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Who Controls the Administrative State?

by Jeffrey A. Tucker
23 March 2025 1:00 PM

President Trump on March 20th, 2025, ordered the following: “The Secretary of Education shall, to the maximum extent appropriate and permitted by law, take all necessary steps to facilitate the closure of the Department of Education.”

That is interesting language: to “take all necessary steps to facilitate the closure” is not the same as closing it. And what is “permitted by law” is precisely what is in dispute.

It is meant to feel like abolition, and the media reported it as such, but it is not even close. This is not Trump’s fault. The supposed authoritarian has his hands tied in many directions, even over agencies he supposedly controls, the actions of which he must ultimately bear responsibility. 

The Department of Education is an executive agency, created by Congress in 1979. Trump wants it gone forever. So do his voters. Can he do that? No, but can he destaff the place and scatter its functions? No one knows for sure. Who decides? Presumably the highest court, eventually. 

How this is decided – whether the President is actually in charge or really just a symbolic figure like the King of Sweden – affects not just this one destructive agency but hundreds more. Indeed, the fate of the whole of freedom and functioning of constitutional republics may depend on the answer. 

All burning questions of politics today turn on who or what is in charge of the administrative state. No one knows the answer and this is for a reason. The main functioning of the modern state falls to a beast that does not exist in the Constitution. 

The public mind has never had great love for bureaucracies. Consistent with Max Weber’s worry, they have put society in an impenetrable “iron cage” built of bloodless rationalism, needling edicts, corporatist corruption and never-ending empire-building checked by neither budgetary restraint nor plebiscite. 

Today’s full consciousness of the authority and ubiquity of the administrative state is rather new. The term itself is a mouthful and doesn’t come close to describing the breadth and depth of the problem, including its root systems and retail branches. The new awareness is that neither the people nor their elected representatives are really in charge of the regime under which we live, which betrays the whole political promise of the Enlightenment. 

This dawning awareness is probably 100 years late. The machinery of what is popularly known as the “deep state” – I’ve argued there are deep, middle and shallow layers – has been growing in the US since the inception of the civil service in 1883 and thoroughly entrenched over two world wars and countless crises at home and abroad. 

The edifice of compulsion and control is indescribably huge. No one can agree precisely on how many agencies there are or how many people work for them, much less how many institutions and individuals work on contract for them, either directly or indirectly. And that is just the public face; the subterranean branch is far more elusive. 

The revolt against them all came with the Covid controls, when everyone was surrounded on all sides by forces outside our purview and about which the politicians knew not much at all. Then those same institutional forces appear to be involved in overturning the rule of a very popular politician whom they tried to stop from gaining a second term. 

The combination of this series of outrages – what Jefferson in his Declaration called “a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object” – has led to a torrent of awareness. This has translated into political action. 

A distinguishing mark of Trump’s second term has been an optically concerted effort, at least initially, to take control of and then curb administrative state power, more so than any executive in living memory. At every step in these efforts, there has been some barrier, even many on all sides. 

There are at least 100 legal challenges making their way through courts. District judges are striking down Trump’s ability to fire workers, redirect funding, curb responsibilities and otherwise change the way they do business. 

Even the signature early achievement of DOGE – the shuttering of USAID – has been stopped by a judge with an attempt to reverse it. A judge has even dared tell the Trump administration who it can and cannot hire at USAID. 

Not a day goes by when the New York Times does not manufacture some maudlin defense of the put-upon minions of the tax-funded managerial class. In this worldview, the agencies are always right, whereas any elected or appointed person seeking to rein them in or terminate them is attacking the public interest. 

After all, as it turns out, legacy media and the administrative state have worked together for at least a century to cobble together what was conventionally called “the news”. Where would the NYT or the whole legacy media otherwise be? 

So ferocious has been the pushback against even the paltry successes and often cosmetic reforms of MAGA/MAHA/DOGE that vigilantes have engaged in terrorism against Teslas and their owners. Not even returning astronauts from being “lost in space” has redeemed Elon Musk from the wrath of the ruling class. Hating him and his companies is the “new thing” for NPCs, on a long list that began with masks, shots, supporting Ukraine and surgical rights for gender dysphoria. 

What is really at stake, more so than any issue in American life (and this applies to states around the world) – far more than any ideological battles over Left and Right, red and blue or race and class – is the status, power and security of the administrative state itself and all its works. 

We claim to support democracy yet all the while, empires of command-and-control have arisen among us. The victims have only one mechanism available to fight back: the vote. Can that work? We do not yet know. This question will likely be decided by the highest court. 

All of which is awkward. It is impossible to get around this US government organisational chart. All but a handful of agencies live under the category of the executive branch. Article 2, Section 1, says: “The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.”

Does the president control the whole of the executive branch in a meaningful way? One would think so. It’s impossible to understand how it could be otherwise. The chief executive is… the chief executive. He is held responsible for what these agencies do – we certainly blasted away at the Trump administration in the first term for everything that happened under his watch. In that case, and if the buck really does stop at the Oval Office desk, the president must have some modicum of control beyond the ability to tag a marionette to get the best parking spot at the agency. 

What is the alternative to presidential oversight and management of the agencies listed in this branch of government? They run themselves? That claim means nothing in practice.

For an agency to be deemed “independent” turns out to mean codependency with the industries regulated, subsidised, penalised or otherwise impacted by its operations. HUD does housing development, FDA does pharmaceuticals, DOA does farming, DOL does unions, DOE does oil and turbines, DOD does tanks and bombs, FAA does airlines and so on it goes forever. 

That’s what “independence” means in practice: total acquiescence to industrial cartels, trade groups and behind-the-scenes systems of payola, blackmail and graft, while the powerless among the people live with the results. This much we have learned and cannot unlearn. 

That is precisely the problem that cries out for a solution. The solution of elections seems reasonable only if the people we elected actually have the authority over the thing they seek to reform. 

There are criticisms of the idea of executive control of executive agencies, which is really nothing other than the system the Founders established. 

First, conceding more power to the president raises fears that he will behave like a dictator, a fear that is legitimate. Partisan supporters of Trump won’t be happy when the precedent is cited to reverse Trump’s political priorities and the agencies turn on Red-state voters in revenge. 

That problem is solved by dismantling agency power itself, which, interestingly, is mostly what Trump’s executive orders have sought to achieve and which the courts and media have worked to stop. 

Second, one worries about the return of the “spoils system”, the supposedly corrupt system by which the president hands out favours to friends in the form of emoluments, a practice the establishment of the civil service was supposed to stop. 

In reality, the new system of the early 20th Century fixed nothing but only added another layer, a permanent ruling class to participate more fully in a new type of spoils system that operated now under the cloak of science and efficiency. 

Honestly, can we really compare the petty thievery of Tammany Hall to the global depredations of USAID?

Third, it is said that presidential control of agencies threatens to erode checks and balances. The obvious response is the organisational chart above. That happened long ago as Congress created and funded agency after agency from the Wilson to the Biden administration, all under executive control. 

Congress perhaps wanted the administrative state to be an unannounced and unaccountable fourth branch, but nothing in the founding documents created or imagined such a thing. 

If you are worried about being dominated and destroyed by a ravenous beast, the best approach is not to adopt one, feed it to adulthood, train it to attack and eat people and then unleash it. 

The Covid years taught us to fear the power of the agencies and those who control them, not just nationally but globally. The question now is two-fold: what can be done about it and how to get from here to there? 

Trump’s Executive Order on the Department of Education illustrates the point precisely. His administration is so uncertain of what it does and can control, even of agencies that are wholly executive agencies, listed clearly under the heading of executive agencies, that it has to dodge and weave practical and legal barriers and land mines, even in its own supposed executive pronouncements, even to urge what might amount to be minor reforms. 

Whoever is in charge of such a system, it is clearly not the people.

Jeffrey A. Tucker is founder and President of the Brownstone Institute, where this article first appeared.

Tags: DemocracyDonald TrumpPoliticsUnited States

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Grahamb
Grahamb
3 years ago

The air time given to these “experts” is part of the problem. That Devi person is dangerous and annoying to people with any semblance of common sense and perspective and yet she is given a platform to promote unscientific rubbish. As for her public but closed interaction with Bill Gates, the less said about that the better!

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  Grahamb

What is interesting to me is the apparent lack of questions about who this Devi person is, why she is listened to over others and what she’s accomplished that makes her so qualified to lecture society.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Just another WEF Youth Stormtrooper promoted by the Uniparty for ideological purity.

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JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

For goodness sakes man, she’s an anthropologist! How can we not respect that? I gave up on medical doctors a long time ago – fracture an arm, heart flutters, tremors, headaches, whatever the ailment – an anthropologist would always be my first port of call.

Just like the UK’s former and current health minister’s being former bankers, NL’s previous health minister being a primary school teacher – surely these people are the best experts to preach about health and vaccines and the like?

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

Surely, behavioural psychologists should be the go to experts when you’re ill?

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Gefion
Gefion
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

She also seems to be a great pal of Nicola Sturgeon and no doubt contributes to the fact that in Scotland we are still supposed to wear masks in certain circumstances. She appeared from nowhere at the beginning of the Covid business.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  Gefion

That pathetic excuse for a human being has a pal?? Now that’s the scariest comment here today.

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Gefion
Gefion
3 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

More than one I believe but we haven’t seen Jason for a while!

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  Grahamb

A colleague of mine back in the 70s, when we were both working in what was then a reasonably ethical British pharma company shred this gem with me:
“Expert” – an Ex is a has been and a spert is a drip under pressure.

This has never been more true than in the past few years; first with the climate hysterics, then with the Branch Covidians

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

And a “Specialist” is someone who lives a narrow field and knows nothing much about the real world outside.

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itoldyouiwasill
itoldyouiwasill
3 years ago

Well that’s the thing of the modern left isn’t it? Never, ever admit you are wrong on anything – ever. And if anybody tries to argue the toss with you, just cry foul and cancel them!

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  itoldyouiwasill

And they wonder why they never get to control the levers of power unless taken with armed force?!

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Libertarianist
Libertarianist
3 years ago

Rewriting the facts?
How very pre postmodern of you.

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Gregoryno6
Gregoryno6
3 years ago

They’re off to an early start with the revisionism. Ukraine isn’t the distraction they’d hoped for.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

They’re going to need a bigger squirrel.

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TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
3 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

Putin has disappointed by not stopping or being stopped, as TPTB and it’s MSM told us would happen.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago

The Guardian has described back bench MPs who asked the Government to consider the negative effects of non-pharmaceutical interventions as”libertarian crazies”. That seems quite insane so it is no surprise to see the rag churning out this sort of revisionism. Its readers need reassurance that their hysterical behaviour over the last two years has been rational.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago

Masks, lockdowns and the notion that humans are walking biological time bombs weren’t nipped at the bud and we will now have to live with these ideas and fight them pretty much for ever.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Absolutely. The hysterical and ascientific response has caused real harm to our society.

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TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

But political nutcases so enjoy the wonderfully satisfying feeling of ‘actually doing something’ that mandating lockdowns and imprisoning the elderly gives them.
Just be thankful it seems to distract them from doing what they’d really like to do to us.

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chris-ds
chris-ds
3 years ago

Just don’t read the guardian.

it’s free for a reason.

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Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
3 years ago
Reply to  chris-ds

Indeed. It has a very low readership.

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Angel Eco Warrior

Confined to the BBC, school staff rooms and university senior common rooms from what I can see.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Angel Eco Warrior

It’s startling to see just how few eyeballs are being brought to advertisers by most “major” newspapers or legacy media sources like Sky or GB News.

There are UK WuTube vloggers who regularly thrash all of them in listener or viewer numbers, for tuppence in advertising share (if not demonetised).

And yet these massive media dinosaurs keep lumbering on, paying dozens or hundreds of full time staff, funded by something. It’s almost as though they’re more what you’d call vanity projects, or paid propagandists, than actual businesses

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VAX FREE IanC
VAX FREE IanC
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Like the really big dinosaurs of pre history, they have massive appetites which have been fed huge clumps (of our money) by governments and the B&MGF all around the world, to invent, promote and maintain the myth for the masses.
Will it take an asteroid to wipe them out? I wonder.

Last edited 3 years ago by VAX FREE IanC
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TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Paid for by government advertising.

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VAX FREE IanC
VAX FREE IanC
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Angel Eco Warrior

Thankfully. Try “The Light paper” a free paper. thelightpaper.co.ukAn excellent read.All issues available to download as pdf free.

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Occams Pangolin Pie
Occams Pangolin Pie
3 years ago
Reply to  chris-ds

Izal TP was more expensive.
Not as slippery.

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Hester
Hester
3 years ago

The Guardian bought to you by its funder Bill Gates

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Hester

and the Car sales offshore hedge fund.

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Will
Will
3 years ago

I don’t know why anyone bothers reading anything from the Guardian. The paper wouldn’t exist without the vast sums it receives from Gates and the OPP, so is hopelessly compromised in terms of providing a semblance of journalistic objectivity.

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Dave Bollocks
Dave Bollocks
3 years ago

LOL! They never say:

  • That the virus has a 99.9% survival rate
  • Most of the people who died and were infected died ‘with it’ and NOT ‘from it’
  • Most people wore masks and most people caught the virus
  • Children are more likely to be struck by lightening that be killed by this virus and do not need to be vaccinated

Political activists posing as ‘scientists’

And that’s before we talk about ‘climate change’!

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Gregoryno6
Gregoryno6
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Bollocks

Perth MSM are in Sky Is Falling mode because we have 10,000 new cases.
Cases! If the damn virus was half as deadly as they want us to believe you’d never hear a word about cases!

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

The article articulates perfectly what happens when funding becomes the main goal. You don’t stay on the bottom rung if you start bringing in the cash

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RTSC
RTSC
3 years ago

Focused protection was tested and considered plausible by the UK’s Pandemic Plan and the WHO ….. until they both abruptly changed tack to copy Communist China.

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago
Reply to  RTSC

I seem to remember a tv interview where PM Johnson denied having seen or heard of the Great Barrington Declaration. Which would fit with it being smeared, ignored, cancelled by the Covid Technocrats.

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loopDloop
loopDloop
3 years ago

The Guardian. Excuse me for a moment while I laugh hysterically. Ok, I’m back. Where was I. Ah yes, the Guardian. The left. The entire progressive movement. I’d like to sum up my feelings in a single simple pithy statement by the master of hilarious comedy and post-post-modern philosophy, the Maestro, Donald J. Trump: “Everything woke turns to shit”. And there we have it. Also Owen Jones is a whiny brat with a very-punchable face. I don’t mean that as abuse, just a statement of objective fact. And I think I’m done.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

Bravo 👍🤣🤣

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Uncle Monty
Uncle Monty
3 years ago

Sridhar is a Gates funded WEF Young Leader and close friend of Chelsea Clinton. She is a three star general in Lucifer’s Army.
How did she become the go to girl
for advocating measures which inevitably lead to the establishment of the bio security state and the ultimate enslavement of humanity?

https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2018/11/28/global-health-disruptors-the-bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation/

https://www.younggloballeaders.org/new-class?utf8=✓&region=a0Tb00000000DCLEA2

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annieob
annieob
3 years ago

This unpleasant series of Guardian articles matters a lot. Why? Because although the Guardian’s readership is small, it includes a very significant proportion of people who have a very significant (and disproportionate) influence on public policy in the UK – for instance senior civil servants, academics, NHS leaders, senior lawyers.

DS should commission a series of articles by scientists, statisticians & medics (not polemicists or journalists) taking down these articles one by one. Because the Guardian articles – misleading as they are – will have a really pernicious effect if not properly challenged. There’s a reason they’re banging this drum so loudly at this stage.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  annieob

People who read the grauniad should get a P45.

Should put a self sign p45 in the Grauniad for anyone reading it.

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TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
3 years ago
Reply to  annieob

It is the house magazine of Common Purpose.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

a virus was very timely for the Guardian, it was about to go under, still got the begging bowl

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
3 years ago

A massive percentage of their readers are teachers.
Unfortunately they are the ones mainly responsible for educating kids.
Perhaps this goes a long way into explaining why there seems to be a dearth of critical thinking amongst the young.
Kids are not taught to challenge anything at school – and when they get home, well, there’s always the BBC.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

No offence taken; 👨‍🏫 I sort-of agree and I am one. Certainly agree that critical thinking is discouraged by most teachers and most certainly by the system itself. Because of exams, there’s more critical thinking in primary school than there is in Key Stage 4 or 5.

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TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

Any child asking a question is likely to be ignored or told to stop interrupting, because any child, bright enough to ask a question, is going to be more intelligent than a teacher pushing the big narrative.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

Your point is well made. A friend has just retireed after 26 years as a science teacher at a grammar school. What is he going to enjoy most about retirement? “Not having to bite my tongue when talking about so called climate change”. It’s all about the approved narrative.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago

This sets the scene for all of the covid inquiries etc.

At a fundamental level the basis for all of the responses will be taken as fact; lockdowns work, facemasks are great, vaccines are effective, etc etc.

The discussion will only be on the detail — were our lockdowns a bit too harsh, a bit too late; did we encourage the wrong type of facemask or muck up procurement of PPE; etc etc.

What is needed is analysis at a fundamental level, that’s not frightened to say that an aspect of the response was a complete and utter disaster that ended up causing immense harm (including deaths) to the population that’ll continue to have impacts for years.

I’d like one question to be asked above all about any of the individual aspect of the covid threat response — were decisions made early on about the covid response, whether NPI or medical, that were then maintained throughout (at least until vaccines came) because it suited the people in charge (and did they try to justify this by using the ‘public confidence’ argument — which is always what politicians use to suppress information about how they’ve seriously mucked things up).

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

Well as you know, like climate change, the science is settled. It said so on the BBC, or was it The Guardian?

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PartyTime
PartyTime
3 years ago

The immunocompromised continue to be used as a reason for others to mask up – it’s doing them no favours, they shouldn’t be circulating at all if they are that vulnerable, at best it’s giving them a false sense of security.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  PartyTime

Well take it from me, as someone who takes an arthritis drug and has a slightly compromised immune system, I’m tired of being used as an excuse to prolong this nightmare. I haven’t once worn a mask, neither did I hysterically socially distance, sanitise and all the rest. I’ve hugged people and lived normally, only taking the precautions I’ve always done which affect no one. I do NOT expect anyone to have do anything to “protect” me. And the fearful narrative-followers are shocked! I’ve been on the receiving end of comments like “you should stay at home!” And “you SHOULD wear a mask to protect you!” The funny thing is all those people bleating about their safety and what everyone should do, have all been ill, all testing to make SURE it is covid, whereas I haven’t been ill once.

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John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

I twice tried to hug or shake hands and was rebuffed. A very offputting experience …

I was last ill in 1977 – that one was ‘Russian flu’ – and mysteriously I’ve been unaffected by this bug too. Maybe I’ve caught the right kind of coronavirus colds in my 68 yrs of life … who knows.

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VAX FREE IanC
VAX FREE IanC
3 years ago
Reply to  John001

You tried to hug or shake hands with the wrong people. Have you a SITP near you? If so, and you pop along on a Sunday morning, you’ll meet wonderful free thinkers who are always happy to hug, smile and shake hands.

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Will
Will
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Exactly our situation, as a family, with an immunocompromised child. And we are all unvaccinated as well, wryly amused to see all the vaccinated people catching covid again and again and again. Original Antigenic Sin in action. Kier Starmer must be due yet another dose…

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TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
3 years ago
Reply to  Will

More like a Scicilian Embolism for his part in our troubles.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  Will

Of the clap??

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imp66
imp66
3 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

There’s Labour’s new election mantra :
” Clap for Kier”!

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  PartyTime

Their real problem is that they believe it does any good, especially with the junk worn by the general public.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

more than 2,000 people have died directly as a result of a Covid jab. The MHRA itself says these figures could be only 10 per cent of the actual numbers. Maybe people like my uncle, 95, died 2 weeks after his jab, and my aunt who had dementia died 2 weeks after her jab. How would we know? The bottom line is that excess deaths are on a par with a bad flu year when they said the flu jab had been the wrong one.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

The MHRA say “could be” because they have no idea. They AREN’T bothering to investigate in any detail, the possible vaccine-related deaths.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Nothing can be proved without a post mortem

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paul parmenter
paul parmenter
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

And how many of those have there been? Anyone heard any results from any of them?

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TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

No post morgen, no proof it was the vax.
QED. Big Pharma wins again.
Politicians in the clear, with money in envelopes.

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TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Taunton hospital refused to do autopsies on sudden deaths.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

All deaths covered by plausible deniability.

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VAX FREE IanC
VAX FREE IanC
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Most deaths in the public arena now described as, “died suddenly” or “natural causes” and followed by… silence.
Not so long ago the death of any public figure would have attracted full and even ghoulish detail and attention in the MSM. They would have insisted on their readers/viewers right to know.

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TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
3 years ago
Reply to  VAX FREE IanC

But no MPs or senior civil servants have suddenly dropped dead since vax I got started. Does this suggest –
1) they are remarkably or unusually healthy?
2) they didn’t get the jab designed for the sheeple?
3) they haven’t been jabbed at all?
Just asking, not starting a conspiracy. Honest.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  TheRightToArmBears

Certainly not 1), most unlikely to be 2) so the answer has to be 3) 🤣🤣

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Occams Pangolin Pie
Occams Pangolin Pie
3 years ago

The Guardian’s fantasy pull out and keep Covid Pandemic Jubilee Souvenir Special is reminiscent of red top Royal Wedding Funeral Forelock tugging Full Colour Freebies of the Past. Will all school kids get a souvenir Zero Covid Guardian mug or a Chinese made badge saying Don’t be an Agenda Bender to treasure in a shoe box until the crystal in your palm goes red. it’s rather a desperate mass formation puff piece. The Guardian storytellers and academic contributors are preaching to their zombie public funded flocks, who are unfortunately starting to hear other disturbing and long suppressed narratives. The Guardian agenda is the journalistic equivalent of cuddly Herr Fritzl ‘Nothing but devastation and stupidity up here, mein liebling. We’re all safer downstairs. Work from the Cellars keeps me safe…’

Meanwhile anyone who went on a London march last year will remember the uplifting and joyful presence of the Tyburn Nuns on their steps. A great article in Conservative Woman describes something of a run in they are having with the Vatican, now rebranded as the religious wing of Pfizer Moderna. Hope you can read it.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Occams Pangolin Pie

Excellent article in TCW on the Tyburn Nuns and their upcoming battles with the Satanic Church of Rome.

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Aleajactaest
Aleajactaest
3 years ago

Grauniad – lies.

In other news, sun rises in the east, more at 11.

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Steven Robinson
Steven Robinson
3 years ago

On immunity and rewriting history, the WHO changed the definition to something like ‘Herd immunity’, also known as ‘population immunity’, is a concept used for vaccination, in which a population can be protected from a certain virus if a threshold of vaccination is reached. Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it.
Given that the covid vaccines are now admitted to be gene therapy and do nothing to confer immunity, will the old definition be reinstated?

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

Grauniad “wrong about everything, all the time”.

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Doom Slayer
Doom Slayer
3 years ago

I take it these people have never heard of influenza. Or ever looked at the stats for how many can die in a year from it. Imagine the numbers within 28 days of a +ve flu/cold test. These clowns are ideologues and zealots who literally couldnt care less about facts and figures. They will never change their opinions. They are control freaks and the types of people who are causing untold misery around the world. I wish I didnt have to live around them (a massive majority being lefties and remainers imo)

Last edited 3 years ago by Doom Slayer
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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago

Liars lie. It doesn’t help when the heads of most governments and their henchmen and women are past masters of the dark arts.

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dearieme
dearieme
3 years ago

The man who expects high standards of honesty and propriety from Harvard academics has doomed himself to a lifetime of disappointment.

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RW
RW
3 years ago

The problem with these guys is that they’re convinced to belong to a master race to whose members the usual, human limitations don’t apply: As group, they’re infallible. Individual members of this group may well make errors, however, regardless of the problem, there’s always a correct solution which can always be determined without errors and implemented without principal flaws and which will always come from group itself. Because of this, its members have the universe(climate?)-given right to do with everyone else whatever damn well pleases them and said everyone-else with their pesky, private consideration are hereby unkindly ordered to hold their tongues about that.

This idea is obviously fundamentally incompatible with that of a pluralistic society, where nothing anyone is really convinced of can ever truly be taken for granted because each and every of its members is prone to both errors of judgement and of execution, ie trying to do the wrong thing or trying to do the right thing in a wrong way. It’s as obviously fundamentally incompatible with the notion of human rights all people are equally entitled to. The inferior species humans must not have such rights as this would limit what the master race humans may to do them in order to execute their masterplans.

Considering that pluralistic society and human rights are the cornerstones of so-called democracy, these people are necessarily anti-democrats at heart and seek to subvert the democratic process in order to overcome democracy itself. But only in the true best interest of the people, so, that’s ok then.

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MikeHaseler
MikeHaseler
3 years ago

It’s the Guardian … where it is 1st of April every day.

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Draper233
Draper233
3 years ago

Based on Will’s synopsis, it would appear that this Spinney woman is even more demented than the Devil Sridhar herself.

Get these two lunatics into their padded cells and let them rattle on to their heart’s content.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago

It’s the Grauniad’s version of spaghetti trees

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wryobserver
wryobserver
3 years ago

Grahamb’s first sentence is the key when he puts the word experts into quotes. They are and always have been the wrong experts. An anthropologist commenting on clinical matters? Where are the expert clinicians? It remains a bone of contention with me that even now the narrative largely excludes what really matters – if you get severe Covid-19, are you going to get the right treatment? Indeed even earlier in the evolution of infection, are you going to get the right investigations that will confirm or deny that you are in the process of becoming seriously ill? Anthropologists and statisticians can’t possibly answer these questions so it’s time for the media to ditch them and approach the right experts. As a (retired) specialist in the management of immune-mediated illnesses I put myself forward once more. Meanwhile I recommend Mark Woolhouse’s book “The Year The World Went Mad” for an honest and readable insight into epidemiology.even if there isn’t anything about clinical management.

Bottom line: if an infection doesn’t make you seriously ill it doesn’t signify.

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TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
3 years ago
Reply to  wryobserver

If your immune system doesn’t get challenged by new bugs then it goes to sleep and will fade away. Then you really are in danger.
Masks, vaxxes, lockdowns will kill you sooner than a non-existent ‘virus’.

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Andy R
Andy R
3 years ago

If the conclusion is that it is because some countries did not conform to the zero covid policy. Then in essence this article is pushing the new centralised WHO world pandemic control plan which is global control through the back door. The new world order is strong at the guardian.

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TheEngineer
TheEngineer
3 years ago

It is sad indeed that these idiots and charlatans continue to be fed the oxygen of publicity whilst real facts are blocked.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago

Unusually, both MacKenzie and Spinney have science degrees. Obviously however, they have both forgotten what they have learnt in favour of producing political tripe. As to be expected from the Grauniad.

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TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
3 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

Buckets of ready cash, payable in any bank anywhere on the world, is a great amnesiac.

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bowlsman
bowlsman
3 years ago

You could do something useful with this paper. Cut it into squares and hang it on a nail in the toilet.

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  bowlsman

Or shred it up and add it to a compost heap.

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago

“Every man has his price. For some it’s money, for some it’s women, for others glory. But the honest man you don’t have to buy – he winds up costing you nothing.”

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Owens57
Owens57
3 years ago

The many people whose age or medical condition makes them more likely to die if [infected], or who have suppressed immunity – perhaps only because they need an arthritis drug – cannot take ‘personal responsibility’ for avoiding Covid if they must return to the office, surrounded by maskless people exercising their ‘individual freedom’ to exhale asymptomatic Omicron.” 

I find this is so condescending and more fearmongering BS. This is me! immunocompromised because of an arthritis drug. Did anyone consider people like me before covid? No, of course not, and why should they? I do not need or want anyone restricting their own lives and freedoms for my benefit. It’s my problem always was and always will be. I never wore a mask and I haven’t had the vaccine. Figured I’m already injecting myself with poison once a week!

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Nobody2021
Nobody2021
3 years ago

Hanage is one of those who goes running/jogging in a mask and posts on Twitter that he’s doing so for the benefit of mankind.

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imp66
imp66
3 years ago

Shridar should be right at the front of the queue when retribution is dished out!

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago

The Guardian Rewrites the Facts
This is a headline?
Oh, I get it! April fools!

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