A Labour Minister has been given the boot after the Mail on Sunday exposed his racist and sexist WhatsApp messages, including one saying he hoped a pensioner who didn’t vote Labour would drop dead before the next election. Here’s an excerpt:
Andrew Gwynne also made antisemitic slights and ‘jokes’ about a constituent being “mown down” by a truck.
Keir Starmer stripped Mr Gwynne of his job as Health Minister and suspended his membership of the Labour Party when he was told about the content of the WhatsApp messages yesterday. Meanwhile, the MP himself apologised for his “badly misjudged comments”. …
In one particularly shocking comment, the Gorton and Denton MP says he hopes a 72 year-old woman will soon be dead after she dared to ask about her bins. …
After the councillor shared the letter among fellow Labour figures in the WhatsApp group, Mr Gwynne wrote a suggested response: “Dear resident, F*** your bins. I’m re-elected and without your vote. Screw you. PS: Hopefully you’ll have croaked it by the all-outs.” ‘All-outs’ are elections at which every council seat is contested at once.
Accepting his fate last night, Mr Gwynne wrote on social media: “I deeply regret my badly misjudged comments and apologise for any offence I’ve caused. I’ve served the Labour Party all my life and it was a huge honour to be appointed a minister by Keir Starmer. I entirely understand the decisions the PM and the party have taken and, while very sad to have been suspended, will support them in any way I can.”
The messages were exchanged in a group called Trigger Me Timbers, which Mr Gwynne shares with more than a dozen Labour councillors, party officials and at least one other MP, all based on the outskirts of Manchester.
The MoS gained access to thousands of messages from the closed group, which was set up in 2019, and discovered a barrage of abusive texts. Among them are:
Mr Gwynne saying someone “sounds too Jewish” and “too militaristic”, apparently from their name alone
Racist comments about veteran Labour MP Diane Abbott, mocking her historic achievement in becoming the first black MP at either Despatch Box for Prime Minister’s Questions
Sexist comments about Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner performing a sex act
Mr Gwynne mocking a local Labour leader as “Colin C*mface”
The politician also made offensive remarks about Jewish people.
Discussing an upcoming Labour meeting, a member of the group asks if Marshall Rosenberg would be there, in apparent reference to a late American psychologist whose conflict management techniques might have been useful in heated debates. Mr Gwynne responds: “No. He sounds too militaristic and too Jewish. Is he in Mossad?”
In 2018, Mr Gwynne made headlines when it was revealed he was in a Facebook group called Labour Supporters in which antisemitic messages were shared. At the time he responded: “I was added to this Facebook group without my knowledge or permission. I DO NOT support the posts and I ABHOR antisemitism. It has absolutely NO place in the Labour Party or in society. End of.”
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I disagree with the personal messages bit,
someone in his position should be painfully aware than no comments on the Internet are personal anymore, saying anything online or on here is not personal, whisper it in someone’s ear if you want it to be personal.
At least now his future job,if any,will be emptying bins not joking about them!
Quite agree, Dings. Nothing’s personal once it’s out there on t’internet. If these had been posted on social media then things might have been even worse for him. As you say, say what you like among friends in person or on a call, but politicians should be held to a higher standard than other people. The guy comes across as a Grade A dickwad. A nasty pasty indeed. Just one among many, though, when it comes to that godawful party.
Oh yes punish a man who utters a few words, yes let’s punish him. Meanwhile your current gov’t removed winter fuel allowance to thousands of elderly, placed vat on private school fees, slapped inheritance tax on the people who grow our food, and wrote an online safety act to prevent you from free speech, jailed people for writing something on social media. But yes, by all means let’s punish the mp who uttered a few words. The Uk is a joke.
And Sir Two-Tier has the sheer blind effrontery to bleat on about the Far Right.
Pure comedy gold. Cosmic Political Sketchwriter on good form.
Most insightful thing to come out of Labour Head Office since Not Flash Gordon and the recording device left on in the official limo outside the loyal Labour voter’s house.
Last edited 3 months ago by Art Simtotic
Jeff Chambers
3 months ago
Wonderful to see a madleft lump of slime slithering out into the daylight.
Yes, he needs maximum humiliation, that one. I hope he gets lots of flack from the public as a result of this. He might want to leave the house wearing a disguise or lay low for a while..until the next Labour scandal takes the heat off him.
MajorMajor
3 months ago
Ladies and gentlemen: what this episode reveals is the true, unfiltered nature of the Left.
The views of this guy are not an anomaly, not specific to one rogue individual, not some silly careless remark after a beer too many.
No. These are the views of most leftist politicians.
If anybody thinks that Marx, Lenin, Mao gave a monkey’s about the working class, just look at the fruits of their actions.
I have it on extremely good authority that Debbie Abrahams MP, Oldham East and Saddleworth, who relies on the muslim vote for her election and particularly the muslim bloc postal vote actually detests the people she relies on for her life of luxury.
This will drive the Anti-white Party (the Labour Party) into paroxysms of anger, fear, and despair. And our anti-white government will rush to introduce Muslim blasphemy laws, and to demonise patriots and supporters of free-speech.
Indeed. Further to my post on loonies running around with knives and chasing girls in Reading the other day, this one’s been caught. By members of the public, I hasten to add. Looks like your typical Labour voter, if not then one of these Muslim independents will welcome him, I’m sure;
”You may have seen my story about an armed man allegedly chasing after women and girls in Reading.
He was caught by two locals with a massive knife on him and is in custody.”
The muslim vote has decided to cut out the middle man ie Labour and take the gravy for themselves. It’s already happened in Oldham. I posted on here months ago that if there is another GE the Labour Party will be toast because they are loosing the muzzie vote in vast numbers.
I’m guessing that’s why they’ve gone ‘warp speed’ in the brown-nosing department with all of this talk of ”Islamophobia” and further censorship. Reminds me of this;
I wonder how common is this disdain for vaters in MPs of all stripes. It has floated to the top in this case, as it did with G Brown and the “bigotted woman”.
Massive given they only have to be nice to us once every 5 years. Note how completely detached the vast majority are from the views of the ordinary people – you know, the Far Right. Probably 90% favour doing nothing on immigration for a start.
‘start pandering’? They have been doing that for years as they ignore the rape gangs.
EppingBlogger
3 months ago
Seems to me there are more grounds to prosecute this man tan the hundreds (?) wo were persecuted for posting about the murder, many of whom turned out to be right and the government’s spin was wrong.
A YouTuber who made humorous if impolite comments like the lovely Mr Andrew Gwynne has made (but in his case about our Great Leader) was arrested last week and held In a Police cell overnight. I presume Mr Gwynne will be likewise arrested later tonight….
Last edited 3 months ago by Hardliner
EppingBlogger
3 months ago
He is a nasty piece of work. I hope he never comes back to public life.
minkybink
3 months ago
It was Judge Tan Ikram who boasted of imprisoning those policemen for exactly this. Will this case go to court, with T.I. as the judge? Don’t hold your breath.
This news has been a bit of a shock to me – I don’t mean about most MPs being two-faced, lying, greedy, self-serving slime bags – but that it is about him. I always thought he was a decent, honest, hardworking individual, one of the rare gems, who frequent the halls of Westminster. He is not. He is a great disappointment. I am also disappointed with myself. I thought I was a better judge of character in identifying such folk but I have failed myself.
Marialta
3 months ago
My first reaction to these WhatsApp messages is how unbelievably childish…. How ignorant not to know WhatsApp isn’t safe too. What kind of calibre are these people given power over us? A grown man pissing about on his phone about old people and their dustbins says it all.
AnneCW
3 months ago
I smiled at a couple of the remarks. It’s not appropriate for an MP to express them in a shareable medium, so I suppose the punishment was warranted, but I don’t want my ‘side’ becoming as humourless as the other.
marebobowl
3 months ago
Oh dear, no one dose has uttered the few words this man did. He is the drip, drip, feature of tge news the past few days. Don’t worry britain. Rome is burning but your best and brightest are very busy crucifying a Mp who uttered a few words. The country is a shambles.
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Actually pretty funny really. I don’t think he should be punished for private messages between friends.
He should be punished for being a slimy, hypocritical, corrupt bastard though.
I disagree with the personal messages bit,
someone in his position should be painfully aware than no comments on the Internet are personal anymore, saying anything online or on here is not personal, whisper it in someone’s ear if you want it to be personal.
At least now his future job,if any,will be emptying bins not joking about them!
Quite agree, Dings. Nothing’s personal once it’s out there on t’internet. If these had been posted on social media then things might have been even worse for him. As you say, say what you like among friends in person or on a call, but politicians should be held to a higher standard than other people. The guy comes across as a Grade A dickwad. A nasty pasty indeed. Just one among many, though, when it comes to that godawful party.
And his penalty…six months on the back benches for being naughty and then a nice, quiet sinecure. Or a quick shunt to the Lords.
He needs pelted with rotten cabbages by his neighbours and slung in the back of a bin lorry, off to the land fill. Arse-weasel.
And the loss of salary, with more to come if he’s expelled from the Party and won’t be elected again at the next GE.
Nah! They wil find him a quango job. His future iis assured just as they did for Stephen Byers.
“I’ve served the Labour Party all my life”
What he really meant was…
“I’ve taken the piss and filled my pockets all my life.”
Oh yes punish a man who utters a few words, yes let’s punish him. Meanwhile your current gov’t removed winter fuel allowance to thousands of elderly, placed vat on private school fees, slapped inheritance tax on the people who grow our food, and wrote an online safety act to prevent you from free speech, jailed people for writing something on social media. But yes, by all means let’s punish the mp who uttered a few words. The Uk is a joke.
Malcolm Tucker MP
Except he’s worse than Tucker, he was only fictional.
And Sir Two-Tier has the sheer blind effrontery to bleat on about the Far Right.
Pure comedy gold. Cosmic Political Sketchwriter on good form.
Most insightful thing to come out of Labour Head Office since Not Flash Gordon and the recording device left on in the official limo outside the loyal Labour voter’s house.
Wonderful to see a madleft lump of slime slithering out into the daylight.
Yes, he needs maximum humiliation, that one. I hope he gets lots of flack from the public as a result of this. He might want to leave the house wearing a disguise or lay low for a while..until the next Labour scandal takes the heat off him.
Ladies and gentlemen: what this episode reveals is the true, unfiltered nature of the Left.
The views of this guy are not an anomaly, not specific to one rogue individual, not some silly careless remark after a beer too many.
No. These are the views of most leftist politicians.
If anybody thinks that Marx, Lenin, Mao gave a monkey’s about the working class, just look at the fruits of their actions.
I have it on extremely good authority that Debbie Abrahams MP, Oldham East and Saddleworth, who relies on the muslim vote for her election and particularly the muslim bloc postal vote actually detests the people she relies on for her life of luxury.
Yes we can see how Union members attack people as ‘Far Right’, who want control of our boarders.
And which is the Nasty Party again?
Well here’s an ‘interesting’ party;
”Pro Islam party launched in Birmingham
Notorious Islamic Lawyer Akhmed Yakoob and ‘muslim activist’ Shakeel Afsar have started the INDEPENDENT CANDIATE ALLIANCE
– They will be targeting the Muslim Bloc vote
– Expect Labour to start pandering heavily to keep them on side”
https://x.com/Basil_TGMD/status/1888305927746437423
This will drive the Anti-white Party (the Labour Party) into paroxysms of anger, fear, and despair. And our anti-white government will rush to introduce Muslim blasphemy laws, and to demonise patriots and supporters of free-speech.
Already happening and will inevitably get worse.
Indeed. Further to my post on loonies running around with knives and chasing girls in Reading the other day, this one’s been caught. By members of the public, I hasten to add. Looks like your typical Labour voter, if not then one of these Muslim independents will welcome him, I’m sure;
”You may have seen my story about an armed man allegedly chasing after women and girls in Reading.
He was caught by two locals with a massive knife on him and is in custody.”
https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1888543090740191736
While it would actually help them if they criticised them more, and ended the Woke mind virus. But that won’t happen.
The muslim vote has decided to cut out the middle man ie Labour and take the gravy for themselves. It’s already happened in Oldham. I posted on here months ago that if there is another GE the Labour Party will be toast because they are loosing the muzzie vote in vast numbers.
I’m guessing that’s why they’ve gone ‘warp speed’ in the brown-nosing department with all of this talk of ”Islamophobia” and further censorship. Reminds me of this;
https://x.com/dsisme48/status/1888546985302536409
I wonder how common is this disdain for vaters in MPs of all stripes. It has floated to the top in this case, as it did with G Brown and the “bigotted woman”.
Massive given they only have to be nice to us once every 5 years. Note how completely detached the vast majority are from the views of the ordinary people – you know, the Far Right. Probably 90% favour doing nothing on immigration for a start.
True and we sometimes forget that the Muslim vote is made up of different who hate each other as well.
‘start pandering’? They have been doing that for years as they ignore the rape gangs.
Seems to me there are more grounds to prosecute this man tan the hundreds (?) wo were persecuted for posting about the murder, many of whom turned out to be right and the government’s spin was wrong.
He is completely safe as they dare not hold a bye bye election. They must be dreading any of their MPs dying, especially in a Red Wall seat.
So that makes three ministers gone from the Student Union government already.
A YouTuber who made humorous if impolite comments like the lovely Mr Andrew Gwynne has made (but in his case about our Great Leader) was arrested last week and held In a Police cell overnight. I presume Mr Gwynne will be likewise arrested later tonight….
He is a nasty piece of work. I hope he never comes back to public life.
It was Judge Tan Ikram who boasted of imprisoning those policemen for exactly this. Will this case go to court, with T.I. as the judge? Don’t hold your breath.
This news has been a bit of a shock to me – I don’t mean about most MPs being two-faced, lying, greedy, self-serving slime bags – but that it is about him. I always thought he was a decent, honest, hardworking individual, one of the rare gems, who frequent the halls of Westminster. He is not. He is a great disappointment. I am also disappointed with myself. I thought I was a better judge of character in identifying such folk but I have failed myself.
My first reaction to these WhatsApp messages is how unbelievably childish…. How ignorant not to know WhatsApp isn’t safe too. What kind of calibre are these people given power over us? A grown man pissing about on his phone about old people and their dustbins says it all.
I smiled at a couple of the remarks. It’s not appropriate for an MP to express them in a shareable medium, so I suppose the punishment was warranted, but I don’t want my ‘side’ becoming as humourless as the other.
Oh dear, no one dose has uttered the few words this man did. He is the drip, drip, feature of tge news the past few days. Don’t worry britain. Rome is burning but your best and brightest are very busy crucifying a Mp who uttered a few words. The country is a shambles.