In a chilling crackdown on free speech, two police officers have shown up at a grandmother’s door – her crime? Criticising Labour politicians on Facebook. The Mail has more.
Detectives were last night accused of acting like East Germany’s feared Stasi secret police for quizzing Helen Jones over her calls for the resignation of local councillors embroiled in the WhatsApp scandal exposed by the Mail on Sunday. …
Toby Young, Director of the Free Speech Union, said: “This is typical of the weird authoritarian atmosphere that has grown up in Britain since Sir Keir Starmer took control. Good luck persuading Greater Manchester Police to send two police officers to your house if you’re burgled or your car is stolen.” …
The two plain-clothes officers arrived at Mrs Jones’s home and demanded to talk to her after she commented on the offensive messages shared in a Labour WhatsApp group that the Mail on Sunday exposed this month. Our story led to the sacking of Health minister Andrew Gwynne and the suspension of Burnley MP Oliver Ryan and 11 Labour councillors.
Police knocked on her door in Stockport within 48 hours of receiving a complaint, in contrast to how they have responded to other crime reports. Mrs Jones, a school administrator, said police failed to investigate a spate of car thefts in the surrounding streets last year. …
In the wake of the scandal, Mrs Jones repeatedly posted that Cllr Sedgwick must resign from his Heatons North seat on a closed Facebook group called 4Heatons Hub, and another publicly available page called Reddish Matters.
In one post on 4Heatons Hub, Mrs Jones said of Cllr Sedgwick: “Let’s hope he does the decent thing and resigns. I somehow think his ego won’t allow it.” In another, after posting screenshots from the Trigger Me Timbers group, Mrs Jones wrote: “Not looking good for Cllr Sedgwick!!!” to which another member added: “Cllr Sedgwick, will you be resigning?”
At around 1.30pm last Tuesday, while Mrs Jones was looking after her baby grandson at a nearby house, a detective sergeant and another officer knocked at her door and spoke to her husband Lee, 54, via an intercom.
A shocked Mrs Jones rushed home fearing something tragic had happened to a loved one. At 2.15pm she received a phone call from an officer thought to be the same sergeant who knocked on her door and was told the police had received a complaint about her recent social media posts.
Speaking exclusively to the MoS, she said: “[The officer] said, ‘We’ve had a complaint,’ and I immediately asked, ‘From who?’ and he said, ‘Well, I can’t tell you that.’”
She asked if Cllr Sedgwick or his partner had made the complaint. “[The officer’s] exact words were ‘Your thought process is correct in that,’” said Mrs Jones. “I asked the police officer, have I committed any sort of crime. Why did you call at my door? They said, ‘Someone has spoken to us about your social media posts.’
“I then said, ‘If I don’t take your advice and continue doing what I am doing, will I be committing a crime?’ He said no. I then asked. ‘What will you do about it?’ He said, ‘There’s not a lot we can do, we are just giving you advice.’” …
After six minutes, Mrs Jones hung up, furious that she was made to feel like a criminal in front of her husband and four children. She said: “It was actually quite scary. I’m living my life day to day, law-abiding, and then suddenly I’ve got the police at the door showing a warrant card.”
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I wonder if anybody has complained to the police about the Daily Sceptic yet.
We regularly express our sentiments about the marxo-fascist left and its agents in Britain.
Hi 77th. Here are a few from me: there are only two genders. A man cannot change into women; neither can a woman change into a man. The Covid vaccines were neither safe nor efficient.
Yes well said. Toby argues “This is typical of the weird authoritarian atmosphere that has grown up in Britain since Sir Keir Starmer took control”
This authoritarianism started with the fake Tory Party and let us never forget this.
Are we really supposed to believe they are police simply on the basis of that warrant card? It looks like the sort of thing anyone could knock up in their back room. I would definitely be concerned about letting them into my house regardless of what they were claiming. It’s exactly the sort of scam old ladies are constantly warned about, isn’t it?
The Mail also has a piece on Dorset councillors avoiding a public meeting to defend their policy on wasting money on rarely used cycle lanes and other dumb traffic schemes. Police advised them it might be a safety risk.
Any plod worth his salt could only be deeply, deeply embarrassed at taking taxpayers money for doing garbage such as this. But I suppose any opportunity to turn the public even more anti plod has to be taken by TPTB.
His Lordship the Mayor of Manchester, Andy Burnham was unavailable.
Mogwai
3 months ago
It’s a case of “Same sh*t, different country” in Russia, meanwhile. Though I am impressed with the novelty snow-women and attention to detail here
“Russia has decided to prosecute a 26-y-o woman for “hate speech” after she organized a protest with friends against the planned construction of a mosque in her town in Perm for recently arrived migrants.
The crime was that the protesters made snowmen dressed in niqabs.”
Misgendering the ‘snowpeople’…I don’t know. Actually, they could almost be Daleks if they had sink plungers for noses. And I’m not sure what pronouns those intergalactic villains would use nowadays…
Jacqui
3 months ago
Labour Scum.
Climan
3 months ago
I suggest laughter rather than outrage in response to this kind of thing. Have the following song (The Laughing Policeman) ready to play on your phone:
Tik Tok are quite big on censorship. Commenting on many farmers who all are angry with Labour, I often mention the links between Agenda 2030 and Green policies. This time I just called them a nasty motley crew to which they took my post down for violation “community standards”.
klf
3 months ago
And the police wonder why increasingly, they are despised.
It is the establishment parties that have played the police to further their globalist and woke agendas.
Those who vote for establishment parties have all contributed in creating this authoritarian tyranny.
djg682
3 months ago
Questions haven’t be asked of the people reporting this and why the police acted as they did.
They do what they do presumably because the corrupt, evil, political establishment are using them to further their globalist, woke agenda.
Accepted in this case no crime had been committed but I tend to think it is the politicians who put pressure on the police to ‘give advice’ to people as part of using fear to control people. It is downright evil and the only way to stop this intimidation is to root ot this cancer by stopping voting for all establishment politicians – Lib/Lab/Con/Green.
Last edited 2 months ago by Smudger
sailorashore
3 months ago
But she gets a NCHI recorded, does she work in a school etc..
soundofreason
3 months ago
She asked if Cllr Sedgwick or his partner had made the complaint. “[The officer’s] exact words were ‘Your thought process is correct in that,’” said Mrs Jones. “I asked the police officer, have I committed any sort of crime. Why did you call at my door? They said, ‘Someone has spoken to us about your social media posts.’
“I then said, ‘If I don’t take your advice and continue doing what I am doing, will I be committing a crime?’ He said no. I then asked. ‘What will you do about it?’ He said, ‘There’s not a lot we can do, we are just giving you advice.’” …
What brilliant questions she asked. I hope I would be that focused under similar circumstances.
Great clarity of thought I agree. The real question for me is, if the police have time to do this, then I assume they’ve solved all the other ‘actual’ crime?
Could she not report the police for their much more hurty and aggressive behaviour towards her?
Last edited 3 months ago by Epi
Simon
3 months ago
I can’t see any problem with what she wrote. Did the Cllr involve the PCC?
Twm Morgan
3 months ago
Greater Manchester Police:
As thick as hits and very nasty!
Don’t you just love the way they keep on coming back for more!
If they ever turned up at my door (they are most welcome to try!) I’d tell them to plod off with their Stalinist ideas and find a real job.
Last edited 3 months ago by Twm Morgan
Covid-1984
3 months ago
What’s the name of the faux policeman outside her house? He’s offending me and I want him visited.
coviture2020
3 months ago
“Leaned on” is the term
Itsherlock
2 months ago
This is what the stooges in the UK voted for. Europeans hate freedom of speech.
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1984
“In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.”
“Nineteen Eighty-Four” says Mr Pedant….
Clearly if anyone*special* was reading these comments I clearly was not referring to the book.
Without the funny bits!
I wonder if anybody has complained to the police about the Daily Sceptic yet.
We regularly express our sentiments about the marxo-fascist left and its agents in Britain.
Well, just in case they are: ‘Hi 77th. Tell me, which is worse to work for? Tory Scum or Labour Scum?’
Hi 77th. Here are a few from me: there are only two genders. A man cannot change into women; neither can a woman change into a man. The Covid vaccines were neither safe nor efficient.
They could say, since they are two cheeks of the same backside, there is not a lot of difference.
Just a crack between them.
And that’s where the Lib Dems are
Yes well said. Toby argues “This is typical of the weird authoritarian atmosphere that has grown up in Britain since Sir Keir Starmer took control”
This authoritarianism started with the fake Tory Party and let us never forget this.
Are we really supposed to believe they are police simply on the basis of that warrant card? It looks like the sort of thing anyone could knock up in their back room. I would definitely be concerned about letting them into my house regardless of what they were claiming. It’s exactly the sort of scam old ladies are constantly warned about, isn’t it?
Bloke with the glasses looks decidedly dodgy.
Bad enough if it had been a beat plod, but TWO detectives? Seriously??
I wonder how many burglaries they had to ignore or declare they had no resources to pursue in order to prioritise this farce.
Good point.
The Mail also has a piece on Dorset councillors avoiding a public meeting to defend their policy on wasting money on rarely used cycle lanes and other dumb traffic schemes. Police advised them it might be a safety risk.
What utter pathetic wankers.
Any plod worth his salt could only be deeply, deeply embarrassed at taking taxpayers money for doing garbage such as this. But I suppose any opportunity to turn the public even more anti plod has to be taken by TPTB.
His Lordshipthe Mayor of Manchester, Andy Burnham was unavailable.It’s a case of “Same sh*t, different country” in Russia, meanwhile. Though I am impressed with the novelty snow-women and attention to detail here
“Russia has decided to prosecute a 26-y-o woman for “hate speech” after she organized a protest with friends against the planned construction of a mosque in her town in Perm for recently arrived migrants.
The crime was that the protesters made snowmen dressed in niqabs.”
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1893661246148202579
I should hope so too!
Everyone knows that snowmen don’t wear niqabs. Only snowwomen.
How did they know they were snowMEN?
Misgendering the ‘snowpeople’…I don’t know.
Actually, they could almost be Daleks if they had sink plungers for noses.
And I’m not sure what pronouns those intergalactic villains would use nowadays…
Labour Scum.
I suggest laughter rather than outrage in response to this kind of thing. Have the following song (The Laughing Policeman) ready to play on your phone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhDKnRSMAwQ
https://youtu.be/5SQdBxVjZx4?si=_ir0uj0RzdxmiXGE
Brilliant love it!
Tik Tok are quite big on censorship. Commenting on many farmers who all are angry with Labour, I often mention the links between Agenda 2030 and Green policies. This time I just called them a nasty motley crew to which they took my post down for violation “community standards”.
And the police wonder why increasingly, they are despised.
Just wait until they need help from the public.
It is the establishment parties that have played the police to further their globalist and woke agendas.
Those who vote for establishment parties have all contributed in creating this authoritarian tyranny.
Questions haven’t be asked of the people reporting this and why the police acted as they did.
We’re not allowed to know who reported this.
They do what they do presumably because the corrupt, evil, political establishment are using them to further their globalist, woke agenda.
Accepted in this case no crime had been committed but I tend to think it is the politicians who put pressure on the police to ‘give advice’ to people as part of using fear to control people. It is downright evil and the only way to stop this intimidation is to root ot this cancer by stopping voting for all establishment politicians – Lib/Lab/Con/Green.
But she gets a NCHI recorded, does she work in a school etc..
What brilliant questions she asked. I hope I would be that focused under similar circumstances.
Great clarity of thought I agree. The real question for me is, if the police have time to do this, then I assume they’ve solved all the other ‘actual’ crime?
All of this just fuels the outrage that promotes Farage and Reform, and with luck will hastem the demise of these pillock despots.
I hope she took their name and number to post who the hurty police were on social media.
Could she not report the police for their much more hurty and aggressive behaviour towards her?
I can’t see any problem with what she wrote. Did the Cllr involve the PCC?
Greater Manchester Police:
As thick as hits and very nasty!
Don’t you just love the way they keep on coming back for more!
If they ever turned up at my door (they are most welcome to try!) I’d tell them to plod off with their Stalinist ideas and find a real job.
What’s the name of the faux policeman outside her house? He’s offending me and I want him visited.
“Leaned on” is the term
This is what the stooges in the UK voted for. Europeans hate freedom of speech.