German democracy, which has existed undeterred since 1949 but is somehow always shaken to its foundations whenever anybody sings the wrong song or holds a televised debate with the wrong person, is once again on life support.
Christian Lindner, head of the market-liberal Free Democrats, did much to trigger the present catastrophe on December 1st, when he said that the Free Republic should “dare more Milei and more Musk”. Because there is little distinction between praising Milei and Musk and demanding the return of National Socialism, there ensued a brief period of establishment hyperventilation.
Less than a week later, CDU chief and probable future German Chancellor Friedrich Merz did his part to denounce Lindner’s political wrongthink in a statement to Deutschlandfunk:
So neither the Argentinian President nor, how shall I put it, the American entrepreneur Elon Musk – let’s put it plainly – are role models for German politics in my view. I don’t see where we can find similarities in German politics. What Christian Lindner meant will probably remain his secret.
The next day, Merz repeated the same denunciations, only more harshly, explaining to one of our extremely adult and far-sighted pantsuit talkshow hosts that “To be honest, I was completely appalled that Christian Lindner made that comparison.” Milei, Merz said, is “really trampling on the people there”.
Yesterday, all of this came to the notice of the (honestly rather tiresome) influencer Naomi Seibt, who posted a video statement to X rehearsing all of this old news to her largely American audience.
— Naomi Seibt (@SeibtNaomi) December 19, 2024
CHANCELLOR FRONTRUNNER SLAMS MUSK & MILEI
The presumptive next chancellor Friedrich Merz (CDU) is horrified by the idea that Germany should follow Elon Musk’s and Javier Milei’s example.
He staunchly rejects a pro-freedom approach and refuses any discussion with the AfD. pic.twitter.com/ZAOxWxzNdn
Elon Musk then brought down the hammer on the German democratic order, retweeting Seibt’s video and remarking that “Only the AfD can save Germany”.
Today a lot of very important and influential people got out of bed and took to their keyboards to denounce Musk’s election interference. His statement might be illegal, at any rate it is very likely fascist and certainly it is beyond the pale for an American to voice an opinion about German politics. Germans absolutely never, ever, utter the slightest word about American politics and certainly would never advance negative opinions about the American President in the middle of an election campaign. Our Foreign Office would never try to fact-check an American presidential debate! Our journalists would never depict President Donald Trump dressed as a Ku Klux Klan member or offering the Hitler salute or decapitating the Statue of Liberty! That’s just not done!
Like a great stream of green diarrhoea, the outrage is pouring fourth. Matthias Gebauer, who writes for Der Spiegel, observes that “Elon Musk… is openly promoting the AfD” and concludes that “Putin is not the only one who loves this party”. Erik Marquardt, head of the Green faction in the European Parliament, says that “The EU Commission and EU member states should no longer stand by and watch as billionaires misuse media and algorithms to influence elections and strengthen and normalise Right-wing extremists”. This “is an attack on democracy”, and “has nothing to do with freedom of expression”. Dennis Radtke, CDU representative in the European Parliament, concludes that “Musk… is declaring war on democracy” and that “the man is a menace”. We are also under siege via “interference from Putin”; “the erosion of our democracy is being fuelled from both within and without”. Julian Röpcke, who writes for BILD, believes that “This is interference in the German election campaign by a tech billionaire who uses algorithms to decide what gets heard”. If Germany does not “respond with penalties, there will be no help for our eroding democracy”.
Jonas Koch, at Die Zeit, complains that “the richest man in the world is now campaigning for Right-wing populists in Germany”.
Tech billionaire Elon Musk has spoken out in favour of the Alternative for Germany party in the German Parliamentary election campaign. “Only the AfD can save Germany,” he wrote on his online service X.
You can almost see Mr. Koch before you, clasping his pearls. He notes that the Government is doing its best to weather this unprecedented assault on the German republic. He quotes longsuffering Government spokesperson Christian Hoffmann saying that “It’s not the first time that Elon Musk has commented on German politics”. Olaf Scholz, he notes, “has been concerned about… X since Musk assumed control of it”, but he has inexplicably not yet decided to delete Government X accounts.
Nor is this Musk’s only sin against all that is right, free and good:
Musk is not only increasingly involved in politics in the U.S., where he is advising U.S. President-elect Donald Trump and is to head a commission to reduce Government spending. He is also exerting influence in the U.K. He recently announced a donation of up to $100 million to the Right-wing populists around Brexit pioneer Nigel Farage.
As early as the summer, Musk had praised the AfD after the European elections. The party was labelled as Right-wing extremist, “but the political positions of the AfD that I have read about do not sound extremist”, he wrote on X.
Der Spiegel agrees that this is “Not the first time that this super-rich man has interfered in German politics”. Musk “repeatedly takes potshots at Germany”, he has “insulted” such national saints as “the former Chancellor Angela Merkel”, he has “criticised Chancellor Olaf Scholz”, and most ominously of all he has “even responded to tweets from the far-Right Thuringian AfD leader Björn Höcke”.
He responded to Höcke! Imagine that! It is just the height of political depravity, all that responding.
Now the billionaire and confidant of U.S. President-elect Donald Trump has tweeted again…
Tweeted again! The absolute madman! Will he never stop?
…and made a barely concealed election recommendation for the AfD. “Only the AfD can save Germany,” Musk claimed in a tweet. …
Under Trump, Musk is set to become co-head of the newly created Department of Government Efficiency. The goal of the institution: to reduce bureaucracy, eliminate regulations and cut spending. This could result in Musk weakening or even abolishing those rules that personally limit him.
That’s right, Musk wants to make American Government more efficient so that he can suspend elections and establish himself as American dictator. It takes truly perceptive journalists, like whoever wrote this unsigned Spiegel screed, to see through his clever lies.
Musk constantly uses X for political influence. He not only interferes in German politics from there, but also tries to exert pressure on U.S. Congressmen. … Since Wednesday, he has fired off various tweets to fuel the U.S. budget dispute. He also recently received representatives of the British far-Right [sic] party Reform U.K. at Trump’s private residence Mar-a-Lago in Florida.
He is like a little antidemocratic Hitler, is Elon Musk, just tweeting whatever he wants, receiving guests, influencing… things.
But the gold medal for most outrageous reaction must go to Florian Harms, Editor-in-Chief of t-online. Harms writes for a slightly downmarket publication and so he has to enact more indignation than everybody else.
“This sentence is an outrage,” Harms declares.
There’s always a lot going on on the big-shot platform X. Since Ober-Big-Shot Elon Musk bought the social media company and reprogrammed its algorithms to inject poison, most posts there have devolved into unfounded claims, wild insults or outrageous nonsense. You can safely ignore it.
Unfortunately, what the “Grökraz” himself posts on X cannot be ignored. This Friday, our “greatest Croesus of all time” felt compelled to intervene in the German federal election campaign with a one-liner: “Only the AfD can save Germany.” … That’s his prerogative; after all, anyone can now post nonsense on his platform.
Harms is clearly highly opposed to platforms where anyone can just post anything. People should only be allowed to post things of which Harms approves. Particularly someone like Musk should not be allowed to just post whatever he wants, because Musk is “a global entrepreneur” and therefore “bears special responsibility”:
His words carry weight because they influence international politics, stock markets and social moods. More than 208 million people follow Musk on X; he has configured the digital machines so that his posts are displayed more often than others. This gives his radical views a disproportionate amount of attention, which is how he makes politics – without democratic legitimisation.
Vast swathes of the German corporate sector denounce the AfD all the time without the slightest “democratic legitimisation”, and as far as I know Harms has never complained about that even once. If Musk were attacking AfD, of course, Harms would be totally thrilled with it.
The so-called Alternative for Germany is a crazy party… [A] growing number of its officials are Right-wing radicals and enemies of democracy. This is well known and can be read in in the various reports by the Office for the Protection of the Constitution.
German political discourse is so insane, I always feel slightly ashamed translating this stuff for you. It feels like dishing out embarrassing family secrets.
Only someone who is either clueless or maliciously intent on spreading misinformation would think that this party alone could contribute something constructive for the good of Germany.
Unfortunately, based on everything we’ve heard from Elon Musk in recent months, we have to assume the latter. This man wants to undermine constitutional and democratic institutions, abolish the welfare state and create a Darwinian world in which the law of the jungle applies. It’s bad enough that he is now gaining so much influence in the USA. This must not happen in Germany. …
Democratic politicians should… refute Musk’s claim. And… they should take a particularly critical look at future investments by Musk’s companies in this country. Consumers also bear a responsibility: Anyone who is still considering buying a Tesla must accept the accusation of supporting a destroyer of democracy. [emphasis mine]
This is all so boundlessly ridiculous, it’s like the entire country is suffering from borderline personality disorder.
If any of these people sincerely believe that Musk’s tweet will have any influence on the German elections in February, they are clinically insane. The only thing here that might influence something is the unceasing hysteria of German establishment discourse, which seems intent on alienating powerful figures at the centre of empire, all for the indecent and passing thrill of a cheap moral orgasm. Any political order that is truly threatened by a six-word remark from anybody – even should it come from the wealthiest, most antidemocratic, fascistic and powerful man in the world – is not a political order worth having.
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Love him or hate him, he’s a great troll to these evil bastards in charge.
I’m fond of him, largely due to his investment in space tech!
It appears that all western nations have gone rogue. Our establishment politicians now no longer serve their people they serve the interests of unelected bodies be they global NGOs/ foundations, charitable industrial complex, politicised investment bank giants or globalist transnational corporations. And it is with the connivances of the deep state public sector servants that they wage their agenda against us treating us with contempt – they are the enemy within. If the AfD go from strength to strength and the freedom loving people of Europe follow their lead by voting for new challenger parties then we have a chance to save democracy, our European culture and our freedoms.
At least Elon has never driven a car into a crowded Christmas market.
Yes they should concern themselves with that. Is this the Germany that if there is a sex attacker they won’t display his photo if he’s from the ‘diversity’ crowd. To hell with any unsuspecting woman who the mug shot may provide a crucial warning.
This is Essen Christmas market in Germany. I’ve been to this market. They’re certainly not looking as appealing as they used to;
”A horde of uncultured, uncouth barbarians crashes a Christmas market in Germany.
And they wonder why the world hates them.
The longer you let them live in your countries, the greater the wrath of your people will become.”
https://x.com/TheHarrisSultan/status/1870426041606373833
Tommy Robinson called it before he was sent down, but we all know the score by now anyway. ”More Islam less freedom”. I don’t think those ‘diversity barriers’ are in place because mowing people down in a vehicle is the typical M.O of your average Jewish or Christian psychopath, not that we seem to hear about psychopaths that adhere to those religions committing mass murder, for some strange reason;
https://x.com/tyleraloevera/status/1870331534688825654
I really don’t understand the reports coming out, I suppose from German security services, that the man is a Saudi who hates Islam, supports the AfD, likes Musk and Tommy Robinson. It doesn’t add up to what he then did, unless there is a deep state conspiracy and all of the social media was mocked up over night or he is actually a Manchurian Candidate planted 20 years ago awaiting instructions and opportunity. Both suggestions make me seem slightly deranged.
I’m going with what this lady explains. It seems the most likely. I don’t know if you have an account to read the thread but this short video covers it. Saudi warned Germany about him, apparently, and Germany saw him as a mere harmless ex-Muslim refugee and didn’t heed the warning. Posts from other ex-Muslims being threatened by him also;
”Despite claims made by the German press, Taleb Al Abdulmohsen is not an ex-Muslim atheist, nor is he a fan of the AfD or Elon Musk. While he may have spread this misinformation himself, it aligns with the practice of Taqqiye, an Islamic doctrine that permits lying and deception to advance Islamic objectives.
In reality, he is a radical Shia Muslim, as evidenced by his name and numerous tweets and chat leaks circulating on Arabic-speaking platforms like X. Disturbingly, his plans to carry out mass killings of Germans were brought to the attention of German authorities by a Saudi woman. Tragically, the police ignored her warnings.
The links are added in the thread.”
https://x.com/MaralSalmassi/status/1870413236996092217
You can see that the Saudi woman was trying to warn the German authorities of this very attack back in September last year here;
”Saudi girl living in Saudi Arabia reported to the German police in September 2023 about the danger of a man called Talib Abd AlMohsen, who was planning to run people over with his car.
The German police ignored the report and acted in a stupid bureaucratic manner.
A month earlier the first report ,Talib tweeted threatening to kill 20 Germans & the same girl sent a report to the police that was also ignored.
Today Talib carried out his threat and killed many innocent people in #Magdeburg while The leftist media insists on hiding these facts.”
https://x.com/Moraqeb2020/status/1870287560993583464
Thanks Mogs, explains a lot
I’m equally perplexed. If he hated Islam so much, why didn’t he wait for Ramadan to mow down the queues of the faithful at the local mosque?
Five confirmed dead now with over 200 injured. I find Interior Minister ‘Nazi’ Faeser’s comment incredible that the suspect’s ”Islamophobia was clear to see”. So he was so Islamophobic that he totally avoided Muslims altogether and deliberately targeted a traditional Christmas market, where there were most likely zero Muslims in attendance. I mean, what sort of mental gymnastic does one have to do to make that make sense?! So you can see how this is going, can’t you? ”Right wing extremist”, just like the dreadful CNN have been reporting. The narrative is being created as we speak. Anyway, this relevant detail caught my eye, which supports my previous post about a woman in Saudi warning Germany about this psycho, and this bit is proof we’re looking at yet another failure of the authorities whose job it is to keep evil dirtbags such as this out of the country whilst ensuring the safety and security of the citizens;
”A Saudi source told Reuters that Saudi Arabia had warned German authorities about the attacker after he posted extremist views on his personal X account that threatened peace and security.
These warnings were given multiple times since he left Saudi Arabia in 2006, the source said, without going into further detail.
A risk assessment conducted last year by German state and federal criminal investigators came to the conclusion that the man posed “no specific danger”, the Welt newspaper reported, citing security sources.
Germany’s domestic and foreign intelligence agencies both declined to comment on the ongoing investigation.”
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/death-toll-german-christmas-market-car-ramming-rises-four-bild-reports-2024-12-21/
Nancy Faeser is absolutely demented.
I am also sure (just for clarity), that you were not calling her a “Nazi”, but applied that term as a nickname owing to her tendency to accuse everyone she doesn’t like as being adherent to, or aligned with “Far-Right” ideologies.
Well wouldn’t your typical Islamophobic nutjob target one of the countless ‘pro-Palestine’ demos if they wanted to go full psycho? Then there’s the Muslim men that come out on the regular in Germany screaming for a caliphate, chanting their hateful, anti-West war songs. He could easily have done max damage ploughing a car into them. But the pro-Palestiners would have been the obvious target because they’re a regular fixture now, which is exactly we we know it’s all bollocks. All a cover story. He was wanted for rape, amongst other things ( reported by GBN ) in Saudi, but Germany refused to extradite him because his cover story was that he’s an atheist in fear of being killed by the regime for apostasy.
He’s also supposedly helping Saudi women get to safety in Europe but he’s accused by many ex-Muslims online of harassing and stalking them. I think saying he’s an ex-Muslim atheist was a scam from the get-go so he’d increase his chances of not being extradited and gaining asylum, eventually citizenship. Once again, a European country prioritises the alleged human rights of foreigners above those of their own citizens.
“The man who was arrested for the most recent terrorist attack on a Christmas market- this time in Magdeburg, Germany- is allegedly Saudi national Taleb Al Abdulmohsen. I’ve known him for years (online only) and he never seemed stable to me. He obsessively went after an ExMuslim Saudi woman. He wanted my help in ‘exposing’ her and turned aggressive when I wouldn’t comply. Friends have shared with me that he was targeting other Saudi female activists as well. I still can’t believe this is real. I knew he was unhinged, and I wanted to keep my distance, but I never suspected he’d turn violent.”
https://x.com/YasMohammedxx/status/1870445459384549490
“He acted ex-Muslim on the outside, while in DMs he threatened ex-Muslims, especially Saudi women who had fled. He also repeatedly attacked me because I wanted nothing more to do with him after 2018 and finally blocked him in May of this year. on X”
https://x.com/AliCologne/status/1870460306851590365
It’s that, but also because Nancy sounds similar to Nazi.
Brilliantly written. Tongue firmly in cheek!
One basic socialist strategy from time immemorial is to try to undercut the moral standing of its critics.
So if you’re not in favour of whatever socialist programme they want to shove down your throat, you are heartless and cruel. And they will make that argument by whatever means necessary including calling you a Nazi if they think it can stick.
Those who oppose collectivist socialism have to do a better job of defending the moral basis for individualism, for self reliance.
The problem that conservatism has got itself into is that it has stopped believing in its own moral virtue and has been persuaded by the collectivist moral arguments.
That is how the Conservative Party of Britain has basically turned into socialism lite. And bot that lite anymore.
This just illustrates how vapid these people really are. They’ve been elected administrators of a subjugated Germany by all its historical enemies¹, they know that, everyone else knows that, and all their ‘jobs’ require them to do is – minus cashing very generous pay cheques – publically recount the right platitudes.
¹ A nice quote I came across yesterday:
I’ve recently read out an article of the French Senator Humbert during the committe session. The closing statement was “This slave race which dreamt of world domination² must be enslaved again!” That’s how the peace our enemies have in store for us looks like.
[Karl Helfferich, Der Weltkrieg, vol III p 151]
And so it was done.
² By peaceful economic competition.
“. He quotes longsuffering Government spokesperson Christian Hoffmann”
The only long suffering people are the German people, but they need to take some responsibility and vote for a change of direction. Unless they enjoy being shafted by a broomstick.
The Establishments of the Western World have congealed into a softish left consensus, for almost all parties, with very little difference between them. Of course they will try and control Free Speech. Of course they will demonize non establishment parties. Of course they will decry the general electorate for being populists. They have no other choices for if their softish left ways actually worked there would be little need for competition.
Germany is a danger to Europe again. They are institutionally socialist (communist even), they are still infected with a national socialist virus (it had never entirely gone away), and they are wrecking Europe by having allowed, and continue to allow in, immigrant Muhammadan lunatics.
And people totally misunderstand, and are deliberately led to misunderstand, that Hitler and the nazis were not right wingers, they were socialists. The left is where Hitler came from. The left is where he got his ideas from. Socialism is dangerous and anti democratic (as indicated by the evidence of how German socialists and green communists are reacting). Socialists are prison camp makers, free speech crushers and dictators (as indicated by their extreme behaviour towards Musk’s activities).
Read about Hitler Socialism. And learn that he was never ‘right wing’ Germany is heading back to national Socialism. The socialist state that is Germany’s poltical and civil servant class are already infested with communism (leftover feom the east Germans who went into politics in the post communist Germany) and they can accept no alternative for Germany (!l) Germany should have been broken up into four or five small states after the war. They are Europe’s destoyers again
“On January 23, 1939, Walter Hallstein, Dean of the Faculty of Law and Economics at the University of Rockstock, in Germany gave a propaganda speech about the restructuring of of Europe. The speech was part of of the preparation for War by the Nazi regime and their powerful partners the oil and drug cartel IG Farben”. […] “and in his speech Hallstein describes the planned German conquest of the rest of Europe and the subjugation of the continent. In due course, Hallstein became an officer in the German army. In 1938, Hallstein had been part of the official Nazi delegation to Rome. Hallstein was jointly responsible for writing a document which included this section: ‘The legal order of the dictatorial state, (Greater Germany) has the task to protect the integrity, the health and the racial health of its people…The supreme race has to be particularly protected from the Jewish race by eliminating it from society for all time’. “. Jack King: Indisputable Evidence… ISBN 9781 7939 81028
In 1957, Hallstein was one of the signatories of the EU’s Treaty of Rome and became the first President of the EEC. He was the architect of the EU Commission. He ensured the Commission was empowered to ignore the Council of Ministers on its own authority. The EU does not mention its founding father’s links to the Nazis or his determination to eliminate the Jewish race. He remained President of the EEC until 1968. He wrote Die Europäische Gemeinshaft, his blueprint for the EU. ISBN 3 430 138981. German children are not taught these facts during their education.
The NSDAP was the only Socialist Workers’ Party ever to be classified as Right Wing. It was, of course, a vile racist extreme Left Wing party.
The one problem for those who regard themselves as Democrats is the prospect of democracy.
Only those who agree with their anti- democratic views should ever be allowed to be heard.
Wake up Grrmany!
They don’t like it up ’em do they?
Isn’t it convenient for the German Establishment that the man who allegedly drove into Magdeburg Christmas Market, killing and injuring many, is a Saudi Doctor who apparently has abandoned Islam, is against the Islamisation of Germany and has spoken in support of the AfD.
I am so surprised by this, extremely convenient, development. Who could possibly have thunk it ……
Fact check:
Jonas Koch is incorrect in saying that Elon Musk, “recently announced a donation of up to $100 million to the Right-wing populists around Brexit pioneer Nigel Farage”.
No such donation has been announced, although there has been speculation that it might be.
Conclusion: the statement is FALSE.
Thank God for Elon Musk. He and President Trump will bring back sanity to the crazy world a small group of people who have insisted on ruining our lives.