There are ways to make decisions and there are the actual decisions one makes. The former is about procedures, the ‘how’ questions. The latter is about substantive calls, the ‘what’ questions. Now it only takes a moment’s thought to realise that no method or procedure for making decisions will be perfect. We are fallible, biological creatures. We humans are in the ‘least-bad’ business. And for me, it has long seemed that the least-bad way to make political decisions was to let the numbers count. Majoritarianism. Democracy in other words, at least in its old-fashioned sense of counting everyone equally and voting. (Human rights lawyer types and top judges have these past couple of decades tried to redefine democracy so that it includes a hefty substantive component, namely that these elites also approve of the decisions made – and of course the judges don’t put it that way; they talk in terms of a decision having to be in keeping with ‘the rule of law’ or ‘sufficiently rights-respecting’ or some such.) But the point is any procedure will sometimes misfire. Majoritarianism misfires, hence Winston Churchill’s famous quip that democracy is the worst form of government… except for everything else. But then, too, letting a bunch of unelected judges have a veto over majoritarianism misfires too. No option is – make that can be – perfect. You pick your poison.
All that means that sometimes you will find yourself in a position where the procedure you think has the best hit-rate for making decisions has, in your view, thrown up a bad decision. Obversely, sometimes a procedure you think suboptimal might throw up a good substantive outcome. So here’s a big question. In those sort of situations do you stand by what you think is the best way to make calls overall or go with the substantive outcome you happen to like in this instance? If you opt for the latter, of course, you can’t blame others whose substantive preferences differ from yours for doing the same. No one’s attachment to majoritarian democracy would then be anything other than skin deep. “I’m for it only as long as it delivers outcomes I like.” And that is plainly not sustainable. Or put differently, with democracy (or any decision-making procedure) you’re going to win some and lose some. The benefit of democracy is that when you don’t like outcomes you can spend a few Saturdays campaigning for the team you like. No substantive call is locked-in beyond the next election. By contrast, if you don’t like what some judges have decided, often under the guise of proclaiming what our supposedly timeless, fundamental rights are, well, all you can do is hope to replace such judges with more congenial ones some time far in the future. (And for conservatives, with a legal caste whose median member is far to the Left of the median voter, this is a mighty big ask.)
That’s some background to what is happening in Canada. Justin Trudeau just resigned after driving his party’s popularity down to 16% in the polls. Parliament is in recess for the Christmas break, due back at the end of January. And the further-Left-than-Trudeau party, the NDP, has promised to no longer prop up Justin’s minority coalition Government. (For cynics, Pierre Poilievre, the Tory leader, has been claiming for months that the NDP would continue to prop up Trudeau until the NDP leader’s gold-plated Parliamentary pension vested – which will happen just before the looming no-confidence vote – and right on cue, as it vests, this party’s leader announced he would bring down Trudeau. This blatant self-serving has tanked the NDP support too. As has the revelation that this socialist party’s leader drives a Maserati – though I’m betting he has fewer houses than Albo.)
So an election is coming. It’s just a matter of when. The current polls indicate this would be near-annihilation for Trudeau’s Liberal party, possibly seeing it fall to fewer than 10 seats – the benefits of a First Past the Post voting system is that it doesn’t work as a protection racket for the two main parties as Australia’s woeful one does. Here’s the problem for the Liberal party. Parliament is due to resume at the end of January and that will mean an immediate no-confidence motion (which will succeed) and an election. The Canadian Libs won’t have time to pick a new leader. Damned if they do and damned if they don’t. That is why Trudeau went to the Governor General and asked her to prorogue Parliament. That’s when the Government has the Head of State put Parliament into a sort of suspended animation. You can’t do that beyond the deadline for the next election but historically around the Anglosphere the democratically elected Government can do it. And it’s happened a lot as you go back in time. In fact, back in 2008 then Canadian PM, Conservative Stephen Harper, asked the Governor-General to do so and she did. It’s a prerogative power. It’s a bog-standard part of our system.
Or it was until British PM Boris Johnson tried to prorogue the British Parliament to get Brexit through in the face of a Tory party with many Remainer MPs who wanted Parliament to block it. Boris wanted to prorogue for a few weeks till it went through. The activist lawyerly caste, to a man Remainers, kicked in and went to court. They got the case expedited to the U.K. Supreme Court in the second Miller case (the first one was about the prerogative power and equally egregious). All 11 judges, to the best of the available evidence, were Remainers. And they overturned 300 years of precedent and inserted themselves – the unelected judges – into the process and quashed Boris’s attempted prorogation. In effect, they gave themselves a veto over its use, wholly disinterestedly you understand.
In that case I liked the would-be substantive outcome, Boris getting Brexit through. With Trudeau’s requested prorogation I would much prefer an immediate election. But you know what? I hate the idea of unelected judges inserting themselves into the process of what’s ‘reasonable’ and ‘appropriate’, as though these nearly wall-to-wall ‘Yes to the Voice’ Australian judicial types are representative of anyone. If Trudeau tries to avoid an election for an extra month or two the voters can deliver a remedy, a harsh one. Of course the activist lawyer types love judicial involvement as regards what’s reasonable. (It’s becoming an epidemic in Australia.) So expect them to bring a case (here’s one already) to block Trudeau. For all the reasons above I hope they lose. (And unlike the Brexit case, Trudeau has appointed just about every top judge in Canada – wall-to-wall politically sympathetic Lib judges – so cynics can draw their own conclusions about outcomes.)
But remember. Best procedure should trump the odd substantive win under a bad procedure.
James Allan is the Garrick Professor of Law at Queensland University. This article first appeared in Spectator Australia.
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What? Most people I spoke to about it (all academics btw) now think the talisman on their face took care of it and will do so again.
Yes. The vast majority is that stupid now, especially the nominally highly educated.
Amazing, Covid kills the elderly and frail, flu kills teenagers up, good going lockdown nutters. If only someone had raised the alarm a year ago!
Excess teenagers will die from heart attacks and micro blood clots too.
Oh God, what do I do? If I go out I’ll catch covid and die but if I stay in I’ll lose my immunity to flu and I’ll die of that.
Far from doing any good whatsoever, lockdown policies have altered the natural flow of seasonal ailments detrimentally.
And God knows what has been done immunologically to the young by removing them from the protection/ challenge/ stimulation of the herd. My eldest has been ill, twice since returning to school having hardly been ill in the previous ten years…
Really? The consensus prior to all of this seems to have been that naturally-acquired immunity to influenza is broad and long-lasting (see this, for example). This is just more speculative hysteria.
Indeed, it’s part of the vaccination campaign. Vaccinate against the deadly flu.
Yup, I got swine flu whenever that was a big thing, never had flu since.
This seems to continue the theme of “its all been a fucking disaster.”
Science in the level of “hey you know what would held reduce pests in Australia? Release thousands of cane toads.”
Doing something untried and unprecedented that goes against the way nature has balanced itself for millions of years. What could possibly go wrong?
Oh yeah, everything.
“Science in the level of “hey you know what would hel[p] reduce pests in Australia? Release thousands of cane toads.” “
A great analogy.
I am reminded of the old lady who swallowed a fly… and I now realise the nursery rhyme never mentioned it was scientific advisors who suggested she swallow a spider… and other advisors who then “solved” the spider problem…
Rebrand back better. Flu replaced with Covid, Covid replaced by flu.
Lockdowns proven to reduce immunity. Let’s have another lockdown this winter.
Well you would wouldn’t you if you want to make the population even more poorly?
It will not be called lockdown – it will be a firebreak or something – and consist of wfh, masks in all inside venues, highly enforced, hand scouring, and “vaccine” passports -no meeting friends unless they have vps etc, and the list of things impossible without a vp growing daily.
I wish the newspapers would just go back to reporting the news and leave the speculating about what might happen next to us because at best their speculation is rubbish and at worst they are trying to “shape the narrative” to suit their own sponsors.
Yes, this is a propaganda piece.
It’s what they contracted to do way back:
I still remain very curious as to how a highly infectious respiratory virus of much the same size as SARS-COV-2 could be virtually eliminated through the exact same cloth muzzles, paw-rubbing, and recoiling in horror from our fellow humans that had little to no effect on SARS-COV-2.
Any takers?
It is a conundrum lacking resolution.
I’m curious how Scientists can look at that graph, and look at the covid data, and the symptoms of each, and not wonder if some of the covid might actually have been flu. Does flu only spread when you’re walking to the toilets in a pub, like covid?
When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. When the only test you have is covid PCR, everything looks like covid.
It could not. All that presumably happened is that one virus has displaced another, just like there tend to be very few prevailing flu strains every season. It has everything to do with competing viruses and nothing to do with our non-working “prevention” measures.
As Toyah rather badly “sang” in the 1980s – “It’s a Mystery”!
It’s the clown show.
The Great Barrington was the middle way that would have been scientifically sound. Although tricky enough to implement, it would have been much more cost effective that’s for sure.
Except now we have lockdowns to save the vaccine. Jesus wept
one person’s inflated costs are another inflated profits.
I am getting so angry with this now. Just who in their right mind thought that flu disappeared last year? Only a complete moron would believe that. It is obvious that Covid-19 figures were inflated by flu cases. The PCR test is unable to distinguish between the two. And now because many were tricked into an unlawful house arrest and self-induced social isolation, natural immunity has reduced. Which of course the experimental gene therapy has reduced even further.
Why are people falling for this? Why aren’t those responsible for this on-going human tragedy behind bars? Why is the likes of Ferguson and Van-Tam even give air-time?
I am sick to death of these criminals just getting away with it, day after day.
The PCR test only detects corona. If you have both flu and corona at the same time, it will report corona, ignore the flu.
Not for 45 cycles and above.
It was stated quite openly in September 2020 that the figures for flu would henceforth be counted WITH those for ‘covid’. I didn’t keep the link, unfortunately, but I remember it being said – I thought at the time people were remarkably relaxed about it!
Van-Tam knows how to hype up an epidemic. He can be seen in the audience at this lecture by Marc Van Ranst, the Belgian Flu Commissioner
https://www.bitchute.com/video/D4GBLKcNE1fj/
On another point, I wonder how many cases of Flu last winter were misdiagnosed as Covid
He sure was there with a smirk on his face. Scroll to 19:56
They didn’t need to ”misdiagnose” – it was intended they should be counted as ‘covid’ anyway.
Law of unintended consequences. Maybe that is what the Tories can change their name to. Would be more precise.
We have 100k years of human development that has constructed immune systems based on regular contact with one another. And we chose to drop well-established pandemic responses to mirror a brutal regime’s plans, and now evolutionary development will hit us anew. Idiocy reigns supreme.
But hey, put on a thin screen of fabric and all will be just dandy.
Can anybody seriously believe that that chart is correct? Flu viruses used to peak quite hugely on an annual cycle but suddenly last year because there was another virus in town flu just didn’t bother??
It has to be either last year’s flu was misreported as covid or ‘flu’ is such a generic term for viral respiratory diseases that all previous peaks could have include covid-type virii but no-one really noticed.
Either way is doesn’t justify any of the bo****ks we have been going through over the past 18 monhs or do.
Apparently when the HK flu emerged in 1968 it caused all other flu strains to effectively disappear the following year. But they came back again two or three years later.
So a novel and more contagious respiratory virus elbowing all other respiratory viruses aside for a period isn’t unprecedented.
But the suspicion that flu was always there but no-one found cases because everyone was focused on TeH Coronavirus – or that many cases of “COVID” in the winter just gone were actually flu but were misdiagnosed for political reasons, remains valid…
One explanation I came across – not sure how well established but it was presented as plausible – was then getting infected causes the body to produce Interferon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interferon which signals cells to heighten their anti-viral defenses. When a particular infection becomes overwhelmingly prevalent as has Sars-Cov-2 (not saying it is a really bad virus, just that it is all pervasive) then most people encounter it, the side effect of the Interferon is that they are then less susceptible to other infections.
Add the misidentification of all and any infections as Covid19 (as realarthurdent notes) the effect could well be to make the other infection – influenza in this case – to seemingly disappear.
I’d also note that this time last year there was a big influenza vaccine push, because of the huge wave of influenza which would occur (yeh, sure). No doubt that would be hailed as a success, but I suspect it had bugger all to do with it.
Or did the flu vaccine push give rise to cases of ADE which were misdiagnosed as Covid?
I like the interferon explanation.
You also need to consider that flu vaccines, thanks to the failed swine flu “pandemic”, turned out as a marketing flop and would have been a hard sell. So the pharma bosses needed a “brand novel virus” to make the prospect of life-long vaccination appear attractive to their terrified buyers once again.
An interesting hypothesis here.
Has coronavirus asserted itself once again as the dominant virus putting the flue genie back in it’s bottle?
https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/the-disappearance-of-influenza.
With evidence from here.
https://apps.who.int/flumart/Default?Hemisphere=Northern&ReportNo=5
This first paragraph from the substack may whet your appetites.
The flu is gone. This is not an illusion. It’s not down to the wilful or mistaken misdiagnosis of Corona or anything like that. Most countries have long-standing influenza surveillance programs, entire offices of people whose job it is to find and track the flu. These programs are still running, and influenza tests are still widely administered across the world. Despite all of this searching, nobody can find anything but a few outliers. As a seasonal phenomenon in the northern and southern hemispheres, influenza has disappeared.
Indeed.
More people making decisions on aerosol respiratory diseases should first read R.Edgar Hope-Simpson on the transmissibility of influenza. [Hint: we still don’t understand how strains come and go or how they do so as quickly and pervasively as they do.]
This! ^^^^ We really don’t understand how they work, what viruses really are, etc. A strange/sophisticated form of signal ( to trigger certain defences ) in response to poisonous or otherwise stressful environmental conditions? And yes, they still haven’t shown how exactly flu spreads, because on its own the virus does not cause illness.
Very interesting indeed! Thank you very much for the excerpt and link!
Of course the answer to this problem, we will be told, is VACCINES. MOAR VACCINES! Get your vaccines, mix and match, two for a pound the vaccines, hurry now while stocks last!
But the flu vaccine has never been particularly effective, partly because every year the vaccine developers need to have a guess on which flu strains are likely to be active in the coming winter. This year this is even more likely to be a problem since, in the apparent absence of any flu at all last winter, how on earth will they know which strains are going to come surging back?
I also wonder whether the resurgence of the flu will be used as another “Project Fear” to push the COVID vax to 5-12 year olds when they are given their flu vax in early December.
And finally, not that I’m suggesting that our government or health authorities are evil or wish elderly people harm, obviously, this would be a good narrative to explain away the wholesale deaths of many elderly this winter in care homes and hospitals and blame it on something other than the true cause.
We are certainly being primed for that as they are claiming that it is ‘SAFE’ to receive both flu and covid jabs at the same time.
At least they haven’t said its OK to put them in the same syringe – but give them time.
There is clearly a changed definition of SAFE as SAFE now includes paralysis stroke blindness heart attack pericarditis myocarditis etc etc etc up to death.
Just wait for the universal mRNA++ flu vaccines already in the pipeline. The current campaign is just to whet your “appetite”.
Sensation: – Over 65,940,000 Alive this winter
I’m in a room on my own and I can’t see any of them this is nonsense!
Should there be particular concern about what’s in this year’s flu vaccination? I have read a couple of items raising this concern.
Or is it more likely that flu will be used as the excuse to mask vaccine initiated deaths?
Looks like they have rolled out cuddly teddy bear Van Tam (yek) to start the coercion in his own inimitable way.
Am expecting the messaging and fear mongering to ramp up from now on. Was asked at the chemist this week whether I had had ‘my’ flu jab.
This whole area is a dog’s dinner of speculation. The degree of absence of ‘flu recently beggars belief, and has been a confused picture because of mis-diagnosis stemming from the Covid rush.
Then we have the absurd actual and information distortions caused by the barmy NPI measures and collapse of client-focussed public health as the needs of Big Pharma and its political allies took over.
Bluntly – what data can we now trust? This is a further turn of the screw.
… and thinking further, this question of ‘trust’ is fundamental to the whole disaster.
Of course, ‘trust’ can tip over into naivety, but a certain core of expectation is essential to the healthy functioning of society.
This has been blown out of the water with its exploitation, inherent in the Covid narrative.
So we are truly screwed in terms of one of the fundamentals, both physiological and psychological, for a properly functioning society.
As always, demolition is easier than reconstruction.
My talisman for warding off all diseases has been wearing an onion around my neck. Not only have I not caught Covid, but I also haven’t had a heart attack, had cancer, a stroke or any other dibilitating condition. Shows you how powerful wearing an onion can be.
(I’ve also not been jabbed, positively gone out of my way to touch people, ignore masks, hand gunk and have tried to live as normally as a sane person can do in a world full of the insane).
“There is also concern about the effectiveness of this year’s jabs, because the lack of flu last year made it harder for scientists to sample the virus and predict the dominant strains.”
So what, exactly, are they planning to jab into the unsuspecting/trusting this time.
Just as with the ‘thevaccine’ they are just shooting in the dark and hoping the virus is going to be prevented from causing disease by the anticipated stimulation of our immune systems from the gloop in the syringe.
Never had bad flu, never had a flu jab. Nearly did when there was a chance that the ‘flublok’ non-adjuvanted product was demonstrated to be both effective and much quicker to produce (meaning that there was less guesswork required to ensure the vaccines were relevant to circulating strains) but….. then the company with the patents was bought out by Sanofi and the flublok never saw the light of day.
Then when the outbreak wrought havoc in Northern Italy, and in the light of US Army research showing that the annual flu jabs make recipients more vulnerable to other viruses, it was revealed that the annual flu jab given to elderly Italians along the Po Valley was a new quadrivalent gloop experiment. 2+2 = ?
Clearly the fear level isn’t yet high enough, but it will be once the deliberately immune suppressed ‘flu-jabbed’ start dropping like flies as the coronavirus season rolls around.
The flu immunisation being given to children this year contains these strains (I imagine the jab for grown-ups will be the same):
What Fluenz Tetra contains
The active substances are:
Reassortant influenza virus* (live attenuated) of the following four strains**:
A/Victoria/2570/2019 (H1N1)pdm09 – like strain (A/Victoria/1/2020, MEDI 340505) 107.0±0.5 FFU***
A/Cambodia/e0826360/2020 (H3N2) – like strain (A/Tasmania/503/2020, MEDI 339018) 107.0±0.5 FFU***
B/Washington/02/2019 – like strain (B/Washington/02/2019, MEDI 323797) 107.0±0.5 FFU***
B/Phuket/3073/2013 – like strain (B/Phuket/3073/2013, MEDI 306444) 107.0±0.5 FFU***
https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/3296/pil
From https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1018779/Influenza_vaccination_information_document_for_healthcare_practitioners.pdf
“ The timing and magnitude of potential influenza and COVID-19 infection waves for winter 2021 to 2022 are currently unknown, but the JCVI interim advice stated that mathematical modelling indicates the 2021 to 2022 influenza season in the UK could be up to 50% larger than typically seen and it is also possible that the 2021 to 2022 influenza season will begin earlier than usual. “
So, they are just jabbing kids and wrinklies with ‘something we made earlier’ and crossing our fingers that it won’t make them more at risk of other infections.
Ah, where would we be without modelling. [hint, no mass deaths in care homes, no lockdowns, no mask mandates, no business bankruptcies]
?Is this the same quadrivalent vaccine that made the elderly Italians susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 I wonder.
lol @ “mathematical modelling”
Other people’s children.
Yet another unintended consequence of stupid lockdowns! We know they used flu in hospitals to get more false positives for the plandemic. Is Doris really going to force a lockdown this winter, with rising prices, potential blackouts, inflation, unemployment and still try an early election before everything goes to hell?
Guys ‘n Gels,
Me thinks some of you are overlooking a key sentence in the article which includes the dreaded ‘m’ word: ” . . .Officials highlighted modelling from the Academy of Medical Sciences, which suggests this winter the UK could see between 15,000 and 60,000 flu deaths. . .”
:-)))
Wait, modelling isn’t an accurate prediction of reality? What are you saying?!
Models work beautifully, especially when there is no data to check them and you are having a one-off situation that has never happened before. Under those circumstances if you are not satisfied with the model’s prediction, you can always pile up more models, call it ensemble modelling to sound more scientific.
They said covid was much more dangerous than flu and flu deaths, even in a bad year, could never reach the levels of covid deaths. But now they are predicting 60,000 deaths this winter from flu!
Ha, ha, ha, ha! They’re so obsessed with ramping up the fear to get everyone flu-jabbed that they’ve forgotten their own lies. Oh my goodness, let’s just hope nobody notices, eh?
The sad thing is that most people won’t notice – there have been loads of examples of U-turns over the past 18 months, and only a minority even notice them, never mind point them out.
Interesting how Toby mentioned “next month” specifically….insider knowledge?
NHS has had 70 years and experience of previous flu pandemics, so they are well structured to cope. And if they can’t cope then we will all do our bit by banging pots and pans and painting Rainbows…..
Tossers.
oh. And what happened with flu season in the Southern Hemisphere this past winter ? That’s usually the guide as to what junk (50-60% proof) vaccine they stick in. No big flu problems down under ?
and surely the magic masks will save everyone, just like they did in Japan last time flu went rampant.
Officials fear that this winter could see up to 60,000 flu deaths – the worst figure in Britain since the 1968 Hong Kong Flu pandemic – without strong uptake of vaccines.
Uh yeah, sure. Ok.
Vaccines won’t make much difference. We know the flu vaccine isn’t particularly effective, especially in elderly people, because their immune systems don’t respond particularly energetically to the vaccine and therefore don’t create much immunity to the actual virus.
It’s all just more programming of the population to become used to getting vaccines for absolutely everything. If public health really was the objective, they’d be focusing on diet, exercise and vitamin and mineral supplements. But they don’t give a toss about public health. They give a toss about money and control.
Exactly Arthur, well said. Maybe I’m too far down the rabbit hole but I think the population is being primed for vaccines with Covid as the trojan horse. They openly state it in this video for heaven’s sake:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/explosive-video-emerges-fauci-hhs-officials-plotting-new-avian-flu-virus-enforce-universal-flu-vaccination-video/
Just today there was an article how some “African doctors” have developed the first-in-the-world malaria vaccine “after 50 years of research”. It also contained passages how “the vaccine does not really work, so all other malaria counter-measures are still required”. But still a “great success”.
I recall a study concerning flu vaccines that while they reduce the incidence of the particular variants somewhat, there is no evidence for reduction of the rate of respiratory infections overall. So basically, choose your vaccine, then get sick from something else.
European countries with the highest Flu vax rates have the highest CFR re SARS.
Does the vax adversely affect the immune systems ability to otherwise deal with SARS – or does it keep them alive to make future low hanging fruit? Or both?
Maybe all the bloody money spent on covid etc. would have been better spent in actually researching how the immune system works.
But that would never do – some really ugly truths might come out. What’s the betting said research has been done – do you honestly think the bastards would reveal it?
Frank Macfarlane Burnet et al must be turning in their graves.
yes they’d get much better bang for your buck reversing involution of the thymus.
Spanish Minister for Health forced to admit in court by doctors and lawyers that they have no isolates of SARS COV 2 and therefore COVID19 is a FRAUD.
JUSTICE IS COMING TO CORRUPT HEALTHCARE WORKERS & POLITICIANS !
https://www.bitchute.com/video/FQV8IhMKZtAd/
When I read articles like this showing the data it shows, I feel like I am in the middle ages hearing “doctors” discuss the most effective blood letting techniques to heal their patients.
Miasma projections.
‘Professor Jonathan Van-Tam, deputy chief medical officer, said: “Not many people got flu last year because of COVID-19 restrictions, so there isn’t as much natural immunity in our communities as usual.’
Absolutely incredible – you would think that a so-called ‘expert’ who had been backing the governments decision to lock us all up last year and impose restrictions would have fathomed this out before deciding to go along with government policies that would impact natural immunity – many other experts outside of government were predicting this very thing all along but were ignored in favour of listening to government wonks who have been getting it catastrophically wrong since day one – even your average reader with a modicum of intelligence on forums such as this were expressing concerns about covid restrictions and lockdowns impacting immune systems months ago but they were labelled ‘conspiracy theorists’.
There has got to be some kind of retribution over this debacle that could have been avoided if the government had listened to those outside the Westminster bubble.
Nuremburg 2.0 trials would be most welcome at this point.
“Absolutely incredible – you would think that a so-called ‘expert’ who had been backing the governments decision to lock us all up last year and impose restrictions would have fathomed this out before deciding to go along with government policies that would impact natural immunity”
What makes you think he hasn’t fathomed it out? What makes you think he cares one way or the other?
This lot are spinning the narrative to fit the agenda. The vaccines have destroyed immune systems. They know many will die this winter, but better to put the deaths down to flu than have the new ‘vaccines’ look ineffective.
Bingo. Certainly what it looks like…..
Van Tam has no clue what is happening.
He is bound to say that restrictions stopped flu last year.
This must be based on a claim though that flu is less infectious than Covid. It would be good to know how this has been deduced. It sounds like circular reasoning to me. “We had Covid last year but no flu, so flu must be less infectious because our restrictions stopped it.”
He clearly does not want to consider other hypotheses such as the Wallis Hope-Simpson view that there is a dominant respiratory virus each year that somehow outcompetes all the others, which then effectively go away. Covid simply was the dominant one in 2020.
Such hypotheses (and others) are no less evidenced by “science” than the conjecture that flows from his lips.
The 15-60k range also looks like the normal flu season we get every year. Just as with Covid, the flu takes away many frail, older people who are nearly at the end of life. The vaccines are not 100% effective either and in the past there was lots of medical debate as to whether they should even be recommended.
Ultimately, our so called leaders are intoxicated on creating fear and then on feeling good about themselves by thinking they have the solutions to that fear. But in reality they are drunk on power.
This is a human society that objectively has less to be afraid of than any other in human history, with roughly double the life expectancy of only a century or so ago. However, it wants to find things to be scared of.
“Van Tam has no clue what is happening.” I tend to think he knows exactly what is happening – he is powerful and important, as are his mates, and they are all in on a scam that keeps on giving, and his political masters are pleased with him for the same reasons, and he is up to his neck in it.
https://rumble.com/vnbv86-winning-the-war-against-therapeutic-nihilism-and-trusted-treatments-vs-unte.html
Everyone concerned by what lies ahead for us needs to look at this courageous talk by Peter McCullough, who confronts with truth, the lies and deceptions used against the population by their governments
It’s a wonderful talk. Everyone should watch it and encourage their non sceptic friends and family to take a look. It’s an hour long, so one to watch in chunks.
Everyone seems to have a short attention span these days but you can’t distill what he has to say into 140 words or a 30 second soundbite. And watching a whole hour allows you to really feel his sincerity and honesty.
He has the medical authority to challenge the lies.
Dr Merritt also gave a talk at this conference. Can anyone link to it? I am a fan of hers.
McCullough mentions (unimportant, really, in such a blistering talk), but – Eric Clapton is now a friend.
Sorry, you can’t have it both ways. The lockdown cannot prevent flu and be useless against corona and vice versa. The lockdown and masks did nothing to anyone’s immunity. Possibly the increased prevalence of corona infections provided some kind of cross-immunity against the flu. Or as may be, most of the flu cases have been simply mislabeled (people getting infected with both flu and corona, and every case being attributed to corona – because everyone tested for corona and nobody tested for flu)
No doubt those are the same Health Chiefs who recommended/mandated most of the “Rules” for covid in the first place! Jesus wept.
Beam me up, I’m living in the wrong universe.
So it could be as bad as it was 5 years ago – that is what they are saying. So not apocalyptic even if their modelling is right.
This new vaccine, according to reports I have read, has not been tested quite so thouroughly as previous flu vaccines and the effectiveness is said to be below 50%. There is also the question of interaction with CV antibodies or indeed the Covid vaccine itself.
And my suspicions are further aroused by the new “scare Britain” advertising campaign that is just starting, straight out of the Covid playbook.
Anyone aware of the US Army trials that concluded the flu vax significantly increased the risk of getting coronavirus?
“does that mean we’re trapped in a never ending lockdown cycle ?”
The answer is Yes , some of us saw all this from the start but were comprehensively ignored.
Good work Toby and team, you seem to be getting the picture at last, although it’s almost too late now.
They have been diagnosing flu as covid for almost 2 years, now they are going to bring back the flu to conceal the death and sickness caused by the jabs destroying people’s immune systems.
1. Flu didn’t go away last winter: the manipulative b’s just called it Covid.(See PHE Newsletter October 2020).
2. Project Fear is now going full throttle to convince the weak-minded that another lockdown will be “prudent” and in their best interests.
3. Since when has naturally acquired immunity only been very short term?
It’s almost magical the way there was no ‘flu last winter. Nothing whatsoever to do with the Government deciding to identify all respiratory illnesses as “Covid” to bump up the figures and generate fear.
Move along ……
Hanoi Van-Tam scaremongering
I wonder if they’ll try a “Clap for the NHS” again this year?
Even the sheeple got a little fed up with it last year and it waned as the weeks went by.
I was glad it ended as I got fed-up with playing my audio mix of short bursts of clapping, interspersed with bleating sheep and seals barking, out of the front window.
Trouble is the sheeple might have short memories and embrace it once again – unless of course they, their family or friends, have tried to get a doctors or hospital appointment recently that is…
Australia had negligible flu in winter 2021z
Right. That 60,000 – that’d be part of the ‘normal annual wastage’ of 600,000 from ”all causes”, wouldn’t it?
All testing was for Covid not flu. Hospitals & Doctors ordered to attribute all to Covid. It does not mean there was no flu. Also the PCR did not differentiate between the Flu and Covid.