It has been over 10 years since the publication of the Independent Inquiry into organised Child Sexual Exploitation (CSE), also known as the Jay Report, carried out by gangs of mainly Pakistani heritage men in the borough of Rotherham. The Jay report estimated that over 1,400 children and young people, predominantly female and white British, were victims of the gangs and failed by a range of public services including the police, social workers and local councils. This scandal shares similar features to other public sector failures but also has its own unique factors which are worthy of further analysis.
Concurrent themes were found in the Jay Report and the Mid-Staffordshire NHS Foundation Trust investigations of 2010 and 2013 into excess mortality rates at the hospital. Crucial to understanding both is the role that new managerialism played especially in relation to performance management targets. Essentially, frontline services were redirected to meet these targets and frontline staff faced resource cuts and managerial pressure to prioritise organisational goals rather than serve their client group. Police officers were directed to solve car crime and burglary, which counted towards targets, instead of CSE which did not. Meanwhile, the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) declined to take forward prosecutions of CSE because in an adversarial court system, victims that have been repeatedly drugged, traumatised and intimidated did not make effective prosecutorial witnesses.
Similarly, at Mid-Staffordshire NHS Foundation Trust where hundreds of patients suffered poor care and neglect, frontline staff particularly in the Emergency Department (ED) were bullied and coerced into prioritising the four-hour admission or discharge target rather than deliver effective care. The NHS trust board, which did not include a single registered health professional, cut frontline resources including nursing staff and the vital equipment they relied upon to dangerous levels and tasked non-clinical receptionists to carry out triage of patients – a role that should be conducted by experienced nurses with additional training.
New managerialism also fostered bullying cultures and saw whistleblowers intimidated as the status of bureaucrats and non-professional managers was elevated because of their role in the production and curation of quantitative evidence. This led to the ‘McDonaldisation’ of policing, nursing and social work and saw professionals’ role become ever more fragmented and task focused, eroding their professional autonomy, creativity, discretion and compassion. In the clutches of bureaucratised public services, those in need of care were put at greater risk of dehumanisation. The traumatised victim of CSE who required holistic care and support, as well as protection from further intimidation and abuse, is blamed by police officers and social workers for ‘putting themselves at risk’ or ‘consenting to their own abuse’. The patient suffering from dementia lying in an unchanged bed becomes further dehumanised through the failure to deliver the fundamentals of care by exhausted and demoralised nurses.
However, unique to the scandal of CSE is the attempts to silence witnesses, whistleblowers, journalists and politicians to hide away the failures of multiculturalism and protect political power bases. At Rotherham efforts were made, and were largely successful, in undermining Risky Business, an independent organisation which advocated on behalf of and supported victims but was later brought under local authority control.
What perhaps has received little attention is the vulnerability of white British families in a modern high trust society, according to Giddens’s sociologically inspired definition of trust. The Pakistani heritage community has more in common with pre-modern societies based on kinship relations, local community ties, religious faith and tradition compared to white British society based on personal relationships, abstract systems and a future-oriented perspective. This enabled abusers to use their family networks, including children enrolled in local schools and older men working in taxi services, restaurants and public services, to identify, target and abuse their victims. Meanwhile, white British families placed their trust in public servants such as police officers and social workers for protection but when these failed, they were left uniquely vulnerable. Bauman explained how modern citizens, who had given up the right to use violence in their course of their daily affairs, were uniquely vulnerable when the state turned its violence against them. The Jay Report detailed how one family left the U.K. because they had no confidence that the local authorities would protect their child who was being repeatedly targeted by gangs.
A discussion needs to be had about the continued atomisation of white British society and the destruction of the family, including marriage and communities, which has such profound implications for the well-being of children and resilience to external threats. Social workers used the wrong model of child protection at Rotherham, based on familiar patterns of abuse, and removed children from the protective environment of the family and placed them in residential accommodation. This accommodation had been infiltrated already by perpetrators and consequently estrangement from family became a feature of this grooming strategy, along with intoxication through drugs, violent threats and intimidation and trafficking.
Since these scandals came to public attention, little has been done to prevent further harm to the public because there has been no accountability for failings that implicated all the regulatory bodies involved with the protection of the public as well as political leaders. Consequently, highly ranking professionals, senior leaders and politicians continue to oversee further public scandals such as the Post Office miscarriage of justice and the COVID-19 pandemic response. There is now a profound disconnect between democratically-elected politicians, who continue to fail upwards, and the public, leading to the destruction of a previously high trust society. Moreover, until the problem of ‘immoral authority’ is addressed, further scandals associated with multiculturalism, new managerialism and pharmaceutical egress will emerge, and the continued atomisation of our society will leave us and our children more vulnerable to abuse of all kinds.
Dr. Rowena Slope is a Senior Lecturer in Adult Nursing at Bournemouth University and author of Corporate Totalitarianism: Freedom, Power and Technology in the Modern Era and Care in the Iron Cage: A Weberian Analysis of Failings in Care. Subscribe to her Substack.
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fait nuff, it’s well known. Vulnerable should take jab.
Why should the most vulnerable get a treatment when there was never even a pretence of trialling the products on them (and the MHRA ready to state without investigation that they would have died anyway)? I know there is a statistical argument but it is built upon sand (or maybe air).
Nor should any opportunity be missed to mention the whistleblower story in BMJ
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635
It has never been properly reported.
>Why should the most vulnerable get a treatment
to keep them alive?
How’s the smell in the 77th Brigade cave?
They try to mask the awful pong using their False Persona aftershave.
Is that powerful enough to overcome the stench of government bullshit?
No, nothing can do that.
I think he/she’s just a sad troll
Not all trolls are sad!
It lives under a bridge, fol de rol.
Smells of hand sanitiser?
And lubricant, for they doth be wankers.
Corporal ewloe doing a bit of Sunday overtime.
Where’s Fon?
Ewloe in disguise?
With a <1% risk reduction?
There is an argument that people should have a choice but to have a choice you have to have informed consent. I don’t know who would choose to have these products if people were told the truth about them. We recall that last winter a lot of started to die after getting the jabs but before they purportedly became effective.
Because they focus the immune system on fighting off the threat, thereby leaving other flanks exposed. I had shingles after both of mine. I don’t intend to have another.
Almost 90% of the most vulnerable dying “with covid” are double jabbed, so you can just fuck right off with that bullshit.
Given that Covid has no effect on the likelihood of dying on any one day, how long are we expected to keep all over 80s alive for? Until they’re 90? 100? Given that in the most deprived parts of the UK, the average age of male death is 70, and that the average age of death from Covid is over 80, how can we be expected to stop people dying from Covid in particular? How long can we keep people with numerous comorbidities alive for? It obviously comes as a shock to many, but old people and very ill people do die. And, shock horror, not usually of Covid….
That argument was made by a well known journalist in the run up to lockdown 1, there was some initial discussion until it was condemned as heartless and cruel.
It’s been a perfectly position valid ever since, not least among medics of my acquaintance but strictly ‘off the record’.
OK to destroy the lives of children and young people though it seems!
But also an unnecessarily brutal way of putting it. If people dying in the normal course of things (because sadly everyone dies) are found to have a virus present that no one was looking for before what should it mean for policy?
If you scope the conference hosted by the HW, you will see Dr Peter Doshi PhD of BMJ fame scupper the jabs totally. If the vulnerable need treatment they should be given essential vitamins and minerals unless allergic as well as Ivermectin, with HCQ and Quercertin monoclonal antibody infusions as back ups although you might need to emigrate Ito the US for the latter.
In case you had not noticed, as Dr Doshi very inconveniently points out, the trials for these drugs – not vaccines (yawn) – proved no efficacy for preventing infections, death therefrom, transmission and there is as far as I can see/read no evidence they reduce symptoms from viral loads, hence why early treatment regimes worldwide appeared to have “worked” in this “setting” and have prevented hospitalisation which, after all is the headline Mantra from our corrupt and intellectually illiterate government.
It’s not a treatment. Please read the evidence and illuminate us as to how you have reached your conclusions: watching the BBC doesn’t count!
>Why should the most vulnerable get a treatment
to save them from dying?
I’m the most vulnerable and I’m not dead despite being out and about as a key worker throughout Lockdown 1, Lockdown lite and Tiers. No mask, no vaccine.
That almost like saying that this appocalyptic virus isnt quite as bad as the government/.WHO/NHS etc have made out crazy idea You need to die quickly before somebody kills you
Wanna work on your punctuation and syntax a bit there?
It’s no good they don’t teach Ai English grammar in bot school.
Down votes: snowflakes on DS, who knew?, as they say.
Certainly not down my way, not much of a first wave or second.
Met one chap whose dad had died ‘of covid’.
Turns out he was 80 and had dementia which nobody had told the son were contributory factors for Covid mortality.
(But I did? natch).
Come on now. As I understand it, no one survives Covid. Literally no one. We’re all dead. As well as having long covid. And deep Covid. And I’m dead.
I’ve died of it twice and so has my wife.
Someone got widespread attention in the popular press by claiming that three close relatives had died ‘of covid’ which is statistically a non starter.
Matt “crocodile tears” Hancock?
They might have been related to the New Jersey family for whom everyone shed tears until the New York Post published their photo. Morbidly obese, all three.
Luxury! We haven’t died once!
Asymptomatically, I presume?
We are the offspring of survivors of such pandemics happening every few centuries or so since the dawn of man 1 or 2 million years ago.
Do the math depending on your place along the scary/not scary spectrum.
Virus were around long before we came along.
NB virus = singular and plural, cf sheep.
Math?
Math?
Surely not KV.
It’s an Americanism so I’m just being purist.
What a thoroughly nasty sentiment. Perhaps you could give us a list of people you think are worthy of saving, by age, occupation, PC quotient and time since last jab.
This is the same creature who suggested on the forums that people should be imprisoned simply for living life normally because doing so puts other people “at risk”. It/they probably work for Facebook as they are trying to get the world to live “life” through their new video game.
Probably taking time out from the Daily Mail least liked comments section.
Does it save them from dying? Do you have any evidence to support that bold claim?
If you believe that then you should definitely write to Santa Claus this year, one of his elves told me all the especially good boys and girls will get whatever they want this Christmas, but only if they get all their jabs, obey the government and smite the non compliant. Good boy.
oh if only if we had a vaccine or a pill or other tratments or realised that millions now have natural immunity and the only reason for the hysteria is that 150000 peole didnt REALLY die of covid some of them died at the same time of hearing the word Covid… not the same thing How many people will actually die of hysteria.So we are back to the whole of society ,a genearlly helthy society staying indoors and not going to school /work to protect the elderly some of who are also healthy.Have there not been discussions that this idea is genarlly not uicceesful .Yes there have so the only reason for threatening another lockdown is control which would also proove that the NHS has done nothing in the last 12 month to prevent exactly the same thing happeneing as last year and next year and every year after that .Fuck the NHS they should pull their collective finger out and do the job they are paid to do
Even if we look at excess deaths (a much lower number), that still doesn’t take into account that this number fluctuates anyway – and there is never any official consideration of how many people might have died of flawed lockdown and treatment policies, and later from the “vaccines”.
Yeah, that’s a very flawed argument, everyone dies, no exceptions its just a fact of life, besides the “vaccines” seem to have a nasty habit of actually killing people!
Don’t believe me, prove it ain’t so, the precautionary principle asserts it’s your obligation to do so and as you’re so concerned about saving people from unnecessary cause of death I know you’ll agree with me.
Wrong. Get an education.
I believe most of them already have – how many do you think they’ll need to be fully protected (to the nearest dozen)
Depends on what you class as vulnerable?
I’m almost 73 and I certainly don’t put me or Mrs FP in that category, in fact I believe we are more healthy than the maskateers.
Oh you oldie, you: I’m a young 68 (tada!). Mind you, I fully concur!
Cheers.
I’m triple vulnerable, mid 60’s, comorbidities and recent months of chemo.
As X2 vaxxed I should have had notification about booster but have not. Not that I will take it as the reason for doing so originally no longer applies.
2 months ago NHS Vaccine Central urged me to get a third Primary jab (as distinct from booster) from my GP Practice who said it was not their job as they are only ‘commissioned’ to further jab the 75+.
Which might account partly for the low takeup Javid is worried about.
What a shower.
Indeed!
Too right! many GP practices have opted out of doing boosters.
We are all vulnerable to this relentless attack by the Government, SAGE, and the others who are making money out of this scam.
Blackmail – take the jabs or be punished.
Or become very rich from a recently awarded PPE contract which by George your not going to give up lightly .Put your masks back on and then buy some more .Serioisly have the actual population not realised from their own experiences that the propagande show is going down the ratings its over in real terms so take your ridiculous masks off!!!
It is fait nuff. Vulnerable should take all jabs for ever whether they want to or not. Prevent them from die or sickness. Stupid if don’t.
Yes…. but then dont threaten people to take a vaccine after allowing the media to report stories of its lack of efficiency .You cant have two stories running side by side like this .One telling you buy it the other warning you not to waste your money
said in irony or parody?
Weak parody. Sorry.
Most over 50s are not ‘vulnerable’. Another term, like ‘mental health’ (particularly when people say that they ‘suffer’ from it – how can you suffer from health?) that makes me want to hit someone!
Just like you’ve had a mastectomy, or perhaps a vasectomy, or had your haemorrhoids seen to, or had HIV/STI treatment recently? Why not share that information with the rest of us? It’d be interesting to know what YOUR medical decisions have been, since you think you have a right to tell others what THEY should have done to them.
Yeah, get your extra jabs so the hospitals ARE overrun and we WILL lockdown.
How about NO, Mr Jabbid.
The narrative is so strained right now. Every single pronouncement is just creaking with contradiction and the sound of moving goalposts.
You really have to be horizontal not to hear the collapse underway.
Who will be blamed most, the unboosted oldies and vulnerable or unvaxxed altogether?
Dynamite question. They seem to be schtum about the unjabbed now. Perhaps because they know they aren’t going to convince us ever, whereas the oldies might be persuaded. Lots of people I know who are eligible for a booster aren’t going for theirs…
The unvaxxed, definitely – they really hate us!
How long before they broadcast Two Minutes Hate on Radio Four every morning instead of Thought for the Day?
I’ve heard they’re replacing Sailing By pre 00.45 shipping forecast..
Amounts to the same thing these days if you’re a normal Christian.
its not restricted to two minutes …
Couldn’t agree more. 6 months ago I was carrying a sense of existential dread. Now it’s turning into comedy.
If only everbody now felt like that ,a mass moment of realisation .Im still seeing 18 year olds at bus stops masked up to the nines ten minutes befroe the bus comes standing next to little old ladies who dont give a shit .Somethings gome terribly wrong
Says a lot more about the 18 year olds than the little old ladies.
Blame the teachers, I doubt if it’s peer pressure judging from the wild and carefree behaviour of students outside our 6th form College last year.
I have to give my own large secondary institution some credit – it was told by the local authority that because ‘covid’ ‘cases’ were ‘high’, we would need to take ‘additional measures’ including masking. The reaction from the school has been laid back to say the least with even the most zealous former Covidians displaying a surprisingly lax approach. I think the tide is turning and people are starting to get genuinely bored of it all.
Christmas is overated anyway!
Yes,it spoils the winter.
Spending money you haven’t got, on people you don’t like, who don’t want anything anyway.
It spoils my watching of YouTube which is now overrun with Xmas adverts.
Thay have joined the list of ads to be clicked OFF asap alongside those preaching at me about diversity or brandishing their green credentials.
The algorithm might notice one day.
Most of them sound like politicians
I expect Javid would like to have all the Christian churches knocked down and mosques to be built in their place.
You get what you order.
What I meant was that i wont be blackmailed. If they want to cancel xmas, go for it. I’m not having another injection.
And I’m not cancelling Christmas either!
Covid 19 is overated anyway !
I agree – not a fan and usually work through it (which I have no problem with doing) – but that said I don’t like to see vindictive policitians trying to ban it for those who do like it.
Apart from the fact that this joker has zero to do with Christmas as something celebrated by those of us baptised Christians, I’m damned if I will be threatened or blackmailed by some Tory chiseller.
I agree with your final point regarding threats but the idea that he has no connection to Christmas is lazy thinking.
You don’t have to be baptised Christian to value Christmas and Javid’s wife is a practicing Christian as are their children.
Xmas is celebrated worldwide as cultural schmaltz, take a look at Dubai airport or Tokyo as Yuletide approaches.
Sajid Javid’s exhortation-cum-threat is consistent with the rulers already having decided to impose another lockdown.
Whether the order will be lifted when spring comes is another question. Some may view “track and trace” as a multibillion-pound scam or flop that is best forgotten about. That won’t be how the rulers see it. They’ll be back for more, sure as eggs are eggs – or as sure as the sheeple keep on carrying the microwave trackers marketed as “cleverphones”. (Did I get the lingo right?)
Meanwhile, there seems to be a news blackout on the story of the two children, Mohammed Habib and Harry Towers, who died suddenly in Newcastle-under-Lyme, the first of a heart attack, the second of a brain tumour. No news about this for 4 days. No quotes from family members. As far as I can tell, not even their ages have been published, just what school “years” they were in. This reeks of a D Notice or equivalent.
Their 2 school year groups indicate 14-16 years old.
May I ask how you found out about the causes of death? You are right, there seems to have been a complete news blackout. I understand the arguments for respecting the privacy of the families at this difficult time, but I also believe that there is an overriding public interest in getting to the truth about whether they were recently jabbed. The question is how can we find out?
If I were a journo I’d just message everyone on social media who has indicated that they have anything to do with the school. Someone will speak up. But then are they forbidden from writing about it?
I think the headmaster of the school has said that we shouldn’t speculate on social media, but we need to know if these deaths happened after the boys were vaxxed for reasons beyond …
Mohammed Habib died on 24 October, Harry Towers on 30 October.
Have inquests been opened yet?
Mohammed was buried on 26 October. No idea about any burial or cremation or funeral for Harry.
Handy that, what with Moslems requiring a speedy burial but that is routinely overridden if the Police consider the body to be ‘evidence’ or the Coroner wants to take a look.
Their former classmates will know whether the victims were jabbed or not.
Brain tumour v unlikely linked – but the jab might have hastened its uncovering, I guess. I’ve read a paper on that having happened in adults.
Yes the jabs lower the immune system and underlying illnesses come to the fore. If the lad had cancer he would almost certainly have been jabbed as a vulnerable person.
It’s horrible to speculate like this, but as I said, we have a right to be told what happened, if only to potentially prevent more deaths of healthy young people and children.
The clot shots also mess up blood sugar and Tumours LOVE sugar.
Supposed causes of death were in the initial reports from the popular papers and locals that I posted here on the morning it first came to public attention 2 or 3 days ago.
My supposition was that school parents were not stupid, ie about guessing the more likely reasons.
Error
Anyone fancy googling the headlines, I’ve gtg
According to a local newspaper, in the comments section beneath the article relaying the story a local lady stated that she knew both boys and they had been injected.
The info about causes of death comes from the Church Militant, who write “A source close to the school told Church Militant Habib died of a heart attack while Towers suffered a fatal brain tumor.”
(FWIW, I don’t share that publication’s religious outlook.)
According to the Sun, “Harry and Mohammed’s fellow pupils and loved ones are being supported by Staffordshire Educational Psychology Service.” You can almost hear them tell people “We’d ask you not to post anything to social media”, perhaps even with threats on top when speaking to pupils.
No sad mum and grieving siblings photos
Look Santa in the eyes and tell him……..etc etc etc
I’m not so sure. I think they will just use the threat of lockdown as the sword of Damocles to force vaccination upon everything with a central nervous system.
Yep, I’ll be doing my bit in not celebrating Christmas this year.
Instead of meeting up with my relatives and opening presents and having a Turkey dinner, we’ll be having a work meeting around a table that just happens to have a roast turkey with all the trimmings.
Call it a working lunch. We’ll also be exchanging things that look like presents, but it’s all to do with work and tasting port and wine for work purposes.
Just like we did last year!
I haven’t done Chistmas Dinner since my mum died so it won’t affect me much but I wish you the very best for your Working Christmas Lunch.
Last year I had my Christmas as normal with my family, even though our area was completely “banned” from having ANY visitors on Christmas day! And I’ll do the same this year. They can do one, over and over.
There was a report from last Xmss day (24 hours family mingling permitted) of a family getting together by meeting up at one of the motoway services with a publc footbridge linking each side.
The two parties deposited their respective gifts in the middle of the bridge before retiring as the others started to do likewise.
Give me strength.
Snap, Helena. Completely normal Christmas for my family.
love it – no zooming allowed!!!
Utterly Pathetic. Bullying and Coercian are crimes according the Gov.UK website
Dont know what they mean by lockdown, didnt do it the first time or any other time and it was no problem.
Worth remembering that the regime didn’t blame previous lockdowns on resisters of “vaccination”. This time they will.
I only had to drive past a local school and observe the “Good times will come again” banners hung on the perimeter fence to realise that hate week will soon be upon us.
They didn’t blame anyone, just their spurious ‘case’ numbers.
They just wanted to see if we would abandon Christmas Day when instructed.
I think, what they are aiming to do, in incremental steps, is to ultimately ban christmas all together because their end game is to ban all organised religions and only have one world religion, prob worshiping the NWO or hailing the jabs or something equally daft
Might work with the pathetic remnants of the Official Christian religion but they will have a harder job with the Catholics (especially newly arrived E. Europeans), Pentecostals (by which I mean with all due respect Black born again revivalists who are flourishing) and even more so if and when they try to tackle Islam.
Smacks of Victim Blaming does it not?
No, you bastard, lockdown is your choice, not a necessity.
Downtick. Why is lockdown a necessity? Give me 77 good reasons.
Just been to my kids’ footy match. Not many parents there keen to keep doing what they’re told. National mission?! Should you choose to accept it…
“We know immunity begins to wane after six months”
Lying piece of bald shite doing PR for the drug cartel.
There is no immunity from the get-go.
There might be some residual protection, but the net position (including vaccine related problems) is neutral at best, and is likely to be negative.
I also don’t approve of his use of ‘know’. If he was being honest he’d say:
You know we said that we know that the vaccines are safe and provide long lasting protection, and you used that to make an ‘informed’ decision — well turns out that we were wrong and they’re not as safe as we said and the protection is rather short lived. But we want you to take another dose anyway, as we are now sure that this time it is right thing to do. We’ll update you if we work out that it isn’t the case or if we find out that actually they’re not offering a net benefit. Well, perhaps we won’t tell you, because we don’t like pitchforks very much.
Sebastian Rushworth piece suggests what “immunity”, or possibly perceived benefit might be more appropriate, wanes within 2 months. His conclusion, jabs are waste of time effort and money and that is before you start to calculate the harms from deaths and adverse events.
Javid, you do not need to lock us down again!
Sajid Hancock is a disgrace.
In the words of the great Neil Oliver, this is not about what they say it’s about.
The Government do not have the resources to enforce a proper lockdown this Christmas. The police will not be patrolling every single street in the UK on Christmas Day to enforce the Rule of 6. We all know this. The Government knows it too. But it won’t stop this kind of nauseating behavioural pyschology being pushed out across the mainstream media. The best thing we can do is ignore it and carry on with whatever Christmas plans we have.
They won’t have to. The people will submit and self-enforce.
A lot won’t. My Mum won’t be having any further jabs and will be joining us for Christmas regardless of the ‘rules’. Until recently she’s been following all the advice, but has now had enough. There are a growing percentage of the population who feel the same.
Yaaay for your Mum!
That’s what’s got Javid &co so worried and reduced to veiled threats.
He clearly doesn’t understand
‘The Prisoner’s Dilemma’.
They never had the manpower to do it last time either, just laid it on thick with the propaganda to make people believe there would be consequences if they disobeyed.
I have a sneaking suspicion this is why they haven’t foisted the “vax passports” on us yet, the threat of civil disobedience can’t be stopped with a handful of plod.
Remember the days of publicity during Lockdown 1 when a woman was arrested on a railway platform for ‘lurking’ as though she intended to travel for no essential reason?
Dropped quietly without charge.
Just like all the other cases where the victims had the common sense not to pay the freedom tax and instead go before a judge. To the best of my knowledge (especially in my neck of the woods) not one single conviction or ruling to pay. Certain police forces where told not to enforce any of the covid rules, only to advise, due to not having a charge code to detain prisoners under. The whole thing, just like the rest is a sham.
Nobody has even been before a judge. The CPS won’t touch any phoney corony lockdown cases.
you can speak for england in that regard – lucky you – but they have been foisted upon the populations of Scotland, Wales, and NI – what’s the betting that they will be considered to “work so well” in the celtic fringe that BJ will feel he has ‘no option’ but to bring them in to England as well.
One word Javid. ‘Irreversible’.
Ask your boss
I suspect the ‘booster’ programme has gone TU
All those drugs that have been bought and paid for and nobody wants them
Prof Pantsdown predicted 700 covid deaths in my community. Still waiting for our first
Oh well
See an earlier response Cyril, I’m due a reminder and instructions about an unwanted booster jab but have yet to receive them.
Complete TU of a programme as you say.
How is this working out for you?..
Gov.UK
Published
29 December 2015.
The government’s new coercive or controlling behaviour offence will mean victims who experience the type of behaviour that stops short of serious physical violence, but amounts to extreme psychological and emotional abuse, can bring their perpetrators to justice.
The offence will carry a maximum of 5 years’ imprisonment, a fine or both.
As the phrase first coined here at Lockdownsceptics last year by a lady reader
‘I am in an abusive relationship with my government”.
Christmas imprisonment it is then. Better get a yellow star armband whilst I’m at it, just in case we’re allowed out for 5 minutes.
And Javid was meant to be a big improvement on Hancock. And the PM is a closet lockdown sceptic and libertarian.
This is the big problem with accepting the vaccines have allowed us to exit from covid insanity – when it turns out they don’t actually work, you get further madness.
“And Javid was meant to be a big improvement on Hancock.”
I saw it for what it was. Were people really fooled?
Does Javid have any more medical expertise than Hancock?
Thought not.
He’s clearly a lot more intelligent than Hancock though – which may not be a good thing, in the circumstances.
Well, he’s a big improvement…from the government’s point of view!
Piece of shit go back to your corner shop your broken flip flops await you!
What’s the point of a booster if the first pair of shots do so little?
Too many seem to be surviving – at least to date!
Israel reported to be stocking up for jab #4 while ‘hoping’ that #3lasts longer than #1+2.
ie 6 months.
Pfizer is desperate to get rid of the national control group.
And the government are desperate to use up all those expensive useless jabs before their expiry date, they don’t want to poison anyone….. Oh wait
“If we all come together and play our part, we can get through this challenging winter, avoid a return to restrictions and enjoy Christmas”.
And if you don’t take the third jab, or have it booked, I will punish you. 10 days quarantine if you dare to leave the country and come back if you’re not jabbed 3 times!
When will Javid be offering the 5-11 year old kiddies £100 if they’ll take the jab. You can buy a lot of sweeties for £100!
nostalgia:
Does anyone when we was told on a few weeks to save the NHS?
Seems so long ago.
My pots and pans have never been the same since.
Three weeks to flatten the curve!
CDC Scientists admit they did manipulate study data to show the Covid-19 Vaccines are safe for Pregnant Women as researchers discover 91% of pregnancies resulted in miscarriage following Covid-19 Vaccination
Another bombshell inconvenient fact – over to DHSC/MHRA/JVCI – Lets hear from them that they either have fully evaluated both the original trial data from the US and are now going to withdraw it for these women ( sorry never ever going to resort to any other description ) or publish an unequivocal report explaining why not, with cited references.
Don’t forget to breathe.
My winter plan F:
Sajid Javid ex Goldman Sachs
Rishi Sunak ex Goldman Sachs
Richard Sharp ex Goldman Sachs
Mark Carney ex Goldman Sachs – ex Bank of England – Climate Zaar
The Vampire Squid Bank has its funnel in every orifice of power.. everywhere..
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/what-price-new-democracy-goldman-sachs-conquers-europe-6264091.html
And I bet if you really did some digging you’d find GS in a few more orifices too..
Those out there who still cling to the notion that they live in a democracy are naive in the extreme..
Post jab millions of adverse events are reported around the world, many of them life changing and life shortening along with at least tens of thousands of deaths reported.
I’m going to say these vaccines aren’t safe.
With the need to be injected three times in the space of 10 months for them to work I’m going to say they clearly aren’t effective.
As much as I love this website for keeping me sane throughout the shitshow, this sort of reporting is simply trying to whip up a drama where none exists. DS has become as guilty as the MSM in this regard. Nowhere does Javid say that there is going to be another lockdown. He mentions avoiding restrictions, but even that appears to be a vague and idle threat that feels rather weak.There won’t be another lockdown, that much is certain. There is neither the poltical will or enthusiasm for it because the government know they’ve lost the public appetite and obedience for one. Apart from anything else, they simply cannot afford it and they dare not mess with Xmas again. If you want a weather vane to this, then just look at the hospitality industry. They get the first indications of any forthcoming restrictions way before anything is made public and I know for a fact that they are continuing to return to normality.
I sometimes wonder whether people on here want another lockdown so that they can be proved right. They are just different sides of the same coin as the bedwetters.
I don’t think anyone here wants another lockdown to be proved right, though personally I feel that overreach by the govt is our only hope of waking up the sleeping masses
I want another lockdown, please bring it on
I want the bedwetters squeezed until the pips squeak
The bedwetters have ruined my life for the past 20 months; I want to drag them to the bottom of the deep end until ones of us dies (it won’t be me)
But it is the SkyNews article which quotes him as saying: “If we all come together and play our part, we can get through this challenging winter, avoid a return to restrictions and enjoy Christmas.” What does “avoid a return to restrictions” mean if it doesn’t mean “avoid a return to restrictions”?
It’s called the rubber band technique, put the population under stress, release, then stretch again, release, keep on going until the rubber band can no longer be stretched, or it snaps.
That’s just Garfy’s point. It’s vague and wishy-washy noise that doesn’t mean anything of note.
and the CLEAR implication of his words is that if restrictions do have to be reintroduced (to my mind he is semaphoring that willy now) then you won’t be able to enjoy christmas, again.
Edit – forgot the “d” – meant to write “wildly”
Because the first indication that the government intends to do something is when they say they don’t ‘want to’.
This gives the usual suspects the opportunity to clammer for that very thing.
This has been the pattern time and time again since before lockdown began including the introduction thereof.
Good post. Totally agree. If anything it is simply an attempt to push their horrible boosters because many more people are thinking for themselves this time and refusing them.
It’s a nudge – get boosted or we cancel christmas
Rumours that the BBC will support this drive by a new children’s show ‘Jabbanory’ are, I am told, unfounded.
Peppa Pig’s Granny Gets Her Third Jab So That Peppa Pig Won’t Kill Her. The new Christmas book from the Children’s Fascist Press. Pre-order on Amazon.
Hmm, not sure that I would buy that for my grandson. But some might!
And I don’t think that I will let him watch ‘Jab box Javid either!
Bringing home the bacon then.
Jabberjack? Jab with mother? All vaccines great and small? Jabs Army? are you being jabbed? Z jabs? The jabbing detective. Blue jabber.
Not sure about any of those, but the people pushing this certainly need to do Porridge.
Marvellous! You could probably add the ‘Jaberation Game’ and ‘Strictly come Jabbing’
Pfizer “vaccine”: kill 200 to ‘save’ one?Analysis of official data shows the risks attached to Covid “vaccine” far outweighs any theoretical reward.
https://off-guardian.org/2021/11/06/pfizer-vax-kill-200-to-save-one/
Threatening people again are you Javid… Take the state prescribed drug or we will lock you up. You and your ilk really are anti-human pond life.
wonder how many ministers/MP/s members of royal family will be getting boosters and be photographed doing so????
John Selwyn Gummer will be first in the queue for the “train”…
Remember the “one way roadmap” to freedom to “freedom”?
And freedom day in July…? What a crock.
Now see why the roadmap had no objective criteria for all virus related restrictions?
Because they never, ever had any intention of relinquishing the power and letting us live our lives.
Do you mean ‘What a crook’ ?
They never intended to, drunk on power by the time we flattened the Sombrero for them.
Introducing new restrictions in exchange for changing lockdown 1 into lockdown lite early last summer.
The hospitality industry may be gearing up for a bumper festive season but they will probably get just Xmas day lunch as they did last year.
They didn’t get even that in Gulag Wales. All stopped at a moment’s. notice. Thousands and thousands of pounds’ worth of food thrown away by restaurants and pubs. No compensation. Dungford was in ecstasies.
(Oh, and for weeks before that, pubs had been forbidden to serve alcoholic drinks.)
Even worse the week before lockdown 1. Millions of people already sent home from work told by bozo to avoid pubs and restaurants yet those places were not instructed to close and so could not claim insurance or compensation.
Come along children, take your medicine or I’ll ground you
It’s a shame we no longer have Jimmy Savile who would have been a perfect figurehead for this campaign. Children listened to him and he was comfortable and well-known in hospitals.
No doubt he would have been offering his services
Offering a pick?
Yes I’m sure he could have provided his special vaccine…
The BBC could have done a telethon.
“Now then, now then, let Uncle Jimmy jab you with this, ohh how about that then?”
Dirty bastard.
I allowed myself a little giggle this morning when I saw that the papers today are talking about restricting the rights of those who don’t take their third jab. They’re now but one rung above us on the social credit ladder. Proud, as ever, to be right at the bottom.
indeed – as unvaccinated as the ‘purebloods’ are even though they have submitted on 2 prior occasions. Must be feeling a bit hard done by – espec if they only got jabbed to go on holiday.
I wonder if Javid was misquoted. Perhaps he didn’t say “We know immunity begins to wane after six months” but rather “We know my humanity begins to wane after six months”. It’s an easy enough error for a reporter to make!
They’re now caught between a rock and a hard place. Lockdown everyone and lose the popular support of New Normals. Lockdown untermensche only, can’t blame continued epidemic on them any more. What’s a tinpot tyrant to do?
Very important talk on the expansion of media censorship which didn’t just begin in March 2020. However, things are now so bad that most press titles are just propaganda and as for the main ‘social media’ …
https://www.peakprosperity.com/the-end-of-media/
Chris Martenson has been 3-12 months ahead of most people since January 2020 on COVID information. Ben Swann, the ex-TV journalist he interviews, is setting up a new free speech platform, i.e. one where the first amendment applies.
“play our part” – this is nothing more an theatre, lies, and manipulation. Bit like “ACT like you’ve got it”. P*ss off Savage Jabbit! Since WHEN, in the history of medicine, did the elderly and vulnerable have to take a state-injectable to protect OTHERS?!!!! If immunity is still f*cked after two jabs, what is the point of a third, a fouth, a fifth, a sixth….oh, let me guess! Go to Hell, and take your poison with you!
yes but if about 12 of them dont well be in lockdown knowing modern society’s fondness for ove compensating minorities,lets face it they acquired this super new weapon and they re not going to give it back are they
Is he human? Because the top of his head doesn’t look like it belongs to the bottom half?
Just saying… you all thought it.
NO! This is not USK (united soviet kingdom) you don’t have the right to take away my inalienable rights & freedom, period. Fuck off!
Return to the stone from under which you came, and evolve some hair.
My last Christmas was spent with my extended family, this Christmas will be the same regardless of what this,or any other Tory tw@t commands.
My parents, both in their late seventies decided not to have the magic sauce injected into them and shockingly they are both still alive!!
A miracle I tell you a miracle.
Can we have a pilgrimage to your house? Good for you!
What happens when doctors just follow orders?
https://drtrozzi.org/2021/11/07/what-happens-when-doctors-just-follow-orders/
The “1 in 3 people are infected without knowing it” advert was on the radios again today, I’m sure it hasn’t been on for several months.
Man this highly infectious disease with a 00.03% death rate sure is taking a very long time to infect the population, it’s like flattening the curve has simply prolonged our agony.
Still, at least we gave the vulnerable and clinically nearly dead another 6 months suffering without the company of loved one’s, a miserable life in solitary confinement.
I’d forgotten about the solitary confinement for the last 6 months of oldie covids lives thanks to Hancock.
Must be getting desperate; they know public opinion is changing. Less than 20% masks in my local supermarket yesterday and no cleaning station for the trolleys or hands. I didn’t see anyone complain.
We knew that since Diamond Princess, oops no, there it was 50%.
Correct, but subtly different language used , if only the same shite message
To be blunt, Savage Jabbit can shove his urging and recommendations up his arse. Vile creature.
Hot off the press from the Daily Fail:
‘Elderly and vulnerable people who are double jabbed have started dying of Covid due to waning immunity, health chief warns as NHS says it is already at peak winter levels for bed occupancy’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10174647/Elderly-double-jabbed-started-dying-Covid-waning-immunity.html
Best rated readers comment (at time of posting)
‘Perhaps the jab is a contributing factor to the increased mortality rate.’
1790 upticks 219 downticks
Just read the top twenty comments, brilliant. Some very well informed statements on there, with absolutely no intelligent retort from the Covidians.
Yes I thought so too. DM readers at least seem not to taking stuff from the Government about Covid any more without questioning.
It does seem to be a good indicator of the general mood of the population, six months ago the wind was blowing in the other direction though, all pro mask, pro jab, pro bullshit.
I think that people just want to move on; they are probably more worried now (understandably so) about the economy, inflation and the imminent drop in their standard of living because of rising taxes etc.
We will know that the government has lost all support when the Guardian commenters finally turn – if that ever happens!
Nah.. if they sense that happening comments will disappear pretty damn sharpish..
They already have, todays lead clip on Guardian YouTube was about ‘millions protest climate change worldwide’
Overwhelmingly disliked and all first 30 comments hostile.
Could be infiltraters though.
Dm readers have been that way since some weeks into lockdown 1.
Some people look down on DM readers but they are the salt of the earth and know what’s what.
Shame it’s such a dreadful newspaper.
April 2022:
“We know the current lockdown, which regretably we had no choice but to impose just before Christmas despite falling case numbers has been tough, but, alas, we need you to have your fifth booster jab in order to save the summer and you will need to have had the current EU mandatory 8 jabs to go there for a holiday”
Not. Going. To. Happen
Unfortunately I can imagine that plenty of people who don’t have the wit to do their own research will just shrug, roll up their sleeve and say to themselves “as long as I can get to Marbella I don’t care”
just keep on shoveing it in. So latest tale of horror, Care worker who did not want to lose her job healthy aged 52, First injection next day rushed to hospital. 3 blood clots, they managed to remove 2 the third in her leg, could not sort ladies leg has to come off below the knee. You won’t read about that in the MSM, and it will have zero effect along with all the other injuries and deaths in persuading this Government, the medical establishment or the Pharma to call a halt to this madness,
Does anyone else feel that they’ve lost some momentum? Feels like it’ll be hard to maintain the ‘pandemic of the unvaccinated’ line that has been pushed in the States. And this is surely required to bring about the segregation we’ve seen in Australia, NZ and parts of Europe. They haven’t done a very good job of turning us against each other here in the UK, have they?
They tell so many lies and make so many false promises that eventually people get fed up of it
They even lie when there is no need, it’s as if they just can’t help themselves
They lie because it has always worked for them. Lying got them where they are
I suspect they would suffer an acute adverse reaction if they told the truth
I can’t help feeling that the virus just hasn’t done what the authors of the plandemic wanted it to. This is a virus that is suppressed to be such a threat that we need to change our entire way of life. Even Normies can surely see by now that this is just absurd…
Yes, I think that the ‘Jabbernaut’ has hit the speed bumps and those bumps are changes in public opinion and an awakening of concerns about the ‘jabs’. But I do think that the threat of new restrictions is real – bastards!
Certainly feel it amongst my own. They had the jab for whatever reason (fear of virus, keep job, go on holiday) but not one of them believe in vaccine passports and would man the barricades with us if it came to it.
That’s great to hear. Similar story in my circle, my mother-in-law who was formerly staunch covidian and fell out with me about it in early 2020 recently performed an about turn, telling my wife and I that she thought we’d made the right decision and she hoped the injections she’d had wouldn’t do her any harm. No chance of a booster. Remarkable. It was the speech given by Dr Peter Doshi last week that pushed her over the edge. That was a game changer.
I have set up a Limited Company and registered it at Companies house
All family members are either Directors or Shareholders
The AGM is at the company office at 11am on 25th December
The Company Secretary will arrange refreshments as there is a huge agenda to get through
Could be a long day
Well they did say work from home
And if they cancel Christmas, you could of course just as well work on Christmas Day…just saying…
EGM on the 26th
Did anyone actually obey the rules last Christmas and New Year? Everything seemed to be pretty much as normal from what I could see while delivering.
I believe only people who read the Guardian’s Christmas was ruined. Ha!
Dr. David Martin – The COVID Treasonous Acts
One more for the conspiracy theorists. Get your news before it happens.
Love that guy and 100% believe him. Downloaded the Fauci dossier months ago; and have thought of the injections as bioweapons ever since. Will watch the heck out of this video thanks.
I hear that publicans are being advised not to over-order beer supplies for the Christmas period, with a quiet word having been had with the brewers not to over-brew …
It will make no difference how many people get jabbed or re-jabbed. I remain convinced that lockdown will be announced by the middle of this month.
Popping my head in the sand – please let that not be so (I just can’t face anymore). Why can’t they just ftfo and leave us alone?
Tbh here in the NW they could try another LD but they’ll fail because even the ‘go along to get along’ that I know won’t comply this time, they’re sick of it.
Surely if there’s going to be any locking down, it’ll just be us lot, given that the puppet leaders are all using the same playbook? And yet I can’t quite imagine this working in our country…?
How can they work it? The legal position is that police have no access to your medical records without your consent.
Been there done that. Gave my consent because it was to my advantage, excused me from Court when they wanted me to be a hostile witness against a friend ( rightly aquited).
Tinnies it is then.
And the second word is ……. Off! I have complete faith in my immune system!
Took the words out of my mouth. The word that also comes to mind is ‘sinister’. Due to government fear mongering people are jabbing up due to fear of the (over hyped) virus, fear of ‘the rules/law’, fear of losing their job or simply to go on holiday. Sinister.
By contrast many are not jabbing up despite the risk to liberty.
This is so very tiresome. Recyclable headlines, inducing weariness…..
But not bringing about a surrender! On the contrary, I sense an awakening and a gathering opposition. Amongst those who’ve been opposed all along, I sense a growing resolve.
An evil man.
Hospitals in USA and in first world countries are refusing life-saving Ivermectin treatment even with court orders. Big Pharma doing everything they can to jab us no matter what, while alternative COVID cures EXIST! There happens to be heavy censorship who are looking for these treatments. The Research Is Clear: Ivermectin Is a Safe, Effective Treatment for COVID. Get your Ivermectin today while you still can! https://health.p0l.org/
Not shipping to OZ ? Just before this started, the shelves, in Oz, were cleared of Ivermectin which was everywhere, like it was planned
I keep receiving red notices stating “You’ve already voted for this.”
Of course I haven’t. Software glitches?
So hang on, the young get blackmailed on the basis that they must take the vaccine to protect others, whereas the old and vulnerable get told that if they don’t get the vaccine they will be evil bed blockers who will crash the NHS?
But if the last part was true (which it isn’t) then the vaccine works, in which case why do they young need to take it to protect others?
Please stop trying to make sense of it, slave, just do as you’re told. Get jabbed repeatedly to protect others from protecting each other’s grannies from protecting themselves. It’s simple.
And the jury all wrote on their slates, ‘She doesn’t think there is an atom of meaning in it.’
Fuck off, Jabbit.
Coronavirus was dead to begin with, of which there was no doubt.
It was Christmas Eve and Javid finished his work ignoring everyone who wished him a merry Christmas with a quick “bah humbug”, after giving his assistant, Joe Public, Christmas Day off and then changing his mind at the last minute. When he finally reached home as he reached into his pocket for the key, the door handle took the form of a coronavirus. This frightened Javid so much that he was tossing and turning, unable to sleep, then he heard the sound of wailing and the ghost of Coronavirus appeared. The apparition warned Javid that he would be visited by three ghosts, the ghost of vaccinations past, the ghost of vaccinations present and the most important ghost of vaccinations yet to come.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/peter-doshi-restev-levi-covid-vaccines-trial-data/
“We are NOT in a pandemic of the unvaccinated!”
Peter Doshi, BMJ
Peter McCullough on Alex Jones.
Myocarditis cases in the US 10 thousand. Long discussion on cardiac injury and the spike persists in the body post vax for up to 15 months. Post vax myocarditis very dangerous, post natural infection any harm is minimal
https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=6185b407e19ed5372ded8319
That sounds like a threat to me. “Take your shot… or else!”
That greasy little, pixie eared goblin is threatening me with a Christmas lock up if I don’t take the booster shot? I haven’t taken any shots of the elixir of immortality – is he going to jail me?
The main take from this should be, bullying, threats (yet again), coersion and abuse.
Anyone else doing that in their job would be sacked.
Why are these people still in a job.
Retirement usually means being stuck at home because of age, health or financial reasons, so a winter lock down is really for younger people who don’t have the insecurities of older age
Retirement is more about having made your nest, during your lifetime and having the time left (waiting to die) to enjoy it.
That is my take on getting old – but then I don’t live in England (left 51 years ago – never to return) anymore and the exchange rate here, is far less strong than the US$ or the Pound Sterling, so I can’t say how things are for the retired in your country – a long time,not my country.
Bugger, it was overcrowded when I left 51 years ago, so I can’t imagine how overcrowded it is there now, for all but a few who can afford a large estate to keep the rest of you out.
Richard
Re: Because they focus the immune system on fighting off the threat, thereby leaving other flanks exposed. I had shingles after both of mine. I don’t intend to have another.
The falling efficacy of the vaccines does not asymptotically approach zero (which would mean that vaccines merely lose effectiveness over time). It goes straight through zero and then goes dangerously negative (which means the vaccines become toxic to the immune system). Then it becomes increasingly negative in a linear manner week on week. If this continues then the vaccines will completely destroy the part of your immune system which deals with Covid by the end of January.
This may well result in more cases of Shingles, HPV, Herpes, Epstein Barr, Endometriosis and other viral infections – https://www.nbc12.com/2021/10/15/reports-shingles-outbreaks-not-directly-linked-covid-19-vaccine/
So if you take a booster shot, these figures show that you are giving yourself an even faster progressive form of AIDS (after an initial few months of effectiveness)
Does any of the above make any sort of sense to you?
Perhaps Mr Javid you could illuminate us proletarians the scientific basis on which you base you claims. Sorry Sir. while you were immersed in Politics and banking some of us spent a lifetime treating patients and publishing scientific articles and consider that not only are you misguided and wrong but appears to be devoid of the single most vital contribution to your statements -Evidence!
I emailed Sajid Javid with a list of questions which gave him the opportunity to validate his claims about the need for the jab. He failed to respond. I asked my MP to secure a response from Javid. My MP failed to reply. By default therefore they are unable to justify and substantiate the Government narrative, thus proving its all part of the Big Lie.
More like, ” Javid urges the elderly and vulnerable to take the booster to reduce the surplus population” ahead of Christmas, so the “haves” can have a nicer time. Bah, humbug!
Oh dear, are too many surviving the first two attempts of death-by-needle? Obviously a booster is needed to fiinish the job.
Is he threatening people? Most people are declining because the experimental biologicals, simply don’t work. People are becoming aware that repeatedly injecting spike protein into your body is a very bad thing. Researcher after researcher and brave doctors are finally speaking out against these experimental biologicals. They are the ones seeing the dreadful adverse events and deaths. Mr Javid do your homework. Please do not spread misinformation. In this situation it could cause the death of someone.
So, get your THIRD jab. If you don’t drop dead immediately, then your odds of a serious adverse reaction in the next few days go up dramatically. Let’s say you do survive the jab. For the first 10 days or so, you’d better hide behind the sofa as your immune system will be knocked out and if you get Covid-19, you’re in trouble. Then your immune systems recovers from the jab and for the next 211 days (or thereabouts) you’ll be “protected” against the virus. But if you DO get Covid-19, and you survive it, then you’re truly screwed as the hospitals will have nowhere to discharge the elderly to, having fired another 60 000 care workers who refuse to get the jab that doesn’t stop them from getting infected and from spreading the virus anyhow.
Assuming that you survive your encounter with Covid-19 and your encounter with the NHS, you’re now just waiting for the 3rd jab to lose effectiveness so that you can start the whole process over again with your FOURTH jab.
Rinse. Repeat. Forever.
Stretch, these idiots sound like a broken record repeating the same nonsense time after time.
Once 99% of over 50’s, 95% of under 50’s are jabbed yet again then we might allow Christmas – just f off you ignorant bunch.
Stretch = strewth!
I don’t remember when a booster was trialled. Can anyone show me the results of the trial? My memory isn’t what it used to be.
I emailed Sajid Javid and raised questions about the Government narrative, extending the opportunity to justify and substantiate their various claims. No surprise. no reply I asked my MP if he would raise my questions with Sajid Javid. No surprise, no reply. By default the Government therefore is unable and unwilling to tell the truth and thus the narrative is confirmed as part of the Big Lie.
Dr Peter McCullough has advised in a warning, NO ONE should take a booster because of the spike proteins in the vaxx. But Sajid Javid, a politician thinks the elderly and vulnerable should take a booster. I am sure Javid, a politician by trade, knows what he is talking about, but wondering what random controlled studies he is referring to when he makes these kind of broad statements.
What the hell’s it got to do with him? Reprehensible little toad.
It’s about time we had a ”Health Secretary” with some kind of qualification or experience in medicine or science. At least then we’d know he was talking through his own hat, rather than someone else’s.