.

New Mandatory vaccinations – with less than 100days development time , no-doubt to quicken the job already started with the Covid jabs could be forced upon us and that is not to mention the big prize….. digital biometric ID.

Other bricks are being placed in the war now… a manufactured war, financial collapse and the resultant energy and food shortages.

This is not over. In fact, it has only just started.

I think this Treaty is due for signing in May 2022, so not long to get the word out.

Share.

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bresbo
bresbo
3 years ago

I suspect that the “freedom” lauded in the article might be an illusion. The Beeb carefully went through the list of restriction removals on the news this evening, and left what to me is the Big Gotcha to the end. Vaxx passes for international travel will remain.

I think this is the Trojan Horse in GB’s (ok England’s) citidel of freedom. All that needs to be done is an international agreement to integrate the Vaxx pass (plus other bio-medical data) into all national passports, and Schaub and Co can call it “Job Done”.

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago
Reply to  bresbo

The article is an illusion.

As is your last sentence. It’s not about international travel, (last time I looked only 25% of Americans had passports), it’s about control of ALL individuals.

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scy
scy
3 years ago

What a proposterous article

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captainbeefheart
captainbeefheart
3 years ago

Britain has muddled through the past two years and come out the other side more or less unchanged

Unchanged????!

Things that probably have not changed, they are just now more obvious to most people:

  1. None of us ever had any “inalienable rights”, they are things that are granted to us by our owners via their government puppets
  2. Laws can arbitrarily be imposed at any time and can change without notice that can restrict basic human freedom whenever the government feels like it. They do not need to make sense or be in any way “scientific”
  3. The government are allowed to lie and use psychological warfare tactics against their own population in order to manipulate their behaviour
  4. No one really gives a shit about the Nuremberg code unless some African nation is violating it
  5. The royal family are dodgy people who may or may not be involved in human trafficking / kiddie fiddling rings or associated with people that are. £12 million to shut someone up you’ve never met is a bargain.

So, nothing has changed really, these things have just become more obvious.

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  captainbeefheart

Add to these the realization that most of humanity lacks humanity.

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago

Weathered the storm – come out the other side more or less unchanged.

As of this week, we are, essentially, free – the real free, the old free.

But one has to acknowledge that our social fabric has largely remained intact, 

Britain can be said … to have been surprisingly wisely governed.

Sure, some places have it worse than us. But, give me a break – all of the above quotes are complete and utter nonsense, and I am left thinking WTF?

Weathered the storm? Don’t venture below decks then – there’s water gushing in from a multitude of damage below the water line.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

Back to normal?

Not by a long shot. 

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Alan P
Alan P
3 years ago

NHS hospitals in England still adhering to masks in communal areas, no visitors to certain wards, hand sanitising, etc.
No more restrictions…. I don’t see that. These measures in the NHS will be here for a long time yet, possibly forever!

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PatrickF
PatrickF
3 years ago

Time for me to put on my “Unvaxxed and proud” t shirt, is it?

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

Some clothes must needs stay in closets.

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ElSabio
ElSabio
3 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

Defence Secretary Ben Wallace has had a Harry Callahan moment.

Ben has practically said to Putin: Go ahead, make my day. 

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Sorry moderator, this needs to be said: Wallace is an utter fookin contemptible TWAT for gobbing off like that.

Gosh, sooo brave. Swoon.

He is a threat to our security. FFS!

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

I feel like laughing, as I’m sure Putin is doing, but it’s not really funny. Presumably Doris and Joan will get really cross now and write a very stern letter to him…

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago

What planet is he living on? We have discovered that we have sleepwalked into being ruled by the most authoritarian regime in modern history. The government waged and continues to wage psychological warfare against the population, paid for by the population, and the emergency powers have not been repealed. As a result, unproven novel therapies and other measures like lockdowns, quarantines, testing, masking, severe limitations on face to face education, injection mandates, injecting children not at risk and most egregious of all the shut down of the NHS for anything other than covid, has been accepted by most of the population as being normal and even desirable, and this idiot who lives in what can only be an academic bubble tells us we’ve muddled through?

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Menckenitis
Menckenitis
3 years ago

The article fails to acknowledge the following bigger picture of which the plandemic is just a part. Anyone who thinks the pandemic, and how governments’ have dealt with it, is deluded. The bigger picture, as confirmed by many sources, includeing Covid-19 – The Great Reset by Klaus Schwab, is along the following lines:

  1. Create whatever distractions are required to facilitate the introduction of central bank digital currencies (pandemic was step1, climate change is step 2)..
  2. Announce an extended ‘bank holiday’ to implement the CBDC (while fleecing as many of the little people of as much as possible).
  3. Announce the GRRRREAT RRRRRESET has arrived.
  4. Apply the CBDC system to, in effect, censor free speech on the internet and elsewhere.
  5. Watch the little people become more obedient than ever, treat them like cattle and starve/eliminate those who won’t comply.

Check out Catherine Austin Fitts, Ernst Wolff and others for a comprehensive explanation of how this is/is meant to play out.

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago

Witnessing the Chinese COVID restrictions (I didn’t watch the Olympics) was like “being forced to look back on the past one has long ago left behind.” Really? It’s just been a matter of weeks since most mandates were relaxed. Many are still with us, and dividing us. The government has seized the power to reimpose them at any time for any made-up reason. I think China presents an eerie, terrifying glimpse into our future. Canada and Australia present an in-between phase.

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  Susan

It’s not just the physical hardware under my fingers at the moment that was made in China.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago

No doubt about it. Compared to most nations, England is a Mecca of freedom. Still, many basic freedoms have been “suspended” and, like America, for four or five months many people basically lived under house arrest … but England has one of the cleanest dirty shirts. That’s something, I guess. England hasn’t gone as mad as most governments and societies.

I’m not going to boycott trips to England, like I am Australia, Austria, Italy, Canada and damn sure China.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

Well, we came late to the party

Kristi Noem, Governor of South Dakota “If you’re still worried about covid, get vaccinated, stay at home, wear a mask: We’re not going to mandate anything”. She has balls and understands the limits that should exist on the powers of governments.

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I’ve said that to lots of folk- if you’re so bloody scared then you can stay at home and wear a mask in your own little lockdown for as long as you want- just leave me out of it!

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  annicx

But they think that they are only “safe” if everyone is “safe”……people wandering about outside, maskless and vaxless, are “dangerous”.

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primesinister
primesinister
3 years ago
Reply to  annicx

Yup.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago

China has done very well. It exported its virus to us, exported its lockdown and mask policies, exported its bloody masks, and has exported its love of censorship and propaganda.

Chinese hegemony is increasing.

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago

Things won’t return to return to normal until the blatant discrimination between ‘unvaccinated’ and ‘vaccinated’ ends. There is no scientific justification for this, it’s coercion pure and simple.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

We aren’t back to normal until they stop poking around nostrils at airports, the news bulletins showing people getting disgusting things jabbed up their noses is horrendous.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago

Cyber Polygon is go 🚨

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Watney
Watney
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

The next pretext for government overreach?

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Lilacblue
Lilacblue
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Salisbury, that was all very odd, very odd indeed.

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  Lilacblue

The official narrative was complete garbage.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

Sure was.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Lilacblue

Somebody knows but is not telling. Anyway, who wants to buy some more ‘vaccines’ from Honest Sajid?

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

What democracy is she referring to exactly?

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  annicx

Yeah…..our democracy….what’s that then?
Considering what politicians of all types have done over the past 2 years ( and counting), they have an absolute blo*dy nerve referring to “our democracy” and “the free world”.

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Old Rosie
Old Rosie
3 years ago

David McGrogan believes “Fleet Street has shown itself to be very much alive during the past two years”.
I think I finally understand the term gaslighting you young people use all the time.

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Star
Star
3 years ago

Nowhere is going “back” to anything. Banks and “government” (civilian wing of the Banderist army) have been cyberattacked in Ukraine; mobile phone networks are said to have been hit by electronic weapons (not the same thing as cyber weapons) in Novorossiya. Meanwhile in Britain, the weather has been a bit blowy and the government has issued solemn warnings against travel, and woe betide any journalist who notices any problem with that.

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eyesee
eyesee
3 years ago

‘Normal China’. Hilarious. –> Rolls on the floor convulsing with laughter

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Waffle
Waffle
3 years ago

Pfizer Withdraws EUA Application for COVID Shot in India After Regulator Asks for Independent Safety Study – https://thevaccinereaction.org/2022/02/pfizer-withdraws-eua-application-for-covid-shot-in-india-after-regulator-asks-for-independent-safety-study/

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago

No. Going back to 2019 is not “back to normal”. That “normal” is what gave rise to the past 2 years of human rights abuses. We cannot and we should not pretend like nothing has happened. The people responsible must be brought to justice.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Too true. Authoritarianism has been growing for decades: just look at all the cameras, regulations and “nudges”. We have got used to safetyism, nannying and extended police powers. That is the “normal” that softened us up for the onslaught of the last two years.

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primesinister
primesinister
3 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Yup.

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godders
godders
3 years ago

Here we go again. Yet another academic who clearly lives in a rarified bubble, unable to see the wood for the trees.
Boris is clearly passing round the sweetie jar in a pathetic attempt to save his political skin. But nothing can excuse him, his Cabinet chums and their so-caled expert advisers for the lasting damage their disastrous shamdemic policies have caused our nation.
We’re bankrupt to the tune of trillions, divided as never before and reeling from a raft of tyrannical legislation still being rolled out to permanently curb our already trampled rights and freedoms.Or hasn’t this professor of law heard about the egregious Online Harms Bill and new Bill of Rights?
Assumedly he also somehow managed to miss the nursing homes genocide and is blind to the countless other lives – including those of children – lost or blighted as a result of the government’s love affair with Big Pharma’s latest batch of venomous snake oil.
But even he must know we will never have no chance of ever “getting back to normal” until the Coronavirus Act is repealed, along with the last vestiges of all the rules and regulations inflicted upon us as part of the government’s power-grabbing Great Covid Con.
Don’t hold your breath, professor.

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  godders

He should take time to dissect the Human Rights Act Reform bill before the 8th March, and so should anyone who is capable of commenting on it via the consultation. I’m drafting some comments on it, but the overall impression is that they are concerned about where they are in the pecking order, and adopting a self-defensive approach, potentially contrary to the idea of Human Rights for many people.

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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago

Things aren’t ‘nearly back to normal’.
Millions of people have been poisoned, our civil liberties/basic human rights have been shown to be illusory and the nation is financially wrecked.

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KarenE
KarenE
3 years ago

Gracious, I don’t recognise the world being described here, to be honest.
i hope the writer is not as complacent as he sounds.
Where I live, by not wearing a mask I am still a minority in supermarkets and other shops. There are at least two locally that refuse entry if you don’t mask up – no exceptions. Hairdressers and barbers wear masks. Most people on the shopping streets are masked. The hand gel stuff is ubiquitous everywhere, people studiously disinfect and wipe down their trolleys at Tesco. Masked people retreat in alarm when they think I am approaching with my trolley too close to theirs. Young people walk to school in black masks. Joggers and cyclists usually wear masks and goggles.
Everyone I know (admittedly not a huge sample of people) has utterly lost confidence in GPs and the NHS more generally and in different degrees are furious with them. Nobody has a good word to say about the Government. There is widespread fury or despair about the perception of corruption in public life.
Those of us not vaccinated are, in practical terms, not free to leave the country and visit another one. So we are not free.
I was reading in the paper the view that Putin must be resisted by the “free world” and wondered where the journalist was referring to.

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  KarenE

Yes, I’m wondering which world that is. Perhaps it’s Canada.

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Epi
Epi
3 years ago
Reply to  KarenE

Certainly Mr Putin seems relatively sane compared to other “so called” free world leaders. Notice the word relatively.

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JohnnyDollar
JohnnyDollar
3 years ago

Normal ? They’re still injecting children at school !! And you can not travel to almost any county unless you’ve been injected !

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maccone
maccone
3 years ago

No, no no, and again no! We are decidedly not back to ‘normal’, and will never be until the Coronavirus Act is repealed. Masks are always the first and last signs of the current status, and I still see many misguided souls wandering around OUTSIDE with them on. They need to be properly banned. Sainsbury’s in my town is still a cathedral of virtue signalling by mask (but Aldi is not), I still have to wait masked up outside the Dentist’s before being let in, and I’m still waiting to be allowed to watch a concert at the RNCM (Music College) in Manchester without a mask. Testing is rife, and LFT kits are being stockpiled. Still plenty of meat then for the DS to get its eager teeth into!

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Epi
Epi
3 years ago
Reply to  maccone

I agree. Don’t worry about masks in the dentist or anywhere. Just say your medically exempt if asked, which I never have been.

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Epi
Epi
3 years ago

“The continuing presence of sceptical voices in our governing party has largely meant we’ve felt no need to take our campaign to the streets.”

Er… excuse me but I think you’ll find between half a million and a million people would like to disagree with you on that front. And you’d be surprised to hear I’m one of them.

I don’t know where you’ve been for the past 18 months or so but at least once a month (sometimes more) I’ve been walking the streets of London and my home town, standing outside the Houses of Parliament and Downing Street with thousands of others protesting against not just stupid draconian rules but also tyrannical mandatory experimental “vaccines”.

This has gone very largely unreported by ALL the MSM including your precious Telegraph.

On the contrary I think together with our Police, the Church, Politicians, School Teachers and GPs the MSM has simply been a disgrace and have failed to carry out their job properly. All they have done is spout government propaganda and death porn. Disgusting.

Frankly I’m appalled and so should you be.

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Ruth Learner
Ruth Learner
3 years ago

This guy’s living in la la land – the UK is at the very heart of a global narrative and bio surveillance project which has used the excuse of a ‘pandemic’ to shift to a different economic model – Why? Because without a ‘great reset’ – they would have to face over 8 trillion pounds of debt – mostly in pension funds. Ie if they don’t disrupt the current system and introduce a digitised social credit system (so they have full control over your lives and funds), you will not get your pension and then you will lynch the nearest politician. NOTHING is the same and unless you wake up to it – you are dead slaves walking. Or maybe you are sn elite psycopath who is aok with this ‘new world’ transhumanist technocracy…

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mojo
mojo
3 years ago

We are led to believe that the country is almost back to normal. Another clever piece of gaslighting.

How can we be back to normal when SMEs have been closed. When families have cruelly been kept from loved ones, now dead. When half the population is now injected with goodness what. When freedoms have been taken from us and our Human Rights laws are being reformed to include the banning of peaceful protest and the ‘harms bill’ which means no disagreement with those in charge, and the looming of a social (complete control) credit system.

How can we be back to normal when so many families/communities are now broken and divided and people are in unprecedented states of depression and loneliness.

Once again those wealthy public sector and metropolitan elites with their gated houses and large gardens have not been affected by this steal of our wealth and our freedoms. They quite like not getting on those dirty trains to London when they can work very successfully from home.

In the meantime the majority of the country who actually need to leave home in order to work are devastated. Many small businesses have gone to the wall because they have to create twice as much money to pay for lost business and their furlough LOANS.

In my opinion we had an amazing opportunity when we voted for Brexit to change this country into a powerhouse of jobs, lean government, decent health care and updated infrastructure by leaving the stultifying federal/socialist EU. That opportunity has been squandered by a very selfish, greedy and narcissistic elite who never cared for this country or the future of its citizens. We can still salvage the seeds from their mess as long as we ignore them and create small individual communities with new teaching habits, new holistic health care and most of all new ideas away from the Globalist mantra of destabilise, destroy and control.

We do not need to create problems in order to solve them, in order to make the few at the very top rich. We need to create opportunities for our people and we need to encourage self confidence in order to form strong relationships and communities that can provide a basis for future ideas, manufacturing and growth.

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Epi
Epi
3 years ago
Reply to  mojo

Hear hear!!!

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bowlsman
bowlsman
3 years ago

I basically disagree. Until the “mask” is banned the mass psychosis won’t start to go away.
And anyway the last 2 years will be as nothing compared to the problems we have coming now Putin has started his invasion.
Just wait and see what happens when he turns the gas off. Fuel has this morning started to go up in price.
The eco loons will be the only ones celebrating.

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marebobowl
marebobowl
3 years ago
  • Sadly despite the number of triple jabbed contracting and transmitting covid, Britain hangs onto its discriminatory practices against the unvaxxed. Until these are removed, Britain is unwisely governed and continues to make insensible decisions
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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  marebobowl

Look at the politicians running the UK – half of them aren’t ‘native British’. Just because you were born in a stable does not make you a horse.

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Less government
Less government
3 years ago

Giving the Government way to much slack here. Lets be honest, this was a globally organised, planned and orchestrated, fabricated medical crisis using a man made bio weapon, with several objectives.
Control, transfer of wealth, health abuse, among them. The WEF agenda is being followed.

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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago

“apart from the odd mask here or there in the U.K.”!! Really?? Dr. McGrogan needs to get out more, they’re still everywhere, as a result of the unnecessary extreme fear instilled into the UK population by the UK government, parliament, SAGE, institutions, unions and the medical professionals who really should read up on ‘the science’, and know better.

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TheBigman
TheBigman
3 years ago

“more or less unchanged”

I spose the ignoring of masked children and adults who can’t give it up. The fear people feel and the fact we have the basis for a social credit score system emerging.
Scotland pursuing permanent power transfer.

Aye, we are more or less unchanged right enough.

Who believes this. This is how these things remain, take away peoples fight. Until freedom reigns the fight is never over.

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enlighteneduk
enlighteneduk
3 years ago

The author clearly hasn’t been to S Devon. Far more people still wearing masks than not wearing them. Two people drove past my rural farm last week, both masked in the car! I don’t see our nearby town of Totnes any different to during lockdown. The people are brainwashed forever.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  enlighteneduk

But Totnes has always been a rule unto itself; certainly as viewed from East Devon!

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JXB
JXB
3 years ago

‘Chinese had identified a dangerous virus and immediately locked down ‘hard and early’ to stop the spread. ‘

And so successfully that two years later the same restrictions are in place ‘to stop the spread’. Every long march starts with the first fortnight – to misquote Mao.

Question for all those ‘experts’, the Commentariat, politicians and members of the chattering classes who have insisted all along the success of restrictions and vaccinations, if so successful why did they have to be continued for so long and even increased and why, as some clamour, should we still have them? Just how long to you have to take a medicine with no respite before you realise it isn’t working?

Clear evidence shows that, not only are the pseudo-vaccines not effective at preventing disease or stopping the spread, but those who were boosted were more like to get the Omicron infection than the two or one dosed individuals, and far more vaccinated getting it than unvaccinated.

Yet… more vaccinations are being promoted, now perhaps every Autumn along with the doesn’t work ‘flu jab.

Serious question: are these people mentally ill?

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lorrinet
lorrinet
3 years ago

Normal? If I go to my village shop I’ll more than likely be the only person there without a mask. Even in town, supermarket shoppers are still over 50% covered. I don’t consider that even approaching normality, and it puts me off going into town because I feel so angry seeing so many masks, especially on the young. It seems as if half the population has been hit with the stupid stick

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vote-for-nobody
3 years ago
Reply to  lorrinet

Agreed. I notice it’s more prevalent in the south (in Ledbury are where I spend some time) than back up in north Notts, where I live. The percentage drops to 15~20% covered.

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vote-for-nobody
3 years ago

For all his good work over the past couple of years (and beyond – FSU), Toby can get quite tiresome on his forgiving nature towards the new paradigm we now live in. One would expect it from the legacy media but not from Tobes (sorry if too familiar – comes from listening to London Calling – full disclosure, Team Dellingpole!). Except in reality I would expect it from Toby. This is the man who said he might consider the vaccine if it meant him being able to go to QPR games! Or that there would be a number that he’d accept to bribe him to take it.And I suspect he would’ve reconsidered his current position if his daughter had wanted him to accompany him to the USA, instead of Mexico.
We are not ‘returned to normal’. We have not attained our previous (already restricted) levels of freedom. Masks are still prevalent. Passports (digital ID’s) are still around. The NHS continues it’s propaganda campaign. Vaccines are still being encouraged onto younger and younger age groups. Our movements are still restricted to some countries. We now live under an even greater crippling debt burden. And it is only by luck that we aren’t made to endure the ongoing draconian policies that are still affecting large swathes of humankind – both closer and further away from home.
I really do hate ‘throwing shade’ over Toby’s achievments. If it wasn’t for him and his assembled team we wouldn’t be writing here now. Thank you for helping to keep us sane over the past 2 years.
But the war is not over. People have been further programmed to accept a Chinese state model and their appetite for resistance tested. Most people have at the very least gone-along to get-along. I would respectfully suggest Toby (in his small way) vaguely fits into that category.
But still, love and peace, Team Sceptics :o)

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vote-for-nobody
3 years ago
Reply to  vote-for-nobody

I forgot to mention increased censorship as one of ongoing artifacts that has taken root also.
Just listened to Dellingpole on The Tom Woods show – Good episode. I always think he pales a bit when faced with the solid nature of Toby’s debating skills but when given a platform to flow he can offer some good content. :o)

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primesinister
primesinister
3 years ago
Reply to  vote-for-nobody

Yep, what you said.

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