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There Has Been a Failure Here

by Dr David McGrogan
22 January 2025 1:01 PM

Yesterday morning’s news conference, billed as an ‘Address to the Nation’ by Sir Keir Starmer, was extraordinary.

First, a bit of context for foreign readers. As you are probably aware, on July 29th 2024, a boy just shy of his 18th birthday went on a knife-wielding rampage at a summer Taylor Swift-themed event for kids in the town of Southport, killing three little girls. This sparked days of civil disturbances across the country, chiefly targeted at mosques and ‘asylum-seeker hotels’, partly driven by rumours that the attack had been carried out by an Islamist terrorist and asylum-seeker.

In that initial period, the British regime does what it now customarily does in such situations by insisting that the attack was “not terrorism related”, and allowing only a tiny bit of information to trickle out about the perpetrator – that he was “Welsh” and a “quiet choirboy“; his name was not made public. Everybody sensed that there was something fishy about this (it is interesting how official lies or half-truths seem to be accompanied by a veneer of falsity that one can almost smell), and sure enough we later learned that although it was strictly true that the suspect had been born in Wales he was in fact of Rwandan parentage, and that although he may at one stage have been a ‘choirboy’ he had in his possession an Al-Qaeda training manual and had been manufacturing ricin in his bedroom. Now, the trickle of information has become a flood: Axel Rudakubana (as we now can call him) was known by schoolmates to be a dangerous loner who kept a ‘kill list’, had been purchasing weapons and was obsessed with murder and genocide; and, worst of all, was well-known to local police and the operators of the UK’s counter-extremist programme, Prevent.

It is important to say that this pattern of facts is ambiguous. It might be that the official line now being put out – that Rudakubana was just an isolated weirdo, perhaps in the Elliot Rodger mould, who loved violence and hated the world – is in fact the case. If so, then it may be, strictly speaking, true that he was not in fact motivated by ‘terrorism’ in the sense of having a political goal of some kind. But the problem now is that which should have been evident to the authorities at the time and which should be evident to our political class in general, and which is indeed evident to boys who cry wolf everywhere: if you habitually don’t tell the truth, people start to doubt everything you tell them. And this is the position which the British public now finds itself in. We feel like whenever a politician or public figure opens his or her mouth we simply don’t know whether he or she is telling us porkies.

The fault for this, in fairness, lies across the political spectrum and it is an issue that has been afflicting British governance for a very long time (at least since the days of the Iraq War). But we now I think seem to have entered a new era of cynicism, in which the mutual contempt between governing and governed is becoming naked: we know they’re concealing the truth; they know we know it; all that matters whenever there is a flare-up of public emotion is keeping a lid on the truth for long enough to allow the outrage to simmer down so that we can muddle through to the next crisis.

It was against this background that Starmer stood up to give his latest speech. Last Monday, Rudakubana pleaded guilty to the offences he was charged with, and Starmer obviously thought that now was the time to say something important.

One can assume he delivered his speech having it in his mind that he would appear statesmanlike and unify the country. The problem with this is that Starmer is not statesmanlike and does not himself consider unity to be important: he likes to alienate, sneer at and prosecute those whom he thinks to be his political opponents or whom he perceives to be in some sense deplorable. The idea that he could rally the country behind a shared message is in itself therefore faintly silly. But I’d like to focus in particular on what he said in response to questions from the press about what he had known about the attacks in the immediate aftermath, and what he chose to keep secret (emphasis mine here and below):

Let me address the facts as you put them to me. There has been a failure here and I don’t intend to let any institution of the state deflect from its failures and I acknowledge that readily here.

Yes, I knew the details as they were emerging. That is the usual practice in a case such as this. But you know and I know that it would not have been right to disclose those details.

The only losers if the details had been disclosed would be the victims and the families because it ran the risk the trial would collapse. I am never going to do that.

Cleaning off the cloying gloss of sanctimony which is always smeared over all of Starmer’s utterances, what he says here is important. A lot of the media commentary on his speech will home in on the idea that he “knew the details as they were emerging” (one can assume this means on the very day the attack occurred) and kept them secret in order to prevent the trial against Rudakubana collapsing or being himself found in contempt of court. I have my doubts about the plausibility of that story, and we learned only yesterday afternoon that Merseyside Police (the force with authority over Southport) wanted to release “as much information” as possible in order to “negate speculation and conspiracies” but were stopped by the Director of Public Prosecutions. Another, perhaps more likely, explanation – and the one which will be the subject of endless press speculation – was that the details were kept secret so as to prevent public disorder spreading and to protect ‘community cohesion’. But I’m not sure that people will pick up on what I think is the real story here – which is what all of this says about Keir Starmer’s character and priorities.

British readers will cast their minds back to the aftermath of the Southport attacks and the disorder which followed. They will agree with me that violence, and incitement to violence, were deplorable reactions to what had taken place and that a police response was entirely appropriate. They will naturally condemn the way good, law-abiding Muslims were made to feel unsafe last August. But they will also remember the sheer ferocity with with which the criminal justice system – at Starmer’s clear behest – treated people who had not participated in violence or incited it, but simply said distasteful, unwise things online in the heat of the moment on social media. They will remember the wince-inducing harshness of the sentences that were meted out to people who were often better described as foolish (or just drunk) rather than hateful. (Ed West wrote very well on this subject last autumn.) And readers will also remember the speed and efficiency with which information was released about those involved in purported criminal activities. Here is a video of Starmer speaking on August 5th 2024. Pay careful attention to the following lines:

We’ll ramp up criminal justice… there have already been hundreds of arrests. Some of them have appeared in court this morning. I have asked for early consideration of the earliest naming and identification of those involved… who will feel the full force of the law.

On top of this, they will probably also remember Starmer’s declaration at the time of the intent to use facial recognition technology and Criminal Behaviour Orders to restrict people’s movements in advance of their even becoming involved in criminal activities, and his threats to social media companies in respect of crime “happening on [their] premises”. They will probably also remember what was perhaps the worst aspect of Starmer’s response to the riots, which was to insist that what was going on was “pure violence” and entirely “far-Right thuggery” and thereby to tar peaceful protestors, or just those who wanted to express concerns about issues regarding immigration and integration, with the same brush as the actual racists and violent criminals. And readers will recall the message that all of this sent out: mind your Ps and Qs. Don’t talk about this issue. Don’t speculate about it. Don’t even venture an opinion about anything connected to it. Just accept the official story about a Welsh choirboy gone wrong, and go about your business.

For Starmer to have behaved in this way was one matter – it certainly restored public order and made people very scared to say anything much at all. But for him to have encouraged such a clampdown on public discussion of the matter when he himself – as he has now admitted – knew the identity of the killer, his background, his character and the fact that he had been referred to Prevent, is something else. To make the position absolutely clear: there is no excuse for violence or direct incitement of violence. People should think before they post nasty things on social media. Nobody disputes this. But there was a grain of truth in the initial rumours that spread online, and a legitimate public interest in having the perpetrator’s background discussed and exposed, exactly for the reasons Merseyside Police suggested. And there was also a great deal of perfectly understandable concern about the impact of mass immigration on society that ordinary people – not “far-Right thugs” – wanted to peacefully and civilly express at that time, however complicated the story has turned out to in fact be.

That Keir Starmer knew what he knew last August and yet still chose to egg on what now appears to be an almost vindictively harsh approach in sentencing, still chose to smear everybody who raised a peep about the impact of mass immigration in the aftermath of the Southport attack as “far-Right”, and still chose to deliberately freeze public debate in the manner which he did tells us something about this man. In the run-up to the General Election of 2024, and really ever since he became Leader of the Opposition back in 2020, Starmer has always sought to portray himself as a decent, honest, good-hearted person who wishes to rise above the nastiness of contemporary politics. And I, like many other people, was initially taken in by that – I thought him a lightweight, and would never have voted for his party, but I had the view that he was basically a sincere person with daft ideas.

What we have seen in Starmer since he came to office is something very different – a petty, inhumane, almost spiteful man who considers himself to be morally superior to the mass of humanity and has no qualms whatsoever about breaking eggs to make omelettes. This was confirmed in spades yesterday. And what was also confirmed is that he is also not dishonest in the ordinary sense, but in the Lyndon Johnsonian sense of considering matters of truth and lies to be an irrelevance in respect of the achievement of political objectives – what matters is the realisation of aims, not whether or not one is honest. When the opportunity arose for Starmer to choose between honesty and what he thought to be expedient, there was simply no contest.

But he was right about one thing. In his speech, as you will recall, he made the (obvious) point that “there has been a failure here”. What he meant by this was presumably that there was a failure on the part of Prevent to take appropriate action when Rudakubana was referred to them. But he could have been speaking much more broadly. Surveying the wreckage of contemporary Britain – the economic gloom, the sense of dilapidation and decay, the feeling of social disintegration, the nihilism of the culture, the torpor that lies across everything like a pall, the appalling way in which the country is governed – it becomes difficult to think of a more apt analysis than that there has indeed been a general failure here. We’re not quite sure what that failure is. But we collectively know it has happened – we sense it viscerally.

The Southport attack and its aftermath fits awkwardly into that picture. It cannot be attributed exactly to any one cause, and these events are in any case always in a sense sui generis – when the Dunblane massacre took place in 1996 we hardly had mass immigration, terrorism or the failings of counter-extremism programmes to blame, but the event happened regardless. And yet Rudakubana’s rampage had a powerful resonance: this didn’t use to be a country in which little girls were stabbed en masse at summer dance clubs, didn’t use to be a country led by people who appear to loathe it, and didn’t use to be country in which most people were completely contemptuous and fearful of their leaders. Now it is. And it is hard to avoid the conclusion that Starmer is, unintentionally therefore, hitting on an important truth. This is that there really has been a failure – somewhere. Our pressing task is to try to figure out exactly what it was so that we can put it right.

Dr. David McGrogan is an Associate Professor of Law at Northumbria Law School. You can subscribe to his Substack – News From Uncibal – here.

Tags: Axel RudakubanaCover-upImmigrationKeir StarmerLabourSouthport AttackSummer Riots

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Mogwai
Mogwai
6 months ago

So does anyone know what a ”life sentence” equates to if you won’t be actually banged up for the rest of your natural life? Plus, whatever it is he should of course be doing three of them as well as whatever one gets for attempted murder these days multiplied by eight. So surely this altogether would put him behind bars until he’s at least middle-aged, if not older, or not?

”With Rudakubana due for sentencing on Thursday, January 23rd, he appears to have avoided a ‘whole-life tariff’ on account of his age and guilty plea. Prime Minister Keir Starmer has pledged to draw a “line in the sand” against what he describes as the new form of terrorism that the attack represents. This will involve targeting ‘similar’ offenders in future and a national public inquiry into alleged institutional failings.

A performative response to the killings, in the hope that public fury further subsides, is already taking shape. Starmer is gearing up to tackle the new (and largely confected) problem of “loners, misfits, young men in their bedrooms”—echoing the U.S. preoccupation with ‘incels’ who become school shooters—to be resolved by another online clampdown on internet content and social media.”

https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/what-else-are-we-not-being-told-starmer-under-pressure-over-southport-killer/

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kev
kev
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

It’s difficult to loathe the man enough! Is he trying to out Blair, Tony Blair?

Considering his party only received 20% of the vote, its obscene that he sits authoritatively with such a large majority.

Personally, I would love to know what these Western Democratic principles we live under. Why would any nation wish to have our corrupt brand of democracy and Western values?

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Mogwai
Mogwai
6 months ago
Reply to  kev

Irrespective of what sentence this evil turd gets tomorrow, I can only hope somebody finishes him off in prison ( or he does himself in ) because in years gone by it would’ve been the death penalty, so this really is the best form of justice that I can think of. Keeping scum like this alive in prison, where their human rights are upheld and they’re not freezing to death on the streets like the non-criminal native homeless, at the tax payers’ expense is just ludicrous. In fact, if these migrants and their descendants knew there was the death penalty they might think twice about committing some of the sick, twisted crimes that they do. But instead they’ve got it cushy and there’s basically zero deterrent.

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kev
kev
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

To know right from wrong requires a moral compass.

These animals lack that, or any sense of morality. They certainly don’t deserve to live in the country I grew up in!

I actually doubt a death sentence would deter some of these scum, they think their actions are somehow justified or forgivable.

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Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
6 months ago
Reply to  kev

Remember that achieving martyrdom is an end in itself, so their own lives are deliberately deemphasised.

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Twm Morgan
Twm Morgan
6 months ago
Reply to  Tyrbiter

That ‘martyrdom’ could be easily limited for a certain class by ensuring that if they die while in prison they are buried in a pigskin.
Apparently, virgins don’t take kindly to such polluted ‘martyrs’.

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Kone Wone
Kone Wone
6 months ago
Reply to  kev

Of course the death sentence would deter the particular perpetrator; whether it would deter those who would contemplate similar future actions is less certain. But there’s little downside to at least ensuring there is no repeat performance from the first actor; revenge is a justified response.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

As a very minimum ALL immigrants, both initial and first generation must know that any breach of the laws of our land will result in automatic Deportation. I guarantee this will focus minds and sharpish.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

What’s one more mass-stabbing on the streets of a European country? Daily occurrence, but this has just happened today. Naturally I blame the retailer that sold him the knife. I’m very confident it’s just another native German running amok. Probably a far-right AfD supporter…;

”A man and child have been killed in a horror German mass stabbing that has also left several people injured.
Police have arrested a man after he descended on members of the public in the Bavarian town of Aschaffenburg, killing two and injuring others on a shock rampage at around 11.45am today. First responders have cordoned off a large portion of the city, covering Schöntal Park, where the attack is believed to have taken place, and suspended local traffic in the area, and have taken one man into custody.”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-man-child-killed-horror-34530685

EDIT: Damn. I was way off in my prediction. Who’d have guessed it?

”A man, described by police as a 28-year-old Afghan national, has been arrested following the knife attack in a park in Aschaffenburg on Wednesday.”

https://news.sky.com/story/two-killed-in-knife-attack-in-germany-13294102

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Mogwai
Mogwai
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

He deliberately targeted little kids on a daycare outing at the park, FFS;

”A 28-year-old Afghan national has been arrested following a brutal stabbing spree targeting a group of daycare children and their teachers in Schöntal Park, an idyllic green space in the Bavarian town of Aschaffenburg.
Authorities have confirmed to local news outlet Main Echo that a 2-year-old child died from multiple stab wounds while a 41-year-old man who attempted to intervene during the attack was also killed.
Two others sustained serious injuries, including a second child currently being operated on at the Aschaffenburg Clinic.
According to initial reports, the suspect followed a group of young children and their teachers from a local daycare as they walked through the park around 11:45 a.m. Sensing a threat, the teachers reportedly tried to leave the area, but the attacker launched his assault with a knife, seemingly targeting the children.”

https://rmx.news/article/afghan-national-arrested-for-deadly-stabbing-attack-on-daycare-children-in-bavarian-park/

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RTSC
RTSC
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

The EU has imported millions of potential murderers like this. And the British Government has ensured that “we have taken our fair share.”

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Lurker
Lurker
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I’ve seen posts and videos suggesting around 25-28 years.

It’s worth remembering that that’s the minimum term and that’s when he would become eligible for parole rather than being automatically released. Though with the path we’re taking I wouldn’t be surprised if he was straight out then sadly

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Mogwai
Mogwai
6 months ago
Reply to  Lurker

For 3 murders and 12 attempted murders that’s appallingly disproportionate. And there should be no chance of parole. He will always remain a danger too, possibly more so after serving that amount of time among other psycho Muslims who’ll just reinforce his murderous beliefs and ideology. So jail in this scenario can hardly be deemed a rehabilitative experience, can it? That’s why any sane person would want these scumbags deported once they’ve done their time. They can get sent back to their third world shitholes where standards of living and cultural norms are vastly different, but sadly that is out of the question when said scum are born over here. It’s bad enough when they’ve acquired citizenship, then the ‘human rights traitors’ step in and save them from being booted out because on paper they’re ‘British’.

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Lurker
Lurker
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

It’s low because as well as avoiding the whole life tariff because he was under 21 being under 18 also lowers the starting point and the amount that can be added for severity etc.

I agree he shouldn’t get parole but in this country now…

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Tommy Robinson is being made to serve time in solitary.

Twenty eight years solitary, restricted diet followed by deportation should be an absolute minimum.

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Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
6 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I suspect that being born here makes deportation unlawful.

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Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

The thing is that a life sentence means that consideration for parole is not automatic, if the prisoner shows no evidence of rehabilitation then there may be no referral to a parole board and no hearing may occur, if it does the parole may be refused, it requires the acceptance of the conditions of parole by the prisoner.

If someone is ever released on licence they are subject to immediate recall to prison if they breach the parole conditions or commit even a minor offence, this does not need to pass through a court from what I understand, it’s automatic and the police are immediately told to remand the parolee in custody until the prison service arrive to take them back inside.

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Gezza England
Gezza England
6 months ago
Reply to  Tyrbiter

The thing is that a life sentence was the substitute for an entirely deserved hanging when sold to the public. Yes, the government lying to us goes back beyond Tony the Liar.

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ellie-em
ellie-em
6 months ago
Reply to  Lurker

He’ll be released because his place will be needed to incarcerate someone who wrote ‘hurty’ words expressing their disdain at the shameful erosion of traditional British values.

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Lurker
Lurker
6 months ago
Reply to  ellie-em

Unfortunately you’re probably right…

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Mogwai
Mogwai
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Actually it was 10 kids and 2 adults that he stabbed and injured in addition to the 3 girls he killed. I don’t know where I got 8 kids from. So in addition to 3 life sentences he needs to go down for 12 attempted murders too, whatever that looks like as I don’t know off the top of my head;

”On 29 July 2024 Axel Rudakubana climbed into a taxi to travel to a Taylor Swift–themed yoga & dance workshop at the Hart Space in Southport. He arrived 11.45 am wearing a black hooded top & a COVID-style face mask.

He attacked two adults & 13 children, killing three, Bebe King, 6, & Elsie Dot Stancombe, 7, died at the scene. Alice da Silva Aguiar, 9, died in hospital the following day.
Jonathan Hayes working in the office tried to disarm him but was stabbed in the leg.

At 11.47 police received their first 999 call, they arrived & Rudakubana was standing over a body, knife in hand.

The hero is yoga teacher Leanne Lucas. Stabbed in the back & critically injured she hauled herself off the blood soaked floor to open the door, she told them to run & not to stop. They found refuge in a nearby house. One poor girl was dragged back by Rudakubana.

His aim was to kill them all. The injuries of the dead girls are so horrific, so cruel, out of respect to the families I will not publish them. You are welcome to DM me. ”

https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1882043532036149286

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Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I’m pretty sure that the judge knows exactly what provisions and limitations he has in sentencing this killer, and the other non-fatal offences will all be considered as well.

We don’t have long to discover what will happen, I don’t know how this works in terms of the judges on the Liverpool Crown Court circuit but there will be advice from other judges available.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

“a national public inquiry”

There seems to be an unhealthy interest in “public enquiries” all of a sudden. No sooner does Hallett complete one whitewash and she’s plucked for another.

I tend to the view that it’s not inquiries we need but trials and they have the advantages of being quicker, cheaper and less open to manipulation so long as a straight judge can be located.

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Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
6 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

We’ve seen in every enquiry currently that evidence that the establishment doesn’t want admitted is not accepted either from someone presenting it in person or via written evidence. That is simply the sign of a sick system at work, with everything designed to not frighten the horses.

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DiscoveredJoys
DiscoveredJoys
6 months ago

But he was right about one thing. In his speech, as you will recall, he made the (obvious) point that “there has been a failure here”

But not pointing is his direction, obviously. [sarcasm]

I suspect that any further Inquiry will be more deflection and carefully dodge the question about how the details were ‘managed’ by politicians. Nigel Farage’s allegation of Cover Up Keir seem quite to the point.

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stewart
stewart
6 months ago

I don’t know why the author ever thought Starmer to be a decent person.

To me he has always come across as a repulsive human being.

He probably would have thrived in the old Soviet Union, particularly during the Stalin years…

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
6 months ago
Reply to  stewart

Agree 100%

For a while if DS needed a picture of him they used the one where he is “taking the knee”. I think that’s the ONLY one they should use, just to remind anyone visiting the site of exactly what type of person he is. Either that or a picture of him wearing a face nappy – every politician they picture on this site should feature them wearing a face nappy, so we know where they stood at the time.

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stewart
stewart
6 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

That’s actually a great idea. As more time passes, they are going to look more and more ridiculous with their muzzles. We should never allow them to forget what the f***ers did .

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Douglas Brodie
Douglas Brodie
6 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
6 months ago
Reply to  Douglas Brodie

That’s the one! How could anyone vote for that, regardless of your politics????

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AynRandyAndy
AynRandyAndy
6 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

I suppose it gave the Ginger Growler the opportunity to brazenly flaunt her . . .
‘humanity’.

I now feel sick.

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stewart
stewart
6 months ago
Reply to  Douglas Brodie

Repulsive virtue signaller.

I hope the image haunts him for the rest of his days.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
6 months ago
Reply to  stewart

In contrast to Hitchens unmuzzled and standing tall:

Undeserved Praise – or Thoughts on not ‘Taking the Buttock’ at the ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ Demonstration in Oxford – Mail Online – Peter Hitchens blog

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
6 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

100% tof.

This picture is of course from whence he derives the wholly appropriate first name, Kneel.

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GroundhogDayAgain
GroundhogDayAgain
6 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Kneel Smarmer

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
6 months ago
Reply to  stewart

I knew he was a Trilateral Commission Globalist who prefers Davos, what more does the author need to know FFS!

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stewart
stewart
6 months ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

Davos is the mother of all lobby groups for corporations. It is the mechanism for lobbying all countries at the same time rather than having to go country by country. They congregate government representatives and get them to outbid each other to give preferential conditions and adjust laws to their liking. They also congregate multi national entities because they’re an efficient way of influencing legislation at a global level though treaties.

The bureaucrats and politicians that attend Davos are doing so knowing full well what the game is. Which begs the question why they go? For the benefit of their populations? Or is it to enhance their personal power and careers and set themselves up with some nice golden parachutes for when they’re done selling out the populations they are supposed to serve?

That goes for Starmer, Sunak, Johnson, May and the rest of the self serving weasels.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
6 months ago
Reply to  stewart

And there is also the Stakeholder Capitalism element pushed by Mr Schwab.

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RTSC
RTSC
6 months ago
Reply to  stewart

That’s what he and his ilk are trying to create here: a Soviet Union-style society.

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MajorMajor
MajorMajor
6 months ago

“What we have seen in Starmer since he came to office is something very different – a petty, inhumane, almost spiteful man who considers himself to be morally superior to the mass of humanity and has no qualms whatsoever about breaking eggs to make omelettes.”

This is true of every single lefty/marxist/communist/adolphist politician that has ever emerged.
Every one of them.
Petty, inhumane, spiteful, unscrupulous.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
6 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

“…almost spiteful…”

  1. Correction…. almost spiteful…”
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Hardliner
Hardliner
6 months ago

For the further benefit of our overseas readers, the last word in para 4 ‘porkies‘ is Cockney rhyming slang for ‘lies’. As in “porky pies…” 🙂 It’s a good word to know, in Starmer’s Britain….

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
6 months ago
Reply to  Hardliner

Aye, because that barsteward spews them day in day out. How to confirm that Starmer is lying – his lips are moving. Which of course can be safely said of all the Labour front bench / party.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
6 months ago

What are you talking about, the attacker is a prime example of a valleys boy!

One thing not mentioned in this essay is the fact that they used a younger picture of him as a kid, when they have the up to date pic of this evil swine with dead eyes. Remember the Rivers of Blood speech, quite prophetic.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
6 months ago

This is what Mark Steyn had to say on the matter

“I do not use the word “evil” lightly. But the British media during my brief return to their precincts got Keir Stürmer all wrong: he was presented, by contrast with Boris Johnson, as mostly bland and dull. Not at all. He’s a psycho whose instincts on almost anything are profoundly totalitarian. So even now he presents the slaughterer of schoolgirls, known to the authorities and its stupid “Prevent” programme, not as a foreseeable consequence of public policy but as the result of online “disinformation”.
So the schoolgirls will be safe if only we give Ofcom more powers.
There is a great deal of ruin in a nation, said Adam Smith. Not this much. Britain is approaching the end-point. Trump should steer well clear of these guys”
“

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Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
6 months ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

I hope that Trump can get the torpedoes in the water.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
6 months ago

“They will naturally condemn the way good, law-abiding Muslims were made to feel unsafe last August.”

What the bloody hell is Mc Grogan on about? Could he link to any evidence? Is this the usual apology that has to be forced in to any article which features the barbarism of islam? Give it a rest for crying out loud.

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JXB
JXB
6 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

It is curious that such a law-abiding, cuddly, fluffy, peace-loving bunch of folks manage to produce huge numbers of depraved individuals all over the globe. Must just be unhappy coincidence.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
6 months ago
Reply to  JXB

Isn’t it just.

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Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
6 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Because their book tells them that this is exactly what they must do, and hiding it in apparent law-abiding behaviour is entirely acceptable to get into a position to strike with the most damage done.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
6 months ago

“however complicated the story has turned out to in fact be.”

There is nothing complicated in this very, very sad story although without a shadow of a doubt Starmer has besmirched the memory of those poor little girls with his despicable lies, cover-ups and faux sympathy. Add to this the deliberate creation of a new prisoner class and it is abundantly clear who deserves to feel the full force of the law.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
6 months ago

“Starmer has always sought to portray himself as a decent, honest, good-hearted person who wishes to rise above the nastiness of contemporary politics. And I, like many other people, was initially taken in by that…”

Says it all. If anybody has ever fallen for ‘decent, good-hearted’ Starmer they need their bumps feeling – tip for the future David, keep this to yourself.

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Tylney
Tylney
6 months ago

Why does everyone assume that this guy was a terrorist – what, then was his political objective? Frankly, from his strangely maniacal appearance, I wonder if he may simply be mad. Ah – but then, if mad, he would not have been considered fit to plead and stand trial. . .
Two options there, then – either class him as mad, or else declare him sane and persuade him to plead guilty. Either way, there’s (hopefully?) less pressure to reveal the sordid details of the actions of those responsible for this abysmal institutional and political failure.
Questions, questions, so many damnable questions . . .

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JXB
JXB
6 months ago
Reply to  Tylney

Terrorist terrorise. They don’t need to have a political objective.

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JXB
JXB
6 months ago

“They will agree with me that violence, and incitement to violence, were deplorable reactions to what had taken place and that a police response was entirely appropriate.”

Who “they”?

Let’s pick at that. Who incited the violence? The killer? The “authorities” by their clear lie-telling? Yes. Yes.

Police response appropriate? But not appropriate when Muslims attack a pub or scream hatred and abuse at Jews.

Had there been a statement: “alleged” killer was son born in the UK, living in Cardiff, born to parents legally settled from Rwanda, police are investigating motives.

There would have been no “deplorable reactions” – is that too difficult to consider for some? How would that have jeopardised a trial?

They didn’t release details to avoid “unrest” – how did that work out? And why would they imagine the truth would cause unrest?

If a perpetrator is White and assigned “Far Right” status (automatic) police and authorities fall over themselves to announce this and further assign “terror-linked” or “thug” labelling. But this won’t affect a trial?

Was the violence deplorable reactions – if the political class is out of control, if the police, judicial system, Governing class cannot be trusted, lies, operates two-tier system – pray tell what reactions are left for the citizenry – compliance, servitude? Do have a look at history.

The truth is – the great multi-culti experiment is an abject failure, a danger and the goon-squad is hunkered down in their last redoubt of denial, obfuscation, excuses, lies, aggression to any who challenge.

“… that there really has been a failure – somewhere”.

Somewhere? Somewhere!

1997 and New Labour and its policy of flooding the UK with all the dross of hellholes on the planet to “rub the Right’s nose in multiculturalism”.

“Our pressing task is to try to figure out exactly what it was so that we can put it right.”

We already know the answer to both – what Trump is doing.

Stop press. Apparently it’s been solved. It’s all the fault of Amazon because he ordered his knives on-line. But Amazon won’t deliver knives unless the delivery service can confirm age/ID of recipient. The same as in a shop.

The Government spinners have been in touch with the MSM – distract, move on.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
6 months ago
Reply to  JXB

Much appreciated.

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GroundhogDayAgain
GroundhogDayAgain
6 months ago
Reply to  JXB

It was definitely the knife’s fault. Pencils also misspell words and spoons make people fat.

The call to strengthen the rules on knife purchases is a pathetic attempt at distraction.

Every single household in the country has several knives already. If he couldn’t order one then he’d simply have got one from his own kitchen.

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ellie-em
ellie-em
6 months ago
Reply to  GroundhogDayAgain

Look out for the incoming ban on metal utensils etc and the enforced use of bendy plastic (recycled) or rounded wooden / bamboo utensils – to protect the public, of course.

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
6 months ago

I think he has gone too far this time. You could see his discomfort when he was attempting his fancy footwork in answering questions. He wants you to forget the timeline, the context, the antecedent events, the concurrent events. It was dreadful to see those poor innocent working class people getting locked up and their sentencing on full public display. A sense of horror that the British state would do this. They did it to Assange in full public view then they did it to you. My impression is that there is now a visceral revulsion for Starmer and his cadre of neoliberal freaks with nasal voices.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
6 months ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

We can only hope he gets his comeuppance, would love to help!

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OhWellWhatTheHell
OhWellWhatTheHell
6 months ago

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OhWellWhatTheHell
OhWellWhatTheHell
6 months ago

Starmer has one dimension morally speaking: Cowardice.

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RW
RW
6 months ago

Earlier today, an Afghan asylum seeker who had already undergone psychiatric treatment for violent attacks on other people at least three times in the past but apparently, wasn’t otherwise punished for this, made a knife attack on a group of kindergarten kids in a park known to the (German) police as “dangerous place” (but probably not to the general public) in the German town of Aschaffenburg, killing a little girl and a bystander who rushed to help and wounding several other people.

Can anybody perhaps see a pattern here?

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RW
RW
6 months ago
Reply to  RW

Some more details: The man had supposedly ‘fled’ to Germany in November 2022. About 1½ month ago, he had notified the German authorities that he wasn’t seeking asylum any longer and wanted to return voluntarily to Afghanistan. German authorities than reportedly ‘asked’ him to actually leave.

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ACW
ACW
6 months ago

“he likes to alienate, sneer at and prosecute those whom he thinks to be his political opponents or whom he perceives to be in some sense deplorable..”

That must be the 80% of the electorate who didn’t vote for his state-cabal.

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Pilla
Pilla
6 months ago

“We’ll ramp up criminal justice…”
I think Dr McGrogan is absolutely right: this was/is the agenda behind KS’s actions after the Southport killing (if it ever really happened and wasn’t a false flag/psyop event for this very purpose, which some think it may have been – I am interested to see that no comments here appear to entertain this perfectly possible idea!).

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RW
RW
6 months ago
Reply to  Pilla

Considering the similarities between this and the attack in Germany and the relatively novelty of the action itself — Why do knife attacks on little girls? If the motive of that wasn’t spread fear among the population, ie, a classic terrorist attack, it’s hard to imagine what it could have been – if think false flag can safely be ruled out.

I strongly suspect that there’s some organization looking for muslims with a history of deranged behaviour and violence online and teaching them about effective targets for future attacks of theirs. I also suspect that this is known to the authorities (both in Germany and the UK), but that they consider it an unavoidable and ultimately, tolerable side effect of their immigration policies. Perhaps even a desirable side effect, because – as Keir Charmless has just demonstrated – the events themselves can be used to justify more internet censorship to crack down on largely imaginary “far right terrorists”, which, in practice, means go after the victims of such attacks insofar they dare to express opinions critical of the mentioned immigration policies.

The perfidy of all of this is noteworthy: It looks very much like the handwriting of the Corona/ climate change/ critical whatnot theory global ‘actionists.’

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Pilla
Pilla
6 months ago
Reply to  RW

Yes, that makes sense, you are probably right. But oh the perfidy, as you rightly say!

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WillP
WillP
6 months ago

Just another vile mediocrity in a position of power who thinks the plebs can’t be trusted with the truth.

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coviture2020
coviture2020
6 months ago

Answers on half a postcard

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RTSC
RTSC
6 months ago

Starmer stood at the No.10 podium, leaning on it as a lawyer would in a Hollywood movie, and blatantly LIED to the British people about the imperative of him (and the police) saying NOTHING about the murderer in order to get a trial and conviction.

We are routinely told limited information about (a) the suspect (b) the individual charged before a trial commences. Details of evidence are not released for the obvious reason, but basic FACTS are.

Last year, the Establishment and this appalling man were DESPERATE to suppress the FACTS. And they were prepared to demonise and jail basically harmless people in order to do it.

THAT’s what’s wrong with this country. The Establishment has created a ticking time-bomb with decades of mass immigration and is desperate to stop the explosion. The only way they can do that is to target the “restless Natives” – particularly the white working class who are suffering the most from the Establishment’s failed multi-culti policy.

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Twm Morgan
Twm Morgan
6 months ago
Reply to  RTSC

Agreed!
Yet when the MP Jo Cox was murdered the details were fully disclosed within a very short time and nobody thought anything of it. Her killer’s trial went ahead and there was no collapse.
How very odd that Failure Starmer didn’t know this!

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Twm Morgan
Twm Morgan
6 months ago

I doubt I have ever read such a devastating indictment of ANY politician in over 60 years. This article pierces the heart of all that is wrong, that is sick about our rulers, and none more so than the corrupt, double dealing, naïve and disgusting toolmaker’s son currently lurking in Downing Street.
We can only hope that it will not be for long.
Bravo Dr McGrogan!

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SomersetHoops
SomersetHoops
6 months ago

What Starmer’s speech after the Southport protest did, while ensuring people were cowering under his power to ensure they are jailed for legal protest, was to demonstrate what a despicable ar**hole Starmer is and how he is prepared to missuse his position as Prime Minister. He shold not be allowed to act in this way and if we had a proper constitution of human rights as America has, his actions of facial recognition etc. would be illegal. The main problem with Starmer and the most of the Labour party is that they support Islamists because that is where much of their electoral support is. This also shows part of the reason that Labour resists a proper report into the Islamists raping our children and why Tommy Robinson is being illegally treated by our corrupt legal system. I only hope Elon Musk’s legal team can expose and correct that situation.

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DontPanic
DontPanic
6 months ago

Lee Rigby, Keith Palmer, Jack Merritt, Saskia Jones and others. Does Starmer believe these come under the category non terrorist incidents

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Sparrowhawk
Sparrowhawk
6 months ago

Starmer. Just when you thought we’ve had the final example of a string of useless Prime Ministers who serve Davos and destroy our country with a big smile…..

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Kone Wone
Kone Wone
6 months ago

Your penultimate paragraph, especially that after ‘…..the wreckage of contemporary Britain…’ resonates. With Harmer, Peeves, and Minibrain in the wheelhouse, will the ship of state avoid the beckoning rocks?

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klf
klf
6 months ago

Starmer displays the traits of a sociopath. He certainly appears to have a visceral hatred for many British people.

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