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The Crown Prosecution Service Needs to Explain Why so Many People Only Tangentially Connected to the Southport Riots Have Been Sent to Prison

by David Shipley
10 December 2024 7:00 AM

The August riots disappeared from the headlines long ago. The Ministry of Justice stopped reporting on the progress of the prosecutions a month ago. Perhaps people stopped caring, but the system still rumbles on. This week the BBC reported that Derek Heggie, a former boxer from Carlisle has decided to plead guilty, although it’s not clear from the report whether he has pleaded guilty to an offence under the Malicious Communications Act or a lesser offence. According to Cumbria Crack, Derek faced two charges. The first was that he “sent an electronic communication of an offensive nature”. This communication was “two YouTube videos which, court papers show, made reference to grooming gangs and also the prophet Muhammad”. The BBC reported that in a video Heggie said “young white girls are being raped by these grooming gangs”. The second charge was that he sent “grossly offensive electronic communications, via YouTube between the same dates, with intent to cause distress and anxiety”. These communications took place between August 2nd and 8th, and by the 9th Heggie was under arrest and up before a magistrate. Based on what’s been reported, I’m struggling to understand what offence has actually been committed.

You might think he wouldn’t have said he was guilty unless he was. But decisions on pleas aren’t made in a vacuum. Heggie has been remanded since his arrest in August. That means for the past four months he has been held in prison despite not being convicted. This seems peculiar. According to the Bail Act, defendants can be remanded if the courts believe they may not return for their trial, may commit another offence, attack someone, or seek to obstruct the course of justice. Prison isn’t pleasant for anyone, but it’s often particularly tough for inmates being held on remand. I spent the first half of my prison sentence at HMP Wandsworth, a jail with a very high remand population. I noticed that men awaiting trial or sentencing often struggled more with their mental health. An unknown future is often much harder than the certainty of a known sentence to serve.


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Grahamb
Grahamb
7 months ago

Glad to see that someone who understand the process is taking a look at what is happening. It is one thing to believe something is wrong on principle and completely different to be factual and challenging about it.

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
7 months ago

Funny how the Crown, law enforcement, the judiciary and the prison system all work like one well-oiled and interdependent machine. It’s almost as if their powers are not democratically separated.

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7941MHKB
7941MHKB
7 months ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

You are right, when discussing cases that our Beloved Leaders require to be settled in a particular way. Guilty verdicts to the cases mentioned, not guilty for Just Stop Oil, Extinction Rebellion.
Then there’s bumbledom and chaos often in cases of gang rape of schoolgirls (evidence accidentally lost, victims accused of having made “lifestyle choices” at the age of 13)

And that’s even before anyone completely wrongly wonders about the participation of Agents Provocoteur.

Reassuring to have a knighted Human Rights lawyer steering the ship of State.

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MajorMajor
MajorMajor
7 months ago

My conclusion: what happened in Southport really worries the government and they want to intimidate people into silence and submission.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
7 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

Indeed. It seems to me that since we started importing lots of non-white people, any difficulties, perceived or real, that this may have caused have been blamed on whites, had money thrown at them, been hidden, ignored or made illegal to talk about. The simple solution would have been to stop doing it, very early on, but trillions of pounds later we’re still doing it.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
7 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

Yes exactly. The treatment of all these people was meant to act as a deterrent. Not much deterrent going on if you’re a law-violator who happens to be non-white though, such as the Muslim psychos who attacked police at Manchester airport, even breaking one officer’s nose. But seemingly that’s less bad than posting an angry tweet or attending a protest where you *didn’t* physically assault anyone. Good job the police in question were white, really, because what a quandary that would’ve been…I’ll be interested to hear how Reform’s pursuing of an independent prosecution for this case goes. Pure Clown World.

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RTSC
RTSC
7 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

Absolutely. They are just about keeping the lid on the violence and social breakdown they have imported over the past 28 or so years and the only way they think they will be able to do it is to suppress and intimidate the native white working class.

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7941MHKB
7941MHKB
7 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

My conclusion is that a certain strategy had been adopted no later than 24 hours after the stabbings. And quite likely well before then.

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The old bat
The old bat
7 months ago

I was reading an article about the rise and fall of Assad in which it explained how, initially, when some citizens took to the streets to complain about his method of running the country, he bit back with a severe take down of the protestors. This is turn caused more protest about the treatment of the protestors and so on, ad infinitum, which eventually created the horror that it did.
I see certain parallels.

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Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago
Reply to  The old bat

They weren’t mere “citizens” taking to the streets. They were part of THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, which had been DRIVEN OUT OF SYRIA by President Assad and his late father years before. The Muslim Brotherhood moved its headquarters to London, under the avuncular eye of Muslim Mayor Khan, whence they launched relentless protests, violence and terrorism against the popular, legitimate government of President Assad.

As usual, we in the West were tricked into backing THE WRONG HORSE in the conflict, just as in the Balkans, Iraq and Libya.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
7 months ago

It’s an abuse of human rights is what it is. These people, most of whom have never been on the wrong side of the law before, have been given crap duty solicitors giving them crap advice. Of course the process is the punishment! The injustice stinks to high heaven. Most of these people should never have been banged up in the first place. And lo and behold, that Labour councilor gets bail when nobody else does. He won’t serve time, I’ll bet money on it.
What it also shows is that the police can put all the time and resources into hunting down the people they want to, but the actual scumbags, such as illegal migrants that can’t manage to be law-abiding, just get to disappear into the ether, and nobody seems to take responsibility or care very much;

”An asylum seeker accused of sexually assaulting a woman has failed to show up at court — and no one knows where he is! Adnan Ahmed, 36, lived on the Bibby Stockholm barge in Portland, Dorset, which Labour promised would be a “safe solution.” Turns out, it’s anything but!

Police have issued an arrest warrant, but here’s the kicker: Ahmed skipped court, and officials admit they don’t even know how to contact him! This is beyond a failure of justice — it’s a slap in the face to law-abiding Brits.

And it gets worse: another asylum seeker charged with sexually assaulting a woman on Weymouth beach also failed to appear in court. The excuses? “No money, no car, too hard to attend.” Spare us!

These cases highlight a disgraceful breakdown in control and accountability. Meanwhile, honest taxpayers are left footing the bill for this shambles. How many more crimes will it take before politicians wake up?”

https://x.com/darrengrimes_/status/1865037774119960774

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
7 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Yet even with a decent solicitor, if remand in custody, and the eventual date for a hearing, are in the hands of the corrupted system, it still means that accusation itself leads to jail.

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Insurrectionist
Insurrectionist
7 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

My advise, through experience is never use duty solicitors

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
7 months ago
Reply to  Insurrectionist

It doesn’t help trying to track someone with no fixed address.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
7 months ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

Could be the migrant I saw walking on three different roads the other day right into the night. Must be fit I’ll give him that.

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RW
RW
7 months ago
Reply to  Insurrectionist

It has been pretty obvious that only people who couldn’t afford a solicitor of their own were targeted.

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Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago
Reply to  RW

Excellent point!

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WillP
WillP
7 months ago

If we were to drift into totalitarianism, and it didn’t look like this, what would it look like?

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EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
7 months ago

I do not think they object to the stench. They rather like the thought that the public will be cowered by their treats to freedom. Isn’t that the way with dictatorial regimes.

Please do not respond by saying we live in a liberal democracy; that was finally shown to be fantasy, flannel and fluff by the way Parliament handled Brexit, the recent GE results and the 882 arrests, 90 per cent of them (my guess number) should not have been charged with anything.

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
7 months ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

882 arrests? That’s not far short of the Jan 6 arrests, and that was a full-blown armed rebellion against the State that was worse than 9/11. </sarc>

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Ian Logan
Ian Logan
7 months ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

You what?!

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
7 months ago
Reply to  Ian Logan

Read his last word, unless this is also sarcasm

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
7 months ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

The traitorous Judges need a bit of Assad treatment. Not that we should involve ourselves over there (UK probably has through BBC Media Action along with USAID) what don’t they have a hand in! And sending 11 billion to ISIS Warlords is probably not a good idea when you consider we can’t even keep pensioners warm.

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RTSC
RTSC
7 months ago

The stench of two-tier “justice” already pervades Keir-Chings! Government, the Police and the Criminal “Justice” system.

And it will never be eradicated.

It can only be reformed and the corruption eradicated in the future. But that won’t happen under the Establishment’s Uni-Party.

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Hardliner
Hardliner
7 months ago

I’m beginning to think that Syria might be preferable. Will they pay for us to stay in 4 star hotels too?

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Archimedes
Archimedes
7 months ago

It would not be at all surprising to, at a later date, see many of these convictions being over turned, leading to substantial compensation claims. Many people’s lives, so often from lower socio-economic groups, have been ruined by what comes across as an unbalanced and vindictive application of state force, disguised under the banner of ‘justice’. Wholly unacceptable in what is supposed to be a modern democracy, with at least some declining semblance of free speech.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
7 months ago
Reply to  Archimedes

Always remember the BLM protests were “mostly peaceful”.

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Jeff Chambers
Jeff Chambers
7 months ago

In the Black Book of Communism (by Stephane Courtois et al) Nicholas Werth uses the phrase “a state against its people” to summarise the Marxist regime in Russia. This is our situation in Britain today: a marxo-fascist regime which loathes the native people of our country, and which is actively working to destroy us.

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klf
klf
7 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Chambers

You’re right.

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Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago

Excellent article by David Shipley, especially his call for details of the nearly 1000 British Citizens rounded up and imprisoned for Protesting Against the Murder of Children.

It does seem, especially in the case of Indigenous Englishman Derek Heggie, that people are being arrested and imprisoned just for CRITICISING ISLAM or MUSLIMS in any way. Pakistan has been campaigning for years to persuade the United Nations to CRIMINALISE ALL CRITICISM OF ISLAM, and of Muslims, and it seems with Jewish Starmer’s appointment of a Pakistani Muslim Woman as UK Justice Minister, this agenda is being quietly and illegally enforced.

Pakistani-origin Shabana becomes UK’s first Muslim female justice secretary – Daily Times

“Shabana Mahmood, hailing from a small town in the Jhelum district of Pakistan, has assumed charge as Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice in the United Kingdom. One of the United Kingdom’s first female Muslim Members of Parliament, 43-year-old Ms Mahmood had graduated from Lincoln College, University of Oxford. She completed the Bar Vocational Course at the Inns of Court School of Law in 2003. As a barrister, she had worked at King’s Bench Walk and Berymans Lace Maer.”

“Prominent Pakistani leaders have showered praise on Ms Mahmood and congratulated her on holding an important office in the British government. From Jhelum, former federal minister Fawad Ch has congratulated the lady originally hailing from a small village Bohriaan on becoming Secretary of State for Justice. In a post on X, he congratulated Ms Mahmood while saying ‘you have made us proud, stay blessed’.”

[Notice that none of these fascinating details are mentioned in her Wikipedia page.]

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So you see, people, that no matter where Pakistani Muslims choose to settle in the world, their FIRST LOYALTY is to PAKISTAN & THE GLOBAL CALIPHATE.

This attitude and STEALTH AGENDA has NO PLACE in any western democracy.

Last edited 7 months ago by Heretic
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Wroxetan
Wroxetan
7 months ago

The judges are acting under political control and or just hate the white working class whereas they have an unusual if not suspicious sympathy with child abusers and migrant criminals.
They should be named and shamed.

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