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The Establishment Figures Involved in Trying to Suppress the Story of Britain’s Rape Gangs

by Laurie Wastell
13 January 2025 7:00 AM

Having caught the eye of Elon Musk, the years-long outrage of predominantly Pakistani-Muslim rape gangs preying on underage U.K. girls has this month come to far wider attention than ever before, both at home and internationally. In the sorry annals of this scandal, one of the repeated travesties is the many opportunities for it to be brought to wider attention that were missed. And if at times this was to do with the cowardice of individual police officers, journalists or social workers (not to mention the deafening silence from the Pakistani community itself, of course), at times it was the result of efforts, inadvertent or otherwise, of Left-wing activists to suppress knowledge of what was happening, for fear of upsetting community relations or giving succour to the ‘far-Right’.

While reports of on-street grooming gangs go back at least as far as the 1970s, an opportunity came to lift the lid on the scandal in 2004 with Edge of the City, a Channel 4 documentary about the experiences of social workers in Bradford.


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Mogwai
Mogwai
7 months ago

Apparently the Pakistani government are willing to take these scumbag criminals back, so says Ben Habib. So why on earth isn’t this happening by the plane-load?

”How to rid ourselves of Pakistani nationals who have gang raped our young.

It’s surprisingly straightforward but requires a competent govt.

Give me a call @Keir_Starmer”

https://x.com/benhabib6/status/1877709740353999152

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Mogwai
Mogwai
7 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I wonder how many of those rapists are married to their cousins. It is yet another issue getting brushed under the carpet and further proof of how incompatible their culture is with ours. Just more unethical, stone age nonsense that doesn’t belong in a civilized society;

”One of my follower’s writes, “We are a country being led by woke cowards who will not address the evils within Islam such as this.” The subject is Asian cousin marriages.

“Hi David, a little story for you will be able to post.

“In a former job I was part of the Child Death Overview Panel (CDOP) for an East London Borough. I was on the panel in my official capacity at the time.

“The role of the panel was to look into the death of every child under 18 & look for ways in which they could be prevented in the future.

“Around 75% of all child deaths were as a result of genetic disorders caused as a consequence of consanguinity (1st cousins having children with 1st cousins). Everyone of these were children of Pakistani/Bangladesh nationals where at least one of the parents was not born in the UK & often neither had UK citizenship.

“The cost of the care of these children ran into the millions & despite repeated efforts to raise this amongst health professionals to raise awareness & try and reduce the child deaths and therefore the costs to NHS.

“We were consistently told that we would be able to speak to community ‘leaders’ & raise awareness but this blocked at every opportunity by the senior leaders of NHS, Police & other agencies too scared to be accused of racism & ‘Islamophobia’.

“This is a national health emergency which firstly should not even be happening in the UK as cousin marriage should be illegal, secondly the cost to the NHS and being payable to people who have e never paid into the system is millions of pounds of net loss and thirdly senior leaders in these areas knowingly allow this to continue.

“We are a country being led by woke cowards who will not address the evils within Islam such as this.”

https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1878531850668552480

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RTSC
7 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Most of them will be the result of generations of cousin marriage; and they will also be married to their cousins.

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Robert Liddell
Robert Liddell
6 months ago
Reply to  RTSC

I think that is the point. The occasional cousin marriage has almost always happened and is not a huge issue for society. It’s when it cascades through the generations like this that it becomes a huge issue.

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Keencook
Keencook
7 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

If you wanted to see the impact of rare genetic disorders in babies from cousin marriages – or God forbid closer – as a trainee med student you headed to Rotherham or any of the well known hospital centres in these areas known for high percentage ethnic populations. This was from early 2000s when I worked in a med school.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
7 months ago
Reply to  Keencook

I read somewhere in passing that it’s to do with protecting the family’s wealth. But if this is the case then why is it supposedly only Pakistanis that practice cousin marriage ( not all, I’m presuming ), but also what if you have a child with defects severe enough that they can’t possibly go on to have babies themselves when older? Or do they just keep having babies until they get one that’s healthy?🤔 I’ve no idea. You probably know more than me. But I do know that not all cousin marriages result in birth defects, but it certainly is above the background rate of the rest of the population. I can’t believe ( well I can, tbh ) Labour MPs were against a ban on cousin marriages. The mind boggles with all the things they want to normalise and have us accept, honestly.😖

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Jack the dog
Jack the dog
7 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I would expect that the first time round the risk is fairly small.

But these people have been doing it for probably dozens of generations, and the risk will increase exponentially with each one.

The anecdotal evidence seems pretty clear that it is a massive problem.

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RTSC
RTSC
7 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Yes, in the areas where the practice is prevalent (ie Pakistani) it is to keep wealth and ownership of land within the same family.

In their own country, with primitive medical care, a defective baby would soon die …. or be allowed to die. They are just accepted collateral damage for maintaining the prime objective. In the UK, we spend a small fortune keeping them alive.

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Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago
Reply to  Keencook

Amazing.

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Heretic
Heretic
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Pakistani Habib is a liar.

Labour must stop handing millions to Pakistan as country blocks removal of child sex abusers from Britain, former immigration minister claims | Daily Mail Online

“Grooming gang ringleaders who raped and exploited dozens of young white girls in Rochdale and elsewhere cannot be deported because ISLAMABAD HAS REFUSED TO ACCEPT THEM.”

“While countries cannot unilaterally send criminals back to their native lands, Pakistan receives millions in aid money from the UK each each year – amounting to more than £1 billion over the last decade.”

“Last night, former immigration minister Robert Jenrick called for the payments to stop and a visa ban to be implemented until the country starts cooperating.

‘It’s shameful that Pakistan is abusing our generosity and madness that the Government isn’t doing something about it,’ he said.

‘Perpetrators with dual nationality should be stripped of UK citizenship and kicked out of this country – no ifs, no buts.

‘If their country of origin won’t take them back, then the Government should use every lever to force them to do so.

‘THESE SICK AND TWISTED INDIVIDUALS SHOULD NEVER SET FOOT ON BRITISH SOIL AGAIN.’

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Monro
Monro
7 months ago

More evidence that the labour (trade union) party is the nasty party.

‘UAF is essentially a political coalition of the Socialist Workers Party and Socialist Action — a small Stalinist sect close to Ken Livingstone. It claims the support of most major trade unions and a variety of religious organisations. The political foundations of UAF are built upon the SWP’s interpretation of the United Front tactic.’

https://www.workersliberty.org/story/2008/01/19/working-class-campaign-against-fascism

So the UAF is essentially the Socialist Workers Party….you know….the people whose placards festooned every Gaza rally. Those have gone a bit quiet, haven’t they……

We know those rallies were at least partly funded by ‘The Peoples Forum’, itself funded out of China via Goldman Sachs.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2756059/ccp-allied-charity-behind-anti-israel-protests-sees-donations-skyrocket-by-millions/

Hain and Blower should be kicked out of parliament just for starters.

Systemic reform is required.

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
7 months ago

People have asked what the Establishment would do if the rape gangs were predominantly white (usually Methodists!) and targeting Pakistani girls. But I’ve been musing on what the response would be if it emerged that racist child abuse was happening on all sides.

Would the police etc be saying that the truth must still be suppressed for “community cohesion” even though everyone’s daughters were being groomed and every community knew it? Or would someone conclude that the country was becoming pathological and that radical reformation was needed to save it from civil war?

Since, I’m pretty sure, the latter would have to be the case eventually, it’s sad that they can’t see the similar writing on the wall now.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
7 months ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

Well I’ve an idea how a non-Muslim man would get treated in Pakistan if he were found ( or even suspected ) to have sexually abused Muslim girls, and I doubt very much it’d involve a fair trial and a stretch in a cushy prison, like in the UK. They’re not awfully big on human rights over there, let alone for minority religions.
I just try to view it as: what if the boot was on the other foot? What would happen with a British expat paedo in Dubai, for instance? He’d surely get extradited ( presumably death penalty or hefty prison sentence for natives ) if he were still a British citizen, but the UK government can’t even manage to do that. Why so unwilling? The rapists don’t all have British citizenship.

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
7 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Why so unwilling?

Presumably because there’s one ex-pat in Dubai as opposed to several million showing solidarity to the “Muslim nation” against the attacks of the infidels.

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RTSC
RTSC
7 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Why so unwilling? Because retaining their precious Human Rights Act and ECHR is their priority.

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Art Simtotic
Art Simtotic
7 months ago

Perhaps I’m being too generous, but maybe the blindness to evil reality of these public oracles falls under what Mr Konstantin Kisin refers to as “The Cobra Effect: Why Good Intentions Don’t Solve Problems…”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsLIP1ScHUg

“…Intentions don’t drive human behaviour, incentives do.”

Sordid crime incentivised to proliferate over decades to foster the fallacy of a multicultural never-never land. How warped and twisted that is.

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CGW
CGW
7 months ago

There is no question that the organized rape of British girls by Pakistanis or others is absolutely disgusting, and the obvious neglect of the matter by British police and justice equally so.

But this has nothing to do with “pro-Palestinian activists” or activism: they are rightly complaining about the ongoing genocide of Israel’s indigenous population, which sadly also includes rape of Palestinian women (and men), the total and utter destruction of complete villages and cities, as well as locking away and torturing over ten thousand Palestinians in Israeli jails – without charge, of course.

The vast majority of muslims and Pakistanis are certainly not rapists and the ongoing genocide in Israel (supported by the UK government) is a completely unrelated problem.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
7 months ago
Reply to  CGW

Some people contend that the wider community knew about what was happening but did not act and so are complicit. That seems plausible though I don’t know enough to express a firm opinion.

But doesn’t this at least highlight that importing millions of people from alien cultures is just a bad idea, regardless of exactly what proportion of them are prone to commit serious crimes?

You and others might regard what is happening in “Palestine” as “genocide” but I am sure the British government don’t, although of course it’s quite legitimate to express the view that our government should be taking a different course of action. Isn’t this a “related problem” when taken in the wider context of global friction between “Islam” as it expresses itself culturally and politically, and “Liberal democratic values” (yes, I know…). I am by no means unreservedly pro-Israeli, but the connections outlined in the article point to an unholy alliance between parties who for various reasons hate our country and culture.

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CGW
CGW
7 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

I am 100% with you against the unlimited and illegal immigration into UK (and Europe). Political asylum is one thing but open borders is a completely different story.

Who is to blame? Mass immigration is clearly wanted by unknown forces dictating policies to our politicians because it is certainly not wanted by the population at large. From the economic migrant’s point of view, it is heaven since once they make it to a Europe ‘paved in gold’, they are likely earning vastly more on our social assistance than from either nothing or an extremely low salary at home (whereby their costs of living at home will be vastly lower than here).

And the ‘unknown forces’ are clearly determined to destroy British traditions and the British way of life. But why are so few politicians arguing against this destruction? That is the interesting question. What does that imply?

But Palestine is a completely different kettle of fish, whereby one can equally argue the Jewish immigrants became the majority, or the more powerful force, in Palestine and are now in the act of ridding themselves completely of the indigenous Arabs. True, if you only read the Daily Sceptic, you will be regularly asked to unconditionally support the Jewish cause (whatever that may be) but outside the so-called West, there is widespread and warranted disgust at what the Israelis are up to with full US and UK support. For daily updates on the situation of so many conflicts, I recommend https://antiwar.com/ with its many links to other media.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
7 months ago
Reply to  CGW

The “unknown forces” are not completely unknown. Seems to me similar to “covid” – an unholy alliance of interests, with some shadowy figures in the background initiating or nudging.

As for “Palestine”, I am afraid every time I think about it, I end up thinking about the old joke: “a tourist in Ireland who asks one of the locals for directions to Dublin. The Irishman replies: ‘Well sir, if I were you, I wouldn’t start from here’.”

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Jack the dog
Jack the dog
7 months ago
Reply to  CGW

Why bring the absurd and complicated israel-hamas war into this story?

Unless it is to say that Muslims have caused endless misery in both cases, in which I would wholeheartedly agree.

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CGW
CGW
7 months ago
Reply to  Jack the dog

Because the author twice uses the term “pro-Palestinian” in association with people he alleges are responsible for the suppression of the fact that organized groups of Pakistanis were/are raping British girls.

But the Palestinian problem and the Palestinian people have nothing whatsoever to do with the Pakistani gangs or raping British girls. On the contrary, the Palestinian people are themselves being raped, tortured and murdered by Israelis 2,500 miles away.

I dislike simplified statements like Palestinians are terrorists, Pakistanis are rapists, Muslims are criminal. There are roughly 2 billion Muslims in the world, 240 million Pakistanis and an ever decreasing number of Palestinians: no way are they all criminal. In fact I am sure the police in their own countries would deal far more decisively and effectively with such criminals as the British police or judicial system.

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Heretic
Heretic
6 months ago
Reply to  CGW

No, the police in their own countries don’t do any such thing, because it is part of their culture and religion.

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beornwulf
beornwulf
6 months ago
Reply to  CGW

Also check out the Grayzone where its mainly Jewish journalists are highly critical of the Israeli government.

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Heretic
Heretic
6 months ago
Reply to  beornwulf

Also Jewish Canadian Henry Makow’s website, originally called “Save the Males”.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
7 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

“Some people contend that the wider community knew about what was happening but did not act and so are complicit. That seems plausible though I don’t know enough to express a firm opinion.”

For some context…

Between 2015 -2020 in Oldham 1753 Rape Gang victims made reports to the Police. So approximately one (1) report per day.

And Andy Burnham wants an inquiry?

😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
7 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

We all know how useful an inquiry would be. It would be to pretend that the issue wasn’t known about and that the solution is “more community outreach” is the answer. Anything to divert attention from the obvious – that “multiculturalism” is a failed experiment.

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beornwulf
beornwulf
6 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Enquiry my arse. Just look at the never-ending so-called covid enquiry. Parameters are set at the outset, so don’t expect any great revelations.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
6 months ago
Reply to  beornwulf

Indeed

The Covid inquiry was I believe intended to reinforce the pretence that there was a “deadly pandemic”. It was an integral part of the psyop.

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CGW
CGW
7 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

And we have the useful question “Why now?” from Neil Oliver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuY-NlKNRSg.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
7 months ago
Reply to  CGW

I’m a great fan on Neil Oliver, but the answer is simple….Musk kept tweeting!

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Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago
Reply to  CGW

Thanks for that link, which I just finished watching— it is brilliant!

Neil Oliver asks the most important question: “Why Now?”, and he has the courage to expose the very heart of Anti-Human Darkness beneath it all.

His answer is that it suits someone’s agenda to suddenly expose the Pakistani Muslim Rape Gangs now, after trying to ignore them for 40 years. He’s absolutely right. But what is that agenda? We must persevere, and keep tirelessly searching for answers.

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beornwulf
beornwulf
6 months ago
Reply to  CGW

I just gave a thumbs-up and the figure went down! What’s going on?

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EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
7 months ago

All the big issues in Britain have been handled the same way. Unlimited immigration, high government debt, EU, Net Zero, rape gangs and no doubt others I cannot immediately recall. The various colours of the left united and were enthusiastically joined by the Conservatives from Major to May.

Any complaint, disagreement or opposition was handled the same way – we were abused and dismissed as ignorant and evil. We all remember the abuse heaped on anyone who dared to question EU membership or unlimited immigration with Tory leaders being in the vanguard (flapping white coats, racists, fantacists, etc).

There will be no retraction or apology. How could there be. The elites have been wrecking this country and reducing us to the state we are in with loss of social cohesion, unable to manufacture, unable to provide our own energy, unable to defend ourselves, and unable to feed ourselves.

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Art Simtotic
Art Simtotic
7 months ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

Well said. Nail hit bang on head.

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DiscoveredJoys
DiscoveredJoys
7 months ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

Well said, but why have the elites been wrecking this country? Is it self-hate fashionably clumping together because of University indoctrination? Is it some global plotting to reduce the possibility of resistance to the New World Order? Is it some assertion by Leftists that the nation should be fractured to enable the rebuilding of a Socialist Utopia?

I have visions of Starmer daring to wear a Make UK Rubbish Again (MUKRA) ball cap, but why?

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
7 months ago
Reply to  DiscoveredJoys

‘but why?”

Basically your brief synopsis is exactly what is happening and I have been banging this drum virtually since the Scamdemic started.

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Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago
Reply to  DiscoveredJoys

“In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and to enjoy it being ruined:

“‘With disdain I will throw my gauntlet
Full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant
Whose fall will not stifle my ardour.

Then will I wander godlike and victorious
Through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force,
I will feel equal to the Creator.'”

Microsoft Word – Richard Wurmbrand – Was Karl Marx a satanist _OCR Version, complete ebook_.doc

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Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago
Reply to  Heretic

That’s all that Satan is: a Hideous Parasitic Worm, ruining and destroying everything Good that God created. Satan is also called Shiva, the Hindu god of Destruction, whose symbol is the Crescent Moon, Toyboy of the Monster Moon Spider Thing called Kali-Allah, worshipped by millions of idiot humans.

And all these poor children being raped and sacrificed are just part of the Parasitic Worm’s destruction of everything good and bright and beautiful, pure and innocent, full of light and joy.

But in the end, Satan/Shiva himself will be annihilated, along with all his allies of their own Free Will, including Kali-Allah, Khepri, Vishnu/Metatron, and the Death Tree that Stands by the Well of Souls. Justice shall be done.

Nothing on Earth, or in the Spirit World, compares to Heaven’s Glory.
And Heaven is where we belong, all the good souls full of light, who have been enslaved here for so long.

Hear our Song of Joy.
Hear our Song of Victory.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
7 months ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

The “elites” of course being the Davos Deviants. Our politicians and assorted establishment bigwigs are simply order takers. It is the DD’s pushing the country to destruction.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
7 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Mark Steyn would point that out, and talk about rape gangs, but is he pointed out, GBN now prefer Tories & trivia. Safe and not edgy!

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
7 months ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

I told someone we nearly had Blackouts this morning, he, like many, were oblivious.

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RTSC
RTSC
7 months ago

And that’s why Two-Tier is desperate to avoid a Public Inquiry. He knows the rot pervades the Establishment.

Not one so-called “Public Servant” has been charged with failing to do the job they were paid to do.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
7 months ago
Reply to  RTSC

Inquiries are cover-ups. We need trials. Not just the perps but more importantly the Enablers : Police, Social workers, MP’s, Councillors. 

No bent judges. The lid will blow within six months.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
7 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

https://frankhaviland.substack.com/p/britain-vs-grooming-its-now-or-never

And along came Frank, brutal and acerbic as ever but he reaches the same conclusions as me namely, no more inquiries we need TRIALS and not just of the perps but more importantly the Enablers – the police, social workers, MP’s, Councillors and any other gutless wonders.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
7 months ago
Reply to  RTSC

Justin Welby wasn’t charged, why is this different. seems the worst that would happen is they lose their job and get shamed.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
7 months ago

I shared a synopsis of the story of Ray Honeyford under the News Round-up, but here is his full article he wrote back in 1984 on education and race, republished by The Telegraph in 2006. Forty years on and you can see that nothing’s changed as he was facing the same challenges, which resulted in him being persecuted and losing his job as a headteacher, and issues due to teaching in an area swamped in ‘multiculturalism’;

”The issues and problems of our multi racial inner cities are frequently thrown into sharp relief for me. As the head teacher of a school in the middle of a predominantly Asian area, I am often witness to scenes which have the raw feel of reality and the recipient of vehement criticism, whenever I question some of the current educational orthodoxies connected with race.

It is very difficult to write honestly and openly of my experiences, and the reflections they evoke, since the race relations lobby is extremely powerful in the state education service. The propaganda generated by multi racial zealots is now augmented by a growing bureaucracy of race in local authorities. And this makes freedom of speech difficult to maintain.

By exploiting the enormous tolerance traditional in this country, the race lobby has so managed to induce and maintain feelings of guilt in the well disposed majority, that decent people are not only afraid of voicing certain thoughts, they are uncertain even of their right to think those thoughts. They are intimidated not only by their fear of giving offence by voicing their own reasonable concerns about the inner cities, but by the necessity of conducting the debate in a language which is dishonest.

The term ‘racism’, for instance, functions not as a word with which to create insight, but as a slogan designed to suppress constructive thought. It conflates prejudice and discrimination, and thereby denies a crucial conceptual distinction. It is the icon word of those committed to the race game. And they apply it with the same sort of mindless zeal as the inquisitors voiced ‘heretic’ or Senator McCarthy spat out ‘Commie’.”

https://archive.md/7pgmx

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Bill Bailey
Bill Bailey
7 months ago

I find it helpful to periodically watch a video, ”The Four Stages of Ideological Subversion”,featuring a KGB defector, Yuri Bezmenov, which highlights how lefties infiltrate mainstream narrative and corrupt everything they touch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yErKTVdETpw

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Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago
Reply to  Bill Bailey

Well done for remembering that heroic Yuri Bezmenov, trying his best to tell the truth to the people, but his warnings were mostly forgotten.

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RTSC
RTSC
7 months ago

Another aspect, which has had no coverage in the Media: what about the Children’s “Charities?”

The NSPCC, Action for Children etc …. I don’t believe for one second that the highly paid “Executives” of these lefty “Charities” weren’t fully aware of the Rape Gangs operating across the country ….. but they too kept schtum; just as they do about other forms of child abuse within a certain religious minority.

So much more important to campaign to stop perfectly decent parents from giving their child a smack on the bottom when they are being wilfully disobedient.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
7 months ago
Reply to  RTSC

A bit like the British Heart Foundation pushing masks and jibby jabs despite the life-changing dangers of both where heart health is concerned.

Or Cancer Research UK which rakes in about £800 million a year and has done for years but still hasn’t found a cure for cancer.

Bullshit.

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JXB
JXB
7 months ago

The other night I watched a documentary about the Chernobyl nuclear accident. Almost immediately after the event the KGB swooped with the major objective being to stop all details and the seriousness becoming public “to prevent public panic and unrest”.

The consequence was many people nearby were not evacuated and received higher radiation doses.

The tyrannical State always uses the same excuse to suppress the truth… prevent public panic, prevent public unrest.

That’s the continuous suppression and downplaying of the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs – supposedly to prevent public unrest/riots.

The use of the term “Asian” was also meant to hide the truth, to mislead, the excuse being to prevent “Islamophobia” – another nonsense word.

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beornwulf
beornwulf
6 months ago
Reply to  JXB

And by using the term Asian they insult the Indians, Chinese etc. Brilliant!

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JXB
JXB
7 months ago

“Unite against Fascism”

Fascists marching against Fascism.

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beornwulf
beornwulf
6 months ago
Reply to  JXB

There’s a phrase I came across in writings about Advaita – the police chief looks for the thief, who is himself. I also think that those who seek to deceive also deceive themselves.

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RW
RW
7 months ago

A bit less drama and more truthfulness would be appropriate here: This is not about child rape because it involves neither children nor rape. It’s statutory rape because it’s about sex acts with sexually mature women below the age of consent in the UK. Apart from that, it starts consensual and then slips into drug-heavy teenage prostitution. That’s bad enough on its own and would be equally bad if all victims were sixteen or above.

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JXB
JXB
7 months ago
Reply to  RW

“… below the age of consent…”

Then it is not consensual is it?

Being below the age of consent means the individual is not mentally, and/or intellectually capable of consent. The age limit is set because it is deemed to be the age below which it cannot be certain that consent can freely be given, for reasons of mental development, of susceptibility to coercion, or persuasion.

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RW
RW
7 months ago
Reply to  JXB

The consent is not legally valid. That’s why it’s called statutory rape. OTOH, rape usually means to force someone to have sex against his or her will. And that wasn’t involved here, either, at least not at the start. This will typically have started out as some kind of teenage romance and turned into something seriously nefarious once the commercially interested parties were sure to be able to control the girl they had been targeting.

This is thoroughly evil stuff, but it’s important to understand how it works in order to prevent or stop it.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
7 months ago
Reply to  RW

Yes someone mentioned on the radio that they usually use some younger, good looking dude to reel them into the net in these gangs.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
7 months ago
Reply to  RW

Said like a true rape apologist, paedophile sympathizing misogynist, but then I’ve had the measure of you and your ilk for a very long time now on here. As I’m not one to do a cowardly little red thumb and run away without commenting, I will proceed to serve you your arse up on a plate. ”It starts consensual” does it? ”This is not about child rape…” Are you fecking serious?? These sadistic abuses were carried out on girls as young as 11 and 12yrs old! They maybe started their periods by then but they’re certainly not sexually mature, nor are they emotionally mature and so are unable, in the eyes of the law, to consent to sex. So a young girl having a pump inserted into her anus to make her ready for anal rape by multiple sick b’stards is ”consensual” on what planet, exactly? Because now you’re another one one here that I’m seriously starting to have concerns about in terms of what you feel is reasonable behaviour towards minors, particularly minor females, as well as adult females. I think your attitude is sick and you need psychological input. Too much time spent in ‘Incel World’ will do that though;

”Difficult to read. It makes me feel sick with anger.

“Failures occurred across every service. Laura Wilson’s sister Sarah was raped in a school playground aged 11. She was so young she “had no understanding of sex” when the attack occurred. The incident was the beginning of “her systematic grooming and sexual assault”, which saw her “driven across the country to be raped by multiple men in one night, and ignored by both the police and social services”.

At one point, her mother showed her phone to officers. It contained 177 numbers for adult Asian men. The police “claimed that the Data Protection Act prevented them from investigating”, and that her daughter’s behaviour was a “lifestyle choice”.

When Sarah reported an attack, the officer she spoke to “laughed and refused to investigate”.”

https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/1878713821457473538

“The men’s names don’t change but the girl’s names change as they become too old to be useful. None of the girls will give a statement as they are scared…”

How the British state looked away while 1,500 girls were abused in Rotherham:

https://x.com/SAshworthHayes/status/1878790539023433991

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RW
RW
7 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Said like a true rape apologist, paedophile sympathizing misogynist, but then I’ve had the measure of you and your ilk for a very long time now on here.

Do you sometime feel like a broken record? Because you surely should. Or maybe not, because records are sort of nice and useful and people like you who apparently find nothing wrong gangs of pimps pumping drugs into vulnerable young women in order to turn them into prostitutes but just salivate at this extremely another nice opportunity for paedocalling someone – this being the right wing equivalent of calling everyone a Nazi – are thoroughly disgusting lowlives.

I’ve seen my share of teenage prostitutes who are part of the drug scene in all kinds of states I would rather have not, including a women of maybe fifteen in Mannheim pedestrian zone begging her pimp with tears in the eyes to at least let her have some Marihuana if she was already forced to be out on the streets making money without something more serious, eg, Heroin, she was clearly addicted to. And because you haven’t, pampered wretch that you are, you dare call me a “rape apologist”?

Pfui.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
7 months ago
Reply to  RW

😂 None of your post even makes sense. Yet again you cannot give a coherent response, either because you deliberately choose to not read my comment properly or you’ve an inability to engage eyes and brain to actually understand what I’ve just said. What are you even accusing me of here? Because I’d bet any money you like you can’t back it up with any supporting evidence.
Touched a nerve clearly though. 😲That’s what happens when somebody holds a mirror up to your behaviour and you get an unwelcome reality check. Nothing left in the tank, have you? Zero. So off he goes having a right paddy because you’re that impotent. You were called out, everybody’s seen what you are and what have you in your arsenal?🤔 “Pampered wretch…”?!🤣 Keep on scraping that barrel, clown boy. I see you. I see exactly what you are!🤡 F***ing nonce scum!

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
7 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

All that was done to those girls was violent and coercive, you are scrapping the barrel with your nonce jibes that come across as unhinged to say the least.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
7 months ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

Two paedo-sympathizing rape-apologists gravitating towards eachother in a show of mutual support, like flies round shit. Now there’s a surprise, you bloody creep.
Shall I bad-mouth your idol Huw Edwards, then you can really flip out? I know how much that triggers you.😆

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Jack the dog
Jack the dog
7 months ago
Reply to  RW

I don’t agree at all.

Did these poor kids agree to have petrol poured over them, or to have broken bottles inserted in them?

In fact it was so consensual many of them went to the police (who handed them back to their tormentors).

Both the law and human decency are clear that young girls cannot give consent. So called “statutory” rape is rape.

This is an appalling scandal which shames our country. Vile crimes perpetrated over decades with the full cooperation of all the agencies who are supposed to protect us.

This whole episode has upset me very very deeply.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
7 months ago
Reply to  Jack the dog

So is it rape in Germany when the AOC was 14. Or Mexico where I believe it it 12. Here is was 12 up until around 1885 when feminist campaigners called to rase it due to child prostitution in London.

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Jack the dog
Jack the dog
7 months ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

So according to you it wasn’t all that bad then?

Interesting take but not one I would dare lay claim to, and in fact it disgusts me.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
7 months ago
Reply to  Jack the dog

Not at all, I make a distinction between consensual and coercion. But the lady above lumps everything under rape and that is despicable. Read the Rind study 1998. There are plenty more but this was a large one covering many studies on childhood sex and consent.

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Heretic
Heretic
6 months ago
Reply to  Jack the dog

You may remember that Ron Smith admitted to being a paedophile on here some time ago.

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Heretic
Heretic
6 months ago
Reply to  Jack the dog

Well said!

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Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago
Reply to  RW

You cannot honestly say that it all “starts consensual”, or “involves neither children nor rape”, or that they were “sexually mature women”!!! A teenager is not a woman. No human in their right mind would ever consent to be passed around amongst some of the most hideous, repulsive males in the world to commit degrading acts, especially not children of 11-12 years old.

Some of the victims were kidnapped and held as sex slaves for years, forced to be impregnated again and again by their Muslim kidnappers, who took all the babies away at birth to sell them as sex slaves. One British teenager was forced to have four babies by her kidnapper, all of which were taken from her at birth.

It apparently starts with DRUGS, like those DATE-RAPE DRUGS that render the victim unconscious, as in the recent horrific case in France.

“Grooming” is just another word for Mind Control, and YOU CANNOT BLAME THE VICTIMS.

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Gezza England
Gezza England
7 months ago

Apparently this sort of child rape only began in the 1950s when the first Pakistanis arrived here. How strange….

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Heretic
Heretic
6 months ago
Reply to  Gezza England

Yes, and few people seem to realise that Gang Rape was Virtually Unknown in the West before mass immigration from the Third World, particularly Muslims and Hindus, whose culture encourages gang rape. I also remember reading an article about how shocked US and UK troops were at “The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan”. It’s not only girls and women who suffer gang-rape.

Remember Kriss Donald, the 15-year-old Scottish teenager who was walking down the street with a friend when he was seized and forced into a car by a Pakistani Muslim gang, who gang-raped him, sodomized, tortured and mutilated him, castrating him and gouging out his eyes, before pouring petrol on him and setting him on fire in a local park near a river. He tried to blindly crawl towards the sound of the river to put out the flames, but died before he could reach it. And the last sound he heard on earth was the sound of their laughter.

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ellie-em
ellie-em
6 months ago
Reply to  Heretic

I feel ashamed to admit that I have never heard of the horrendous murder of the poor lad, Kriss Donald. Nearly 21 years ago it happened and this is the first time I have read anything about him. Another blatant cover up of real news in order not to offend the ‘ethnic minorities’ by bringing heinous crimes to the attention of the public.
RIP Kriss.

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Derry104
Derry104
6 months ago
Reply to  ellie-em

Yes it is instructive to compare the publicity given to the Kriss Donald case and that given to the Stephen Lawrence case. Another thought that I often have about Stephen Lawrence is this – how do the mothers of other murdered black boys – particularly those murdered by black boys – feel when they see how their son’s death is treated by comparison with the death of the sainted Lawrence?

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Heretic
Heretic
6 months ago
Reply to  Derry104

The media and politicians lavished attention on the Stephen Lawrence case because it was so rare, white people murdering Ethnic Africans, and they were desperate for evidence of the “victimhood” of Third World immigrants to the West.

It was none other than the then Labour leader Ed Milliband who nominated Lawrence’s mother, now Baroness Doreen, for a peerage. There she sits in the House of Lords, while Kriss’s mother Angela Donald got nothing but “decades of pain”, as she later described her feelings.

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Heretic
Heretic
6 months ago
Reply to  ellie-em

Yes, it was all ignored by the mainstream media, as you rightly said. The ringleader of the Pakistani Muslim gang spent his time in prison writing poetry about how much he hated white people. No doubt he’ll soon be back on Scottish streets again after his holiday-camp leisurely time in prison, given a free council house and full welfare benefits. I feel so sorry for Kriss Donald’s family, who may even have to encounter his murderers one day, free on the streets.

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coviture2020
coviture2020
6 months ago

Laurie what community relations?

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Archimedes
Archimedes
6 months ago

One of the most serious parts of this is the silence of most of the Pakistani community. Perhaps there is too much to be gained by arbitraging the legalities around identity politics than by taking a vocal stand on this rape gang issue. Had these crimes been perpetrated by gangs of white ethnicity on those of Pakistani heritage then there would surely have been huge noise from the Pakistani community, as there have been huge noises over much lesser issues. And therein resides the ‘arbitrage’, now a common feature in British politics, society, and mainstream media. The way the identity politics and protected characteristic legalities are presently framed leads to ‘moral hazard’, with the above duplicity as the inevitable outcome. Nothing is going to change until the underlying legalities are reformed to address this duplicity but the present government comes across as heading in totally the opposite direction. Hard to know if it is intentional or naive but it is probably a mixture of both.

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SomersetHoops
SomersetHoops
6 months ago

Its time we realised that the far left UAF are at least as bad as the BNP if not worse. If fact on the grooming gang issue the BNP were right and the far left UAF were wrong. When Starmer refers to everyone who doesn’t agree with him as far right, it just proves he is far left and needs to be labled and treated as such. Its no wonder Trump wants nothing to do with him and while Starmer is our Prime Minister our relations with America will suffer.

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beornwulf
beornwulf
6 months ago
Reply to  SomersetHoops

Peter Hitchens has the measure of this man Starmer. He’s a flag-bearer for the real revolution started by Bliar and co.

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