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Jeremy Clarkson “Likely to be Dropped by Amazon” After Apologising to Meghan Over Column

by Will Jones
16 January 2023 5:00 PM

Jeremy Clarkson will likely be dropped by Amazon, it has been reported, as he revealed he had emailed the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to apologise for his “disgraceful” column, which is alleged to have “incited violence against Meghan”. The Telegraph has the story.

The former Top Gear host wrote in the Sun last month that he had dreamed of the Duchess being paraded through British towns naked while crowds hurl excrement and chant “shame”.

He claimed that “everyone who’s my age thinks the same way”.

In a lengthy post published on his Instagram page, Clarkson suggested that he was apologising because he had been asked to and admitted that both ITV and Amazon were “incandescent”.

But he insisted he was sorry “all the way from the balls of my feet to the follicles on my head”.

He said he had emailed the Sussexes to apologise on Christmas Day but at the same time, told the couple he was “baffled” by their Netflix series. 

Meanwhile, industry sources revealed that Amazon Prime Video, which broadcasts The Grand Tour and Clarkson’s Farm, would likely be parting ways with the presenter and would not be working on any further seasons beyond those already commissioned.

It would mean that Clarkson would likely not appear in any new shows on Prime Video beyond 2024, according to Variety.

His column was eventually removed from the Sun’s website – at Clarkson’s request – after 17,500 complaints made it the most complained-about article in the press regulator’s history.

The row escalated again last week, when Prince Harry told ITV in an interview that the “cruel” article incited violence against women and said the monarchy’s silence on the matter was “deafening”.

Clarkson noted on Instagram that apologies never work. Yet he grovelled before Duchess Difficult anyway. He wrote:

One of the strange things I’ve noticed in recent times is that whenever an MP or a well-known person is asked to apologise for something, no matter how heartfelt or profound that apology may be, it’s never enough for the people who called for it in the first place.

So I’m going to try and buck the trend this morning with an apology for the things I said in a Sun column recently about Meghan Markle. I really am sorry. All the way from the balls of my feet to the follicles on my head. This is me putting my hands up. It’s a mea culpa with bells on.

Usually, I read what I’ve written to someone else before filing, but I was home alone on that fateful day, and in a hurry. So when I’d finished, I just pressed Send. And then, when the column appeared the next day, the landmine exploded.

Clarkson claims he had inadvertently omitted to mention it was a Game of Thrones reference.

We’ve all been there, I guess. In that precise moment when we suddenly realise we’ve completely messed up. You are sweaty and cold at the same time. And your head pounds. And you feel sick. I couldn’t believe what I was reading. Had I really said that? It was horrible.

I knew what had happened straight away. I’d been thinking of a scene in Games Of Thrones, but I’d forgotten to mention this. So it looked like I was actually calling for revolting violence to rain down on Meghan’s head.

I was very angry with myself because in all those controversial days on Top Gear, when I was accused of all sorts of things, it was very rarely sexism.

I was mortified and so was everyone else. My phone went mad. Very close friends were furious. Even my own daughter took to Instagram to denounce me.

He expresses worry that he won’t be able to write interesting columns anymore now that he must remain “vigilant” against offending the professionally offended.

So can I move on now? Not sure. It’s hard to be interesting and vigilant at the same time. You never hear peals of laughter coming from a health and safety seminar. But I promise you this, I will try.

Never apologise to the woke, Jeremy. It has only ever made things worse.

Let’s hope Amazon doesn’t drop him, and bring to an end the The Grand Tour and Clarkson’s Farm. You’d think the company would realise that if it doesn’t stand by its hugely popular talent, it doesn’t deserve them. But the ‘woke mind virus’ makes people do some very self-destructive things.

Worth reading in full.

Stop Press: The Sussexes have rejected Clarkson’s apology, saying he has a “long-standing pattern of writing articles that spread hate rhetoric, dangerous conspiracy theories and misogyny”. MailOnline has more.

Tags: Cancel CultureHarry and MeghanJeremy ClarksonMeghan MarkleWoke GobbledegookWokery

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NeilofWatford
NeilofWatford
3 years ago

Let’s face it, the vax is a killer.
What’s holding down public outrage is organised, serial denial from MSM’s failure to investigate and a government that can’t admit it made such a massive, deadly decision to mandate it.
On a daily basis Dr Naomi Wolf’s legal team are uncovering Pfizer’s malfeance. If you’d like to help sift through 75,000 documents released under FoI and you have expertise in medical or legal matters, drop her a line.
https://rumble.com/v12x3dd-dr.-wolf-covid-vaccines-and-pregnancy.html

Last edited 3 years ago by NeilofWatford
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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

The Covid “vaccines” are one of the greatest scandals in human history: immense fortunes made, as people across the globe were lied to and bullied in order to submit themselves to repeated injections.

None of this would have been possible without the active collaboration of governments and media organisations.

Amidst all the talk of saving the planet, what we’re not talking about is saving humanity. If we let those responsible get away with this, we are lost.

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

You forget the stupidity of the masses. None of this would have been possible without the sheer volume of people no longer able to think for themselves. I blame Big Tech. more than anyone actually; the left-wing, peer-approval obsessed culture they have created was a massive influencer in the sheep-like mentality the masses followed.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

I do not believe that human beings are inherently, intrinsically stupid en masse.

Nor, I think do you. You refer to people “no longer” able to think for themselves, and I agree that there are many – far too many.

But I’ve learnt that hunts for whom to blame are not enough, and they can end up becoming a distraction. It’s what and whom “the masses followed” that concerns me; and how to do something to stop this from ever happening again.

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Nope, we disagree chap, I do think people are stupid en masse. Incredibly stupid. Anybody that follows without questioning is a huge problem. These are the people that fed Nazi Germany and will feed any evil as long as it’s socially acceptable. We definitely disagree. But that’s fine, that’s what free speech and open discussion is all about – I don’t agree with you, but I respect your opinion.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

I think you both make valid points. In my opinion there’s a mixture of people; the stupid, the gullible, the apathetic, the intellectually lazy, the scared and propagandized and those who got jabbed under duress ( no jab no job, for e.g. ). The many that toe the line do so for a variety of reasons and could easily be a combo of the above.

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Some psychologists break down humans into 3 basic types :-
20/60/20.

20% do critical thought.
60% just follow the herd, ie MSM.
20% don’t think – they are the lynch mob mentalists, ie the first in line for salvation via the jab.

Holds good throughout history, last big one WW2 Germany.
Parallel with Covid.
If you ever wondered why so many decent people just stood and watched as Germany descended into Fascism, well, you know now…

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

Thinking for yourself is career armageddon in quite a few workplaces. No matter how evil external events might be, it is completely unacceptable to do anything but turn the other cheek, keep your head down and let the world evolve as it will.

What’s more, people who enforce such obedience tell the whole world what ‘good people’ they are, when they aren’t using mobile phone tracking technology to follow their employees outside of working hours.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

That sounds more likely than the 30/40/30 version I’ve also heard.

And maybe we’re inclined to associate to associate conformity with decency. When decency is tested, we can get a shock.

I saw an interview with a nurse in one of the early London protest marches. She said that if you wanted to know how you would have behaved in Nazi Germany, you were about to find out.

At the time, I thought that was a bit rough. Now I think she was spot on.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

No worries – likewise. I thought you meant that there was a time when people could think for themselves!

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

At the end of the day health is a personal responsibility. That being said the actions of governments, Big Pharma, Big Medicine, Big Media/Big Tech and importantly Big Oligarch money have reached a level of criminality that is absolutely staggering. Many heads must be made to roll.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

The masses have been brainwashed in a military standard psyop – most are in a state of induced, irrational, fear psychosis and have had no choice as their ‘rationality’ has been by-passed and they are currently still ‘hypnotised’.

Others are simply in denial, as they cannot face the reality of what they may have done to themselves.

The last factor is the ‘spiral of silence’ – conformity to majority opinion and action gives them a sense of belonging – ‘not rocking the boat.’

Sadly, their Vaccine ‘boat’ has been jabbed full of holes.

Last edited 3 years ago by David Beaton
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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Absolutely bang on AE.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Absolutely true!

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

What is holding down public outrage is the Ukraine conflict. Its a great way to divert attention from our home grown crisis which is why the Fat Fraud is anxious to prolong the war to keep the heat off of him.

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Anxious enough to escalate it, rather than helping seek a peaceful solution.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Not only that! He has ‘volunteered’ to be the No 1 Cheer Leader for hit war with Russia!

“Off his trolley” comes to mind!

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

The Ukraine Conflict is about the USA selling Arms to other NATO countries to send to Ukraine. The UK has zero freedom to move because the country is now a complete satrapy to the USA.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

Yes, Senile Biden effectively dictates ‘policy’ ( !) to the Fat Fraud (with the help of Bill Gates of course).

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

“a government that can’t admit it made such a massive, deadly decision to mandate it.”

Incompetency theory – utter nonsense.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

How much longer will the media clampdown on truth be tolerated ?

Mark Steyn”in trouble” on GB News with Ofcom for using Government’ s own stats to challenge the vax ‘narrative lies!

Surely there are still enough half- decent people left in our Parliament and Establishment to make a move against this now life-threatening censorship of “vaccine” truth and the budding Medical-technic tyranny and the crushing of free expression and real science it represents ?

Then again perhaps not …money and the offer of ‘position’ talk.

Is it 140 Tory MPs on the Government payroll or more?

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
3 years ago

Safe and effective

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

And if you don’t have at least 4 of them you’ll kill somebodies granny.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

“Safe” yes, from exposure as being highly “effective” in stealthily reducing the Global population by 15% – a ‘target’ Gates has actually predicted his planned multiple ‘ vaccines’ will help achieve when the WHO mandates come into force.

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Oxford Blues
Oxford Blues
3 years ago

The units on the y-axis cannot be correct. 10,000 deaths per 1000 live births?? Presumably the comma should be a decimal point.

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thorsteinn@sjonarrond.is
thorsteinn@sjonarrond.is
3 years ago
Reply to  Oxford Blues

Decimals, for some reason they appear in the graph. But it is ten, not ten thousand. Thanks for pointing this out.

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  Oxford Blues

Can’t speak for Iceland, but in German speaking lands, they use a comma where we use a decimal point.

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago

The government’s level of competence has always been in question for as long as I can remember, now they need to go, not just the conservatives, the whole lot!

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

This has nothing to do with competence and everything to do with complicity.

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  TSull

Competent in complicity, incompetent in good governance. As a gesture of goodwill.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

It is large central government we must destroy. Nothing that big can be functional.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago

Yet another idea propagated by dissidents – that the mRNA injections harm pregnant women and their children – is shown to be true. It’s almost impossible to comprehend. I am just so grateful my family and I saw these criminals coming and avoided the jabs like the revolting plague that they are. Only last week, my wife got into a very heated discussion with an erstwhile friend who called her a ‘conspiracy theorist’ because she was unjabbed. He later admitted he had read NOTHING on the ‘vaccines’ whatsoever and taken it on blind faith that the NHS would never harm the public. Eventually, he asked her to send some stuff she had read. Needless to say she has not – at this point, is it worth it?

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artfelix
artfelix
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

It is worth it – I have “converted” a few people simply by sending them the credible sources to do their own research. Telling people doesn’t work, helping them work it out for themselves does.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

I’m glad to hear it. Along with the closed minds, there are always those who keep the door ajar.

My best result (to my mind) was with a friend who decided not to take the booster and to have an argument with her doctor. She’s very feisty and now at work converting others.

In her case, a friendship going back more than two decades meant that I had a good idea of which sources she would find credible.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

I converted my mother-in-law, which was tremendously painful and required some real maturity on her part. But beyond that, my general approach has been to see covid as a litmus paper to determine who I want to have a relationship with. I’m simply not interested in gullible morons.

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I have a similar approach. Judging by the sheer number of masked morons I encountered while doing the weekly shop today, I’d say those who are awake to all of this have a very small pool to choose from when it comes to friendships.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Yep, same. It certainly separates the wheat from the chaff in that regard. My Christmas card list certainly got shorter!

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Ha yes so did mine. And the number of colleagues I now get on with dwindled to one!

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Yikes – that must be a tad awkward in the staff room at times!

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Deeply awkward.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Apologies – a tad doesn’t come close then.

Hopefully you can scroll here on your phone for a bit of sanity during lunch break / free periods if it all gets too much.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

If it wasn’t for my colleague who is a fellow traveler I would have gone insane! And yes DS is a permanent fixture on my screen!

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Assortative mating, in other words? It’s gone on for generations.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Getting that way – sad yes, but life is getting all too short to waste so much time and mental energy with sneering ‘sheepies’!

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

Sadly, most simply cannot.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Eventually, he asked her to send some stuff she had read. Needless to say she has not – at this point, is it worth it?

I don’t think so. A colleague asked me to do this. I was cautious, because my instinct was that his mind was entirely closed on the subject and that he would read anything I sent him accordingly.

That proved to be the case, and it almost destroyed what was previously a good relationship. To his credit, he made the effort to mend fences, and we have done so; but I won’t waste energy on the subject again – not with him.

I remain concerned by how many people’s minds are closed on so many subjects. Yours, if I’m reading your posts correctly, is not.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

I don’t either. It was so insulting because he must have imagined this was like, a website we’d seen or something! The truth is that I’ve got a folder on my desktop called EVIDENCE 2020-2022 with literally hundreds of papers, articles, videos, etc painstakingly gathered together showing vaccine harm from endless sources around the world. The idea that we’ve just watched a video on YouTube or something is just so infuriating. As far as I’m concerned, at this point, if you still haven’t sussed what’s going on then keep taking your boosters, man. The 5th should be along soon.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

What the morons don’t realise is that we’ve become experts over the last two years while they fannied around reading headlines and doing zero critical thinking.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Most of the people I know have spent the last 2 years baking banana bread, watching Netflix box sets and following Joe wicks exercise routines.

Whatever floats your boat of course. But in my case I knew that I could never have the jab so had to research it to arm myself with the information if ever I was put in a situation where I would be forced to have it.

All the research I have done has totally vindicated that decision – in spades.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

I started the same. It was a position of No and a demand to be convinced otherwise. It never came. What did come was a mountain of evidence verifying my original position as the correct one.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

Indeed Be Bop – a veritable mountain of evidence. That file is the one I open and add to every day – and then there are the other two – it is like a full time job!!! I have a file just for the vaxx alone.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Exactly. I knew about Agenda 21 and 30 by May 2020. And since this scam started I have read and read and read and I continue to do so daily, much of the reading suggested by the good people on here.

The only people who have more knowledge than me about our current predicament are all on this site. My circle of family and ‘friends’ won’t discuss or pretend this is now all over. This site keeps me sane.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

And me.

Tried to talk to elderly mother yesterday who is worried about developing (?) dementia about what she needed to do to avoid it (I think she already has it in the early stages) ie have no more blinking jabs.

In response she did something akin to “la la la la la la”. What do you do in that situation?

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Don’t give up. A cousin of mine thought he was getting nowhere with his parents, until the day his father began to change his mind.

Maybe it was the day, or the number of attempts – but at last, something clicked.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

He was lucky – I have tried so many times now and am getting no-where. They didn’t even get the significance of partygate when I explained it to them. It is like the more I try the more they dig their heels in plus every jab they have does more damage to their brains and their ability to take in what I am trying to explain. They really just don’t want to know.

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

I have family members who weren’t open to discuss actual data on climate because by doing so they would have to have arguments with the sheep in the Labour Party, of which they were a member.

I’ve never before or since come across a university graduate who had data explained to them, agreed with it, then actively chose to return to the claptrap for socio-political reasons.

But it happened….

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

I cannot talk to ANY family members about our current situation. My Dad is nearly 90 but dutifully turned up for injection number four. He knows my views.

At times I feel I am talking to the waking dead.

Pissed off – you bet.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Exactly the same HP – talking to the waking dead is a good way to put it – and yet these are my family – I love them and want them to have the best quality of life they can – and getting jab after jab and pretending that bad things aren’t happening won’t deliver that for them

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Every jab – more damage . No brain or immune system left soon.

It is all around us.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

That is what I am seeing David – and every day it is more painful to watch when you know the truth of what is being done to people.

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

It all depends on whether a mind has been opened in general terms or not. My experience is that there are relatively few whose minds are really open in some spheres and totally closed in others. You’re either open minded on most things or closed-minded on most in the main.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

I think you’re right. In my cousin’s case, both his parents are usually open-minded – but they had been alarmed by the early talk about Covid, and that alarm was constantly being reinforced by government pronouncements and the daily “news”.

I saw that alarm in so many people, and have since learnt the true meaning of people being frightened “out of their wits”.

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Alexays70
Alexays70
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Get some Melatonin and low does Lithium Orotate.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Alexays70

And do what with it?

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I think there are plenty here who have simply abandoned the MSM, both print media and TV, as well as all the MSM websites.

My reactions to those now are a bit like reading racist nazi propaganda. It produces such an emetic effect that it is deleterious to my health to anger myself by exposing myself to such rubbish any longer.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

Yep – I turned it off in March 2020, when I realised that the ABC (Australia’s equivalent of the BBC) had lost all pretence of being a public news service and was simply the governmental propaganda service.

It’s only useful now during bushfires, when it does give regular and usually reliable updates on where there the fires are at any given time.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

They think it’s all over – will they actually stand the next shock?

They also appear to think the taking down of Russian and European economies by the Western confected war with Russia and the most blatantly hysterical and distorted propaganda ever seen in this county – even during WW1 and 2 , has absolutely nothing do with the Covid Scam.

No wonder the Elites stopped opposing and finally realised that “Universal Suffrage would, far from threatening them, give them unchallenged power over the masses – forever – as soon as they had developed ‘Mass Media’ !

Mass Media propaganda must be worth 100,000 Armed Police!

If only people would actually read Schwab’s books the “Great Reset” and the “Fourth Industrial Revolution” – it is all in there for all to see!

Then of course there is RFKs blistering exposure of Fauci’s evil career.

La la la la la la …..what’s on Netflix tonight?

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I’ve got 3 folders on my desktop – one of them runs to over 200 pages – with links to papers, videos etc a lot of them gathered from people who shared them here. I could publish several books on the subject there is so much information. And I too get irritated when, speaking from a position of a certain amount of knowledge, people treat me as though my position originates from something I read on a blog run by a 16 year old in his mum’s basement.

Last edited 3 years ago by Milo
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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Respect, fellow covid nerd. Now how do we claim those two years back?

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Thank you CG – I wear my covid nerd badge with honour!

We don’t claim those years back unfortunately – but at least we are better informed than those around us. And there is another side effect to it all, my world has literally been stood on its head now. Everything I formerly believed to be true has been proven to be a huge LIE.

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

I must say I find it very difficult having stated that analysing T-cell responses to Covid was the way to go, not PCR, in May/June 2020 to be told by those who revere scientists who thought about that about 9 months later that I talk off the top of my head. I may never have been an immunologist, but I knew enough as a practicing molecular virologist to know that measuring functional T-cell responses was relevant in a way that PCR data never would be.

Amazingly, when I enunciated the fact that ‘never-ending PCR testing would make the testing companies shedloads but would be a drain on Government finances, whereas T-cell testing would only need to be done occasionally, so profits in the private sector would be less, but Government spending would be frugal but effective’, Jonathan van Tam resigned/was sacked within 24hrs.

Must have been a coincidence, eh?

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Denying knowledge or eductaion is part of eh great “dumbing down” – the talking parrot’s opinion is seen just as valid as the ( old style) MA in Propaganda Studies and Behavioural Psychology.

Remember we are all equal…innit?

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

No problem – I don’t read the 5th!

But, like you, I read widely on this – and I have my folder too. I used to print out select pieces for friends and colleagues in great numbers, but have learnt to be more selective.

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olympian
olympian
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

It is insulting. Everyone I know thinks I’m completely crazy.
My mother was undecided about having her 4th jab, so I sent her a link to the Mark Steyn show from last week. Somehow watching this persuaded her to have it.
Another friend refused to watch it saying it was a right-wing channel.
Unless it’s on the BBC it hás no credibility in their eyes.
My mother’s argument was that if it was true that the triple jabbed were twice as disposed to covid and hospitalisation [three times more likely to die],
the government wouldn’t be promoting it.
Most people can’t get passed the idea that their leaders have anything other than good intentions.
Despite the fact that in her lifetime she witnessed Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and
Pol Pot.

I’ve avoided discussing vaccine harms and focused solely on efficacy but it’s got me nowhere. Does anyone know of any article from ‘credible’ sources’ that might be persuasive?

CG I believe it was you that hypothesised under a recent article that to create chaos [societal breakdown] the truth about vaccines would be slowly revealed to create the carnage from which a NWO could emerge. I’m inclines to agree.

Best wishes to you all from Southern Europe.

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olympian
olympian
3 years ago
Reply to  olympian

*inclined – autocorrect

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  olympian

Best wishes to you too! Yes it was me and one of my twisted fantasies (that have a habit of coming true)

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  olympian

Often what’s needed is the right trigger. What triggers you and me to enquire may not be what triggers others to do likewise.

Maybe we ‘early adopters of skeptical reason’ need to spend time understanding what alternative triggers might work on those more easily duped??

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

I think it’s through generally poking fun at the reliability of governments and the media. Very few people will admit that they believe everything they are told by them.

Perhaps by assuming a degree of scepticism, we can encourage it to grow?

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  olympian

I’m sure Mark would be shocked and surprised by the contrary effect of watching his show!

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

My thoughts exactly!!!

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rockoman
rockoman
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

One thing’s for sure – if you don’t argue your case you won’t ‘convert’ them.

You miss 100% of the shots you never take.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

That’s true but I don’t want to be gaslighted by nursery level intellects who read news headlines in passing and think the government has their best interests at heart. Life’s too short.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

You do – that is true.

But this isn’t a game of tennis we are playing here.

I am going to have to try to continue to retain the best possible relationships I can with the family members who are all jabbed. I have to ask myself, particularly with the elderlies who are all triple jabbed, whether I can inform them and educate them without scaring the bejaysus out of them. It is very difficult and a requires me to walk a very fine line.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

Quite right. And over time, you improve – you get better at spotting an opening.

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Alexays70
Alexays70
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Indeed I have the same issues with a friend. He was pro-vax (“how did I know that I had had Covid?” (Chillblains on toes)). In the end we agreed to differ and not talk about it anymore. He then lamented the early death of Shane Warne (about our age). I said nothing at that stage. 2 years of pro-vax propaganda leads to almost insurmountable cognitive dissonance.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

If we are correct, then time will eventually open the ‘eyes wide shut’ with the unexpected arrival of the Grim Reaper in dramatic form!

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I recently had a similar conversation with my, triple vaxxed brother. I asked him why he has car, house, life insurance, I then asked why those who have acted to protect themselves from what the experimental vaccines ‘might’ cause are called ‘conspiracy theorists/nutters’ and not, sensible people taking out an insurance policy…. He had no answer.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

I’m not surprised, there is no answer!!

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Yes – that’s an excellent approach, Catee. I might try it!

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

He probably thinks that his vaccination IS an insurance policy. It isn’t, it’s an act of wilfully increasing your risk profile in a way that should see your actual life insurance premiums rise slightly.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

It actually cancels insurance policies according to some Insurance Agencies who argue that death after and attributed to ‘vaccination’ is ‘suicide’ as it was a choice ‘freely made’ by those who knew the risks(!)

Last edited 3 years ago by David Beaton
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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

It doesn’t harm enormous numbers, the point is that it doesn’t seem to do any good to the ones it doesn’t harm. So you have a non-efficacious vaccine which causes harm to a small subpopulation.

Not something any Government should be wasting money on.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

Give it time – what about VAIDS and cancers?

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zners
zners
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

If they ask I definitely think it is worth sending something, but it’s got to be solid. Doctors for Covid Ethics is the best for me. Too late for them so best to warn them on what they’re about to read and comfort them with the fact that this stuff may wane over time. However recent research shows that the vaccine stays in the bloodstream for up to a year m, meaning absolutely billions of both the Mrna messenger and toxic lipids carrying them are circulating all over their bodies. They won’t even know what’s happening to their bodies – doesn’t have to be obvious. Only thing that could completely save them is if the whole stuff around only certain batches being concentrated turns out to be true.
Otherwise the key thing now really is to persuade people to not go further with boosters. I think a huge percentage of the population regardless will be thinking twice the next time this topic comes up, and I’m sure it will. A million dollars it will involve the dropping of MRNA.

Last edited 3 years ago by zners
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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  zners

Yes, that one’s hard to beat. Canadian Doctors for Covid Ethics also can be a winner.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Why is “genocide “a word we hardly ever hear used ?

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago

I find it really hard to temper my contempt for anyone who agreed to have this stuff injected into them. It was a pack of obvious lies. The confected need for them, the so-called clinical trials, the sinister marketing campaigns, the fraud, the bribery, the television shills, the history of Big Pharma especially Pfizer, the fact they don’t do what vaccines do, the shifting goalposts, the epidemiologically meaningless passports. How many goddamn red flags do you need to say actually I think I’ll give it a miss.
That 80% of the population stupid, ignorant and naive enough to miss all of that not only endangered their own lives and the lives of their children, but us too by helping to normalise the idea of state-sponsored experimentation.
We must never forget and never forgive this crime.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Yes I agree and share your contempt for the gullible, traitorous fools who brought this on themselves and shafted society as a whole due to enabling those in power to proceed with their nefarious agenda. These very adults, who are so thick at this late stage that they still obediently do as they’re told and follow whatever instructions they are given, are the very same kind of people who will tell their kids not to talk to strangers or to get into cars with people they don’t know. Yet they’ll quite happily and compliantly oblige and go get their kids jabbed without the slightest hesitation. They’re the sort that will put more thought and research into buying a new air fryer than what they’d do before rocking up to have a novel medicine injected into themselves repeatedly, which patently does not work and is now proven unsafe. Tragic and shameful.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

They were sitting ducks.

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I could think of another word to describe them that sounds very similar. To be honest, I’m tired of them. They are unwilling to entertain the notion that they’ve been had big time, not even for a microsecond.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  TSull

I know what you mean. It’s boring AF now. Let them learn the hard way. They’re adults at the end of the day, and allegedly “competent”, so what else can we do?

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I think come this winter (or a 4th jab – whichever does the same job sooner) a lot of people are going to learn a very unpleasant lesson.

And they are going to be watching the comparatively healthy unjabbed and left wondering – why are they OK? why did I take those jabs? why did they not take them?

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Yes I’m of the same mindset. This upcoming ‘flu season’ will be interesting, to say the least. My biggest dread is that they’ll start encouraging the tests again and all of that BS will get ramped up and before you know it, hello another ‘casedemic’, then the inevitable restrictions that we know they won’t hesitate in implementing once more.
In my house I’m unjabbed but my husband’s had both Moderna shots, so we’re quite an interesting mini experiment. He got Covid ( or a positive PCR anyway ) despite his jabbed status but nothing at all to write home about. I’ve been perfectly well throughout so I guess we keep on keeping on. Just hope he doesn’t cave and get jab no.3…

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Oh God Mogwai – I have no idea how you manage that at home but am sure there are others in the same boat. I have heard of anecdotal reports of relationships breaking down because of entrenched positions within couples of one taking the jabs and one refusing.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Yes it has been challenging but we’re in the eye of the storm atm and have summer to plan for and enjoy. I’ll keep chipping away at his cognitive dissonance in subtle ways though, otherwise world war 3 will kick off. Again! lol

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Good for you – I admire your spirit!

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Goodness me that sounds difficult. I’ve seen couples find themselves in very different places over the last two years. It sounds like you’ve got through it ok though. Even in my house, despite our shared perspective, my wife and I have been at odds over it (largely due to my general pessimism and annoying obsession with it!!)

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Yes it tends to be an area that is best left alone and never brought up. A bit like the Ukraine situation. They are both ‘no go zones’ due to us being completely polarized. But he is a BBC-lover so is it any surprise? I’m hoping by me retaining the unjabbed, unmasked ( they’d better not bloody re-emerge in future either! ) status and continuing to challenge his set of beliefs here and there, the pennies might start to drop as he sees that I’m totally fine. The truth will out, as they say.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

My best friend is in a very similar situation with his (GP) wife. The vaccines must not be mentioned in the house and it’s a topic that has nearly destroyed their marriage. All I can say is hold the line, I believe very strongly that you’re on the right side of matters and I hope he can eventually see it!

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

This winter’s lessons will be based on heating bills, which is all about Ukraine, not about Covid19.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

True.

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John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

That’s slightly misleading, in that most NHS patients are ‘lay people’ and not ‘clinicians’. The latter are duty-bound to give patients the best professional advice. (In the current circumstances, ha ha ha, but you know how it’s meant to work in theory…)

As Anna de Buisseret said, military-grade psy-ops. invalidate even so-called ‘informed consent’. So the a) litigious and b) rich who’ve been conned (and injured) should consult a lawyer.

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  John001

Here’s a few absolutely necessary pieces of advice that clinicians should have been legally bound to give in late 2020.

  1. These vaccines are the least-tested products in medical history. You are part of a global Phase III clinical trial.
  2. The technology used in this clinical trial has had almost zero testing in humans. We don’t have a clue what adverse outcomes might occur.
  3. The protein used for the vaccine response (the spike protein) is not the protein that the body most often makes immune responses to during SARS-like infections. So why they used the spike protein is unclear.
  4. All the patients who got ill with SARS twenty years ago are still capable of producing a strong prophylactic T-cell response to this day. The chances of you getting ill and then getting lifelong immunity to this disease is therefore pretty high. There’s a small risk that SARS-CoV2 is unlike SARS, but there’s no evidence to back that up just yet.
  5. The judgement call you have to make is whether you would be one of the unlucky ones who might be supremely susceptible to SARS-CoV2 and die if unvaccinated: if you’re not, the odds are that you should just get ill, recover and then be immune. You may be lucky and simply not get ill at all.
  6. I can’t give you the detailed figures on risks at this time because the data doesn’t exist. It’ll take a couple of years of this new disease playing out before I can give you reallyl quantitative risk-assessment advice.
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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  TSull

Yep. Just keep taking those boosters.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  TSull

Sitting ducks
Silly f*cks
Total schmucks

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John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

It was more understandable for 70-100 year olds who were relatively near the front of the queue. Some woke up PDQ though (by spring 2021) and would now sue the NHS and government for malpractice … if they thought they could win.

By the time 20, 30 or 40 y olds were injected, any fool could spot the con. Well, actually, many people failed even that test.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I understand. But those people include family members I love and who still love me (despite my heresy).

I wish with all my heart that they hadn’t agreed to the injections (some were forced to do so in order to keep jobs they needed – the mandates are massive in Australia); but I’m saving my rage for those who lied to trusting people and coerced others.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

You are right, of course. I think I’m having a bad day. I know the right thing to do is to continue to show love and understanding towards people who were psychologically and physically assaulted by the state, but so many of them have attacked or mocked me for disagreeing, it’s really hard!

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

It is hard – very hard.

I am in the invidious position that the only other person in my family who has the same stance as me is the black sheep – we’ll call him Mr X.

Not generally known for his massive brain power (over the years he has done some dreadfully stupid, reckless and dangerous things in his time), but somehow he very early on got on the right side of this debate and posts a lot of stuff about it on his facebook page, which for some reason my mother reads – principally I think to deride him for not toeing the government line and following the narrative.

When I try to point out to various family members what is going on, the fraud, the propaganda, The Science, the jab deaths etc I am then told, “you are just like Mr X” which is very hurtful and totally negates the credibility of my evidence and position.

At times it has occurred to me, that they are all the more determined to go along with the narrative and comply with every edict forced on them, primarily to make sure their position is the very opposite of Mr X, because there is no way Mr X could be right and they could be wrong, as they consider him to be a total idiot while they are intelligent educated people.

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

You don’t have to be overly intelligent or educated to smell transparent, stinking bullshit. That’s possibly part of the problem. Perhaps many of the ‘educated’ types who bought the lies lacked the good sense to see the bloody obvious.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

Unfortunately I know a lot of “educated types” who are also very law abiding and compliant – very “with the programme”, as opposed to ‘kicking against authority’ which is how some people regard my stance.

I have had said to me “everybody else is doing it, why can’t you?”

To which I silently reply in my head “because I can see through it – why can’t you?”

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Just because everyone else signed up to the killing fields in 1914 didn’t mean that your grandparents should have been forced to…

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

Being ‘educated’ means having gazillions of minutiae and technical methodologies rammed down your throat. It doesn’t mean stepping back and asking the bleedin’ obvious questions first.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

Keeping their noses clean and not challenging authority by “rocking the boat” was their principal means of climbing up the greasy pole .

Most enjoy being manipulated into orthodoxy, it makes them feel ‘comfortable.’…and that nasty little new 4 letter word the ‘Controllers’ now love … “safe”.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Ha I have EXACTLY the same thing in my family. I also have a Mr X (my wife’s brother!!) oh well, I don’t know about you but I’d rather be an unvaxxed fruitcake than a vaxxed normie!

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Oh, I am prepared to take unvaxxed fruitcake every time – none of the vaxxed normies I see are what you would call glowing with health!

It is hard having a Mr X – because that person’s total absence of credibility on anything then rubs off on the very cogent and sensible points you are trying to make to your nearest and dearest about just the most important thing in life – their health (or fully jabbed lack of it!)

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Smearing the knowledgeable is always the first retreat of the ignorant bullies. I’ve seen it across all fields of life and the levels of ignorant bullies in senior medical positions is truly frightening.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

Yes – being knowledgable is *not* a good way to get ahead.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

You are right there.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

“Black Sheep”….strong, independent survival instinct!

Not afraid to be different.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

‘Black sheep’ was best generic way to try to describe him – but what you are describing (independent survival instinct!
Not afraid to be different.) while it would describe me does not describe Mr X

Mr X is not someone whose opinions on anything would be regarded as having any credibility. In general if Mr X was advocating doing X your default option would be to do the opposite.

Which explains why it is a crying shame that of all the things he has to be ‘right’ about it is this one – which matters so much!

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Those forced to be injected to keep their jobs need a class action suit against a class of employers and they need to name the management, shareholders and if appropriate, senior Government officials as named defendants in a corporate malpractice suit with no limit to damages set.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

It’s happening!

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Chris_uk
Chris_uk
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I’m struggling to keep it together with some of my stupid friends. Anyone who actively defends the jabs is gone from my life.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris_uk

✊ Right on

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris_uk

My experience of this is that to stay happy and ignorant really means you didn’t go through emotional adolescence.

You’d be amazed how many people never went through that process.

If you went through that and you succumb to the claptrap, you are doing so as an actor, not because you believe in it. You are scheming and posturing, not actually talking about what you believe in. That does tend to be easier for sociopaths and psychopaths than those with consciences…

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Well, the fact remains that the Establishment is full of the vaccinated, unbelievable number of doctors, MPs, civil servants, scientists, University staff all jabbed.

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zners
zners
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

likewise, but I guess if it’s depopulation they want then you’re in luck.

Last edited 3 years ago by zners
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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago

The elephant is getting too big to fit into any room. But still they ( both ‘sheeple’ and ‘powers that be’ ) don’t acknowledge it and choose to look the other way. If the jabs have killed ‘X’ amount of people thus far, how many more deaths will they be responsible for in another 12 months, for example, both directly ( jabees ) and indirectly ( unborn and newborn babies )?

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Ooooh I’ve offended 2 people ( and counting! ) in less than 20 mins without a single swear word. Must be a personal record!! LOL 😉

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I’ve offended them too. I think they should have the maturity and decency to say why they disagree, or fuckin do one!

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I think they’re on the wrong website, though almost certainly the usual lurking trolls. “Haters gonna hate”, so they can kiss it! Mwahahaha…

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Well done Mogwai.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Cheers m’dears. 🙂

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Look, if we actually want discussions not to be simply an echo chamber of one viewpoint, you need to offend a few people. I get offended on certain websites regularly but keep going back because I don’t want to be in cultures of mutual reinforcement.

I read websites run by Russian emigres about Ukraine because I know they will view the world differently to the UK. Sometimes I disagree strongly with them, but mostly I read and absorb, because whether it is all accurate or not, it educates me about how those from different parts of the world see the world.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

🤠

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

He’s so wise isn’t he? He’s like the Obi-Wan of the vax world. Gotta love Dr Malone. 🙂

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

He’ll be the scientific advisor to President Robert F Kennedy.
In my dreams.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Same dreams. What an impressive man.

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scamdemic
scamdemic
3 years ago

Nothing to see here …
They will blame the virus.

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago

So there are a few obvious questions to ask here:

  1. Breaking down the death data, what number of still births occurred in vaccinated women and what number in the unvaccinated? Are there significant differences in the per thousand still births between the vaccinated and unvaccinated?
  2. Could there be any other explanations for a single year outlier data point? Were there any unusual environmental events? Was ash from a volcanic eruption present in the air? Was there an unusually cold winter in Iceland?

The first rule of data analysis is the truism: ‘correlation does not equal causation’.

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
3 years ago

having just read all of 121 comments below I would like to add this.

After spending 10 weeks in the UK last year I was still unable to understand how many people were taken in by the corona crap. Bear in mind that I do not have a TV here in Thailand and everyone who I visited either did not have one or turned off the TV.

However as I had to spend 14 days in quarantine when I got back here I had a choice of three English speaking channels to use – BBC, ABC and Al Jazeera.

I tried the first two and it was only convid propaganda which I turned off in disgust or else I would have hurled the TV off the verandah. Needless to say Al jazeera was the one I watched as it did at least have some world news. I have to say it was only then that I understood how people had been mesmerised by the convid crap.

As an aside I have just given two of my friends a farewell hug as they are off to the UK next week. One has been ‘diagnosed’ with the ‘rona and the other thinks he will get it.

Remaining unjabbed I reckon I will be ok. So their three jabs each worked well didn’t they?

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

We know the “vaccines” aren’t ‘safe’ – we need answers and prosecutions not more ‘questions’!

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