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by Toby Young
14 December 2024 1:18 AM

  • “Prince Andrew breaks silence after being linked to ‘Chinese spy’” – The Duke of York has said he “ceased all contact” with the businessman accused of being a Chinese spy when concerns were first raised about him, reports the Mail.
  • “Chinese ‘spy’ mixed with politicians including George Osborne” – “Close confidant” of the Duke of York had links to influential figures in British politics, says the Telegraph.
  • “The unmasking of Prince Andrew’s ‘confidant’ is a wake-up call to the threat we face from China” – The totalitarian state is waging an intelligence war against Britain – and meeting little to no resistance, writes Charles Moore in the Telegraph.
  • “Can you tell a good guy from a bad guy in the Middle East?” – “Please excuse the tone of jubilation, but I have been dancing around my kitchen for the past couple of days, in a state well beyond elation, at the removal from power of Bashar al-Assad’s murderous regime in Syria and its successors who, I am convinced, are a little like our own Liberal Democrats,” writes Rod Liddle, sarcastically, in the Spectator.
  • “Miliband’s lack of remorse makes him unfit to serve” – As leader of the Opposition, Ed Miliband whipped his MPs to vote against military intervention in Syria when Assad used chemical weapons. Obama flinched as a result. Then the Russians swept in, writes Hamish de Bretton-Gordon in the Telegraph.
  • “Ed Miliband refuses to set target for cutting electricity bills” – Labour said before the election that energy bills would come down by £300, but the Energy Secretary would not commit to a figure on BBC Radio 4 yesterday, reports the Times.
  • “Miliband to overrule local residents in wind farm building spree” – Unelected planning officers will have the power to brush aside local opposition to major projects, according to the Telegraph.
  • “The towns that must build up to 21 times more homes under Labour plan” – A breakdown of Labour’s house building targets has laid bare the scale of the demands being put on local authorities – with London and the South East hardest hit, says the Mail.
  • “Miliband to rule on building Britain’s biggest solar farm at Churchill’s ancestral home” – Blenheim faces renewables blitz after a proposal for a huge solar farm gets over a crucial hurdle, reports the Telegraph.
  • “Surrey runs out of space for private school children” – The local council in Surrey has no vacancies for pupils in Years 9, 10 or 11 in state schools, as parents are forced out of the independent sector due to Labour’s VAT raid, according to the Telegraph.
  • “Starmer promised change – we didn’t know he meant the bad kind” – Five months in, the new Government has either failed to live up to its promises or actively left people worse off, writes Tom Harris in the Telegraph.
  • “The charts that show how Reeves killed off economic growth” – Labour doom and gloom has damaged Britain’s growth prospects after only a few months in power, says the Telegraph.
  • “Brussels to demand UK surrenders fishing rights and follows EU laws” – The price of a new trade deal with the EU, according to documents leaked to the Times, is that Britain will have to give EU fishermen access to British waters and accept the jurisdiction of the ECJ.
  • “Who is François Bayrou, the new Prime Minister of France?” – A three-times failed presidential candidate who was acquitted of embezzlement this year is the new PM of France. How long will this one last, asks Adam Sage in the Times.
  • “Ministry of Justice accused of ‘unfounded political diatribe’ against Tories” – Robert Jenrick claims that a “disgraceful” social media video posted by civil servants is pure “Labour propaganda”, reports the Telegraph.
  • “Liberals would rather risk the death of a child like Sara Sharif than appear racist” – To prevent further sad stories like hers, we must make it clear that the price of living in our country is abiding by our values, writes Allison Pearson in the Telegraph.
  • “Testimony on children and the vaccine that Hallett does not want to hear” – The Conservative Woman publishes four articles detailing the evidence about children and the Covid vaccines that the Hallett inquiry does not want to hear.
  • “Brits testing positive for flu nearly doubles in a week” – Surveillance data from the U.K. Health Security Agency show one in five tests (18.6%) for flu carried out at the end of last week came back positive, according to the Mail.
  • “Scientists warn over ‘mirror bacteria’ that could wipe out mankind” – A group of 38 leading scientists are calling for a pause on research to create “mirror life” – a form of artificial life which could infect and kill all life on Earth, reports the Mail.
  • “Biden gives Pfizer, Moderna immunity from being sued for vax injuries” – Health and Human Services in the U.S. have announced they’re extending a pandemic-era act that protects doctors, pharmacists and other healthcare professionals from being held liable for some injury claims, says the Mail.
  • “Trump ‘considering proposal to strike Iran’s nuclear programme’” – The President-elect is weighing up an attack on Iran following the fall of Syria’s Assad, according to the Telegraph.
  • “Biden slammed for commuting sentence of notorious ‘Kids-for-Cash’ judge convicted of imprisoning juveniles for $2.1M kickbacks” – Ex-Judge Michael Conahan, the jurist at the center of the so-called ‘Kids-for-Cash’ scandal, was among 1,499 pardons Biden granted in the largest presidential act of clemency on a single day, says the New York Post.
  • “Washington bureaucrats race for exit as Trump vows to drain ‘swamp’” – The president-elect’s pledge to “dismantle the deep state” has created a climate of fear among hundreds of thousands of U.S. federal employees, reports the Times.
  • “Trump and RFK Jr. will have ‘big discussion’ about vaccines and autism” – The President-elect has talked to Time magazine about his Health Secretary nominee, Ukraine firing missiles into Russia and Elon Musk’s conflicts of interest, according to the Times.
  • “RFK Jr. wants daughter-in-law as CIA deputy to ‘prove’ JFK conspiracy” – RFK Jr. claims the CIA killed his uncle. Now he wants Amaryllis Fox Kennedy, a former CIA agent, to prove it, says the Times.
  • “Terrified corporation’s dystopian new plan to ensure CEOs are safe” – Companies across America are scrambling to find ways to protect their own CEOs after the murder of UnitedHealthcare Chief Executive Brian Thompson, reports the Mail.
  • “Luigi Mangione is a new American nightmare” – It’s UnitedHealth’s Brian Thompson we should revere, not his murderer, says Brendan O’Neil in the Telegraph.
  • “Michigan is America’s wokest university. No wonder it’s failing its Jews” – The alleged anti-Semitic remarks of Michigan University diversitycrat Rachel Dawson will intensify the debate about what is really meant by diversity and inclusion in American colleges, according to the Telegraph.
  • “The nuclear family? We blew it up years ago” – Now that John Lewis has produced a Christmas ad that features white people, all sorts of thinkers and commentators on the Right have decided that the progressive madness is nearly over. Not so fast, says Mary Wakefield in the Spectator.
  • “Dozens of Post Office and Fujitsu staff probed for crimes linked to Horizon scandal” – A 100-strong national task force is probing staff at Fujitsu, the Post Office and legal professionals to see if they’re guilty of any crimes, but no charging decisions will be made until after the public inquiry report, reports the Mail.
  • “Meghan’s favoured outlet the Cut says her projects keep ‘flopping’” – The New York magazine off-shoot, formerly impressed by Meghan Markle, has soured on her, according to the Mail.
  • “Press watchdog accused of double standards in transgender row” – Helen Joyce says Ipso is guilty of “bias against gender-critical women” after it upheld a complaint by trans author Juno Dawson against the Spectator, but dismissed Joyce’s complaint, says the Telegraph.
  • “Gender ideology has been comprehensively beaten: three cheers for Terfs” – Wes Streeting’s decision to make the block on children receiving puberty blockers permanent is welcome, writes Josephine Bartosch in the Telegraph.
  • “‘Queer’ plans for Edinburgh’s feminist makeover” – Scotland’s capital city is to be given a makeover to improve safety for “people of marginalised genders”, reports the Mail.
  • “Baroness Catherine Meyer facing three week suspension for calling peer ‘Lord Poppadom’ and touching MP’s braids” – A 71-year-old peer has said she might have had three glasses of wine when she called Lord Dholakia “Lord Poppadom” – twice – but does not remember, according to Sky News.
  • “A cheery ghost story for Christmas” – Paul Sutton imagine a pub peopled by the ghosts of Horatio Nelson, Winston Churchill and Rudyard Kipling in a Christmas ghost story for his Substack.
  • “Vicar leaves pupils in tears with Father Christmas remarks” – The Rev. Dr. Paul Chamberlain has been forced to apologise after telling a group of primary school children that Santa doesn’t exist, reports the Telegraph.
  • “Tony’s Chocolonely blasted for leaving a day blank in advent calendar” – Those children unlucky enough to have been bought the Tony Chocaloney advent calendar were left gutted when they went to open door number 10 only to find that there was no chocolate inside. A lesson about inequality, according to the woke chocolatier, says the Mail.
  • “Graham Linehan: I’m leaving Britain” – Steerpike in the Spectator reveals that Graham Linehan is leaving Britain for America to write a new sitcom with Andrew Doyle and Rob Schneider.
  • “Andrew Doyle and Graham Linehan on the Jordan B. Peterson podcast” – Andrew Doyle and Graham Linehan have appeared on Jordan Peterson’s podcast to discuss creativity, free speech and the new woke orthodoxy.
  • “Sir Keir Starmer is my free speech ‘zero’ of the year” – On X, the Free Speech Union has posted a clip of me making the case for why the Union’s members should vote for Sir Keir as this year’s biggest enemy of free speech. He won!

Many congratulations to Sir @Keir_Starmer, winner of the FSU's 'Free Speech Zero' award 2024, as voted for by our members!

Sir Keir was nominated by FSU General Secretary Toby Young during our annual, members-only Christmas Review — you can watch a clip below.

Toby felt that… pic.twitter.com/TWXfeG9ysb

— The Free Speech Union (@SpeechUnion) December 13, 2024

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
10 months ago

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13608687/Now-Tory-post-mortem-begins-earnest-Ex-ministers-claim-Britain-instinctively-Conservative-say-party-failed-deliver-migration-tax-NHS-amid-anger-idiotic-Rishi-leadership-hopefuls-declare-hand.html

Otherwise known as gaslighting.

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NeilParkin
NeilParkin
10 months ago

“22 year-old MP hits back at claims he doesn’t have ‘experience’
and asks why critics think “being older makes you better at the job”,

If you have to ask the question, then your lack of wisdom is self-evident.

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GunnerBill
GunnerBill
10 months ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Because all the old people with experience have done such a good job?

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EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
10 months ago
Reply to  GunnerBill

No one says experience is sufficient but it is necessary for many roles.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  GunnerBill

As EppingBlogger correctly points out, we’re not arguing experience is sufficient – I’d rather have an inexperienced person with good sense and the right attitude than an experienced idiot, but I am struggling to think of a human activity where experience is not helpful. If a person is intelligent and able to learn, which you would hope was the case, then if they do not improve with experience then you have to wonder what’s going on. Politics especially seems to me a field in which experience is going to be highly valuable.

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago
Reply to  GunnerBill

Trust me Gunner,I don’t know how old you are but the fact is, experience isn’t everything but it is preferable compared to ideology!

Last edited 10 months ago by Dinger64
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NeilParkin
NeilParkin
10 months ago

“Business Secretary U-turns on digital ID cards after refusing to rule them out” 

Like many citizens, have a driving licence and and a passport, both as photoID. Can they explain to me HOW having another card is going to reduce immigration. It seems an un-necessary layer of control, bearing in mind that criminals can fake these things for the right price. The fact that Blair is pushing it, also means its probably just another bit of ‘up to no good’.

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modularist
modularist
10 months ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Two comments:

1. In both this, and the similar DT article, the locution “digital ID cards” is used. I think we can safely say that although digital ID is inevitable, nobody is ever going to carry a ‘card’. A QR code on their phone maybe, or an RFID chip in their arm, but no ‘card’.
2. All the UN/WHO/WEFs plans require digital ID to function. There is simply no way the UK is going to be an exception here.

The digital dystopia has not come to an end with this announcement.

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
10 months ago
Reply to  modularist

China has the Digital Bank ID,s , convid was used to start bringing then in elsewhere , it’s the Main Weapon the TPTB will use against us , if they can just get rid of cash as well , then Bingo they’ve Won !

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EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
10 months ago
Reply to  modularist

The immediate problem is not identifying immigrants but stopping them coming. Labour and Tories will not stop them coming so ID does not help.

references to immigration are a diversion so they don’t have to say it’s part of elite control over us.

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago
Reply to  modularist

Those who do not want to comply will always sidestep the law, not abide by it.

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For a fist full of roubles
For a fist full of roubles
10 months ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Now a special Immigrant ID Card would be useful to track them. No card, no free services.

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago
Reply to  For a fist full of roubles

That’s a good idea💡 track them by what they don’t have, You ain’t got it ,you ain’t coming in!

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
10 months ago
Reply to  For a fist full of roubles

Alternatively, they could have said, “No ID from your home country, no free services.” That would have had the same effect, but discouraged illegal immigration in the first place.

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Passports and mobile phones go to the bottom of the English channel! How are Id cards going to fare any better?

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
10 months ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Anything that has Bliar attached to it is definitely NOT in our interests. That is simply a fact of life.

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NeilParkin
NeilParkin
10 months ago

“Le Pen’s party blocked from power, shock exit polls show”

Proof if needed that the slippery b’stards will do anything, and I mean anything, to hold on to power.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Sort of, but the voters had a choice and made their decision. I know some here have mentioned possible fraud and while I am sure it happens, I doubt it’s on a large enough scale to have changed this result – but perhaps my faith is misplaced. Anecdotally in the UK though, the declared results tally with my own experience of people’s views and how they approach voting.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Disagree. This from Tommy Robinson;

”In the second round of French elections.

-9,300,000 French people voted for the RN.

– 5,100,000 for the NFP.

The people voted for their sovereignty, closed borders, fixing their nation.

The other parties, who hate each other, but France more, joined forces to f*ck them.”

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

34% voted for the RN in the second round, 66% voted to continue the destruction of France. I guess that’s democracy. We need new countries.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

As somebody commented online;

”The collusion by smaller parties to thwart the will of the French people to have safety and security is a damning abuse of Proportional Representation as a democratic process. The UK needs to learn the lessons from this French-left way of gaming the system.”

What happened in France is not how a true democracy works. However, I acknowledge that we’re living in post-democratic times, and this ”D” word is just another term banded about, much in the same way as ‘free speech’, which has come to have a completely fluid meaning, depending on who’s using the term to suit their own ends, so much so that these terms are now effectively meaningless, as substantial and enduring as gossamer. That’s my stance on it anyway. We’re living with the *illusion* of an actual democracy with only the illusion of freedom of speech.
These things are being abused and manipulated from all angles all of the time by TPTB who make the rules, and yes, we must defend them and our other rights with all of our might ( hat tip to our Toby ), but the reality is that you either have something or you don’t. It should be a black and white issue but the corrupt ‘PTB’ have made it more ’50 shades of grey’ and the goal posts are constantly moving.
Wasn’t the whole scamdemic experience proof enough of just how few rights we actually have in reality and how easily they can be removed or messed about with by the ruling class? When even the judiciary ( and we know all about the police by now ) demonstrably aren’t on our side then you know you’re scuppered. Therefore ‘justice’ is another term that appears to have become entirely meaningless nowadays.
We’re basically living in The Truman Show, it’s just that only a percentage of us are aware of this.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I agree with some of what you say but ultimately there was a clear choice and a clear majority for one side of that choice. No secret was made of what the left were doing – it was all out in the open. Nobody forced the French to vote against RN.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
10 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Salute.

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
10 months ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Proof indeed ! If ever it was needed !

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Yes, the nazis were a socialist party!

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
10 months ago

Freedom Is Hanging By A Thread – latest leaflet to print at home and deliver to neighbours or forward to politicians, your new MP, your local vicar, online media and friends online. We have over 200 leaflet ideas on the link on the leaflet.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
10 months ago

“Battery maker SK On declares ‘emergency’ as EV sales disappoint, FT reports”

I think the situation with EVs is a clear and obvious indication as to where this net-zero business is heading. There are a number of reasons why EV’s are not selling;
.1. They are expensive
.2. The whole charging business is confusing, difficult, inconvenient and sometimes very expensive.
.3. The depreciationn on EVs is enormous.
.4. If EVs get damaged they are being scrapped much more readily than with ICE cars. And when ICE cars are scrapped they are often bought and repaired by enterprising mechanics but this is not happening with scrapped EV’s. Whilst I might buy a secondhand Fiesta with a cat s or n designation I would not risk that with a damaged EV.
.5. Consequently EV insurance is expensive and getting more expensive.
.6. EVs are like a smart-phone on wheels and if they run into problems repairs are difficult, expensive and sometimes impossible to fix.
.6. Scrapped EVs are already piling up at a faster rate than the scrap industry can handle and eventually the pile up of scrapped EVs will halt the sale of new ones.

The general public are a savvy lot and even if they have not done an in-depth analysis of EVs, they can sense a ‘pig in a poke’ when they see one. Would I drive an EV, yes if I could beg, borrow or lease one but buy one with my own money you must be joking!

If I and the general public can see all this, what does it say about our deranged net zero politicians? Do they really think EVs are the future of mass motoring or is this all some planned orchestrated mess leading to a future without private cars?

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Batteries are just a big box of unstable chemicals, basing your future on them is idiocy!

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soundofreason
soundofreason
10 months ago
Reply to  Dinger64

A tankful of petrol or diesel is also unstable chemicals – but only when mixed with a particular quantity of air. The contents of an EV battery are unstable even in the absence of air which is why they’re a problem to ‘extinguish’ if they overheat.

Depending on the size of the tank there’s a hell of a lot more stored energy in a tankful of diesel (and the required amount of air) than in a similar size/weight of EV battery – which is why people get range anxiety. It’s just as well that the electric motors in an EV are smaller/lighter than most ICE engines/gearboxes or they’d barely get anywhere.

In cold weather drivers of most ICE vehicles keep warm by using the by-product heat from the engine to warm the cabin. There is no by-product heat from an EV – you have to use some of the precious stored energy to keep the cabin bearable. Not too surprisingly EVs are built to disable the cabin heating if the stored energy dips below a certain level – just in case the driver is too stupid to do that for themselves. I really don’t fancy an EV in something like a Wisconsin winter – but I guess ‘Global Boiling’™ will make sure that Wisconsin becomes liveable all year round soon enough.

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago
Reply to  soundofreason

Agreed, we know the pitfalls of ice vehicle’s, we ought to, they’ve been knocking around for over a century, but at least when they do go up, they are easier to put out!

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
10 months ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

“…is this all some planned orchestrated mess leading to a future without private cars?”

Yes.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
  • “Has Patrick Vallance learnt from his Covid mistakes?” – Perhaps we shall see Vallance taking a more balanced and evidence-based approach to policy in his new role than when he was Chief Scientific Officer. Then again, how often do we observe leopards changing their spots? asks David Paton in UnHerd.

Who has not “learned from mistakes” is David Paton. Why does he think Vallance made a mistake and might regret what he did? Vallance is clearly a power-hungry collectivist – convid was an opportunity not to be missed to put “public health” and “science” centre stage.

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

He never was anything but that didn’t prevent him being 100% complicit in helping to destroy thousands of lives , a proper B-stard !

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blunt instrument
blunt instrument
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Vallance: “Mistakes?”

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago

France has just coverted the corse of true democracy, Vive la 🇫🇷
I’m sure Germany will eventually and democratically end Afd in the same way!🇩🇪

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago

“What does the New Popular Front’s election win mean for France?”

It means: “we’ll blow out your candle and we don’t care that ours is already flickering “

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago

“Has Patrick Vallance learnt from his Covid mistakes?”

No!

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago

“The German Government have no money and they can’t stop spending it”

No government has money! It’s tax payers money, not theirs

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Just Stop it Now
Just Stop it Now
10 months ago

Monthly pub get-together in Surrey on Tuesday evening. All sceptics, free thinkers, speakers of truth and lovers of freedom, are most welcome

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago

“Just one in four say Biden could stay awake through a Cuban Missile Crisis”

I think 48 minutes would be pushing it!

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
10 months ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Unlikely to stay awake through another toilet crisis!

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

🤣🤣

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago

“Midsomer Murders viewers warned they will see crime scenes”

Imagine that! A crime series with scenes of crime!!!
Bags of KP may contain nuts

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago

“Karma catches up with Nicola Sturgeon”

The ipitome of stewing in your own juice!

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago

As they say, a leopard can’t change its spots, so Macron has left the spots as they are..but changed the leopard instead!

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago

https://www.gbnews.com/news/world/france-paris-riots-election-surprise-win-exit-poll-new-popular-front

“Suprise win”? Engineered I’d say!

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blunt instrument
blunt instrument
10 months ago

UK: Huge increase in anti-Marxist vote, country gets more extreme Marxist government.
France: Huge increase in anti-Marxist vote, country gets more extreme Marxist government.

Hmmm.

Great analysis by Thinking Slow, btw: https://thinkingcoalition.substack.com/p/the-really-interesting-2024-election

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  blunt instrument

80% of UK voters supported left wing parties

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blunt instrument
blunt instrument
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Of voters *who voted*. Seems like Labour won basically because the Tories lost 7 million votes and Labour lost a lot less.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  blunt instrument

Well, those people who didn’t vote had the chance to, but didn’t. I think it’s a reasonable assumption that most of them were happy with the status quo or don’t care. For once in my area there was a broad spectrum of choices – the most interesting ones that were on my shortlist all got a handful of votes.

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Typo? Left-wing parties took just over 40%, with right-wing parties just under 40%, the rest are supposedly centrist parties. If you then consider the significant drop in voter turnout (7-8%), which would have been mainly right-of-centre people with various feelings of utter disgust, then the split is 50/50 at best. Not exactly the landslide it’s been made to look. The conclusion of the article is correct of course, it was a vote against the Tories not a vote for Labour.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Reform got 14% of the vote. All the other mainstream parties are left wing IMO, including the Tories.

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Sure, but the vote split should be considered by what people believe they’re voting for, not what values the party actually upholds in practice. The masses are dumb, we have to factor in that stupidity.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

That is one way of looking at it, yes. Other than Monro with his particular thing about Farage and Putin etc etc, I’ve not seen or heard any other Tory voter explain why they didn’t vote Reform. Baffling.

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DS99
DS99
10 months ago
Reply to  blunt instrument

Interesting article – thanks for posting.

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For a fist full of roubles
For a fist full of roubles
10 months ago

Russian missiles hit children’s cancer hospital in Kyiv
https://www.ft.com/content/4075caad-7bf0-48a0-9106-7b953ccb9ee9

What is really going on? There is a NATO summit on Ukraine starting tomorrow and Ukraine has failed to successfully counter-attack, so why not engineer a Russian atrocity?
Children – tick. Cancer -tick.
A call has gone out for make-up artists who specialise in injuries.
We have seen it before and the international community has failed to come up with any verifiable intelligence.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
10 months ago
Reply to  For a fist full of roubles

The Ukrainian correspondent won’t be happy with this.
😀

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For a fist full of roubles
For a fist full of roubles
10 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Oh goody.
PS Latest view is that the damage was caused by a failed Uktrainian air defence missile.

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10 months ago
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The pictures I have seen are not even of the main hospital, a multistorey building which was built in around 2015; you can see it in the background. The truly sick people on this site are the ones who accept at face value every bit of propaganda from Ukraine.
Ask yourself, what value is there to the Russians to deliberately target a children’s hospital on the eve of a NATO conference.

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Monro
10 months ago

There’s some pretty sick stuff on here.

I leave it to the readership here to draw their own conclusions about the atrocity itself and the state of mind of the commentators who first drew attention to it.

Kyiv children’s hospital bombed 

By Svitlana Morenets in Kyiv

I have been in Kyiv for a few weeks, struck by how safe the city has felt thanks to its improved air defences. But that changed this morning when the capital came under a huge attack. Ukraine’s largest children’s hospital, Okhmatdyt, was hit by Russian missiles and I’m writing this from the scene. The area is strewn with collapsed concrete and smoke is rising still. Children remain trapped under the rubble. 

People are rushing to help – queuing to deliver water, food and medicine. Some have come to donate blood. Children have been taken out of the hospital on trolleys and are now in the streets, while some continue to receive their cancer treatments via IV drips. Mothers stand with their bed-ridden children outside the collapsed ward that was only recently rebuilt.’

The Spectator 08 July 2024

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Monro
Monro
10 months ago
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‘Based on official air threat warnings, the attack might have involved Kh-47 Kinzhal air-launched ballistic missiles and Kh-101 cruise missiles, most likely, some other types were used, too.’

‘One of the russian missiles hit in the middle of a residential building, and another landed on the Okhmatdyt Children’s Hospital, a large medical treatment facility in Kyiv. As of now, 16 victims are reported as a result of this strike, including children. The rubble is still being cleared, and more information about the deceased and injured keeps coming.’

‘A local resident managed to film the moment a missile hit the Okhmatdyt hospital. This footage alone does not allow for a reliable identification of the exact type of the cruise missile. More importantly, there is no visible indication that this missile was shot down or damaged.’

https://en.defence-ua.com/news/childrens_hospital_hit_in_a_combined_40_missile_attack_on_ukraine_video-11105.html

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DHJ
DHJ
10 months ago
Reply to  Monro

The report doesn’t seem very sure:

“might have”, “most likely”, “does not allow for a reliable identification of the exact type of the cruise missile”

and the source seems a little biased:

“Defense Express is a partner of the Ukrainian Defense Industries (Ukroboronprom) State Corporation. Our Company has been a long-time promoter of domestic defense industry products at international arms exhibitions.”

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CGW
CGW
10 months ago
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And Ray McGovern “smells a rat” with this story coming so close to the NATO summit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmdL2eYJR2c (from 25:01).

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For a fist full of roubles
10 months ago
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The messages I hear regularly from Kiev is that they shoot down all Russian missiles.
It is also common practice in Ukraine to disguise videos of rocket attacks to deny the Russians any confirmation of targeting accuracy. It is therefore highly suspicious and unusual that so many videos claiming to be of the hit are appearing.

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For a fist full of roubles
10 months ago
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The missile in one of the pictures has been identified as an AIM-120 missile, used in the NASAMS Air Defense System of the Armed Forces of Ukraine,

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CGW
CGW
10 months ago
Reply to  Monro

As tragic as it must be, and whether a missile came off course or was hit by a defence missile, one can be sure that Russia did not fire intentionally at civilians.

Which is unfortunately not the case with the Ukrainian military. Patrick Lancaster (https://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLancasterNewsToday) has reported so many times in his videos on hospitals, schools and residential areas being targeted by Ukraine, either in the Donbas area or in Russia itself. Here are some of his video titles:

  • Five days under fire in Belgorod
  • Bakery massacre: 28 killed in Lysychansk
  • 19 civilians injured by rockets and cluster bombs in Donetsk
  • Child victims of war in Donetsk
  • 7 year old boy and father killed in Donetsk
  • Donetsk streets continue to be mined by Ukraine
  • Children being targeted in Ukraine warzone
  • Ukraine fires on Kindergarten, music school and homes in Donetsk
  • Ukraine rockets hit church, hospital, schools, homes and more in the center of Donetsk
  • …
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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
10 months ago
Reply to  CGW

Thanks for the post. 👍

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For a fist full of roubles
10 months ago
Reply to  CGW

Not to mention numerous attacks on civilians in Belgorod in southern Russia, and the recent gratuitous attack on Lugansk city.

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Monro
Monro
10 months ago
Reply to  CGW

Patrick Lancaster as a reference?:

‘Now, Patrick would admit himself that he’s not the brightest, maybe he’s just taken his eye completely off the ball after all that family time, maybe he just doesn’t have the appetite to cover the business end of the operation, after all his wide-eyed running around giving huge significance to random ‘gunfights’……..

……I’m sure you’ve already heard a hundred times that you should ‘like and share his videos’ and give him money. But, his absolutely inaccurate statement that ‘the major fighting is definitely done’, when the final battle is waging as we speak, cannot be left uncorrected. That is fake news.

I write this in a public forum because I have no direct communication with Lancaster. In general Lancaster is a harmless clown who runs around in a panic, like a rabbit in headlights spouting phrases in broken English, and doesn’t need to be addressed.

But, when he comes out with patently false statements, he needs to be dealt with the same way as anyone else.’

It may be that the readership here are delighted to read references on here put together by an ‘illiterate, grifting charlatan, with a journalistic acumen and ability lower than a potted plant.’ for all kinds of different reasons.

That is entirely a matter for them.

But pretending that ‘not the brightest’ ‘illiterate, grifting charlatan’ is an authoritative source doesn’t, at best, say much for your critical reasoning skills.

At worst, in the context of providing silly ‘whataboutery’ arguments concerning a Russian missile attack on a Ukrainian hospital, it shows you up as another deluded and eccentric, abhorrent and barbaric war crimes sympathiser.

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10 months ago
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….a number of Russian specialized platforms across social media openly stated that the facility had been hit by a Russian Kh-101. 

‘Just look closely at the missile seen in the video, especially pay attention to its tail unit and the turbojet engine located there.’ 

‘…the Kh-101/102 is of all-Russian manufacture. It is powered by a TRDD-50A turbojet producing 450 kg (990 pounds) of thrust .’

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2015-11-20/latest-russian-strikes-syria-employ-new-cruise-missile

‘Footage of the first minutes of the attack on Okhmadyt children’s hospital shows that it was a targeted terrorist attack……..hit Okhmadyt with a Kh-101 missile. The video of the attack shows that it was not a deflection of the missile….’

“The Kh-101 missile flew at an ultra-low altitude and before hitting the Okhmatdyt……….it ascended and hit the hospital. To bypass Ukrainian air defense systems, the missile could have used thermal (flares).

…..the combined strike included several Kh-22 missiles, two of which were not shot down.

‘…..there is no military sense in using such missiles, which have a deviation of 500 meters to several kilometers’

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